/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

No one cares

>>5799416
eh, it's a pretty big deal

Poor Gura

Gura could quit Hololive and go indie

the old guard its over, this is the begin of a new era

Poor Ai

>>5799491
It's really not, kizuna's career doesn't hinge on her channel anymore and she doesn't even try to hide it, even if you like to masturbate to numbers the rate of growth from gura is a bigger deal than surpassing someone who's not growing anymore

>>5799605
The old guard has been over for a while now. Most of those subs are from years ago.

>>5799605
They've been since nijisanji changed the meta

>>5799255
What website is this? I can't find one that shows exact numbers like that instead of increments of 10k

>>5799605
So what exactly changes? Not like gura will aknowledge this in any way unless she feels forced to from chumbuds acting like retards online

>>5799255
>some idiot is actually streaming this

>>5799659
>It's really not, kizuna's career doesn't hinge on her channel anymore and she doesn't even try to hide it
I'm sure AI won't be going bankrupt the moment Gura surpasses her in subcount, and she's still the most mainstream name in vtubing, but you have to wonder if her current status of getting sponsorships left and right is going to last when she barely has an audience anymore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsxRu646CWk

92k views in 4 days for her latest MV and many of her latest videos not even cracking 100k views after weeks is not a good sign for someone who is mainstream and known to normies. No one is watching her content anymore even if she appears on TV and ads. I'm sure the money she's getting is still nice, but I'm not sure how long it'll last.

>>5799578
>implying she wasn't indie beforehand

>>5800002
link please?

>>5799976
Nothing because she isn't even changing how things work on the industry, she's just getting a bigger number

>>5799255
Aren't the last 4 digits made up?

>>5800031
>No one is watching her content anymore even if she appears on TV and ads
No one is watching her anymore because she switched to TV and ads, youtube is the side gig now and has been for a good while

>>5800031
People who don't give a fuck about vtubers still think of kizuna when they hear it and that's what's paying her bills, she doesn't need to succeed on her channel because no matter how popular someone else becomes she's still the face of vtubers

>>5800074
Jesus Christ, you are retarded

>>5800074
Holy dog shit

based. gura will get to live with imposter syndrome for the rest of her life

I feel bad for Kizuna imagine getting beaten by someone lazy, unoriginal, and boring. But it ez what it ez

>ₕᵤhaʰᵃ thank you for your support guys, I'm so lucky to have you and so many wonderful genmates and senpai, anyway today I'm playing dbd and...

>>5800031
I NEVER see Ai's videos in my recommended anymore, even though I still watch her. Did she do something to piss off YouTube-kun?

>>5799883
It's livecounts.io and they're just guesstimating numbers. Only the channel owners know the exact numbers; the YouTube API only gives up to three significant figures for the public.

I sincerely hope you fucks don't harass kizuna over this.
Fubuki got spammed with shit when Gura 1m so I fully expect chumfucks to do it again.

Chumbuds will have a rude awakening when Gura hits 3 mil subs and their lives are still as empty as before

>>5800458
there's no need since you're going to do it anyway

>>5800444
based gura, not caring about numbers

>>5800458
We all know they will this is Gura fans were talking about here.

>>5800458
You will do it for them anyway kek

>>5800478
Nah, we'll be fine.

>>5800504
I'm actually surprised, always thought she would crumble considering her historic of being unstable

imagine competing for 3m subs most big youtubers have 10m, 20m or more
Those two are in the bottom of the youtube food chain

>>5800458
Kizuna wouldn't give a shit she's a literal corporate mascot.
And of course they will, they get away scot free harassing FBK until her breaking down without a single word from Gura about it.

>>5799491
If Gura were a Japanese VTuber or were fluent in Japanese, then it would be.

>>5800562
I don't care about the no talent shark and think its a huge shame that Kizuna won't get there first, she actually deserves it.

>>5800120
>No one is watching her anymore because she switched to TV and ads, youtube is the side gig now and has been for a good while
You make it sound like she doesn't upload any content at all when she's still putting out Songs, which is the easiest content to get views on if you're somewhat popular. The point of appearing on TV events and ads (apart from the money) is exposure and advertising yourself. She gets more mainstream exposure than any Vtuber from her sponsorships and brand name, but it's not translating into attention on her channel. She's a content creator whose content no one watches, does that make her a VAdvertiser instead?

>>5800164
I'm not disagreeing that she's mainstream and her channel not succeeding won't affect her bottom line. However, if you are truly popular and not just a has-been that people know, then your content would still be hot. There's a lot of celebs that people remember and heard of, but are only known for past achievements from years ago and no one cares about their new content. Her channel is a symptom that Kizuna AI is heading down that path.

