/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>57989049
so close yet so far, next time anon

My cute twin dawgies

that was a successful pussy archival
good job bros

>>57989049
oof, one off. sorry anon

>actual 1500
why is the board so slow?

I was too slow to make "lolis in swimsuits" OP...

>>57989049
rip

The lesson is, you should aim for a higher class of woman

Moom thread

#coom4moom

Clearly the golden gen

>>57989163
mooming time?

>>57989092
>>57989123
> Moom thread
Yea. Im thinking Based.

>>57989092
cringe thread.
btw, what the fuck happened. It was just a run of the mill thread, there weren't any events, why did it reach 1500 posts?

Reminder that you cannot put the genie back in the bottle. Events are now in motion.

>>57989092
/news/ anchor
Reply with a short description of the news and a link to the source!

News from today:
>Towa x geTsuna original duet on Towa's album.
https://twitter.com/tokoyamitowa/status/1699759090598338764

Yesterday's news:
>Marine and Fubuki's radio show is holding another live in-person recording with Sara Hoshikawa as a guest
https://skdw-kouroku-sp.com/150-anniv/
>Ui will debut her 3D loli form on Sept 10
https://twitter.com/ui_shig/status/1699428796586144150
>HACHI sang image song for gacha game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eD66NG9Wms
>ID3 3D showcase in October
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf4WWLd9swI
>Only Up! is going down
https://twitter.com/AUTOMATONJapan/status/1699666931576627289
>Sora released a daki
https://shop.hololivepro.com/en/products/tokinosora_an6th
>Real Sound article about Marine beating the record for fastest vtuber song to 10 million views.
https://realsound.jp/2023/09/post-1426339.html

>>57989174

>>57989035
ah, hitomi-chan...

>no threads for some 3 minutes
>THREE FUCKING THREADS POP UP RIGHT AFTER
ADMIT YOU WERE FAPPING!
>ADMIT IT!

>>57981515
>>57981823
>>57981890
well shit
it seems that gura isn't coming back anytime soon

>3 threads
What is it now?

What is your grimmest debut CCV prediction? What is your most optimistic CCV prediction?

>>57989198
Are you fucking living under a rock and missed all the bullshit from the 6th anniversary stream?

>>57989158
2view groomers are the chubby chasers of the vtubersphere.

GRIM

Remember when Suisei died to that hole and then management told Kiara to close that hole

>>57989198
>why did it reach 1500 posts
This happened

>>57989240
>grim
below 100k
>optimistic
150k

>>57989240
grimmest: 60k
Optimistic: 120k
Depends if holoJP wants to build a spirit bomb for it.

>>57989187
It's always mooming time

noone ever fixed that hole in Minecra foe 3 years wtf

>>57989240
100k should be a given but I don't even know anymore.

>>57989151
>17 years old
Too old.

>>57989022
Anon
The shareholders forced Suisei to wear a bikini
Before that
Yagoo respected Suisei will to not wear a bikini

>>57989265
I genuinely don't. I remember Suisei dying to that hole but "management told Kiara to close that hole" sounds like headcannon

>>57989210

>>57989092

>>57989240
1st girl looks so fucking boring its actually impressive what the fuck

Was it immoral for Cover to take Holo applicants and put them into a new branch? Any 2view will say yes to whatever Cover asked of them but what it the right thing to do? Should they have had a separate recruiting drive? These girls clearly want to be holos and trying to make people think they are.

Also from the last thread
>point of a watchalong
To get more holo fans interested in them because they clearly need it.

>>57989240
Blue 60k
Yellow 40k
Red 45k
Black/grey 40k
UI 50k

>>57989265
Didn't Suisei stop playing MC because of the zenloss?

>>57989246
>>57989278
that happened the thread before, that's why the OP was Sora.

>>57989306
Faster

>>57989240
grimmest is failing 6view, shouldn't be possible with how high JP is flying.

>>57989315
kek, anon, are you aware that before the IPO all of the shares that are currently in the market were in the hands of
>GASP
investors?
(except for a tiny amount Cover sold to fund the studio)

>>57989200
Jap did it, we all thought EN was lost and it was eventually saved.

>Mumei
21k
>Fauna
18k
>Kronii
15k
>Baelz
12k
>Collab
22k

>>57989198
ReGloss shitposting + some increased level of actual discussion now that their L2D are out

>>57989240
>grimmest
it's still hololive 100k
>optimistic
if they're good and sing 150k

I feel retarded enough to make this prediction: the ReGLOSS debuts will be within the 40k-70k range.

anti-stars comments have breached the top comments of the anniversary stream
expect the comment section to get more chaotic in the coming days (unless cover decides to censor it)

>>57989338
no?

>>57989319
https://youtu.be/Wwgb21EbggE

>>57989237
And people thought that the shadow war was a schizo rrat.

>>57989341
Yeah, and the discussion didn't end yet. Hell, it might never fucking end if Cover doubles down on the homo shilling.

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>63,855: Hololive (Hololive)
>45,950: Koyori (Hololive)
>41,652: Sora (Hololive)
>35,756: Pekora (Hololive)
>18,200: Lui (Hololive)
>17,805: Towa (Hololive)
>16,267: Watame (Hololive)
>15,476: Fuwamoco (Hololive)
>13,894: Koyori (Hololive)
>13,583: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>12,688: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>12,219: Fubuki (Hololive)
>11,588: Botan (Hololive)
>10,846: Shiina (Nijisanji)
>10,530: Chloe (Hololive)
>10,122: Hinano (VSPO)
>10,033: GatchmanV (Indie)

>>57989198
>Cover being a cunt
>Kiara being a cunt
>Suzy being a cunt
Anon...

