/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>58059390
Most Hololive music is trash

1.Reach out to reviewers and music bloggers/vloggers to get their opinions about group.
2.Host a listening party for industry professionals and influencers to gain valuable feedback.
3.Apply for opportunities to perform in live events such as music festivals, concerts, and fan events.
4.Release short covers or music videos on your social media channels to keep fans engaged.
5.Connect with other artists, music managers, event organizers, and concert venues to get support and recommendations for debut.
6.Network with other industry professionals and form relationships with influential people who can offer valuable information and connections.
7.Utilize social media platforms like Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, and Tiktok to promote group and upcoming debut.

>>58059390
holostars will save them

>>58059390
They shilled holostar so much that they ended performing worse than then, a modern plot twist, truly beautiful

Maybe instead of Cover pushing this "they are going to be marketed at a different audience" for them, that maybe they should have stuck with their core audience instead lol. Especially when this branch was shown to be directly tied to the female Hololive branch, why try to appease an entirely new audience? Cover probably just wants to cash in on the normies/tiktok/etc, I cannot think of any other reason and it doesn't even seem to be working out for them.

>>58060242
Are they actually advertised to a different audience though? Does anyone know about this that isn't already into holo?

>The collabs after their debuts is on the official dev_is channel
They really are trying to make them fail.

>>58060355
Its what alot of JP fans on Twitter are saying mostly, that they are trying to appeal to Kpop fans or whatever

>>58059474
Watame is the greatest singer of all time

>>58060492
>Also Gura's outfit stream is gonna overlap them
What an absolute mess kek

>>58060602
Actually delusional

>>58059390
Turns out the real unity was nobody wants the homos mixed in with idols. That just doesn't work.

>>58059799
Thanks boss.

>>58059390
>Interact with homos
>Hype lost
Many such cases

>>58059390

@Rektloose
@homopiss

https://youtu.be/qColmKRjojE?si=keWKMv0cESXMI51x

Roboco-san, you can rest, we got a new target to mock their subs now

>>58059390
Why are we pretending the culls didn't happen?

>>58061759
It's fun to shit on them now while it's low then switch sides if their number goes up a lot.

>>58059390
Three things killed ReGLOSS. Terrible models, being put in a separate branch from Hololive for some reason, and interacting with Homostars. Maybe Yagoo will learn from this blunder.

Imagine getting into Hololive and then your free ticket to fame gets fucked up by the management trying out their new awesome ideas. I would honestly be livid at the complete fuck up this has been

>>58059390
They tried to generate hype by making it mysterious and vague, but it only confused everyone. No one really knows who are their target audience at this point unless you work at Cover.
Vtubing is still a niche area, if their target audiences are normies, the lack of PR are hurting their numbers. The recent stars shilling by Cover also didn't help them either.
Their debuts needs to be something fantastic that no one has ever done before, or else they will just fade into irrelevancy.

>>58059799
Reach out and then what? They got NOTHING to show.
The avm was average forgettable idol slop.

Do they want ot be a legit band? Put out a legit band performance.

>>58061759
>muh cull
Losing to homos is a dead sentence no matter the cope

>>58062521
Who even wants a band? 5 random girls holding Unity asset instruments during a 3D stream or Polka DJing is enough of band thing for me

>>58062598
>Who even wants a band?
Cover is trying to attract a new fanbase and they seem to be doing a horrible job hyping them up so far.

>>58062558
Wrong.
Also *death sentence.

Iirc tempus had more subs before debut....

>>58062728
Are they even a band? The whole thing is so badly marketed that I have no idea

>>58062728
If they want a new fanbase they should focus in making something so good that goes out of hololive bubble and hits the normie sphere, like Marine's "Showa Era" concert, making random projects will only push away old fans and won't even arrive at their desired audience

>>58060574
I just find it funny that other than stuff like logos, designs, names, etc, they are debuting this like any other gen. How are they actually planning to reach this other audience? It doesn't feel like they are.

It has been known since 2009 than launching an virtual idol group without an proper interactive media ( anime/video game) is a fucking mistake. Doing so in 2023 should only earn you contempt.

>>58062598
>>58062728
>>58062847
>>58062878
Watch them debut in prosekai/bandori/other similar shit. That's the whole point.

>>58062847
They are not a band. They will just sing and dance like any other Japanese idol.

>>58062558
Lol it's over

>>58059390
They will get better after debuts

>>58060602
I think she has a really good voice, but most songs are really hit or miss, but she was one of the first singers I listened in holo, so maybe I'm just a bit biased

>>58060795
>overlaping with the new girls
Typical goobs

>>58062948
They are signaling that they aren't for the hololive demographic. Ok, Message received. Doesn't sound like they have any idea how to get the actual audience they want though. Probably better for existing hololive fans if it fails anyway.

>>58061854
>it’s fun pretending to be retarded!
you and the rest of the catalogue monkeys in this thread deserve the rope

>>58062847
Are they even singing?
I'm not sure, you can argue well duh music pv, but every gen has music pv or shit like that. I mean they are singing for sure, but marketing is so bad if you didn't know Hololive, you wouldn't know what the fuck is up with this

>>58062558
holy fuck thats grim fr

>>58063210
The question here is how much anon

>>58063313
You are literally dark skinned though, why should I listen to your opinion on this? We are just having fun, shitting on them in isolated echo chamber, when they debut, if they are to my, or I'm sure most of this breads liking we will say woohoo let's go girls.

>>58062728
>alienates the existing fanbase
>wants a new fanbase that doesn't exist
The JP branch needs to be disinfected from this western thinking

>>58062948
the answer is that they're not gonna reach a new audience and this project is gonna be shitcanned before the end of the year, regloss will be closed and Dev_is will be indoctrinated into the main branch, this is inkk music all over again

>>58062558
I would never have believed this was possible, pretty crazy. A master class in bad marketing.