>>5800565
she's stupid but not retarded, she's in the best place she can be right now and well aware of that

>>5800608
it doesn't look like you don't care

>>5800608
Idk you sound frustrated tho

If I had to rank the worst kind of posters in /vt/, it would be the following list from worst to tolerable:

>doxxniggers
>dramaniggers
>discordniggers
>numberniggers
>pekoniggers
>shipniggers

Based gura dropping the third nuke

>>5800756
I said I don't care about the shark, learn to read chumkid.
>>5800819
You 12 year olds can't even come up with anything original, you just parrot her like retarded sheep.

>>5800565
It seems like she hates it more than anything, like she's happy where she is and isnt exactly looking for more.

The amount of ESL in this thread speaks volumes.

running in the 90s edit when?

Cumbuds always talked like she'as best singer in hololive when her karaoke song was average at best. Like high-school level
https://youtu.be/dpBJCmYickc

if gura cries at all during coco grad it's an instant leap over ai

>>5800458
>>5800528
>>5800586
Samefag pushing the same old tired rrats from over half a year ago, because they literally don't have anything else.

>>5800949
you've been parroting "muh harrasing" for months already, take your meds already or stop being from the south east of Asia. You'll be the first schizo shitting on Kizuna's stream and everyone knows that

>>5799255
>imagine being this much of a numberfag

I guarantee Gura never brings it up

>>5800565
She cringes everytime someone mentions numbers but she learned to just go with the flow

>>5800636
>does that make her a VAdvertiser instead?
Yes, that's what she is now, her channel certainly doesn't pay the bills

>>5801411
t. Chumcuck

Anons admit that you would be excited if your oshi was in this situation instead of Gura.

>>5801888
What if my oshi is Ai herself?

>>5801939
Wow...finally found one

>>5801888
I really don’t care how many followers Nyanners has.

>>5801196
she won't

>>5799578
>Gura could quit Hololive and go indie
leaving her friends, other fellow holo streamers, and hololive staff that do shit for them 24/7 (from permissions, to arranging shit with companies and artists of various kinds to get shit done) and overwork herself and probably not have 25% of her original output? not gonna happen

this is the problem with numberfags, they care only about one number and forget about the entire context around it

>>5801888
I don't even know how many subs my oshi have

>>5801888
Not my oshi, but if Kiara was in this situations I could see her making an endurance stream to reach #1

GURA I HAVE SEVERE DEPRESSION AND MY DAD IS DEAD LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOO

>>5799255
We shall have a True Emperor....

ITT: seething niggers repeating the same shit while their mouth's foaming.

Imagine if Gura actually tried, you niggers would've overdosed of copium. You niggas should thank Gura being not a tryhard. or else you wouldn't see your oshi again.

>>5799976
>..chumbads acting like retards online
Sounds about right.

>>5802031
Yeah, “friends” that she barely talks to

>>5802102
>or else you wouldn't see your oshi again.
What did he mean by this?

>>5802173
>not knowing about the vtuber deathmatch scene

>>5802121
Do you just read thread only or something?

>>5800002
wtf anon
>>5800000 don't mind me

>>5800458
i will do it, let japan and the entire internet that we CHUMBUDS, are the driving force in the vtubing industry, so join us /vt/ in this historical moment

>>5802102
>Imagine a completely hypothetical situation where my oshi has a completely different personality, seethe

Meds

gura a shit and ugly

>>5801179
Justin Bieber was a highschool level singer when he became the face of pop

>Gura buying subs for Ai

>>5802083
>No sign of the valiant guardsman

>>5803060
>Unironically

Those numbers aren't real though, it's only a guess based on tendencies and expected growth, you won't know Gura has surpassed Kizuna until Youtube itself shows Gura at a number higher than Kizuna
Notably the website is not going to be able to tell if there's been a birthday boost on AI's channel until it's too late

It's not a title Gura ever wanted but I do congratulate her, for reaching an apex and for not letting it totally get to her. With how quickly she reached 1 and then 2 million subs. She remained calm. Which is all she wants.
She's extremely talented and has a great personality for a performer, but she never wanted to be so huge. I think it's pretty easy to see why she has.

>>5801888
If it was Mori, I think she would be even more overwhelmed with trying to meet expectations. When she hit 1 million it created a mindset that she always had to be full-throttle, without an excuse because it's her only job, and she's only more recently realized that she needs breaks for herself. Getting #1 on itunes was crazy enough for her. Taking a first position and holding it would be almost like a curse.

>>5801888
I'm gonna drop my oshi once she hits 1million subs

If she really needed a boost in subs she should have done the obvious and collabed with Hololive more, just saying.

