/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>58351935
>If anything bad ever happened to just two of the five top hitters in Hololive, the entire company is dead.
kek, sometimes I wish that bloke that did the
>this time Hololive is truly dead
note didn't quit in shame, he was a great way to "memorialize" all of these outlandish predictions

>>58352004
(Ao)h nyo~

>>58350261
Wanna bet 5 bucks on that?

>>58352012
>Fans: How many reflops shilling are you gonna do?
>Cover: Yes

>>58352007
>Gura's record
Why are you talking about 2020 numbers as if they're relevant? Even 2021 numbers are ancient history now.

I think the DEV_IS branch should have been smothered and the girls should have been fired before debut.

KANADE SUPREMACY

>>58352012
Recent clip numbers
>>58284495
>>58284530
>>58284565
>>58284602
>>58284642

>>58352012
/news/ anchor
Reply with a short description of the news and a link to the source!

News from today:
>Janitor applications are open, come and apply to join the auspicious forces of people defending this site from trolls and antis! Benefit include working closely with American government, free 4chan pass and access to exclusive ERP discord server
https://www.4chan.org/janitorapp
>Hololive at X-CON
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1701205232368365968
>Life Like a Live! applications open
https://twitter.com/VTIPS_dayo/status/1701068042476617813
>La+ will no longer stream on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ChQf4PPEkM
>Hololive candy
https://twitter.com/candytoy_c/status/1701400304137462047
>Iroha in UFO machines
https://twitter.com/CAPCOM_CAPTORE/status/1701068151512056293
>Council 3D showcases dates announced
https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1701430450273837276

Yesterday's news:
>Second half of ReGLOSS debuted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBl_xvydhmk
>New Gura outfit
https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1700913951305859373
>Mori interview in WSJ
https://twitter.com/ROCKTHEJUMP1/status/1700890838845513845

I will post Niji male itt

>>58352026
Aeh is Homo branch that cheap?

>>58351993
They lose to miko no?

>>58352030
Blue Journey is the real flop here but nice deflection retard.

* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>65,412: Rion (Nijisanji)
>51,429: Raden (Hololive)
>45,909: Pekora (Hololive)
>37,393: Gura (Hololive)
>36,460: Kanata (Hololive)
>35,729: Hajime (Hololive)
>26,324: Botan (Hololive)
>24,768: Okayu (Hololive)
>20,793: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>20,528: Kanade (Hololive)
>18,676: Korone (Hololive)
>18,429: Koyori (Hololive)
>17,718: Ririka (Hololive)
>17,345: Mumei (Hololive)
>16,438: Met (VSPO)
>15,748: Ao (Hololive)
>14,784: Mio (Hololive)
>13,926: Fubuki (Hololive)
>13,784: Watame (Hololive)
>13,373: Laplus (Hololive)
>13,266: AZKi (Hololive)
>12,203: Ririka (Hololive)
>11,640: Ryushen (Nijisanji)
>11,057: GatchmanV (Indie)

Oh, Raden in Aki's chat
Can't wait for the collab

>>58352020
So where is this nigger now ?

Gold
The senpai are going out of their way to test their kouhai it seem

>>58352063
Nope, first day to Maririn 3D

>>58352069
>SEPTEMBER 2023 GOLDS
1) Aqua (Hololive) - 45,789 - Apex
2) Iroha (Hololive) - 64,229 - Outfit Reveal
3) Miko (Hololive) - 82,404 - Minecraft
4) Marine (Hololive) - 51,829 - Parasocial
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 48,521 - Armored Core 6
6) Subaru (Hololive) - 106,673 - Oozora Police Minecraft
7) Hololive (Hololive) - 63,855 - 6th Anniversary
8) Botan (Hololive) - 95,311 - Birthday Live
9) Kanade (Hololive) - 110,230 - Debut Stream
10) Raden (Hololive) - 129,772 - Debut Stream
11) Rion (Nijisanji) - 65,412 - Personality Test (w/ Mito, Kuzuha, Toya & others)

>PER COMPANY
10x: Hololive
1x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
1x: Aqua, Botan, Kanade, Hololive, Iroha, Marine, Miko, Pekora, Raden, Rion, Subaru

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
175x: Hololive
62x: Nijisanji
8x: Indie
5x: VSPO
4x: Neo Porte

>PER STREAMER
58x: Pekora
21x: Miko
17x: Marine
9x: Nijisanji, Subaru
8x: Hololive, Toya
6x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Suisei
5x: Yashiro
4x: Fuwa, Hal, Iroha, Mio, Shiina, Towa
3x: Chiroru, Leos, Okayu, Koyori
2x: Aki, Flare, Fubuki, Hinano, Ibrahim, Korone, Lamy, Lui, Maimoto, Nerumero, Salome, Shion, Tsukasa, Watame
1x: Air, Ayame, Beni, Botan, Chloe, Choco, Fuwamoco, Gaku, Gura, Gundou, Hibari, Himawari, Ina, Kaede, Kanade, Kanata, Kanato, Kiara, Laplus, Lize, Mel, Mito, Mori, Mysta, Noel, Nose, Nozomi, Nui, Polka, Ponto, Qpi, Raden, Rikiichi, Rion, Roco, Ryushen, Ui

>>58352032
Because Salome's 6view CCV literally every stream is relevant today? Retard. Learn what "record" means.

>>58352065
KEK!
>*Laughs in ID

>>58352032
nijicope

>>58352050
>la+ will no longer stream on YouTube
Wait I thought the drama was her not making any views in YT. Why is she streaming elsewhere? Is she an idiot?

