/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>57822372
Ironmouse, come home...

>>57822439
>>57822420
looks like AI. use better pics next time

So now that A-chan effectively ended that "holopro, not hololive" doomposting, I wonder if shitposters will abandon ship or find some other angle.

I am curious to see the next bit of schizophrenia.

>>57822303
> conclusively explained by a first party source
There are TWO first party sources.
> press release : "under Hololive Production umbrella"
> A-chan : "under Hololive umbrella"
Both of which are contradictory.
This result changes depending on whether you believe A-chan's on stream explanation or the initial press release, which is the most confusing shit ever.

Top

>>57822441
Shut up we don't need whore

Enough

>>57822450
twitter follow and reply

>>57822450
There is still the collab angle, doesn't matter how you look at it, separating from the main branch looks suspect

Good enough, but still slippable to Miko, I remember Steam shopping got Pekora to 39k, Miko would get higher

>>57822450
This is more worst idiot, 4 girls are interacting with Homos before debut, how the fuck do you think made them regrouped back to Hololive make it better????

I fixed your fucking retarded branding, Cover

You guys ready for the DEV_IS rhythm game in the future?

>Miko copying another Pekora stream
lel

>>57822467
Watch as Miko buys this in the steam stream and plays it now only because Pekora is doing numbers with it. She's so easy to read

>>57822462
A-chan's statement doesn't contradict the press release statement retard.

More clip numbers.
Updated my tables and a bunch of references broke, so had to do a check-over.
Split today is 17.3M(+1.2M) HL to 9.7M(-510k) NJ.
Recent split is 5.1M(+560k) HL to 1.6M(+300k) NJ.

>>57822486

That would make so much more sense

>>57822467
125k doko

>>57822482
It's Marine gold anon.

>>57822486
>not removing homoshit
One job

>>57822485

>>57822526
He was only hired for branding, fixing the company cost extra

>>57822462
I’d believe that A-chan would have the correct info considering she’s a director level staff member

>>57822520
Only you said that, grudgeposter.

>>57822508
Just ignore that baitposter pls

>>57822450
>They all mingled with stars, is your oshi gonna interact with those kinds of people?

>>57822512
Graph.

>>57822482
>nousagi being fucking cowards
what else is new?

>>57822485
it means they wont debut a boys or mixed gen in devis

https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1699022063103594740

>>57822420
Recent clip numbers
>>57745390
>>57745441
>>57745493
>>57745863
>>57745900

>>57822507
She's too retarded to play games like these.

>>57822393
That would be petty as fuck lol, No way Towa is that spiteful. She doesn't even deserve to be in the box if it wasn't for Pekora and Onyan

>>57822503
> sister using Miko for another timeloop
We are sooo back!

>>57822507
Miko will actually play those game unlike pekora who never did also slipped to mel on that day

https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1699022063103594740
Special 6th anniversary stream on the 7th

45k きtらあああああ

>>57822512
More clip numbers by Source.

They really think their audience is retarded enough to believe this shit?

>>57822526
Hopefully fucking soon. No concert, no merch, soon 3D to be put under the same milestones if they have any working brain cell remaining.

>>57822570
Lets gooooooooooooooo!

* YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY *

>51,829: Marine (Hololive)
>39,004: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>34,193: Lui (Hololive)
>29,369: Shiina (Nijisanji)
>28,122: Choco (Hololive)
>26,727: Shion (Hololive)
>24,569: Fubuki (Hololive)
>15,849: Mio (Hololive)
>15,719: Koyori (Hololive)
>12,750: Hinano (VSPO)
>12,304: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>11,690: Fuwamoco (Hololive)
>11,635: Botan (Hololive)
>11,156: Ponto Nei (Nijisanji)
>11,085: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)

>>57822482
No way a 45~50k stream slips to a jst 10pm miko pick some steam games stream

いいセンスだ

>>57822507
Anon,tell me Pekora play any games she pick yet?

>>57822555
>>57822581
I feel we just had the 5 year celebration. Where the fuck did the year go...

>>57822486
You can't refer to your streamer department the same as your company name, numbfuck.

