/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Choco 10k and 1M subs

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

Boy this game the dogs are playing is one of the worst things I've seen. This is actual viewership poison, thank god they have a karaoke this week.

>>57874381
Her reveal was actually pretty quality, people probably piled in from word of mouth

Choco 1,000,000 DORYYAAAAAAAAA

>>57874517
Yep, big name classics only. Anything even remotely obscure is a no no for numbers

Where the fuck is GURA?

They doubted
Ikz 300k yen

>>57874409
holy shit thought was luxiem

Flopvent is real

Fuwamoco should have been JP, change my mind

>>57874517
Right, retro works well either if the title itself is recognized as a "classic" or if it's at least gone on to have multiple more recognizable sequels and you can play the earlier, lesser known entries

>>57874454
NTA
Bijou is just a selfish obnoxious numberfag

>>57874593
Recent clip numbers
>>57822512
>>57822550
>>57822585
>>57822719
>>57822758

Kek. So in the end FWMC coins are worth nothing and Biboo coins skyrocketed.

>>57873237
>sub 3k before the raid
Be honest will she even reach 6k like she did now with a regular funnel?

>Fuwamoco plays their debuff of the week either Sakura wars or some boomer kusoge
>''its over bros''
>their next streams are all buffs ''The dream is alive Fuwamoco saving HOLOEN!!''
>Repeat
The twins first timeloop format so proud

OKAYYY CHOCO

>>57874484
tourists clearly went to the next happening: choco 1m

>>57874698
They would be flopping just as hard in Japan.
After you get over the gimmick they have nothing to offer

GRIM

>>57874593
samus' big smelly butt...

>>57874660
What you dont like shovelware you've never heard of with scanlines?

* YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY *
>48,521: Pekora (Hololive)
>40,851: Marine (Hololive)
>39,818: Miko (Hololive)
>31,293: Nene (Hololive)
>29,869: Subaru (Hololive)
>27,590: Chiroru (Indie)
>26,654: Mio (Hololive)
>21,408: Nerumero (Indie)
>16,190: Patra (Indie)
>15,900: Koyori (Hololive)
>14,930: Shigure Ui (Indie)
>14,163: AZKi (Hololive)
>13,348: Rena (Nijisanji)
>12,734: Hololive (Hololive)
>12,318: Koyori (Hololive)
>11,881: GatchmanV (Indie)
>11,627: Mel (Hololive)
>11,369: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>11,307: Bijou (Hololive)
>11,274: Hinano (VSPO)
>10,853: Choco (Hololive)
>10,504: Bijou (Hololive)

>Shiori = UP
Obviously it will, she hasn't streamed for all of August. Going from 0 to 1 is a 100% increase.

>last 2 gen are all flops
how do we save hololive

>>57874712
This is the numberfag thread. We love numberfags here, that's why PekoMiko are the queen of numbers.

>>57874760
kek

>>57874726
Peeblephiles quickly make themselves the worst holo fanbase

>>57874744
Probably not, but that's what raids are for

You can't argue with a straight face and say NijiEN's numbers don't decline when they get overlapped by Tempus.
Tempus stole their fans.

>>57874673
>SC cope
Forgets Reg7oss kouhais are the shiny new things. EN barely had any free time to develop kek. Prepare to get mogged.

>>57874798
>SEPTEMBER 2023 GOLDS
1) Aqua (Hololive) - 45,789 - Apex
2) Iroha (Hololive) - 64,229 - Outfit Reveal
3) Miko (Hololive) - 82,404 - Minecraft
4) Marine (Hololive) - 51,829 - Parasocial
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 48,521 - Armored Core 6

>PER COMPANY
5x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
1x: Aqua, Iroha, Marine, Miko, Pekora

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
170x: Hololive
61x: Nijisanji
8x: Indie
5x: VSPO
4x: Neo Porte

>PER STREAMER
58x: Pekora
21x: Miko
17x: Marine
9x: Nijisanji
8x: Subaru, Toya
7x: Hololive
6x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Suisei
5x: Yashiro
4x: Fuwa, Hal, Iroha, Mio, Shiina, Towa
3x: Chiroru, Leos, Okayu, Koyori
2x: Aki, Flare, Fubuki, Hinano, Ibrahim, Korone, Lamy, Lui, Maimoto, Nerumero, Salome, Shion, Tsukasa, Watame
1x: Air, Ayame, Beni, Chloe, Choco, Fuwamoco, Gaku, Gura, Gundou, Hibari, Himawari, Ina, Kaede, Kanata, Kanato, Kiara, Laplus, Lize, Mel, Mito, Mori, Mysta, Noel, Nose, Nozomi, Nui, Polka, Ponto, Qpi, Rikiichi, Roco, Ryushen, Ui

>Sees a seed on stream, want to make a joke about it
>Holds back a bit and then ends up doing a 'Give me your...' while slowly going close to the screen and let complete the last thing
S-Shiori...

>>57874793
I'm genuinely in awe that they might get 5k with this.

>>57874816
cope
she's destroying everybody in her gen except biboo

Where's the hype for Choco? This is the /#/ thread after all.

reminder, this is how it should have been (complete removal of the homo branch optional)

>>57874712
why shouldn't streaming more than others be rewarded, its not like she always does guerilla streams to catch the viewers, she always starts at the same time and just streams longer than the others

>57874850
I swear this is almost the exact language "faunaschizo" was using

Time to move into JST primetime

>Choco 1mil before CouncilRys

>>57874897
WELL DID YOU?

