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>amelia fan makes pops on rocks
>it blows up
>he spergs out because it becomes famous within holoEN and he's not getting a dime for it
>keeps trying to make Cover pay him for his work
>a few months later Amelia singing it during the charity stream makes him break down completely
>"AAAAA WHY WONT COVER PAY ME FOR MY HARD WORK!?"
>deletes the song from every platform

>coco wants to do a cover of Fansa for the fans
>a bunch of artistically talented tatsunokos show up and help produce it
>she provides the vocals, they provide art, MV, production and mixing
>it ends up a masterpiece and is made in a couple of days
>she begs them to let her pay them
>tatsunokos tell her "no way fag" and refuse to send an invoice

The absolute state of western fans

>> No.5813363

>>5813323
Because unless those Japs the USAchads are not backboneless fags

>> No.5813503

>>5813363
Fuck off Holobass

>> No.5813513

Didn't the pop on rocks guy also use some royalty-free backing track instead of writing his own?

>> No.5813592

>>5813323
You will never be Japanese.

>> No.5813619

>>5813323
Grifters don't speak for the entire fandom. Also look at the Mizuryukei shitsuow. Japan has grifters too.

>> No.5813686

>>5813323
Don't call Holobass's bitchass a fan

>> No.5813739

>>5813686
Wasnt he a ponyfag who jumped on a bandwagon?

>> No.5813770

>>5813323
His beef was that Cover copystriked his music when he put it on spotify not that Cover wasn't paying him. Why did you lie about it OP?

>> No.5813793

>>5813739
Dunno about Holobass. You might be thinking about 2ManySnacks?

>> No.5813828

>>5813323
these guys are literally pros who already earn a steady income with what they do. They can afford to now and then to >do it for free
Holobass on the other hand is just an amateur music producer.

>> No.5813834

>>5813770
>putting something on spotify that infringes on Cover's fan work ToS and the Seuss estates copyright
>is surprised when it gets taken down

>> No.5813850

>>5813770
he was selling the music

>> No.5813895

>>5813850
>>5813834
>"AAAAA WHY WONT COVER PAY ME FOR MY HARD WORK!?"
>WHY WONT COVER PAY ME
Why did you lie?

>> No.5813899

>>5813323
>western women are entitled
Damn anon, discovery of the century, dude you should become a sociologist. Damn, amazing insight.

>> No.5813943

>>5813323
Once again nips prove to the world why their economic mindset is inferior to the European one.

>> No.5813981

>>5813895
>>5813899
Stop cooming, your brains don't work good.

>> No.5813983

>>5813323
I don't think this is as great as you make it out be be anon. A fan doing art or music for the love of their oshi is great and all, but when your fans make an entire music video for you outside of an official contracted work it becomes an issue. It is free labor without compensation and that is something many people already expect of artists for some reason, to do shit "to get their name out there", and never see a cent of it.

>> No.5814045

>>5813793
this is his other channel
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvUtaBeN6_PXtVAaDUcQ-Ug/videos

>> No.5814046 [DELETED] 

>>5813981
Okay Jap i hope your inbred race all die out

>> No.5814059

>>5813323
Holobass was a fucking sperg but he wasn’t entirely at fault. Cover refused to even talk to him or clarify what was and wasn’t ok to use in fan content.

I don’t see anybody bitching about dochi dochi

>> No.5814086

>>5813323
>haven't seen anything other from Holobass twitter screenshots
>doesn't mention Mizuryu Kei and that doujin autor drama

Try harder than this, japfag.

>> No.5814125

>>5814086
>>doesn't mention Mizuryu Kei and that doujin autor drama
This drama doesn't make him look good either dumbass.

>> No.5814144

>>5813739
yes, he obviously named his channel after Hololive and would "collab" with himself to promote his non-holo music.

>> No.5814163

>>5813850
You’re retarded. He was accepting donations, not selling it. It was “name your own price” starting at $0.00.

>> No.5814196 [DELETED] 

>>5814046
You will never be white

>> No.5814209

>>5813323
Tatsunoko are just built different. Dedicated pay pigs who's only goal in life is to provide for their favorite chuuba. Absolutely based. There's no one like them. Living legends. You're favourite chuuba can't compete.

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>>5813323
>Japanese fan
>can't be assed to click like button

>> No.5814330

>>5813834
So it's okay when some nonames put his fan work music on spotify, monetise it and copystrike Holobass for using his own music, but when he tries to do same to avoid the former, he is faggot?