>>57822572
Kek

Pekora 140k AC6 doko?

Playing ReGlogs MV song on the stream... They see the reception in number were BAD. DEV_IS put on under Hololive branch is actually their way of damage controlling

>>57822555
>6th
I don't think these are youthful, spry young women anymore...

why is pekora trying to fight a helicopter with a sword

Pekora is so getting filtered with this tutorial boss.

>>57822485
?
They are Japanese, it's just for the sake of politeness

god they're ugly

>>57822600
>SEPTEMBER 2023 GOLDS
1) Aqua (Hololive) - 45,789 - Apex
2) Iroha (Hololive) - 64,229 - Outfit Reveal
3) Miko (Hololive) - 82,404 - Minecraft
4) Marine (Hololive) - 51,829 - Parasocial

>PER COMPANY
4x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
1x: Aqua, Iroha, Marine, Miko

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
169x: Hololive
61x: Nijisanji
8x: Indie
5x: VSPO
4x: Neo Porte

>PER STREAMER
57x: Pekora
21x: Miko
17x: Marine
9x: Nijisanji
8x: Subaru, Toya
7x: Hololive
6x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Suisei
5x: Yashiro
4x: Fuwa, Hal, Iroha, Mio, Shiina, Towa
3x: Chiroru, Leos, Okayu, Koyori
2x: Aki, Flare, Fubuki, Hinano, Ibrahim, Korone, Lamy, Lui, Maimoto, Nerumero, Salome, Shion, Tsukasa, Watame
1x: Air, Ayame, Beni, Chloe, Choco, Fuwamoco, Gaku, Gura, Gundou, Hibari, Himawari, Ina, Kaede, Kanata, Kanato, Kiara, Laplus, Lize, Mel, Mito, Mori, Mysta, Noel, Nose, Nozomi, Nui, Polka, Ponto, Qpi, Rikiichi, Roco, Ryushen, Ui

>>57822485
Probably because they wouldn't be the first to reply to homos on twitter and then never actually stream or make content with them.

https://twitter.com/livedoornews/status/1698938258271662583
UUUM, the guys who kicked Mikeneko from joining their APEX tournament, just filed for bankruptcy. UUUM is affiliated with Hikakin as well so it's a huge surprise that they crashed and burn.

>>57822615
He effectively created another department for the homos instead of putting them under Hololive Production.

>>57822503
Holy fucking newfagi, Miko already done stream like this back in 2020, it was Pekora who copied her.

>>57822621
>Reception was bad
Almost 500k in a day is great, what the fuck are you talking about anon

>>57822633
This is cope

>>57822627
You start out with that weapon set with that mission
Also laser swords are cool

Passionate sex with Shiori~n!

>>57822486
A real branding fix would also involve a completely new name for Stars that didn't contain Holo in it anywhere and probably ditch Stars as well.

>>57822450
I'll admit I was wrong, I don't know where you got the confidence to say otherwise though given all the new ground they've already covered.
>4/5 homo replies pre-debut
>under holopro instead of hololive
>new branch instead of JP7

Now that we know ReGLOSS is officially a new Hololive gen and considering that all the members are Japanese, what can we expect for the debuts? 200k? 250k?

>>57822450
Grouping them under Hololive only makes things worse when they eventually collab with the homos.

>>57822318
kek no, Koyo got 15k yesterday I was here for it

>>57822587
Much more believable than shitposts here

*YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN TALLY*

>9/4 DAILY TALLY
11,690: FuwaMoco (Hololive)
8,624: Mori (Hololive)
8,530: Bijou (Hololive)
6,694: Wilson (Nijisanji)
6,522: Kotoka (Nijisanji)
6,193: Alban (Nijisanji)
5,145: Baelz (Hololive)


>EN GOLDS FOR SEPTEMBER 2023
1) Mumei (Hololive) - 21,874 - Unarchived Karaoke
2) Luca (Nijisanji) - 28,501 - NijiMelody Relay
3) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 12,142 - It Takes Two
4) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 11,690 - FuwaMoco Morning