>Makes you seethe

>>57874850
NijiKek pretty quiet huh.

>>57874875
so tempus killed nijiEn rrat is confirmed?

>>57874712
This is how I know you're a seething novelite. Why don't you akasupa Shiorin to ask her to play buff games and to collab with other holomem. She'd incline even for just a little.

>>57874875
How many times you're going to use a 6-man, full branch collab as proof tempiss stole views from anyone? These numbers are absurdly grim for what they're doing.

>>57874897
Thank god it wasn't black or she wouldn't have been able to go back.

>>57874833
EN and JP are oversaturated market, ID market is the future

>tempiss mogs the shit out of nijiEn
No wonder sisters are so mad.

>>57874919
this but remove "holo" from holostars

>>57874836
This. I feel like people think being a Numberfag is bad. It’s a compliment. More popularity only helps the streamer and Hololive.

>>57874875
I don't have it in me to have a strong reaction to this anymore. What do we even do now for competition? Are we just doomed to tribalfag different Holo EN gens from now on? Or HoloEN vs HoloJP?

>>57874726
Now it's time to buy the dip. Once JP collabs open
FWMC will break new high

>>57874919
can't do, need to leech to the hololive name

the tourists to choco seem plausible. still odd that not a few hundred would go into ANY advent stream though - that would imply ZERO mindshare between ame and advent

>>57874911
We only talk about subs when 2 holos are close to each other.
She had no rival in this race.

*YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN TALLY*

>9/5 DAILY TALLY
11,307: Bijou (Hololive)
10,504: Bijou (Hololive)
9,043: Muemi (Hololive)
8,078: Ina (Hololive)
6,047: Shiori (Hololive)
5,451: Regis (Holostars)
5,339: Rosemi (Nijisanji)


>EN GOLDS FOR SEPTEMBER 2023
1) Mumei (Hololive) - 21,874 - Unarchived Karaoke
2) Luca (Nijisanji) - 28,501 - NijiMelody Relay
3) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 12,142 - It Takes Two
4) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 11,690 - FuwaMoco Morning
5) Bijou (Hololive) - 11,307 - Elden Ring

>PER COMPANY
4x: Hololive
1x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
2x: FuwaMoco
1x: Bijou, Luca, Mumei

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
11p: FuwaMoco
9p: Bijou
6p: Mumei
5p: Luca
4p: Mori
3p: IRyS, Pomu, Sonny
1p: Meloco

>>57874897
its cute when she holds back on dirty jokes just to say some insane shit seconds later

>>57874977
If games are your concern then why don't you just go play them?

>>57874793
>Shovelware
Fuck you. Adventures of Cookie & Cream is an absolute PS2 Hidden Gem. One of the best co-op games on the system.

>>57874911
Choco who?
>>57874925
Same

>>57874922
Thanks for hogging advent box and not raiding anyone

>>57874919
I honestly do think they will change to something like this at some point down the road, it would make things a helluva lot clearer.
Though maybe the name is too recognizable now.

Ame's numbers are incredibly bad, but not as bad as people thought it was for someone who self sabotaged herself and didn't promote herself at all.

>>57874875
GRIM. Nijis can't even reach 5k now.

>>57874980
Massive collabs VS massive collabs and both are doing bad

Rather, the question here should be: will fwmc know to save themselves from their own bad decisions?
5 weeks in in and it's not looking like they know any better despite being long-time holofans.

>>57874919
That's way, way, way, too organized.

Shiori raid retention status?

>>57875072
she cant raid anyone if they are not streaming

In the end all of Advent was a miss for me.
>Nerissa
Fucking niji tier and I say this unironically
>Shiori
I like GFE but she isn’t for me
>Bijou
Too zoomer
>FuwaMoco
I like them but I keep skipping their streams because they play too much debuff shit

I just want Gura, Fauna, IRyS and Mumei to stream…… Koyo and Luna are my only saving graces

>>57875046
>ZERO mindshare between ame and advent
Mythfags DO NOT WATCH anything else
This has been explained a billion times I don't get why people don't understand

>>57875064
And yet it's a pretty fucking garbage game for streaming nonetheless.

And with Choco reaching a million it make JP2 another gen with all their members reaching the 1 million sub club

>i haven't opened blender to work on anything because i'm worried i'll just make bdsm porn and bruise my dick again from jerking eight times in a row
not joking about bruising myself
i'm never going to end up making a hololive game at this rate

The reality is FWMC would have 2-3x the concurrent viewers if they were JP7

Search your heart, you know it to be true

>>57874875
Selen and Vox collab lost to Axel lmao
The fuck is this timeline?

Very low number days for HoloEN
But seeing the thread current poster,
>Cuxiem 2.5K and 2K stream
>Beaten by Selen PEXPEX 3 Man Collab
Is this why nijicucks deflecting to Advent?

