/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>men are easy
>just be nice to them

fanbase wars isn't vtubers, you must be confused

What behaviour?
And don't tell me you fell for the holo vs holo falseflagging by "Ruffians".

You had your first taste of the jp side content and that's how you react?
EOPs deserve nothing.

What behaviour exactly?

woah, it's like... I want to enjoy some lighthearted content after a day of work. Crazy concept huh???? :DDDDDDD For example, playing LoL - seething at toxic community would be better choice of spending my time off :DDDDDDDD

>>58309032
It's the cockroach effect. All the unicorns that felt disappointed by Fauna's friends comments and Gura's lack of streams flocked to Fuwamoco. They have quickly become the Unicorn's darlings.

Ruffians themselves are ok for the most part, but falseflaggers like to larp as them to shit on other girls
Also /baubau/ has a fair amount of /jp/ immigrants that don't like the other en girls

Wtf are you talking about?

>>58309032
imagine coming home to enjoy time with your dog. horrible people I tell ya.

>>58310185
>All the unicorns that felt disappointed by Fauna's friends comments and Gura's lack of streams flocked to Fuwamoco.
If true, what’s the issue again?

>>58310930
unicorns tend to be bitter lonely losers

BAU BAU

>>58311049
You’re generalizing here. Perhaps you’re just being toxic?

>>58309032
Nowadays I just watch their clips, so yeahp

>>58311099
i like that you're deflecting instead of denying

>>58310485
>/hirys/ 2.0
gonna tell you right now, you're better off disbanding and forming /advent/ with the other threads before the EN antis overtake the good posters

>>58310185
based retard missing out whole point of ruffians being in large part - never involved in superchatting and precisely choosing FuwaMoco as their first chuuba to supachat at. Literally watched chuubas for years, but never become JP holos members (because of language barrier) nor EN holos (because they are just slight upgrade over twitch thots). I know, you don't watch streams - biggest deal of FuwaMoco is how they actually managed to bring in completely fresh userbase. They weren't fighting over Gura's pathetic chumniggers scraps.

>>58311136
>instead of denying they’re losers
It’s just ad hominem at that point. It’s not a meaningful argument.

>>58309032
How did two girls with down syndrome make it into hololive? And why do anons watch their special needs streams that are made for children?

>>58311292
you know damn well no one in here wants a meaningful discussion

>>58311317
Because that’s hot

>>58311317

>>58310930
I don't have any issue. OP asked a question and I answered it

>>58311049
Bau bau faggot

>>58311334
Generalizing again.

>>58311403
generalize these nuts in your face, faggot

>>58311443
Not an argument

>>58311465
that's what your mom said

>>58309032
You obviously need some help, buddy.

>>58311508
You’re losing the debate. Why do you hate unicorns?

Unicorns deserve to be treated like this. Imagine crying because your oshi liked a tweet by a male. Have you seen how this board reacted to Shiori liking Axel? They act like women.

>>58309032
What behavior?

>>58311536
because they're pathetic

>>58309101
>Someone baits then into answering the "Are we friends question"
>Leans into it and implies daughter-wives is on the table
https://youtu.be/zmVzNew9UxE?si=HwUCQeWgyrubwAXU

>>58309101
The demons will do ANYTHING to ensure their viewers are happy and enjoying themselves.

>>58311049
Hey, hey, I may be bitter and a loser but I... Um... What was the third thing you said?

>>58311183
Not necessary yet. Nor do I think the other threads have any interest in that yet.

>>58310185
FuwaMoco is for Ojisan (unicorn)

>>58309153
Stop saying this. It's nothing like JP stuff any more than Kiara is actually like AKB48.

>>58312434
Most unicorns are young (18-25) incels. At a certain age you stop giving a fuck about "purity".

>>58309032
The most obnoxious fanbase for the most annoying vtubers. This one actually checks out.

Generally the nicest, sweetest vtubers tend to attract the worst kind of knuckle dragging trogdolyte for a fanbase, the kind of person that simply should not exist.
Gura, Kobo, Fauna, now the dogs.

