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58111509 No.58111509 [Reply] [Original]

What actually happened with Kronii was a little more complicated. Basically she first attempted to understand where her fans were coming from, and then abruptly did an about face and sided with the people calling them incels. It was a betrayal of trust on the deepest level, and whether or not she meant it this way is irrelevant, the effect was the same.

Basically Kronii did not have a lot of things going for her as a streamer early on. She had the Wada model and a nice voice. But she wasn't great at zatsudan, she wasn't great at games, and she wasn't great at singing, she also did karaoke pretty rarely. Which is fine, part of the joy of the Hololive experience is watching your streamer develop over time. Thus people had to find something else to latch onto and they did so by becoming parasocial with her. This wasn't helped by her choosing to watch a lot of "Gosling" movies in member streams like The Truman Show, and of course Ryan Gosling himself in Blade Runner and La La Land.

The male collab thing was not well received by this portion of the fanbase and they made their discontent known through long and lengthy posts in her community, trying to explain themselves as best they could. Whether they were CGDCTchads or just plain unicorns, or people who didn't like the drama that male collabs inevitably bring, they spelled out their grievances, for the most part as composed as they could be. I'd say the only person that came off close to being a unicorn was Aliaga Ayin's post and even that wasn't that deranged. Some of these posts were from long time members, people Kronii would actually talk and react to in chat, Kronies refer to such people as being on the "spreadsheet' which is an alleged list of her "favorite" members. The most notorious of this would be Gabe who was mentally ill and attention seeking from Day 1, but even his post wasn't that crazy.

The point is during a special unarchived member stream, Kronii took the time to read these posts, out loud on stream, in an effort to better understand what these people were unhappy about. And for a brief moment, that won her a lot of love and respect. While Reddit and Twitter were calling these people unicorns and incels, she actually took the time to read them, addressed their concerns, and even defended them, saying she didn't want people attacking her fans. She stated clearly, that while she would NOT stop doing male collabs, she would not initiate them, probably not tweet to them that much, and she would not stream her POV to them. This satisfied all but the most die hard unicorns, and again, even Aliaga Ayin was pacified. The point is, the Kronies that felt this way felt HEARD. She didn't just dismiss them out of hand, like others were doing.

Then less than a day later, she did this tweet, disappeared for a week, and when she came back said she would collab with whoever, whenever, and that was the end of it. There was no further discussion and at the same time the Hololive account made that proclamation against harassing the talents.

So in the eyes of the Kronies who felt betrayed, she had gone from understanding them and defending them, to siding with the people who mocked them and disparaged them, while running and hiding behind the skirts of the company from the inevitable backlash she had to know would follow. Honestly it would have been better if she had never done that unarchived members stream. She gave them hope that she understood, if not fully agreeing with where they came from, and then dashed it violently. That's why they hate her so much. It's not as simple as "male collabs" or "unfortunately idol culture is a thing" it is a real long standing feeling of betrayal and loss from people who watched her for over a year and thought they had a deeper understanding of their oshi and she them.

>> No.58111545
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>>58111509
I will literally never support Mori, Kronii, or Ame in any way shape or form ever. I will always think of them as lesser, I will always hate them, and I will always avoid content that includes them in any way, shape, or form. The reason is simple. They are anathema to Hololive and the values of cute girls doing cute things. They have shown through their words and actions that they are not the right fit for Hololive and that they don't belong there. Moreover they have shown that instead of trying to fit in, they would rather take radical measures to try and change Hololive. Hololive should not have to suffer people who are just there to cynically funnel attention to their roommates, lazy ironic weebs, or spiteful bitches.

>Y-You should forgive her!
No.

>S-She's changed, she's better now
No she hasn't and even if she has, I don't care, she will never be forgiven for her past sins.

>Y-Your information is months/years out of date
Possibly, because that's when I stopped watching them. As I said, I'm not going to forgive them.