>>58060795
>>58063275
>collab stream 9/10 9 p.m.
>outfit stream 9/11 9 a.m.
actual mouth-breathing retards

>>58059390
This is AzKi season 2. Separate from the main branch, ugly models, generic/ non-innovative music. AzKi inclined when she appealed to the gaming audience in the HoloBox with her new models after she joined Hololive proper. These new girls are on the road to ruin. You'd think after all these years management would be somewhat competent, but alas, lol and lmao.

>>58062558
This must be included as an bad example of marketing in marketing studies by how much they fucked up

>>58063441
>literally dark skinned
not a SEAschizo
>n-no it is fun!
kill yourself

>>58059474
all*
FTFY

>>58062558
>cope
They went from 80k to 20k within two days. BEFORE THEY EVEN DEBUT YOU FUCKING NIGGER

>>58063991
60k cover bots trying to fuel artificial hype on a failed project, nothing of value was lost

>>58060602
I love Watame but she's really not.

>>58064067
Now *that's* the cope

>>58059390
Imagine you find the recipe to success and then decide that "you know what, let's try something different based on all of our failed projects".

>>58059390
>>58062558

Virtual Youtuber?
More like the VIRTUAL BOY of vtubers.

>>58063828
Don't seethe anon, just close the thread.

>>58064109
cope on what, that regloss is doa? i don't need to cope, the numbers show the fact

>>58064067
>artificial hype
I don't see a blue dorito there

Funny how this problem is 100% their fault. A bunch of retards running the company

>>58063991
Why aren't those culled people re-subscribing? At worst they were bots. At best they were real people who didn't even bother re-subbing because they didn't like what they saw from ReGLOSS. Actually, I'm not sure which is worse.

>>58064185
>the numbers show the fact
>the numbers slashed by literal Jewtube bot by 75%

>>58059390
>be cover exec
>thinks as long as it's girls, the pigs will watch, sub, and throw money
>this happens
what do

I fell for the rrat that it was going to be mixed genders

>>58063991
>80k
60k was their peak before the culls which is not that high either. Advent had more than 100k in the same timeframe

>>58064145
how about all of you fuck off and stop shitting the catalogue?

>>58064252
It's plausible that some folks paying enough attention to sub immediately are also paying enough attention to see a lot of stuff they don't like.

>>58064252
Resubscribing takes time even for ACTIVE CREATORS and yes they get culled too. Not as drastic as contentless channels.
I realize I'm screaming into hate mob but whatever, we're all anonymous anyway.

>>58064282
Too early to say that, but I kinda agree with the way cover thinking, even the runtiest JP holos doing good, makes sense they would think that. You can screencap and grudgepost, I'll be glad to be proven wrong, but if it goes the way it going, it's definitely not gonna be a success, just not a complete failure.

>>58064282
>thinks as long as it's girls, the pigs will watch, sub, and throw money
This would have worked if ReGLOSS used the Hololive brand, looked visually appealing, and most importantly didn't interact with Homos.

>>58064355
But you are the one shitting up this thread, anon, I'm talking about our cute runts. Are you gonna stop seething? Can't be good for your health, yes I'm concernfag.

>>58064386
>we're all anonymous anyway
That's what you think JASON.

>>58064116
Because it wasn't "real commonism" before chud.

>>58064444
>quads
THE NUMBER MASON, WHAT DOES IT MEANS?

None of this will mean much until the actual debut numbers come in.

>>58064386

JASON NEED MORE DOPAMINE

>>58064518
>This booba cope.

It's crazy to me how much Hololive as a company hates their actual audience and wants to chase that mythical audience who likes things on social media but doesn't actually show any real support. Massive companies have gone bankrupt doing this but a comfortable yet niche Hololive is wanting to do it for no apparent reason. It's especially weird because most of their existing talents don't really seem that excited for the future.

>>58064386
>I realize I'm screaming into hate mob but whatever, we're all anonymous anyway.
I don't have a problem with Tempus but it's unusual that Advent wasn't culled but Regloss is getting multiple culls. Cover is either using bots or Regloss has been unlucky.

>>58065327
Is mass report possible? I'm a dumbfuck and barely into streaming and youtube as it is
I just know the one way to ruin a 2 view career...

>>58059390
we don't know yet what kind of live content they'll actually provide but I'd be sad if I was offered a place in hololive just to prop up stars, hope that's not the case.

Imagine being a Cover manager and having to explain to the new talents that they need to tweet at the holostars because the higher ups said so

>>58061950
I wonder if they were put in another branch because random reason or because they wanted an excuse for them to flop after interacting with faggotstars?

>>58063991
Tempiss had their channels up over a week before debut as well.

>>58065902
At this point they're below even the homos, they need all the help they can get.

>>58059799
Thanks ChatGPT

>>58066327
Yeah but they didn't get the axe
I remember SOME holo did, but not this drastic

>>58065299
>but doesn't actually show any real support
Wow, would be a shame if your feelings were overruled by facts.

>>58061950
>Terrible models
Are they? When I saw their idol outfits I loved Ririka and Hajime, but when models actually were revealed Hajime is kinda eh, okay, Ririka is good and Raden grew on me a lot.

>>58066480
Hey man, im sure you get far in life if you scoff off everything as bad luck.

>>58066003
>an excuse
It's more on the
>We need a branch that can safely collab with Stars without possible backlash
They are hoping that this new audience will end up watching the dudes too since the girls will be open to them from the start

>>58066601
I'm just feel a sense of foreboding
If it was just one or two, sure, but all five culled uniformly like that just concerning.
If this happened to Advent this board would be on fire from hyperactive rodents.

>>58066479
Ayame must be the most efficient streamer of all time

sorry
blue dorito buff machine broken
should have added "hololive" in their channel name

>>58066674
Somehow it seems instead that it killed them before the start of the race.
The saddest part is the work of the girls in hololive is paying for this anchor tossed into the abyss.