>>58311936
>Imagine crying because your oshi liked a tweet by a male. Have you seen how this board reacted to Shiori liking Axel?
Isn’t it more to do with the long list of stuff she has done or said that has upset some people in general, and this being just one more thing? Like political divides or whatnot? People can dislike her for non-unicorn related reasons.
>>58312170
Not a meaningful comment.

>>58312561
no

>>58312733
no one believes you dislike her for non-unicorn reasons. whatever reasons you do bring up will just be normal shit that you skew in the worst way possible because of your unicorn bias.

>>58312539
not that dude but FWMC are the only ENs I've ever enjoyed watching while I normally only watch hololive
(as well a couple random indies)

I presume I like it because it's very similar to the Mr. Koro experience, being extremely similar in both when they're playing old games like DKC and horror kusoge.

>>58309032
>Aren't ruffians just 30+ year old deflated working adult men wanting an escape?
He asks, on the vtuber board on 4chan
We're all losers wanting to escape here

>>58312709
gura kobo and fauna are whores though

>>58311183
Already started happening. Reason for which I barely look at that general anymore even though I watch their streams regularly

>>58312709
Kobo attracted the worst because she’s pretty much ID only and annoying, just like her fans.

>>58312709
Behind every knuckle-dragging trogdolyte, is someone who would be living a better life if only >>58309101 had happened.

>>/vt/thread/58223371#p58229382

When are the talentless 1view trannies are going to stop seething about the success of these bitches?

>>58312561
>18 year old viewers have thousands of dollars to drop on vtubers
Lol 18 year old can barely afford living expenses.
The stereotypical unicorn is a lonely salaryman with no woman in his life so he spends that money on affection from women online.
FuwaMoco are cornering the Ojisan market because we are discerning consumers and will only support the purest, hence why whores will seethe about FuwaMoco (see above).

>>58312996
Bomu...

What behavior even? The ruffians are so infatuated with their dogs, they rarely ever leave their split

>>58309032
BAU BAU, Nijisister.

>>58312852
If I go along to entertain the idea that people are hating girls they perceive to be moving toward or directing collating with males, then have you really asked why? Like for example, male and female sports are separated by sex because many enjoy it more that way, so if you were to make females join the males in those sports, and many men were fighting against it because it ruins their entertainment, would those men actually be in the wrong? Can people prefer separation?

>>58313011
Never, because unlike when they pretend to be a purple seahorsekin VTweeter, its literally impossible for them to claim to like or pretend to be like FuwaMoco.
They'd have to reroll their very existence.

>>58313011
Maybe when they start streaming, even then they will seethe... BAU BAU

>>58309032
Bau Bau

>>58313056
>Lol 18 year old can barely afford living expenses
Imagine the kind of person has that money at that age and guess how they turn out.

>>58312176
>baits then into answering
They literally picked that from twitter

schizo antis have nothing. they've resorted to falseflagging as ruffians and trying to gaslight the board to create antis. kill yourselves.

>>58310485
>that don't like the other en girls
Why the fuck do I need to like other girls? I don't hate them or make anti posts about them but I'm getting tired of this forced unity crap.

>>58313420
If you're some sort of millionaire trustfund kid you could literally buy a pre-groomed pure waifu, and otherwise women will be lining up the block to date you, why would you spend hours upon hours watching vtubers with the plebs?
Seems like it's just a boogeyman that exists in your head and nowhere near the average.

>>58313134
I'd guess 75% of people don't even have an opinion on the sports issue you used as an example. Most people probably just agree because "Well, that's the way it's always been, right?" Not wanting to change something isn't always the same as agreeing with it, and I don't put much stock into an opinion that hasn't really grappled with an issue. Your example is shit anyway, there are scientific reasons why you wouldn't put men in the same lifting contest as women. The girls play games with dudes and interact with them all the time (it's basically impossible not to in the gaming space), but you're making some arbitrary differentiation between queuing up with their male coworkers versus their female ones.

>>58313689
You might be right, sorry, my mistake.