>>58352020
Comments like that make me smile. They can't memoryhole how when Pekora took her month break a lot of her viewers just watched other people. While it'd hurt Holo to lose its top 5, the box adjusts.

>>58352077
Gura strat?

>>58352107
A record doesn't mean anything if they can't maintain those numbers. Sharkie is a 30k shitter for karaoke now.

>>58352078
Last time anontach posted a reddit journal of a depressed nijifags here, probably him

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY*

>9/11 DAILY TALLY
37,393: Gura (Hololive)
16,878: Mumei (Hololive)
9,843: FuwaMoco (Hololive)
9,747: Nerissa (Hololive)
7,980: FuwaMoco (Hololive)
7,396: Bijou (Hololive)
5,980: Mori (Hololive)
5,820: Regis (Holostars)


>EN GOLDS FOR SEPTEMBER 2023
1) Mumei (Hololive) - 21,874 - Unarchived Karaoke
2) Luca (Nijisanji) - 28,501 - NijiMelody Relay
3) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 12,142 - It Takes Two
4) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 11,690 - FuwaMoco Morning
5) Bijou (Hololive) - 11,307 - Elden Ring
6) Amelia (Hololive) - 26,831 - Outfit Reveal
7) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 15,476 - Advent Minecraft
8) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 10,735 - FuwaMoco Morning
9) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 21,257 - Advent Japanese Class
10) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 22,406 - Karaoke Stream
11) Gura (Hololive) - 37,393 - Outfit Reveal

>PER COMPANY
10x: Hololive
1x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
6x: FuwaMoco
1x: Amelia, Bijou, Gura, Luca, Mumei

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
35p: FuwaMoco
16p: Bijou
9p: Mumei
5p: Amelia, Gura, Luca, Mori
3p: Baelz, Fauna, IRyS, Pomu, Sonny
2p: Nerissa
1p: Kronii, Meloco

>>58352030
>>58352065
>>58352108

>>58352115
It's complicated. She want to pivot to just making video and pre-recorded content on her channel BUT she would still stream on Twitch
Basically she want to have her cake and eat it too. Probably thought recorded content are easier to make

>>58352077
That game doesn't do very good numbers though, does it?

>>58352137
What are Salome's numbers, yellow monkey?

Serious question - what are the chances of mumei actually beating IRyS to 1M?
Even at this rate, I still think IRyS will be the first councilRyS to get it.

>>58352108
If they get another cull
Yes, they did botted regloss subs and YT rejects it

>>58352023
I sometimes check the archives around Councils debut just to see the amount of hate or apathy she got. Pretty wild how inverted everything turned out, for the better of course, can't even imagine EN without Mumei anymore

>>58352157
Still a buff last time someone played it, the FOTM isn't a month old yet

>>58352148
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
189x: Hololive
61x: Nijisanji
3x: Holostars
1x: Idol

>PER STREAMER
23x: Fauna
22x: Gura
21x: Mori
19x: Mumei
17x: IRyS
14x: Baelz, FuwaMoco, Ina, Mysta
13x: Kronii
11x: Amelia
9x: Kiara, Vox
5x: Bijou
4x: Pomu, Selen, Shu
3x: Luca, Nerissa, Nina, Ren
2x: Alban, Finana, Hololive English, Ike, Shiori, Wilson
1x: Bandage, Enna, Elira, Flayon, Fulgur, Luxiem, Millie, Petra, Regis, Roca, Rosemi, Sonny, Vesper

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
225p: Fauna
166p: Ina, Mori
159p: IRyS
155p: Mumei
132p: Baelz
119p: Gura
117p: FuwaMoco
105p: Mysta
102p: Kronii
92p: Kiara
88p: Amelia
74p: Vox
72p: Luca
51p: Bijou
37p: Shu
31p: Selen
30p: Nerissa
28p: Pomu
27p: Shiori
24p: Nina
19p: Ike
17p: Sonny
16p: Ren
15p: Enna, Fulgur
14p: Uki
13p: Finana, Millie
11p: Axel
10p: Alban, Elira, Hololive English, Wilson
9p: Vesper
7p: Regis
6p: Bandage, Rosemi, Kotoka
5p: Flayon, Luxiem, Petra, Roca
4p: Bringer, Magni
3p: Bettel, Hakka, Poko
2p: Meloco
1p: Kyo, Maria, Shinri, Pippa

>>58352157
King got 39k with it, Miko 45k, Pekora 34k
It unironically is a bigger buff if you are more retarded

>>58352164
170k+ CCV 3D debut

>>58352116
>someone taking a break is the same as graduating or in some other way leaving permanently
The average IQ here is like 20.

>>58352088
No im talking about fwmc.

>>58352165
do your math reps...

>>58352156
It's not easier. There's a reason 99% of the industry switched to livestreaming. Prerecorded content gets poor views and poor donations because of the lack of interactivity with the audience.

>>58352137
And Salome is a 4view shitter now lmao

>>58352203
CCV next stream? How much did she "maintain?"

All of Council's 3D showcases will be sub-30k.

https://twitter.com/HexHaywire/status/1701381129973194886
>FILIPINO ONLY ZATSUDAN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO6dgAzwk2o
final predictions for this?

>>58352165
Mumei was set to beat her 4 weeks ago (when everyone was Advent-buffed), she's gonna beat her even more now since IRyS got sick and hasn't streamed in quite some time.