>PER COMPANY
3x: Hololive
1x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
2x: FuwaMoco
1x: Luca, Mumei

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
11p: FuwaMoco
5p: Luca, Mumei
4p: Mori
3p: IRyS, Pomu, Sonny
1p: Bijou, Meloco

>>57822462
Who do you think A-chan is, retard. she's not just a spokeperson of hololive. she's practically Hololive's on-field lieutenant

I dont really care as long as pekosanji gets the gold
Another day another nijigold

>>57822587
>N-no guys they're Hololive, it just a coincidence that 4/5 of them loves Holostars and want to collab with them

>>57822462
No, the result changes based on whether you're a retard.

The Hololive Production umbrella covers both Hololive and Stars. Dev_Is, as A-chan just showed, is a new Hololive branch. Your lack of IQ points prevents you from understanding this, though.

>>57822495
Crazy that they don't have one already, would print money

>>57822669
i think the damage is done

>>57822524
Stop hyping up a marine drawing stream.....

You are based though

>>57822572
kek

>>57822638
>UUUM, the guys
The company, they're one of the first "entertainment companies" focused on youtubers in Japan.
It's a surprise to see them fold so SOON but it is not a surprise that they folded, they didn't really have a business model other than
>we have the biggest youtubers signed with us
Gives me "Mythic" vibes

The ReGloss part is over and there was literally no news besides the "it's actually under hololive" thing.

>>57822462
Holy shit there are really too many schizos here. Can't even think for themselves anymore.

>>57822512
More clip numbers by language.
ja: 11.8M(+700k) to 8.4M(+120k)
en: 4.5M(+450k) to 1.4M(+10k)

>>57822674
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
182x: Hololive
61x: Nijisanji
3x: Holostars
1x: Idol

>PER STREAMER
23x: Fauna
21x: Gura, Mori
19x: Mumei
17x: IRyS
14x: Baelz, Ina, Mysta
13x: Kronii
10x: Amelia, FuwaMoco
9x: Kiara, Vox
4x: Bijou, Pomu, Selen, Shu
3x: Luca, Nerissa, Nina, Ren
2x: Alban, Finana, Hololive English, Ike, Shiori, Wilson
1x: Bandage, Enna, Elira, Flayon, Fulgur, Luxiem, Millie, Petra, Regis, Roca, Rosemi, Sonny, Vesper

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
222p: Fauna
166p: Ina
165p: Mori
159p: IRyS
151p: Mumei
129p: Baelz
114p: Gura
105p: Mysta
101p: Kronii
93p: FuwaMoco
92p: Kiara
83p: Amelia
74p: Vox
72p: Luca
37p: Shu
36p: Bijou
31p: Selen
28p: Nerissa, Pomu
27p: Shiori
24p: Nina
19p: Ike
17p: Sonny
16p: Ren
15p: Enna, Fulgur
14p: Uki
13p: Finana, Millie
11p: Axel
10p: Alban, Elira, Hololive English, Wilson
9p: Vesper
7p: Regis
6p: Bandage, Rosemi, Kotoka
5p: Flayon, Luxiem, Petra, Roca
4p: Bringer, Magni
3p: Bettel, Hakka, Poko
2p: Meloco
1p: Kyo, Maria, Shinri, Pippa

>>57822606

Wait? one of them has a name "Lyrica"!?!?!?
FLIP STATUS!?!?!?!?
>FLIP STATUS!?!?!?!?
FLIP STATUS!?!?!?!?
>FLIP STATUS!?!?!?!?
FLIP STATUS!?!?!?!?
>FLIP STATUS!?!?!?!?

Why make a whole new group though. The holobox is so strong, this is uneeded separation that might muddie the water. The only reason I could think to do this is that dev_is was made so girls who might not stream as much wouldn't have to worry about stalkers and antis that the girls in the main branch can get because they don't have the streaming expectations. Thinking of the laplus situation.

>>57822656
500k a day is good for a normal streamer, not for a music oriented branch with the new debut hype. Their subs are also in the gutter

>>57822485
Im just gonna treat them like seasonal anime, give them 3 months.