>>57989347

>>57989240
Marin Kitagawa my beloved

Thank god for Marine, now we don't have to worry about whether TFT gets to count or not

>1. Marine Bishoujo Muzai Pirates 38 days 21 hrs
2. Peanuts Kun Christmas 2022 41 days 1 hr
3. Suisei TFT Stellar Stellar 44 Days 6 hrs
4. Marine I'm your Treasure Box 50 days 20 hrs
5. MoriGura Q 51 days 12 hrs
6. GuraMori KING 58 days 10 hrs
7. Kuzuha KING 85 days 3 hrs
8. Gura REFLECT 90 days 4 hrs
9. Luxiem Jazz on the Clock 93 days 14 hrs
10. Laplus God-ish 94 days 1 hr

>>57989338
I follow the Micra server since pretty much the days ID first set foot on it (having missed the original Pekora TTT and the old creative mode server).
Suisei ... other than rare appearances, has she ever even set foot in it? I can't remember ANY permanent structure built by her and, I'm not kidding, I'm considering writing a book on that server

>>57989384
but enough about Regloss debut numbers

>>57989198
ReGLOSS got another set of culls. Numbers are now really bad.

>>57989315
but only the investors shares changed hands, yagoo's block is basically untouched since going public

Hololive cannot have a big female fanbase till their image is that its for a male otaku viewers...
They gonna have to change the image so that females are comfortable talking about them to their other female groups, its easy for them to do that with Niji because its bunch of streamers but with Hololive or Holostars you are announcing to your friends that you are an idol fan hence risking being seen as weird...

We all have that hobby that we love but dont share with other firends thinking they will laugh at you or see you as weird

Post Advent sub numbers

>>57989240
>GRIM
Blue gets 75k
Yellow gets 65k
Red gets 70k
Purple/Oreo gets 60k
White gets 65k

>OPTIMIST
Blue gets 150k
Yellow gets 130k
Red gets 145k
Purple/Oreo gets 125k
White gets 135k

>>57989240
I don't know how JP will react at all. As far as I know, they don't use tools like Holodex so there is a chance they don't go through the effort of seeking it out.
When its a single holo streaming, it is buffed but I feel like there is less of the box intentionally ignoring streams and just them not seeing them being recommended and then just leaving youtube or whatever.
Was the debut marketed correctly?

>>57989435
FASTER

>>57989240
Bros, I'm not gonna sugarcoat it
Raden is so fucked
Closest contemporary to her design I can think of is 1.0 IRyS

>>57989482

>>57989181
Fuwawa’s left hand on Mococo’s ass

>>57989240
god, ririka model is so much better than the others. only hajime is a close one

>>57989240
fuujuutei is ugly

Now that ReGLOSS has been shilled in front of the box and officially welcomed to Hololive, we all agree on these numbers, right?
>Failure territory
90-120k
>Catastrophic underperformance
120k-150k
>Marginal success
150k-180k
>Expected
180k-240k
>Successful debuts
240k+

>>57989331
The new branch itself wasn't immoral but the lack of explicit communication pretty much crippled their early growth.

>>57989492

moomin thread
moomin board

>>57989488
Raden has that 2010s shoujo manga face

>>57989543

>>57989429
>SEPTEMBER 2023 GOLDS
1) Aqua (Hololive) - 45,789 - Apex
2) Iroha (Hololive) - 64,229 - Outfit Reveal
3) Miko (Hololive) - 82,404 - Minecraft
4) Marine (Hololive) - 51,829 - Parasocial
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 48,521 - Armored Core 6
6) Subaru (Hololive) - 106,673 - Oozora Police Minecraft
7) Hololive (Hololive) - 63,855 - 6th Anniversary

>PER COMPANY
7x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
1x: Aqua, Hololive, Iroha, Marine, Miko, Pekora, Subaru

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
172x: Hololive
61x: Nijisanji
8x: Indie
5x: VSPO
4x: Neo Porte

>PER STREAMER
58x: Pekora
21x: Miko
17x: Marine
9x: Nijisanji, Subaru
8x: Hololive, Toya
6x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Suisei
5x: Yashiro
4x: Fuwa, Hal, Iroha, Mio, Shiina, Towa
3x: Chiroru, Leos, Okayu, Koyori
2x: Aki, Flare, Fubuki, Hinano, Ibrahim, Korone, Lamy, Lui, Maimoto, Nerumero, Salome, Shion, Tsukasa, Watame
1x: Air, Ayame, Beni, Chloe, Choco, Fuwamoco, Gaku, Gura, Gundou, Hibari, Himawari, Ina, Kaede, Kanata, Kanato, Kiara, Laplus, Lize, Mel, Mito, Mori, Mysta, Noel, Nose, Nozomi, Nui, Polka, Ponto, Qpi, Rikiichi, Roco, Ryushen, Ui

>>57989240
Dire =Sub 80k, indicating broad disinterest in the project
Grim = 80k, losing to Advent
Expected = 100-110k
Optimistic = 120k-140k same as a relatively popular 3D Live
Insane = 160k+ competitive with Holo X debuts

>>57989200
they put china back in the bottle
just graduated an entire branch

>>57989519
are you the "Vestia" anon of the other day? just call her raden don't be weird

>>57989519
>>57989497
>>57989488
looking from a male's eyes anons

>get an extremely long headphone cable so you can move more freely
>it gets all tangled to fuck all the time
aaaaa numbers bros thanks for reading this

>>57989452
>Hololive cannot have a big female fanbase till their image is that its for a male otaku viewers...
They can't have male otaku viewers if they go for the female market, there is no point killing your core fanbase to chase after something you never managed to get.
There is still a lot of market to expand that doesn't piss off the Male consumer markets.