>>57875050
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
183x: Hololive
61x: Nijisanji
3x: Holostars
1x: Idol

>PER STREAMER
23x: Fauna
21x: Gura, Mori
19x: Mumei
17x: IRyS
14x: Baelz, Ina, Mysta
13x: Kronii
10x: Amelia, FuwaMoco
9x: Kiara, Vox
5x: Bijou
4x: Pomu, Selen, Shu
3x: Luca, Nerissa, Nina, Ren
2x: Alban, Finana, Hololive English, Ike, Shiori, Wilson
1x: Bandage, Enna, Elira, Flayon, Fulgur, Luxiem, Millie, Petra, Regis, Roca, Rosemi, Sonny, Vesper

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
222p: Fauna
166p: Ina
165p: Mori
159p: IRyS
152p: Mumei
129p: Baelz
114p: Gura
105p: Mysta
101p: Kronii
93p: FuwaMoco
92p: Kiara
83p: Amelia
74p: Vox
72p: Luca
44p: Bijou
37p: Shu
31p: Selen
28p: Nerissa, Pomu
27p: Shiori
24p: Nina
19p: Ike
17p: Sonny
16p: Ren
15p: Enna, Fulgur
14p: Uki
13p: Finana, Millie
11p: Axel
10p: Alban, Elira, Hololive English, Wilson
9p: Vesper
7p: Regis
6p: Bandage, Rosemi, Kotoka
5p: Flayon, Luxiem, Petra, Roca
4p: Bringer, Magni
3p: Bettel, Hakka, Poko
2p: Meloco
1p: Kyo, Maria, Shinri, Pippa

Bijou and FWMC reveal the two most important aspects in consistent natural viewership
1- Good timeslot where you start before any other with little overlap
2- Content choice
Everything else is cope unless you are Gura

>>57875183
>Luna
When was the last time she did an electone stream? I miss her weekend ones.

>>57875165
She's inclining

I don't get it, Korone gets 20k streaming the same CRT shit. What is FWMC doing wrong?

>>57875046
mythfags don't care about hololive. They just like Myth

>>57875046
>story of season
>cookie cream
>rusty lake hotel
yeah nice choices, the worst thing is probably more than few hundreds clicked on those streams but fucked off before getting verified

supas
these SEAmen...

>>57874875
Can Niji EN still be fixed at this point? They no longer have debut buffs.

>>57875163
Coz the selfish bitch started first yet outlasts everyone, retard

The Homo song actually wasn't bad although even autotune couldn't hide how awful Shinri is. He is absolutely in the Ame/Fauna/Sana tier of singers. Just dreadful.

That is besides the point though. My main question is why do the sisters that follow Tempus not inflate song views the same way Niji sisters do? This has always been the biggest difference I've noticed between the two types of sisters.

>>57875020
Neither, we're doomed to doompost the entirety of the western vtuber audience as both HoloEN and NijiEN continue to eternally bleed viewers.

>>57875272
Speaking english

>>57875326
Graduation buff

>>57875256
bullshit FWMC gets shitty ccv even without any overlaps unless they are doing super buff stuff like karaoke

>>57875046
some probably went to mori

>>57875361
fuck off faggot

>>57875264
She did a few behind members with hand cam a week or 2 ago.

>>57875046
Ame and Advent have barely interacted. Reminder that Watson Weekly died before Advent debuted so she never got to shill them properly

>>57875272
Ironically EN audience with their weird disgust for kayfabe, JP-nigs is right about them debuting in JP, but we know why Cover didn't because they're anal on this Female Audience super chase. Call them greedy assfucker.

>>57875312
>flip

When are we getting a holo with a bigger ass than mumei?

>>57874875
>even tempus is mogging nijinogs on a daily basis now

>>57875272
Korone isn't boring

>>57875232
Ame's not promoted outfit reveal beat their asses

>>57875140
They seem set on wanting their cake and to eat it too. I guess they expect to get carried by the twin gimmick but even that is kind of a double edged sword because they don't really pay attention to chat during gameplay.

>>57875185
>28k outfit
>8k superchat
Those 20k are tourists

>>57875354
once again, why shouldn't she be rewarded for streaming more than others

nobody wants to watch 20 different elden ring or armored core parts

Shiori constantly sucking up to chat is really gonna filter people. Even paying people.

otsuray~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Xmjbv7Ei-o

What should Choco use her 1M wish on?
>inb4 a nice husband
no

>>57875326
Do a graduation relay kek

>>57875548
A mid husband

I just want to know why the game looks so awful on FWMC's stream? Somebody needs to get in touch with them about their settings.

>>57875097
Yes, they're all shitters.

>>57875307
it would show. thats why its so fucking strange, that not a fucking drop.
at the same time that ame's viewers fell off a cliff, prob after full reveal, fwmc for example had a bump of 50 viewers, really now.

Minecraft buff for Advent tomorrow.

I'm kind of surprised Bae didn't catch up to Fauna a bit more during this Fauna break. Though I guess Bae herself only streamed a few times.

>>57875498
it also makes collabs really awkward

>>57875479
Jezas, NijiCN are unironically going to be merged at this rate

>>57875548
Sex with fauna

Maybe # shouldn't have made fun of grim gang, now we're back

>>57875548
maybe some big cross-promotion with a restaurant chain on the lines of chloe seaworld, or play safe and get a 3D outfit+live+merch next year.

>>57875638
They need myth or council to make it a buff stream imo.

>>57875272
They should abandon NA hours and go full time JP.

>>57875646
Bae is literally incapable of catching up with Fauna.

So Ame's numbers isn't that bad for outfit reveal for something she refuses to promote with no advertisement beforehand right? Ina barely was 1k higher CCV and hers was shill to kingdom come by all of JP.

>>57875506
>superchat
Hi novelite

>>57875646
She's a persona streamer now.

What's the point of joining NijiEN when they can't even beat a 6-man homo team?

I don't visit # often, saw NijiEN #, still can't believe that those are collab numbers
Is that because Mysta graduated?

