/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

I don't have to, for I never badmouthed her.

>>57918969
I'm sorry

>>57919085
This.
Actually I miss her, her presence made Holo spicier.

>>57919085
>>57919089
>>57919427
She told you kaigai cunts to go kill yourselves and stop talking about her. Respect her wishes and fuck off.

>>57918969
>default pic
>>57919526
so tuesday for Rushia.

>>57919526
But I'm Japanese.

>>57918969
Sorry I haven't called you a menhera whore today. let me rectify my error immediately. Menhera whore.

Is she just not getting her thread made anymore?
They don't even mention Nazuna on the Vshojo threads anymore either lmao

>>57919654
There's not really much to say about Nazuna since the concert.

>>57918969
Why would I apologize when she betray and spit on me after years of support? She can burn in hell.

Fuck her and whatever is left of her fans

>>57918969
I'm sorry but who are you again?

She's a liar who treats the people who support her like garbage the second something bad happens. Trying to blame her kaigai fans for getting kicked from that tournament is just absurd.

>>57918969
I'm sorry that you're so flat.

>>57919654
She complained that all her overseas fans had disappeared and that nobody was saying I love you to her anymore in her last public twitcast. She nuked what was left of her English fanbase.

>>57920002
That concert was such a fucking shitshow
Its baffling to me that at least 1 person saw it and said "yeah this looks ok, ship it". Fortunately it should serve as a free lesson to others on what not to do

>>57921519
Almost everybody seemed to like it.

>>57918969
Bitch

t. Delutaya

>>57921588
How many people do you have living in your head jesus
People usually have only 1

>>57921640
Go and ask fans who actually watched instead of catalog tourists that saw some screenshots.

>>57921734
There were a lot of people that said IRyS’s original design was good too on twitter, reddit, and her vods doesn’t mean it’s true.

>>57921483
I can't believe people reacted badly to her lying and then yelling at them to leave.

>>57918969
For what? She'll never return to Hololive

>>57918969
qrd of what happened in the last days why you demand her to apologise?

>>57919085
That is exactly why you should apologize.
Why do you let her get away with it, faggot?

>>57921949
So you would rather listen to catalog bait threads than actual fans because some redditors also liked something?
Bizarre argument.

>>57922418
At least they are real people and not imaginary ones you invented in your head

>>57922580
Because catalog bait threads are known to be good sources of objective information...

I tell you again, go ask actual fans in their general.
Did you even watch the concert yourself or why do you have your panties in a twist over it?

>>57922824
Why do you only accept opinions that only speaks good about something than accept that people can not like something?

>>57921519
Rate individual songs

>>57923021
Because the opinion of people who have a bias against something no matter what they do is irrelevant.
It's pretty telling that you care so much about antis opinions and ignored my question about whether you actually watched the concert that you complained about.

She's a terrible person and the only reason this board excuses anything she does is because she's Japanese

>>57921519
You mean her 3D debut? Aside from the framerate it was cute. The concert was great.

>>57919526
Thanks for the reminder to unsub

>>57923156
Dumbass

>>57918969
For what?

>>57923938

>>57918969
It's still baffling to me how this one is the one Cover decided to fire and make an example out of, while letting Noel and Mori keep doing their side hustles

>>57924761
Because Cover doesn’t have a rule against side hustles, but they have a rule against breaking NDA. They don’t share your priorities, because they don’t care. How is that so hard to understand?

>>57924761
Its all about the NDA. She could've shown a picture of her roommate naked and it would've been less serious, and likely forgiven after a suspension

>>57921272
>Trying to blame her kaigai fans for getting kicked from that tournament is just absurd.
Wait I wasn't aware of this. I actually can't believe she pulled the same trick kson did when she called out the "fucking weebs".

Man she's such a terrible influence for her, it's almost laughable.

>>57918969
How can I apologize when she did nothing wrong.

>>57926294
the only thing kson is guilty of in this instance is enable this menhera trainwreck by picking her up before she could do any self-reflecting (assuming shes capable of that)
she blames kaigai for everything hoping her japanese paypigs will deflect their anger to them instead of the real problem (herself). she did it before and she'll keep doing as long as it "works"

>>57926294
I don't understand why it's becoming this trend for some of these girls to villainize their EN fans. What, are they sitting around reading baitposts on 4chan all day and believing that those are posted by their actual day-to-day EN supporters?

>>57918969
What did I miss? She coming back?

>>57926758
Rushia unironically did that yes
She mentioned 4chan by name before

>>57926758
they do it because its easy. the oversea audience is generally way smaller and EOPs are unlikely to respond and they take avantage of that. for example in cases of pirated content, japanese blame oversea so they can condemn the act while not upsetting the japanese fans, even though the people who distribute and consume are majoritarily japanese/asians

>>57927145
Yeah, Noel blames all her porn getting pirated on the EOPs even though it's all being leaked by Japs.

