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>>58301246TT are glorified paid shills. Of course they will never accomplish anything notable besides having their niche podcast.
>>58301298because womanAlso holy shit why are you so fucking slow you dumb fuck OPkill yourself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45ZfAdZuaok
>>58301534is Mumei this hot?
its supposed to be rion gold, but eh.
>randon in 3 minutesLet go watch him and support him
Zoomer + fps should be an automatic discard
>Raden likes to smoke>Smokes WinstonCould she have at least chosen a better brand?
This thread is going to be trash
>>58301534Holy shit thread incoming
>>58301174she doesn't really enjoy streaming, she made that pretty clear early on
>>58301534>>58301545#coom4moom
CCV predictions for the next batch of ReGLOSS streams?
>>58301381
>>58301246Who the fuck is TT?
>>58301581I don't know how JPkeks insist on Laplus staying when she's showing a tendencies to be Mori 2.0, worst is that Mori is more subtle and less upfront on referencing her hater, but Laplus doing it the Miguel ways of confronting them. It's stupid, I don't want her to pull her gen down to her level since KoyoKoyo is a genuinely hardworking woman.
>>58301534All the brothers want to do is coom 4 moom all day
>not king opCOWARDlive sisters?
>>5830162245k
>>58301619So basically she got permission from management to go to Twitch to hide that she doesn't really like streaming and make up an excuse why she doesn't like her numbers in YT?
>>58301657DIY.
are there creators like this in EN
>>58301644trash taste
>>58301644
If you comment in her recent stream, she will probably reply to you
>>58301657kingwho? it's rion gold
>>58301653>koyorido you actually watch the stream? be honest anon
>>58301657It'd be Rion lewds if anything. The winning stream wasn't on Tokyo Ghoul's channel.
>>58301689forgot link, fuckhttps://www.youtube.com/@YUUSHA04JP/videos
>>58301622Raden 40k
>>58301246she still friends with connor and the rest of TT they show up at all of notMori shows backstage, but im pretty sure she's smart enough to know that the holo fanbase would dog pile her if she did anything with then on Mori.
>>58301713
>>58301653>Mori 2.0Retarded comparison. Mori has done a lot of stupid things but she NEVER told her audience that all she cared about was their money.
>>58301725I did, and what you gonna do about it? Defend Lap-sama more?
I come back from playing Starfield for 3 hours and see La+ is having a mental meltdown again. What the fuck is wrong with this girl
>>58301644I hate Advent. Go back.
>>58301713no way she that fucking dumbis she really replying all hate comment?
>>58301713Holy retardGOD
>>58301644Tony Todd
>>58301713LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
More Fauna Starfield
>>58301713kek what a retard
>>58301713LETS GOOOO MENHERA ARC
>>58301713Jesus
>>58301767Jezas That's even worst than Mori, how the fuck did she became like this?
>>58301713WOO BOY NIPS DRAMAFAGS EATING GOOD!!! SHUT IT DOWN MANE-SAN!
>>58301746doesnt YUUSHA have an EN channel?
>>58301713she's so easy..lapschizo, i admit defeat
>>58301713This is tricky to defend...
>>58301805I thought she put a frame up, I need to send my snail super sticker
>>58301713pfftttttttttttttttttttt
>>58301713STOP DOING THIS SHIT YOU DUMB FUCKING BITCH
>>58301713lmao
all holo zoomers need to have dedicated hag holo
>>58301713Honorary NijiJP
La+ owning ze haters arc let's go!Her faults for spending time with 5ch schizos.
>>58301669her numbers in YT shorts is pretty fine, probably only behind sencho and a few others in hololive proper. Not all her shorts gets views, but that's the nature of shorts algo.>1.8M in 3monthshttps://youtube.com/shorts/n046RysxW_I?si=65qZMfZmQx9L0fgo>1.2M in 1.5 monthshttps://youtube.com/shorts/6xhyrlya_rk?si=34k-7sy5iuN1se66>1.1M in 2 monthshttps://youtube.com/shorts/6xhyrlya_rk?si=2wpn4auJmD1USTzKas a holo numberfag, i can get behind the shorts strategy. i pity plusmates for getting the short end of the stick however.
>HOLOLIVE BOARD>HOLOLIVE THREAD
>>58301713This is the difference between her and Goobs. Gura would never be dumb enough to do this
>>58301767>Her fanbase unironically call her Money Morinice try deadcuck
>>58301713And it didn't even take that long to prove my post... godddddd why>>58301653
Just so you know, I'm not stopping until Ao is last.
>>58301713>MENHERA ARCMENHERA ARC>MENHERA ARCMENHERA ARC>MENHERA ARCMENHERA ARC>MENHERA ARCMENHERA ARC
>>58301713Time for another management mandated mental health break?
>>58301653JPs call La+ JP Mori because she is disliked over there for roommate stuff similar to how Mori is disliked here, but that dislike isn't carried beyond the scope of of their main fandom (like Mori is generally well received in Japan and La+ is generally well received outside of Japan). That's the entire basis of the the usage.
>>58301758Those niggas are NOT jet setting around the world to go to NotMori's concerts they have better shit to do lmaoI get what you mean but it's better to say they show up to SOME of her shows, not all. Giguk is not flying out to america for a concert
>>58301669You don’t really have to entertain chat during FPS streams and no need to make thumbnails like on YT.
>>58301713She's really going off the deep end.
>>58301713Welp, at least it makes sense given her age unlike Rushia being a hag and acting like a recently graduated teenager.
>>58301713maybe is the newfags here but didnt she do this already?im quite sure she has repleid to bunch of critiques before.
>>58301298It's human nature to focus on the negative. It's very difficult to be someone that tries her best to only focus on the positives and only on her supporters. Take Gura as an example. She has never given the time of day to haters, even when it's from weakbuds sperging out at her. No snarky remark. No scolding. Just nothing at all.The old Mori would probably have light up that Joshua guy sperging out at FWMC on Twitter and made him a martyr. Instead today she just quietly cut ties from him and moved on, which is the better way to do things.
>>58301885Shorts don't make dough though right? I don't know if it's true obviously.Only reason I said that is because I saw a lot of shorts from people making them that it doesn't bring in profit.
>>58301713Holy shit, I missed her stream and last thread, this is how she comes back? Fucking menhera zoomer, what a fucking idiot.
>>58301669>to hide that she doesn't really like streamingDidn't she say that in her debut stream, about her desire to go with the >uploaded videosmeta instead of live streaming?I say she'll fail miserably but she's at least consistent in this
>>58301777She spend literally half the stream defending holo from antis. of course only the slides where she's talking about her future activities are posted itt. prove to me you aren't full of shit threadreaderfag
>>58301713welp time for another hiatus and miss another holox anniv live
まぁ、金
>>58301713Manechan doko? Take her account away from her now.
>>58301974Laplus already spelled it out. She cares about numbers more than money
>>58301713this is why all the loli chuubas you will get from now on will be voiced by hags, they are far superior
>>58301989nta but she shouldn't be giving attention to antis in the first place
>>58301960It's ALWAYS never a good thing to do this, ALWAYS RBI no matter what situation you're in
>>58301713Don't these people have fucking friends that will just tell them to stop digging?This is insane
>>58302031What's the point of numbers if it doesn't bring money then?To feel good?
>>58301974she isnt doing this for money.just to keep content going.
>>58301713Get Aloe'd soon
Is Raden Hololive's first 50k+ streamer?
>>58301979She’s just saying she’s not complaining and want to do short video. Am i missing something
>>58301960Everytime she does this, she goes on a long menhera break (probably stealth suspension)
Overlapped unraided mori>Mogs luxiem top dogs >Mogs your massively promoted anniversary stream>Mogs your JP pandering handcam
>>58302042>young woman>friendsIt's all groomers anon
>>58301974she doesn't care about money, she rather have views and substhat's literally one point of her stream
>>58302064>stealth suspensionthis isn't niji
She need some therapy.
>>58302052I mean people host money losing events all the time just for ego
>>58301911This proves that La+ was never bullied in school. Gura has first hand experience dealing with haters.
>>58301653We LOVE miss Darknessss in this thread DESU~~~~
>>58302064>probably stealth suspensionNice try, nijisis
The power gap between this gen is pretty insane.Although Raden did get a buff from not showig her face that much during debut.
>>58302091But point 3 in her slide is money.
>>58302041unless is something REALLY stupid like what mysta and mmori did.shouldnt be an issue, this is a short answer saying stream isnt everything which is ok and is aware of the curretn situation. which is how she repsonded back then to to some critique
>>58301960It's worse because she spent a whole month without streaming on her channel, comeback with a stream saying she is focusing on fucking TWITCH and then does this
>>58302080Niji EN and Tempus are a failure, why even try?
>>58301965Gura literally address the weakbuds complaining every time stop using that as an example. The whole reason weakbuds keep sperging is because she keeps saying she wants to try and do better which is literally addressing them
La+ seems to be the JP Gura. Tons of talent and potential that gets squandered and never fully harnessed due to the talent's lack of motivation and/or ambition.
>>58302083I don't think it's young women but just women in generalThis is why I trust my oshis because they have each other
>>58302080Mori-chan Kakkoiii
Well i guess /5ch/ chuuba is a mistake.
>>58301713LOL, this is why nijiJP is better
>>58293743> her combination of streams + shorts + video uploads causes her shorts to not get recommendedWhy does this sound like yet another retarded management "advice"?Their stupid fucking statsmen already made a statement that they were planning to focus more on shorts... it just feels like a weird thing to prioritize, especially for Laplus.
do JP pronounce Raden as in Bin Laden?
>>58302080mori slowly recovering?
>>58302052she wants to 世界征服
>>58302140it is worse if fps content is posted to youtube.
>>58302174>deflecting to GuraFuck off
First and last time Cover hires someone from ReAct, Leona will never come home
>>58302174The retarded shit that gets posted in this thread sometimes.
>>58302042Laplus friends were disappointed her Holo clout didn’t transfer to her rm project iirc
>>58301912I assume because she shills a bunch and has talked about money stuff more than other . That's different from coming out and saying "my top 3 concerns are about the numbers, numbers and money"; it's not even the attitude which rubs people the wrong way, it's coming out and admitting to it.
>>58302174>le retard keeps trying to equate la+ to gura
>>58301713GOLDEN GEN
>>58302174Laplus has had nonstop shilling and support from the company for almost two years. Cover abandoned EN for longer than that. They're not similar at all.
>>58302184taso...
Laplus is replying to a bunch of people in the comments lol
My cute wife
>>58302174Retard.
>>58301644the Tobu Tojo line runs from Tokyo to Saitama
>>58301713>HongEunChaeVNijisisters really going all out I see.
>>58302174> Gura> Replying to random Youtube anti commentsroru
>>58302189rumao you wish nijikek
https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1701052943099937160jesas I have never seen an official post this universally panned
>>58302193Uh, she basically said she didn't stream for 1 month to prove to management her point. Management had nothing to do on what she is complaining right now.
>>58302215>FPS contentIt's not only that tho. On her own words>Youtube: VOD plataform>Twitch: Streaming
Hilarious how all the shitposts about holo en comes true for holo jp. >People thought advent would be homo friendly turned out incorrect. Regloss came out and all the girls are homo friendly.>People thought mori would leave hololive for ecelebs meanwhile laplus did much more and extra.
>>58302234Feel free to make a defense if you think it's a bad comparison, though we both know that's not the case.
>>58302267that flute? my dick
>>58302244And afaik management didn't fucking stop her projects out of nowhere or prohibited her from uploading covers that were pretty much done.
>>58302064Imagine getting mogged by 2023 Mori. NijiCN truly is dead besides events (and even those don't really guarantee good numbers)
>>58302193people has dedicated shorts channel, it's true to some extent.the real reason is she doesn't like streaming on YouTube if at all
>>58302112God even when I wrote that post how I wish Lap-sama were different, she's cute af especially on that Kirby stream but why did she became like whoever she's now...
>>58301974Yeah but Holo talents make money by becoming popular and being able to get sponsor deals and merch sales. Stream revenue is obviously a large part of their revenue, but you can reduce SC/member revenue and they would still be making good money.