>>57989552 (me)
this one failed to get faster

>>57989488
all of the designs are shit. they're either boring or bland.

I will give the red-hair girl from ReGloss a shot. If she homocollabs, then...

>>57989518
>>Failure territory
>>Catastrophic underperformance
Is "failure" apocalyptic?

>>57989240
sub 100k is maximally grim
200k+ would be about as optimistic as it gets

Odds on Nerissa never playing block game again after this shit show?

>>57989587
Do women have a particular interest in the Voldemort nose??

>>57989237
Gura is back next week for Myth anniversary week

>>57989240
As of current standings -
Minimum : 90k
Expected : 100k
Not a Flop Territory : 130k+

Homete hoshii na homete hoshii na
Homete kuretara niwari mashi de ganbaru
Mitete hoshii na mitete hoshii na
Homechigirarete nobiru taipu desu
Moo
Sing along to Hololives best OG

>>57989246
I'm personally seething after botched MC run into this terrible tour.
It's not even about Biboo shitting the bed, not having anyone in EN capable of boosting them is nauseating. Just the whiplash of pretending all this history matters when nobody fucking cares.
>the only council thing Kiara showed off was IRyS' actual nothing
ngmi

>>57989635
>shit show
Did anything actually happen or were you just not entertained?

>>57989630
JP debuts getting Council/Advent-tier numbers would be apocalyptic, yes.

>>57989240
around 80k would be pretty grim for JP holos

Fauna... your numbers are not enough to act like Gura...

>>57989488
It's literally an IRyS 1.0 nose

>>57989429
Do Niji stream today?

>>57989240
it could be anything from 50k to 200k, they have practically zero traction

>>57989635
0%, numbers alone are reason enough to play it, she is not a retard like Mori.

>>57989635
100%
if Kiara is on

It would appear my superiority has lead to some controversy.

>>57989635
Ehh why?

>>57989587
It doesn't change much from the female perspective tbf. Ao and Ririka seems to be the girls getting the most fan art (Ao clearly on the lead)

>>57989643
I think he means live content anon

>>57989452
They should get suisei and marine on 24/7 duty to shill ReGLOSS. Those two are the only ones with the reach.

This thread WILL be better
/#/ IS Inclining

>>57989683
MC fags are annoying.
How old are you out of curiosity, under 25?

>>57989488
Raden's playing to her strengths, check our her thumbnail, that will be enough for her to offset her model debuff.

>>57989689
He is just seething after getting kicked out of global

>>57989715

>>57989488
Raden is the best fucking one. The others look like who nijis.

>>57989635
Anon, what did you exactly find "shit" about it? Desperate for attention aren't you?

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

>9/7 DAILY TALLY
15,476: FuwaMoco (Hololive)
9,756: Baelz (Hololive)
9,540: Nerissa (Hololive)
8,250: Amelia (Hololive)
8,192: Shiori (Hololive)
8,015: Vox (Nijisanji)
6,551: Bijou (Hololive)
5,399: Baelz (Hololive)


>EN GOLDS FOR SEPTEMBER 2023
1) Mumei (Hololive) - 21,874 - Unarchived Karaoke
2) Luca (Nijisanji) - 28,501 - NijiMelody Relay
3) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 12,142 - It Takes Two
4) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 11,690 - FuwaMoco Morning
5) Bijou (Hololive) - 11,307 - Elden Ring
6) Amelia (Hololive) - 26,831 - Outfit Reveal
7) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 15,476 - Advent Minecraft

>PER COMPANY
6x: Hololive
1x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
3x: FuwaMoco
1x: Amelia, Bijou, Luca, Mumei

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
19p: FuwaMoco
10p: Bijou
6p: Mumei
5p: Amelia, Luca
4p: Mori
3p: Baelz, IRyS, Pomu, Sonny
1p: Meloco, Nerissa

>>57989409
Better go reporting them to Cover for talents slandering.

>>57989675
The no overlap rule is still in place and the debuts will be during JP primetime. That alone gives them a 150k floor.

>>57989315
that's what i'm saying, they would even ask if they can bring watame to the office to suck them off, but they can't do that in front of ONLINE MEETING and YAGOO

>>57989709
>13,583: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
It seems so

>>57989731
Marine and Suisei have enough clout to say no.

>>57989786
where's the slander?

>>57989635
She's played MC on her own before.

>>57989240
If any (or even all) of them fail to clear 100k for their debuts that would actually be cause for serious reflecting on what went wrong with their launch strategy. I expect 110k-120k, if they manage to get 140k+ I would consider that good considering the botched marketing that they got

>>57989683
Huh? But Kiara was just showing off Fauna's stuff earlier. We even had Nerissa say Fauna was her Council oshi.

>>57989784
What did Vox do?