>> No.5814360

>>5814163
Holobass, I'm afraid that's still pretty cringe considering it uses an uncleared sample and you were riding Amelia's coattails.

>> No.5814403

All the Holobass Defense Force can come up with is "B-but look at what this other person did!", as if it justifies his retarded ass.

>> No.5814411

>>5814330
If he cleared the Amelia sample in advance it's fine.

>> No.5814420

It's just Teamates that are garbage. Ever notice how all the fan spergouts are always from her?

>Joseph meltdown
>holobass meltdown
>cringy superchat spammer about AX
>constant /vt/ meltdowns whenever she does anything """"wrong"""""

>> No.5814452

>>5813323
Holobass is a whore

>> No.5814473

>>5814046
Ok holobass

>> No.5814480
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>>5814209
>You’re favourite chuuba

>> No.5814581

>>5814125
Elaborate.

>> No.5814583

> Be RedAlice
> Be already cult favourite speedcore / gabber / J-Core producer
> Remix Coco, Miko and Haachama
> Coco and Haachama use your music as OP / ED themes to their streams
> Do 2 hour long Hololive remix DJ sets because you're a true fan

> Be Holobass
> Be some no-name nobody has ever heard of
> Get some credit riding on the back of HoloEN's coattails through very basic remixes
> Decide to throw a fit over copyright shit despite never having cleared initial copyright with Cover sampling Amelia's voice
> Immediately become a laughing stock and lose all relevance

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ponyfags don't deserve recognition

/thread

>> No.5814636

>>5814473
You can't fool us, holobass, fuck off.

>> No.5814705

>>5814596
>says that on a holobronies thread

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>> No.5814731

>>5814360
>riding Amelia's coattails.
Kinda like how Ame was riding the coattails of all of her JP senpai?

>> No.5814804

>>5814731
Holobass, please stop embarassing yourself. For your own sake. Maybe take some meds.

>> No.5814855

>>5814583
Alright, you actually need to lurk moar newfag-chama.

>> No.5814890

>>5814360
Holobass didn’t have the hindsight that “we” have now. Everybody else was using similar samples in their fan content without issue (and still do), so it would have seemed acceptable to him.

The reason he put it on Spotify was because other people who were bitching at him to put it on Spotify eventually said fuck it and uploaded it themselves, profiting off of it. That’s also why he made it “pick your price” starting at 0.

To be fair though, he sperged the fuck out pretty hard and I lost most of the respect I had for him. Not cool on his part

>> No.5814920

>>5814855
hi holobass

>> No.5815047

Is everyone in this thread holobass? Am I holobass?

>> No.5815102

No shit. Fuck the west.

>> No.5815132

>>5814480
Nice catch professor. What would I do without you.

>> No.5815255

>>5813323
did he actually do that? what a retard

>> No.5815341

>>5813983
>It is free labor without compensation and that is something many people already expect of artists for some reason, to do shit "to get their name out there", and never see a cent of it.
you can't try to charge to people for a job they did not ask you to do
if Holobass had not made the MV he would be equally penniless but nobody would know him either

>> No.5815342

>>5815132
You’d tell dragons about the freedom lady

>> No.5815434

>>5815341
I think the guy you were replying to was talking more about the tatsunokos not accepting payment in return for work, not Holobass basically being the youtube music equivilent of a homeless guy throwing a tantrum after you don't play him for cleaning your winshield wothout asking at a red light.

I kinda get his point, although since Coco's graduating, I think it's ok considering the circumstances.

>> No.5815488

>>5815047
all me, holobass.

>> No.5815533

>>5813770
Cover copyright strike his own song?
What?

>> No.5815584

>>5813513
>Making music based on royalty-free backing track
>Using Ame voice as voice bank
>Try to monetized it

Deserved , should just get sued from royalty-free music website that the guys stolen it from too.

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5815630

>>5813323
he didn't even have the balls to go out like a schizo

>> No.5815662

>"b-but I got peer pressured into putting my music on spotify! I did not want to profit off my music in the first place!"
>"I can't get any money from my music so I'm just going to stop making it alltogether. Also, imagine me copyright claiming a charity stream, now that would be fun."
what a fucking hypocrite. no wonder cover did not want to touch that with a ten foot pole.