>Don't you believe in second chances?
All these girls got multiple chances and at every opportunity, they fucked it up. They showed they would rather "own the haters" or rather get up on a soapbox and dispense their stupid uninformed opinions to the legions of people who support them. What a lot of people fail to recognize is that Hololive IS a second chance. These girls failed at being fucking waitresses. They couldn't even do a basic service job. Just by being in Hololive, they are given a wonderful opportunity to make the kind of money 99% of the world will never see and they should be grateful because none of them could hack it in the real world. But instead of being grateful, they got full of themselves and decided to try the "my way or the highway" approach.

>Y-You're just a schizo anti!
Actually I'm being hyper rational. I gave all these girls chances and they all chose to make bad decisions. I do not harass them on Twitter, I don't stalk them, I don't even leave negative comments on their videos. I just simply do not watch them, I do not buy their merch, and I tell everyone on this discussion forum that I do not like them and that others should not watch them either. I inform people who are new, who may not know why they are hated, of the things these girls did in the past and why people have a sour view of them now. Obviously I cannot make other people stop supporting them, everyone is free to do what they want. But I will warn others of the type of shit they've pulled in the past and consequently the type of person they've shown themselves to be.

>TLDR
These girls are not worth your time or money. There are plenty of other girls who are.

>> No.58111651

>>58111509
>>58111545
*comes on you*

>> No.58111814

>>58111509
How does she have the most Uber sex model of all time but end up like this
Many such cases

>> No.58111844

you are nigger

>> No.58112003

>>58111814
All women want to be a Sultan’s pillow princess. If they don’t have to work for male effort, they will refuse to.

>> No.58112099

>>58111509
tl;dr
people screech about mori or others disrespecting their fans or whatever shit they go on about, but kronii did shit to actively spite her fans
the morons that kept watching her deserve everything they get and that's one boring ass streamer that's gone nowhere in 2 years and whose future prospects are just as bland
this was apparent from her first few streams such that I can only assume it was just coomers stuck around purely for the model
which is retarded

>> No.58112108

>>58111509
Mucho texto, nijidrone

>> No.58112149

It's been one year since the yab and the homo is gone
I'm fine with forgiving her now

>> No.58112161
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>>58111509
>>58111545
>>58112099
>disgruntled numbernigs sad their fantasies of her becoming a 3 view never happened
Kronii a cute
Keep on seething sisters

>> No.58112222

>>58112099
One aspect everyone forgets is how much saviorfagging there was for Kronii too
She kept talking about trouble in her home life and psycho relatives in the home
so people wanted to support her so she could get away from it
The SECOND she bought her own place she turned on her fans, even before anything happened with the homos

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>>58111509
>>58111545

>> No.58112244

>>58111509
>>58111545
Now kiss

>> No.58112365

>>58112161
there's nothing numberniggerish about that post fag
kronii is boring
the dry vocalfry bored girl act is tedious and overdone
she hasn't achieved anything being in hololive and has been sustained, barely, only by the likes of (you) who only liked her model

>> No.58112529

>>58112161
You’re right, even 3views sell more merch than her kek

>> No.58112740

holy shit im sorry but maybe someone will read it

>> No.58112744

Clucks are the most pathetic of all fanbases
>Okay, I can understand cucking me 6 times, but 7? That's were I draw the line!
>Gets cucked again
They don't deserve your respect.

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>> No.58113355

>>58112161
She had to be 'convinced' by management to even do the whole swimsuit thing. You can tell it wasn't by her own volition considering all her past actions. And you fools eat it up.
It's like mori's sudden coombaiting about face but worse since mori actually put money down for coombaiting casuals where kronii got that slenderman freaky shit.

>> No.58113726

>>58111509
Yeah ok, you've already repeated this schizo thing ad nauseam on this board for months. Nobody gives a fuck and nobody besides your samefagging ass is reading this blogpost.

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>>58111509
>>58111545

>> No.58116796

>>58111509
What are the chances she saw under his pants?