>>58352239

>>58352214

>>58352208
NTA, but the point that the original anon was making is dumb as fuck because it applies to every VTubing company, so singling out Hololive in particular doesn't make much sense

>>58352215
Oh yeah no, the dawgies secured that

>>58352224
Now that I think about it, even Mr.Beast livestream his event nowadays, so you might be right

>>58352242
It's a zatsudan anon

>>58352156
Well, there are examples like critical, Ludwig etc who had been streaming in twitch previous then post clips to YouTube but now even they moved to YouTube. That's enough information about the state of streaming in twitch. Why doesn't she make a separate channel to post shorts and clips while she streams normally on her main ch? Also, it's kinda bullshit that cover doesn't allow talents to have multiple channels, main for streaming and songs, and a second one for clips and shorts. Hire editors for the second channels and they'd produce a second income stream for themselves.

>>58352222
I did, considering variables IRyS would still get it.
>>58352249
Mumei's going back to school.

>>58352256
ID4 will mog Advent even harder than ID3 mogged Council.

>>58352182
Her original personality was just...weird. Imagine someone as already awkward as Mumei trying to do a character bit on top of that.

>>58352238
Wait, I thought he was trying his hardest to distance himself from his ancestry? What gives?

>>58352030

>>58352279
>Also, it's kinda bullshit that cover doesn't allow talents to have multiple channels
They do, did you forgot about Choco sub channel? Or Kiara German channel?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45ZfAdZuaok

>>58352227
Nijikeks don't seem to value consistency at all, probably because that metric doesn't help them. They yell to the heavens about a special event getting big numbers, botted or not, and then simply ignore that their talents can't maintain anything close to that any other time in their regular streaming schedule.

>Vsaikyou
>Valorant
RIP numbers

>>58352203
Beat 193K first before you talk about Salami nijikeks lmao

>>58352208
do you think sana, coco and rushia fans left and dropped hololive after they left?
some of them probably did, but at the very least a significant fraction remained for quite some time

>>58352020
I guess I just see more value in a person like Pekora and Marine than you. It's really mindboggling how much just these two people contribute to Hololive. But I guess they're just as equally disposable as some green succubus whore to you.

>>58352283
Mumei's subs aren't dependent on her streaming.

>>58352312
Oh no who could have seen this coming after Hal said last year he will change it up in the future?

>>58352301
>Kiara German channel
Kiara forgot that existed.

>>58352296
He needs to find a source of viewer.

>>58352224
>because of the lack of interactivity with the audience.
I'll go further: there is no practical difference ro competitive differential between
>a vtuber that only does video uploads
and
>animators and other content creators that only do video uploads
The whole reason vtubers prevailed over
>pic related
is exactly because you can actually interact with the vtubers.

Merryweather had a very good thing going back then when he released these videos of anthropomorphized browser girls, anthropomorphized Minecraft mob girls but all of that got washed away when Myth SWEPT the whole market for this type of cute girls and the reason was simple
>you can't actually interact with the vtubers

>>58352312
Forgot pic

>>58352337
>Mumei
25k
>Fauna
21k
>Kronii
18k
>Baelz
12k
>Collab
26k

>>58352339
That is beside the point, the point is that Cover allow it

>>58352279
Ludwig signed an exclusivity contract with YT for a lot of money. IDK about the other guy, I think he just got pissed at twitch over some policy or monetization changes

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SIgs-KA1tVE
announcement from emperor, vsai valo, apesex is dead

>>58352020
>>58352116
Hypothetically, with the current roster and situation can it really stay as popular as it is if Marine, Suisei, Pekora, and Miko is not in Hololive anymore?
Unlike years ago in Hololive's infancy, the current members and new members are adjusted to easy numbers without the need to find ways to stay relevant
>Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times

>>58352369
>Even Hal abandon Apex
Grim

>>58352347
>you can't actually interact with the vtubers
Sorry, the full sentence got mangled beyond recognition, I should be
>you can't actually interact with them while you can interact with the vtubers

>>58352369
The problem is that no good game exists to replace Apex as the competitive standard.

>>58352312
Will this hit 100K? How is of Valo's number in JP sphere?

800 waiting for Hajime already. This looks like an easy 100k.

>>58352387
It will take time but eventually they will have to adjust, I think
Gonna be hard tho, since usually it's the top member who is driving the branch and give others idea of what to do

>>58352387
It's a stupid question. Depends on how/why they graduated and what they would say in the graduation stream.

>>58352338
He said that 2 years ago as well, so it wasn't certain

>>58352387
>>58352322
>can it really stay as popular as it is if Marine, Suisei, Pekora, and Miko is not in Hololive anymore?
There is a HUGE gulf between
>stay as popular as
or
>seeing more value
and
>the entire company is dead

>>58352387
Only Marine and Suzy would ever possibly leave, it would be a blow but the tidal wave of their graduations would ensure successors. The holobox is plenty deep.

>>58352369
Who plays Valorant? Laplus? Reine?

>>58352369
I actually dislike organized 5v5 valorant tournaments since 5 POVs do not generate numbers.

>>58352407
Nips should play a better game

>>58352283
Mumei seems to grow faster when she’s gone

>>58352295
No it wasn’t that, the amount of hate and doxxing targeted at Council was insane. People desperately wanted the new HoloEN gen to fail.

>>58352387
koyori would just take over as the top talent if that happened. pekora and miko have been training her to be a first army member for a year now. I think she could handle it.

>>58352369
RIP numbers

>>58352452
Also 5v5 mean less matches with the same number of participants, and harder to form a team

>>58352438
FPS players will play it, but basically them , Roboco and Ayame

>Myth lost to Gokisei
>Council lost to HoloX
>Advent lost to ReGLOSS
EN can't score a single win.

One funny thing about this whole discussion is that the original anon that made the >>58351935 post is likely the same anon that created the
>NO FIRST ARMY, NO KOYORI NO KORONE
ultra coep tally.