>> No.5815720

>>5814059
the guidelines made sure to clarify that they weren't allowed to make money on fanmade contents, holobass was too retarded to make use for obvious loopholes and uploaded his shit on spotify where it is automatically monetized, citing bullshit reasons

>> No.5815726

>>5813323
I don't get content creators.
Instead of riding the wave and building as many bridges as possible and becoming a well known and liked creator, why choose to destroy everything by acting like an entitled cunt.
What do you think is gonna happen when you bite the hand that feeds you?
Do they think that the community would cheer them on or something?

>> No.5815761

>>5815533
You can't just sample someone's voice without their permission and monetize the product. That "yes OMG" cup-stacking girl got royalties for the skrillex song.

>> No.5815769

>>5813323
that reminds me, whatever happened to Walfie? i haven't seen anything since that Coco he made when she announced graduation

>> No.5815795

>>5815662
>"im definitely not doing this for the money!"
>"btw heres my membership please join"

>> No.5815829

Holobass was a massive faggot, this is not news. The moment he started shilling his shit in the Global threads should have been a warning.

>> No.5815836

>>5813323
Guys do you have any advice for someone that wants to be a big content creator?
I don't want to end up like Holobass, if I ever reach his size.
Just don't be autistic or something along the line?

>> No.5815851

>>5813793
What about 2Manysnacks ?

>> No.5815854

>>5815769
Walfie is active on twitter and still a massive holofan, but also has been doing some NijiEN stuff too. Not a grifter thankfully, most of the EN fan creators aren't.

>> No.5815862

>>5815726
>Holobass
>think

>> No.5815883

>>5815836
just don't be dumb, if you do free work with copyrighted material don't monetize it

>> No.5815897

>>5815769
supposedly he hopped on the niji train, don't know if he'll ever come back and do all of hololive, he sticks to chuubas with big EN appeal

>> No.5815925

>>5815851
He was or still is probably a ponyfag. I mean his profile pic is literally a pony lol

>> No.5815938

>>5815836
If you're doing fan works, remember they're fan works. You're not rrally the owner - it's all tied up in red tape.

Don't be an entitled, uppity faggot.

Ezpz.

>> No.5815943

>>5815836
Dont do it for money thats it.
Unless you're comissioned dont ever expect cover or the holomembers to pay you

>> No.5815947

>>5815836
Pretty much. Practice your art, but remember fanart isn't something you should expect to make money from, and if you're making Vtuber art they really like, chances are they're gonna want to show it off. I think they still generally will ask for permission to use like drawings and stuff, but if you're making music sampling them, don't expect to get your way in a copyright battle if they use it without permission.

>> No.5815960

>>5815851
Despite being a ponyfag he keeps his powerlevel in check and doesn't start shit.

>> No.5815977

>>5815897
>>5815854
yeah I know, it's just he was always there and now when you expect a piece of him to pop up after a "moment"... it just doesn't happen
I guess it's the trend with creators nowadays

>> No.5815980

>>5815836
honestly, don't be retarded, don't monetize stuff you are not allowed to monetize, and if you don't get an answer if it's okay or not, just assume they said "no".

It would probably help if you aren't threatening to strike a charity stream too.

>> No.5815998

>>5813323
a lot of western "fans" are actually leeches that don't think in the long term and want instant fame and money. Stupid nigger could have just let that slide and use it to boost his meme music career

>> No.5816037

>>5813323
Tatsunokos are the best fanbase, what else is new?

>> No.5816115

>>5815977
He's not a tribalist. I'd be lying if I said I knew if he was doing anything behind-the-scenes or working on some other personal project, but I know he's tight with many other HoloEN fan content creators that use Smol Ame in their fanworks - particularly the guy who makes the Smol Ame game.

>> No.5816186

>>5813323
>Amelia Watson is now the only source of Pops on Rocks on the internets...

>> No.5816262

>>5813323
cover probably didn't know anything, it was probably amelia just being nice and doing a fan created/requested bit, if anything this will make them less likely to do fan stuff in the future.

>> No.5816391

>>5815836
Depends if you want to do any promotion for future work, learn how japanese and american IP lisenceing works and set your expectations upfront. If you produce the work publicly with creative commons then come asking for more after they've used it even zhangs and nijiniggers will laugh at you

>> No.5816426

>>5815769

Not much, no yabs or anything. He came by to watch a Pomu stream the other day and made her a gif, but he's just continuing to be a normal guy as usual.

>> No.5816482

>>5813323
There's probably Japs who have done the same thing, but what a fucking bitch Holo Bass is so I am here to laugh at him

>> No.5816489

>>5813323
Is this guy new to making content on the internet?
>This account doesn't exist.
Scared of the backlash, huh.