>> No.58117280

>>58111509
>>58111545
Bros can you guys just touch tips already?

>> No.58123949

Translating from Troonicorn to English:
"We tried to hold her hostage through disrupting her streams with our sackless crying and harassing her, then she took a break and told us to fuck off when she came back."

>> No.58124375

Does she still think that idol culture being a thing is unfortunate?

>> No.58125183

>>58111509
>Basically she first attempted to understand where her fans were coming from, and then abruptly did an about face and sided with the people calling them incels.
There was no "attempt to understand" them cause she already understood and disagreed with them.
Her "attempt" was basically her saying "Only pathetic friendless losers would be bothered by this. You're not pathetic friendless losers, right kronies?" and surprisingly many kronies at least had spines, if not female friends.

>> No.58125543

>>58111509
Cry more I'm sure kronii is losing sleep.

>> No.58125647

>>58123949
This.

>> No.58125699

>>58111545
I KNEEL

>> No.58125769

>>58111509
I hope you made this with ChatGPT, the alternative is much more depressing.

>> No.58125810

>>58111509
what did she mean by this niji behaviour

>> No.58126115

>>58111651
>>58111844
>>58112108
>>58112161
>>58112236
>>58112244
>>58112740
>>58112776
>>58113726
>>58114299
>>58117280
>>58123949
>>58125543
>>58125769
>t. hololive antis and nijiniggers

>> No.58126575

>>58111545
BASED

>> No.58126677

>>58111509
I'm surprised you still haven't moved on, she really mindbroke you Jesus christ...

>> No.58126773

>>58126115
Still being a faggot OP? Not a good look for you

>> No.58126934

you mfers need to stop taking adderall and coming here 1st thing to blog post

>> No.58127027

>>58126115
>Disagrees with me anti!
Uh huh try something new or maybe quit being retarded.

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>>58111509
TL;DR

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>>58112149
Me too!

>> No.58130598

>>58111509
>p
Stopped reading there

>> No.58130659

>>58111509
>>58111545
reddit is around the corner, faggots.

>> No.58131308

>>58111509
Not reading all that. Not going back to watching her. I'm better off.

>> No.58131454

>>58123949
Translating from shill to English:
"The paying customers and disapprove of this content and are being vocal about it, then she attempted to memoryhole the failed attempt at undermining their complaints and hoped taking time off the screen would help her fans accept shit they were strongly against consuming."

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>>58111509
>>58111545
I ain't reading all that pointless shit.

>> No.58131715

>>58131454
Fans don't own her seethe more troonicorn. The only thing Amelia Mori Bae ID Girls and Kronii did wrong in your eyes is not being a cunt towards their coworkers. What is it about vtubbing that turns all you faggots into a full fledged feminist extremist? If you want to see cam whores to do what you want them to do there's Chaturbate for that or you can go watch mel assuming you aren't already watching her.

>> No.58131788

>>58131715
>Fans don't own her
Yes they do. Seethe forever, trannychama.

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>>58111545
>the shills come out of the woodwork screeching
My friend, you bow to no one

>> No.58133471

I hate Kronii because her tits are as revolting as her laugh. You're just pissy she told you all to fuck off. Chokeslam where in a moment of clarity you find the answer to "You do have female friends, right?" to be "NO". Neck yourself, end the pain. That don't even count as a proper rejection from a female and you're seething till now. Rope for you. Touching grass is no cure.

>> No.58133540

>>58111509
I AIN'T READING ALLLAT YOUNG MAN

>> No.58133770

what does he hate about that picture?

>> No.58134765

I'm going to say it now, I hate homobeggars and unicorns. I denounce you as petty goalpost moving lying communist pieces of garbage. You dare cry victimhood because Kronii had the nerve to be kind to her new coworkers. For all this big talk about women who aren't kind enough to men, whenever a woman does show kindness to men, you are the first to denounce. Funny thing is, I didn't even want Kronii to collab with the stars in the first place. I even voiced my opinion stating as such in her comments section. However, after taking our input she decided she would collab with the stars and that was that. I didn't make long whining posts like the OP who either wasn't there or didn't actually listen to what she said, because this entire statement looks like it was made by someone with secondhand information. I'm a loyal Kronie, I have been since she came into existence. I am loyal to my Oshi, not some ideology like the homobegging and unicorn commissars are.