Can anyone make it for this month? I have a hunch that Chiroru and VSPO would take the lead

>>58352369
Was this why King suddenly come back to Valorant the past few days?

>>58352369
>announcement from emperor, vsai valo, apesex is dead
wait why? what happened to apex?

I WANT TO FUCK AN OVERWORKED OFFICE LADY ALL OF A SUDDEN

>>58352503
Valo overtook it as the dating program

>>58352460
That's just schizos. There's still Mumei schizos lurking around. There was actual legit criticism of debut-era Mumei.

>>58352503
Nip is tired of it, all the Vtuber drama stemming from it doesn't help either

A-chan sings better than shiori....

Do you guys think VSPO EN will be small corpo tier, or a fair match for Niji?

>>58352500
dude probably got earlier noticed from Hal so he can practiced it faster than the rest, like it or not he bring numbers

>>58352497
Didn't they need to add Mio and someone else to the super cope tally

>>58352165
IRyS will pull a subathon and end hoomen hopes. Screencap this.

>>58352077
>Kanji and Senchou's aging brain

https://youtu.be/sHZ2wA2P7AY
A-chan singing Shunkan Heartbeat

>>58352369
Surely all the people who claimed to like Apex for itself wouldn't spontaneously switch just because other streamers start training for this right

Oh, they gathered up that shorts spam into one video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teRHZdcXaDQ

>>58352472
There's not much hype parodying a 5v5 Esport shooter game since this type of game are shoot on-sight with super fast kill-window. It's only entertaining if the participant are in top meta of the game.

>>58352552
SOUL

>>58352552
the best gen song

>>58352552
Your breathing reps atyan...

>>58352542
Phase/Idol tier. And no, not Pippa, their other people. So like 300-400 for their better people.

Still confused?

>>58352503
losing mindshare in jp, their biggest esports team CR just disbanded, current JP teams arent that good either, and most fps streamers are playing mostly valo nowadays

>>58352544
I'm not confident with Hal's number if this what King pulled out of that game... JP Valo seems dead in number

>>58352589
what's regloss

>>58352412
Valo seems pretty horrific for numbers, at least from the casual viewer.

>>58352606
JP7 in all but name

AIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE MR KORO

Just say they're not homocollabers and i will sub immediately

>>58352589
>lap's stream
are you even trying?

>>58352628
That's nice.

>>58352594
Huh CR disband? Since when?

>>58352337
Holy shit, this is so spread out, why does Cover do this?

>>58352594
Not an FPS player so I'm not familiar with the intricacies of the competitive scene, but why would e-sports people switch to Valorant if from what I hear at least it's a worse spectator experience?

>>58352605
This is non-tournament numbers. Watch King get 40k doing Valorant practice with his team for Vsaikyou

>>58352606
VSinger branch

>>58352542
Depends on how blatant the boring by Brave will be

>>58352628
Leeching a dead man?

>>58352648
With only one member who actually loves singing?

>>58352606
Regloss is Regloss

>>58352529
>all the Vtuber drama stemming from it doesn't help either
What drama? Do You have examples? I only know apex reputation But never got into it kek

>>58352648
>vsinger branch
>their members say they can't sing
how does that work

>>58352640
very recently, their star player RAS suddenly had to leave the team due to mandatory army service (hes KR), and due to rules they couldnt get a 3rd fast enough to participate so they just disbanded

>>58352643
If the Apex tournament scene is dead, you move to the next tournament scene. Valorant is the next active scene

>>58352542
These days 1.5k is a fair match for NijiEN so, yeah…

>>58352585
Isn’t that lowballing it a lot? Would a branch of gamer girls be outranked by Aia and Scarle?

>>58352312
Five person teams are gonna make it much more awkward for all-girl teams like Startend to happen. I think the amount of non-Stars collabing girls participating will probably drop by quite a bit with this.

HEY DO YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT REGLOSS IS? HEY DO YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT REGLOSS IS? HEY DO YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT REGLOSS IS? HEY DO YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT REGLOSS IS? HEY DO YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT REGLOSS IS?

>>58352605
but his stream still bring numbers, and with the tournament buff who knows how much numbers he's getting. I mean come on anon it's niji with magic number and their fans loyally streaming through smart fridge

There's a pretty high chance of the karaoke record being broken 3 times this week. Kanade will beat the shark, Hajime will beat Kanade and Raden will beat Hajime.

>>58352435
I honestly can't imagine the company surviving without them. It's so incredibly top heavy the amount of influence just these 4 have. How many events did Pekora organize this year? How many big sponsors did she alone get? Thinking remaining Holos would suddenly get a burst of inspiration to fill the void is rather dumb.

>>58352642
Wasn't holoX 3D debut also one per week? Or was that ID1

ZETAKOYO. Why Zeta so shy?

I'm watching Sora's karaoke VOD
It's really nice!
https://youtu.be/PwFhA7NvTco?t=410

>>58352688
Why would it suddenly die if people seemed to be obsessed with it for years? Yeah I saw other anons say a popular team disbanded but if it's that popular surely someone else could just take up the mantle.

>>58352542
They will at least have better support than Niji.

>>58352640
CR's Apex team wasn't able to attend the ALGS championship as Ras their star player had to do military service. CR itself is still alive

>>58352369
>click stream
>first thing I hear is "Astel Leda"

>>58352693
Literally only Ayame is on that list that would touch that dogshit game

>>58352693
Ah yeah, Startend was created specifically for Apex

Will we finally be free of Shitpex?