3 million just for having a good design. That's seriously impressive

>>5799255
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuKzt7p-MnM to your numberfagging Chumshart

>>5799801
Sorry to burst your bubble but Nijisanji has never surpassed Kizuna Ai in numbers, legacy, and brand recognition.

Damn gura gonna eat a hag for breakfast

>>5802031
>hololive staff that do shit for them 24/7 (from permissions

You realize indie vtubers or streamers in general don't have to ask permission to play stuff they want to, right?

The whole permission asking is a consequence of being corporate since a registered company earning money off another's product is grounds for legal trouble

>>5799255
EVERYONE SUB TO GURA!! LET'S RECLAIM THE THRONE FROM THIS CHINESE LOVER!!!

>>5799637
I feel worse for Gura

>>5800458
They will Chudbuds have no shame

>>5800458
nousagibros, its our calling.

>>5804810
hi newfriend I'm sorry the dragon that introduced vtubers to you is leaving

This is the beginning of the end for vtube. It's been a good run.

come to think of it, isn't it almost Kizuna Ai's birthday?

Gura is gonna pass her on her birthday.... fate works in strange and cruel ways.

>>5803168
>he really thinks a birthday is going to suddenly give her a 10000% boost in subs

wtf is this?

>>5799416
this
>>5799255
kys cumsharts

>>5805874
all me

>>5805874
im botting for kizuna

>>5800922
What about the tribalniggers

>>5799416
this thread disagrees you seething cuck lmao

>>5805897
cope

>>5805874
history correcting itself

>>5805874
see her subs 3 days ago, and see her subs now. then compare the rate to ~1 month ago

>Cucked Korone from being the first holo to reach 1 million
>Will cuck AI from being the first vtuber to reach 3 million
Same-chan... i kneel...

>>5805874

>>5799255
>Allied with zhangs and vShojo
>still loses

Is this the tourist thread?

>>5799255
>Ai does not even get 20 subs per hour
this is bullying at this point :(

>>5799255
Go blue! Go pink! Go, go, go! Score some points! Wahoo!

gura is the humblest, most sincere vtuber/content creator i know. i dont care of she deserves it or not, i just can't imagine anyone else on the throne.

I'm an extreme nonconformist who never gets into anything because I always end up bored and yet even I ended up basically commiting my life to watching Gura's streams. If she can do that, it's no wonder she mogged all of Hololive and now the OG vtuber.

>>5799255
>predictions
Not even lowest of numberfags use this shit.

>>5799659
Someone post that image of Gura having more search results on tictok than AI...

>>5800331
Anon, didn't you listen to her song?

>>5806837
IS that really something chumbuds want to be proud of?

>>5800444
Nice fanart you got there champ, but to post here you got to be above 18 years old.

>>5806392
Based take for once.

It's good that it's Gura and not some egotistical Vshojo type twitch cunt.

Gura = Cringe

>>5800478
It will be full of tards seething. So not that empty.

>>5806887
Holy shit imagine being this much of a fucking tourist, go back

>>5806862
No point now, she backpedalled so hard on what was very obviously implied on the song because she was scared it would invite more people to dredge up her past.
Now red gura is some haachama tier/schizo evil persona of her.

>>5800598
Cope

>>5806902
Rent-free

>>5806909
She's cute, talented and authentic. Far less cringe than most indies and other westerners out there.

Holy shit cumdupsters are truly the most basic and annoying fanbase, no one except you care about this „race“

>>5806392
Coco or Pekora easily. Mori because she seems to have the best fanbase and they have been using her music in practically everything as well as being some unmitigatedly cool gaijin in the JP girls eyes

>>5806962
>t. jealous numbersagi
If you didn't care you wouldn't have even clicked on the thread, seethe more

>>5799255
Numberfagging is cringe OP

>>5806962
>Gura hits 3M
>Does absolutely nothing with it
>Meanwhile her fanbase shitposts on Kizuna AI boards/channels/forums
>Gura has to pick up the mess yet again"
She really should just start saying some pro-right shit to cull a good % of her viewership

>>5806392
Which is funny because her fanbase is the exact opposite of that

>>5806909
jealousy makes one ugly

>>5806725
Welcome to /vt/ you are here forever, enjoy your stay

>>5806870
No, but copers use the tictok thing as an excuse why AI doesn't focus on YT

Theoretically, if AI wins this arbitrary race no one asked for, would her fanbase be in the right to rub chumbuds nose in it? Would the be better off just ignoring this altogether?