Pekora...

>>57822627
Why not? I beat it using only the sword and nothing else, and I was apparently a scrub if my pvp is any indication.

>>57822638
This is probably why Cover's and AnyColor's stocks has been tanking for the past month

>>57822462
retard

>>57822486
>some random anon doing better work than management
BASED

WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT ......
>IT WAS THERE THE WHOLE TIME!
How can this thread be so blind to have missed something THIS OBVIOUS!
NOW YOU CAN'T UNSEE IT EITHER!
(no, I won't take my meds, thank you very much!)

>>57822719
Graph.

Pekora suffer kino commences

>>57822669
1/5
What worse, one of them replying fuckboi

>>57822659
nah. we've always accepted official and professional interactions between JP holos and JP stars.

>>57822735
They might have plans to debut new bands at a rate that's pretty unprecedented in Holo. And don't wanna sling out 3-4 brands between actual streamer gens.

>>57822659
Poor third-worlder, never learn how to be polite in social interaction....

>>57822666
>4/5 homo replies pre-debut
Other girls have responded to homos on twitter without ever collabing with them. They wouldn't be the first.
>under holopro instead of hololive
Anon, this is what A-chan cleared up. They *are* under Hololive.
>new branch instead of JP7
Another anon brought this up. What this might mean is that there could be an EN group that debuts in this new branch.

>>57822627
Git gud, take that thing down with a sword
>t.Fromsoft

And just like that, DEV_IS is fine in my book. They'll still collab a lot with homos tho sadly

>>57822638
That’s pretty funny, didn’t they just sign some pledge shit with Anycolor and Cover recently?

>>57822486
Post this under their twitter and leddit

>>57822635
they are pretty cute for a couple of flat femboys

Is kojimale still shilling pekoras stream or he's just a fake nousagi

>>57822638
Good I guess, that was a dick move.

>>57822482
>Steam shopping got Pekora to 39k, Miko would get higher
What does that even mean? Implying miko has higher ccv than peko? Or that peko stream was overlapped to hell?

>>57822737
I'd argue their subs are in the gutter because the press release makes it sound like the focus is gonna be on the Dev_Is channel and they're not gonna use their individual channels much. We'll have to see when the debuts happen.

>>57822669
I'll keep with my prediction that 100k is a given, but I doubt that they'll beat Holox and might even lose to Advent since this is a new branch and people are definitely less excited about it than they would be for an actual JP7.

Now to watch their subs skyrocket

>>57822669
Once you miss out the initial hyp, it's over. Unless they can manage to get 200k subs before the first debut, don't expect more than 100k

>>57822659
this is a homobeggar delusion

>>57822785
I honestly do expect some music collab and maybe a stream to shill it, but I doubt it's gonna be a regular thing.

>>57822793

>>57822486
We're playing armchair managers now?

>>57822753

>WHY IS HE AVOIDING MY ATTACKS??? *CRYS*
KINO

>meanwhile on /v/
Is /vt/ just /v/ with anime girls as extra steps?

>>57822486
based

Can't wait for those Hetships with da bois am I right JPChads ???

>>57822835
>now

>>57822486
Change it to homostar, so sister can't use their retarded angle, "uhm acksually they are still holo"

Wait, Miko moved her stream to 9pm JST? She got scared?

>>57822769
>>57822781
>>57822828
Poor JP"chads"

>>57822486
>Hololive Japan
Nice try ENshart. Hololive's main branch will forever carry the original Hololive name to set itself apart from all the substandard subbranches. It is the original flavor, the Coca-Cola of the Coca-Cola Company to your Diet Cokes, Sprites and Dasanis.

So peko shuba bought some games on steam and on stream. Did they play these games?

>>57822740
soi soi soi soi soi soi

>>57822842
Fake she already played it off stream

>>57822827
The initial hype seems to be going fine though. Shunkan Heartbeat got close to 500k views in one day and Japanese fans are very excited about the new debuts.

>>57822638
f. karma hit them in weird ways.