>>58352645
He got 40k for tournament buffed Apex, normal apex for him is 25k-30k. No way Valo is doing 40k

So bets on Ame and Gura doing their Anniversary stream today? Kiara, Ina and Mori apparently are all doing theirs today

>>58352696
singing that challenges freedom

>>58352542
Really depends who they get, but I could see them being high 3view, which does compete with a lot of NijiEN these days.

>>58352337
poor fauna. same day as raden's first karaoke stream. council just can't catch a single break.

>>58352675
it was supposed to be Ao, Kanade, Hajime, and FWMC as a vsinger group of different nationalities.
EN3 had missing talents and they yoinked fwmc. Raden and Ririka were just filling some spots for regloss

Odds a male joins?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d__Zs0oClYg

>>58352716
I think it's similar thing in my place, FPS tournament scene is based on FOMO

>>58352693
Off the top of my head there are Laplus, FBK and Ayame as potential recruits for Holo representation

>>58352757
Ao isn't a nip???

>>58352716
Apex has been in a decline for a few years. Most people just want to compete in games.

>>58352436
>Marine
I don't see any reason for Marine to leave?
>Suzy
I know shitposters have been spreading this shit, but why would she? She's not a complete retard that think she can win against the big fish by herself without Hololive backing her
I see her relationship with Hololive as a symbiotic mutualistic relationship

>>58352696
Why don't you watch stream anon, or read thumbnails for that matter.
they're just reviewing their debuts for free content.

>>58352693
Not necessarily, only Holo only teams. Others will just form groups with Niji girls and Vspo.

>>58352763
I remember this happening before where Scarle left and then they pulled one of the guys in.

>>58352716
it wasnt sudden ofc, not much support from EA (no big tournaments in japan) while for valo a JP team went on a miracle run in a big tournament, on top of that riot hosted tournaments in japan so slowly their mindshare build while apex’s declined

>>58352763
Low, unless someone gets "sick"

>>58352772
Would Ayame do a mixed gender team nowadays? Obviously Lap and FBK would.

>>58352772
I give you Laplus and Ayame, and toss Roboco and Choco for good measure but I don’t think Fubuki shows any interest in try harding FPS

>>58352789
Reminder that Suisei didn't invite a single holo to either of her last two 3D lives.

>>58352763
Reimu will get "sick" and Uki will take her spot

>>58352820
Maybe years ago, but not now.

>>58352799
There are barely any holos that like valo and of them only maybe Matsuri seems likely to join.

>>58352645
>Watch King get 40k doing Valorant
Never managed to do it for other Valo tournaments. He won't do it now.
40k at best would be during the day itself.
20-30k during practice.

>>58352387
Redundant scenario. No way any of First Army gonna leave any time soon, even the so called "reclining" Pekora is still in a better spot than most people with companies throwing sponsorship at her for existing

Is it weird that almost every single VSPO stream has chat speeds in the single digits? Even +10k event streams can barely climb above 200 comments/minute in spurts.

I know I give Nijis a lot of shit for being silent spectators but what is this?

Zeta ruining the streamm..

>>58352767
>>58352784
Is this an indictment against e-sports? Traditional sports like football can have superstar players and dominant teams rise to fame and decline into obscurity over and over, but the sport itself is never in danger of going away. Imagine if Michael Jordan's retirement was just the end of basketball and all the basketball players switched to frisbee for some reason.

>>58352763
The boys will suddenly drop in as the opposite team, and they'll all be on comms.

>>58352852
One of these does not belong

Koyori is collabing withTempus enabler lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaKxfBnlo4s

>>58352369
feels like the 5th or so time I'm hearing this from him.
didn't he say the same thing right after the tournament with Startend as well?

>>58352500
kek he needed to start the leeching for the next tournament already

November 19th the date for the Valorant thing

>>58352860
That happens to most youtube streamers that has majority twitch audience

>>58352890
>member of a golden gen collabing with a member of a different golden gen
I don't see the problem here.

>>58352817
>Low
lmao remember last time?

>>58352890
Enable Koyo cheat code

>>58352369
from stream:
8 teams of 40 people
40 people invited, 8 each from tier 1-5 based on rank
Draft among leaders, 5th person may be random

>>58352870

>>58352815
Football would die if the NFL fucks with it and basically stops supporting it

>58352831
You still can't give a good and logical reason why she would leave
And she didn't invite Holos for variety
Besided, she's a guest in most 3D LIVE

>>58352852
>>58352645
you forget that anycolor will shamelessly bot boost his numbers any time they want. they got him to some 40k on minecraft with a chat speed of lui's 6k

>>58352918
>draft
No holo girl is going to participate in this

>>58352915
lmao

>>58352918
>8 teams
Damn this is smaller than Apex tourney

Zeta said there are no crane game in Indonesia, is it true ID bros?

>>58352208
When we had graduations or terminations before the same thing happened. Some left, most didn't.

>>58352312
Is there ANY FPS game that gets decent JP numbers these days?
Apex is dying
Valo is numbers poison
OW lemao

>>58352369
so you need 5 people to make a team compared to the 3 man team of Apex. Wonder how many teams there will be for this.

>>58352912
I haven't been on twitch in a while but I remember it as having a pretty lively chat especially on streams that can hit 4view+.

Effortless 10k for Zeta

>>58352953
i can see towa/lap/robo, but they are all shitters at the game so who knows

>>58352870
the simple answer is modern e-sport is heavily relied on the developer with nerf, patch and balance things. traditional sports don't have that basketball will still a basketball even if you don't watch it for more than 3 years

>>58352953
(besides Laplus I mean)

>>58352991
probably mixed team with vspo girls

>>58352776
She's hafu

>>58352912
twitch audience loves to spam chat with any retarded shit anonchama

Laplus is making her move

>>58353000
towa...