>> No.58134936

>>58131788
You don't even have control of your own life. Cry more incel.

>> No.58135041

>>58133471
It's hilarious that a vtubber of all things was the one to ask them that question. They behave like subhuman retards then get mad when they get treated like retards. Maybe if they stopped being retarded kronii wouldn't had to expose all the incels in this hobby.

>> No.58135538

>>58135041
>>/vt/?task=search&ghost=false&search_text=vtubber

This mindbroken ESL pipcuck has been seething for 2 years about idol culture. 2 years.
What broke him so hard?

>> No.58135721

>>58134765
Based

>> No.58135795

Isn't moomei passing kronii evidence enough that anyone who still watches her is only in for the coomerbait?

>> No.58135876

>>58135538
I don't even watch Pippa, or been here for two years. You're just mad a woman playing the role of anime girl asked you if you had friends of a different gender. You got absolutely destroyed by her to the point you're still seething 9 months later. Cry more unicuck.

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Come back to the light, lost brothers

>> No.58135932

>>58135876
You're the only retard alive that thinks it's spelled "vtubber", and you got outed. I've seen you in a few other "anti unicorn" threads seething.
2 years of seethe...for what? to lose two of your boys and get laughed at by the entire board?
No wonder you're so upset.

>> No.58136006

>>58135932
I can spell it however I want, and you're still going to be mad that Kronii exposed you as worthless incel. Cry more faggot.

>> No.58136041

>>58136006
you lost btw, sister. none of your ESL gibberish is even getting read.

>> No.58136061

>>58135896
Why do you guys keep changing the definitions of everything?

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>>58136006
>I can make myself look completely retarded by misspelling simple words if I want, you stupid incel

>> No.58136223

>>58136041
Cry more faggot. All the seething and crying won't get you any female friends. Your mom cries every night because of how much of a failure you've been as a man, like I've told you before, you will seethe and cry until the day you die because you were exposed as a subhuman sack of shit. You have to live knowing that the same form of escapism you sown in a chuuba was the very first thing to remind you how miserable and sad your actual life is.

>> No.58136257

>>58111545
Based.

>> No.58136308

>>58125543
She's losing money
with the new girls grabbing a piece of the pie she'll lose support and relevance

>> No.58136357

>>58136223
you lost btw, not reading your ESL. im enjoying making you reply on cooldown with seethe though kek

>> No.58136393

>>58136308
She seems to be doing just fine, without you faggots, however I can say the same thing for your mental decline.

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>>58136223
>accuses others of seething
>proceeds to seethe wildly
You seem upset that unicorns won. Magni and Vesper are never coming back btw.

>> No.58136441

>>58136357
I'm not on cool down tho? I don't think you understand what a cool down is schizo.

>> No.58136461

>>58136441
>2 years of seethe
>still loses
RUMAO

>> No.58136533

>>58136461
Making schizophrenic theories in his mind because he was exposed by an anime woman of being an incel lmao you can't make this shit up.

>> No.58136537

>>58111509
>>58111545
please have sex
gay sex
put the penis in each other's asses

>> No.58136599

>>58111545
she is not your girlfriend
she is not your friend
she is not your personal entertainer
she is not your property
she is not your employee
she is not your family
she is not an affection vending machine that trades money for attention
she is not a robot that converts money and attention into affection and attention to (you)
she is an entertainment product that is already paid by her employer and you have no obligation to invest either time or money in this entertainment product.