>>58066886
>the work of the girls in hololive is paying for this anchor tossed into the abyss
What does this even mean? The girls work for a company, the company takes its share and does what it wants with their money.

>>58067164
In fanatic eyes Hololive corporation exist to please them and HAD to invest back to the girls otherwise it's a betrayal.
Laughable mindset. Hololive is like this before go public, and will go this way afterwards. Yagoo is a saviorfag who truly cares for his bleeding 2 view. He hasn't changed in three years. Only the fanbase does.
He WILL save the homos, and he will save Dev Is. Or go bankrupt trying.

Remember when nothing happened hours after countdown teaser thing? Fucking kek of a management, I wonder if they still commit sudoku over incompetence

>>58067326
And yes, I am a sleep deprived ESL Seanigger. What the fuck is tenses?

>>58067164
The same thing as a Sportsball CEO buying 3 new hotels because his team won the SuperBall.
Except he builds the new hotels and then shoots rockets into them because it'd be funny to destroy it.

At least he created jobs for the cleanup crew :^)

>>58067326
>in fanatic eyes
In a sane person’s eyes the company would invest more into it’s actually well performing talents and branches instead of using resources to try to bolster failing parts. If Holo viewers wanted to watch mixed collabs they’d just go watch Niji, pushing the homos constantly only creates more resentment towards them from an audience that has made it clear they aren’t interested.

>>58066398
Male accessory branch below the males. Makes sense i guess.

>>58059474
I usually agree but i actually liked their debut song.

>The boy (female) is the most popular one
based

>>58066479
What does this prove exactly? This has nothing to do with the post you are replying to, unless you are implying Ayame fans hate Hololive or something?

>>58067589
That's not Yagoo's vision and you know it
Male branch has always been planned
Male collab has always been on the table
It's just unicornfags mistook the appearance of pure virgin troopers, only because the competition was blacksanji.
Hololive will rise and die in his hand. If he was forced to quit somehow or decided to pack up, the shareholders are even worse and wanted to prostitute your oshi.
I wish I'm fucking kidding.

>>58063837
ever aki song is a banger lil bro

>>58063690
Okay but did you take into account that in some alternate dimension that doesn't have "time" as we know it where everything happens all at once....

Yeah in that dimension the AM and PM stream are overlapping.

Check and Mate

People are mocking them now but as soon as they get good numbers, you faggots are gonna go on a complete 180. This has happened time and time again and it will never change and you expect Cover to take you seriously? Complete jokes every single one of you.

>>58068393
you need to go back.

>>58061759
It happened, everyone knows it happened. Yet (A LOT) ppl haven’t resubbed? Gee I wonder why

>>58068840
>everyone knows it happened

>>58068910
Reddit, X, YouTube, /vt/. Sorry man but if you are not on any of those sites you probably don’t watch Vtubers

>>58059390
>cover wastes all this money on whatever the fuck this even is that's just gonna end up like project miko, INNK, Hope etc., anyway
>can't even utilize the expensive studio they built because not enough staff
why didn't they concentrate on getting the shit they paid for and desperately need up and working at full capacity before wasting money on some nebulous shit no one asked for?
does no one in cover go
>hey guys I think this is a dumb idea
?

>>58069220
>X
>X>X>X>X>X>X>X>X>X

>>58067891
>That's not Yagoo's vision and you know it
>Male branch has always been planned
>Male collab has always been on the table
Unicorns don't care if a new branch of girls regularly collab with Holostars. Their fear is that Regloss is a test and Cover is planning a HoloPro mixed gen. That a year from now Tempus will be performing with HoloEN at the next EN concert. That 2 years from now their will be a mixed gen. That Yagoo wants to destroy the wall that separates Hololive from Holostars.

>>58059390
Zzzzz

>triple culled by Nu-Susan
or
>Getting abandoned
either way, hilarious

>>58059390
First time that I respect youtube incompetence, even the lucky gods are behind unicorns, Fagoot doesn't stand a chance

>>58067891
>That's not Yagoo's vision
Yagoo's vision will be overridden just like Omega's vision was overridden in Holo EN.
>Male branch has always been planned
Time to fix that mistake.
>Male collab has always been on the table
Time to take it off the table.

>>58071248
>comparing Yagod with Omegay
and don't even bring that Rusky Chink

>>58071451
Yagoo must appease shareholders now. The fool gave up his godhood and now he bends the knee.

>>58071248
Cope and seethe

>>58071567
The shareholders who want to fuck your oshi
Physically
And he's keeping them at bay
Welcome to Holo Production

>>58071642
The closet fag board is /fit/, not /vt/

>>58059390
>lack the triangle
>interact with the homos

>>58071642
Cope and seethe

>Hololive DEV_IS ReGLOSS
Try to come up with a worse name I fucking dare you.

>>58071931
Nijisanji.

>>58071931
Vezalius Bandage

>>58071931
Holostars Tempus Headquarters

>>58071931
>Hololive DEV_IS ReGROSS

>>58071931
DICKPUNKS

>>58068067
Deepthroat a shotgun and blow your nonexistant brain off

>>58070216
Projecting much?

>>58071931
gawr gura

>>58059390
It's obvious that they'll get 70k+ views on their debut, word of mouth on Twixxer will spread like crazy like it always does, the subs will be "corrected" after that.

>>58064252
I am subbed to 400 channels, you think I can track which of those youtube randomly decides to unsub me from one day? Once they unsub you they also do a soft shadowban on that channel preventing you from seeing their uploads on the feed

>>58069693
>does no one in cover go
>hey guys I think this is a dumb idea
you've clearly never worked in a corpo environment. Every higher up/executives have their agenda and face to prop up in order to compete against each other. No one dare says "that's dumb" except for the ceo since other execs would rather see their competition flop and fail, which in turn would get them closer to the successor's seat. So at the end of the day, it's all yagoo's responsibility and fault.