>>57822857
Anon, keep your fantasies inside your head

>>57822753
>No horn

>wants to open male branch for en - fails
>wants to open another female branch to attract female audience and be a singer branch - in progress to fail
>two years for two new branches
Why can't they go for sure fire success branches like holokr or holotw?

>>57822674
As long as overlap hell persists FWMC Morning is a free gold as long as there's no special EN streams like a karaoke or something.

>>57822815
I think the only saving grace for them is that JP have all the mindshare in the world over there. Advent was like the injection EN needed, but this is like a hypercharged JP waving their power around.
I feel like 140-150k is possible for debuts but I don’t see them getting anywhere near the same success afterwards like an actual gen would

>>57822587
This shit is damage control at it's finest.
I'm 100% sure they saw -
> uh? who? hololive? gen 7? no? don't care
sentiment on their socials, along with the backlash from holizontal and decided to jam this fucking project -
> with a different logo
> with a different text layout de-emphasising Hololive
> with a black theme rather than a blue one
into the "Hololive" umbrella hoping people wouldn't question why it's different from their press release or why it's under "Hololive" while being Japanese but not under "Hololive JP" for some reason.

This is yet another dumb branding mistake, similar to naming their male branch as "Holo"stars, permanently keeping them under Hololive's shadow.

>>57822880
>>>/jp/nijisanji

>>57822486
BASED BASED BASED

>>57822862
Hololive Stars has always been a thing

>>57822735
They want to divorce themselves from the expectations of being a Holo while also trying to use the brand to gain a fanbase foundation. Another thing is that they want to avoid cries of favoritism once their 3D activities ramp up.

>>57822817
But even the dev_is channel is sub 100k with a full song in it. There hasn't been less hype for a holo debut since 2020

lol these pekora triumphant screams never gets old

>>57822835
That's one of the best parts of this thread. Well, anything is better than the dumb ass shitflinging that happens most days.

>>57822740
Is that boss supposed to be hard? Haven't played the game myself, but from Biboo's and Mori's streams it didn't look that bad. First boss I've seen them struggle a bit was the one with the whole bullet hell thing going on.

PEKORA IS WIN!

>>57822881
HOLY FUCK, based on that deadline, they're debuting a new wave in September?

>>57822866
Pekora Dm'd her begging her to not overlap

>>57822880
Have fun with your increased stars integration, JPchad.

>>57822794
feel free to do it
I don't care about social media good boy points

>>57822927
Widdle babby ENshart got its feewings hurt by cold hard facts again. You will never inferior. You will never be relevant.

>>57822892
Didn't lap get 1M with her kamippoi cover?

https://audition.vspo.jp/en/

>>57822960
>You will never inferior
kek, WTF is this even?

>>57822669
easy 300k and koshien mogging

>>57822960
>you will never inferior.

>>57822960
kys ESLtard

>>57822847
Man with the difference in new threads per hour we really might as well just be a general board.

>>57822881
Where's leakanon?

>>57822793
Gen 0/EN1/Dev_IS 1 anniversaries are all on september.

the best vspo member with a 10k floor

>>57822957
Any day now ENcel. As opposed to the EN branches irreversible starts contamination. I'll take our chances.

>>57822960
>you will never inferior

>>57822952
Most likely before this quarter ends

Peko gold

Why are they getting nijien wave 18 tier growth…

>>57822960

Noel will soon pass Coco for most watched vod

>>57822954
And other lies spectrum tells himself to sleep at night.

>>57822960
Nice brain damage

What is reddit reaction to A-chan quote about DEV_IS?

>>57822982
You're not accounting for the end of summer buff. 370k EASY

>>57822778
>Other girls have responded to homos on twitter without ever collabing with them. They wouldn't be the first.
That's why you should ignore shitposts and witchhunt around homo interactions aside from collabs. It's simply a matter of manners for some of them to respond to the homos. Judge them by the content choice if you care so much. Let the girls speak for themselves by their actions.

>>57822990
>Gen 0
Just Sora

>>57822945
>Mumei and Fauna are back in the US and are gonna have to fly back for this
I kinda hate it.

How many times have Hololive rrats been blown away by management?