>>58302174GURA GURA GURA 09/11? IT MUST HAVE BEEN GURAAAA A GURAAA EEVERYTHING IS GURA
>>58302052She probably thinks her gachikois will keep being her members and buying her merch and she will keep getting paid by cover for the official events, while doubledipping on twitch subs money
Going through laplus stream but she is still gonna do karaoke and mostly collabs on youtube, just moving zatsu and mc to twitch. Valo is already on twitch and that's majority of her content. Is everyone overreacting again?
>>58302196JP transcribes his name as Bin Raadin so nope
>>58302297Holy FUCK they're shitting on you Riku
>>58302297Hlzntl?
>>58302263I'm sending cover a fax.Someone needs to stop her
>>58302310>make a defensehow about all the replies you didn't reply to in the last thread?
>>58301713Menhera kino
>>58302279>check holoan profile>follows 3dpd and nijisevery fucking time
>>58302310The only thing they have in common is that they don't stream but Gura isn't a fucking retard. Gura is like Ayame, there is no one in EN you can compare to La+, not even Mori's worst version
>>58302189This is what NijiJP do everyday nijikeks...
La+ being a numberfag is fucking hilarious because bitch had everything on a silver platter and chose to throw it all away to become a budget Towa and spam FPS shit despite every piece of data showing how much of a debuff that crap is for modern Hololive.Also, do you remember this shit?https://youtu.be/TsrXfwK9vdc
>>58302304so true sis
Gura’s still pulling 30k views an hour when it’s fucking 2am in Japan and 1pm on the east coast USWhat the hell
>>58301713This brat is in need of some CORRECTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>58301985How did she come to that conclusion? She doesn't even upload that much. Pretty much the only creative videos is her video with Iroha and Towa, other than that they are just>cover>Clips, not even good clips, GTAVCR and Valorant>Short of her playing horse gachaAnd that Towa video is so short. Doesn't require that much effort.
>>58302263She replies to both her gachis and closeted antis kek, menhera GFE btw.
>>58301896truthkill all nijisisters
>>58302410jesas, don't post gore here
>>58302296she..... a lost case such a shame for that great design
>>58302392that at least had beggarsI can't find a single positive response to this one
>>58302198she got funnel from gura and other streamss ending.>>58302193there is some truth on it.Content is content they can get money trough a lot of reveneus so it isnt that much of a worry for holos. But trying to balance streaming and shorts is hard as we see with people that do well with shorts have terrible CCV and vice versa.laplus is good with short content rather than streams so i undertsand the focus but the worry is still there for it making other metrics suffering. i say let her try it would be nice to see how she does.
>>58302410Raden, Hajime and Kanade will carry this new branch
>>58302022I think her Mane-chan had enough of La+ menhera antics and just let her do whatever she wants
>>58302278What does replying to random Youtube anti comments have to do with my comparison? Obviously you're not a fucking retard who thinks that I'm saying that La+ would act 100% like Gura in all cases, right? You're not a dumbass like that, surely. If you disagree that Gura and/or La+ both suffer from lack of motivation and/or ambition then feel free to refute that point, anon, since that's what the comparison was wholly based around.
>>58302416sure sure, and i'm yagoo
>>58302419https://youtu.be/2-OXNwh_Wm0
>>58302297here's a good ones kek
>>58302297You could buy 2 Holo shirts from Amazon for the same price as one Niji shirt iirc
>>58302504Old Ame...
>>58302128>rather have views and subsand what's point 1 and 2? she had money at the lowest priority in her slide anon.
>>58301713That Comment was made by a Nijisanji fan by the way. More reason why our hatred for nijizhangji is completely justified.
>>58302504doesn't every ame "date" stream ends in breakup?she even played that brake-up game on valentine's day
>>58302516KEK
>>58302450that Towa video is just taken from her 3D live and reuploaded for youtube kids
>>58302450>76kgrim
>>58302406>in the last threadI wasn't in the last thread. I highly doubt the person in the last thread could make succinct remarks and not fall for terrible deflections that do not address the lack of motivation and/or ambition which is shared by both Gura and La+.
YOUD THINK COVER WOULD FUCKING REALIZE TO STOP HIRING ZOOMERS. HAGS = WORK ETHIC AND NO DRAMA, SIMPLE AS
>>58302297Man. Why do this? Pay an small time artist for some art, any art, and you still have a monster margin on fucking t-shirts. Get some good design art and pay a few extra bucks for a medium quality hoodie and you get something like Ina's Wah sweater which sold like crazy. Those things are like 7 bucks in bulk
>>58302419i mean you can just look at those compilation images comparing holox 3d debuts and 3d anniv lives to see how she's becoming the least watched.
Numbers
>>58302410Go Hajime!
>>58302572That makes it even worse then.
>>58301713BASED BEYOND BELIEF
>>58302363most people here just want to get angry at something, they don't even watch the stream or understand anything she said. They only read what's posted in the thread by schizos and assumes the worst so they can whine on an anonymous imageboard.
Opsec status: a bunch of nijisisters trashing her comments and her gachis doesn't help much either.
>>58301713man, haachama was the smartest and mature youngest hire hololive ever had. laplus' behavior is that of a spoiled brat
>>58301713another mental break soon
>>58302298the issue is she likes doing shorts but streaming+shorts never pan results and hurt each others. That is why she is trying to do this change.
Don't care. La+ has taken so many loads of mine that I want her around no matter what.
Listen, La+ is not wrong, but the problem is on how she executes it. Doesn't help that she keeps on going into long droughts of not streaming and such. Which makes her look like someone who just doesn't care.
is she deleting comments?
>>58302546>antis are shitting on her when she makes mistakesNo fucking shit retard.This is why you never do this shit.
>>58302589Aren't Bae and Biboo zoomers? They generally have the better work ethnic in HoloEN with only Kiara and Mori being on the opposite aged end. Se4ems like you can't predict the results based on age.
>>58302666>gachisthere's still any surviving?
>>58301960She anonymously defended herself on 5ch. Everyone agreed it was cute. This isn't.
9/12 never forget
>>58301582my cute retarded girlfriend.
>505 commentsIt's already a warzone, all of 5ch coming out
>>58302419I agree with fps debuffs, but what you posted was also part of the highest 3D debut peak from hololive anon. substantially more than 3D debuts of more traditional holos that does buff streams instead
>>58302680>but streaming+shorts never pan results and hurt each others.Is there actual evidence for this?
https://twitter.com/azure_0608_sub/status/1701229854669082988In honor of a Moom thread
The antis comments are literally from nijifags if you check their username lol
>>58302419>become a budget TowaNah, she's speedrunning to be next Matuli, Towa is good in FPS and she does box content in addition to FPS
>>58302778oh no no no run hololive ch ruuuuunnnn
>>58302746Some still there, i lurked a bit on her fanbase, she have fair share of females and fpsfags.
>>58302497I'm unironically gonna call you Lapcucks, like a retard you are Gura are more similar to Ayame, both are lazy to stream even once. Laplus are literally a Mori 2.0 without UMG or singer connection. Even Mori wasn't this upfront confronting retards, but both still do retarded things
>>58301885>1.8M in 3months>1.2M in 1.5 months>1.1M in 2 monthsIt is cute that you think that having 3 or 4 or 10 shorts over 1M in a 3 months time span is big but that's only because you didn't do the research to figure out what are the expect numbers for shorts.Here is a vtuber case, only the FOURTH indonesian vtuber to hit 1M subs>and currently the SECOND highest subscribed indonesian vtuber behind only Kobohttps://www.youtube.com/@akeminekomachi/shortsThis person had about 100k subs in December 2022(!) and hacker her (his? her? I don't care) way into 1M subs in six months on the power of shorts alone.Granted, her channel has more duds than hits but she went ALL IN into shorts and that's the bulk of that youtube channel.Right now there are 56 shorts over 1M views in that channel and the secret clearly is to SPAM THE FUCK OUT OF THAT TYPE OF CONTENT until you make it bigm and with one caveat>there is no guaranteeMuch like this one made it big, there are HUNDREDS of retards doing the exact same thing to 10k views a pop.Hololive right now has one guarantee set in stone>if you play your cards right either you are going to incline yourself into the big leagues or, at very least, you'll surf the wake created by your senpai and be made for lifeThe shorts lottery is something completely different>you might hit big or die tryingÃkemi made it big 1M subs in six months. 999 other unnamed retards died trying and they had nothing to lose, they didn't get the golden ticket to Hololive in the first place.
>>58302785have you seen Rin CCV?or any short uplaoder ccv
>>58302297AAAAAAIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEkwab
>>58302363Coming out and saying your top 3 priorities are views, subs, and Money is a bit much. Even if a lot of creators think like this straight up saying to your fanbase their enjoyment of the content isn't important to you after they have supported you for 2 years is just asking for people to get mad at you.
>>58301785>unironically being mad that someone doesn't know TTYOU go back faggot
>>58302694seems soi didn't see the comment in the top this thread after scroll for a while
>>58302814>femaleschildless hags?
Will she beat Fauna?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LdWsR7T_7M
>>58301644TableTop.
>>58302789ah I remember aloe 3 years agosame shit
>>58300877>newfags have now memoryholed coco's mistreatment and unironically think she quit her $100000+ per month superchat position to stream on her 3view account for more moneynow that's grim
>>58302859Some lesbians and some normal FPS fangirls type.
>>58302497La+ is pretty ambitious anon.She just doesn't want to be another holo girl that streams and panders to a relatively niche group of people
>>58302789>chuba does thing people don't like>actual fanbase just wants to move on>antis smell blood start attackingAnd here is where the difference between being smart or retarded beginsIf you're smart you maybe apologize without engaging with anybody and move on if you're dumb you argue back and dig yourself a deeper hole
ENsharts' opinions are not valid
>>58302778A lot of those are her yesmen btw. I wanted to scroll down to the hater shit she replied to but got bored.
>>58302843KEKHow can sisters recover from this
>>58302923Go back frog
>>58302787is he talking about a cockroach
>>58302923go back to /jp/
>>58302826>Mori wasn't this upfront confronting retardsShe was and always has been it's just she does it on RM streams
>>58302787Damn black guys.It's cockroaches
>>58302516I don't know why t-shirt designers do that rectangle design - it always looks like they just slapped the design on a plain shirt. Even some expensive brands do it. There must be a better way to integrate the graphic onto a plain shirt
>>58301713Almost as impressive as when she said she forgives her antis.
Oh yeah it gonna top over 6th anniversary, can't stop won't stop.
>>58302866no
>>58302785literally fillian and that one spanish convert a schizo used to spam here
>>58302584And Ayame, and Shion, and Aqua (not that much compared to Ayame). Do you think only Gura that share that with Laplus? The dumb shit that all of those above I mention didn't even equate to what Laplus did
>>58302233it's actually a much sillier reasonearly on into HoloEN debuts, Mori was extremely new to streaming culture and got easily overwhelmed by the amount people were SCing to her, wanting to thank everyone which only led to people SCing moreit affected the pacing of streams and happened even during collabs, and people held early EN under extreme scrutiny so she quickly got the marker of an "SC baiter"she also had a more Twitch/Patreon styled membership plan (once again, very much newbie to the way most Holos did stuff) and being the first HoloEN to do a sponsorship stream (for an indie dev) basically reinforced the sentimentbut all that is pretty ancient history by now
>>58302964it's about that somali-american
>>58302297no different from fauna and kroni merch imo.but they all get differnet shit so a slip doesnt hurt.
>>58302956Does that scream capture fear or arousal?
>>58302902>mistreatmentBullshit rrat.I already addressed the part of her being resentful and think that management could do better, and they probably could indeed have done better.
>>58302782I mean yeah that was before she went full menhera and still had some potential. When she also used to shit out 10M+ songs. Look at her now.And it's sad because she's still the leader of HoloX and used front and center in everything they do. Like Hologras or that manga series.
so what's hlg's reactioni remember that place loved lap
>>58302963It is the easiest to print since literally every printing facility have rectangle mound
>>58303003That's the opposite of what anon is asking, which is>is there evidence that continuing with live stream activities hurt your shorts numbersThe two examples you are giving are from people that hit big with shorts but have low or zero live stream audience
Haachama can dunk on her haters and get away with it. But most Holos aren't Haachama. They aren't even in the same universe. It's understandable on some level. Still stupid though
>>58303028azure sensei is a man
>>58301713dude... someone call Mio and Fubuki...
>>58302962Yeah that's why it's subtle, not in her public account (read: holo account) unlike how Laplus did.