>> No.5816898

>>5815726

Even clippers are saying "Hi honey" now and getting simped for. If you're dumb enough to try and directly monetize instead of enjoying the wink and nod of just doing it and gaining insane opportunity at secondary recognition off the back of Hololive, you're doing it all a bit silly.

>> No.5816990

>>5815836
Just know that they can fuck you at any time and in fact if you make it complicated they may be forced to to defend their rights. Put stuff out there with the full expectation that it is for gaining your personal brand or whatever term you wanna use for that, don't ever expect to be able to use your fanworks outside of throwing them out into the world and gaining the recognition for that.

>> No.5818052

>>5815761
What about the 'call 911 now' lady?

>> No.5818088

One, ONE, schizo does schizo things and suddenly all western fans are equal to the schizo

>> No.5818229

>>5815769
https://twitter.com/walfieee/status/1408645860813119489 He proved that you can be a fan of vchuubas from different companies without going mental.

>> No.5818329

>>5813323
>refuse to send an invoice
Reminds me of Projekt Melody's situation.

>> No.5818454

>>5818329
What’s Melody’s situation?

>> No.5818456

>>5815769
He likes what he likes and doesn't lets dumb brand wars affect him. Sounds based to me.

>> No.5818514

>>5818229
Not a tribalfag? Pretty gay desu.

>> No.5818558

>>5813323
>>keeps trying to make Cover pay him for his work
the problem he has, is it's not copyrightable.
Dr Seuss wrote the lyrics, Ame did the vocals and even the music wasn't produced by him. He simply put the three pieces of intellectual property together. It's not copyrightable, he couldn't even try to get YouTube to copywrite strike any of it if he wanted to.

ok, lets assume he made the music (he didn't) If i play the drums to Morgan freeman reading the lyrics an Eminem song I can't copywrite it. Copywrite laws don't work like that. If i play a Bach concerto on top of Morgan freeman reading Eminem's slim shady, i can't copywrite it.

In fact, I'm pretty sure Eminem could copywrite my ass in that situation, as could Morgan freemen, and if the Bach peice was still under some sort of copywrite law, so could he.

That so called teammate trying to get paid will never get paid, because nothing he did is copyrightable.

>> No.5818602

>>5813323
Shit he is actually retarded.Using royality free music and putting some sound clips over it doesn't make it his music.

>> No.5818644

>>5818558
It’s “copyright”

>> No.5818661

>>5814059
The guidelines made it very obvious that he wasn't allowed to sell anything.

>> No.5818738

>>5814581
Not him.What Cover did was normal and standard pratice and any artist in the manga industry would have told him that.

>> No.5818771

>>5813323
Holobass is a poorfag with nothing notable done. Tatsunokos are comprised of professionals and salarymen.

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Hololive has a guideline for submitting derivitive works and Holobass obviously never read it.

>> No.5818915

>>5813739
All hololive fans just jumped on the vtuber bandwagon

>> No.5818963

>>5818661
He was willing to give 100% of profit to hololive, but holo managers turned out to be too lazy to work with him. Basically, cover will not even respond to your business email, unless you are a huge corporation.

>> No.5818994 [DELETED] 

>>5813323
holobass sounds like a dickhead

>> No.5818995

>>5818963
hi holobass

>> No.5819141

>>5818963
He was in the wrong from to make profit in the first place. Imagine thinking you can monetize corporate content then contract the "payments" for it to them.

It's like listening to an 8-year-old describe their lemonade stand business practices.

>> No.5819160

>>5813323
because westerners is all about "ME ME ME ME ME LOOK AT ME I'M THE ONLY ONE MATTERS". That's why we got entitled retards like holobass and lefitsts shitting up every single hobby that we like. It doesn't mean Japs is free of any repercussion because it is clear that they are a massive corporate cock sucker.

>> No.5819232

>>5813592
I will never be Western too.

>> No.5819272

>>5813770
The point is, he wanted to get paid. He whined about not making music anymore if he were to not get a monetary income from his work

>> No.5819306

>>5818994
Holobass is doing it for free confirmed.