>>57875673
We never left bro
>>57875232
>>57875479

People are waiting for the Twins to collab with their JP senpais not this games BS.
And with Dev_IS their window to get good buff with JP senpais is closing.

>>57875097
massive collab (once in a year anniversary) vs massive collab (regular game from a branch that spams massive collabs to the point of wearing off the buff)
lets be fair here tempus is mogging nijien here in the way nijiJP mogs holoJP through koshien, they really dont, and its one of their only few chances every year they can edge ahead

>>57875656
Their branch won't leave 2024 without getting merged.

>>57875232
>Ina 7.4k rise
meh, she only got 9k 2 years ago with it in a split pov Gura collab

>>57875700
any JPs involved is a buff

>>57874875
>Elira sub 2k
>3 collab sub 3k
>Lost to axel
It over for them ....
So this is why sisters raiding again huh

>>57875521
if the bitch has no intention to raid anyone, then switch slot with shiori, after that she can stream all the way until jp primetime i don't care.

>>57875361
No dedication. Nijisisters will viewfarm for numbers. Tempussisters just whine on xitter and fight with unicorns.

>>57875720
She did close the gap by 2,000 actually
I imagine if Fauna took a month off it would actually be possible.

>>57875432
Back so soon from your vacation?

>>57875638
Sorry Minecraft buff only applies to JP right now

Another hard start for regloss just like council. My inner saviorfag is activating.

>>57875427
its hard to believe all of myth fans are myth only. fucking ame of all people seem ripe for most mindshare, of goslings at least.
>>57875432
its grim for advent, maybe EN has done enough permanent damage to the perception that the audience expects more of what council or twitch brings them.

>>57875762
You know it's over when your group can't even beat Tempus even with collab buff

>>57875878
Uhh what?

>>57875837
They don't select a time slot from a list, Shiori is free to stream early

Is it happening?

>>57875700
well biboo got mumei to stalk them so maybe that's gonna be a buff idk

>>57875786
Not to mention how this garbage event is being massively pushed on social media but they can't beat clown alone doing a shitty superchat meme.

>>57875403
Did you not read my second point?

>>57875763
nijiEN is in recline since september-october of last year, the streaming laws in china only exacerbated the issue, numbers were kinda obfuscated past two months due to graduations (but not really) Vox forgoing the sisters is just the cherry on top.

>>57875941
Almost certainly not, I thought her previous persona had already been mostly confirmed anyway.

>>57875548
Special R18 ASMR voicepack, officially released by Cover

>>57875941
absolutely not, for the sake of both parties

>>57875548
A big cross-promotion with a dating service that will operate exclusively to find her a husband

>>57875596
I'm pretty even they themselves don't know how to change that. It's probably a setting on their capture card but when someone brought up their CRT filter on zelda they just said "that's just what it looks like"

>>57875939
That's selenfag ban evading, he'll be avatarfagging with Gura by the end of next thread

>>57875762
tempus killed manjisanji lol

>>57875941
nah that's breaching NDA

>>57875941
didn't she begun streaming on B2 just before going on hiatus

>>57875941
Are you fucking deaf? Raden sounds nothing like triangle.

>>57875595
A shit husband that spends her money.

>>57874660
i dont understand why they are playing such a game
it's like they dont understand that it's shit for content

>>57875743
Considering the lack of any promotion it's good yeah, dare I say an overperformance for 2023's Ame's expectations

>>57875982
they got shitty numbers for holocure so you're wrong

>>57875762
>4k for a full branch karaoke
Jesas.

>>57875272
Korone developed a general reputation for
>Completing games
>Being an endurance streamer
>Memes
The combination is what lets her tank even the most random debuff retro shit she plays and still manage to pull 10k. Without first establishing themselves, FWMC have gone and dived headfirst into retro slop, and their numbers tank as a result.

>>57875941
That would be weird, Holo to Indie to Holo again are one hell of a cycle

>>57875762
>Selen lost to Axel
Good job killing your career whoring yourself to Twitch grifters

Can anyone pull up Patra's numbers for mega debuff games like https://www.youtube.com/live/yfRWF_S9jiE?si=VOUcvTjd8q6k4u1O
I wanna compare it to FWMC.

>>57875498
I don't think that's the problem. The root of the issue is that the games are just mega debuff for numbers.

Honestly I think a real problem is the massive amount of overlap during their debut week and second week. It really killed their potential for overlap with myth and council viewers. It was wild seeing every single holoEn girl cash in on the hype, and unsurprisingly disappear.

>>57876080
Yeah, me

>>57876036
I assume they are playing on original Hardware since I can't imagine Cover would be fine with emulators right?

>>57875837
they are probably using the timeslots they are most comfortable with, its not like anyone is forcing shiori to stream later than her

>>57875272
Critical Race Theory is better received in Japan.

>>57875762
Is this why Niji sisters have been very rabid with their attacks lately?

>>57876239
Yeah, they're using original hardware.

>>57876239
They are playing on a PS2 and playing the physical disk..they did the same thing for Sakura wars and Zelda

What's the highest numbers for fangames so far /#/s?

I wonder how long she can keep this up

>>57876239
Yes they are playing on original hardware for all their retro game streams. Which does add to the "shitty look" but I think they have a CRT filter on or something.
They use an elgato capture card which you can see when the ps2 is loading

>>57875272
korone is different
korone has a better streaming sense

>>57876207
Why exactly?