>>57989240
Ao
80k - 120k
the rest (minus the bland one)
75k - 100k
the bland one
60k - 90k
At the same time if whoever is first manages to actually explain what the fuck is the point of Dev_IS maybe more people will care for the day 2 debuts

>>57989611
No worries

>>57989784
no twitch tally today?

Reminder that today is the final for that Mahjong tourney by Tsukasa so be prepared for the usual fleshbag, Goldship and whatnot argument.

Men's Perspective:
>Ririka > Hajime > Ao > Kanade > Raden
Women's Perspective:
>Ao > Ririka > Hajime > Raden > Kanade
Is that about correct?

>>57989784
FWMC will save us

>>57989832
NijiEN tournament announcement with Selen.

Anyone saying ReGLOSS "should" get over 100k by default is insane.

>>57989784
Wait. Bae failed to hit 10k? Even with the shilling from Mumei?

>>57989776
She has a fucked up face with a clashing art style.

>>57989604
you bought plastic instead of fabric uh? another solution is to have a pivot to increase tension without stressing the connector so that it doesn't tangle easily, i have the ikea MITTBACK for the pc table supporters the holes are godlike to sort the cables

>>57989240
why is kanata debuting again

>>57989784
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
185x: Hololive
61x: Nijisanji
3x: Holostars
1x: Idol

>PER STREAMER
23x: Fauna
21x: Gura, Mori
19x: Mumei
17x: IRyS
14x: Baelz, Ina, Mysta
13x: Kronii
11x: Amelia, FuwaMoco
9x: Kiara, Vox
5x: Bijou
4x: Pomu, Selen, Shu
3x: Luca, Nerissa, Nina, Ren
2x: Alban, Finana, Hololive English, Ike, Shiori, Wilson
1x: Bandage, Enna, Elira, Flayon, Fulgur, Luxiem, Millie, Petra, Regis, Roca, Rosemi, Sonny, Vesper

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
222p: Fauna
166p: Ina
165p: Mori
159p: IRyS
152p: Mumei
132p: Baelz
114p: Gura
105p: Mysta
101p: FuwaMoco, Kronii
92p: Kiara
88p: Amelia
74p: Vox
72p: Luca
45p: Bijou
37p: Shu
31p: Selen
29p: Nerissa
28p: Pomu
27p: Shiori
24p: Nina
19p: Ike
17p: Sonny
16p: Ren
15p: Enna, Fulgur
14p: Uki
13p: Finana, Millie
11p: Axel
10p: Alban, Elira, Hololive English, Wilson
9p: Vesper
7p: Regis
6p: Bandage, Rosemi, Kotoka
5p: Flayon, Luxiem, Petra, Roca
4p: Bringer, Magni
3p: Bettel, Hakka, Poko
2p: Meloco
1p: Kyo, Maria, Shinri, Pippa

>>57989851
Unicorn's Perspective:
>

>>57989336
retard, at least check their waiting room ccv first

>>57989635
like 2.434%

Here is for today's RASPBERRY REPORT, another fully red one due to the Holostars warriors being embroiled in their "Tempus Week" and not streaming much
Finana, the Marionette chick and Aster tried their hardest but Millie decided to teach them a lesson and prove it was not a fluke with her sub 2 minute stream and
>WELL.................
she once again TELEPORTED BEHIND ALL OF THEM, but this time, with a different spell
>put a stream 6 minutes before cutout point
to secure gold and dab on them haters and on everybody trying for a legit battle!

>IS MILLIE THE TRIPLE H OF THE RASPBERRY TALLY?
>Will the "Tempus week" continue raspberry debuffing the Holostars
>can the KING, the Niji KING and the EMPRESS fight back against this overt cheating?

THESE AND OTHER QUESTIONS TO BE ANSWERED IN TOMORROWS RASPBERRY WRESTLING ENTERTAINMENT!

Raft is decent numberwise but...
Isn't it a shit game?
I love the open sea, I want to be a pirate unironically but isn't most other games that are similar; better?

>>57989915
CLEAN SWEEP BY NIJIGODS

>>57989847
there is no argument. these streams don't count.

>>57989915
NIJI DOMINATION!
HOLOKEKS STATUS!?!?!?

>>57989741
>check our her thumbnail
I'm willing to concede that this has the potential for success
But her model ain't giving her the best starting foot in the marathon, at least

>>57989847
ah gotta stock flare lewds then

>>57989830
>Council oshi
Do ENkekcelsharts really?

>>57989947
kek somehow I miss this shitpost

Is Biboo the Ollie (aka leech) of the gen?

>>57989915
Millie vs Queen Aia is a showdown I wanna see!

>>57989851
The most popular Hololive members among women have traditionally attractive designs like Suisei and Marine, why are we acting like women want something completely different from men?

>>57989409
don't worry I'm sure this will leak outside of here and then you will have 10000 sisters thanking the stars news

>>57989959
QRD on Flare lewds?
>is it true that the tally bloke hates elves?
Can I dab on him by posting Aki as well?

>it’s a Mooms thread….

Hot Take: ReGloss has absolutely nothing to do with "attempting to get more female fans" and it's just something you're tunnel-visioning on because of a throwaway comment in an interview. They're meant for the exact audience that likes idol groups and music, mostly men with a minority of female fans.

>>57989863
>JP primetime
>first debuts since 2021
>no overlap rule
>holoX peaked at 180k and the box has grown significantly since then
100k is underselling it.

>>57989915
it's boring when niji gets serious

>>57989784
Wait hold up what happened to Bettel
I thought it was clown man's turn on the whole anniversary relay thing, did the power of management push + "the only semi-popular member of the group hosting" buff not even amount to 5k?