>> No.5819337

>>5818963
Why would Cover have the time to reply to every minor noname asking if they can use their shit to make money or if they can funnel money to them? The lack of reply was the answer, its a no, don't do it. They're not going to make a contract with some random dumbass because he remixed various things he didn't own together. No one but the most desperate bothers with that shit

>> No.5819374

>>5813323
Even chinks get mad if you use their work without permission. Of course, no one has ever done anything creative on this board other than making distorted Pekor do it's pointless trying to make you understand

>> No.5819419

I always like to compare Holobass to Avilon whenever this comes up.
Both made hololive fan music, both were boosted massively by it.
The only difference is that instead if trying to monetize fan music, Avilon instead used his new audience to make 100% independent music without Holo sampling and whether do you know, his music is monetized on Spotify

>> No.5819438

>>5813895
Because we have legit Cover interns and reddit mods on this site. This is not the first time Cover fucked over artists and then spread lies about them.

>> No.5819449

>>5815769
He isn't a fan of Coco all that much. That's fine. He just sticks by his oshis and making silly fanarts and stuff.

>> No.5819476

>>5818963
When you made this post did you stop to consider how many emails they get daily from people asking to work together with them? Why would they work together with holobass when they they'll be rejecting people with actual reputation on a regular basis

>> No.5819782

>>5816186
Until I decide to upload it somewhere lol

>> No.5819900

Holo leeches are the worst. A few example, koefficient, that indian react youtuber, walfie, hyde, takamori rainbow army, and vshojo.

>> No.5819910

>>5818806
TL;DR version, the last bit "we reserve every right to btfo your shit if we feel like it"
Don't act butthurt if they exercise this clause, they owe you nothing

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>>5813323
Hololive fans are literally Jewish lmao
https://mobile.twitter.com/holobass_edm2

>> No.5820012

>>5815897
he should do whatever he wants

>> No.5820026

>>5813323
Wow you're good at talking nonsense. The dude didnt "spergs out because it becomes famous" He released a lot of songs after Pops on Rocks. He wanted to profit from his work by putting his songs on Spotify like a lot of fanmusic artist do. He readed de Fanworks Guidelines that doesnt mention nothing against profiting from fanwork while it isnt an absurd amount. He asked Cover before. Didnt get a reply then he posted all his songs in spotify which were there for months. He stills asked Cover about it. No replies. Then after some months Cover take off all songs except 2. (They are still on spotify) He asked about it again but no response. Then he got angry and talked about end it all(Stop making Fanmusic) People thought he was gonna copystrike Ame's stream thing that he said that he wont after he saw all the shitstorm that the bad phrasing had caused and dissapeared from the Hololive fandom. That's literally it. I invite you to read the Hololives Fanworks Guidelines English ver. And you'll see it doesnt make any sense.

>> No.5820106

>>5814420
Oh i didnt notice it A shame it seem teamate are retarded too they didnt gain the reputation of one of the worst fanbase with chumbuds for nothing I guess.

>> No.5820163

>>5820026
I checked his YouTube were all your typical redditor response that you should never expect anything from a corporation and never ever voice any concern. Someone literally wrote "companies dont have emotions and you shouldn't have them either"

>> No.5820214

>>5820026
Are you ESL or just 12 years old

>> No.5820225 [DELETED] 

>>5820026 the guidline are clear about it, honestly the only two chpice is this guy cannot read or
He took a chance and it didnt work out there was no need to get obnoxious about it.

>> No.5820228

>>5818229
>she needed proof for this

>> No.5820280

>>5813323
Nice cherrypick faggot

>> No.5820301

Thousands of people make significant money from creating Touhou derivative work and nobody has a problem with it.

If you make something that popular, you deserve to be paid for it.

>> No.5820311

>>5813323
Fans reflect their oshi, Coco is a genuine good person while Ame is a genuine bitch

>> No.5820332

>>5820026
Alrighty, Holobass.

>> No.5820418

>>5820311
Fuck you, just single digit number person don't mean all teamate are bad

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>>5813323
It's usually the person being sampled without permission seeking compensation. This is the first time I've heard of it the other way around kek Holo Bass is a huge autistic greedy faggot.

>> No.5820479

>>5815925
And?

>> No.5820519

>>5820026
The guideline are pretty clear tho i honestly dont know why he acted like it was not justified at first.
We can even see him admit that he was wrong in the comment of the last video he made so even Holobass knew he fucked up.

>> No.5820538

>>5813323
The idiot could've coasted on youtube money (which was legitimately helping him with student loans/buying merch; this is from his own words) so he literally brought this on himself.

>> No.5820558

>>5813363
Everyone look at this faggot

>> No.5820609

more like Holo ASS

>> No.5820669

Holobass if you're reading this get fucked fag

>> No.5820692

>>5814330
No it's not ok, but that's stuff he has to clear on his own, He used Amelia's voice for ''his song'' it wasn't even a collab, he just took the part where she is reading that seuss book and remixed it, unless he asked Holo and Seuss for permission then he can't do shit legally.

