/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

you have no power here, this is a hololive board

You can take Shiori too

>>58200444
IRyS works better as a slut in Hololive.

>>58200525
Hololive can afford to share

>>58200444
You don't even have to hide your boyfriend

>>58200444
Might as well invite Ame and Shiori too

>>58200444
Not enough splatoon

>>58206160
Lol no, TOTAL VTUBING DOMINATION

>>58200444
Flare and Noel will correct her, go throw a dart at your EN roster for your next graduation plan

>>58200525
RLY?

She already isn't hiding her slut level so being in vshojo will only net her less talent freedom

>>58207728
Who? Where?

>>58200444
If VShojo takes IRyS, they're gonna have to take Towa, Marine, Gura, Calli, Ame, Kroni, Matsuri, Chris, Shion, Choco-sensei, Chloe, Lui, La+, Risu, and Nerissa. I want to put Shiori here too just based on her design.

Anyway, you can see the mess that will cause if IRyS has to go. So let's not go down this road. It's already pretty comfy with IRyS being Hololive's slut. Vshojo has the entire industry to pull talent from, not just Hololive. There's plenty of Indies and Nijis that would be a better fit than IRyS or any other of Hololive's sluts.

For starters, why not MilkyWayz, or Koopa, or Shylily?
And if you want to balance it to be a little more competitive in terms of seiso-ness, why not go for a more wholesome talent like Neurosama? Her unhinged attitude would be equally as yabai as the other girls, but still 100% adorable and cute.

>>58214050
you speak so many words

>>58200444
Hahahah where is this come from anon

>>58200865
Its really saving her sub 6k average and sub 300k music covers!

vshojo is an idol and backpack company now

>>58214050
I agree with most of those.
But is Towa really slutty? I thought she hated that kinda shit judging by the fallout from the slutMV

It's really funny when anyone tries to shitpost about IRyS, she's probably one of the best at avoiding drama

>>58200444
is this irys girl worth getting?

>>58200444
Leave my wife alone you son of a bitch

>>58214346
She absolutely despises it.

>>58214220
go back to your hole, number monkey.

>>58214145
This isn't twitter.
Tell Hiro to lower the text limit if it bothers you that much.

>>58214346
>I thought she hated that kinda shit judging by the fallout from the slutMV
Quick rundown?

>>58215142
Bluntly said that "That's not Towa." before quickly moving on from the topic on top of complaining on her roommate

>>58215218
What slutmv? The bathing suit one that had Fauna and Kroni?

>>58200444
shitty bait thread #235476897865234567869

>>58214346
She kinda comes off as a gyaru or rocker type girl/normie. She doesn't really actor look like an idol, more like an indie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=novg1O_Z-LU

This is kinda slutty...

>>58215592
Yeah, that one for holosummer.
>>58215670
I don't even know where you people get these impressions.
>>58215793
She filed a takedown claim for this model as well.

>>58214050
I dont talk to chatgpt anon

>>58200444
I respect your decision gun-sama, but she's doing great with me now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVINyEymaaY

>>58215912
>I don't even know where you people get these impressions.
Just from the way she talks/carries herself. She just comes off as confident outgoing sexy girl. Compared to other hololive members who sound and act like they hide in a dark closet all day and are scared of talking to people. Towa just seems like one of those cool/popular/hot girls.

>>58216092
Yeah, me.

>>58216235
Towa wishes she was lmao

>>58216235
stfu faggot. Go fuck a hooker or something.

>>58216290
Hot

>>58216306
What does that have anything to do with what we're discussing? She doesn't seem like a shy girl. She's not afraid to collab or meet new people. And she adds energy to whatever is going on and participates where as other members would stay quiet. She's practically the same level of social-skills as Marine or Suisei imo. Maybe even a little more easygoing/chill than Suisei.

>>58216454
Good social skills aren't equivalent to someone being the things you've mentioned in the past, especially with how you said she doesn't act or look like an idol

>>58200444
Begone homobeggar

>>58216561
If you didn't already know she was in Hololive you would think she was an Indie. Her design is more edgy/modern than usual, the way she sounds is more honest and doesn't sound like she's trying to fake a kawaii personality. That basically paints a picture of a gyaru or rocker girl. Yeah she's not sleeping around but you kind of imagine a girl who's confident, sexy, and outgoing. Gyarus and rocker-type are the first things that come to mind, and...well...it's hard not to lump her in with them even if she's not a genuine slut. She seems like she's in a rock band. And girls like that are known for being rebellious and outgoing with their sexiness. That doesn't mean she's a prostitute. But she doesn't act like what you'd normally expect from a traditional idol.