>>57989974
Her words, not mine.

>>57989896

>>57990016
>They're meant for the exact audience that likes idol groups and music
kek, if that is true how come they're failing to get even a fraction of that audience?

>>57989897
>101p: FuwaMoco, Kronii
Kek
already caught up

>>57990007
all knife-eared are good, flare has the skincolor buff to raise the stakes.

>>57989863
It's a Holo (technically) debut, in JP primetime, with no overlap. For all the branch's problems I don't think 100k expectation is unreasonable.

>>57989784
>Only one stream above 10k and it was MC
…. Gura come back

>>57989441
kek

>>57990016
this. they're effectively JP7 in all but name and they should be held to the same standards as the other JP gens for numbers and conduct.

>>57989578
no, that was my first time mentioning the device girls by their name

>>57989830
I did memory hole that but it was just kiara shitting on her villager jail she didn't even look at the town.

Regloss culling status

>>57989851
God, people say this all the fucking time because Marine has a high % of female fans but it's not true.

Marine is not popular with women because of her lewd design. She is popular with women DESPITE her lewd design. If she was flat she'd have a 40% female audience.

>>57989863
They should just because of how big the JP vtubing sphere is. If, IF, you want to be super generous they should do at least as well as Myth (the last new holobranch debut)

>>57990014
>confusing branding
>questionable interactions on twitter
>lukewarm early reception
The no overlap rule is completely meaningless for Hololive because the only people who would ever overlap them are the homos and MAYBE some ID girl unaware of their debuts.

>>57989092
Mumei is so pretty wtf

>>57990094
>conduct
So like suisei, FBK and matsuri?

>>57990068
OH BOY! I'M GOING TO STOCK IT NOW!
>now I'm even rooting for Mahjong gold!

>>57989409
Order by new, it's full of nips shitting on holostars

>>57989784
>Vox dunking on Biboo
Kek, Based!

>>57990094

>>57989915
H-how did millie recline this much...???

>>57989863
Completely boring non-event streams like Subaru playing Minecraft can get over 100k, if a primetime new branch debut with no overlap can't pull that off they are doomed.

>>57989915
Pomu got 1800 on her 2 Dave the Diver streams.

>>57990016
my rrat is that they actually weren't fit for holo, only singers, so they made a new branch to hire them

>>57990016
Stars has been a failure for its entire existence, the strongest argument against ReGLOSS being an intentional appeal to women is that it didn't happen earlier.

>>57990151
why are criminal lovers like this

>>57990146
SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEX

>>57990133
>the last new holobranch debut
Thats tempus no?

>>57990016
Ao's existence disproves this comment. Sure, a few tomboy lovers like her, but the average, red-blooded titty lover couldn't give less of a fuck about that kind of design.

>>57989863
this is too much even as setup for a grudgepost

>>57989990
They're practically the same person sis!

>>57989915
Holostars are reclining.

>>57990038
>did the power of management push + "the only semi-popular member of the group hosting" buff not even amount to 5k?
Yes, the full branch on the biggest tempus channel only managed a 4k

>>57989863
>100k default is insane
HoloEN got 110k floors after literally the single largest negative year in the branch's history as measured by average CCV, due to circumstances we all know of by now.
The only way HoloJP(sub-branch) debuts DON'T clear that floor is if the marketing has been so fucking atrocious that it fails to reactivate the casual viewers in the same way that Advent reactivated the EN Box. And as bad as the PR end of Cover has been handling this, they haven't fucked up SO badly as to obliterate audience understanding that much.

>>57990094
That isn't what I said at all.

>>57990016
That would be too retarded with this character design

>>57989990
Ollie is the least leech in hololive, shes just a huge unityfag to a fault

>>57990137
>lukewarm early reception
You don't speak Japanese

>>57990160
What do you mean?
She's winning by a lot. Good for her

>>57989240
I seriously don't understand Cover's marketing
Why the fuck didn't they showcase these outfits from the get-go?
Why did they go with all the bland ambiguous teasers instead?

Anyway with low level of hype given their sub count and their voices already spoiled, I'm just hopeful that they get at least 100k for their debuts

Cover does have some goodwill from splash party. They can activate the box again.

>>57990249
>it fails to reactivate the casual viewers
anon week-end JST primetime clears 140-150k, failing 100k it's a tier above not reactivation

>>57989896
>the stylzed L in the ReGloss logo is an L
(⊙ˍ⊙)

>>57989438
I'm completely shocked desu. I don't think BMP is catchier or better than Treasure box. I wonder why it's catching on more.

>>57990038
Overlapped advent MC collab

>>57990206
>holobranch

>>57989240
>Be Hololive
>Have access to the best riggers and designers
>Produce this trash

How? How do you fuck up that badly? Kanade is the only one who looks remotely acceptable. Blue is a man. Red is overdesigned. White is underdesigned. Then you have fucking Raden, like god fucking damn, what a mess.

All of them will be 100k + because it's a trainwreck.

>>57990131
If she wore a baggy suit she would take over the world!

>>57989990
Nobody can ever be the Ollie of anything other than Ollie herself, that retardation cannot be replicated

>>57990152
Huge likes on all critical posts too.

>>57990299
Nigger have you seen their subs? Fucking Advent got 100k in 24 hours, ReGloss without the cull only managed 60k max. Fuck off with "muh JOP" reception when Holox with all the culls still had a faster sub growth.