>>57926294
kson calling out the "fucking weebs" was her being retarded and going to bat for mikeneko

>is anything the fault of this woman who has been fired from multiple companies and caused drama with multiple other streamers
>No, it's the fans who are wrong

>>57918969
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wf5ydEWJL1g
Give her beautiful voice a like and view :)

>>57921272
>>57926294
She's AFRAID, SCARED SHITLESS, absolutely PETRIFIED of 4ch. She says most of her defamation*** come from 4ch kaigainiki, she constantly threatens legal action and she'd rather not have threads getting made about her in here.

***The Japanese also consider insults as defamation

>>57928876
Shall I recreate /るみな/?

>>57928876
***Mikeneko also considers true things she doesnt like as defamation

>>57929107
She is not mad at kaigai, only people who post defamation. She is a sensitive girl.

>>57921519
Anon, that webm isn't from the concert.

>>57928876
The sad thing is this isn't entirely true. She hates the thread here, but also considers it another sign of kaigai fans abandoning her when there isn't one. She was just whining about kaigai fans disappearing on a twitcast a couple days ago after telling them to fuck off. There's no winning with her.

>>57924761
She broke NDA. It was even said that if cover was a smaller company, they would have like to have kept her, but now that they are big they had to set an example. Don't break NDA or your out

>>57929268
I can't defend kaigai when the thread abuses her so much. She hasn't retreated to the sub though so that's a good sign.

>>57929333
Seeing what she's like without 24/7 tardwrangling, I think it was for the best that they dropped her. I feel bad for what her managers must have had to put up with over the years.

>>57929516
Still no reason to insult her. Please don't insult her.

>>57929268
>after telling them to fuck off.
Timestamp? I'm sure mikeneko only means her stalker.

>>57929629
>Tells an uninvolved portion of her fan base to fuck off. But plz no bully
NTA, but fuck off.

>>57926294
Kson only told /vt/sisters to fuck off and that was based

>>57929766
In the obvious JOKE yandere stream. Did you watch the stream? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d_fXI-7fW0

>>57928876
I didn't know Rushia can read english, or at least fluent enough to be here. Please explain.

>>57929450
I can defend them when she blamed them for getting kicked from a Japanese Apex tournament somehow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En_XFzl4jPQ
Rushia is supposed to be a yandere character.
That's a joke, guys.

>>57930143
Taiwanese and Japanese discord DMs her defamation posts from here. Simple as.

>>57929744
It was a twitcast, so she privated the VOD as usual.

>>57929978
holy fucking cope, you retards deserve the suffering you'll get

>She tells you to fuck off and she fucks other guys as a joke guys hahaha, get it

>>57919526
It's her fault for joining vshojo lmao

>>57930180
>people still falling for mikeneko's trolling

>>57920974
Fucking KEK

>>57929978
She said it in on a twitcast as well immediately after finding out she was being kicked before her one week break.

>>57930286
it's like they want her to be miserable.

>>57918969
I never doubted her in the first place.

If you enjoy Menhera, you have no recourse in expecting other people not to think you're retarded.

>>57930297
I have said twitcast clipped right here
https://vocaroo.com/152f1kraa9xp
クイックスだけだよ 海外勢でさあ未だにいてくれんのほんと クイックスだけなんだけど
ねえみんな 表 配信で言っちゃったもうさ 気軽に気安くさ愛してるとか言わないで欲しいよ ブロックしちゃうから みんなね 気がする
何か 謝罪 の DM 来てたんだけどさ ちょっとブロックしようかな

>>57930391
Talking about the mengen twitcast before her break, retard. Cope harder.

>>57930286
Sound like trolls, anyone with a brain know not to take 4chan seriously. So it's like how dramatuber DMed her about Aloe and caused a feud?

>>57929899
You'd wish her rant was only targeted at this board, or 4chan for that matter.

>>57925029
>>57925111
>>57929333
Not him but mori 100% broke her NDA when she brought her real life friends to collab with her and her genmates in hololive
It's the reason why it never happened after that, management wasn't even aware of it until people started sending in emails

>>57929978
>>57929766
Timestamp? I'm not feeling like crawling through nuliple hours of this

>>57930537
Not even talking about that one. She treated her kaigai viewers like shit in the mengen immediately after the tournament kicked her. This is just her being pissed to see they all actually left besides Quix.

>>57930586
>anyone with a brain
We're talking about Michael Cat here.

>>57930547
That was trolling
She always does this jealousy thing
Don't you think it's suspicious she got kicked out of apex matsuri with no reasons given?

>>57930695
I'm sure the accompanied talk about how Japanese fans were so much kinder than kaigais was a joke as well.

>>57918969
lolcow

>>57930755
Well, they are. She isn't wrong.

>anons itt taking her psycho joke streams seriously
Faggots

>>57930672
I dont think she understand what kind of website this is and took the trolls at face value. Also stating she will sue 4chan? last time also meant she don't understand laws outside Japan. She is japanese afterall.

>>57930586
4chan (with the exception of a few twitter accounts) was the only place where people opposed male collabs and said they'd leave if she did them, and as you can see from this thread we were telling the truth.

>>57930812
She says the same shit depending on which group she's mad at. She treated her jp fans like shit about 6 months ago to the point some of her long time supporters left over favoritism.