>>58059390
Don't care, still gonna watch Raden

>>58059390
They're getting the divine punishment, simple as that.
The company got greed and wants to discard their previous supporters to achieve an even bigger audience, the girls partake in that action ignoring all the history about the company and stepping on the face of people who are loyal and the artists helped the sin by drawing something that appeals to the masses. But nothing gets broken in silence, now it's the time to raise our voices and make the evil pay for what it's done

>>58059390
what even is the branch though, if Cover wanted people to be interested they should have explained what the branch is, what they're trying to do with it, why it's a separate branch, etc.

Zero explanation or communication means no-one knows if it's supposed to be something for them

>>58059390
>people don't like whores
Why are you surprised? Harlots are looked down since ancient times

>>58059390
they will still make a massive comeback with the debuts

>>58073348
They don't want people interested, they are trying to deliberately appeal to a new audience. Cover has been trying to alienate their fans for a while (see: Holizontal or the Nene fiasco).

>>58070216
Their fears are well grounded because that's obviously the intention and has been so for some time. Cover is hell-bent on recreating the Niji experience. The fact that they have been so vague about Regloss suggests the plan is very clearly to collab them a lot with Holostars, and they are being quiet for fear of a backlash.

This is a stupid strategy, IMO. They have invested time, money and effort in training these girls and their insistence on male collabs might ruin them out the gate.

>>58067589
>In a sane person’s eyes the company would invest more into it’s actually well performing talents and branches instead of using resources to try to bolster failing parts
Let see
>Gura is a lazy ass who does not even invest in her own music. Meanwhile, Kiara already released an album and Mori is with Universal.
>Kronii fell off hard and barely streams
>Meanwhile the runts of EN have done more for the branch and the company than the holos mentioned above
So why Yagoo should invest in EN when their top talents barely do shit and the runts did everything by themselves?

>>58078622
>So why Yagoo should invest in EN when their top talents barely do shit and the runts did everything by themselves?
Because Holo EN is a better investment than Stars JP and Tempus.

>>58071931
Gawr Gura
Recent gen Niji names are both uninspired and shit too
Honestly the homos somehow have the coolest names. I'm fucking envious.

>>58078067
That doesn't make sense. It'd be one thing to market them to someone else, but they're not marketing them properly at all to anybody, and it's clear given how anemic their pre-debut sign-ups are.

If they want another audience, they have to tell that audience they're out there first. Otherwise, they'd better suck it up and mend fences with their Unicorn fambase before their investment in Regloss goes to waste.

>>58079457
>It'd be one thing to market them to someone else, but they're not marketing them properly at all to anybody, and it's clear given how anemic their pre-debut sign-ups are.
They LITERALLY marketed it as music group.
1. It was a weak-ass marketing
2. They didn't learn from past experience
But
>>58079457
>their investment in Regloss goes to waste.
Yagoo wouldn't consider it a waste even if they ended up 2 view
Which is downright impossible.

>>58062273
Imagine you are a member of the new hololive generation and your newlt released original song doesnt even get a tweet from @Hololive_En, not one single tweet, not even a retweet, while they make 85 posts about homostars doing absolutely nothing out of the ordinary
because that already happened

>>58068840
Because most people don't spend 20 hours a day autistically discussing this shit like most people on this board do so they probably don't even know it happened

Homobeggar containment branch

>>58059969
>>58060145
STOP POSTING ABOUT HOMOS! I'M TIRED OF SEEING IT! THE FANS OF HOLOLIVE THINK ABOUT HOMOS, ON NIJI IT'S FUCKING HOMOS! I was on the catalog, right? and ALL OF THE THREADS were just homos. I-I DMed my dakimakura to my oshi and I taped a banana to the bottom and I said "hey babe, when the daki is MALE HAHA COCKS COCKS COCKS COCKS COCKS COCKS COCKS COCKS" I fucking looked at the new Holo Dev_IS girls and said "THEY DEFINITELY HAVE PENISES." I looked at my penis and I think of my oshi taking a way bigger one from another man and I go HOLOLIVE?? MORE LIKE HOMO COCK. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHGESFG

>>58082251
homos are the trannies of vtubing

>>58062273
management at cover is so fucking dogshit, they should be ashamed that their incompetence is kneecapping their talents like this. Why make their jobs so much harder than it needs to be? They're the ones actually bringing in the bacon, and yet these assholes prepare them for the battle by tying their hands behind their back, it's braindead

>>58082421
as well as fucking this branch up, their attempts to shill this branch and homos have led to them completely ignoring the more successful advent, leaving them devoid of promotion during their key growth period
They're doing alright but they'll never do as well as they could have if management had supported them instead of burying them in homo and regloss shilling

I just don't get why they would force girls who want to do idol content into doing esports shit, then turn around and debut a separate branch dedicated to the same shit hololive does anyway, when they could have just debuted an esports branch to do the esports shit and made ReGLOSS into Gen 7. It's like they're actively making the least logical choices.

>>58083557
>It's like they're actively making the least logical choices.
Cover expanding faster than they can consolidate. Left hand didn't work with right hand, and the head had a savior complex.

There's another branch that's not looking too good, I mean imagine making it to debut even without getting terminated
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ilEFek9Y3k&t=569s

Fuck I feel bad for them. Imagine you get a once in a lifetime chance to join hololive and then they put you in some weird side branch that they didn't properly advertise and so no one will watch.

>>58084169
>imagine making it to debut even without getting terminated
Or graduating en-masse before debut
That was the funniest shit. Definition of black company red flags.