>>57990016
you don't do this much stars pandering together with their debuts if you want people to think that

>>57990326
Yeah, you will think they should do it the other way around. Showcase all the live2D first, drop the group debut video with a teaser for the music video on zero-kisei stream, then drop the song on Sunday.

>>57990326
they will only pass council

>>57989915
dios mio....

>>57990333
Yeah that would be impossible to fall below 100K, the problem is how many will stay after debut? I'm more curious by how many will tune in to watch Ao-kun daily

>>57990348
because maribako kickstarted the momentum and bishoujo didn't betray the guidelines to ride the same wave.

>>57989841

>>57990328
you missed the memo, they burnt it on HLZNTL

>>57990178
I guess we'll see, if they're all dogshit streamers that will make sense I guess. Would it be like Holo EN adding say Beryl, Roca, Reimu, Milkyqueen, and Amiya Aranha as a vsinger side gen even though most of them are questionable as streamers?

>>57989915
TOTAL HOMO ERADICATION

>>57990038
nobody knows or cares enough to find out. he was up against advent maybe his viewers are tourists. or maybe the two quitters took that much with em.

>>57990299
In 3 days they still haven't reached 30k subs no matter how hard you cope about culling other gens were able to reach higher numbers with even worse culls.

>>57990016
explain their designs and how they are supposed to appeal to the regular Hololive audience

>>57990374
>Have access to the best riggers and designers
well anon, that's the artist's problem, look at fubuki

Is this true?

>>57990016
anon please this rrat of yours gets sadder every day

>>57990233
This is combining with other factors to make me realize something horrendously fucked for the Tempus situation.
>Bettel does his own event, that whole "August 19th" thing, runs it on his own, mostly does it on his own, with "guest appearances" from branchmates dropping in: bro gets like high 6, low 7k CCV, iirc
>Bettel hosts the management pushed, fully funded (relative to what they're budgeted now, so less than before), full-branch collab where all the guys being there is something that's explicitly advertised: 4.6k CCV
The existence of other members of this branch literally debuffs the clown.

>>57990374
have you seen any of their marketing the last year? they are incapable of pushing back against shit art.

>>57990207
Some people do like tomboys and Hololive is already so saturated with all the other archtypes, being a unique fetish might be an advantage. I don't know that a whole lot of straight girls are even into girls who look like guys anyway? And demographically lesbians are just a very small number of people.

>>57990487
One of the two quitters can't even 4view today...

>>57989915
Knowing the Millie is 100% /here/, is she intentionally doing this shit to enter the raspberry tally?

At this stage, I wonder if Cover should just nuke the channels, set up a bunch of new ones, and postpone the debut by a week.

>>57989915
where's tempus? are they reclining

>>57989788
ah yes, forcing the hololive audience to consume something that's not hololive by blocking out every other stream, that's sure to work.

>>57990484
Some of the rumoured RM for them have chuubas that did pretty much ONLY karaoke streams so it's a plausible rrat

>>57990348
Builds off the foundation Treasure Box started.

Less lewd so it is more accessible to a wider audience.

The chorus dance is better for Tiktok. Has more to it than Treasure Box's but at the same time it is 90% hand gestures so pretty much anyone can pull it off whether they can dance or not.

>>57990405
And keep in mind, subscribing takes less effort than attending a livestream on a specific day at a specific time.
>but people won't subscribe until they've seen the debuts
Omega had something like 150k subscribers. OMEGA. A channel with NOTHING. NOT EVEN A TALENT, OR A FEMALE.

>>57990551
He's a Jipper
Japanese Nigger

>>57989240
Surely they will be higher than Advent, right?
JP Holos having a lower debut than the EN side branch in 2023 would be an absolute disaster...

>>57990038
they are doing the ALL BRANCH ALL NIGHTS carousel around the various channel, there's no crescendo or connection, tourists gets filtered pretty fast and without a strong core to supplement the views (that we know doesn't exists) this is the end result

>>57990233
Damn, Tempus week more like Tempus weak

>>57989915
> RASPBERRY GOLDS FOR SEPTEMBER 2023
01) Aia (NijiEN) - 275 - Project Zomboid
02) Aster (NijiEN) - 380 - Random/Variety
03) Flayon (StarsEN) - 511 - Armored Core 6
04) Aster (NijiEN) - 338 - Armored Core 6
05) Millie (NijiEN) - 399 - Guerilla stream
06) Maria (NijiEN) - 389 - Apex collab
07) Millie (NijiEN) - 297 - Dave the Diver

> PER COMPANY
6x: NijiEN
1x: StarsEN

> PER STREAMER
2x: Aster, Millie
1x: Aia, Flayon, Maria

>>57990516
Except for the tomboy they all have pretty standard vtuber designs.

Why are people doomposting these debuts? JP never misses.

>>57990374
Bro you're fucking insane, even if you hate this branch the designs are mostly good.
Ao appeals for a specific type of girl and it's CLEARLY working for them. Ririka is like, just a genuinely fucking good design. Hajime is middle of the road but at least has nothing actively bad going on.
The only ones I'd even rank badly are Bin Raden for obvious dissonance with the rest of the aesthetic, and honestly? Kanade has a great design that's let down by derp face in her model that isn't actually present in her art, so that's on rigging.

Yeah she's literally never coming back is she

>>57990650
they are in their celebration week, it's a debuff for raspberry

>>57990656
anon they are not homos

This dyke really...