>>57930840
>It was all a joke
That's some strong copium

>>57930936
I don't think there will be any more male collabs.

>>57926758
>believing that those are posted by their actual day-to-day EN supporters?
I know it's hard for you to believe, but /vt/ is just a representative collective of the average vtuber fan population when it's not heavily censored

There's on average about 3-4 times the amount of lurkers here based holofes pirate stream participation compared to unique thread ID's.
Lurkers are directly interested in what's being discussed here, and are much more likely to agree with negative sentiment as they, like you, sought out a place where they can have more freedom of discussion without the heavy handed mod community of vtuber reddits, discord groups and youtube comment sections.

>>57931009
Why would you possibly think that, after three separate occasions? Were you dropped on your head as an infant?

>>57930975
She is playing a yandere gf character. She wants affection.

>>57930978
The remaining discord fags are actively trying to convince her to take them back and astroturfing positivity on this board is part of the process.

Dumb whore had been getting her holes stuffed during her entire tenure as Rushia and lying about it. Now she can't even keep it off her streams anymore, she needs twink cock at all times. She doesn't deserve any sympathy.

What did she do? Bait her suicide again?

>>57931065
She will probably be working with males managers at Voice-Ore though.

>>57930936
Japanese never say things to your face, they keep it polite on the outside but keep their honest opinion inside. This is a warning from japanese exchange students, not me.

>>57929899
Too bad she blamed not just this place

>>57931185
True

I miss her

>>57918969
rushia did nothing wrong

>>57930586
>>57930930
>criticizing scummy behavior is trolling
???

>>57931335
this

>>57931347
She can breach MY nda.

>>57930609
>>57931196
not him, any clips?
the only thing i've seen of kson recently is the yakuza shit and all the ecchi shit she's been putting out

>>57931185
If you're in Japan, you'll be able to tell very evidently what they think about you based on how thry interact with you

>>57931347
>send a DM to Rushia with translation of /vt/ posts where 80% of the threads are baits
>for no other purpose than to get her upset and go menhera
>not trolling
???

>>57918969
For what? She's still the same backstabbing menhera as always.

>>57931537
I've been in these threads, criticizing mike is not bait

>>57931185
Her JP fans are actually just cucks and saviorfags. They'd be gone by now if they cared.

>>57931173
Promised to never ever collab with males, announced she was joining an Apex tournament with 2 males, got kicked out of the tournament because her reputation is radioactive in Japan, blamed her kaigai fans for it and told them to fuck off because she was already mad at them for complaining that she lied about not collaborating with males.

>>57919654
I can't believe the days would come when she doesn't get thread anymore, not even on /jp/. I assume what's left of her fanbase here all went into their bunker.
I feel so fucking bad for her, everything has been downhill since the yab, she was genuinely one of the best

>>57931672
this thread is literally a bait.

>>57931699
>likes an oshi
>won't leave
Wow, you are pathetic

>>57931699
That's a little reductive, mikechan obviously needs help and they want to help her
No girl fucks up this much and doesn't have men want to save them

>>57931822
She outright told them to fucking leave, how do you even come back from that?

>>57931826
It's an excuse to talk about the drama sure, she's a major vtuber who is shitting on EN fans after spending the last year sucking up to them

>>57931434
I think they're talking about that time kson went on a rant about weebs/unicorns. it was weird because none of her friends were having trouble with either at the time

>>57931881
She owns an apartment in tokyo, she's fine.

>>57921949
Hold up and fuck you. We can agree that IRyS original design does not fit in Hololive, but you are hating for the sake of hating. Go and try to find someone who has as unique of a illustration style as Redjuice. Just try.

>>57931976
She keeps moving because all her neighbors mysteriously hate her.

>>57931434
I have a screenshot of the TL of that rant but that's it.

>>57931953
>shitting on EN
I understood the complete opposite.

>>57932069
>tokyo
>neighbors giving a shit

>>57918969
She's the one who did bad things and hasn't apologized for them.

>>57921483
Kek.

>>57931974
Iirc that rant came like a day/week after she had dinner with Mori. This was alittle after the whole Kroni/tempus business. My guess is Mori told her that they got a load of shit for it and told her about the evil unicorns. She had to set us right so we could be good little redditors again. Next meme!

I think it's crazy that she's able to just color swap her hair and put on a maid outfit, but her face is exactly the same.

>>57921483
>She complained that all her overseas fans had disappeared and that nobody was saying I love you to her anymore in her last public twitcast.
This is what I understood as well.
This is what she means with defamation btw. We barely understand her Japanese and always interpret malice

>>57931953
Dude, it is the default picture from hololive, this thread is not made by a fan. It is the same faggot who spam apologize threads, likely with a bot.
Rushia is menhera, not going to defend her, but it is also obvious people are trolling her because she is menhera, not to criticize but to get more laugh and drama.

>>57930609
>>57931196
I don't know who she was talking about but the only people mad about the stream are numberapes and twitter subhumans who I saw in btvm replies, so yes she was in fact extremely based.