>>5806924
NO U

>>5806925
nice ratt, oggey

>>5807095
>Implying AI got a fanbase on vt...
Kids, this is what tourist looks like

>>5807095
>would her fanbase be in the right to rub chumbuds nose in it?
Anon real chumbuds don't care, these threads are almost entirely made by falseflaggers seething about gura's numbers trying to make her fans look bad because they can't attack gura directly.

> multiple Gura threads to stir dramas
I just hope tourists and newfags don't take those bait threads serious and spread it outside like plagues but it is unlikely.
Who need /jp/ purists when we have plenty falseflaggers and discord raids in /vt/ already.

>>5806962
COPE

>>5807167
Are you retarded, dumb, or just not trying?

>>5807202
Are you trying? AI got no presence on the board

>>5807214
Point to the part in the post where it says anything about this board in particular, you dumb faggot

>kizuna ai's lead has doubled
based

>>5807235
>would her fanbase be in the right to rub chumbuds nose in it?
Faggot

>>5807281
See now i know you're a dumb piece of shit tourist, because not one margin of that string of words is exclusive to /vt/

IMAGINE thinking /vt/ invented chumbuds

>>5799255
based. hololive supremacy
AIfag keep seething

>>5807306
Imagine me caring about shit outside /vt/ and chuubas chat...
Who's the tourist now?

>>5807340
A tribal AND a numberfag, how pathetic.

>>5807495
>tribal
>not hololive

any nijifags here ?

>>5805874
STOP THE COUNT

>>5801888
I only care about the content she's producing and the quality of the chat
So her having a stupidly huge audience doesn't work for me
I love my cute rocket autist

I want to sub AI to 3mil so bad so that poor Gura doesn't get harassed by her fanbase.

>>5801411
Not my fault y’all harassed someone over numbers. Don’t do dumb shit and you won’t get called out for the dumb shit.

>>5805874

biden snake stance

stop the count!

>>5802102
>if Gura actually tried

So you admit she’s boring?

>>5806392
So you’ve only seen one content creator in your life also you do know there are content creators with more than 3 million subs right?

why are chumbuds like this?

One of the large Hololive Discords I entered briefly was organising a massive 3m subscribers mural of personal messages and images, on a fan created website.

Fan projects can be cool, but god damn I hate the clout-chasing faggots who organise them sometimes. Especially on Discord.

>>5802102
Gura put a lot of effort into making her song.
She also has to learn how to sing all of those songs she does in Karaoke.
She's not as lazy as people think.

>>5808223
lol

>>5805874
STOP COUNTING THE SUBS

>>5808263
t.

>>5799255
Honestly? Gura is nice and genuine (if pathologically lazy and apathetic) but she's not the one wanting 3mil subs, her cancerous and insufferable fanbase does, so I don't feel guilty rooting for Ai.

>>5808223
no, she was just winging it. Gura sure has a talent

>>5807904
Huh?
If so where are the apologies from /jp/ shit heads spamming gura chat back then?

>>5801411
Rrat is something that has a noncertain probability of happening, not something that actually happened.

>>5808400
Idk I’m not Japanese go over there and say that to them. Not sure why you’re saying that to me.

>>5805874
The "counter" is completely bullshitting at what their current sub count is.

The only public data from YouTube we have is rounded down to the nearest 10k. Gura has 2.95M while Ai has 2.96M.

If you watched the stream, the counter was getting close to 2.96M for Gura. However, the counter checked the public data for Gura, and saw she hadn't rolled over to 2.96M yet.

So it issued a correction, bumping the counted value down by 1k. That's the giant red spike you see.

TL;DR: The counter is just guessing. You're better off looking at socialblade and guessing based on trends in the last 7 days/30 days.

>>5799255
Thanks for the headsup, just unsubbed Gura. Don't worry I'll sub her again if Ai passed the 3mil mark before her, doing my work however small in supporting the pioneer of modern vtubing.

>>5808567
t. Chang

>>5799255
Thanks for the headsup, just unsubbed Ai. Don't worry I'll sub her again if Gura passed the 3mil mark before her, doing my work however small in supporting the pioneer of modern vtubing

>subs are a metric of success
Do people really want to use this as a measure of success?

It's like Comparing Bill Gates and Pewdiepie, fucking stupid, granted I like both but this is silly, one worked their way up even with corporate sponsorships with shit views per stream/video while the other brought a meme cult with them with a company that just vomits subs and viewcounts yet which one is plastered around in more places?

No, ai chan isn't the top vtuber either changs, I just don't get the comparisons, and truthfully speaking comparing hololive members to each other is just as retarded

>>5808746
t. kapu-min

>>5808483
The point is simple. A lot of retards did retarded things and made screenshots to shift the flames to other people back then. Some were called out, some weren't.
At this point not many people care enough to check it from sources and willingly parrot the narratives and those 8 months+ screenshots for gaslighting the fanbase as an indirect way to undermine the girl.
If you feel proud by helping them to do so then fine.