>>58311230
I read the whole list and actually thought "holy shit at least half of these is my mindset"

>>58313723
>Your example is shit anyway, there are scientific reasons why you wouldn't put men in the same lifting contest as women.
Chess is also segregated by sex. And anything intellectual that isn't just becomes male dominated, including games.
Yes woman are inferior to man in terms of intelligence and hand–eye coordination.
And also kill yourself you disgusting homobegging leech

>>58309032
You've been spamming shit like this all day.
Think of better material.

>>58309032
>How does this kind of content create a fanbase way worse than saplings in less than two months?
>bau bau
>Talks to you like a teacher from kindergarten
>bau bau (slowly developing brain damage)
There you go.

>>58313723
>there are scientific reasons for separation
If men wanted women to play the same sports, and women wanted it too, then it would happen. It doesn’t happen currently because it would ruin the entertainment value for many people.
Also Hololive in general, including even how Holo EN started off, appealed to many people who just wanted to watch the cute anime girls, as that was exactly what they provided them. It’s not really surprising that trying to change the foundation right now, would be something fought against by the fanbase they established. People don’t always like change, and maybe if they fought against it, they won’t have to have it?

>>58313825
>Literally has 11 kids while 95% of this board will never have any
Why wasn't I born rich....

>>58313874
For me is the entire list except 1.

>>58313056
whales != unicorns.

>>58313134
>Can people prefer separation?
It got boring over time with all the same sex collabs, maybe that's just me. HoloSALT was a good example of a kino Collab unfortunately the two grifters from tempus left and now that kino is gone. Shame really.. they have a dynamic no one else can reach

>He goes on /vt/ to complain about how streamers are doing 18+ content
>Sees streamers doing all ages content
>Complains

>>58309032
>Aren't ruffians just 30+ year old deflated working adult men wanting an escape?
I'm a mentally broken NEET but otherwise yes.

>>58311049
you seem to be projecting pretty hard there. are you okay anon?

>>58314020
nta but please don't be so retarded. If you have mixed gender sports leagues then it's the same as having a men's-only league. Women cannot compete with men at physical athletics.
This is why every now and then you hear about some big controversy about MtF trannies trying to get into the women's league. Even if they were receiving hormones as a teen, they still have a man's dense bone structure and build.
The divide exists due to biological realities, not "entertainment reasons"

>>58311230
>biggest deal of FuwaMoco is how they actually managed to bring in completely fresh userbase.
>"Fresh"
Pretty sure I've seen the same people from other holo's chats..

>suddenly /pol/

>>58309032
BAU BAU

>>58314245
NTA but I don't care about biological differences. When I watch female athletics for example, I want to see female cameltoes and not a man with a wig.

>>58314116
>It got boring over time with all the same sex collabs
Although allowing for continued same sex collabs can ruin your entertainment value, it also enhances the entertainment value for someone else. Hololive built a fanbase that strongly leans toward preference of same sex. So many fans will likely fight to protect it.

>>58314349
Same. I think a decent chunk of normies feel the same as well, but a competitive playing field is at least important to the women participating.

>>58313825
>Hololive market cap is 1 billion
Elon could buy most of the vtuber space with 1% of his net worth

Fuck it, I'll explain in detail for all of you retards.

>>58309147
>>58309225
>>58310640
>>58311977
>>58313106
This is a taste of it:
>>58311087
>>58311395
>>58313118
>>58313257
>>58314306
Every single criticism that's thrown their way is met with Ruffians Bau Bauing, like manchildren covering their ears shouting BAU BAU BAU I CAN'T HEAR YOU BAU BAU BAU. It's strange considering the average age of a Ruffian /here/. This thread isn't a great example of it, but find any other thread that has anons criticizing them and look at the responses. If it's not BAU BAU, it's them immediately shitting on another fanbase and/or vtuber, assuming the poster is a seething anti who only watches literal whores on twtich when it might just be a legit complaint about their content or showing concern for their future if things stay the same. I think it's because some of them have genuine insecurities about watching youtube kids content.