>> No.5820721

>>5820301
the thing with touhou is that zun allowed everyone to make money from the content they made

>> No.5820752

>>5813363
>american education

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>>5820026

>> No.5820913

>>5820026
Holy shit Nguyen go have a glass of water and a lie down

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>>5813363
he fucked any possibility of a career over less than what you get from your shitty monthly welfare checks

>> No.5821141

>>5815769
He'll go quiet for a while then pop back up. Mighta gotten burnt out a little but eh the dude's been in the game longer than a good number of people on 4chan have been alive.
This really is his second big time around the block for fandom notability but last time was with Touhou. Yea he's the guy you're thinking of with a similar name, came out and admitted it on twitter a while back.
Probably will have something for Coco's graduation. Might be laying low while hording up for that.

>> No.5821322

>>5815851
>>5820479
At least read the context before you reply during your egosa, 2manysnackschama.

>> No.5821336

>>5813323
The mantra of westernfags for when it comes to doing anything is "Will it pay"? Literal materialist bug people.

>> No.5821557

>>5813503
kek

>> No.5822608
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5822608

>Holo Bass
>Hololive Moments
>make money off of Hololive
>think they are actually bigger than Hololive
>try to tell Hololive what to do
>Cover tells them to fuck off
>fans tell them to fuck off
>explode in an autistic shit-fit rage, delete everything and die
pottery

>> No.5823038

>>5820692
Having Seuss involved is the biggest thing, it's one thing to mix just a holo's voice, it's another thing to have another corporation involved. Cover obviously didn't initially mind the song being out there, but if they they approved him it would have given Seuss Enterprises ammo to fuck them over if they wanted to - and for what, a few thousand bucks? Holobass kept pushing and pushing them because he wanted out of the grey area - well, he got what he wanted, Cover got forced to inch out and take his shit down. Even Ame's own reading is technically in the danger zone, it's just way more unlikely to be taken down because it would make Seuss Enterprises look like a bunch of assholes especially given the more complete, more visible and viewed readings available, some outright ripped from paid products, which have been up for years. Making a song that earns money is on another level entirely from just reading the thing, not least because it also might affect the overall image of the work which they seem to care about more.

>> No.5823075

>>5813323
I like how you guys literally always just lie about what happened to try and shill for Cover and Ame.
He didnt really want money he just wanted to at least have credit given to him for his music and wanted to get in contact with Cover to avoid them copywrite striking all his shit which they ended up doing after he tried to contact them time and time again.
Stop shilling for Cover so hard holy shit.

>> No.5823094

>>5820311
This is an undeniable fact. Teamates are literal antis for anyone who isnt Ame.

>> No.5823228

>>5823075
>puts music on Spotify
>get paid every time a song is played
>WAAAAAAA HOLO BASS DIDN'T WANT MONEY!!!!
fuck off Holo Bass

>> No.5823259

>>5823075
>his music
lol

>> No.5823265

>>5823228
>puts music on music platform so people can listen to it
>REEEE GREEDY FUCK!!!!
fuck off redditfag

>> No.5823285

>>5823075
which part of the music was his, again?

>> No.5823298

>>5823259
Yes the lyrics are not his but the music is.....
The lyrics arent Covers or Ame's either by the way just incase you forgot.

>> No.5823310

>>5823075
Why do you lie he say himself in his last video that he wanted money too.
No cover isnt going to give the greenlight to a fanmade song using dr seuss lyrics.

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>>5823075

>> No.5823351

>>5823285
The music part.....

>> No.5823374

>>5823285
The kinda generic baseline samples he used along with the poprocks samples.

>> No.5823385

>>5823075
I like how he threatened to report Ame on a charity stream

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5823397

>>5819438
Shitty black company

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5823401

>>5823374
>Royalty Free bgm
>amelias voice
>lyrics from dr seuss
lmao all he did was put legos together

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5823413

>>5823075
>didn't want money
retardchama...

>> No.5823420

>>5823298
>aren't Cover's or Ame's
And with that you've hit on the perfect reason why Cover stopped him from monetizing it.

>> No.5823424

>>5823401
Sorry bro meant to quote >>5823351

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>>5823401
Some people get paid for putting Legos together

>> No.5823449

>>5823385
I like that he didnt and people just say this... he literally said "I would think about copywrite striking it if it wasnt a charity stream"
Stop being a sheep

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5823462

Are braindead wapanese retards trying to cherry pick fans now? Need I remind you about the Jannies, the HoloAlt artist, nkodice, and BL fridge.