>>58071931
>Hololive DEV_IS ZENLOSS

>>58062558
>muh cull
>post screenshot after culls
Good job retard.
If youtube ever got it's dick out of it's own ass we would have everyone in council be over 1m already

This is the anti-Plave. Japanese, female and a failure

>>58060355
You can tell by the character designs

>>58085708
If they have to resort to Sajaegi like shitty kpop fags #4789048056 then they'll really be done for

>>58060795
You do know that overlap means around the same time. They aren't even close to each other.

nijichad here, can someone fill me in why the usual catalog trannies are in an uproar spamming about this new holo girls gen? from all the hate they're receiving you'd think they're part of holostars or something. what happened to make them deserving of all this hate?

>>58086324
>what happened to make them deserving of all this hate?
>all humans with realistic anime design instead of cartoon cunnies
>not much lore other than music
>friendly with holostars on twitter
>considered a third branch even though A-chan said they're part of Hololive proper (note: A-chan is bullshitting here)
>No doritos + separate channel support the point above
The rrat from unicorns and shitposters are they're supposed to be ultimate homo-collab generation and appeal to general audience, like Nijisanji does.

>>58086632
thanks pako-sensei. to me it seemed like they were just doing another normal gen so i didn't get any of this. the black/white hair girl has a cool design imo, i love gothic lolita style.

>>58060355
Nah it won't work, you can tell by Hope and Gamers branch

>>58086324
>new group develop to attract new audience outside holobox
>begged for subs in holobox
This group is a JP version of "Fuck around, Find out"

>>58087291
>post-culled numbers

>>58059390
what why did they lost like 30k subs each ?
what kind of yab did I miss or YT is just retarded ?

>>58087443
Im being generous anon
They wouldnt get this number if foobs didnt shill them this morning

>>58087724
Youtube killed their subs at least twice so far.

>>58087743
FBK is shilling them in the exact way she shilled failed homo gens like uproar
Exceptionally grim

>>58087724
They lost 30-40k sub to youtube culling
It is normal for "Content free" channels to get culled, but the sheer scale of it happening here was disastrous.
>5 of them at the same day, TWICE
>Lose 60-70% their subs, and not 10-20%
If I'm insane I'd rrat to near death about jewtube and other bad actors, but no, this is just plain bad luck + algorithm being a nigger.

>>58088015
oh shit thanks for info
feel kinda bad for them :/ especially my wife Raden

>>58059390
It's holo burnout. The japs just got FuwoMoco last week. The same thing happened with star wars after the ham solo movie

>>58087291
Even if they gain back the 30k they lost it's still far from HoloX and Advent, even ID3 got way more

>>58088015
management could have prevented it, they know how

instead they fucked it all up for them

>>58087291
Theyre getting culled again
Are they botting subs?
This constant culling never happen this long
and constantly?

>>58078598
The problem is that Cover is trying to have it both ways. They want unicorn money from their coomerbait swimsuit events and GFE merch but will than debut Regloss to appeal to women and mainstream idol fans. These half measures will probably not work since they will piss off current fans while getting a small number of new fans.

>>58059390
They're self-professed whores. At least they were upfront about it, but I'm not gonna watch them.

They don't have Official JP Gen 7 buff. They will have to do it the hard way, organically grow your subs

>>58093410
they still have a huge buff compared to vtubers from any other agency or indies

even 1/10th the holo buff is still enough that if you're actually appealing you can leverage it into absurd levels of success. The question is whether any of these girls actually have the sauce

>>58093410
well they want to have new audience so this is quite normal (although those subs they get are all from holobox)

>>58064116
why do you hate new things

>>58093666
>The question is whether any of these girls actually have the sauce
if they don't have the raw sauce, they'll need to ketchup.

>>58094174
but this new thing is dumb?
>get a successful shilloX group
>get a successful advent group
>oh! I have an idea! Lets forgot all of those and remake our mistake from the past (It'll work this time right?)

>>58094174
I prefer to eat chicken for the 100th consecutive time in the lunch than changing the menu and they serving shit to me

>>58059390
Don't worry. Gura will tell everyone to go watch them. That's why she always comes back in times of need.

>>58094809
>non-cgdct chubbas
>gooba shilling them
Like oil and piss

>>58095660
Hololive only grows stronger >:3

The End of Hololive

>>58093189
100% botting
i can guarantee you that the subs that were culled are less that 1 year old, with some bot names like "123jsadhgausd" and subbed only to hololive channels
hololive is trying to use bots to appease the investors, but youtube is raping them in the ass, the constant spikes in subs are the evidence of it

>>58059390
ReGross does nothing but regress

>>58098609
it is what it is

>>58059390
I'll go sleep, I can't wait to see how much of a flop they'll be after I wake up and they already finished their debut

>>58059390
Because their real market is zhangland, this is cover’s assault team to infiltrate the bug market. They are trying to compete with the top chink vtubers grp asoul.

>>58059390
recovery soon

>>58059474
anyone who listens to idolshit doesnt have ears or a soul

I wouldn't even be surprised if Cover started botting them due to the low number of subs. I've never been unsubbed from any channel before

You know it's pretty telling when Kiara hasn't swooped in to praise and welcome the new girls. Hell, one of them even gave her praise about her music and so far nothing.

>>58082251

I like how the debuts are in a few hours and I've not seen any advertising for the debut streams

>>58107534

Dead on arrival. Ngmi. Yagoo will rent out devis girls for compensated dating. I rather sub to asanagis sextoy corpo.

>>58107669
Yeah I'm willing to give them a chance if they are adult vtubers and I can watch 3D streams where they are having sex with each other

dev is, fuck them. they are nothing more than the last plan from yagoo to rescue holostars

>>58098849
Normally, I would never suspect Cover of botting, but fan response to this gen has been so overwhelmingly negative I've become suspicious that they are indeed trying to bot the hell out of ReGLOSS to try to get some organic growth going.

The problem is there's been too many hints that this gen is aimed at "someone else" and the traditional Holo fanbase has picked up on it and appears to be staying away. Cover has not, as far as I can tell, done much of anything to market this gen at their new desired target market (whoever that might be).