>>5808519
Today Gura will stream tabletop with Mori, she's gonna pass 2.6 mark

>chumbuds still shifting the blame
pathetic.

>>5808884
>copers still think anyone cares what happened

>>5808884
t. newfag

>>5808746
Dude, stop. It looks like you're taking a giant puff of copium at this point. Bill Gates may has bigger net worth than Pewdirpie, but they're not on the same league.
>But Bill has a YT channel!
He's not a youtuber. It's not his main occupation and they're not competeing on the same league.

>>5805934
we need some action in here

>>5808884
get some new material please

So...when does it start?

>>5799416
I do

>>5800458
i don't even like holoEN but i'm going to do this just to spite white knighting retards like you oh and bro, it's just cartoon

>>5799976
>So what exactly changes?
this does a couple of things to the vtuber community

KAi-> created a miku-like live action vtuber. she was about prescripted clips uploaded to video hosting sites of her mostly goofing around in her 3d rig and singing, basically a quasi fake idol.

~this created a meta of Idol types trying to be vtubers which, despite what Holo-bros want to believe was sorta trashed by Nijisanji who introduced more humorous and adult vtuber streamer stuff. their act was much more twitch then niconico or youtube, but it made some money and was moderately successful, they also introduced gaming to the meta.

-Coco introduced her own meta to the mix... the simpbucks. Prior to coco japanese didn't really tip their vtubers much. It was westerners showering coco with cash that opened the eyes of the japanese vtubers and their fans to tipping content to show support. This helped the whole medium get more $$; so you could argue coco had the biggest impact on the global vtuber scene as she both opened the west to the vtuber "thing" and transformed the economics of it at the same time. Her content wasn't amazingly ground breaking (apart from the English outreach) she definitely played into the Nijisanji bottom-left meta hard.

Gura's meta ~ is actually a more traditional Idol style meta; at least as far as the Japanese are concerned. She's cute and smol which the nips love, and while she can be mischievous she's never mean, and she always tries to leave everyone smiling. She sings as well. She's also funny in a very... seiso manner. Yes she does make crude jokes or say curse words but she usually does it with a lot of innocence and innuendo which can be deniable.

I have Japanese friends from when I was serving in Okinawa, and they tell me Gura is "strong" because she gets huge numbers without being lewd, crude or vulgar, in short she's proof a vtuber can be immensely successful without going bottom left hard. sure there were successful vtubers who were seiso before gura, even in the nijisanji-coco meta, (a lot of them in hololive); but none of them were great successes, either financially or commercially as the idol bros didn't tip like the coco-niji meta fans did (fubuki, korone and pekora didn't see big $$ numbers till gura came along, though they were doing well sub wise).

As for the western market Gura introduced a successful "clean" entertainer to a market that doesn't usually reward clean entertainment on any level. Gamers don't watch streamers who are NICE. People don't watch singers who sing Frank Sinatra and Elvis Presley, or Japanese City Pop (now there is a niche music type). Yet Gura is succeeding spectacularly as a gamer who sorta sucks at games, who's generally clean in content, and who sings very uncontroversial music (country roads? seriously? It's a great slice of red state Americana, but nothing I'd expect a popular youtuber to stream). She also is succeeding in the west using traditional Japanese Moe, something I thought would never happen, in the west a girl needs to show her thong and talk about slinging pussy to get traction; a wholesome young cartoon moe girl never should have taken off in the west. Finally she's made vtubers a much more mainstream thing in the west

>>5809225
>this giant wall of text for nothing
None of this is true or matters. Nothing will change within Gura or Hololive, or the vtuber scene as a whole.

Only thing that will change is that people here will cope with "Wow Gura should be more like X since she's the most subbed vtuber" and that's it.

>>5801888
>digits
i would be happy since my oshi is a huge numberfag and then i'll join her anti to bully her smug face until she cry herself to sleep.

>>5809225
>country roads? seriously? It's a great slice of red state Americana, but nothing I'd expect a popular youtuber to stream
It's a meme you dip.

>>5809225
why are chumbuds like this?

>>5808519
>>5808879
It's also her birthday soon. By her I mean the Kizuner.
It'll be a tight race.

>>5809225
Country roads became a meme...
But everything else you said is true

>>5809438
If Kizuna's concert didn't do anything for her subs, her birthday won't either

so is she gonna get her 3d debut yet? move to japan? put effort to her content?