>>57932135
This sounds completely accurate. She's not even talking about unicorns, she's talking about /vt/ and how it's a massive grassroots psyop to turn people into a parody of a unicorn and shit on girls not because they're actual gachikoi, but just to create drama and fit in with the crowd. I guarantee you that 99% of anons who shit on, say, Kronii were not gachikoi for Kronii or any other chuuba, they were shitposting or trolling or just trying to fit in. This is less true of mike though because she had actual gachikoi, even if the most psychotic "gachikoi" posts in her thread were from larpers.

>>57932135
>weebs are only overseas
>let me speak to them to give them a "wake up call" only in japanese
Yeah, the "overseas weebs" were definitely the target audience... Think this was the point I stopped caring about kson, didn't go anti but just stopped caring. Just incredibly cringe to shit-talk people behind their backs, hoping they won't find out without giving them a chance to explain themselves. Close to the same with Noel too.

>>57932704
Kronii being indecisive and collabing with tempus out of spite was a recipe for making antis, i wouldn't say 99% shitposting and trolling.

>>57932135
what an entitled attitude
People can drop support for any reason they want, you are not entitled to their views or money
I'm sure you love the idea that the streamers happiness is all that matters, it's an entirely selfish viewpoint

>>57933206
>People can drop support for any reason they want, you are not entitled to their views or money
cool that's also what kson said

>>57929268
>There's no winning with her
And that's why you should avoid menhera women. The only winning move is not to play.

>>57932704
It would be hilarious if she was talking about Kronii's situation

What happened now?

>>57932970
>Noel
>Bitches about people downloading her shit when the most popular one was when she fucked up and slipped nip, while charging way too much for non-nude softcore porn
Yeah, fuck that.

>>57933292
Menhera are the best

>>57933376
dramaniggers are trying to start an internet arguement over nothing... again.

>>57933137
Do you think most of those antis are genuinely gachikoi for Kronoi or any other chuuba? I don't. It's a larp and more or less exactly like she said.

>>57933414
she can charge whatever she wants and if she wants to censor slips like that and have full control over her content, that's fine. Just don't pin it all on one group as a scapegoat when it's not just them and they can't defend themselves.

oh no... mike told me to fuck off... guess i'll just watch without commenting? lol

>>57933602
Maybe she leaks it herself as covert marketing.

>>57933324
The schizos who call Kronii a whore here are the same people she was talking about.

>>57933592
It isnt just gachikois or unicorns that hate collabs with faggots. Those cunts are 2views for a reason.
and it isnt just gachikoi and unicorns who think twice about supporting someone when they say "Fuck what you want, I only care about what I want" or when you act to spite your own fans because they didnt like something

>>57929333
>>57930616
can someone explain this autism? or should I just ignore it?

>>57933816
yea right like anyone called choco a whore for collabing with 500 different 2view girls

>>57933897
Explain what about it?

>>57933592
Kronii's antis? I think half were paying fans and half are 4chan. These 2 are the ones with strong enough connection to take time to be antis.

>>57934109
i have shitposted about her and i dont even know what her voice sounds like

>>57932135
i still wonder where she got the idea that weeb was ever a positive label

>>57934186
great, you belong to the 4chan group.

>>57933903
uhh anon...

>>57934189
It was never overly negative. Like being a nerd was never truly a badge of shame.

>>57931173
Menhera attack n°239523854903829540324982340. She NEEDS someone tard wrangling her, that's why she kinda worked while she was in holo

>desperate left behind crazy asian whore

>/vt/ doesnt like it


shes bi polar you cant believe half the shit she says

>>57932135
Ok, I remember this shit from a few months back thought it was something new
>>57932704
Anon, I get you probably live under a rock, but I read your shit outloud to my gf and she immediately laughed and brought up how normalfags went after pokimane with
>pokimane boyfriend
This happens all the time outside of /vt/, outside of vtubers, and even outside of streaming
This happens all the time with mainstream actors like Adam Driver with female fans harassing his wife and telling her to kill herself

Don't you come onto /vt/ and act like this is some /vt/ related issue when it's a common one out in the world.
When it comes to love, someone is always butthurt about it, always.

>>57930537
>クイックスだけだよ 海外勢でさあ未だにいてくれんのほんと クイックスだけなんだけど
>ねえみんな 表 配信で言っちゃったもうさ 気軽に気安くさ愛してるとか言わないで欲しいよ ブロックしちゃうから みんなね 気がする
>何か 謝罪 の DM 来てたんだけどさ ちょっとブロックしようかな
>Only Quicks... the only foreigner who's still around... is Quicks.
I'm sorry, guys, I said it on the feed, but I don't want you to feel free to tell me you love me, because I'll block you, all of you.
I got a DM apologizing for something, but I think I'll just block it. (DeepL)
I don't understand her...

She told her kaigai to go away in a manic induced state and now that she's back to normal displaying signs of regret she doesn't seem to remember why her kaigai are actually gone despite herself being the cause of it. It's actually really depressing because she was not herself when she lashed out at them. She's currently clinging on to any kaigai that is willing to return to her. I feel so fucking bad for her. I wish there was a way to tell her that the only reason kaigai left is because she told them to leave and that it was all a misunderstanding.