>>57822735
They want a music focused group but they also want to keep debuting traditional vtuber gens. It's cordoned off as it's own thing so it doesn't feel like an Accelerate! situation.

>>57822867
such a sad person you are

>>57822976
>>57822983
>>57822995
>>57823004
>>57823013
Gottem. Complete and utter ENcel seethe.

>>57823001
Did Sio actually come back?

>>57823006
t.no mercy

>>57822847
I've had more video game discussions in this godforsaken place than in /v/. nu-/v/ is just wojak spam, /pol/ shit in vidya and tranny hate threads

>>57822793

>>57822638
Huh, I didn't think I'd be right when I said that they'd end up going in the red if they kept doing tournaments with insufficient sponsorships.

>>57822992
let her do a solo stream and then the thread will talk

>>57822960
Sisters havent been this pathetic in months

>>57822928
They're probably planing to debut DEV_IS 2 as boy band, at least until the backlash.

>>57823005
PERKELE!

>>57822987
That's how you know the board is normal.

I was taking a shit, did Peko hit 50k?

>>57822866
>>57822954
>Writing fanfiction
We have always knew it will either be 20:00 or 21:00 for her, it’s literally on the frame. Have you actually consider the possibility that she got home later than expected?

>>57822526
The homos have been there since 2018, if Cover had in plan to drop them they would have done it way before. They have always been 3view shitters and it'll probably stay that way.

>>57822952
>>57822881
MORE NIJIFLOPS TO COME

>>57822793
Good window for Tempus 3.

>>57823014
Finally the unity BS is gone for good.

>>57823005
Noel of all people... hololive only grows stronger

>>57822485
Why is respectfully replying to homo for the sake of courtesy on X bad?
You want your oshi to be an upright and polite female

>>57823080
nope

>>57822960
>you will never inferior

>>57823048
おめぇ絶対日本語出来ないやつなのにwww

is 45k kneelworthy for peggers?

>>57823029
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1699022063103594740

>>57823014
AAAAAAIYEEEEE T-CHAN TASUKETE
DELETE THE POST!!!

>>57823057
>and tranny hate threads
kek, some silver lining then. Reminds me of /fit/ and "fat people hate"

>>57823084
Tick tock sister. Tempiss is going to be the first to go

>>57822638
Is mafumafu under uuum?

>>57822892
JP-nigs coping hard rn, no way this is a good traction even judging by their subs would spell GRIM...

>>57822992
nice bots

>Nerissa bait thread
>People just primarily shit on Ollie instead
I underestimated how much people just straight up dislike Ollie

>>57823109
Not kneel worthy, but pretty good.

>>57822881
who the fuck is that on the left

>>57823080

>>57823109
Thats low for a giga buff new game

>>57823053
https://twitter.com/yue_fsp/status/1698607106960896334

>>57823110
は?できるし?なんなら試してみるか?

>you are cover and want to expand the holobox
how would you do it anon?

>>57823109
Not for peggers, but for a story game is still pretty good.

>>57823122
Japanese fans don't sub until after debuts.

>>57822992
damn chat is slow as fuck

>>57823138
Some AI-generated vtuber /vt/ made up

>>57823129
>I underestimated how much people just straight up dislike Ollie
When Ollie said she wanted to change Hololive that really reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllly stuck with people

>>57823143
Not 125k ?

>>57823129
Ollie is homobeggar prime so hate on her is justified

>>57823117
Get hit by a truck. I just want to talk about Live a Live shut the fuck up about the austrian school or drag queen storytime or whatever stupid bullshit you’re trying to force in i just want to talk about fucking video games.

>>57823129
I legitimately avoided her for more than a year until she collabed with my kamioshi. Never heard her voice until that point and it's as annoying as I imagined. However she has improved somewhat since.

so if they wanted to debut a boyband they would have to create a new holostars branch called 'holostars dev_is"
which they won't anyway because the homo branch is fucking brand poison

>>57823129
I mean, cgdct faction hate her for obvious reason, and the sisters hate her for being obnoxious af.
Don't forget that she's also the deadsub queen of entire hololive.
Honestly everything about her holo career has been a monumental trainwreck.