>>57990760
This isn't HoloJP retard, for some godforsaken reason

>>57990640
They'd still probably get culled. Can't keep indefinitely deleting channels until you get lucky and don't get culled, you'll lose a lot of people who get fatigued from subbing.

>>57990631
Ame...

>>57990760
psyops

>>57990699
Anything lower than 2x Advent's numbers would be a failure.

>>57990591
It's the Roberu situation all over again.

>>57990677
This. Omega for the longest time had more subs than 2/3rds of the JP homos. But that anon is right that the reception isn't lukewarm, it's actually fucking frigid. I never imagined that a new female gen under Hololive would have so little fanfare but here we fucking are.

>>57990000
Checked.

>>57990818
Everyone is going to treat them like HoloJP regardless of what labels Cover tried to attach to them in an attempt to expand their audience.

>>57989915
Sorry but I'm going to put in a petition to disqualify that Millie stream as per the main tally rules. Don't we usually use midnight as the starting cutoff and 1:00 as the peak cutoff? Millie had a little over 900 by 1:00 so I think we set that as her real number. It's not fair to rob Aster of his rightful gold.

>>57990796
Hello intern

>>57989488
Raden is the best. She stands out so much with the look, the noh mask (which she says will be her first merch), the tweets about museums and art exhibitions, the interest in rakugo, the poorfagging. The only other one that stands out is Ao for obvious reasons but the other 3 are too generic, sweet but unremarkable.

>>57990591
>SOVL vs SOVLLESS
that's the primal filter that truly knows no border or affiliation.

>>57990802
yeah sorry she died in the Bite of '87 incident, are you fucking retarded or some shit do you think she's dead?

I never noticed Cover had this slide in their investor presentations before.

>>57990874
yeah. koyori got 180k for her debut and the JP box has grown since then. 200k floor and 250k ceiling should be the expected numbers for these debuts.

So for people who have decided to be saviorfags, who are you supporting? Ririka has stolen my heart.

>>57990705
it's cool management stole myth's anniversary idea and ran it a week before it.
oh and it failed.

>>57990882
raspberry has the hard 24JST instead of 25JST for peaks iirc

>>57990802
Tell me numberbros, how much milk can Fauna produce in one hour if you squeezed hard enough?

Shiori is basically the embodiment of a sister so her tastes confirm that ReGloss was made to appeal to sisters
https://twitter.com/shiorinovella/status/1699865880795181374

>>57990929
it's always there

>>57990885
>the poorfagging
How's she doing in terms of her yen allowance, btw.
I still think her model, or at least, her face is rough, but I'm willing to believe that personality can power through rough models. I mean, IRyS exists and isn't Sana-tier, so that should be proof enough of that.

>>57990456
but god damn, making them requires A LOT of money

>>57989240
Am I the only that looks at this and think nijisanji? They look kind of generic.

>>57990972
Ah, so Millie was just using underhanded tricks then. I kneel.

>>57990929
>anon just realized that Cover does what literally every corporation of note in the entire developed world does
damn, we got a detective over here

What the fuck is Youtube doing now with the UI?
Has anyone else gotten this ridiculous update?

>>57990944
>who are you supporting

What if we got all their Twitter accounts suspended before debut? It would give them the saviorfag buff that Koyori had plus no one could see all the tweets at the homos anymore.

>>57990016
Anonchama, people got tired of idols having so many scandals and issues, which is part of why some of that audience moved to Hololive.
Saying "these are the REAL idols" isn't really the audience-friendly statement that you think it is.

Simplest problem is that we have no idea about what their STREAMING work will be like.
Hololive and the Holobox are built upon STREAMING. Which is why Laplus' attempt at pre-recorded content didn't go anywhere.
People liked some of it, but the biggest appeal of Hololive was the Live content, being part of something happening RIGHT NOW.

That + their designs do not appeal to the typical Hololive audience + their voice is already revealed both in speaking and in singing (thus, half the need to watch the debut is gone).
People will tune into the first one for one reason alone : To find out once and for all whether this group will be streamers or not.
And once that first domino drops, that this is a group focussing mainly on songs and stuff and less on streams?
That will officially mark it as DOA among the Holobox.

>9 days, 20 hours, 8 minutes, 24 seconds without Fauna

>>57991031
they're just more grounded than typical holo designs. it's a welcome break from all the animal and fantasy shit.

How is /orc/ more active than the whole tempiss thread combined?

>>57990885
Raden is the dark horse because she's superficially the most interesting right now, curious to see if she lives up to the first impression or if she fizzles out instead.

>>57990973
Enough for one and a half glasses of milk if you're going from a prime state where she's been fully topped off internally.

>>57990591
Tempus has zero concept of "unity" anon.
Their biggest talent was a guy who fucked off from group collabs frequently.
Pic rel is always true, and that applies to the entire branch as well.

>>57990986
did Suisei thirsting for Ao not tell you that already?

>>57991041
>all that peeking ホロスタ comments

>>57991041
Turn off ambience mode

>Kiara actually seething about any server that isn't EN
Jesas

>>57989845
Isnt it like really late on jakarta?

>>57991078
>a welcome break from all the animal and fantasy shit.

>>57991078
I want my wacky saturday morning cartoon designs though...