Irys hates trannys though

>>58215076
I am currently biking through a tunnel, screaming

>>58216862
She loves traps

>>58217415
your point?

>>58207728
Funny you say that, but the two with openly confirmed boyfriends are no longer in vshojo.

>>58216759
And I'm saying that these are very basic first impressions of her especially when it's known she loathes being involved with sexy things. She's more honest and not faking a personality, but the rest is basically fan fiction about her based off her initial design. The entire gimmick of her and her design is gap moe of how she doesn't match really any of the initial impressions you were given.

>>58216235
Yeah but how the fuck does that make her slutty?
Not following your line of logic here

>>58217649
I'm just going everyone else's extremely loose definition of 'slut'. You guys don't seem to have a problem with calling Ironmouse a slut, considering she'll basically die if she's in the same room with another human being. That's the definition I'm going with. It's a meme at this point. When people say 'slut' on /vt/ I don't think they mean actual prostitutes. Just confident sexy girls saying whatever they feel like. In which case Towa and plenty of other girls in Hololive also fit this definition.

An example of NOT sluts with this loose definition in mind (and closer to what we'd expect from a traditional idol) would include members like Watame, Mumei, Ina, Pekora, Sora, etc. They obviously act more like 'idols' than Calli, Towa, Marine, or Matsuri. So basically, you're either an idol or a slut. But that's jsut going by the silly meme definition. None of them are actually sluts. But then again neither are most Vshojo members and everyone seems to be fine with calling them sluts anyway.

>>58218360
In fact, the only genuine slut in vshojo if you're REALLY trying to force the definition could probably be Fruit, and that's ONLY if we take gossip/rumors as fact. But just from the way she acts on stream, I would say she's absolutely the furthest thing from a slut and much closer to a traditional idol with how feminine and softspoken she is.

The actual genuine 'sluts' like Veibae and Silvervale have already left vshojo, and lets be honest, they're not really sluts. They only act like them for the streams. They're both strictly one on one only, no cheating. They don't just sleep around with anyone, only the guy they're dating. They're not genuine sluts.

>>58218360
>You guys don't seem to have a problem with calling Ironmouse a slut, considering she'll basically die if she's in the same room with another human being
Her sickness is literally the only thing stopped her from taking dicks 24/7. She slutted it up like crazy when she was still able to. Did you forget her infamous cumshot to the eyeball story? Or are you a tourist who doesn't even know that much?

>>58207728
You mean me? Or are you going to start spewing shit about her rigger whose artstation and twitter say he's in canada?

>>58218360
stop typing essays you fucking schizo

>>58217415
Trap is a cute feminine boy who knows he is still a boy who men want to fuck. Tranny is a mentally ill man who thinks he is a woman that no one wants to fuck. They are nowhere near the same.

>>58218984
>Did you forget her infamous cumshot to the eyeball story?
No. Got a link?
>Or are you a tourist who doesn't even know that much?
I don't really keep up with Vshojo, I just know you guys like to be extra mean to them for some reason. And from what I've seen of them, they don't really deserve the hate. Just because they're outspoken or not a virgin doesn't make them sluts.

>>58219264
>I don't really keep up with Vshojo, I just know you guys like to be extra mean to them for some reason.
Tourist confirmed. You probably should've asked why /vt/ regards Vshojo the way it does before you wrote an essay kek

>>58219148
I'll type as much as I need to get the point across. This isn't twitter. And I haven't done anything schizo-ish. You guys are the ones freaking out about Towa being compared to Vshojo. I haven't even made it a negative comparison, but you're interpreting it as some kind of personal attack. You guys are the ones calling Vshojo sluts.

>>58219389
Only Veibae, Silvervale, and Melody lean heavily into the sluttier stuff, and it's mostly just roleplay or teasing their viewers. Ironmouse isn't known for overly sexy stuff like those girls. Same with Fruit or the other girls.