>>58352953
Maybe Towa, but she is kinda busy. Lap of bust
>>58352991
RBC gets stressed olin these type of events. She is not joining

>>58352918
>Draft
This already smells like potential drama

>>58352988
that's the thing, twitchviewers prefers chatting on twitch in another pov they also watch.

>>58352860
dont worry about it...

>>58352387
Nobody would argue that they would take a hit, but there are many competent, active second stringers like Fubuki, Subaru, Watame, Koyori, Korone, Okayu, etc that would keep things rolling on business as usual.

>>58352763
>is that a female collab i see

>>58352312
>Valorant
>8 teams with 40 players
That's fucking boring, I'm sure a big appeal of Vsaikyou was to see all the 20 different teams with 60 people playing at the same time.

>>58352642
At least it's all weekends, so it's still better than myth showcases where Cover in their infinite wisdom decided to jam Gura onto a weekday despite the next weekend being completely free

Why are people freaking out about this Laplus Twitch thing? Have a little faith in JP. They never miss.

>>58353044
If King is in you just know Hal will rig it for him to get the best teammate possible

>>58353028
This is in november, too close to her concert for her to be able to practice besides the eventual scrims

>>58353020
see >>58353057
youtube streams are just extra pov for them that they open picture in picture

>>58353084
>people

>>58353084

WHAT IS REGLOSS A-CHAN? IS THAT A NEW MERCH? CAN I EAT IT?

>>58353022
So she's gonna stop streaming (on YT) to focus on videos, but said videos are going to be outsourced?

umm A chan is 10k streamer??!

>>58352710
It would hurt for Hololive, but the idea of them not being able to survive is entirely wrong. Members like Fubuki would just step up again in hard times.

>>58353080
>muh random weekday
sharkie would have lost to moona even if her showcase was on a weekend. talent always wins in the end.

>>58353113
Idk honestly, it seem like she is doing EVERYTHING at the same time

>>58353084
>never
Well they hired Lap didn't they?

>>58352995
>traditional sports don't have that basketball will still a basketball
That’s a bad example because the NBA fiddled massively with the rules including “nerf” rules
>see: Hack-a-Shaq rules
to a point a person that lapsed into a coma in the Dream Team era would wake up in 2023 not recognizing the game.

Same thing goes for soccer as well, as anyone that watched the game from the l”back pass to goalie allowed” can attest

>>58353114
You still don't know yet?

>>58353120
>Akai na~
>40k+ ccv
too strong

>>58353103
anon chat remains low even on solo streams

>>58353132
Well Kobo better get at least 90k since she's the supreme ID talent

>>58353113
she's looking for an editor, doesn't mean she's not doing everything else (scripting, planning, recording)

>>58353147
I think the point is that unlike with video games where one company owns your whole sport, no one entity can take soccer away from anyone.

>>58353028
Towa is busy and is genuinely bad at Valorant.

Remember the Hololive members doing a few matches against each other? Roboco was the overall MVP simple because she's THE Valorant autism in Hololive.

>>58353114
>anon has zero reading and media comprehension
reglosschizo.....

>Advent falls below 10k
/#/ shits on them
>ReGLOSS falls below 10
silence

>>58353022
>Won't stream on YT
>This
I pity anyone who choose her as their oshi

>>58353147
Jesus Christ that rule seems needlessly complicated to keep track of. Why not just disallow it completely if you are gonna go that far anyway?

Why do you guys so hung up about whether or not Holo gonna join an FPS tournament?

>>58353212
It's okay when JPs do it.

>>58353212
>>ReGLOSS falls below 10
its only one

>>58353103
Why multistream with two different video services? There a plenty of websites that will let you view twitch streams at the same time.

>>58353169
Nope, where can I pre-order ReGloss? I'm an avid hololive supporter

>>58353147
i can see them abolishing the 3-point line because the current meta has been abusing it lately.

>>58353116
>react content
she's leeching from 5 100k+ streams
she's a 5k streamer when she's not being a leech

>>58353229
yes, and it happened 2 days after debut

I dream of a day where we get holoEN chuubas who’re allowed to stream NFL games for live commentary… Just imagine bros…

>>58353223
>join an FPS tournament?
fps autist are the fucking worst, remember all the shit aqua got?

>>58353212
Adventfag brags so hard over debut numbers that shitposters gets free (you)s. Regloss use the numbers to fight against nijis. We are different faggot.

>>58353238
bro they would sooner add a four point line the fucking idiots

>>58353231
Are they actually multistreaming?
I'd like to see an example and look at the chat replay for the twitch stream

>>58353229
Will be 2 tonite

>>58353255
kys ESLtard

>>58353238
Adding 4-point line will fix the meta I belieb

>>58353249
Madden perms when Jap!?

>>58353212
That's the reason why no one stream at that time slot

>>58353255
Delicious JPkeks cope

>>58353277
Hit the nail on the hammer huh, faggot

>>58353173
they're mainly twitch viewers, they're still watching and spamming chat on a fpsshaka stream while watching his vspo girl accessory playing minecraft via picture in picture

>>58352387
cover opting choose for fame-seekers rather than those who are in it for the long haul would kill the company in the future when the first armies goes away. it's a good thing they got koyori, but regloss, uproar, tempus? wtf would those contribute in the future. For advent, it's enough that we have biboo and fwmc since they provide the same vibe as gura

>>58353192
Mate, are you even aware of how tight FIFA grasp in the sport is?
Here is an example: did you know that if a club sues a FIFA recognized organization (let’s say, UEFA) in a regular court, FIFA usually threatens to boot every club from that country from every FIFA organized tournament (including national teams) until the lawsuit goes away?
That’s why some soccer heavy countries have a parallel justice system, “sports courts” to deal with this type of disputes

>>58353255
>We are different
You are another Holo vs. Holo faggot no matter what rhetorical device you use:
>JP better than EN/ReGloss
>Myth/Advent better than Council.
>Everyone better than ID.
All the same faggotry in slightly different forms from you.