They always think it's Nijisanji, too (or at least pretend to). I think they like accusing Niji because they know the board is mostly against that agency so it's an easy target to get everyone quickly on their side to deflect off their shitty chlidish oshis or criticisms they find difficult to debate. They've even edited images with Nijisanji shit they ritual post on any thread complaining about the girls as if that ends that thread. No more discussion to be had.

Absolutely terrible fanbase and when you consider at least one of the girls CLEARLY visits this place for they sometimes go out of their way to 'btfo the antis' that are ONLY found /here/, then their fanbase are making it impossible for them to get valid feedback. They've also been caught shitting up other generals with their stupid barking that annoys everyone.

If you haven't already noticed, many of them bite bait CONSTANTLY. These two autistic women somehow managed to pull an entire herd of redditors to this shithole which has made it so much worse. I think some of it just comes from their being a new EN gen, but Ruffians more than any other Advent fanbase really don't know how to respond to negativity. Not all of them are bad, obviously, but you'd have to be fucking blind to not see a new KFP or sapling cult being formed in record time.

>>58314423
With a larger investment he could make genetically modified cat girls for the purposes of domestic ownership real, like he said he would, but he's too busy playing with rockets and buying shitty social media platforms.

>>58314245
>Women cannot compete with men at physical athletics.
Not many can, but you would always have some woman who made it into a male sport, and many angry men as a result of it. The key here, is the many men don’t want it. Are those men wrong for their preference?

>>58314470
BAU BAU

>>58314470
Bau Bau

tried a stream
>Ruffians, can you tell us how many hours are in a day
why the fuck are you watching this dora the explorer tier shit? They're fine for collabs, but the morning show is ridiculous

>>58314470
BAU BAU

>>58314490
Yeah they are wrong. Sports, at least the olympic-level kind, are based on meritocracy. If you get results, you should be there, and if you're ass pained about it then get better and out compete. Simple as.
That said, it's exceedingly rare for this to happen anyway.

>>58312709
>gura
>nicest and sweetest
Gura has always been a narcissistic sociopath.

>>58314470
BAU BAU--get some help/take your meds

>>58314296
YWNAB

I have never watched FWMC and never will.
They're more boring than Fauna and Mumei combined and their model is uninspired and bland too.

>>58313056
>unicorns aren't actually whales for the most part
Congratulations on finally realizing the truth.

>>58309032
What behavior? You give no examples and there's nothing in your picrel so what the fuck are you talking about? This kinda shit is why /vt/ is so shit. 100 fucking replies in a thread about nothing.

>>58314470
>"""criticism"""
>"""valid feedback"""
I read this as "low quality maritime-african bait" and the responses those threads get are equally low quality.

>>58314733
>more boring than Fauna and Mumei combined
That's just mean to Ina.

>>58314470
Based

>>58314733
Biboo loves fwmc and mumei lol

>>58314626
>Yeah they are wrong
But we are talking entertainment value here. If it makes them unhappy, why can’t they prioritize their own entertainment value over everything else? Why wouldn’t they?

>>58314742
NTA but they have been shitting on Gura asking chumbuds to abandon her for them

>>58314470
>BAU BAU is the new ogey or oh nyo phrase for dismissing retards
I like it. BAU BAU

>>58314591
that sounds comfy. I hope they lean into it. Timestamp?

>>58314470
t. Pero
BAU BAU BAU BAU

>>58314872
oh nyo~

>>58310185
What's worse their fanbase is filled with actual pedophiles posting art of loli twins. It's even worse than pebbles.

>>58314733
How would you know if you never watched them?

>>58314470
If you give any "valid criticism" in any of the generals the respective fanbase will shit on you.
Maybe stop making bad faith attacks veiled as concern trolling and people will genuinely respond to you?

>>58314470
>Every single criticism that's thrown their way is met with Ruffians Bau Bauing
What criticism? What is there to objectively blame them for?
And if you mean you give your personal opinion of distaste for them that’s not criticism that’s you just not liking it which opens you up to people giving their own opinion on yours as well.
You can’t say "man I hate these teletubbies with tits it’s such dumb content" and then expect a healthy discussion

>>58315102
>What's worse their fanbase is filled with actual pedophiles posting art of loli twins
I think you mean Japanese artists?