>>57876316
I dont remember Sakura Wars looking this ass

WHY DID NIJIGODS LOSE TO AXEL
I'M CRYINGGGGG
I HATE HOLOLIVE TO DO THEIR ANNIVERSARY NOW TO OVERLAPPED NIJI SINGING COLLAB
WHY, HOLOSTARS MUST BE BOTTING

>ip = 68
Where did everyone go?

>>57876041
Uhh you mistake me for that selennigger spamming miko bot. I'm the one who pointing his avatarfagging from the start with his reddit spacing post

praying that JPchads save advent in the minecraft collab, ENs future success hinges on this last gen

>>57876396
They're the only vtubers I watch who play retro games.

>>57876150
By your own words this is them "establishing" themselves. What do you think that word means? Playing buff games won't establish themselves as a retro gamer. Do you think Korone didn't start somewhere as well?

>>57876365
until the first big yab
so a few more months

>>57876406
Maybe they need to work on the settings for each game?

>>57876427
grim day today

>>57876427
>>57870450

>>57876427
nijinignogs lost to axel lmao >>57875762

>>57874875
>6 man karaoke
Go back to /MANS/ sister

Lo and behold, the conqueror of females and yurifags

>>57876530
still seething that your baits were getting drowned out?

>>57875875
Anon
>COLLAB SHORTS with Mumei
>Collab with Subaru
>Collab with Nerissa
>Multiple Off Collabs with Mumei
>Hosted the Council Anniversary
>Only EN streaming the Summer Fesitval

If she DIDN'T catch up in ANY WAY it'd be actually fucking pathetic

>>57876322
Holocure?

>>57876209
They can't really control what other people do. What they can control tho is their content choice.

It's not just about their game choice (which is the worst schedule I've seen for any HoloEN) but also they don't really do JP-style creative/gimmick streams.

The only thing they do right so far is the consistent morning shows and it's not enough to let them get away with everything else.

>>57876464
Sure, but sticking to the classics FIRST is more advised than.....this.

>>57876244
>most comfortable time slot
>coincidentally 1 hour away from each other
Yea, fuck off
Also, rrat
They put the loli on gura's timeslot because she's going to graduate

Thank god FWMC Morning might save their numbers from this.
They really need to stop fucking up their game selection if they want to keep their lead on advent

>>57876478
no sister, 2 more weeks!

>>57876550
Great, another future corpse for Miko to leech and suck dry

>>57876545
>niji sister got mindbroken by axel

>>57876613
Yeah, give me the best buffs, unless you know of a 3D fangame.

>>57876427
Nijifag still crying at doxxsite
And plan how to raid here and bot niji stream

>>57875460
Never

>>57876625
Bijou isn't on Gura's timeslot she's an hour before, retard. It's Nerissa on Gura's timeslot

>>57876625
>put the loli on gura's timeslot
learn timezones thirdworlder

>>57876638
Lol, they should just copy Biboos schedule and throw in a karaoke ever 3 weeks. Imagine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZt-35smBCs
Save her YAGOO!
anyone have her clip of ballet singing from V-carnival 2022?

>>57875460
We won't

>>57876765
they are literally too retarded to play any of the games biboo is playing

>>57875762
I wonder how it feels knowing that tempus stole your fans.

>>57876625
two more weeks as usual

So is it pretty safe to say that out of all of advent fwmc is the one who's numbers suffer the most from overlap? Bijou is barely affected when overlapped and Shiori seems to have a 5K floor no matter what

>>57876478
It must be hard to get mogged by axel
It feels better to let it out, sister

How to fix FuwaMoco and Nerissa Ravencroft?

>>57876765
Whoa whoa whoa, that would involve them actually streaming more, which they seem allergic to

>>57876550
>Talked with Homos on twitter already
No thanks

>>57876765
no
they need to focus on zatsu which is something they are good at
they need to stop playing games entirely

If FWMC really want to play retro games, they need to build their reps like korone aka go marathon.

>>57876765
They can barely understand how to run in Donkey Kong and that game has 2 buttons

>>57876765
Anon they wouldn't get numbers with that because they would play those games like ass
They CANNOT play anything more complicated than Ocarina of Time

>>57876887
She is actually the only one from ReGloss that didn't talk with them

I love my new wife Shiori Novella

FWMC lack endurance for retro games. They can't be a Korone.

But honestly the most debuff shit they stream are the VN esque games. Too long on top of not being to save the shit numbers.

>>57876866
I highly doubt that. I think their numbers are far more content dependent than anything.

>>57876406
Looks fine on an old TV, bad in "HD" because there's just not much visual data.
Every old console has hardware mods (or a whole replacement console) to pretty cleanly upscale the output for streaming.
But the dogs are going in raw, ojisan style.

>>57876687
holo gacha where you extract the materials to craft the currency in a sandbox world with a dash of VS combat to unlock outfits.

>>57876913
>playing this for 12 hours
they don't want to become 3views

>>57876887
proof?

Sisters, you think he regretted not joining Tempus?

>>57875232
I mean, I don’t even really consider it low. Like seriously, I know its not BIG BIG or any of that sort but who the fuck expects viewers on whatever the hell Fuwamoco played? Or Story of Seasons? You get viewers tuning in playing shit like Minecraft, Dark Souls, karaoke etc. not some random trash for streaming games.