>>58302174Takes like this are why people keep redirecting retards on catalog to #
>>58302297that shirt merch is kinda bad, but it turns into shit and insulting when you check the price
>>58302598
>>58303041>Bullshit rrat.oh god you're serious
>>58302497you're a bigger retard because nothing lap+ did compares to gura in any way shape or form
Why do Japanese fans call Mumei 'hime'?Pretty sure even mamas like Wada call her that.
>>58302297TOP FUCKING KEK
>>58303026price is different
>>58301713But why?
Qrd on Laplus situation? Why does she took “own Le hater” seriously?
>>58302198Mori not playing JRPG #69 or doing 8hr of SC reading*with some of her upcoming plans like returning to FF16 or wrapping up Pizza Tower and Katana Zero, you will see return to the floor
>>58303041should i kek at this? i think i willKEK
>>58303105idk but i remember a while back 5ch called her the princess of 4chan
>>58302598Gotta keep those profit margins up
>>58302962>it's just she does it on RM streamsyeah so MORI wasn't this upfront about it
>>583031545ch chuuba mentality.
>>58303154She's been a menherra from day 1 and it hasn't gotten any better.
>>58302956>>58302964He is talking about seeing his first cockroach since moving away from home, but Google Translate's literal translation is funnier.
>>58303105maybe because you just wanna treat her like a princess?>im a big girl btw>im mature>i dont need 2 managers to feed me
Mumei won.
>>58303066> with shorts but have low or zero live stream audienceAnd why do you think that is?short and live audience are tood different and unless the youtube algo changes it is not psosible to do both in one channel.
>>58302736>Aren't Bae and Biboo zoomers"Asian zoomers" Big difference
>>58302935Yeah, it's not just all antis like some were saying. This one is from a 1 year, 8 months member:>I've been supporting Lapu-sama not for the shorts or the number of views, but for the delivery since her debut, so I feel that if she doesn't deliver, there's no point in menshi-nana or anything else.It's a shame, because she was definitely working hard during the V-most period and so on.If that's the way you've been doing it before with Hololive, then please deliver it, even if it's just once a week.If it's the way you do it, like those pop-up streamers using the name of your office, I'd feel better supporting the other members.I like the chit-chat delivery of Lap-sama, even though there have been many collaborations outside the box.I can't say anything more.
So do short viewers even buy merch? La+ said she cared more about popularity than money, but i haven't seen any YT short e-celeb broke through main stream (Or they're just outside of my radar)
I find it funny that Nijisanji has an ongoing merch drama on Twitter and literally no one in this thread cares or gives a shit. No wonder sisters are mad. They just came here to attention seek. What a sad existence they must lead.
>>58303154she's a 5ch resident and got found out in the thread. im not sure if it was the same timeline when Kanatan called out the shithole for that.
>>58302604I love it, have been listening to it all day
>>58303274marine is focusing on shorts, so it must be a good idea.
>>58302428>gura pulling only 30kgrim
>>58302837What the fuck kind of revisionism is this? Rin incline because of her shorts, she reclined because she spammed Pikmin 4 and other goyslop game for no reason. She's one of the reason that Shorts help increasing people to watch the stream.
>>58302519You could buy custom T-shirt with whatever picture you want for this price
I've been scrolling through the Lap vod comments by newest and most comments are either members supporting her, some greys saying "I'm not sure about the idea but if management is okay with it why not", or antis shitting on her. Most of those have a lot of replies which is where most of the comment number comes from
The most negative place about laplus issue isn't from the nips btw, it's from the bugs mostly taiwanese.
>>58303305marine is popular before the shorts
>>58303051don't even have to look so far, 5 months later where all of holox did their anniversary lives, she had the lowest ccv of all the holox lives. i don't have the image where it compared ccv and scs of those streams, but laplus got 82k, and the next lowest was koyori at 95k.
>>58303073and?
>>58302193If anything this sounds like a cope from Laplus to justify her exodus to Twitch. She's arrogant enough to think that the reason why she still has fans is because of her content, not because of her status as a Holo's member.
>>58302428is a good cover.
>>58303272>commentit did seem like la+ was justifying her absence in youtube.
>>58302778hate comments also count as engagement. her shorts will reach more people. laplus really smart
>>58303314for the cover VOD, retard
Reminder that Zeta's real CCV will be 3x the number displayed on Youtube. Take that into consideration before you start comparing her Starfield numbers to Fauna's.
>>58302174What talent exactly?I hear retards say this but she can;t sing cant dance cant produce isnt charismatic
>>58302428europoors are getting home from work
>>58303154Come home lapchan.
>>58303419>1 hour pollStop acting like a retard.
>>58303154Anti aside, there's some gachis in the comments criticizing La+'s low, inconsistent updates and some wish her integrate into holobox but she couldn't or failed to.
>>58302736Biboo actually older than Nerissa
>>58301713Comment is deleted now, probably manager
>>58303438she can dancethe rest i dunno. she had her moments. especially early on when holox wasn't as fractured.
>>58303342so the usual.Is gonna be an interesting experiment.So hope she does somegood shorts again.
>>58303438which one are you talking about?either way, making people like you constantly seethe is also a talent
>>58302297>$40 shirts + shippingif what mysta said is true about the 2% then that's $0.02 per shirt sold going to the talents. That's scummy
>>58302829>heranonchama.....Anyway you're not wrong, shorts algo is a complete lottery. There are well produced shorts that gets shitty views, while garbage shorts gets hundreds of millions. But even so, it's still an approach that should be explored since YouTube is still incentivized to push the shorts platform to kneecap tiktok even though they are bleeding resources from all this. Marine showed she could grow her subs 4x faster than any other established holos by abusing shorts, so the path is there.If Cover learns how to properly abuse them too for other holo channel sub growth then its more than a worthwhile venture, especially when you're just risking a single holo channel that doesn't even enjoy streaming to begin with
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *Here it goes>65,412: Rion (Nijisanji)>51,429: Raden (Hololive)>45,909: Pekora (Hololive)>37,393: Gura (Hololive)>36,460: Kanata (Hololive)>35,729: Hajime (Hololive)>26,324: Botan (Hololive)>24,768: Okayu (Hololive)>20,793: Lauren (Nijisanji)>20,528: Kanade (Hololive)>18,676: Korone (Hololive)>18,429: Koyori (Hololive)>17,718: Ririka (Hololive)>17,345: Mumei (Hololive)>16,438: Met (VSPO)>15,748: Ao (Hololive)>14,784: Mio (Hololive)>13,926: Fubuki (Hololive)>13,784: Watame (Hololive)>13,373: Laplus (Hololive)>13,266: AZKi (Hololive)>12,203: Ririka (Hololive)>11,640: Ryushen (Nijisanji)>11,057: GatchmanV (Indie)Gold for Rion with an all star Niji cast in a day with a good horse race (hefty Z nonetheless) with Raden coming 2k short to get silver and Pekora with a Minecraft stream getting bronze.
>>58303444HOLY BASADO
>>58303521Holobros... we fucking lost
>>58303495who and who?
>>58303305Tiktok and shorts did elevate her popularity a lot, but before that she need to have a hit song first.
I want to hold Mumei's waist and kiss Fauna's thick neck.
> summary: everything here shows that hololive and cover is on a downward trendHOLOKEKS STATUS?
>>58303521Gura kicked out of podium, it's like that sushi stream again
>>58303521Pekora and Pekora 2.0 failed us...
>>58303521totally real humans btw, don'y mind the chatter is lower than even hajime
>>58303521If this is the case, why not just let Mito get gangbanged on a daily basis for these great numbers?
>>58303067haachama made her anti commit the equivalent of vtuber seppukui hope she comes back soon
>>58303051>beforewhich is why I questioned why you even posted that to begin with
>>58303578who you talking to negro?
>>58303350Laplus is extremely popular too. She's the face of the second JP golden gen.
>>58303513thishaving some holos focusing on short content is a good thing given that youtube is pushing for it.
>>58303274short viewers : no, but they will subsclip viewers : maybestream or vod viewers : yesmusic listeners : yes
>>58303578
>>58303172>>58303088proof next thread right?anything to justify her retarded career move
>>58303618it's always a niji and vsbot that gets stupidly high Z
>>58303067mori got away with it once and thought she was invincible until the lean tookover
>>58303666Post is doin numbers, yo
>>58303618>800 chatters a minuteim almost sure that no one that watches niji even has an account
>>58303438but enough about the shark
>>58303513>Marine showed she could grow her subs 4x faster than any other established holos by abusing shorts, so the path is there.She did not and it is even insulting that you think it was merely putting shorts up.She geared up her whole "other" content (other than her live streaming) into her BIG BUDGET WELL PRODUCED song MVs.She is dropping at very least some 50k USD per MV to have content to power her subs growth.Her shorts? Most of them are connected to her MVsHer tiktoks? ALL of them are connected to her MVs. If you think Laplus can post seventeen shitpost shorts and get the same result as Marine you are sorely wrong. Marine is doing something completely else, she's putting her money where her mouth is and funding her high quality MVs and choreographies to kickstart her subs growth.
>>58303521>>58303618So Raden gold?
Biboo please stop using yourself as a collab waiting room. It's too cringe.
Raden overtook Kanade? Wtf is going on with this branch
>>58303666>SC copeRORU RUMAO
>>58303272didnt read but this made me feel like that pic of the teamate holding a photo of old ame
>>58303709wrong thread faggot
>>58303105I have no idea but my guess would be it's a play on Hi-mei. Like "Oh hi"mei
>>58303713I love my drinkin', smokin' hagwife.
>>58303419>1 hourretarded newfag
gura kyoufuu all back 15k views (fansubbed)
>>58303683please understand she was going through a rough breakup at the time
>>58303700Youtube starts throttling chat at around 800/min. You need 100k+ viewers to make it go higher than that and even then, it won't get much higher than 1200.
>>58303274short viewers actually subs (because that's one of the few ways you can control your feed in a platform of just swiping up)And Cover has subs as KPI, so she earns her money via bonuses instead.
>>58303521rion gangbanged by top nijis can only bring 53k......grimbros........
>>58303274A media company in Japan that partnered with Hikakin goes red because of chasing short view, the payout isn't viable compared to normal video view. Some anon posted the article here.
Kiara just said her recent shorts and music are not doing well because her streams are messing up the algorithm as the "latest content" released from her channel are her streams instead of her music and is considering changing her german sub channel to a streaming only channel and making her current channel only focused on music, shorts and clips/highlight videos.
Lap ffs just don't respond
>>58303713She's very related to middle age oji-san and oba-san.
>>58303500now she is getting spanked by lui
>>58303618Just like holosubs :v)
>>58303521BELO JOGO
>>58303713Raden is Hololive's answer to Salome. A superstar in the making.
>>58303781No it doesn't.
Holokksu as a unit cannot survive Lapu's inevitable graduation. They can't perform their original unit songs and their theme is dead. Unless they pivot to Lui murdering Lapu and taking over as the true leader I guess.
>Twitch about 650um...where are the homobeggars and sister that say they will support the orc
>>58303667the proof is common knowledge newkek. the suspension, banned from the main channel and all events, not allowed to have mods until more than 6 months after the spam began, collab bans, no sponsorships, the mod fuckup which they didn't fix which was pretty much the final straw. i'm probably forgetting a lot but it's been 3 years.
>>58303823that sounds like a terrible idea
>>58303713Raden is unironically great if you can get past a couple of filters.
>>58303707Marine literally talked about her shorts performing well when chat congratulates her subs milestone retard.Fucking WATCH STREAMS
Think about all the amazing girls out there who could have been Laplus instead of herWho would have made use of the opportunity and been a really fun and great leader of holoX
>>58303853Lmao, how can you retards be at his for so long and still not see the warning flags? Or maybe this is your first debut and you are just inexperienced. In that case save this post for the future and learn from it
>>58303700Isn't 800/minute the soft cap for YT livechat
>>58301713she alone generated yabs more than gen 5, 6 combined LMAO
>>58303708Yes, so post her lewds. And if there isn't enough you can post Flare and Mumei lewds as well.
>>58303713Raden has the experience in life that most nips want to relate with if she brings good topics to her zatsu I can see her becoming a powerhouse
>>58303823i don't even want to imagine the grim results of this
>>58303521*yawn*so ez
>>58303823This is a shitpost but making a subchannel would probably be a better idea for Laplus than just moving to twitchBut it's clear it's just an excuse
Wtf did this nigga do
>>58303901I don't support traitors
>>58303901Being a homo is really better than just being an indie
Youtube defaulting channels to show videos first instead of allowing the stupid Live tab to be the default is on of the many, many ways they fuck over streamers. I am still baffled why they didn't make that customizable
Raden will always stream at 11pm JST which is Salami's usual slot. They're going for the kill bros...