>>58314470
Take your fucking meds

>>58314470
too much text
I'm sorry but I don't care
-some frog whore

>>58314872
Timestamp/clip or it didn't happen.
The only time they've mentioned Gura is in wanting to interact with her, nothing has been negative.

I don't understand the anger towards fuwamoco. People enjoy the cute style, I think it's good. There are thousands of vtubers with other gimmicks and coombaiting, so why get angry about something different?

>>58315216
>You can’t say "man I hate these teletubbies with tits it’s such dumb content" and then expect a healthy discussion
Yeah, I just Bau Bau that shit.
I’m a ruffian, and I still discuss stuff when it seems reasonable. These are me for an example:
>>58313134
>>58314020
>>58314490
>>58314850

>>58309032
As usual it's tribalfaggots. It's not that Fuwamoco "created" the fanbase, but rather they were already present, just looking for a side to pick and then look down on everyone else. They just want to feel superior to other people who didn't choose the same oshi as them.

Why would anyone dislike Fuwamoco? it's so alien to me that some people are actually hostile against them, how can two cute dogs being super wholesome the whole time, 0 drama and literally always in character make you mad?

>>58315102
>uaaaaah loli art bad
Get out

>>58315663
I hope it's just irony...

>>58315612
You are really fucking retarded.
Sports aren't mixed gender because of physical differences making the competition unbalanced. Not because "People don't want to watch men and women together".
Thanks for confirming ruffians are literally brainless.

>>58315521
I genuinely don’t get it either. I think it’s in our nature to just have at least a hint of rebellion? In this case the twins are too perfect to many people, they can’t be this flawless, and it doesn’t fit with their paranoia and self-victimization. Them being this supposedly perfect and popular HAS to be a problem to them somehow, they can’t react differently

>>58314470
BAU BAU
MOTHER FLUFFER

>>58315612
Baused

>>58315663
If they are always in character what's the point?
Where's the intimacy?

>>58314423
And run it into the ground because he can't create, only scam, destroy and suck the dicks of oligarchs.

>>58314872
Gura fans are the antithesis of FWMC fans.

Sapling deflection thread. No fans are worse, at least dogfuckers keep to themselves. How many
>uuuuu where's mommy I'm a fag I need to suck mommy's dick
threads do we need before we string them all up?

>>58315814
>You are really fucking retarded.
Why are you so upset? I thought we were supposed to be the toxic ones?
>Sports aren't mixed gender because of physical differences making the competition unbalanced.
I gave the example of how some woman could still make it in certain instances, but that regardless of that, how many men would still prefer for them not to be there.
>Thanks for confirming ruffians are literally brainless.
I just don’t see it.

Umm, those twins are also 30+ years old.

>>58315909
what intimacy you turbo nigger? they are cute dogs playing videogames, are you retarded?

>>58314470
Fuck off to reddit, you seething ape.

>>58314470
bau bau

>>58316150
The whole fucking point of watching streamers? The parasocialism? Why would I watch ESL Teletubbies play video games?

>>58314470
>when you consider at least one of the girls CLEARLY visits this place
Explain yourself.

>>58316107
>I gave the example of how some woman could still make it in certain instances
No you didn't. No woman can compete at the highest level. Why would they bother training and investing all that effort if they know they will just be eventually replaced by a man who is less talented and doesn't work as hard?

>>58315814
Hey ruffianschizo, you still haven’t responded to my comment >>58315216

>>58314470
you are literally describing every single fucking fanbase (minus the bau baus)

>>58316509
Moco with a moustache posting

>>58316571
Nta but in sports they obviously can because it’s an isolated environment where you can only make competitions for women and men. Obviously "highest level" refers to the relative level of women.
It’s not the same as the army for example where it makes no sense to have different trainings for genders because the work they’ll have to do will be the same. However, sports are all about the performance of the body itself, not a specific task being achieved.

bau bau is an easy bump

>>58314470
Alright I'll do you solid and break this one down since you're retarded. Bau bau is just their new lingo for tl;dr. So this behavior you're complaining about isn't pertinent to only ruffians and the problem seems to be your tunnel vision of the situation.