Coupled with terrible character designs (meant to be sexually unthreatening to femcels and to keep them from overshadowing Holostars), confusing branding, and the overall lack of hype, this launch might really be in trouble. I'm prepared for them to flop harder than Council, but I don't think they'll end up as 2views.

As others have noted, they'll probably all be playing Minecraft and flirting with their chats in a month once it becomes clear the initial hopes/plans for them didn't work out. Perhaps this upcoming disaster will finally get Cover to stop trying to force Holostars on Hololive fans.

>>58059390
I'm still confused, what are they

>>58107991
>>58108097
You keep mentioning the stars but do you actually think them responding to them on twitter is what makes the difference? The vast majority of people don't stalk their replies. I doubt that this is really a factor and nothing except the shitposting angle would have changed if they didn't talk to them.
I think they fumbling around "this is a new hololive gen" "actually they are not a new hololive gen" is what's messing it up.

>>58108291
>You keep mentioning the stars but do you actually think them responding to them on twitter is what makes the difference?
Nta, but yes

>>58108218
Suisei divided by 5 but without the publicity.

I wonder what the higher ups are currently thinking looking at these initial numbers.

>>58108291
It's not really the Stars stuff on Twitter alone which is doing it. It's a combination of factors:

1. Holo fans are increasingly anxious about Cover's efforts to copy Nijisanji and how attempts to have their vTubers collab more with men are increasing.

2. Cover is seeking to 'grow its audience" which means moving outside the traditional market and fanbase. This is sensible for a young growing company which has just gone public. But it's led to fan anxiety that in the future, it will mean less content aimed at them.

3. This gen is being artificially firewalled from Hololive. There are rrats that this is because the gen is planned to collab heavily with Holostars

4. This gen's designs are very generic and there are rrats that this is because they want the girls to appear as unthreatening to femcels as possible since they're meant to complement Holostars and appeal to female fans.

5. Cover has been extremely quiet about what this gen is supposed to be doing and what the plan is, which also fuels the rrats. This is a new Hololive branch that's being introduced, but instead of going crazy hyping them Cover continues to be very vague about what makes them different.

Frankly, I think the rrats are largely correct. After the massive culling of pre-debut subs, Cover has still not done much to publicize them and get people, which suggests to me the intent WAS to make them a complement for Holostars and seed the ground for a mixed gender JP gen 7.

>>58108517
>these initial numbers.
1347 waiting for Ao, assuredly less for everyone else
I'm definitely looking at holostar level of public anticipation here, as in, not much, but that is a thin line between slightly profitable and no profit at all.
I just hope they don't reach Flayon level, because that's just grim.
>>58108685
>Frankly, I think the rrats are largely correct. After the massive culling of pre-debut subs, Cover has still not done much to publicize them and get people, which suggests to me the intent WAS to make them a complement for Holostars and seed the ground for a mixed gender JP gen 7.
That is retarded. If they truly want to do that, they would do maximum publicity damage control.
What I am seeing is cover rolling nat 1 after nat 1. Failure from top to bottom.

>>58108796
>What I am seeing is cover rolling nat 1 after nat 1. Failure from top to bottom.
They are not failing due to rng, they are failing because they keep making really fucking dumb decisions

>>58108685
Honestly the complementing holostars angle is just a complete bs to me. It's some hyper cognitive bias to see everything about them as holostars this holostars that.
>This gen is being artificially firewalled from Hololive.
Holos have been talking about them more than any other new gen.
>This gen's designs are very generic and there are rrats that this is because they want the girls to appear as unthreatening to femcels as possible
Or they simply want some female and general audience because that's the market they didn't saturate yet?
>Cover has been extremely quiet about what this gen is supposed to be doing
They've been shilling them being music focused nonstop. They just feel like they've said what they need to and don't realize are bad at communicating.
It's like people take any point and then try to play mental gymnastics on how it could be holostars related and then just keeep mentally digging themselves into that hole.

>>58109105
>Or they simply want some female and general audience because that's the market they didn't saturate yet?
Not by Cover. It is pretty much Niji territory. That might explains the shit number.

>>58109246
It's not Nijisanji.
They're going for the vsinger audience like with Kamitsubaki and Riot Music

>>58109378
>Regloss is just Cover trying to desperately copy V.W.P.
That actually makes a lot of sense. VWP has anime deals and millions of views, something investors love.

they were literally just culled again. it's like they're not allowed to have more subs than this. what the fuck is going on?

I take it that this branch aren't going to be streamers?

>>58109433
Neal hates them. To be honest i think they should just cope and grow their channels normally instead of trying to drum it up predebut.

>>58109433
>6k cull
WHAT THE FUCK YOUTUBE

>>58109433
So sad, maybe cover should look into the belo jogo brand of bots.

>>58109477
A-chan said they will stream but be music focused. No idea how much streaming that means.

>>58108291
it's a factor but not the only factor
>Shilling Uproar so hard they instated an overlap ban
>Shilling Tempus so hard they shut down the reddit
>"lololive" brand twitter accounts heavily shilling stars
>HLZNTL being a fucking mess and the girls literally only being there as window dressing to promote the stars
>DEV_IS being clearly not aimed at existing hololive fans
>Hololive 6th anniversary stream skipping hololive branches and events to talk about stars
It's all a pretty clear pattern

>>58109539
>Hololive 6th anniversary stream skipping hololive branches and events to talk about stars
For two minutes
Two fucking minutes
I know Unicucks are petty but Jesus Christ

>>58109433
Did the Dev_is channel also get culled?

>We think you're too problematic as afanbase and our sponsors would prefer women they can meet IRL
>Oh no please wait subscribe and watch the debuts so that we can replace you later!

>>58109592
yes

>>58109539
Enough that I've withdrawn support from the overall box and only stay subbed and membered to my Kamioshi and other decent holos. I get the unspoken message that I'm not welcomed anymore anyways, been that way all my life so that's fine.