>>58353249
You dream about sub 1k streams?

More clip numbers.
Split today is 19.8M(+270k) HL to 9.1M(-460k) NJ.
Recent split is 6.5M(+190k) HL to 1.4M(+60k) NJ.

>>58353212
Thing = :|
JAPANESE thing = :0

I want to PLAP this flat board

>>58353295
FWMCmorning ep18 numbers how? >:)

Kino...
https://youtu.be/hcVvVA5VzmU

>>58353332
Graph.

>>58353341
>>58353295
Can you both go back to whatever mudhole you crawled out of?

>>58352387
Every single instance of a mainline JP talent leaving the company has been a big event.
And of the 3 that left, only one did so willingly.
I still remember all the doomposts about the "string of graduations" that were supposed to follow her.
And in fact we did find out that it was definitely a plausible scenario since at least Marine and Haachama have gone on record saying that both of them were thinking of quitting around that time. The only person after that event was kicked because she was literally a security risk, one step away for vomiting company secret on some rando's public stream.

Now?
As of now, there's zero reason for ANY talent to outright graduate.
Rushia's little spergout has also cemented the fact that if they do stupid shit they CAN and WILL be kicked out - no matter how much damage the company suffers financially.
But more than that stick, the carrots are what will keep the roster in place.
Too much work? Management will tell you to take a freak.
Higher aspirations? Hololive is literally the world's biggest chuuba company, and owner of the biggest 3D Studio in Japan. And Hololive also allows you to do various things involving fleshies while still working as a Virtual talent.
Money? Practically infinite, even when you're not working that much.
Friendship? Holos are one of the tightest friend groups in this industry.
Antis? Both management and other Holos will support and take care of your mental needs, and teach you how to avoid getting them in the first place (you are, of course, free to ignore their advise if you want as well).
Want to collab with other chuubas, outside the box, or with fleshies? Management won't stop you, and will probably even help you out with organizing stuff.

As a Holo you are a literal celebrity without any of the downsides of celebritydom - i.e. able to live a normal life irl without getting recognized by anyone.
I predict that the current roster of Holos will not have anyone willingly graduating for at least the next 5 years.

>>58353323
Know your worth step branch, you will never be a real sister branch.

>>58353332
More clip numbers by Source.

>>58353341
Kek JPkeks already mindbroken comparing day 2 stream against 1 month lmao

>>58353241
>5k
Worse

>>58353332
More clip numbers by language.
ja: 13.1M(-130k) to 7.6M(-380k)
en: 5.2M(+180k) to 1.3M(-80k)

>>58353380
You really think Marine will wait five more years to have kids?

grim

>>58353332
>Regloss get 50k ccv debut streams
>Literally can’t beat 2 normal EN streams in views

>>58353419
>You think [headcanon]

>>58353231
>why are they both watching youtube and twitch streams
I mean why not? that's what I did when I watched vsaikyo when the god pov is on twitch

NEW CUTE FAT FUCK!?

>>58353419
I don't think she will ever have kids...

>>58353409
Graph.

>>58353386
Kek Zeta is such a debuff, cant wait to terminate ID

>>58353419
We are her kids already, vtuber fans are the replacement.

>>58353433
What's headcanon about it? Marine wanting kids is not a secret.

How to remove this? I thought this was only in mobile?

Marine gold.

>>58352789
marine would probably quit before she runs out of time to have kids. She really, really wants kids. And she would quit once she gets married.

>>58352693
Wasn’t that just Aqua?

>>58353341
still 9800 on the worst day, impressive to hold this much after all this time.

>>58353471
Hajime gold. Her karaoke has a 150k floor.

>>58353212
>things that didn't happen
Rope, Nijifaggot.

>>58353147
I think the issue is that e-sports doesn't really have any 'hype' moments that a 'tourist' can easily understand. Also, e-sports in general lacks story arcs (e.g. Messi vs Ronaldo, LeBron coming back to Cleveland to win a championship)

For your shitposting needs

>>58353419
Marine will have my kids and she will nepohire them to Hololive.

>>58353485
EUcope

>>58353486
Shit you’re right

>>58353465
Some of my accounts has it some don't
I think the ones that aren't linked to any mobile numbers are the ones free from it (I can't remember which are which too many of them)

>>58353306
you are trying too hard for (You)s, have some self respect

>>58353425
it's clip views anonchama
when you have viewers actually watch your streams live, they don't need to watch clips again

>>58353249
Is it even forbidden? Most NFL watchalong don't show the game on stream like any other movie watchalong. Holoen even the faggots just don't care about sports in general.

>>58353255
>>58353295
>>58353341
>>58353386
>>58353448
>>58353383
Nijifaggots.

>>58353465
I use this Ublock filter to remove it.
www.youtube.com##.ytd-rich-section-renderer.style-scope > .ytd-rich-shelf-renderer.style-scope
youtube.com##yt-reaction-control-panel-view-model
youtube.com##yt-reaction-control-panel-overlay-view-model

What numbers will Marine get on Kanji Go? She put 78-yo Marine as the thumb, that should help right

>>58353488
So you admit to shitposting.