>>58314470
>they hate him because he told the truth
>he never even shat on fwmc

>>58316571
In the male sports example I gave, it is known that a few women here or there could make it into some male sports; however, their numbers would be low. The reason this wasn’t argued against by the other anon, is because it’s actually true. The reason you’re missing the point though, is that you must ask yourself if it’s okay for men to be against them joining in order to preserve their own enjoyment of the sport. Like to fight for what they prefer, not really about whether or not women can make it. You don’t quite understand the point being made here.

I know it's Nerissa making these anti-posts against FuwaMoco because that bitch is J E A L O U S of our beloved doggos

>>58317144
Nerissa should do a Today's Challenge of not saying anything horny for one day nor mentioning Kiara

>>58317144
She is definitely /here/ and butthurt that they are succeeding while she isn't

>>58312176
undeniably based and white pilled

>>58314470
BAU BAU

>>58311049
the faggot FEARS the unichad

>>58312176
Baused, sapcucks btfo

Sisters really hate women who aren't antagonistic towards men

>>58309032
>behavior
>Answering Bau Bau to baits and shitposting
Oh no the horror

>>58311049
>bitter
No not really
>lonely
Yes
>loser
Why the insult? I don’t get your animosity towards these people

idk who still keep being triggered by them lol they just do what jp vtubers do. also they are still very western centric and focus on western things. coco was speaking english and treating american stuff much more than fwmc has japanese and yet no jp viewers were complaining about it. she has even been treated as a legendary vtuber among the holo jp fanbase. some en viewers seem really narrow minded and insular.

mentally ill thread for mentally ill posters

>>58314470
tldr BAU BAU

>>58315102
CUNNY CUNNY SWEET AND TASTY
God I fucking hate you hanger ons. I hate your guts. You are trash, don't produce anything of value and are just all around a fucking annoying bunch of niggers who cannot discern between 2D and 3D as if you were born with only one eye.
I'm not even wankin it to lolishit, but if it keeps faggots like you away I will post cunny as if my life depended on it.
Get out, or at least be funny.
Fucking puritans I swear. Will scream "LOLI!" "LOLI" but will defend axe wounds as if it were no ones business.
At least the dogmatic christians couldn't spoil the fun cause they didn't know how to internet Meanwhile you cardboard cutouts are more online than offline, because you can't handle reality

>>58309032
I know one of them personally, and he's a typical neckbeard and 30 years old. Does it apply to all of them?

>>58314470
Not a ruffian but
BAU BAU FAGGOT

>>58311317
>Cocomelon as a vtuber.
Even Nyanners called them that in her moat recent stream, not that she's one to talk...

>>58319411
I can't grow a beard lol.
But I'm approaching 30. Not a virgin though.
IMHO FWMC is for tired salarymen who were disappointed by 3D women or just don't care enough anymore to put in the effort into a r
relationship. There are also some zoomers.

>>58314470
BAU BAU

>>58314470
BAU BAU

>>58314470
>Every single criticism that's thrown their way is met with Ruffians Bau Bauing, like manchildren covering their ears shouting BAU BAU BAU I CAN'T HEAR YOU BAU BAU BAU.
They are just confirming they are manchildren...

>>58319782
BAU BAU

>>58319568
Nyanners probably feels violated right down to her core by FWMC, who have stuck to their core tenets instead of fleeing from them like a grifter terrified of her new fans putting a magnifying glass to her past.
The dogs are the icon of what Nyanners could have been if she hadn't flaked out (or faked out, depending which is really "her").

>>58319838
See

>>58319854
nyanners also had all the tools to become the actual first vtuber, it is surprising she doesn't seethe even more

>>58309032
>>58314470
Are you legit losing your mind because people say bau bau? Holy fuck
What criticism are you talking about faggot, critique the girls rn and let's see if it's valid

>>58319858
is okie i know you just widdle enviz of me ;) i get wacch my happy fun Fuwa-nee and Moco-chan evwyday!!!! they make day so happi and fun and i feew fwee to not be misaable shad wife paason no moa :3

>>58320193
How old are you, if you don't mind me asking?