>>58303939I don't see any member of Advent hitting 50k on her second stream.
>>58303989he got culled? dead sub (well most of them are)?
>>58303949no elfs
>>58303989That's just the regular Subs cull youtube does to everyone.
>>58303904so no proof then?like I said anything to justify her career suicide
>>58303618>>58303521nice bots nijikeks
Cunny unironically needs correction
>>58303713The cull mindbroke the algorithm
>>58303521>65,412: Rion (Nijisanji)AH AH AH AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE OWATTA YO
>>58303713hag powah
>>58304013I thought it is customisable but nobody changes it.
>>58303989He draw regloss members on stream so neal got confused and target the wrong channel
>>58303901This guy's whole stich is just him trying to be le unhinge?
>>58303823Look, just because only a few people here like Kiara doesn't mean no one is watching right now.
>>58303521>still counting VSPO for the tallyyou need to unironically recheck your bias
I think Lapuchan should just stop streaming and do weekly ear-licking ASMR.
>>58303707I mean it's not just Marine that are abusing shorts for subscribers anon.The spanish convert, rin from that jewish corpo and that twitch tuber gets shit ton amount of subscribers without having 50k USD MVs.In fact, I think only vtubers that abuses shorts are getting shilled by the YT algo to millions of new potential viewers these past dew years.
>>58303781it is limited to 1000/min right? and i think vrabi only take 'top chat' instead 'live chat'
>>58304023Implying I give a shit about the opinions of someone who's shorter than Biboo.
>>58304079Why is yours not speaking English?
>>58303901>where are the homobeggars and sister that say they will support the orcright therehow may did you think there actually was retard?
>>58304120It seems soft capped at 800. It can go higher but you need like 1M ccv to top 1200 messages/min
>>58303636Just an example of La+ leaning into GFE and her potential before becoming a menhera FPS slut.
>>58304103Finally a good post.
>>58304126she looks like fucking ass
>>58304031??? do you want a link to the suspension announcement or something? what are you doing lmao
>>58303989he's tanking some culls from ririka
>>58303901Well that's all of them or what's left of it, some Vesties still mad about him quitting, called him a retard for lacking foresight.
>>583038233 view speedrun?
>Gura's cover already at 600k after not even one dayIsn't that pretty great actually, especially for a song already done to death by so many other for months
>>58304166And you look like a furry asshole.
>>58304029>everyoneyeah everyone hahah exactly everyone
>>58303989>the few fans with goodwill are beginning to leave stars cause they cant stand all the homo pushing Cover has done laltely
HoloX should just say that their leader has now passed on her duties to one of them.
>>58303700>>58303781picrel for comparison
>>58303521>51,429: Raden (Hololive)>45,909: Pekora (Hololive)>37,393: Gura (Hololive)>36,460: Kanata (Hololive)>35,729: Hajime (Hololive)>26,324: Botan (Hololive)>24,768: Okayu (Hololive)>20,528: Kanade (Hololive)EIGHT streams over 20k simultaneous connections????
>>58304115We already know whats gonna happen at the end. Unless she is a fleshtuber she gonna get stuck like the rest who used in that way.
>>58304050some nijifaggot botted it
>>58304211better than blue horizon with shit mixing
>>58303823These girls are absolute retards and they'll crash, burn, tilt in the mud and sink because they can't understand what makes Hololive different from the whole rest of the entertainment industry,The whole rest of the entertainment industry is ad and sponsor supported. Take Ludwig, MrBeast and the rest of the big names in the western online bueisnes, their whole business model is>get AS MANY EYEBALLS AS POSSIBLE in a single high profile event>sell as many advertisement slots (overt and product placement) as possible for it>use the rest of the year to build hype to the next eventThat makes it so that it doesn't matter if nobody gives a fuck about them in 179 days in a semester, that ONE BIG EVENT is enough to pay their bills as long as they can get as many eyeballs at that moment as possible.Hololive operates in a different model>it doesn't matter if your ceiling is capped at (let's say) 70k, as long as your faithful audience continue supporting you, you have a steady income for lifeThese are chicks with 8k members, 10k members getting a gross revenue on membership alone in the 30k per month meaning they might be taking home 10k per month and the company, another 10k per month on recurring revenue alone, not even mentioning merch and donations.The short summary is>Holo girls don't need 1M tourists to succeed, they need 10k membersKobo is one that might be figuring that exact thing out, by contrast with Kaela. It is good that Laplus is determined to run this experiment because her crashing and burning will provide a valuable lesson to the other girls
>>58304120129k CCV. Only two ticks above 1k and the rest are in the 800-900 range, not counting the final one, which is lower because people were already moving on to the next debut.
>>58303713Retard debuff
>>58304245well, there it goes the 800/min cope
>>58303823Is this what she mean? I search Fillian in incognito mode
>>58304120it makes more sense resource-wise that it's limited to text size than chat amount. you can get higher cap (above 1k+/min) if your viewers are just spamming 草. While having a bunch of paragraphs in your chat pushes the limit down to 600-800
>>58304273oh no no no
>>58304211The power of not oversaturating songs.
>>58304290cute
>>58304251Kanata my beloved
>>58304294 (me)Compared to her result
>>58304285doesnt matter sisterwe know rion was botted because she had only 5k unique chatters
>>58303521Wasn't Rion the one who called livers "Money-making tools"
>>58304211won't beat miko's cover, so who cares?
>>58304146>>58303942>>58303781>>58304245>>58304285800/minThanks for the info anon
>>58303521Niji may have won #1 today, but the number of 20k+ Holo streams today is a much better look than that 65k one by Niji.
>>58304211It's good. Helps that she performed it well. It's amazing what having no autotune does.
>>58304251you made me check, though literally ruru
>>58304290She speaks 3 languages, you're the retard anon
If vtubers want better numbers they should all turn themselves into lolis
>>58304415HOLY COPE
>>58304418AIEEEEEEE THE TWIN TOWERS!!
>>58304257I'm looking forward to the result of her strategy, i'd say it's a success if she gets at least stable 50k subs growth monthly from this approach.
>>58304423so does kiara
>>58304418huh, I though niji used to dominate the cumulative numbers
>>58304438stay dead
>>58304390Yes and Bill Gates is a failure because he has less in his bank account than Elon Musk, right?
>>58304220yes YouTube is constantly removing what they consider "dead subs" from older channels, It's just that usually more people subscribe than get culled so it doesn't show up in statistics.
>>58304473can't dominate if half of the livers don't stream
>>58304460Who?
>>58304506*graduated
>>58304501shouldn't the shark be at 100k subs if that's the case?
>>58304282>blue horizonNot a proper song release. It's an intro animation first, an original song second.
>>58301534#coom4moom
>>58304528soft
>>58304020>Advent out of nowhereCompletely organic
>>58304509chimken
>>58304555Ryan?
Why is ReGloss performing well in CCV when they have the worst subs in Hololive?Yes debut buff. But even still. Those high CCVs even in a debut buff are reserved for like 200k+ subscribers. Not goddamn 80k subs.
>>58304211It's a cute cover and has a good MV, glad to see 9AM getting official work. I like his fan animations.
>>58303823I can't believe so many people responded seriously to this shitpost.
>>58304459Nahh it will be as always. Everything stop after october and then wait until the next mid July-August buff.
>>58303932Idiot, did you skim the post and failed to get the message?Here are Marine shorts over 1M>pic relatedYou can see clearly that the majority are either>from her MVs>from her live streamsWithout both her song MVs and her streams she wouldn't have nearly have the material she used for her shortsThe reason for the success of her shorts is the success of her songs and her live streams
>>58304577no. wawa
>>58304624Rayray?
>>58304506i mean, not even half of hololive was streaming, with only Pekora leading the army.
>>58304539haha shark dead subs, so funny and original.
>>58304584They're going viral in Japan.
>>58303713day1 debuff. people watch micomet instead new girls. hajime and raden get 30k+
>>58303521So in a month from now, what numbers for the new JP?
>>58304656LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
>on pace on beating Miko's (55hrs) and Fubuki's (63hrs)I thought she's done, bros?
>>58304642difference is the one that streams gets podium, niji stays in the bottom
So do we have any evident that streaming while releasing short reduce the chance that yt magic algorithm recommend your shorts to potential new viewers? Don't people who are specifically looking for you on yt search bar already know who you are?
>>58304650>30k outfit reveal
>>58304690She's done with streaming, yes.
>>58304423Does she really speak Korean? I thought it was part of the retarded chinanago joke
>>58304459Last year she got almost 500k between Augus-September but after that she got stuck. Nothing new. And this year is less than half.
>>58304690>3 more days!!!holy cope
>>58304585Is 9AM homo free? Gura pls protect this person
>>58304283Cover is a public company anon, they need to have 40% rev+profit growth every year to stroke their shareholders.They can't just keep doing the same thing over and over when the rest of the industry are experimenting other ways to make money and appeal to a larger demographics.Besides laplus doing this doesn't really hurt anyone and only risks her channel in which she doesn't even enjoy streaming in. Just like the comments said, they'll support the other holomems instead.
>>58304211maybe it's just an algo thing on my end but i saw more JP fans pushing this cover more than her usual EN fans
>>58304584Nigga did you miss the entire week of their subs being culled? They're probably at like 250k+ subs between ghost subs and people who got unsubbed but are still getting them recommended.
>>58304690She still has 8.5 million to go until she beats miko's cover.
>>58304486Hehehe
>>58304717It's all bs by Lap, she just wants to stream valo all day on Twitch with eceleb guys and that's it
>>58304690AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE MY KNEES ARE BENDING
>OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO PEKOBROS!PEKORA IS GRAVE ROBBING OUR BELOVED DEPARTED LIVERS!>HOW DO YOU RESPOND?!
>>58304437But Laplus is already a loli....
>>58304595"Kiara said..." is almost up there with "X said Y on a members stream" for babby's first bait.Easy (You)s every time.
>>58302919What is she doing that's different? Is she honing her vocal talents, aiming to be a diva-esque singer like Suisei? Or is she networking to get with a bunch of music professionals to produce a bunch of songs and eventually a big record label like Mori? What are La+'s ambitions and what is she doing right now to reach them?
>>58304812>liverskys
>Kiara are you going to interview Holostars?????>Not really, noHeh. Kiara has her issues but she comes through in the clutch
>>58304812management should reset every chunk rushia built on
Another Phase yab - it seems they employ antisemites
>>58304875what's new
Just got back from doing /hlg/ reps and I noticed the Variumschizo posts thereAre all our schizos just borrowed from other generals?
>>58304812learn english
>>58304796Someone rrat it out. He's regretting leaving isn't he?
>>58304812BASED grave robbing. We love pegora in this thread.
>>58304776>they need to have 40% rev+profit growth every year to stroke their shareholders.Yeah, and the answer to that is to trade a more profitable activity for a less profitable one, great thinking!
>>58304812
>>58304875>it's ok when hololive does it
>>58304690love the authentic seethes during her outfit reveal hours, totally not a Discord planned one KEK
>>58304812>BELOVEDtoo obvious liver bro
>>58304768Just a bunch of cgdct stuff https://www.youtube.com/@9amEN/videos
>>58304933yup
Which chuuba made the best 9/11 joke
>>58304812NOOOOOOOOOO PEKO!!!!!!! RESPECT OUR LIVERS!
>>58303823I hope they stop caring about shorts and music
>>58304211i do wonder how long shes had the cover ready since the outfits have been done for a while now
>>58304933Ina is Shiina's oshi - coincidence?
>>58304933>HolocastYou know it.
>>58304863>another woman says "NO"oh no no no incels will get butthurt again
Pippa has better numbers than Kiara nowadays...And Mori is not so far ahead
>>58304895This thread is, in certain periods, the fastest one in the whole site.It is only natural that it will attract EVER SINGLE MOTHERFUCKING SCHIZO in the place, including>barneyfag
>>58304977PESSAN??? RUSHIA GRADUATED???
>>58305022An unfortunate name...
>>58305023>Biting global bait
>>583035213 fucking Niji streams on a tally, it's fucking over NIJIBROS.