>> No.58136641

>>58136533
Hey sister, did you know homobeggars lost and there's absolutely nothing you can do about it

>> No.58136687

>>58136533
>still lost
>still seething
can't make this shit up

>> No.58136713

>>58136599
>she is not your girlfriend
Yes she is
>she is not your friend
Yes she is
>she is not your personal entertainer
Yes she is
>she is not your property
Yes she is
>she is not your employee
Yes she is
>she is not your family
Yes she is
>she is not an affection vending machine that trades money for attention
Yes she is
>she is not a robot that converts money and attention into affection and attention to (you)
Yes she is
>she is an entertainment product that is already paid by her employer and you have no obligation to invest either time or money in this entertainment product.
Yes she is

>> No.58136747

>>58136641
>>58136687
Seething troonicorns who don't have any female friends.

>> No.58136828

>>58136747
Says the seething tranny who will never be a woman kek

>> No.58136858

I like kronii for sex.
Same for mori. But any respect as “entertainers” I thought they were has been long gone. They’re lucky they can coast on sex models and voices

>> No.58136921

>>58136747
Ah, the "troon" projection. The only type of mentally ill freak that'd seethe for 2 years over idol culture would be a failed genetic dead end stuck on HRT and getting triggered everytime they look in a mirror
you still lost btw

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>>58136061
The False Ones will seek to mislead you, brother

>> No.58137144

>>58111509
>>58111545
What's the point of this? there's like 5 Kronies on this entire board

>> No.58137282

>>58136828
>>58136921
The faggots who replaced real women interaction with an anime girl only to be reminded of their actual problem by said anime girl ha! couldn't be me. Does that hurt? In before Shitper and Fagnis lmao I don't know why you keep insisting I care about those faggots but is entertaining, since I'm not the one looking for something that will never be.

>> No.58137401

Future anthropologists are going to look at threads like this included in their vast bodies of harvested data from before the Event and use it to provide justification for arguments about increasing lead levels in the water tables of Southeast Asia.

>> No.58137704

>>58111545
my brother, my captain, my king

>> No.58137979

>>58137401
As if North Americans aren't taking part of this.

>> No.58138570

don't care. watching full grown men break down over a png was entertaining as shit

>> No.58138628

>>58111509
I'm glad kronii is a shell of her former self, so glad her boytoy is fucking gone.

>> No.58138693

>>58136061
You're here at the home of /vt/ - Gaslighters and Gatekeepers

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>>58111545
Same, I will always respect gura and I think JP branch respects gura quite a bit too because of how much she avoided the males. You can tell omega troon forced her shit on gura but gura did not fucking budge. She basically lost all interest in streaming for holoEN since then because they're all little cucks who want intergender collabs. Good riddance, gura. good fucking riddance.

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>>58111509
Thanks for posting this. Seeing all the troons, SJWs, tempigs and mindbroken kronies come crawling out of the woodwork to defend her "honour" is extremely entertaining. You should bait with this copypasta more often.

>> No.58142288

>>58140626
I love it how Unicorns have latched onto Gura as a fellow ideological commissar when the simple truth of the matter is that she just doesn't stream as often as she used too and just likes doing her own thing when she does.

>> No.58142492

>>58141698
>Troons, SJWs, Tempigs
Lol you idiots keep acting like you are on the right wing, we hate you just as much as we hate those people.

>> No.58142509

>>58140626
None of this happened. By your logic the jp girls have the same amount of respect for fauna mumei Irys Kaela and everyone else who didn't collabed with names despite male collabs originating in Japan in the first place.

>> No.58145385

>>58142492
who the fuck is "we"?

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>>58111509
>>58111545
holy mother of based

>> No.58146090

>>58112099
>kronii did shit to actively spite her fans
She sent a single tweet (which would still fall under the "probably won't tweet at them much" umbrella), and then, after a week of retards screeching at her and calling her a lying whore who should kill herself, she decided that maybe catering to a bunch of mentally ill schizos isn't the best idea, and she should do what SHE wants to do, not what THEY want her to do.

The people she spited are not 'fans'. Hell, they barely qualify as 'people'.

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