>>5809493
Which is absurd because her concerts were amazing.

>>5809225

great effortpost

>>5809509
since you are an anti you will never be pleased with anything she does
so keep coping and seething

>>5809631
ah so you're okay with just the same shit she'll do every day until she retires? you're pretty much saying she doesnt give a shit about what she does if she cant even afford a simple set up

>>5809225
Good post. Gura meta best meta.

>>5809695
>She doesn't give a shit unless she moves to japan
Yes, that's a totally reasonable standard to set, and not at all fucking insane.

>>5809252
This is true. It's just another milestone to check off the list, like her recent 1 mil twitter followers.

>>5809521
Vtuber fans don't care for quality, just memes.

>>5799255
>Gura will soon swallow Ai whole and become the top VTuber

who will she consume next?

>>5809949
pewdiepie

>>5809949

the faggot wow streamer

>>5809949
How about me

>>5809138
Fuck, I didn't even watch Samurai Jack that much and I still immediately remembered that worm. I don't know it stuck so much.

>>5809225
>muh seiso
get in the chum jar, retard

>>5799578
Actually she is both indie and a Hololive member this things are not mutually exclusive, she just show no interest in doing her non-hololive stuff since joining and I think it's pretty based.

>>5809493
Wait really? Well shit, maybe her momentum really is dead. That's sad.
I hope things improve for her. She certainly seems to have been increasing her interactivity recently.

>>5808519
>You're better off looking at socialblade
the same socialblade that predicted gura would hit 3M on the 25th? yeah...

>>5810604
She's beyond youtube. She's working with the japanese red cross and environmentalist companies now, among many, many others.

>>5810913
I didn't say look at the predictions by socialblade, I said to look at the trends for the last 7 days/30 days and guess.

Socialblade contains historical data which can be used to make your own guesses.

>>5800583
Vtubers are still a new thing and their audience is still being molded as we speak a lot of Hololive fans never bothered with watching other non-Vtuber streamers before.

>>5799637
Got fucked by management.

>>5811065
>She's beyond youtube. She's working with the japanese red cross and environmentalist companies now

>>5800458
The original kizuna ai is long gone. Who gives a fuck.

>>5811065
Of course she is beyond Youtube. She's in Bilibili as well.

>>5811065
Kizuna AI or the chinese company that broke the deal, took over and replaced her with a chinese seiyuu?

Gura's been at 2.95 for two days straight now. I'm starting to worry...

>>5812080
Try tomorrow. And see if it changes

>>5812059
You're under so many layers of dead rrats that you're not even making sense anymore.

>>5800598
The fact that she's not Japanese but still has a similar ratio of fans as Kizuner means it is a big deal.

>>5799255
>#iofi
What did Lofi ever do to you?

>>5799255
can't wait until gura finally gets explosed for sub botting lmao
guranteeed some chumbuds are paying for subs

>>5805043
You are living in the past.
Many companies already want to who streams and essentially releases their content for free.
They may not care much about smaller streamers, but bigger ones certainly need some form of permission. That's also why on yt content id often blocks vids/channels without licenses.
Some countries also require other licenses so you can stream schedulded content at all, like in Germany.
There is a reason why almost all big channels are teams and solo projects nowadays.

>>5800331
Cool. I want to be the toilet she vomits into when she's having her anxiety breakdowns over not knowing how to meet people's expectations.

>>5810478
Plausible deniability

She will never talk about her pussy or things like that like western female """comedians""", but if you know the reference, you know what she meant with that joke. It's like Shrek's humor. If you are an adult you will notice a lot of jokes that go over the kids heads.

All in all I really enjoy the Gura meta. Even if I'm not a ch*mkek

>>5800598
YWNBJ

>>5813045
What does that stand for?
Sorry, I'm new here.

>>5813303
back to esketit

>>5812587
Be a best girl.

>>5813303
You Will Never Go Back (but you should)

>>5813552
Ah, from this I can surmise it stands for You Will Never Be Japanese
Thank you!

>>5813693
Correct! now go back

>>5812593
repeat it some more maybe it will come true one day

>>5809438
Welp, Gura just got 2.6mil...

LETS FUCKINNNNG GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>5815336
KIZUNA AI IS NO MORE
GURA IS THE NEW REIGNING CHAMPION
LONG MAY SHE RULE

>>5800458
>>5800586
>muh fubuki narrative when it was /hlg/ falseflaggers harassing her
Holy fuck take meds

>>5809225
Absolutely based post
God Gura is so fantastic

>244 replies to a thread about gura passing kizuna in le subs
>meanwhile kizuna & gura don't give a fuck
this is embarrassing and you should feel embarrassed.