>>58304211This is her first cover of her own. It better do great.
>>58304103this you?
>>58305051won't be long until she can mog the shark at this rate.
>>58304933yes
Patiently waiting for tally anon to post his cripple tally so I may shamelessly begin my daily hololive wanking and hololive Gold circlejerk jackoff sessions.
>>58305099kek
>>58305074who cares, as long as one of them is GOLD BABY
>>58304611your picture literally disagrees with your conclusion retard. the majority of her most successful shorts aren't from her MVs or 3D Live. Her most popular shorts (5M+ views) had little to nothing to do with big budget MVs you somehow keep insisting is her main driver in the algo.
>>58304812Massive Pecock in action...
>>58305071>imagine camping global
>>583046901 mil in 24hrs possible? Do your job EN primetime
>>58304977i'm not watching this clip. did she actually say "graduated" or is this just a convenient interpretation by the clipper?
>>58304103>>58305099Maestrochama...
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>58305099NTA but THE maestro clearly knows what he's talking about
>>58305160it is incredibly unlikely
>>58305113She already gets way more superchat revenue than gura
>>58304418Didn't someone said niji's box is growing and they continue to expand their audience even if their debut numbers are shit? What's with this then?
>>58304863She went from "maybe" at the start of Holotalk to "nah fuck that shit" at this point.
>>58302666Checked top comments, most of them seem positive, but rarely have any upboats.I get the feeling this is gonna be yet another silent exodus. The graphs says it all.
>>58305182Um....hajimeBros?
>>58305182lmao, he won't hold back once you show acceptance.
>>58302117This is a very interesting comparison.How much are the new JP expected to decline?
>>58305182based hoshiyomi
>>58304974Pekora and Towa on Sept 11, 2020
>>58304584All numbers are fake.That's why we don't talk much about them.
Hey anons!Ui beamuuuuuuuuuuuu~!
>>58304786The song went viral in Japan a couple months ago, but EOPs barely know it exists.
>>58305224the graph unironically isn't saying anything
>>58305138>fact checking bait is camping global now
>>58305160No but unless it falls off a cliff then it should easily beat Miko’s to 1M. Might even be faster than Marine’s last original (44h)
https://twitter.com/sagisu94820840/status/1701135898547765491CUTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>58305224Yep, speedrunning to matsuri status. It's a shame, but that's the path she's chosen. I hope she's made enough money already.
>>58305099No. Same wavelength. Everyone is thinking it.
>>58305061OH NO NO NO NO NO, PEKORA IS DABBING AT HER GRAVE!>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!THE PEKOSCHIZO WAS RIGHT! HE WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG!>AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBgdlM-RlGg
>4 hour Moom vodIs it good? is it worth watching?
Is Kyoufuu All Back some sort of metaphor or is it really just a silly song about getting blown around by the wind when trying to walk around outside
>>58305264Weren't you guys going crazy in celebrating them getting culled over and over and saying how weak Holo has become since a week ago?
>>58305238ReGLOSS will never drop below 10k.
>>58305312It's fucking fantastic. One of the best streams this year for EN imo
>>58305224It starts bleeding when she stops talking about all that shit and it turns into a normal zatsudan. That is to say, about a third of the people watching where in it only for the drama.
>>58305318funi meme song
>Regloss debuts>Holomem move towards shorts content because of management's "advice"
>>58305312It's cute, and I don't watch her.
https://twitter.com/suisei_hosimati/status/17012825336511284822000 days of activity, she set the next milestone at 3000.
>>58305262Towa is responsible for the word “yab” do not forget
>>58305330Ririka already drop to 9.8k at ddlc today....
>>58305312If you like Advent then yes it's a must-watch. If you're not really into them then no.
>>58305318look at the other songs, retard
>>58305330So how much will ReGloss drop then? Do you have an estimate?
>>58305318It’s actually about the capitalist machine stomping Japanese children underfoot
>>58304916True sister! and Nintendo should have kept making radios and not venture on home entertainment in the early 80s!
9.8k for twins under giga overlap.good or no? 1.2k under their floor..
>>58305312It was great. The last hour or so is SC reading, but the rest is her drawing and chatting with Advent members
>>58303509>/#/ does mathAnon, divide by 100 and multiple that by 2.$40 / 100 = 40 cents * 2 = 80 cents per shirt.
is this true? >>58305270 la+ is graduating from streaming?
>>58305262The Sora mountain thing? Was that really on 9/11?
>>58305312If you like Advent interaction.
>>58305281nta but the decline started after her whole spiel about changing platforms and when she started talking about regloss, and then zatsu.
>>58305396I love the part where the capitalist dictator finally fell to the masses (blown by the wind)
https://twitter.com/yos4817/status/1700848974578819290
>>58305312good stream. cute girls.
>>58305412She's moving her solo content outside karaoke to twitch.
>>58304863Didn't she say she would later? She change her mind after tempiss ruined everything for everyone?
>>58305312It's the stream that made me think, "huh, maybe the twins dynamic can work in collabs, after all."
>>58305160nah that's impossible, at best it will be at 750k-800k in 24h
>>58305365>Laplus>ever listening to anyone's advice or doing anything other than whatever she feels like doing
>>58305358What was the meme? Why did it blow up though, the song itself is pretty meh.
>>58304584>Why is ReGloss performing well in CCV when they have the worst subs in Hololive?Their subs have been culled.
jwu qrd on the yab?
>>58305379>expect me to be in hololive until I get old>I want to celebrate 10 years of being a holomem>I'll be in hololive until I dieAAAAAAAAAAH NIJIBRONIES WHY AREN'T THEY GRADUATING????
>>58304717its true to some extent, but the difference isn't anything significant if we go by established youtube channels that opted to have their exclusive shorts channel.
Huh, Ollie covered Identity with some literal whohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tUVVU23-vU
>>58305123>had little to nothing to do with big budget MVsMost of them have either to do with her high budget MVs or to do with her regular (solo or collab) live streams.How can she do that if she is not live streaming or pushing out high budget MVs (which is Laplus plan)?
>>58305420yes9/11https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TJ4ogvRAAs
>>58304875>this>yabMissed the suicide discord thing huh?
>>58303989sub culled from 182,010 to 181,990 and it will displayed -1,000do you guys not know how youtube works? for account with more than 100k subs
>>58305384>Ririka already drop to 9.8kDoes anyone think any of them can compete with the best of JP in a month from now?
https://twitter.com/apmoa/status/1701274436505313677Raden getting noticed by the museum she talked about on stream is cute. Not sure why the museum intern is posting on twitter at 1 in the morning but whatever.
>>58304812>liverswhat a retard...
>>58305182leech
>>58305289what's the most recent Holo cover or original which broke 1m in 24hrs?
>>58305379meanwhile, laplus:
>>58305544pegor... I'm surprised this didn't turn into a minor yab at the time.
>>58305538>Kagura nana>Literally whoHow fucking new?
>>58305512japan had some fun with ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkCcKfcAWK8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfkD0glS-bU
>>58305580>Not just telling the ironic shitposter to kill themselves
>>58305538>Kagura Nana>literal who
Is Ao-Kun really Edo Lena?? I don't see any similarities in their voice
So that's it? Gura just wins AGAIN?
>>58304539I don't know why I'm answering in good faith but Gura doesn't tick down because she is constantly gaining new subs. It's why a natural tick down is so grim - it's not just that sub growth has stopped, it's that you are growing so slowly that you're actually reclining.
>>58305379Suischizo not gonna like this one.
>>58305567Being tagged, a lot by people, tends to help.
>>58303521> Use z'd numberskys
>>58305160Nah, 800-850k in 24h
>>58305530Laplus owned her antis by saying they're the reason she went on a break and that she won't stream on youtube anymore.
>>58305412It's just a refocus in content delivery. She'll barely stream on YouTube. But will continue making yt shorts and short form content. Expect her to make appearances as guest in 3D anniversary lives and birthday lives, also official channel variety stuff. That's your Spoonfeed.
>>58305662Whomst?
>>58305648So some Nip found this silly song and decide to make meme out of it?
>>58305182at least put the ones where regloss reply
>>58305439the graph declines when she stops showing slides about regloss antis to be specific.
>>58305565Raden seems promisingNips always love great zatsuAnd she is kinda unique compare to other holomem
>>58305512>>58305648 (me)just search "強風オールバック"
>>58305538Man imagineThis wouldn't be allowed today, they'll have to go to the dance studiohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPH6rlRDPHk
>>58305384she peaked at 12k. even pekora drops below 10k during part c sometimes.
>>58305395For each Nintendo that succeeded there are a hundred thousand other companies that tried and failed miserably
FAUNA??? YOUR FRAME FOR TODAY???
>>58305312>Collabs with every advent before your oshi can collab any
>>58305660Debunked first day
>>58305733>>58305743there's lots of variations, there's even an ad that uses this song
>>58305610Maybe Marine Set Sail at 17 hours? If you count the First Take stuff for Suisei then those were both under 12 hours but it’s kind of different
>>58305099Did I miss some La+ earlick ASMR stream or something?
>>58305313FUCK, I'm jesting but this part right here put a lum in my throat, Pekora actually rebuilt the PekoRushia house>whose diamonds she plundered last year to bet on horsieswith her gains of this year.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBgdlM-RlGg
>>58305565Probably Hajime and Raden, altought its still too early for Raden as she got that Debut 2.0 buff I don't know why people were saying Debut 2.0 when she shown her face in full group collab. I still can't judge Ao pretty well since I don't know who's watching her tbqh
>>58305662I love goombus.
>>58303474My brain can't process Nerissa being the youngest in Advent. It's like when the sisters doxxpost Mumei and I try to imagine her voice with that face.Brain no compute.
>>58305777But that is her second streamWhile it was working hour on mondayThat number is still quite lowBut at the bright side, she almost complete the boring part so tomorrow number might be better
>>58305551>Missed the suicide discord thing huh?What?
>>58303760Gura's MV should have subs
>>58305473Wasn't it just Fuwawa for a big stretch?
>Miko 9 million>shark 600k
>>58305725Vtuber of the year
>>58304875big yikes
>>58305538Why is her name both in katakana and hiragana anyway
>58305918what's this retard even doing
>>58305813>>58305743>>58305648One day i'll crack the viral code and make millions.
>>58305551HuhQrd?
>>58305741So only Raden? Honestly, it’s hard to tell how much any of them are going to drop until we see it. I’m thinking maybe none of them will be at the top of JP in a month, but uncertain.
>>58305318It's literally about people getting blown around by the wind. IIRC a month after its release(around April?) Tokyo was hit by extremely strong wind for around a week, prompting people on Twitter to spread the song and make it viral.
>>58305878GOOM MAJI KAWAII
>>58305918Wait Miko is not even at 10 million despite striking at the height of the song’s popularity?
>>58305565outside of debut buff i can only see Kanade and Raden to average above 10k.They're watame tier at best
It's not like La+ was streaming much in the first place.
GOGO Okayu.
This is like when someone learns about hololive for the first time and falls in love with a gen they're introduced toHer obsession with re:gloss is something else
>>58305932Filian?
>>58306029better for shiori to latch on regloss than homos
>>58305648Those are actually pretty funny and now I appreciate the song better. Thanks.
>>58305969This new outfit looks more detailed here and less softly textured. Did she use a filter in her stream or something?
>comment: I feel like it would be more fun if you graduated from holo>Lap: That's not true! I'm here because I want to do things that only holo can do!
Fauna... your numbers are not enough to act like Gura... Please at least spend 2 mins making dumbass tweets I beg you
>>58306017Oh, Koyo AND Subaru are higher than P-san.
>>58303274She's gonna step out of the box again.She'll be back once she loses relevance.
>>58306017mikoKING working SMART
>>58306029It’s probably the first JP debuts/streams she’s watched so yeah
>>58306085>Lap: That's not true! I'm here because I want to do things that only holo can do!
>>58306017Damn, Kaela only 4th? Japan trip must be hard on her
>>58303823> Kiara just said her recent shorts and music are not doing welI FUCKING TOLD YOU THIS IS A MANAGEMENT PROBLEMWHO THE FUCK GIVES A SHIT ABOUT SHORTS !?
>>58305892>>58305957One of them apparently freaked out and started suicide baiting in discord. Messages got deleted later by a manager.
>>58306146Did she say what those were other than free money?