>> No.5823467

>>5823401
so the music isn't even from him?

>> No.5823488

>>5823449
Your english reps, ESLchama..

>> No.5823508

>>5819438
You want me to belive that Cover, the company that can't into intel when their company's life depends on it, have the ability to hide something like that from us?
Besides, Holobass sounds like a whiner anyway.

>> No.5823522

Daily reminder they had to APOLOGIZE because of BL fridge. Holobass was just some sperg. >>5823462 is right, it's not even close.

>> No.5823525

>>5823467
It is people are just lying out their ass about the royalty free music part for some reason. Probably makes them feel better and makes it easier to shill for Cover.

>> No.5823537

>>5813323
More like money grubbing Ame vs based Kaichou

>> No.5823565

Wow yes a single person is a great sample of the western fanbase let's ignore all the western fans who make stuff for free

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5823624

>>5819438
ahahaha you legit think there are under-cover employees in a albanian grass maintenance forum
holy shit schizo anon this is a great one

>> No.5823633

>>5823537
exquisite bait, though a tad stale

>> No.5823676

>>5823467
It's not, all he has done was cut the vocal samples and mix the track, some people just want to shitpost though, like this >>5823525 fag

>> No.5823776

>>5823633
How much is Cover paying you to post here?

>> No.5823807

plenty of japs hate their shit getting pirated and or "reprinted" then delete all their shit

>> No.5823818

>>5823537
>Ame
>money grubber
>the person who turns off superchats the most
Kek just kill yourself my man

>> No.5823819

>>5823776
Try to be funnier next time

>> No.5824137

>>5823265
He still earned money with fanwork that included samples of amelia you mong

>> No.5824663

>>5823818
Not even that, she deliberately avoided performing the song for months even though there would have been a windfall of SCs every single time she did. Even her single performance avoided putting a single cent into her own pocket, especially since the outburst came instantly after, so no SCs were ever attributed to it. I've never seen someone dodge free money like it was a fucking plague more than Watson dodging requests to perform Pop on Rocks.

>> No.5824783

>>5823776
Cover didn't even pay the people they put in charge of their bilibili channels providing full clipping, translation and subbing services, and you think they pay shitposters here?
That's why I work for mowtendoo, nigger gives me twenty cents a post

>> No.5824845

>>5824783
>mowtendoo
What is he up to these days?

>> No.5824996

>>5824845
He's VShoujo's cofounder and CTO.

>> No.5825112

>>5813323
this dude barely made a song in the first place.
it was just copied and pasted audio from that ASMR stream with a nig beat shoved in the back.
he's a faggot.

>> No.5825191

>>5825112
The mixing and splicing he did isn't effortless to be fair. But it's not a wholly original project so he should really have some damn humility about credit and payments.

There are two kinds of artists. The really entitled sort like holobass and the kind who are too hard on themselves and let other people walk all over them. Mentally healthy artists are rarer than unicorns.

>> No.5825243

>>5823075
He literally admitted that he was paying off his student loans with the money he was earning from the song, anonchama.

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>>5824996
>it's real
What the fuck

>> No.5825823

Literally who?

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5825959

Just a reminder.

>> No.5826066

>>5825959
Still can't believe this autistic retard blew the deal of a lifetime.

>> No.5826505

>>5826066
Is that the guy who was supposed to draw the Hololive manga?

>> No.5826799

>>5826066
>>5826505
>>5825959
Yes, he also drew and wrote the Maken Ki! story, which was based. He has always manage to fuck up all good choices on his life, like from an ecchi manganka to a NTR nigger idiot (he even did NTR stuff from the series, specially Aki sensei), to befriend Marine and dropping all because he had "something" against the company and dropped it all because of it. He is just a complete idiot.

>> No.5831166

>>5826799
Still can't believe it.

>> No.5834228

>>5814059
>I don’t see anybody bitching about dochi dochi
is there someone profiting with dochi dochi? or it was just posted by a fan on tweeter?

>> No.5835077

>>5818963
>He was willing to give 100% of profit to hololive
he was stealing from ame, cover and dr seuss in the first place. the only copyright material in the whole endeavor was ame, cover, dr seuss's estate and the composer of the music he stole.