>>57934613
>to my gf
Get out of here, heathen.

>>57934445
The problem with unmedicated manic depressives is that in the end only the manic side matters because only the manic side acts.

>>57933897
You aren't allowed to bring people you collab with with your IRL onto hololive because you are cross promoting their channel and by extension your own IRL channel using hololive

>>57934693
I'm a dramatuber, it's my job

>>57934676
>she was not herself
yes she was, that was a rare moment of her being genuine, now she's back to trying to manipulate people so she can make money
you're legit retarded/mentally ill if you cant see this

>>57934779
do you have a source to back that up or did you imagine what it says in hololive contracts

>>57934779
Is there a contract you can point to as proof?

>>57933816
>It isnt just gachikois or unicorns that hate collabs
>it isnt just gachikoi and unicorns who think twice about supporting someone when they say "Fuck what you want, I only care about what I want"
Yes, that's what kson's saying. People on /vt/ took a misunderstanding of what gachikoi and unicorns believed and thought and turned it into a second-order system where they shit on girls for unicorn reasons while not actually believing in them personally, displaced onto already existing features in weeb ideology like CGDCT or larping as a trad and bolstered by dramasistery.
It's what Deleuze and Guattari called 'deterritorialization', the decoding of practices from their original meaning to be repurposed in a different context. A lurking crocodile is a deterritorialized log, a Western unicorn is a deterritorialized gachikoi. It's actually very perceptive of kson to notice this, and one of the best summations of this weird phenomenon I've heard, way better than EN drama channels that actually believe the unicorn larp rather than understanding the context of its relationship with actual Japanese idol gachikoi.

>>57918969
why? what happened

>>57935109
>>57935289
Yes it's a violation of the NDA, the same as when rushia exposed her hololive contacts to the drama channel
Mori specifically gave gigguk and cdawgva kiara's contact information, which was a violation of the NDA.

This is why Mori was forbidden from collabing with them ever since.

>>57918969
No
crazed BPD Menhera who can’t help but waste her donationbux on retarded fashionshit and runs to her fans to post another scary crying strong wind and far away traffic audio (you know exactly what it sounded like) if she needs more attention
Imagine betraying the company and her friends just because you are scared shitless that your cuckhold fans start to get uppity and want you to be responsible for once in a while
For the thousands of times I told some anon here to take meds, she is the one who actually needs them.
I actually feel sorry for her, she needs professional help and supervision, and I hope she can recover and get a normal job

>>57935601
Is that why they were allowed to play the card game with gigguck?
Show me tbe fucking contract or fuck off with your obvious bullshit

>>57935687
She's only happy when she's in the middle of drama. That's just how some people are.

>>57935687
Mental illness

>>57919601
wait, how'd you do it?

>>57934676
she knows what she did, she's just pretending it didn't happen

Sexy menhera need correction.

>>57933897
A-chan on Rushia getting shitcanned
https://youtu.be/GkiCZootPB8?t=35

>>57935814
That was afterwards, why don't you ask why she isn't allowed to collab with them anymore

>>57936262
Where is the fucking contract
As far as I know they haven't collabed because they don't want to

>>57935814
why are you not holding calli to the same standard as rushia?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wf5ydEWJL1g
Giver her a like and subscribe.

>>57936427
She collabs with them still IRL
Are you being intentionally retarded?
She was actually stealth punished for this a couple years ago when we were told she went on vacation

>>57936451
Remind me of the time Mori leaked shit to JP keemstar

>>57936427
>As far as I know
bro shes banned from even interacting with them on twitter

>>57936561
Proof? Does your uncle work at cover?

>>57936642
didn't trash taste literally shit on hololive talents?
isn't that literally worse

cdawg said the hololive girls can be talentless and be carried by the brand and the other two shit on nene for being in playboy jp

>>57936816
>cdawg said the hololive girls can be talentless and be carried by the brand
that is objectively correct though, you get tens of thousands of subs before you make any content at all

>>57936816
When did she leek shit to Japanese Keemstar

>>57936741
>interacts with them all the time on hololive twitter account before collab ban
>all interaction with them stops after
>she still interacts with them regularly on her IRL
I don't even know why you want to argue this, you just don't want to accept that she broke NDA and got punished for it
Instead be glad she wasn't terminated like Rushia

>>57936941
like i said, i'd say trash taste did more harm to the hololive brand than jp keemstar, and they shit on japan all the time

why are you stanning trash taste so hard? seems fishy

>>57936940
It's like saying you can be talentless and get paid millions for playing football for AC Milan
It's a retarded statement because you wouldnt get there if you didnt have talent to begin with

>>57937019
You literally have no proof or contracts to point to.

>>57918969
why?

>>57937220
>You literally have no proof
???
Ask Calli yourself why she can't collab with them, this isn't some sort of secret, she fucked up

>>57937176
I have literally said nothing about them, Mori or her RMT. I want proof for anything said in the first place regarding contracts and violations of said contracts.