>>58309032
Classic nijinigger move. When they can't dox or attack the vtuber they attack the fan.

>>58309101
the old hag was right after all...

>>58320239
28 lol

>>58314470
Stay mad, manchild. Bau bau you motherfucker

>>58314470
B A U
A
U

>>58314872
This is the 7th lie you pulled out of ur ass in this thread nigger

>>58319782
>>58315216

>>58320527
The average ruffian, minus the muscles

>>58314470
BAU BAU

seems like replying bau bau to baits mindbreak these retards
might do this from now ine

>>58315663
Jealously of course. Take orc schizo for example, she became kiwawa anti for a whole year just because kiwawa get accepted and she didn't. Another example is nijiEN, those are infamous for blaming everything on holo, begging for collab, using bots to spam in holo generals and making anti threads daily

>>58319782
ogey

>>58314470
So you're mad they don't engage with your baiting. Tough break. Maybe try the novelites instead.

>>58320193
>>58320318
based
also the people here who doesn't get the appeal of fwmc are the same kind who said shiorin's voice didn't match her design cause they're too zoomer to had seen an emo girl before
fwmc reminds me of when i was starting to watching and liking otaku culture; that's all
need to sleep
bau bau

>>58320110
Interesting, any time you ask for an actual critique he can’t provide any.
He can’t obviously, because he’s disingenuous and talking out of his ass.

>>58314470
*cums inside your mom*
Also gtfo and go back to your subhuman discord group

>>58317144
She reeks of pick me larp

>>58319617
Just say failed millennials

>>58309032
Vtuber fans enjoying escapism? Wow you've figured it out, fucking genius aren't you?

It makes me sad to think about but I wouldn't be surprised if some of their EN senpai make fun of Fuwamoco behind the scenes because they are jealous and it's not the kind of content they would ever want to do. Like I saw that clip of Ame calling them Blues Clues.

And then you see that their only EN senpai who have collabed with them is Kiara and Mumei and neither did it one on two.

I feel like if anything pushes them to JP it will be loneliness outside of their gen. I think behind the scenes they've said that Calli and Irys help them a lot, so maybe there is something to build there.

I just want to seem them succeed and be happy.

>>58309032
Hey faggot I'm only 28.

>>58319854
How the fuck could Nyanners have become early FWMC? Whether she pretends she was never an underage /b/tard or not she was never gonna be seiso.

>>58314470
Too long, BAU BAU

>>58314470

>>58309262
I hope all of RLM dies eventually.

>>58321854
FWMC were also posting on /b/ - eroge discussion, and look where they ended up

>>58312561
>unicorns are young
Kek, are you retarded? Do you think the ultra conservatives that doesn't accept women unless they are still virgin and has barely any contact with men are the young demographic, instead of the ojisans?

>>58322605
Sorry, Rich unlocked immortality.

>>58322725
These days? Yeah. They'll be guys between 17-24 who've never had much luck with women, had the disney fantasy of romance shattered through life experience and retreated further into fantasy. The ojisans just buy hookers or go full indian and treat women as holes asking for bobs and vagene all day.

>>58322725
>they are ultra conservatives
Unicorns don’t fall under a political side. People even say they’re hardcore feminists who hate males. All manner of excuses really, when you can just debate them in this thread rather than labeling them for demonization.

>>58315684
>>58318825
Actual pedos

>>58315128
Kek

>>58314872
Things that never happened.

Also Gura has brought them up 2 times and it makes me happy

>>58323722

>>58320193
there is something in this picture calling for me

>>58309032
>"A is the worst fanbase!"
>"No, B is the worst!"
>"C is obviously the worst!"
This fucking board every single time.

>>58324283
I predict this one is calling you too.

>>58309032
The brony effect.

>>58323060
>disney fantasy of romance
Anon, disney movies since 2010~ are about women being independent and not needing no men. You are thinking about the disney movies when the uncles were children, those were the ones where the virgin young women would fall madly in love with the charming prince.