He was lucky he wasn't copyright struck by one of the above 3 parties. he has NO CLAIM to any of this. he's a delusional idiot who thinks he can monetize someone else's work for his own benefit, and he's making himself look like more of an idiot throwing a twitter fit.

>> No.5835112

>>5825959
>>5826799
>>5826066

Which is why I laughed my ass off when he self destructed on twitter. He wanted more money because Hololive took off big after he signed the contract.
He wanted the unilaterally change the deal. Cover said "no"
and then that retard blew his brains out on twitter. Was the funniest shit I saw all week. And then his sycophant fans going 100% Damage control was even more funny.

Also the guy's sequential art and storyboarding was AWFUL in every thing he did. They expected that tard to be able to do a manga without being hyper micro'd?

>> No.5835135

>>5813323
>>tatsunokos tell her "no way fag" and refuse to send an invoice
Fucking based

>> No.5835322

>>5820026
>He wanted to profit from his work by putting his songs on Spotify like a lot of fanmusic artist do.
he wanted to profit from other people's intellectual property.

If i play a Gangsta Paradise instrumental over Gura raping some nonsense written by Eminem, I CANT COPYWRITE IT

3 pieces of intellectual property created and owned by 3 other people; mixed together by you doesn't give you any right to monetize it. Sure you CAN monetize it if you want, but you have no right to complain when someone makes a copyright strike against you. The absolute delusion to believe he had any right to this material is amazing.

If he actually was a fan, he should have been thrilled it was popular and took whatever $$ he could make from it before someone copywrite struck it. Not act like a whiny bitch that people were claiming their own intellectual property that he stole and monetized for himself.

>> No.5835374

>>5820692
it wasn't even his song. he took a song from a 3rd party without permission. the dude contributed next to nothing, and there were 3 legit copyright holders he was stepping on trying to cash in.

>> No.5835418

>>5823298
>but the music is.....
no, the music was stolen like everything else.

>> No.5835456

>>5823467
exactly, the music wasn't his either.

>> No.5835496

>>5823449
>he literally said "I would think about copywrite striking it if it wasnt a charity stream"
That is a fucking threat. Wtf anon.

>> No.5835504

>>5823462
>>5825959
>>5826799
Funny how the faggots in this thread went silent after these

>> No.5835921

>>5825281
IKR? I don't follow VShoujo and I found the same thing out on /vt/ yesterday. No wonder his brilliance stopped gracing my YT feed. Dude made the highest quality western MADs I've ever seen.

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>>5820026
Can't be easy being this retarded, they talk about using fan content for profit motives two times in the guidelines and it's pretty clear cut. That guy is still selling his songs on soundcloud. I don't usually side with corporations but you people are so retarded I have no sympathy if he gets fucked over.

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>>5814059
Well for starters he didn't add the song to spotify without any permission, instead the management, ayame and the creator of the docchi docchi song had a proper arrangement to add the song in the official album.

>> No.5841276

why are we here discussing about LITERALLY WHO?

>> No.5841637

>>5823462
What even is nkodice? Dick and pussy are literally the only things I've heard related to whatever that is.

>> No.5842345

>>5814596
you shouldn't /thread your own post, but you're right so I'll do it for you: /thread

>> No.5842674

>>5835946
sorry, brainlet here
ain't putting your song on spotify/soundcloud still classify as fan level tho?
and ain't the profit from those came from ads anyway and thus falls under the exception of "advertising revenue"?

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>>5813323
Social media proving that pretty much anyone can make it is what's happening in the west. Just look at that Latino on tiktok. All he did was made a chill video of him enjoying some juice whilst skating and listening to fleetwood mac. It blew up, they gave him a new truck, some juice, got recognized by Mick Fleetwood and even asked to work with him when covid is over. Now he has a following on tiktok and is now making some extra money on the side whilst also being recognized by a sizeable amount of people who are his fans. And this is just one small example of this happening. Back then people would make these projects simply to prove they were fans or a show of appreciation towards someone. No one had dreams of making it big over some fanart or fan project. This faggot saw how much Hololive influence can do for someone so he wanted a piece of the pie. Things will only get worse, especially if the people making the content are zoomers.

>> No.5846887

Holobass more like hollow ass

>> No.5849665

>>5842674
Soundcloud is fine but he has a "buy button" under the song which links to his bandcamp where you name your price, you can say 0 but it's basically asking for money.
For spotify you gotta work together with a distributor to upload and you get paid in royalties and as far as I know there's no no-profit option there.

>> No.5849676

>>5813323
To be fair, Ame haven't announced her graduation yet.

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