It’s a perfect example of “fuck around find out”. Trust in Cover is below ground level (it’s so insanely low that even nips are shitting on them publicly on Twitter using their main accounts, which is extremely rare to see). The amount of out of topic shilling of holostars, the way they are trying to mimic vspo (when precisely vspo started to copy hololive to achieve success) by playing fps and forcing holos to play them, even to play them against males, and the fact they got laplus who gets all the support from Cover while doing nothing but stuff that hurts hololive and its idol brand (popular streamers’ dick chasing, male collabs, throws dirt against her senpais, literally only cares about playing games with popular dudes, skips every hololive event she can, etc) made me not only not care about new gens or branches but to completely not want them at all.
The sole idea of getting more ambassadors for that kind of shit makes me sick. And if what that doxxnigger said is true two of the new girls are from laplus’ clique. It couldn’t look more grim desu.

>>58109580
That is a 120 seconds too long

>>58109580
people might have accepted those 2 minutes as part of a comprehensive overlook of everything but when they skipped hololive branches to cover them it pissed people off
you can cry about unicorns all you like, you'll just be a retard

>>58109539
>>58109660
It's like when a holo ignores all the normal comments and single out the anti comments and goes menhera over it, /vt/ ignores everything and singles out the small instances that offend them.
You are the one being one guy'd right now and it took only 2 minutes out of a 1 hour stream.

>>58109433
Youtube is doing a good job filtering out all the people who will not watch them after their debut or even including their debut

>>58109777
They didn‘t skip anything you fucking retard

>>58060574
They're gonna lose if they're trying that. JP idols get trounced by KR ones. Best hope is to get a JP into a KR group like Sakura did.

>>58109777
Watch a stream, faggot

>>58059390
They thought the problem with azki and irys is that they were alone, so they released a whole isolated gen instead, multiplying the problem by 5.

>>58110147
They aren't banned from collabing with the holos like INNK was.

>>58094407
its called risktaking

>>58110200
Yeah and INNK wasn't created to be accessories to loser men

>>58110314
>Yeah and INNK wasn't created to be accessories to loser men
>still believing this shit

>>58109654
I hope that after a bit of half-hearted mandated homo shilling, the tranagement will back off and move to their next fuckup, so the girls will be free to start inclining.

>>58110328
Are you pretending to be retarded?

>>58110314
And Dev_is isn't either, your point?

>>58110382
HLZNTL makes it clear they are

>>58110346
Are YOU pretending to be retarded?
Cover was very clear about their target audience, nijifags, normies, Ktuber fags, and musicfags, and failing to reach a single of them.

>>58110382
Cover successfully fooled the silent majority that they are and that's why they're doing so well right now.

>>58059390
Will he save them?

>>58110408
HLZNTL and Dev_is are two different projects. These girls are singers, not an esports gen.

>>58110428
>nijifags
Accessories to men
>normies
Accessories to men
>Ktuber fans
Accessories to men
>Musicfags
dyrbi

>>58110430
The silent majority simply don't have them on their radar. Only a loud minority here thinks they talked to them on twitter therefore the entire gen's purpose is to suck holostar dick live on stream.

>>58110382
That seems the most likely explanation for the partition. If it were just a music focus they could do that in hololive proper and avoid the debuff.

>>58110556
cope

>>58110343
The problem is that if the girls they got are lapluses then that’s not gonna happen. If you hire an idol and force her to collab with males then she will most likely stay true to her idol ideals after the collab (while treating the collab very professionally), but if you hire a laplus who only wants money and clout to meet and fuck male e-celebs then that’s not gonna happen.
More than Cover forcing the talents what worries me is the kind of talent they are hiring, and seeing their queen and how they are bending everything to appease her content doesn’t look good at all.

>>58087291
Damn, nips or existing Hololive fans do not like them? I thought their group song is kinda good but trash MV
I hope they can regain their subs back after debut

>>58110458
Do you think IRyS is esports?
No, they brought her in to promote homos because nobody actually cares about the homos
They now created a new branch to do things exactly like that

>>58110549
>dyrbi
Not the first time happened. They learned nothing, those dumbshits.
>accessories to men
You know what accessories to men is? GFE.

>>58107669
Don't shitpost with my Mesugaki, you ugly faggot

>>58110658
>Being retarded intentionally

>>58110568
No, it is not the most likely explanation for anything, you made it all up. There are a milkion reasons why it could be and the only one you can think of is homos.
I simply believe they're seperate because some project lead in Cover was like haha what if we did a funny new project and market them differently.

>>58110458
The common denominator of the two are homos. The timing and target audience makes that a very reasonable supposition.

>>58110700
>I simply believe in cope

>>58066818
gura is trying to learn from her

>>58110629
Did you think they specifically wanted IryS? They just scraped together whatever girls they could get that didn't say no to them.

Will they get transferred to Hololive proper like Suisei and Azki if shit still shit after like 3 months in?

>>58110700
You lack pattern recognition, in a better world you'd have been eaten by a tiger or something by now

>>58110810
That depends on what Yagoo consider shit
Dude hang to 2view like they're his firstborn

>>58110726
No I simply take things as they are. You are on some kind of reverse hopium, convincing yourself that something is going to happen that you don't actually want.

>>58110889
>im not coping you're coping
Anon, if you were taking things as they are you wouldn't be arguing like this.

>>58110859
Ah.. your right even shitter like Uyu and tempus 2 still get tons of good thing going on for them, maybe this new branch will be fine, I just hope they won't get discouraged in the future, when the actual Hololive JP7 debut with 300k-400k subs pre debut

>>58110800
exactly, IRyS isnt esports, ReGloss isnt esports, they're both just used as fodder to promote homos, the girls they roped in wouldnt want to do it again so they need a gen that can collab with men properly

>>58110909
Why? He's not the one engaging in rrat, he's the one taking things at face value.
Which one is thinking imaginary situation here?