But aside from that, I mean I tune into advent every day like most of their streams but lets be real EN has always been very streaky and when Gura is being an unironic lazy piece of shit who refuses to change her ways 3 years into her career and won’t hold herself accountable the way she should, viewers are gonna phase out until things excite them again. People want interactions and they want streams to look forward to and when you got girls like Gura or IRyS who refuse to even touch advent or go MIA it doesn’t inspire anyone to tune in

>>57876866
>Shiori 5k floor

Honestly not sure about that. She got a raid of 2 — 2.5k viewers 15 minutes into the stream. She probably has a 3.5 or 4k floor.

>>57876740
1 hour before is the perfect time to mog and leech, just like what Mori did for the Pizza Tower stream.

>Fuwamoco 4.7k

>>57876985
Are you okay?

>>57876870
You can only hope they will save themselves.
Their problems are apparent and easy to fix, and only their refusal to fix it would continue their decline.

>>57876870
>FuwaMoco
buff games and content
>Nerissa Ravencroft
Stop having runts as your oshi
collab with Bijou Fauna Koyori Kaela or something, learn from them

>>57876913
Nope they just need to accept that the EN audience doesn't give a shit about retro game content

>>57876867
>sister's face rn
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EvPvfVOUV8&ab_channel=eagleclaw

>>57877030
I don't think he's talented enough to join Hololive

>>57877030
Elira is not on Holo so not really. He can collab with her all the time on Niji

>>57877053
>using the pic of a chuuba that's graduating

>>57877030
Tempus is likely not getting their 3D anytime soon (or ever) so it wouldn't make a difference.

>>57877010
>>57877112
like i said, need to build their reps. For Korone case, she played a lot and wide range of games, not just retro.

>>57876866
>fwmc is the one who's numbers suffer the most from overlap?
that's the most retarded thing I've read all week so far
They are ahead in almost all advent collabs

>tempus vs niji
what a nice day for monkey vs monkey shitflinging

>>57876870
Literally just stream better games and collab with better senpai.

That's it.

>>57876985
.........based

>>57877053
Don't you have twitter or blog or something?

>>57877003
I was thinking more of an anthology...
DEMO what I was asking for was numbers for when they play fangames, lmao.

>>57876870
cant wait till Biboo burns through all the buff content Cover has perms for and she goes back to her natural state of being last in SCs and viewers

It's finally over hololive.........

>>57876207
Found it

>>57876986
Feels kinda bad when it's probably the type of games they want to share and play along with ruffians the most before debut...

Guess you gotta choose either comfort or growth.

were fwmc mornings and gaming viewers difference really that big?

>>57877158
Korone gets numbers because she is entertaining.
They are not.
They can't make these boring shitty games fun, Korone can.

I don't watch FWMC. Do they keep getting compared to Korone because they're both dogs and like to play retro games? Besides just playing retro game for 12+ hours, Korone is also an expert at interacting with her chat, and can maintain her high spirit throughout the entire stream. The closest Hololive has to another Korone is Koyori, and even then Koyori can't really keep up with the old dog when they were doing a retro game stream together.

>>57877114
kek

>>57877030
I mean he only gets 2% cut

>>57877175
>better senpai
name them

>>57876985

Sexy ass raid

>>57876765
they just need to play more horror games, shitty horrors will do

>>57877213
two more weeks sister
#cut4hex

>>57877263
because retards here are all korone clipwatchers and not korone viewers
so they think FWMC is similar because both play shitty boring old games

Why is ame still streaming the outfit reveal is over???

>>57875762
ITS JOUVER

>>57876985
are you the guy on twixxer?

All this means is that EUchads are the real viewers and Amerikeks would rather shitpost in /#/ than watch FWMC.

>>57877263
>Korone is also an expert at interacting with her chat, and can maintain her high spirit throughout the entire stream.
and somehow 2 chuubas in one channel can't manage to do this

>>57877112
Donkey Kong part 2 still got around 12k I think. They just need to play shit thats well known and not a snooze fest.

>>57877206
she will just switch to autism games

(also, she has basically zero sc lol)

>>57877203
you can only pull post ccvid numbers, so it boils down to Holocure, Idol Showdown and NuiNui (anyone not named Mori played it?).
so yeah Holocure wins by a landslide and sankisei still isn't in the game.

>>57876870
>How to fix FuwaMoco
play better games. at LEAST keep schedules to 1 debuff game (vn or retro) to a minimum.
take advantage of minecraft and story arcs as much as possible
>How to fix Nerissa
stop choosing the worst senpais to collab. kiara??? mori??? OLLIE??????? fucking really???

2nd highest en ccv today

>>57877262
Even then, Korone is one of the most popular (and entertaining) Holos and still doesn’t get the CCV PekoMikoMarine do because of her game choices.

It’s simple for a streamer. Play the popular/buff games.

>>57877237
AKA the Kiara dilemma

>>57877348
>can't manage to do this
they don't even try

>>57875762
Do we root for Tempus to kill Niji now? (provided they don't mess with the girls anymore)

FuwaMoco should collab with Ollie

what happened? why is everyone doomposting FWMC and Rissa, but praising Shiori and Biboo?

>>57877344
Said the brown SEAnegro

>>57877206
the sc shit isn't changing regardless of what her CCV is. She got mogged by mumei in their collab and mumei has the lowest SC in EN.
Especially if she really wants to stick to being a from girl

>>57877456
Well, this may come as a shock to you, but everyone here is retarded.

im tuning into FWMC as a premiumcuck but tabbed out in the background. do i count in the CCV?