>>57937390
>he made it up

>>57937390
i think you have trash taste brain rot if you cant see that rushia being terminated for violating their contract means there are contractual stipulations for your irl connections fucking with your hololive work as proof that mori got banned

>>57937482
>hololive doesnt have any contracts that protect their ip from outside company parties

>>57937619
I literally don't know anything about them other than what's been said here and the sponsored stream with that card game. I'm asking for proof. Just post it.

>>57937619
nta but I don't think it's the association with trashy people that was Rushia's downfall but the alleged leaking of her discord DMs (which would count as a work-product and could contain sensitive information) to him and would constitute breaking and NDA. I don't entirely believe she did that (or at least not her entire DM history) but the public perception was that she did and that kind of perception is toxic for any company.

>>57937192
Lets say, theoretically, hololive hired someone with little talent and even less interest in being a streamer. Lets say she said all the right things to get in because she knew the right people to get in. And lets say she streamed 400 hours and then left to, theoretically, work on gacha games instead. Entirely theoretically. Now, what cdawgva is saying, is that this theoretical hololive member could debut to 70000 viewers and 170k subs and graduate to 100000 viewers and 400k subs even though she is, theoretically, completely unfit for the job she is in, merely because she is in hololive. Theoretically.

>>57937839
>he made it up again

>>57937853
https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Argument-by-Pigheadedness

>>57938191
>no talent
>famous in demand artist
christ no wonder you love trash taste when you're this stupid

>>57938194
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invincible_ignorance_fallacy

>>57935298
It's really obvious to us elderly people who have been a part of Japan-centric fandoms for a many years, and Kson is in that group. Kson basically only uses communities that are generally positive, so finding out the vile shit that /vt/ spews had to have been shocking. It's still weird to me and I have been eased into over the course of years.

>>57938483
it's trash taste brainrot, the people coming into these mike threads like to dunk on rushia fans and unicorns but dont want to accept that they got banned from hololive

>>57938527
>Kson basically only uses communities that are generally positive, so finding out the vile shit that /vt/ spews had to have been shocking
You mean the girl that calls people faggots and retards?

>>57918969
why? what changed? what happened now?

>>57936940
Nta, you have to have an impressive resume to be accepted, also competing against likely thousand others. You already prove yourself just by getting in.

>>57936940
you can't get into hololive if you didn't have proven talents

>>57938483
No talent as a streamer. Being an artist is cool but it doesnt matter for stream if you never do art streams.

>>57938509
>i don't actually know their contract, but my guesswork is the truth! i tell ya!
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trust%20me%20bro

>>57938834
Believe it or not those were both common acceptable slang words back when Kson lived in America.

>>57935687(me)
Of course this is entirely hypothetical and me just repeating dangerously superficial hearsay which should not be taken as objective fact or even my independent opinion

>>57938191
>hire person with talent
>she doesnt use that talent
>her career at hololive doesnt work out because of it
You couldnt have picked a worse argument, it's literally proof Connor's statement was retarded

>>57939046
are you stating cover lied about why rushia was fired?
why are you trash taste people so disingenuous, they got banned from hololive

>>57939103
Believe it or not, being jealous over a celebrity having a significant other is a mainstream issue that doesn't just affect your niche anime girl hobby

>>57935298
Huh…
That…actually sounds kinda smart?
Also deterretorialization sounds like Athen academic equivalent for cultural appropriation

>>57930812
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO , you fools are so easy to manipulate >>57930975 can see through the bullshit

>>57939216
Connors statement is that she walked out of a job with 'i was in hololive, yeah that hololive' on her resume and a fat bag of akasupa cash in her hand, and she was completely correct to do so because his point is that overselling on your application only benefits the individual.

>>57939583
Can't manipulate the willing.

>>57939293
kek my turn:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man#:~:text=A%20straw%20man%20fallacy%20(sometimes,%22attacking%20a%20straw%20man%22.
I think you got the wrong idea or wrong anon, i don't like trash taste, i am a holochad.

Can somebody give me a qrd on what's happened over the past month or so?

>>57939583
I still think 4chan is worse for her mental health

>>57932704

>kronii
you don't have to go back that far to have an example, something more recent was how this girl Shiori said she would collaborate with whoever she wants which was interpreted as male collaborations and the catalog will be filled with shitty threads because of it.
even until now

>>57939887
Mikeneko debuted a new model that looks like Rushia, announced employment at a seyuu group called Voice Ore and released a new original song MV.

>>57928876
>***The Japanese also consider insults as defamation
that's why delinquent culture is a thing, to undermine this bullshit

>>57939788
but that's not a strawman argument?
are you intentionally trying to make yourself look dumber as a troll?

denying that hololive treat's nda's seriously is saying hololive lied about her termination
>i don't like trash taste, i am a holochad
hololive fans dont speak like this, no one who isn't a twitchtard calls themselves a Xchad anything

I swear Mori gets brought up in every single thread no matter what it’s about.