So why is youtube trying very hard to hide the fact that they cull the fuck out of content they don't approve of?
>>58305160>Do your job EN primetimeIf anything that song will do worse since it's only popular in Japan.
Damn. JP Vtuber aspirants aren't even looking at Niji anymore.
>>58306169Do you know which talent?
>>58306080yes she did, there's some anons that really think the painting was messed up when in fact she was just being an instagram girl
>>58306146>only holo can doyeah, earn shitton if u deserve it or become kronii
WHO WOULD WIN THIS FIGHT TO THE DEATH?!?!>Laplus, in her return stream, talking about serious issues with lots of controversy?>a humble sheep trying to make ends meet by fixing her honest gambling machine on Minecraft?THE ANSWER WILL VALIDATE THE STORY ARC "SCHIZO"!
>>58306085Honestly it sounds less like doing something that only a Holo can do and more of doing something because only a Holo gets that privilege for. Who would even give a shit to her if she's using her other account?
>>58306236everybody knows about 2% now
>>58306260I've apologized so many times, please forgive me already...
>>58305182Kek, the moment this faggot was kicked from the fps box he tries to worm his way back into the Holo one. He's really dedicated in becoming more pathetic than Aruran.
>>58306236Um...nijikekHow should we response?
>>58306049Who?
>>58306292BOW DEEPER!>(bowing 90 degrees) STORY ARC PROPHET, PLEASE FORGIVE ME!
>>58305985>can only see Kanade and Raden to average above 10k.I think the issue is that some of the other JP are still very popular. So it may be very hard to pull them away. Whereas with EN, much of them don’t stream much anyway.
>>58306236Nobody with self-respect wants to deal with the VTA bullshit.
>>58306080she loves the noise-like filter. She also used it on her members karaoke twice already
>>58304776>Cover is a public company anon, they need to have 40% rev+profit growth every year to stroke their shareholders.Where the hell is this 40% rev growth meme coming from?Public companies are only legally obligated to: a) report their financials publicly, and b) have a board of directors elected from shareholdersThe latter is firmly in control by Yagoo and his allies since they own the majority of the stockOfc they want to grow their revenue and profits but Cover going public made little difference on that goal
>>58305051She's over 3k already though, phasecuck. Don't get too uppity because Plappa mogs bargain bin NijiCN organs.
>>58305662sure, how about chumbuds though?
>>58305472Remember how Ina went from doing a collab cover with Axel to not even willing to mention Vesper by name in regard to Pako doing his redesign?
>>58306080Yeah she definitely applied a filter over the outfit. It looks like a dream-lens-like effect. (Army of the dead, Oppenheimer) with soft textures and blur in some areas. But why?
>>58306260>honest gambling machinethere is no such thing
Reply to this post like Riku just stepped down as CEO of Anycolor
>>58306270why isn't there any liver farm then?
>>58306260Wait Laplus actually even leecherd ReGLOSS on her return just for 13k?
>>58306429that's Nijisanji
>>58306049lmao
>>58306416how much for a night, girl?
>>58306481kek
>>58306412Ina didn't mention Stars in her streams, I don't think she even spoke about cover she did with Stars.
>>58306489Damn, she bussin
>>58306489better than half of HoloEN
GURA PLEASE STREAM MINECRAFT AND PLAY WITH ADVENT
>>58306429moral and ethics.
>>58306255Hime or something I think
>>58301534>put a shitter chuuba on opgrim
>>58304865>management should reset every chunk rushia built onHere is one of the MOST FUCKING ENDEARING THING EVER DONE IN HOLOLIVE!>pic relatedWhen Rushia got ganked it was some unprecedented moment in Hololive history.People didn't really know if she would get "unpersoned" and forever erased or what but Haachama gave no fucks and took upon herself to preserve Rushia's memory.She took ownership of Rushia's house and property and, by doing that, took off the table the idea that management could just erase her from existence.
>>58306017explain to me how Mori can stream so much while also being enslaved by UMG
>>58306547lmao
>>58306080Gura uses filters whenever she's trying to do GFE-ish roleplay
>>58306518>I don't think she even spoke about cover she did with Starsnta, she did, I remember her talking about wanting to sing as miku for that song
>>58306110Gonna tune in now, some juicy stuff incoming
>>58306473I actually didn't notice she leeching reGlossShe is fucking over13k for return and leeching is so low
>>58306575yeah and where are the haachama streams now...
>>58305289Definitely won't have the legs of Marine's latest original though. That was actually her slowest one to 1 million but ended up being her fastest to 10 million because it had insane legs and was actually getting faster with each million after a while.
>>58306556nyo, only Myth relay and Big Brains 2 for you chumbie.Also, who will be participating for Big Brains? Hopefully no IDs and no champion defending her title
>>58306518She spent less than a minute talking about it on her comeback stream and never touched the subject again, and when Pako popped up in her chat after Vesper's redesign she didn't even say his name and only congratulated Pako on his new kid.
>>58306556Mate, Kaela tee'd up the EASIEST put for Gura and she fumbled it.Kaela filled God knows how many chests with quarts for Gura to build her Atlantis and put her whole autism behind her to make sure she would succeed and Gura just said she would, and then silently backed out.There is no chance Gura will ever commit to anything on Minecraft
>>58303521>15,748: Ao (Hololive)>12,203: Ririka (Hololive)Debut buff doko?
>>58306570kys ESLtard
>>58306080not only did she use a filter, she had her live2d render resolution turned down for whatever reason.
>>58305379Meanwhile in reality her Holo "activity" is dead, she no longer streams on her channel except to shill, and she stopped doing karaoke. It's so obvious she has one foot out the door and I couldn't be happier for her if that's how she's going to succeed. But she should stop pretending she's dedicated to Hololive.
>>58306519If by "bussin", you mean doing bottom of the barrel react content, then yeah.
>>58305541https://youtube.com/shorts/FmDM2RnwlzIhttps://youtube.com/shorts/f9Rx5axvWqchttps://youtube.com/shorts/Fqil-9kZwx4This is some of her most popular shorts that have 5M+ viewsExplain how this has anything to do with her big budget MV or something that Laplus can't end up doing anyway or post shorts from her that has 5M+ views that does have something to do with her big budget MVs.If you can't then shut up or explain why you've been wrong and dishonest from the start claiming bullshit.
>>58304812They were her employees tho, their properties are pretty much herRushia last MC stream was even about building for Usaken
>>58306416Gura unironicaly likes the scuff and is trying to artificially produce SOVL
>>58306560booo no fun
>>58306640Well, there is a bigger chance for a Haachama stream now than one of Magni, Vesper, Nina or Mysta, that's for sure
>>58306236>hololive TALENTS. hololive IDOLS. hololive MEMBERS. hololive GENERATIONS.>Bargain Bin Niji Liver Organs. Niji twitcher streamers but with anime avatars. Niji zhang botted waves.
>>58306649AmeKiaraFaunaFuwawaMococoTake it or leave it?
>>58306673That describes quite a few of the girls now
>>58306662koko
>>58306678If getting 5M+ is that easy we would have already seen someone else other than Marine do it
[Good News] Zeta started the stream 20 minutes late
>>58306697This is her favorite person after all
FaunaFaumeiSNOCGDCTHololive
>>58306581>short anwserautism >long anwsershe one those people that just throw themselve into working and only working cause they have nothing else going on in their lives
>>58306662here are some copes for that>Ao got her targeted demographic>Ririka wasn't in JP prime-time
>>58306581Mori unironically loves her fans, loves streaming, and loves Hololive. She streams to destress.
>>58306750Welcome to the first army, Raden.
>>58306370It is called the rule of 40, a baseline for tech startups/stocks that are still in their growth phase.
>>58306541HOLY SHIT a 70yo NOUSAGI
>>58306804She's workaholic
>>58306783if I had a time machine...
>>58306236What happens when nijijp top guys graduate? We just saw nijien collapse
>>58306581Mori's said that streaming is her way of relaxing and unwinding these days, but I think part of it is the same as how she was around debut in that she doesn't know what to do with free time and always needs to be 'working' in one way or another.
>>58306581fame and money, what else would motivate anyone doing anything?
>>58306865well I hope they doesn't because competition is good
>>58306110>autism triggered meme responseShiori...
>>58305182did she reply to him?
>>58306855she use to be a alcoholic, she basically trade one vice for another
>>58306370yagoo and his allies only add up to ~43% of the company anon.Unless the VC hag is a 6 years soratomo, she's siding with the VCs and the public if things went awry
You know, if Fuwamoco said they'd only be streaming on twitch all of a sudden, I'd probably still continue watching them there.But then again, I membered Fuwamoco because they didn't seem the type to do something as retarded as that...
>>58306017>Biboo 2nd on stream timeLFG!
>>58306783>RHOMBUS RIGGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>58306581she likes streaming and treats it as her break time from project workshe also likes hanging and talking with her fans a lot since she faces lots of negativity in general spaces
FAUNAAA WHERE IS YOUR FRAME UUUUUUUUU
>>58306946Is Biboo the EN Kaela and Koyori we've been searching for?
>>58305662>doubting blue mumei
>>58306783who the fuck is this I've seen her a lot but I always thought it was Elira
>>58307042rhombus maker
>>58305662recline so hard roruits over
>>58306678>or something that Laplus can't end up doing anywayNobody is saying that Laplus can't try but here are the weeks preceding this short right herehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmDM2RnwlzI>pic relatedIf you think Laplus can completely forego live streaming and command enough attention to beat what Marine did when she was getting an average of some 50k people per stream in a span of 3 weeks or so... I don't know what to tell you
love you kuroe
>>58307001Looking very likely right now.
I need art of Biboo, Mumei and Fauna being cute together
what gives? she's been reposting lots of Gura stuff lately
>>58306937They would never. They aren't really gamers and honestly kind of fell backwards into streaming. They wouldn't care about the distinction between youtube or twitch
>>58307042>herit's a man
>>58307001Biboo is EN Keala - long streamsTwins are EN Koyori - lots of shorter streams
Someone posted this at shiori on twitter. I need to get a dwarf edit for when elves win gold.
>>58306987So she is a menhera who would start writing new fuck the hater songs without an outlet.
>>58306751I accept your concession.
>>58306581CHILL IT WITH THE ANTIGURAISM QUESTION
>>58306429> he doesn't know
>>58307042Anonchama... Your history reps... Nonexistent.
>>58306937I'd watch my oshi do her normal content on Twitch, why not. Although not too happily because I find the site less convenient than Youtube.But I wouldn't watch my oshi play valorant and only valorant on twitch. My dedication has limits and that's far beyond them
>>58307136Skyline Chili is, and always was, shit.Fuck you, Cincinnati.
>>58307126She realized Gura exists
>>58307042The person responsible for this crime against humanity
>>58307164nani
bijou is a whore
>>58307126It's not uncommon for her to retweet stuff with her and Gura. She's one of the very few vtubers with a connection to Gura after all.
>>58307218true but she does get numbers so she is on topic for this thread unfortunately.
>>58307218>>58307260Settle down.
>>58304073Yeah, just tried it myself, can definitely put previous live streams on the top of the front page. Here are the categories, can list them in whatever order I want top to bottom.
>>58307218A whore for Fauna and Mumei, and that's a good thing
>>58307218Yeah, my personal whore.
>>58307133>Twins are EN Koyor-I TOLD YOU ALL ABOUT THE LAMYRAMYD!>KNEEL AND APOLOGIZE!DO IT NOW!
>>58307190No one actually eats it. Its tourist food.
>>58303474MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS???????
>>58307193That's the updated version though. An improvement as well because that initial rigging that had holes was unacceptable.
>>58307317
>>58307319>No one actually eats it.If you only knew.
I hope this shy kirin gets along with her kouhais. Can't wait for Fauna x Biboo collab.
>>58307193He couldn't draw for shit the last time I checked 3 years ago. That's why Gura is all transforms and weird polygons sliding around... his art was just as fucked up. Cover at that time basically let anyone who followed a live2d tutorial do rig edits for outfits, and then let that guy in particular do a full ground-up rig for Gura.
>>58307394her ego wouldn't allow her to collab with Bijousame reason she never collabs with Inato Fauna both of them are competition
>>58306489>>58306547https://twitter.com/Holo_Data/status/1701144043122761820/photo/2I checked since I was curious So far this month she mogs Mori, Ame, Shiori, Kiara, and Bae. So not quite half of EN, but you can probably say she mogs 3/5 Myth, the strongest EN generation.