>>57877272
Still shit fucking numbers though. If she didn't get that raid she'd be in an even worse position

Sisters back to baiting again so quickly
Getting mogged by axel must be a blow for them

So not only looking for KR but also trad chinese (TW?) in business managing, does this sound like a proper language branch in the future or just help building local business connection?

>>57877456
Discord raid, just ignore, they will stop by tomorrow morning.

>>57877237
They can still squeeze in a debuff game on a regular rotation and tank the damage. Right now the issue is there is so much debuff shit back to back people are starting to drift away.

>>57877431
As long as they all die, I don't care who goes first.

It‘s over

>>57877456
Bijou fans are fucking Asmon watchers, they will fling shit at other Holo and not give a fuck

Biboo is just Fauna 2.0 where she lucked out with the timeslot

>>57877456
Because FWMC has been consistently getting shitty numbers for more than a week now.
Nerissa never got good numbers ever.
Biboo is advent queen of numbers because she plays popular stuff and can make 6 hours streams fun
Shiori is just cope from novelites as usual

>>57876094
Hopefully their bad performance today will teach them that it doesn't matter how likable they are, they still have to curate their game choices. They'd need at least a year of consistent streaming before they can tank debuff shit like 'Cookie and Cream'.

>>57877396
how was it with Kiara? (I wasn't around for Myth first year)

>>57877377
EN has no part in current minecraft storyarc

>>57877456
Circle of shitposting

>>57877532
Nah, theyre just planning to have a better localization than relying to translators

>>57877456
Anon....
Entire nijiCN mogged by axel
Do you think sisters will not do a damage control?

>>57877431
Root for Tempus to kill Niji and then commit seppuku

The twins are fighting!!

>>57877558
GRIMU

>>57877532
Why do they use Gura when she doesnt even stream LOL!!!

>>57877532
The latter, which may or may not be a prelude to the former.

I love Reg7oss. Good music is exactly what HoloJP needs.

>>57876464
They're only doing one part of it. People checked out Korone because she streamed for long enough that no one else was on, and they stayed because she always tried to complete her games in one stream. People didn't watch her for the game, they watched her for the journey. The retro game choice did factor into it, but mainly because retro games are short enough to be completed in a day and hard enough to create suspense and doubt that she'd be able to complete it. Just playing a retro game in a normal-length stream in a normal timeslot doesn't do anything other than filter out people who never heard of the game.

See. This is why we need a cunny OP for every thread.

>>57877558
Raiden... my poor Raiden...

Regloss will be culled until their subs down to 10k per channel

>>57877601
and what should stop them from participating once theyre officially in the server?

DEV_IS should be for non-english foreign language branch....

>>57877573
Why are nijisissies like this?

>>57877561
the shit flinging is a fucking psyop, basically everone that is calling her biboo is not watching streams lol

>>57877573
>Plays popular stuff only
>Raids self waiting rooms
>Has the most convenient timeslot
>Goes long enough to consistently get raided
There you go, I summed up Bijou's success

https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1699260436062072852
SARA HOSHIKAWA THE HONORARY HOLO

>>57877652
That, and she attempted broken English without reservation.

>>57877558
>ISRAEL
When was the cull?

>>57877565
>Biboo is like Fauna 2.0
But I like Fauna and don’t like bijou tho……

>>57877688
If it works it works.

>>57877703
Two or three threads ago

>>57877558
even below KRISIS??????? fucking stop it already cover and move them to Hololive proper

>>57877561
>>57877683
not calling her biboo ofc

>>57877518
Keep seething ruffian, guarantee you she would've at least hit 5K by herself

>>57877558
It's literally whoever tweets gets viral gets more subs at this point. Finally a gen that wont be able to piggyback off Hololive brand. Their growth will be worth numberfagging for.

>>57876094
Very appalling since they are long time fans of Hololive. They over anyone else should know what to do and what to avoid. And yet...

>>57877701
I could have sworn there was another Niji on this radio show.

Holo vs Holo babies can leave now. The adults are discussing how to fix things.

>>57877532
Business Connections judging from the postings

>>57877757
the debut culls will be fucking brutal

>>57877264
Gura, Fauna, Mumei, IRyS, Ina, Kronii. Yes I added Kronii, because for all her faults her collab streams tend to get good numbers

>>57877532
business development
usually means marketing, b2b service type. basically looking for sponsors and collab partners like aniplus, popcon, etc.

>>57875197
what's the new number to reach as a basic holo standard?

>>57877558
MOGGED!

Ame is being cute today. What's wrong with her?

>>57877688
Yeah how dare she be smart, she should be an idiot and play cookies and cream for 3k people instead!

>>57877558
My wife will do just fine, don't doompost

RIKU, TASUKETEEEEE
PLEASE BOT US MORE
WE CAN'T BE LOSING AGAIN THE HOLOSTARS
WE WOULD GET MOCK FOR ENTIRE MONTH
PLEASE RIKU, TASUKETE

>>57877750
>FWMC almost mogged by fucking HOMOS
It's truly over

>>57877848
RAPEEEEE

>>57877558
>going over 4 channels
ngmi

>>57877837
homocollab happen
>Immersion ruined

>>57877777
Quints of truth

>>57877688
And this is bad because?

HOLOTH SOON.