And I don't get why you would watch them 24/7 if you hated them so much. How many hours do you need to have watched in order to not be a tourist? I've watched Veibae for a good bit since she was my favorite of the bunch, and most of the complaints about her are overblown and catty. Yeah, she can act like a mean girl, but it's usually not without reason, just misplaced.

"Come home Gura. You dont have to stream here"

>>58200444
>IRyS's middle school tier innuendos are the same thing as describing your periods, taking cumshots to the eye, and being a literal camwhore
She isn't even the sluttiest in HoloEN, at least she didn't accidentally admit to being a tinder whore like Bae.

>>58219714
Honestly think she would fit right in, but she'd be more depressed and drunk all the time, not to mention much more prone to getting bullied. I think Hololive might be a good thing for her since she should have a theoretically stronger support group with lots of rules and protections.

>>58219907
>accidentally admit to being a tinder whore like Bae
clip?

>>58219907
You just described Bae
Bae is purer than IRyS
The tinder moment was never real because the heart rate is right there for everyone to see

>>58219907
That's not being a literal slut though. They're just more open to discussing their experiences. They're not actively going around sleeping with anyone. Meanwhile we've caught IRyS redhanded sexually harassing her members live on stream by holding their hands and giving them R18 doujin-tier lewd massages.

I'm joking about that last part btw. But I still don't think vshojo is nearly as slutty as everyone likes to say they are. Mel and Veibae, maybe. But Silvervale, and Ironmouse, nah. Even if they've taken cumshots, it was still only with one guy. I don't know about Ironmouse's case, but if I had to guess I would assume it was with a boyfriend. That still doesn't make them sluts. A slut sleeps with everyone. A rgular girl only sleeps with her boyfriend. She would need multiple lovers at the same time to be considered a slut or go through a new boyfriend every couple of weeks/months.

>>58219907
>Manager-kuuuuuuuuuuuuuuso
If you want a real form of accidental admission then IRyS has actually done it

>>58219714
I think she manages that pretty well in Hololive already.

sluttiness is only enjoyable in a seiso context. Otherwise it's just boring 3D woman

I cackled like a retard

>>58220198
>giving them R18 doujin-tier lewd massages
literally in your head schizo

Didn't Kson say she'd leave if she got more money

>>58220285
>I think she manages that pretty well in Hololive already.
damn, anon...too real

>>58220237
>being assigned a male manager by her company and not wanting to admit it during the height of the schizo unicorn temper tantrums caused by girls collabing with Tempus
>slutty
How?

>>58207728
Yeah, me

>>58220198
>Silvervale
literally posts MMD porn of her model to her patreon

>>58220420
Kun is used between two affectionate people

>>58220379
Jeez anon I said immediately right after that I was joking about that. And you're calling me the schizo?
Lighten up lol. IRyS is practically my oshi.

>>58219408
Faggot

>>58220561
Then why bring up your delusions in the first place?

>>58215218
>on top of complaining on her roommate
I'm too lazy to look. What was the issue the sexual stuff? Becuase it sounds like a bunch of thigns are now happening the girls aren't happy with and I can only assume it's due to shareholders wanting the coomer market. Which seems at odds with them pushing male collabs. I admit I have no idea what the fuck cover is doing, but it's weird to hear multiple cases of girls complaining about having to do certain things all of a sudden.

>>58220500
It can be, but it doesn't always imply romantic interest.

>>58220562
Vtubers should bring happiness to people's lives. We shouldn't be stressing out or losing our shit over them. I don't understand some of the hate they get. Sometimes they'll say dumb stuff or act silly, but it's usually not that harmful as people seem to make it out to be. there's no need to treat vtuber companies like video game console wars.

>>58200444
I regret ever making this edit.

>>58216454
>Maybe even a little more easygoing/chill than Suisei.
How isn't Suisei chill?
She's polite and respectful, I've never seen anything to imply she would be difficult to be around as long as you don't mind some of her quirks that wouldn't even be directed at you.

>>58219193
ah yeah, shemale porn, famously not popular at all

>>58220638
People got mad when I called 'Towa' a slut, but I didn't mean like a genuine slut. Just the loose definition that seems to be applied to confident sexy girl vtubers (like half of vshojo and some Indies). That was literally it. There was no animosity or anything. Towa is great.