>>58110966
>he's

>>58110810
At the rate of the cull it might not even be 3 months.
You see nobody knows what happens when yt's troonjeet coded algorithm actually does when it develops a hateboner for a channel like this; does it suppress the channel's growth ever after?
Or does it simply cull subs for a short while until whatever it is that's triggering it stops being an issue? Nobody knows. If it's just the latter then subs will recover in time, but they'll never get to 1million. If it does more than that and affects the long term growth of the channel continually then these poor girls are in for a very trying time ahead.

>>58110976
Most of internet is literally male
If it's 70-80% likely I'm taking the odds.

>>58110841
Brainless pattern recognition when you don't need it is not a good thing. How about you stop and think whether it's a snake or just a cucumber.

>>58111014
Retard, stop pretending to be multiple people

>>58110983
fuck
>You see nobody knows what yt's troonjeet coded algorithm actually does when it develops a hateboner for a channel like this; does it suppress the channel's growth ever after?
ftfm

>>58110983
Cull happens to even top-mid sized creators, they HAD to resolve it manually.
If Cover is half-competent as I hoped (and boy was it a lot of copium on me) they're literally scrambling on the phone and e-mail right now.

>>58110936
Then what does Regloss have to do with Holizontal?

>>58110983
>does it suppress the channel's growth ever after?
I mean holox was hit way harder and one of them still able to get 1M subs
Is it because of this new branch shenanigans? Was it also like this when they debut a main channel + talents channel on the same time? (I think only Tempus did this right?)

Oh and >>58111098 (me) looks like people are still trying to salvage situation. Ao's sub is increasing by 1000 within 45 minutes.
Time to tell if they get culled, again, before the stream.

>>58110966
It's speculation based on evidence. It's not dispositive, but It's far more probable than anything which you've suggested and people have discussed the evidence for it in this thread and others.

>>58062273
>>58066003
>>58082421
>>58082632

We can see you replying to yourself Zhang. Stop embarrassing yourself.

>>58111098
>If Cover is half-competent
They went public and lined up every office worker to bend over so share holders could go to town on their tight asian sphincters

>>58111128
homos

>>58111360
If that's true your oshi would be literal prostitute by now, nigga.
Stop doomposting and wish things got worse for your beloved.

>>58111128
>they need a gen that can collab with men properly
read nigga read

Apparently/#/ is mass reporting the channels to make culls more likely

>>58111382
>>58111393
Do you actually realize you are talking in a circle?
>They are going to collab homos because they are like Holizontal.
>Dev_is is like Holizontal because they are going to collab with homos.
You're literally arguing that A is B because B is A.

>>58111387
I mean, Mel with a month or so being molested...

>>58111495
It. Can. Get. Worse.
Stop hoping it would to own other anon on this cursed board.

>>58111526
True, but it can also get better. If a bunch of rednecks and ghetto kids can shut down Bud Light, why can't a core constituent group tell Cover that this shit is not the direction they want to go?

>>58111488
you are bad at reasoning

Cover wants to push the failed homos and get femcels This creates several initiates, including A)holizontal and B) this branch.

>>58111625
No you are conflating two things that are unrelated just because they are correlated in time.
You don't even have a logical eyplanation for the simplest problem to your theory. If they wanted to push Holizontal why didn't they get an esports gen instead of a singer gen?

>>58111569
Core constituent groups is Japanese, who prefer to leave quietly than complain.
Meanwhile, on the helm is Yagoo, who is a saviorfag and gender equality champion, the OTHER major shareholders want to bend to zhang and have a "chat" with the talents during "shareholder meetings".

>>58111751
>the OTHER major shareholders want to bend to zhang and have a "chat" with the talents during "shareholder meetings".
that wasn't a major shareholder that was just some delusional fan who bought like 3 shares

>>58111569
The separate branch is probably designed to avoid blowback from the existing hololive fans, but there's no reason to care about it for those fans and they don't have a strategy to promote them to other audiences beyond counter-signaling the largely male existent hololive fanbase.

>>58111731
You aren't a smart person. You apparently dislike speculation aka thinking as it can beget rrats, so maybe you should follow your own advise and stop trying. It's just a sad display.

>>58111488
no you're just retarded
>They needed girls to collab with HLZNTL, but those girls were reluctant to do it and would be even more reluctant in future, made it clear management really talked them into it
>This gen of girls was created so they can collab in things like HLZNTL
This is cont a circle or contradictory, you are just not that bright

>Flayon in AO's chat
So it begins
The numbers are up, let's fucking GO!

>>58112015
There's literally not enough time between HLZNTL being unveiled and making a new gen.
You're are looking for reasons to explain your theory that make no sense and then call me stupid for not following your mental gymnastics. If Regloss exists for HLZNTL then why are they singers and not esports gamers?

>>58109815
>It's only a small lump of shit in your meal!

>>58108218
Things for me to LEGAL rape.
*shows Chad license*

>>58112612
>the restaurant I go to has a new meal with broccolis in it
>The steak I usually eat hasn't changed
>the girl on the next table is having the new meal
>fuck this restaurant how dare they.

>>58108363
>Suisei divided by 5 but without the publicity.
Suisei didn't have publicity either
Definition of an underdog

>>58059390
I want to FUCK Raden while she looks at me with her beautiful eyes.

>>58112716
>food analogies
They're intentionally creating a branch of females that will communicate with both the girls we like the homos.
That is all there is to it.

>>58112894
and the homos*

>>58112716
New meal? That was a six year anniversary stream.

>>58112979
Regloss is the new meal.

>>58109433

>...but it did get worse.

>>58113237
31.5k now, 5050 waiting
have faith in tomboy supremacy
The rest though, rip

>>58098849
I think you are right actually, because I haven't been culled even when they got from 70k to 10k