>>57877840
starsgods winning

>>57877843
>>57877895
I'm not saying what she's doing isn't good, I just know her retarded fans will fling shit later and just boil it down to "she's cuter, better and more entertaining than the others" even though it's not as simple as that

>>57877468
Well at least she beat out Ina. Yeah it's only a difference of 30 bucks but a win is a win

>>57875763
They've been in a death spiral all year, with all the drama and shit. Their fans outside of here are just massively in denial about it

>>57877848
RAPE

>>57877848
RAPE
>RAPE
RAPE
>RAPE
RAPE
>RAPE

>>57877536
They literally haven't played any buff content aside from (arguably) Holocure. I don't want to say this but they seem eager to kill their 1 million sub goal.

>>57877750
OH WOW A WHOLE FIVE FUCKING K FROM A PERSON WHO JUST DEBUTED A MONTH AGO! Also, not a ruffian, I don't give a fuck about Advent. But stay mad.

>>57877777
Holy Lucky Number Witnessed

>>57877991
>>57877995
wtf

>>57877668
>current story arc is about the holos trying to pay off their debt in summer fest
>no EN went to the summer festival last week

>>57877935
>she's cuter, better and more entertaining than the others
if she doesn't possess these qualities, her raid to herself will be unsuccessful

>>57877935
>I just know her retarded fans will fling shit later
give it up sis, we all know it's you larping

>>57877848
That dumb hat is such a grim flag

>>57877848
NAKADASHI
>NAKADASHI
NAKADASHIIIII

>>57877595
she's still a numberfag deep down but streams what she wants (JRPGs) with slightly less menhera now. she used to give herself mental breakdowns over numbers

>>57877558
Holy fuck. Imagine how big the cull will be after the actual debuts

>>57875913
Kayfabe has been deteriorating EN sphere since 2022, I remember some of the chuubas had this self-hating notion about doing their own kayfabe for some reason. Even Pomu Enna and I forgot 2 chuubas on a clip were saying "I'm glad I don't have to pretend to be cute characters again" when NijiCN peaked at 2022.

Then more retarded trend like IRL vs Vtuber came out, torpedoing bunch of political agenda like LGBT pushing that foster within the comunity like Froot announcing charity stream to thelp Trans children, only for that charity to be outed as a massive scam and inhumane doctrine process of an underage kid. Then it got torpedoed further by bunch of literally drama level of twitch highschool retardation from both side of YT and twitch.

You kinda see this process as well in JP sphere where kayfabe doesn't seem to be valued much, but it's still early in the process. The only place were Kayfabe still standing is ironically Hololive both JP and EN. And more ironic that Holomem that has the strongest Kayfabe are one of the most popular chuubas in the vtubing sphere. Even Salami with how mismanaged Kurokara with her, actually bring in new wave of audience with her Ojou kayfabe.

Kayfabe still could sell, but it's just most of Vtuber are giving up or never even did one in the first place, they go straight to VERY CRUDE lewdbaiting not in a sexy way, but gross way.

>>57877935
Why don't other corpos copy her basic strategy? NijiEN should be able to do it

>>57878027
>absolute seething
>"a-also I'm not a r-ruffian sniff"

>>57878005
If you're being generous you can put Spooky Jumpscare Mansion in there too but reviewing their VOD catalogue its all debuff shit. FuwaMoco morning was the best idea they had because if not for that things would be super grim for them

>>57878041
wow numbers really doesn't watch streams

its hilarious that these girls got culled while advent was so minimal, it wasl like a mosquito bite

is there any hope for holoES?

>>57877456
>everyone

>>57877532
Local business connections most likely. I'll never dismiss the possbility of HoloKR but that's a case of me believing it when I see it

>Kiara Nerissa Minecraft Collab
>Kaela Bijou Minecraft Collab
which one will get better number, /#/ bros?

flop_is

6 hours superchat reading barely 3 hours game streams on average while playing the most debuff shit imaginable...

>>57877777
Pekosanji please... fix advent

>>57877848
Kek the only saving grace from Reflop designs and that is only because of the not Shigure Ui hairstyle.

>>57878214
the second one

CHIYOKO 1 MILLION!!!

Hello /#/, what tool is Choco using to view her subs count?

>>57878163
Stop bringing fanbase bullshit to deflect from the fact that she got a fucking raid and still is stuck at 6k. But hey you're going to bring in her SC next, right?

>>57877869
>>57877991
>>57877995
Eh? My wife is ... Shigure Ui?

>>57878113
Holy shit what is it with you niggers going on schizo doompost rants about the nature of vtubing itself because PS2 game westerners don't like gets shit numbers?

>>57878169
He probably forgot Bae exists in his rush to shitpost

>>57878262
Choco ch.

>>57878262
I'd imagine she probably has the analytics dashboard in a separate window capture

Mp 90% charged

>>57878214
the second and if the first is in kiara slot it will be a bloodbath

>>57878238
consider the following

>>57877558
30% sub cull is fucked up even for youtube sisters.
this gen is supposed to be for them and yet they kill it in the cradle

>>57878172
That’s because Dev_Is got botted more

>>57878348
This is a boy

Ame was so cute tonight bros...

>>57878214
fuck off

>>57878068
That was just having JChad as her original manager bullying her.

I like all of regloss voice more than holox from the song.

Why are people pretending Shiori's numbers are great. Am I missing something?

ANYA 1K DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>57878348
I’d be hyped for her but she already introduced herself to homos. My excitement for them is honestly close to zero

>suddenly stopped
is the mandated discord raid time over

>>57878214
>Kiara Nerissa Minecraft Collab
10-15k
>Kaela Bijou Minecraft Collab
8-10k

Cover is going to hunt down the perfect husband for choco