Maybe we shouldn't call people sluts if we don't like it.

>>58200525
They literally have the top 2 earning ex hololive chuubas

>>58200444 (checked)
this meme will never not be funny

What happened in Nijisanji now?

>>58218730
>In fact, the only genuine slut in vshojo if you're REALLY trying to force the definition could probably be Fruit
LMAO you're trying to imply a literal sex worker isn't a slut. Or is Melody so dull you forgot she existed?

>>58220857
Oh no, I meant Suisei has a more professional/competitive vibe about her, that might come off as a little more intimidating than someone like Towa. Like if I was in a room with Towa and Suisei, I think I would have an easier time striking up a conversation with Towa. I'd be more intimidated by Suisei and worried about screwing up in front of her. Towa feels like one of the boys, almost. Suisei is like that really hot girl straight-A student you have a crush on but are too chicken to talk to her even though she seems nice.

>>58200444
hololive doesn't mind, they have noel after all

>>58221065
she's a slut (non-derogatory)

>>58221065
>Or is Melody so dull you forgot she existed?
M-maybe...Sometimes I forget she's in vshojo lol. When I think Vshojo, its usually Ironmouse, Veibae, Silvervale, Nyanners and Fruit that first come to mind.

>>58221151
Based.

>>58221065
I have 100% more respect for mel than any other whoretuber out there cause she goes all the way with it instead of just skirting the boundary with softcore porn twitter posts and models. If your oshi wants to be a whore, go all the fucking way with it

>>58221193
>>58221065
For a camgirl she's actually kind of seiso (FOR A CAMGIRL LOL). Does she even get naked? She doesn't even have any fake cum physics or anything. Meanwhile you have someone like CodeMiko who looks like she's getting a bukkake live on stream every so often. Mel's lewd content is too softcore, I'd barely even consider it that lewd if she wasn't half naked and moaning during them. The sounds and stuff that comes out of IRyS's mouth randomly are much more erotic.

>>58221092
Suisei is talkative and you would probably talk with her easy if you speak Japanese.

>>58220982
And that relevant why again? Even nazuna want to bail out. Vshojo is just ironmouse at this point. There no standout aside from kson.

>>58222068
who collabed with Ina recently, i forgor

>>58213403
>Sticky for both holo debut day
>no sticky for whoever debut for vshojo
I guess that a yes.

>>58222230
Oh yea i forgot about her. I always thought vshojo have 2 jp.

>>58221532
She does on chatrubate

>>58222360
I want to see her get bukkaked. Just masturbating onstream is not enough. She's a bit too tame for an anime camgirl.

>>58222846
Not to mention, think of all the cool stuff she could do with her virtual stages like getting captured by tentacles or defeated by goblins/orcs. Or having a bunch of AI NPCs standing around watching her. Anything. It could be way more interesting.

>>58207728
I prefer to stay hidden

>>58222846
bukkake is actually against Chaturbate TOS

>>58220410
today is the day, chumbud, cheer up.

I wonder, who out of Hololive would actually benefit of being a free agent/VShojo? And I'm not talking about
>SEX, SEX, INNUENDO, PORN, BOYFRIENDS
But mostly like content wise or what goals they have in mind, etc. Now they have tasted the "glory" of being a holomem

>>58219907
spoonfeed pls

>>58221510
>>58221532
Mel is actually very cute and entertaining in normal streams, her laugh and mannerisms are adorable.

>>58223777
There are always pro and cons. Holo has a lot of pros and it's difficult to see behind the curtain so I'd say all of them are fine where they are.

>>58224209
>>>58221510
>>>58221532
mel and fefe are my two fav wholesome whores

Also mel is not getting pimped by her corpo like holo girls. she takes the whole bag for her self. there i said it.

>>58223310
thats a oddly specific rule

>>58223310
>>58224550
What a shitty rule.

>>58223777
maybe being in hololive is actually good

>>58223434
>"think before you say somethign stupid"
IRyS wouldn't be able to stream anymore. Are you sure you want that?

>>58200525
Based
>>58220982
>Ex
Exactly

>>58220087
NTA it was part of her Amnesia streams, iirc her and Fauna said something when they found a tinderbox.