>>58353488
Lui...

>>58353425
based /#/ anon

>>58353490
it's happening in this very thread. people are shitting on advent while making excuses for their precious JPs.

>>58353540
50k

>>58353465
You can't. Play your videos in your console if you don't want to see that

Nerissa... what happened...

>>58353540
37k

>>58353531
JPnig cope

>>58353419
She'll have mine and continue to stream.

>>58352870
With the exception of the FGC e sports completely skipped the “people doing it part time after work” phase into the superstars being paid millions phase without actually having the massive viewership or sponsorships of modern professional sports. The WNBA has stronger financial fundamentals than most esports groups

>>58353557
>unironically seeing things
insecure faggot

>>58353587
>Follow Kiara footstep
>get Kiara number

>>58353587
her fanbase are mostly SEA and kfps

>>58353448
Lmao Last SEAmurai deflecting to INDOGS (his own kind) when they cant argue back, bow to your gods now, the ENchads.

>>58353557
>t.Nijifaggot
It's easy to spot you retards trying the same holo vs holo garbage every day.

>>58353587
was the first time shiori was more likeable than Nerissa

>>58353587
memberships though

>>58353587
She doesn't read SCs. Don't read SCs, don't get SCs, pretty simple.

>>58353620
retard, kiara always has high SC.

>>58353595
i accept your concessions

>>58353620
Kiara gets good superchats though
Nerissa gets shitty viewership AND shitty supers

>>58353419
Why would should need to wait?
The vast vast majority of her audience (and of most holos) aren't the type of extreme unicorns that would care about what relationships the actress has behind the scenes

>>58353620
nta, but kiara sc number not that bad right?

nice marketing there cover

>>58353625

Marine's Kanji de go will be funneled to Hajime after she's overlapping with the other three
I think she's doing this on purpose

>>58352817

1k waiting for Hajime already. This is going to be massive.

>>58353620
>the average /#/tranny
holy kek the state

>>58353587
Wow it turns out when you base your personality off of being a lesbian, then turn around and lust after cock nonstop, you end up getting zero gachis from ANY direction.

>>58353649
what if she doesn't want to do both at the same time

>>58353321
I mean that’s more that FIFA would make an African dictatorship blush with how corrupt they are.

>>58353587
Dunno why but she never do superchat reading or any part C, her viewer probably prefer to member instead of SCing

>>58353672
you keep on repeating it, the numbers won't manifest

>>58353084
people are just sad that one of the newer holos with the most potential just decided to quit the holobox entirely.

>>58353681
Turns out if you don't watch any streams and base your entire post off of reading threads you can make up anything you want

Umisea is good, actually.

>>58353531
Now THAT is hard cope

do you guys want some?

>>58353702
She didn't quit anything. Laplus is just looking for ways to expand the holobox even further.

>>58353212
Advent were the highly hyped golden 5/5 gen
ReGloss were the ??? gen

>>58353419
She already adopted Aqua

>>58353653
>wasting this much just to get a 2view streamer
Homosister will defend this lmao

>>58353489
FGC has story arcs all the time though. See the Sonicfox v Perfect Legend rivalry that culminated in 13-0.

Grimchad status ?

>>58353738
> holobox
> twitch
She's just going there to lay her career to rest anon. Whatever cope she uses for it doesn't matter, it's over.

>>58353739
ReGLOSS should be held to the same standards as JP, not EN. They're competing with holoX, not Advent.

>>58353653
hey that store in the back is sponsoring irys

>>58353721
Holotori >>
HoloCanines (when Koyori makes it) >>
Shiraken >>>

>>58353721
I would agree if only they did some FAKING COLLABS

>>58353686
You mean if she's too busy or something?
She can easily take a hiatus in between major projects
Given how previous holo hiatuses have went, both Cover and her audience would be fine with that

>>58353772
this, they shouldn't compete with runt gen like advent

>>58353765
feasting on advent

>>58353772
they're the first gen of a new sidebranch. they should be compared to Myth or Tempus

>>58353753
Who vs who?
Get out

>>58353587
she's supposed to get the music tourists but she hasn't done a new karaoke yet

>>58353681
>>58353633
Marine doesn't read SCs (sometimes she bothers to read reds) and she lusts over cock AND does endless lesbian rp. And she's the second most supa'd active holo.

sharkie's cover has stalled at 700k. it probably won't even hit 1m at this rate. what a flop.

>>58353738
>Laplus is just looking for ways to expand the holobox even further.
I doubt it. She has spent far too much time not making content and doing other non-Holo things.

>>58353733
>1500 yen
no thank you

https://twitter.com/amsrntk3/status/1701480000413933781

>>58353653
10% of all akas go to this.

>>58353815
Or instead of a retarded comparison how about you use an actual EN that does this, like Ina, or Mumei near her debut.

>>58353681
when did she lust over cock?

>>58353815
imagine being fucking wrong at everything. fucking threadreaders

I hope fps scene died so we got CGDCT content 24/7

>OMG ADVENT MORE LIKE FLOPVENT GRIM GRIM GRIM XDDDDDDDJD SAJAJSJSKSKSKA
Just a reminder that this is what our daily tally looked like before advent

>>58353803
Man talked shit until they went to a best of 10 match, lost 10-0, claimed he would have won with a different character, swapped and lost another 3 matches.

>>58353802
>japanese-speaking
>targets the japanese audience
>streams at JP primetime
>shilled by multiple first army JPs along with okakoro
>shilled during the 6th anniversary show
>nonstop main hololive channel shilling
nah, they're JP and they should be held to JP standards.

Okay then anon, how do you fix Hololive

>>58353681
retard