>>58307394She's gonna have a ton of fun, I think she'd been looking for someone who appreciates her favourite game
>>58306783I miss him.
>>58307218She has a terminal case o GfM, it's over for other chuubas
>>58306678See, the thing is, all she needed to do was follow the Ayame path.Stream on twitch however much you want.Do whatever shorts or videos or whatever else.Just drop in on Youtube once a month or even once every 2 months so that your memberships get renewed and chat with them for a bit.Just. ONCE. Once a fucking MONTH.Absolutely fucking NOTHING would change either, since you already don't stream that much anyway. But you'll still appear in main channel programs, collabs etc. and still keep your mindshare up.Soooooo many of your senpai can survive on that little stream time, so why do YOU think you need to completely FOREGO Youtube streaming ENTIRELY?Only an actual Graduation would be worse for your fans. Even indefinite hiatus is 50-50 since you'd at least come back to Youtube once it's done, although those who want to watch you can still dive through the dumpster fire that is twitch.
>>58307358Nah, I took it from the reveal stream but didn't get a good frame. Look at this
>>58307101>if you thinkNo one is claiming laplus is going to be anywhere close to beating Marine retard.Where the fuck did that came from?A success of this approach would be getting half the subs growth Marine has consistently, which is still faster than the rest of the company besides the new debuts.She'll cultivate mostly zoomers and casuals that doesn't have half the attention span to watch streams regularly, but even those people can be useful even if they don't buy merchs or attend concerts.
God damn they got culled again?? Fuck the good thing is that the 2 good ones are ahead now …Also RADEN CUTE!!!!
>>58307436>Twitch numbers
>It's another "let's directly compare Twitch and Youtube CCV" episodeAnyone else tired of these reruns for the past year
>>58306017I hope pekora can catch up koyori before 20th>>58306581she is hard worker and not lazy
>>58301713>La+, barely streams, comes back, immediately antagonizes everyone>Gura, never streams, comes back... I just want our time together to be funThose Laplus types of women are annoying as fuck
>>58307436>Shiorishe just debuted though
>>58307432Retardchama...
Ririka who stood up until 3 AM to see her 100k is now the runt of the generation. RNJEESUS PLEASE
>>58307478>the 2 good onesAll of them not named Ao-kun are good though.
>>58307478I love my smokin', drinkin' hagwife.
>>58306923she didn't. only ao has replied to homos post debut
>>58307466aiEEEeeeeeee
Ummmm... Is this /SNO/ thread?
>>58307218why pick her out of all people to go schizo over?she doesn't even have that much interesting shitpost ammo, you'll have to samefag literally every single one of your baits.why bother?
>>58301926Yea her roommate concerts are always at cons so if TT fags happen to be there to shill their own shit they might check in with brapper, doesn't make them super close.
>>58307532I love her, but I think she's going to be too high level for my dekinai ass.
>>58307466Pretty sure we broke the instantaneous 4chan post rate record with the face reveal.
>>58307193
>>58307562Yes, but SNO posting is primarily around FST and EN hours
>>58307218so does fauna
>Looking at Radens comments>Lots of smokers happy as fuck and recommending herWait did she unlock a new audience? Did she complete Dev_is plan?
>>58307589>most of the thread probably haven't seen thishttps://youtu.be/n8n3VaLEvkU?t=3836
>>58307432How can someone be so confident and yet so wrong?
>>58306662>>58304663
>>58307570FWMC are teflon and Bijou is the 2nd most popular advent and look to be a long term high tier EN
>>58307618Pretty that, and just and older market as well of fans.
>>58307126Remember when Nacho went to sleep right before Gura's 3D live started?
>>58307193The craziest was her first outfit.Literally couldn't be bothered to actually cover up the GAP in between her skin and her shirt (you can see the bit on the right of the bottom two frills)Along with a chunk of her tail just being fucking missing, and EXTREME rhombus face, the ears being completely flat.It was such a fucking shitshow that they had to make a statement asking people not to shit on the rigger.
>>58307465Watch streams threadreader-chamashe still is going to stream at YouTube for sponsors, karaokes or important zatsudans.She just won't stream regularly there like Minecraft or FOTM stuffs
I hope Cover will extend debuts in the future, 30 minutes is pretty chaffing for anyone actually competent or ambitious, 45 minutes was still a bit short but way better than 30 minutes
>>58307599Is Faufau even streaming or is Biboo gonna have a wide open timeslot for a few hours again?
>>58307578
>>58307370>Macross 7nicehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOa5TjwgVlc
>>58307562SN
>>58307637Huh. How come this Gura stream has chapters?
>>58307436what the fuck happened to kronii?
>>58307707I'm sorry Korosan, I'm just too retarded and lazy...
Mooms and Biboo mesh really good together. I love them.
I just realised that my irl idol oshi is affiliated with honeyworks. Hope she sings with my oshi
Bijou streams too much.This is a problem.
>>58307723Auto-generated.
>>58307676shit was unacceptable for a 2view, let alone someone in hololivenever forget
>>58307653>Bijou is the 2nd most popular advent and look to be a long term high tier ENShe is the only real gamer in Advent and has proven to be a reliablly good collab partner for anyone in EN at this point, and on the ID side even enduring 12 whole hours with Kaela the robot so probably so.
>>58307494>Average CCV>Twitch numbersWhat?
>>58307676Nerissa has that problem too lol
>>58307765I thought their Portal 2 collab was eh but the moment they didn't have to focus on a game I really liked their dynamic.
>>583062802% is known in Japan for 5 years
>>58307723YouTube experimenting with AI generated chapter markers when it detects enough scene transitions for a video.
>>58307817he means compared to filianthe only filian stream on youtube was 1M celebration and was at max 4k
>>58307436>mogged by ironmouse>mogged by filianCover should just shitcan holoEN already.
IMAGINE FAUMEI ASMR
>>58307465she's not going to completely abandon yt streaming, 3D Lives are still going to be there. memberships however....Plusmates definitely are getting the short end of the stick here, I believe everyone here agrees with that.Hopefully they can find other holos as oshi
>>58307882After your homos, beggar.
>>58307653Remind me how many people watched her play Armored Core when she had no overlap?
Ah ah did Ao-kun got shadowbanned?
>>58307897I am actually sad they didn't get around to it in Japan
>>58302297An hour later they revelead the krisis+jp heroes half anniversary merch so they totally expected that one to be received negatively. Unit series is a big cashgrab where they reuse the key visuals on merch and their worst merch by far
>>58307724OTN
>>58307922That's good for a kusoge.
>>58307952Every passing day I dislike Nerissa a bit more
>>58307925nvm
>>58305985>watame tierThat's a good tier to be in though.... especially if its consistent
>>58306541>tfw Pekora had to purposefully learn how to laugh differently because she was starting to get recognized by literal grampsKinda makes sense in hindsight, her voice is both a blessing and a curse
>>58307925You have to search "Ao ch" to find her
>>58303279There's no merch drama. people are just shitting on the merch and this will be forgotten in a few days.
Youtube ads are getting out of control
>>58307136gotchu
>>58307910> 3D Lives are still going to be therepffffffffhahahahahahhahaliterally just saying "I'm just in it for the cash"fucking RIP, this will be the end of her mindshare in the holobox.
>>58307925You have more chances to find doxxnigger videos before the actual channels if you search by full name. Just add a "ch" at the end
>>58307952But why
>>58308006Pretty much have to buy premium or use adblocker
>>58307952what is her goal? what's the point of interacting with random nobodies? if she's got time for this she's got time to reply to any holo tweets instead.
>>58307926Wait this merch actually looks good. Why is no one talking about this?
Fauna might be thinking she should cancel Starfield stream and play Minecraft with Advent instead rn.
>>58308015Perfect
>>58307952As long as her priority is Hololive.
>>58308103I'll take that cunny, thank you very much
>>58307925The way you name your channel really matters for search optimization. Aki has the same issue.
>>58307475>A success of this approach would be getting half the subs growth Marine has consistentlyI say 60k subs per month is a hard threshold to reach.>but even those people can be useful even if they don't buy merchs or attend concerts.That's the second thing that remains to be seen. I am hard pressed to see ANY usefulness for them and there is even one example in Hololive itself to prove>2001 Ollie
>>58307952Why does it matter? It's twitter.
>>58306649Didn’t she just mention the idea and not even confirm she was in the process of organising something?
>>58308016>I'm just in it for the cash3D lives are net negatives if not for merchs anon.I think even she knows that the audience she's going for aren't the types to buy vtuber merchs
>>58307952I'm pretty apathetic about her after a month, thought she'd be my favourite EN3 predebut and shortly after.
>>583080163D Live Guest appearances. And variety content on the official channel. Her mindshare? Will remain as is.
>>58308125Shiori under 1k subs a day...
>>58307952Imagine getting into Holo and still talk with twitch thots
>>58308080>holoswho the fuck are those? KEK, she isn't Mori 2.0 for nothing. She needs an immediate 2021 Mori lesson about these Twitch circles
>>58308125How do we help fuwamoco get to a million?
>>58308080She replied to bunch of Holo tweets and was watching at least 3 streams this morning.
>>58308125Dogs will reach 600k before anyone else hits 500k...
>>58308102
>>58307925Hint for you anon: Use Bing instead of youtube's search or the related google search. Google went to totak shit a few years ago at least and gives you bad search results, often with whatever agenda they want to push not what you actually want to find. Bing actually brings up the youtube pages for every girls' channel.
>>58308083It's generic merch for literal 3views-1k average.The merch is ok but it's sad the standards are so low that anyone can think this "deserves praise"
>>58308125Bijou isn't even going to hit 500k by the end of the year at this point, growth is going to slow down so much by the end of the month
>>58303154Shes a /here/ chuuba, unironically probably spends more time posting on 5ch than she does streaming
>>58308169No, she said that BBG2 is coming back and it's ''close'' if I remember correctly. I predict it to be this month, maybe she plans on doing it annually every Septembers
>>58308252I now understand why Yagoo created regLOSS
>>58308172>3D lives are net negatives if not for merchsMate, the whole fucking purpose of 3D lives is to be a one hour infomercial to get the biggest live audience you can to buy your merch.>I think even she knows that the audience she's going for aren't the types to buy vtuber merchsYeah, she's going for an audience that won't watch her streams (because she won't stream), won't buy her merch, won't member her channel or donate.I wonder if she's becoming a Holostar
>>58308252Thank you BVTM discord
Stonk
>>58308182She chose pronouns over Mumei.Runt for life.
>>58307897>nerd shit with schizo ramblings ASMRi coom
>>58303707Has Laplus BANNED Gawr Gura from her chats yet?
>>58308083Those plushies are tiny and everyone gets them. They are barely a step above your standard Nijimerch, mediocre at best.
Lapuchan my beloved
>>58308232I don't think anyone at Alphabet knows enough about their own algos to game things like that. It's vastly more likely that SEO optimization keeps evolving to exploit the everloving fuck out of Google's algo, but they don't care enough about Bing's algo yet.
what kind of trash baits is this, I'm unimpressed
>>58307952>people not realizing the REAL yab in that interaction because no one here EVER had a pregnant wife
>>58308125Dogs are adding more popular stuff to their schedules slowly, hopefully they can keep it up and add some collabs to their streaming game outside of Advent.
>>58308365
>>58308374Is she the first HoloEN to bring up this culture war garbage on stream? I can't remember another example of this.
>>58306236>vtuber = Hololivethat's been the norm around the world since two years ago
>>58308461That was my first thought as well but more because of pop cultural osmosis as "pregnant chicks crave pickles" is exclusively a north american meme
>>58307897So happy it didn't happen and that Mumei spent time with Bae instead.
>>58308252it's funny because it's true
>Singer of the gen, "Demon of Sound">No karaokes>Only non-HoloEN collabs with ID shitters and possible twitch vtubers (god forbid nijiEN)what is her point
>>58308467I wish Kiara would tard wrangle these girls into more cgdct collabs
>>58308163They are useful in the one thing that the regular holo core viewers doesn't have.cross algo pollination with general/trending content.Holo regular viewers mostly only watch holos and only holos, some even do it in a special holo-only account for opsec or various reasons.This is terrible for algo in YouTube and Twitter, the last time that the majority of regular holo viewers doesn't do this is probably 2020/2021 where Hololive content are (because of it) still strong on the algorithms.More casual viewers and demographics that only consume holos <5% of the time spent on youtube are also watching the trendiest most popular youtube content, which helps the algo recommends holo content to other people that watches trendy/popular content.