>>5816327
seethe

>>5816327
>>5816372
the shrimp train has landed at Normandy....

>>5806392
the only one who deserves it is the one who doesnt want it. shes perfect for the role

A vtuber I've not watched in like 3 years is being overtaken in subs by one who I've only seen the debut of. Truly historical.

>>5801888
imagine not wanting comfy streams to stay comfy

>>5801888
I Bask in my oshi glow not in her numbers, caring about that shit it gay.
>>5816372
you lick the ground of the numbers that female vtubers get you're the one with a mental illness not me. Get medication and walk outside fag-chan.

>>5808519
Man, how did the guy who did Pewdiepie vs T-Series get it so right?

>>5811609
my eggplant wife...

>>5799255
why are you like this? Without AI there is no vtuber industry.

>>5801888
My oshi isn't the highest but she is the best. Fuck you.

>>5818189
Chumbuds don't care. They are literal children.

>>5816007
I find it difficult to believe that chumbuds were innocent when they then proceeded to harass iofi and suisei, and sent death threats to Gura's rigger. Even this thread itself is more proof that chumfucks are just fucked in the head, not to mention the many, many other threads that have been made over the course of months.

You genuinely are the worst fanbase.

>>5812237
wouldn't the fact that she speaks english naturally give her an advantage over kizuna since she can communicate with a larger audience

>>5818799
Watch them deflect and blame their favorite scapegoats because they can't accept the fact that there are shitheads in their community.

Hell, they're raiding various threads on this board alone right now.

>>5818799
>they then proceeded to harass iofi and suisei, and sent death threats to Gura's rigger
Sure man, your November 2020 boogeyman where Iofi received bad comments from chinks and went menhera pinning criticism on her Twitter feed until being called out by a chink. And while the rigger got badmouthed, there weren’t d any death threats, I was there, never saw one
>Even this thread itself is more proof that chumfucks are just fucked in the head, not to mention the many, many other threads that have been made over the course of months
You mean the falseflaggers and number-drama niggers? Ogey
>>5819028
t. SEAnigger

>>5819358
>le chink bogeyman
lmao

>>5819059
Even reddit threads about Gura are always full of extremely passive aggresive people trying to demonize her.

>>5820146
He's right though.

>>5819968

>>5820207
yes, which is why you often hear gura asking not to raid other people's chats

>>5820266
Looks like the average chumbud to me.

>>5801888
She'll be happy since she's a 3 view indie. I won't because then I'm not the only one grooming her.

>>5820314
The average chumbud is chinese? Are you ogey anon?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qCQYkm8pH0

>>5820905
>>5819968
really makes you think

>>5818124
That was before Youtube changed the rules. People unsubscribing in mass as a form of dunking on a youtuber caused Youtube to remove the exact subscriber count and make it an estimate.

>>5820266
Why even engage? Dumb move.

>>5820146
The maybe magician redditard is the idiot on this boards going to every numberfags thread and shitting his diaper crying about a handful of messages made by children over a year. He writes the exact same as his reddit post and the exact same in every post and is either legitimately mentally ill fixated on this or concern trolling.

>>5821579
>shit threads have shit posts in them
Who could have known?

>>5821579
I'm gonna be honest, at this point I'm doing it because it really does get a reaction out of you. Maybe it's chinks, but honestly chumbuds genuinely are primarily made up of children so it might as well have been them. In any case reminding you of the past clusterfucks upsets you and that's good enough for me. As long as the catalog looks as shit as it does right now I will continue my work.

>>5822381
It's ok, success breeds jelousy and bitterness, it's a common human feeling. I'm sure you'll eventually get over it as you grow up.

>>5822381
I mean you aren't really annoying anyone, you are just letting the world know a retarded Reddit user named MaybeMagician has spent hundreds of hours in the past week posting the same stale concern troll on reddit, on 4chan anywhere he can is desperation to make his illness addled brain scrape up dopamine from whatever failed schizo loop you are on to do this for hundreds of hours.

>>5799255
What really counts as a Vtuber channel though?
Pewdiepie had a phase where he became a Vtuber, does he count as #1 since he's got 110M subs?
How about WolfyChu who does it as more than just a gag? She's already got over 3 Million?

Did they have to start out as a Vtuber? because in that case, Gura doesn't count. We all know about (((HER))) some even before she debuted. And that old channel had a lot of subs before she became Gura.

>>5819968
boogeyman*
This isn't fucking golf

>>5821579
actual schizo jesas

>>5823211

>>5823216
By that definition EN only has 2 vtubers and only half of the JPs are vtubers. Compare to pink cat who just uses her old channel for vtubing. Entirely different things

>>5823216
As long as all the subs/views gained on a given channel twitch or youtube are done entirely via a vtubing avatar it counts in my book.