>>58323359
>unicorns
>feminists
Anon, they are characterized by their anti behavior of considering women who interacts with men as whores and worthless trash. You have to live in bizarro world to think this is feminism.
And about hating males, they obviously don't hate themselves, nor they hate each other. so there is no generalized hatred towards males, only towards males who exists near the women they like.

>>58309262
Escapism is not the answer, after a rough day at work you should look forward to an evening of nothing but pure dread, let the walls close in around you.

>>58321675
Yeah I feel like the twin dynamic might intimidate collab partners. Hopefully they can find someone on the EN side to get close with

>>58324427
yes, absolutely

>>58314872
>t. seething chumfaggot

>>58324424
Shitting on the hololive girls doesn't work, so these seething 2views are aiming at the fanbase for not wanting to watch them suck fleshtuber cock on stream.

>>58311230
Based list. For once a leftist's theory of mind for normal people is correct.

>>58314470
BAU BAU NIGGER

>>58314470
>tldr
anon is mad that replying to a bau bau is almost always going to look like seething so his bait is getting less effective.

>>58312709
Gura is a whore.
>where are all the prostitutes

>>58314470
Your crucial mistake was thinking anyone in this board, and especially in the holo fandom, will ever read anyone's honest criticism as anything but bait. I'm guessing you should be finally catching on after all these responses.

>>58325538
bau bau

>>58312176
Lol. We're adding this to the othwr stuff like

"You have female friends, right?"

"Improve yourself"

"Understood?"

Salt mines gon keep mining.

>>58309032
>Aren't ruffians just 30+ year old deflated working adult men wanting an escape?
Literally me.

>>58314470
This sounds like what OP was getting at, but it's more of a vent than a criticism.
Fans don't care about the opinions of non-fans. Non-fans are unlikely to understand the positions of fans, will project something inflammatory, and then get mad when their inflammatory "discussion" is met with BAUBAU.
The reasons you dislike FWMC may be very reasons ruffians like them.
A ruffian will see Mococo acting like a retarded 8-year-old and find it endearing.
You might see Mococo acting like a retarded 8-year-old and find it repulsive.
This dichotomy is why your "criticisms" of FWMC are met with BAUBAU.
Ruffians see no reason to "debate" their oshis' "flaws" when they're already happy with the status quo.
Ruffians see no need to "discuss" their oshis with people who want their oshis to change.

>>58310821

We all know how white people "enjoy" time with their dogs

>>58315102
ToT

>>58327925
>white people
Women aren't people.

>>58315439
Timestamp of what? I'm talking about ruffians not about fuwamoco, retard. On every gura anti thread there's some ruffian talking about how he abandoned Gura for Fuwamoco.

>>58315521
Can you not read, you fucking dumbass? We are not angry with Fuwamoco, we are angry with Ruffians shitting on everyone on every thread.

I WANT TO FUCK THE DOGSS AAAA

>>58322725
Unicorns are not "ultra conservative", we are not in Afghanistan. Women talking to men or having male friends has not been taboo on the western world for centuries. If you went to the most hick town on the bible belt and you began calling women that talk to men whores they would think you are crazy.

They are sexually frustrated and jealous. As you get older your T levels go down and so does your sexual frustration.

>>58324480
Are you autistic? He was using Disney as a byword for "unrealistic fantasy ". Not taking about the actual movies, and they don't really talk about sex or virginity on Disney movies, btw. Not even in the new ones.

>>58325538
There is no such thing as honest criticism when people "criticize" Fuwamoco because most of the time it's just "I personally don't like this or get its appeal and that's bad because I don't get it". Just because you're complaining about something doesn't mean that your complaint is a criticism or that it should be taken seriously just because you have strong feelings about it. How many actual "critiques" on this board have you seen that offer some kind of solution that could reasonably be implemented?
>>58328367
>schizo chumbud shits on Gura
>but the chumbud is a ruffian now so this is the fault of ruffians
Bizarre post anon, especially considering those threads have way more "chumbuds" claiming Bijou as their new oshi than Fuwamoco for obvious reasons.

>>58314470
BAU BAU