>>57938211
You literally have nothing but assert it's true and try to deflect on some random faggots that I couldn't care 2 shits about. Lmao, how hard is to get actual proof

>>57940139
this you? >>57937390
this me >>57937482
i was defending >>57937390
>denying that hololive treat's nda's seriously is saying hololive lied about her termination
???
>hololive fans dont speak like this
how new are you?
Misunderstandings.

>>57940423
alright, you are trolling
fuck trash taste

>>57931974
>>57931974
>none of her friends were having trouble with either at the time
>mike and the weekly drama of his fans
>kanata and his mad fans for ''male collaboration´´ in Minecraft.

>>57940519
>alright, you are trolling
not really, maybe i replied to the wrong person, whatever, too lazy to check.
>fuck trash taste
HELL YEA

>>57940249
People brought it up because hololive didn't terminate her when she broke NDA, they just banned her collabs with them
Rushia most likely rubbed someone wrong at the company

>>57940249
Both Mori and Rushia will till the end of /vt/ and to a small degree Gura because they represent

Mori: the anti "idol culture" trash taste collabs

Rushia: the "false idol" girl who sold the idol and gfe experience the best despite slipping up and revealing that irl she was not faithful

Gura: the "true idol" because she as of yet hasn't had a male collab and is seen as someone who is anti male (despite also having a similar incident to Rushia that is just swept under the rug)

Every thread on this board ever given even time will lead to one of those 3 being brought up, it's some strange parody of Godwin's law.

>>57940619
>kanata and her mad fans for ''male collaboration´´ in Minecraft.
Her unicorns have to calm HER down, where the mad fans? /vt/?

>>57940862
This is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever read.

>shittalking kaigaichads
Normal correction method won't work on this bitch. She needs the Fat Man and Little Boy method

>>57941064
Anon people have been bringing up that Flare didn't treat Rushia being terminated the same as Pekora and Marine since day 1

>>57932970
she spoke in English too but obviously niggers here stuck to what was published here (text translated to English) faggots here don't watch streams and that includes you even though you ''cared so much''.

>>57940959
>despite also having a similar incident
oh? what did I miss?

>>57941546
Pekora cried but she and Rushia are just work friends, never contacted again after termination.

>>57941011
>/vt/?
yep and 5ch but as always they are leaked to twitter

>>57942079

>>57941294
based

>>57941294
based

She doesn't need apologies, she needs heavy meds and therapy. She is absolutely mentally ill, she needs intense medical help.

>>57941294
based.

>>57941294
Based

>>57918969
qrd?

>>57943283
michael cat did a swish and spit with week old semen live on stream

>>57940619
at that time mike was having trouble with her anti-unicorn fans. kanata was freaking out so much even her unicorns told her to calm down.

try again eleven

>>57939418
I only care about vtubers

>>57943973
Kson literally said she was using a metaphor so the person she was talking about would remain anonymous

>>57944540
and my point that none of her friends were having any trouble with what she was talking about is still true

>>57918969
mafumafu

>>57942284
>>57941011
There were exactly 0 fans here who were upset, but hundreds of bait threads and homobeggars and kguards who were running optics on our peaceful general 24/7.

>>57929107
in japan, truth is considered defamation if its used to damage someones reputation. thats how they keep their archaic social systems running, if you criticise anybody(with some level of power) youre liable for a defamation lawsuit.
im not just talking about dumb shit either, it covers sexual predators too

>all she had to do was eat out marine and she would have been saved


many such cases

>>57942404
That's totally different from a private DM saying a guy is gonna arrive at her home in a bit, with a cute and personal nickname

It's different by a huge amount

>>57944864
So she did a good job

>>57945210
Both are examples of a male's name showing up on the screen of two female VTuber that should not have relations with men, they are not "different by a huge amount".

If you want to make a debate about streaming style between the two and why one was more damming than the other i'll agree with you but the situations are the same.

>>57919526
source or it didn't happen

>>57933324
It was about Kanata

>>57939583
Am pretty sure that was close to her Nazuna debut

>>57931009
lol

>>57944898
>>57943973
you're just covering your ass, unicorfag.

Her Instagram follow was added. Kirsch tweet was uploaded the moment her follow was added. She and his wake-up time have been the same lately.

>>57932135
Didn't read everything, but I do think the girls who farm those gachikois and unicorns while having boyfriend that they are hiding deserve to be punished and shit on. If you are someone that aren't doing GFE content and open about your relationship with someone's that's fine I won't watch, I won't hate, good for you if there is target audience for that type of content.

>>57948932
But there are people who shit on girls for just collabing with a guy, even if said vtuber does not do GFE.

>>57918969
>apologize
>vwhorejo
I'd sooner apologize to Mori

>>57950014
And there are people who defend behaviour mentioned by me. Point is, both extremes are retarded. Why even bother looking at their opinion, most of them don't even care, they are just there for shitstirring

>>57946126
NTA but this has to be bait. How the fuck is "literally who guy" name popping up on stream (no discussion) and fucking famous utaite Mafumafu (who probably has female unicorns) saying "gonna go home now mi-chan" the same
I can assure you that Rushia would have not graduated if the name "Takeshi" randomly popped up on stream.