>>58308475NotKronii_comment.jpg
>>58308475It's kind of ironic that Myth who people doomposted constantly about before debut when it came to that kind of thing never did it, but the 'perfect idols Advent' did.
>>58308475>Is she the first HoloEN to bring up this culture war garbage on streamI'm pretty sure that was you
>>58308537Her ccv is rapidly approaching 5k she is gonna end up like her oshi
>>58308252Okay, but why are you brown?
>>58308461She literally went to the state fair and was convinced to try pickle lemonade the other day, she talked about it on stream. Nice SEA schizo brain.
>>58308450Baby steps, let them cook
>>58308512Not now, SEAhooman
>>58308174I was looking forward to her being the main singer of the gen but I guess I was too hopeful.
>>58308374>chose pronouns over Mumeiqrd?
>>58308545Kronii has remained a woman on stream the entire time last time I checked.
>>58308590this shart is too smug
>>58308537being my cocksleeve
>>58308542>cross algo pollination with general/trending content.Mate, that's just restating the initial issue>tourists help by getting more touristsIf there is not a "hopper" in the end to funnel said tourists to become part of the proper "box", the audience that watches live streams, donate, member the channels, attend the concerts and buy the merchandise you just get .... well, you just get 2021 Ollie with the natural consequence being 2023 Ollie
>>58308463Anon, in their battle plan stream they emphasized that they want to play visual novels. Debuff games will always be there. That's what they love. That said, Gal Gun came up during the "improve FPS skills" discussion and that would definitely get numbers the first time since it'd be open-season for Fuwawa lewd-tinted comments.
>>58306906Hololive can always compete against Hololive
>>58308623towa...
>>58308623Towa...
>>58308537>No karaokesthis is my only complaint about herit's like her first unarchived traumatized her or something
>>58308600I guess all those koreans and nips who prefer Bae over Fauna are SEA too huh?Also I'm pretty sure all of SEA is sleeping right now.
>>58308537>whole ass branch of vsingers>groups theme is being a band>only one singerCover's upper management is just a bunch of monkeys selecting balls with words from a ball pit
>>58308623Remember the cuck box?
>3 hours leftPLEASE CHANGE YOUR PLAN TO MINECRAFT MONDAYPLEASE CHANGE YOUR PLAN TO MINECRAFT MONDAYPLEASE CHANGE YOUR PLAN TO MINECRAFT MONDAYPLEASE CHANGE YOUR PLAN TO MINECRAFT MONDAY
>>58308623all JPs should kneel to Myth for the sub boost
>>58308678Yes yes, Fauna very bad, we get it.
>>58308537Hoping she'll do GFE ASMR for members after the first month membership frenzy dies down.
>>58308560>the 'perfect idols Advent' did.Shiori has given off so many red flags on stream already it is difficult to count them all and many people noticed anon. Her simps just ignore them all and pretend she wants to be an idol when she has expressed zero itnerest in being one.
>>58307952she was a mistake
>>58304392>>58304146>>58303942>>58303781>>58304245>>58304285Hi, sorry I came so late, but we talked about this last year too.Chats are soft capped at 800/min for regular chatters, but members get counted differently, leading some streams to the 1200 hard cap you sometimes see.Basically yeah, Top Chat is what's being shown.
Numbers?
>>58308753Yeah?
>>58308537>can sing>must do regular karaokeretardchama
>>58308753
>>58308537you know understand that being the "singer" of a gen means shit
>>58308537>no Story of Seasons or Terrariabig improvement
>>58308006>Previously, Neal was Senior Vice President of Display and Video Ads at Google. hmm
>>58308252It's funny because Gura has never once had "low numbers". All people can do is shitpost about her numbers vs giga titans so you show this to any normie and they'll think "what". You need to be a /#/ sister to think it even makes sense
>>58308689Cover needs to reintroduce the cuckbox again if they really want to have fast subs growth
>>58308765Anon it's better if we ignore her covers
>>58308678Yeah
>>58308537She lives with her parents and she said they have relatives over right now. If they could hear her it might be too loud or she's too embarrassed to sing with company in the house. IRyS didn't like doing night JST karaokes at her old house for that reason
>>58308542>More casual viewers and demographics that only consume holos <5% of the time spent on youtube are also watching the trendiest most popular youtube content, which helps the algo recommends holo content to other people that watches trendy/popular content.I was okay with just letting Lap do her thing but you're starting to make me root for her to fail.
What the fuck is that discrepancy
>>58308765>can singtherein lies the problem, she can't singshe can process her voice for covers though
>>58308765>>can singQuestionable given her lack of karaoke skills. She needs an extremely controlled environment and probably hundreds of takes to produce any good covers.
>>58308792Neal was in charge of ads and launching shorts at Google/Youtube respectively. The direction of the site with him as CEO should not be surprising. Susan probably got pushed out after spending half a bil on poaching streamers to make a bunch of 4view shitters.
>>58308705HOLY NEWFAGGOTRY
>>58307952I don't know what the issue is but if the hivemind is mad then I'm mad as well.
>>58308861Jesus the retarded hyperbole in this brown ass thread. Hundreds of takes, really?
>>58308653Kanji game and Chillas kusoge just seems like a step up from their last schedule for me, maybe not in actual quality but surely in popularity.
>>58308840FWMC raided into it after FWMC morning
>>58308840so Shiori is the runt after all
>>58308074>>58307980>>58308188How are any of you surprised about this?They were in the Twitch circle for 2 years before Cover finally let them in to EN3.Why abandon your already semi-famous friends now that you're a bit more famous than them.
>>58308840Dogs probably redirected their FWMC Morning stream?
>>58308810They were going to add an EN cuckbox but got rid of it when they found out everyone except Mumei was going to be put in it
>>58308853>>58308861I didn't listen to her unarchived karaoke and her monetization one was mehis it really that bad
>>58308916>>58308931That would explain it, thanks.
>>58308840Wow, look at Shiori making many times more money than all others put together.
>>58308910wasn't nerissa an Opera singer or something? The idea that she can't sing well unless recording is laughably stupid.
>>58308891problem?
>>58307952Nerissa is on a quest to fuck every female vtuber in the west
>>58308652if 2021 ollie means high subs growth then that's pretty much her goal.At least this time she would be actually in control of her content which is shorts, rather than depending on e-celebs that lead to the pump&dump and 2023 ollie.
>>58308926Fauna used to the runt tho
>>58308623Haachama sub...
iirc Nerissa mentioned asking Fauna is they could build a Nest as her home in her world tree in MC so Fauna-advent MC collabs soft confirmed already.
>>58308927>Why abandon your already semi-famous friends now that you're a bit more famous than themAlmost all HoloEN did, she's one of the exceptions.
>>58302166Anon, it doesn’t count because she still isn’t streaming. If you stream as little as Gura does and your fans complain, they will always be right, no matter how much you try to explain yourself.There is literally no excuse for Gura’s lack of streams, and she keeps giving excuses. What about deciding to ignore her excuses and keeping bitching at her is “weak”? You can argue it’s retarded, a waste of effort, etc., but deciding to harass a streamer for not delivering on her promises is not “weak”, because it takes way too much effort.
>>58308996I mean the runt of Advent
>>58308996In a gen with Sana and Bae? Hell no.
>>58301805>More Fauna Starfieldits tuesday
>>58308826then you should wish for Marine to fail too since she's basically doing the same thing with her tiktok trends and shorts growth
>>58308753Here's the forecast
>>58308996not even remotely
>>58308080I can respect people who don't want to leave their friends behind when they make it big at least, but it's a very fine line.
>>58309002Cute UNITY kirin
>>58308927Ah you're that kind of people who does those IRL vs Vtubers tag, retards who couldn't separate different identities.
>>58308927nigga she's in Hololive now, she should ditch them or at least not talk to them publicly like all the other members
DORIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>58309043>Fauna streaming on Tuesdaydyrbi
>>58309063Le retard de Uruha Rushia...
>>58309132Roa...
>>58308927here let met spell it for you: as a hololive they are strangers. nobody is preventing her from using her personal account for this.
>>58309132Mayuyu...
>>58308991>if 2021 ollie means high subs growth then that's pretty much her goal.2021 Ollie is more than "high subs growth", it is "high subs growth from an audience not interested in the daily content put out by the vtuber" and that's the exact same audience that watches shorts, as proven by filian, Rin Penrose and Akemi, none of which found any permanent incline from doing it.Here is the "#shorts plan"1. put shorts out2. get lots of views and subs3. ???4. profit!Step three is definitely not any direct revenue from the shorts itself nor the conversion of the shorts audience into regular audience.What is it then?
>>58309063Wow when did Mori hit 1 million if Festival got there before her?
>>58309132how did you find it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSokgwwYF7sNo wonder Hajime got 35k
>>58309132All of these will graduate next year, except Aqua
finally watched Hajime's zatsu and all I can say that the only chuuba harder to understand than her is Amamya
Council showcase dates should be announced this week.
>>58309132>Hima getting over 20kDamn, when was the last time that happened?
>>58309055b-but Japanese tourists g-good
>>58309248I wonder if that's how Mumei sounds to ESLs
>>58308537>Only non-HoloEN collabs with ID shittersShe's working her way up from lowest ccv Holos - 1st Ollie, now Iofi. Next Risu or Anya
>>58308810What purpose would it serve beside making them look like a black company AFTER IPO? You can’t force growth
>>58309326mumei sounds clear enough to me
>>58305564>growth last 30 days 0>dumbass lecturepeople just sick of ogaleech
RINGOCHADS WW@
I don't care if Lap wants to stream only on twitch, I just wish she didn't have such a shitty attitude.
>>58308961She said she was in a choir for years and got a lot of solos while doing it.
>>58309202her end goal is step 2the money is from Cover bonuses as they actually has subs as KPI.money/revenue is the lowest priority for laplus.As for Cover, more views+subs means more leverage at negotiating sponsorship deals.Which is basically the YT shorts meta that has been working for thousands of YT shorts creator these past few years. post viral shit and shills product every other posts.
>>58309332So Robocco collab soon.
>>58309132Aqua....
>>58309388
>>58309108>>58309003That's what I mean, being in Holo isn't THAT big of a deal anymore on the EN side, like it was during Myth early days.>>58309094the fuck are you even talking about? Get off twitter more often dweeb.>>58309175That would be reasonable if they still used the other accounts.
>>58309332raspberry queen Reimu soon too
for what it's worth lapras is being transparent and receptive to fan feedback
>>58309132>upd8>AnimarePaging all Vtuber archeologists. How popular were upd8 and Animare in 2019?
No Fauna today...
>>58309055I never said I like it. Hololive going mainstream in general has always been a bad thing, but at least Marine remains likeable and works with the box and for her fans, not in spite of it and them.
>>58309248Mumei doesn't have a lisp/weird accent, she just has a tendency for words to tumble into one another and swaps topics on a dime.
>>58303707What does any of what you say matter anyway? Laplus doesn’t want to stream, firing her would make the company look bad, so go ahead and let her use her channel as a testing ground for the shorts meta. This isn’t EN during the long drought, there legitimately are enough JP girls to tolerate shitters like Laplus and use them for experiments like this.The point of testing out Laplus’ shorts meta isn’t that the company can copy it if it works. It’s so they can take to very different channels like Marine and Laplus, compare what they did the same and differently, the extent to which they inclined, and any nuances in the shorts strategy they might want to recommend if it looks promising.Because future girls who try doing more shorts are probably not going to act like either Marine and Laplus, and data from this “experiment” could help.>tldr: what else is Laplus’s channel good for?
>>58309390Have the JPs really been ok with her >I refuse to call anyone senpai.shit to begin with, or did they complain about it? I'm kind of curious now.
>>58307952EN Ollie.
>>58309448I love my drinkin', smokin' hagwife.
>>58309390you just want to be upset at something anon
Where's the raspberry tally?
>>58305871ao's going to be buffed by minecraft and micomet, also could be an okayu case if her singing ends up being the best out of regloss
>>58307135No you don’t understand, she like streaming because she doesn’t have to think about writing song when she does
>>58309326I can understand Moom well enough. Bae and Sana however filtered me with their aussiespeak.