>>5823216
They branding themselves as vtubers and doing it ocasionally rather than once a blue a moon for shit and giggles

>>5812707
what if she gets explosive diarrhea after vomiting haha

>>5806925
>Now red gura is some haachama tier/schizo evil persona of her.
people will forgot about it if gura doesn't pay a single lick of atention (sans the same schizos who got hooked to chammers content this year)

>>5799255
Thanks congratulations. Nothing changes after Gura surpasses her numbers.

>>5801888
I definitelly would be, but i'd be mostly surprised since my Oshi cant even make it past 40k subs. I'd definitelly apreciate the sudden fanart boost of her.

>>5799255
>cumsharts itt think this will impact Kizuna Ai in any way shape or form.
This thread needs to taste some herbs. I recommend sage.

>>5823216
I'd only count subs they accumulated as a vtuber specifically. Some eceleb doing like 1 stream doesn't make him officially a vtuber now any more than driving your honda accord on an F1 track for a day makes it an F1 car. Vtubers, legit ones at least, are purpose-built from the ground up for it.

Of which Gura will be the first one to cross the 3m threshold. Really though if you combine all the numbers in Holo it's several dozen million, although probably like 50% of those are overlaps with people subbing to multiple. It doesn't seem common someone is literally subbed to all of them however so there are I dunno, maybe 10 million uniques in the mix? Who knows.

>>5825912
On glancing at holostats the combined number of all subs of all Holos is currently 42,832,000. I'd honestly compare that figure to some eceleb more than one single vtuber because Holo is in essence an ecosystem whereas someone like pewdie is one single guy at the center of his own universe, as are most ecelebs.

>>5800636
>She gets more mainstream exposure than any Vtuber from her sponsorships and brand name, but it's not translating into attention on her channel.
Yes anon because she advertise the "Kizuna Ai" brand not the Kizuna Ai ch. Like most anon said here, youtube aint her main platform anymore. Think of her as ur normal minstream celebs that has youtube ch. As their side gig. That's what Kizuna Ai nowdays and she admitted it herself.
>She's a content creator whose content no one watches, does that make her a VAdvertiser instead?
In a way you can say this. She mostly doing ads, concerts, attending events, and putting out musics these days. She is no longer a vtuber, she is a Vceleb now. Think of her as Hatsune Miku with fixed personality

>>5807010
This. Make Gura Senzawa Again.

>>5807095
I never seen a Kizuner rub anything to anyone in the past 5 years that I watched her.

>>5826293
I think back when vtubers were /jp/ only a couple shitposters bullied a niji fan pretty hard to the point he held a year-long grudge against her.

>>5809438
Kizuna took three months to gain 10k subs, there's no way she's going to gain 40k in the next 24 hours

>>5808933
Thanks for proving the point. Kizuna Ai dropped Youtube a long time ago and is now focused on concerts, tv shows, and music.
Thanks for playing.

>>5812906
>>5810478
she got that 90's cartoon energy

> ITT Numberfags
Don't you guys have your own thread?

>>5826410
Hmm... Thank God that didn't last.

>>5827970
It evolves into holofags bullying nijiniggers nowdays anon.

>>5826004
https://virtual-youtuber.userlocal.jp/office/all
holopro in total has 44.7M subs.

>>5800444
This only reminds me about idort... haha

>>5799255
NOOOOOOOOO HOW DARE YOU POST NUMBERS! NUMBERS SCARE ME AND MAKE MY BRAIN HURT! KNOWING HOW SUCCESSFUL VTUBERS ARE IS BAD AND MEAN! IF PEOPLE JUST IGNORED NUMBERS AND HOPED FOR THINGS TO GO THEIR WAY THEN THE WORLD WOULD BE A BETTER PLACE!

Hai domo~

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YXrKBdyojI

judging by how it's going she might take the lead during her ttrpg stream tonight. i'm sure chat will be polite and not point it out and distract her.

>>5801888
The last time my oshi started getting huge numbers she hated it.

No thanks.

>>5826656
>ISRAEL
This is definitely up Gura's alley of content.

>>5810913
They were ten days off. Show me a site that made a more accurate prediction. Oh wait, you can't..

>>5834660
this chumbud predicted back in march she'd hit 3mil on july 4th.

pretty accurate I'd say.

>>5799416
fpbp, before this thread dies

>>5800586
>Kizuna wouldn't give a shit she's a literal corporate mascot.
Kizuna barely mentions Upd8 though
Going by that logic, Gura is a mascot to Hololive