>>58200444
Genuinely what can Vshojo offer that Hololive doesn't? Essentially when Vshojo is a bigger dead end musically than where she currently is atm.

>>58224966
C O M P L E T E
T A L E N T
F R E E D O M

>>58219714
Holobros, is Gura okay? I keep seeing posts about her going MIA all the time.

>>58200525
>hololive board
>thinks a VShojo fan made this thread
Self-awareness of an earthworm.

>>58224966
+Owning your IP is very valuable
+No management breathing down your neck, no need to wage permission wars
+Can create pretty much whatever content she wants and create whatever model or image she wants
+ligger and vshojo models tend to be higher quality than holo ones (holo is improving a bit lately)

-very likely less money and viewers
-no holobox (collabs, hologra, reduced fangames -animations)
-fewer concerts and no infrastructure
-big risk of leaving behind your IP
There's probably more that I can't think of right now but in general Vshojo is far more attractive to indies than Holomem so I wouldn't think too much about it unless there's a graduation.

>>58226020
I hope he paid you to post this nonsense

>>58226192
>a nuanced view is nonsense
ok

>>58214050
Does Koopa even stream anymore? I haven't heard that name in at least a year now.
Its still kind of odd that two of their recent additions Haruka and Geega before the Henya schizo has a meltdown were people that get way less views than the rest of them, almost like it's just to pad the roster.
Kinda surprised they haven't changed their mind on Snuffy yet.

>>58226225
Your claim about vshojo being more attractive than holo is complete bullshit. If you make it into the blue dorito you'll be set for life.

>>58226964
NTA but he was asked to give the pros and cons and most of the ones he gave are the actual differences between the two agencies / companies that we're aware of with a but if subjectivity on some of the peripheral stuff. He didn't say "VSHOJO GOOD HOLOLIVE STINKY".

Also I love these bait threads because it shows just how little you faggots know about VShojo but you're always so sure of everything you say being true. It's hilarious and adorable.

>>58226964
I didn't make that claim at all.

>>58220699
Towa despises being involved with lewd/horny baiting and she basically said, "I hate that people like a me that isn't me"

>>58227320
you literally said it in your last line

>>58227333
>"I hate that people like a me that isn't me"
Thats cute and wholesome.

>>58226964
If holo was that attractive, give me one chuuba with an average 5k viewership stopped and joined them ?

Holo is good for nobodies, it give careers to nobodyes that's what a corpo is.

Vshojo is good for an already established indie

>>58227430
Please read again, carefully this time.
I say that Vshojo is more attractive for indies compared to how attractive it is for holomem, not that Vshojo is more attractive for indies than Hololive.

>>58226020
Literally none of that is coming from vshojo themselves. All you get is a pink logo next to your name and management to help you with some administrative stuff and possibly legal troubles. Everything you listed are things that indies already have.

>>58227791
That's a comparison for Vshojo and Holo as the anon asked. If you compare Vshojo with indies, they have more advantages in my opinion.

>>58220500
Learn Japanese.

>>58227791
And yet indies join agencies routinely, whether it is VShojo, MSM, or Mythic. Being an indie without support is mental suicide. Every big indie talks about how much it sucks to do shit on your own.

>>58227333
>"I hate that people like a me that isn't me"
And yet she denies us her pure sex, natural voice. Curious.

VShojo literally only has sloots, hooores, and Kson

>>58230465
She's been harassed about her natural voice for nearly 15+ years, and even now when she sings, people complain about her. She's not a mentally strong woman.

>>58230766
Anon, people on this board keep saying they love her actuall voice instead of the nasal one she puts on to appeal to low T Japanese. She needs to pay attention to us instead of them.
I hate Japanese (except Towa).

>>58230923
This is the same board that calls Towa a smoker consistently for how she sounds.

>>58230972
A vocal minority who are no doubt troons jealous of her voice.

IRyS is my pure idol wife so no

>>58221532
Is code miko whorey? Does she do lewd fapworthy stuff outside of twitch?

>>58223777
Everyone's always rrating that Nina from Niji is eventually joining because of her projects getting canned and the corpo restrictions fucking with the direction she wanted to take her content. So basically if there's anyone in EN who has had similar clashes with management would probably do well outside. Though the appeal of outside would also have to be greater than the appeal inside as people generally tolerate less-than-ideal jobs so long as it doesn't cross the line into outright abusive and because of the uncertainty that comes with leaving.