>>57950494
Only one type causes spergs to attack vtubers, which is the point of kson's stream

>>57923156
>people who have bias against something = bad
>people who have bias for something = good
NTA and I don't even agree with his obvious anti take, but you are retarded

>>57948572
she said she barely even knew him and was actually pretty uncomfortable with the collab and was contemplating unfollowing him.
Find something else to rrat about dramawhore.

>>57918969

I could forgive more of her crazy retard shit if she was at least hot and fucked well, but shes just a crazy rich hag with no regerts. 4chan will give her a deadly stroke one of these days.

>>57951363
she said that? it must be true then. theres no way she would lie to cover her ass after all, nobody does that on the internet.

>>57952067
especially not Rushia

>>57952202
Ru-tyan would never lie to me! She is the most honest girl there is, she is deadly afraid of interacting with males, because they are scary, not her audience tho, they are her boyfriends!

>>57951363
How many times have you been fooled by her and still believe what she says?

>>57952067
he's literally 15 years younger than her

>>57950695
More like
>people who actually watched it = good, they can form their own opinions
>people who didn't watch it, just read about it on a bait thread = bad, just re-iterate bait, they don't care about the actual content

>>57952397
the subject isnt important, the problem is that this guy implies that if this mentally unstable wreck says something, its automatically true and everybody else should just shut up, which is fucking retarded.

>>57952683
While that may be true, even as an outsider I was able to notice her dodging almost any relation to the two people she interacted with. They made a bunch of sex jokes and laughed at her right in her face and I can confirm that she did say she felt uncomfortable about the entire ordeal during her last twitcast.

>>57941891
Kson's English has deteriorated so much that it's better to just listen to her Japanese explanation

>>57952987
so she switched from jsl to esl? that's pretty funny

>>57953662
She knows no native tongue, like skull face.

>>57918969
Why?

You should be the one apologizing because this could've ended with a mafumafu song, instead you didn't even get to do a swan song.

>>57921483
When did she tell her overseas fans to fuck off? can't find a clip

>>57954510
Mengen twitcast that she didn't leave an archive for prior to her hiatus.

>>57918969
No. She was a manipulative cunt that only got popular because of her ear-shattering, obnoxious screams.

>>57918969
No. Micheal Cat's failure is deserved.

>>57954214
does this mean I'm going to have to take a long jeep ride with her?

>>57918969
>APOLOGIZE NOW!!!!!!!!
no

>>57920974
well said

>>57932135
wackadoo. was she having a psychotic episode?

>>57918969
https://twitter.com/95rn16/status/1699672842399588545

She wants to live more righteous she says.... well Mikechan, how can you be righteous when you've been found a hypocrite and a liar to me and other fandeads you've not sincerely apologized to for breaking your promise.

Hiding away on twitcast for a more personal and emotional front is not acceptable when you did it in front of all the public to see and live humiliated me and other fandeads. So you start to right the wrong you did by first owning up to what you did not ignore it and say if you don't like it too bad bullshit talk.

>>57954510
Here bro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7VehnJmF14

>>57959581
This time she will change and improve herself, surely...

>>57959581
>https://twitter.com/95rn16/status/1699672842399588545
>She wants to live more righteous she says.... well Mikechan, how can you be righteous when you've been found a hypocrite and a liar to me and other fandeads you've not sincerely apologized to for breaking your promise.
>Hiding away on twitcast for a more personal and emotional front is not acceptable when you did it in front of all the public to see and live humiliated me and other fandeads. So you start to right the wrong you did by first owning up to what you did not ignore it and say if you don't like it too bad bullshit talk.

>>57919526
threadreader chama, do your japanese reps and watch streams. she was referring to both jp and kaigai antis to fuck off.

>>57960159
She's had time to say this but hasn't set aside time on the live stream to that. I have no hope she will do it in today's stream either which will be in less than an hour from now but she wants to live right.
How does one move on like nothing after emotionally stabbing them after months of making a promise and violating it over and over again? People who were with her when she was going wild after being fired by hololive and defending her and supporting her?
Shit is wild to me.

>ITT: retards taking anything at face value because a schizo kept spreading rrats that she hates her foreign fans and they kept believing it.
>when before her stream she made an English only short saying i love you

>>57932135

So kson you're talking straight to us overseas not the JP crowd and you just wants people to just love their favorite vtuber like some zombie even if they get mistreated and shit? You're an idiot kson if that's what you're asking. What you're saying is so unbalanced it's not funny and no a weeb does not mean that at all. That shit is a new slang from years ago and has always had a negative connotation then the word otaku itself here in the west then the negativity it has over in Japan.

I don't know where she's getting this shit from but if it's between her and Mikechan then kson may not even know she made a promise that she kept breaking over and over again for months. Or somebody's been feeding her vt specifically from the vshojo thread or something. If it's not that then I have no fucking clue why she's saying this shit as I know no other besides Vox's fanbase who are as insane as fandead/nekofami's.