>>57990986
>putting both an outline and a shadow effect on her font for no reason other than her own aesthetic desire
This is the extra-ness that defines this woman, for good or ill

>>57990812
No, but they aren't Hololive either.
The reaction will be the same either way, except maybe the first stream where some confused chatters will join to find out wtf this whole thing is about.

>>57990459

Why are there so many moompostings lately? I thought you all had better taste than just normie shits

>>57991041
That layout has been in A/B testing for months now. Eventually everyone will have it, Youtube is going full braindead algo spam on its users.

>>57991026
Sankisei+Umisea+Marine merch/collab/sponsorships, she's fucking stacked to heaven and isn't shy into reinvesting, she wants the first 3M of the branch, she want the top JP spot for vtuber channels and maybe if Gura keep floundering in a little more than 1 year she could clame the top spot globally.

>>57989240
I don't really vibe with any of these designs except for Ririka. She hits different for me

>>57991102
whoa its like Vesper carried that retarded branch. who would've thought

>>57991162
EN server sucks ass compared to others

Which song is doing better, Rebellion or Shunkan Heartbeat?

>>57991238
Shunkan Heartbeat

>>57991190
Marine is the rightful heir to the throne.

>>57991185
Why not?

Based Nerissa shitting on EN server
Roru

>>57991238
Hololive has never had a single good full gen song.

>>57991183

why is it controversial to say that ReGloss was made to appeal women?

>>57991185
Baby's first noombers thread

>Rissa actually called out en server for being a dead shithole.

>>57991061
>That will officially mark it as DOA among the Holobox.
Does that even matter if they’re explicitly taking on a new approach with this group?
If each member is constantly pumping out music, it may not be a traditional hololive success, but rather a success that is new for hololive. Success founded on just music and music alone. I don’t expect it to be massive, but it’s just a new thing they’re trying. What’s the worst that could happen?

>>57991238
Shunkan Heart but Rebellion is pretty cool too

>>57991238
Shunkan heartbeat

>>57990986
Cute

>>57991291
She basically echoed what Kiara told her

>>57991185
We love the Moom here

>>57991278
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTXGwiWBc9k

>>57990986
Im actually surprised shiori hasnt collabed with the faggots

>>57991102
Yeah shocker
>>57991222
Like he said, that's like global without Ame

>>57991278
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTXGwiWBc9k
t. didn't watch OBP

>>57991238
I listened to them both once and don't have any desire to listen to either one again.

>>57991220
Sweet personality too. https://twitter.com/ichijouririka/status/1699816040690287004

>>57989240
Grimmest 50-60 can't see it being this bad though
optimistic 100k-120k, advent level

Really if none of them clear 100k I expect a full chuuni overcompensation, hard reverse direction for JP7 within a year

>>57991344
who knew being negative all the time leaves an impression

>>57991291
Pretty based if true. Now if only hearing that would “light the fire” for the rest EN to come together and do something with that server

>>57991376
The live band version is so much better than the MV.

Even Ame spent more time with Fauna on MC than Kiara in the past 8 months, so I dunno why she's complaining about the EN sever being dead

>>57991259
View growth? Rebellion

>>57991402
>I expect a full chuuni overcompensation, hard reverse direction for JP7 within a year
That's not really how it works in practice
>WELL, HOLOBOX BROS, THESE GIRLS ARE NOT FOR YOU!
>THEY'LL DO THINGS YOU DISLIKE, JUST KEEP AWAY FROM THEM
(one year later)
>HELP THEM HOLOBOX BROS!
They'll be rolling the dice on debut. If they position as nu-Holo (as it seems to be their current penchant) they'll live and die by the audience they're targeting

>>57991282
Some people are really just anti-"anything /#/ comes up with" when it comes to explaining possible business reasons for activities.
>/#/ posted that investor interview with Yagoo and the CFO where they talk about how they think women mainly watch Holos who are good with music
>/#/ points out that a good chunk of the artists for these girls come from a yuri background
>/#/ points out that, if they aren't actually HoloJP proper, they must have some kind of inherently different purpose, otherwise they would just be JP7
>/#/ (or at least, a good plurality of people in /#/) pretty quickly embraces the concept that this is a new branch that is intended to appeal to women, because the people in charge of the company think "women who make music" is how to get a female audience, and this new project is literally "women who make music" at the apparent core
>people who don't like /#/ instinctively go against it because /#/ thinks it's likely

>>57991185
This is a SNO thread

>>57991411
Or just move on like everyone else and leave that shithole to rot

2.5 hours until Fauna
trust me bro

I'm back from my forced vacation and i just wanted to say that Ao nipples should NOT be considered NSFW as her chest looks like mine and I'm a guy. That is all, thank you.

>>57991520
>3 days 783k
>1 month 1.4m

>>57991600
I will NOT take my meds.

>>57991516
i mean Fauna put all the work in the shared server after being left alone for 1 year on the EN one.

>>57991520
Rebellion is out of steam. Shunkan Heartbeat will get a massive algo boost after the 200k+ debuts and the collabs on the main DEV_IS channel.

>>57991611
post a shirtless Ao pic then

>>57991278
Kiseki Knot...

>>57991516
it's so dumb to want people to cling to it, the new server was made for more interactions between branches and if they all kept playing on the EN servers they would miss out on everything.

Dude what about a numbers vtuber

>>57990882
Yeah I'd agree with you, give it to Aster. Meme tally though so whatever the guy running it wants to do

>>57989240
There’s no way these are their live 2Ds.

>>57991664
already have one

>>57991611
post your nipples