>>58216759
What the fuck are you talking about? her RM literally dresses like a granny and in personality she is super prude probably the most prude Holo.

>>58218360
>An example of NOT sluts with this loose definition in mind (and closer to what we'd expect from a traditional idol) would include members like Watame, Mumei, Ina, Pekora, Sora, etc.
>Mumei
>Ina
Roru rumao even

>>58231340
Think she used to be a stripper or gogo dancer or something (not sure, but she used to do a lot of sexy stuff wearing very little on camera before codemiko, also lewd modeling). She has a pole installed in her room and she is (or at least used to be) very good at poledancing. She's gotten a bit out of shape ever since she started streaming but occasionally she did do a quick twirl on it during a stream. There are youtube videos if you want see; search for codemiko technician poledance. She's like kson where she switches between her vtuber model and roomate.

But aside the silly sexy stuff she does a lot of hard work for her streams. She does the 3D modeling, she adds the hair physics, she does the mocap stuff herself and helped develop a lot of its technology herself with the programming, she had to learn Unreal and VR implementation. She's kinda like a 'sluttier' version of Suisei in terms of doing things herself. Again, using 'slut' very loosely lol. She doesn't sleep around or anything.

>>58232351
Okay, maybe Mumei and Ina are not exactly idols, but they're not exactly yabai either.

>>58219643
Whatever you say vshojo intern

>>58226020
what are you smoking?

>>58232615
>VShojo intern
>can't spell Froot's name right

>>58233268
Nothing.

>>58219193
same mentally ill faggot, fucking kys subhuman freak

>>58227791
That's the point.
VShojo (and other non-Japanese agencies) offer support without restriction.
You get all the freedom of being indie without the headaches of having to run your own business.

>>58234677
Most agencies run like the Japanese ones though. I know VShojo's not the only one who lets people keep their stuff, but it's definitely not the norm

>>58236013
Most vtuber* agencies, yes
VShojo follows the pattern of regular talent agencies

>>58232382
It's surreal seeing just how far she's come. From just a random cam streamer doing "pole dancing exercises" to putting on a tens of thousands of dollars mocap suit for interactive streams.
Still remember her breaking down the cost to do what she does how she has to pay tens of thousands (annually?) to rent the mocap suit, plus the cost of using Maya, plus all the assets she has to buy in Maya, plus living in commiefornia in a decent apartment with a pet.
Of course that was way back when she was first getting her footing with this model instead of the weird looking one she used first.
Back when she was talking about making an account on Chaturbate and doing shows just to pay for this suit that she took a gamble on.
Kinda sad we didn't get to see that, she talked about some 3D modeling job she had where she had to make a fully functioning vagina so she knew how to give the Miko model a working one.

>>58232382
she sounds cool on paper but her personality is pretty bland

>>58226708
Snuffy was scouted, Snuffy shot them down. Snuffy doesn't want to join Vshoujo and wants them to hire more indies. Instead they hire their own friends

>>58247443
>Snuffy was scouted, Snuffy shot them down
This is the exact opposite of what happened
She put in for the auditions, made it fairly far (possibly the final round) and got turned away

>>58220982
And how much are they making now?
Vshojo is a talent graveyard

>>58247443
I remember her talking about it in discord one day
>scouted
>all she really had to do was send in an application
>smoked a bunch of weed the night before and forgot
>sent the application in late because of this
>they accept it regardless, but she's not chosen as a member
evidently it crushed her, she's in competition with mouse for most models in a year with a new one soon

>>58232382
This slant eyed slut doesn't do shit for herself. It's literally all her boyfriend doing it for her behind the scenes.

>>58256545
would vshojo allow her to have a pregnant model though? her breeding fetish is severe

>>58200444
stay away from her you fucking drama whores

>>58256545
This is so incredibly made up lmfao are you sure you're not the one who's been smoking? Snuffy didn't send her application in on time because she procrastinated sending one in early because she was nervous, then halfway through the application period she fell violently ill and her streaming became sporadic from mid-September (application closed September 30th) until November. Since she'd been very public about her sickness at the time they let her send it in late.