>>57823158
Fire all homo then release dev is

>>57822994
Jezas, JP-nigs are Homobeggar all along

>>57822934
I wouldn't be suprise if they got 3d under a year like uproar.

>>57823158
Debut a new gen with a different target demographic from the current talents.

>>57822925
We don't even know how different they are from the other Holo branches so it's hard to gauge how successful they'll be after debut, but if they all have frequent karaoke streams and they're all good live singers (and looking at Ao's potential rm she is pretty good) they might go far because of it.

>>57823158
Debut gen 7
Make a music group inside hololive, instead of debuting a separate branch
Can the homos
Don't need to expand the holo box, the current one is enough

>>57822566
Why the fuck are you replying to that lol

>>57823129
Are you new? Ollie is the worst holo member by far

>>57823129
Ollie is probably the most disliked Holo on this board, she has literally zero redeeming factors

>>57823129
I mean, the thing is Ollie is genuinely, unironically, a Niji talent with "Hololive" in her name, so yeah people dislike her.

>>57823129
ollie has so much baggage for a lot of stupid shit, poor girl is retarded

>>57823129
Holoan in disguise

>>57823189
>Live a Live
Is that the game that tanked Mori's CCV? If so, whatever maladies befall their thread, it is deserved!

>>57823129
>"I want to break the bubble!"
>surprised pikachu face when people who feel safe in the bubble end up disliking you for the (numerous) attempts

>>57823157
うおおすげぇ今度は英語勉強すれば?You will never be inferior草

>>57822974
with bots and hookers

>>57823109
Honestly after her pathetic showing the past 6 months? Yeah
Good to see she found a buff game for her

>>57823158
>first close holostars branch
>let the ikemen vsinger capture the female audience
>also debut a true gamer branch

>>57823222
>Don't need to expand the holo box, the current one is enough
Stagnation is never good for the long-term.

>>57823158
Go all in on making a good Gacha/Anime that gets people interested in the streaming/music side of Hololive

>>57823206
>holo career
She just joined last month

>>57822659
>they need to treat them like dogshit and show no signs of politeness whatsoever because uhhh, because uhh...

11 in the tally,
8 holo
1 vspo
2 indie

>>57823211
There isn’t much of a backlog anymore so that much is a given. ID3 showcase is on the horizon which would just leave Advent and the homos (though Yagoo’s interview stated that they didn’t really plan to support them 3D wise).

>>57823181
Show me the universe where a 10k waiting room become a 125k stream. Niji event need not apply

>>57822659
Brown skin who act like monkey does not know what is proper etiquette. pls la

>>57823129
Even indogs hate her, this girl is cursed

After AChans explanation, do you guys feel that ReGloss would do as well as regular HololiveJP?

>>57823083
Ignore the daily p v m schizos my fren. Miko set her frame same time as peko few hours just. She rescheduled coz meeting.

Also peko Miko overlap every day. So the scared narrative makes zero sense but is used for shitposting everyday. Same thing like doomposting against Pekora.

>>57822960
>You will never inferior

>>57823281
Works for EN3 and most of EN and JP so far

>>57823236
Wut? Ollie is one of the Holos that went to the GREATEST LENGTHS to remove herself from the box and explicitly mark herself as
>intended for all audiences, not exclusive for Hololive
She got EXACTLY what she aimed too: similarly to Hana Macchia, she has LOTS of name recognition and across the vtuber fandom (and even outside) but an anemic audience because being known and having your content liked are two very different things.

>>57823298
No

>>57823053
most likely, and will harassed to shit just like the last two attempts

>>57823005
Probably 3/4ths of the people watching this were jerking off.

>>57823251
ただの入力ミスだけだ
You will always be inferior.

>>57823129
She's so desperate for views she even collabed with the biggest hololeech

>>57823280
Nigga, your original post reading comprehension reps...

>>57823292
>Niji event not applied
Why you scared?

Dimitri Jap Man Thing.

>>57823077
Ketäs edustat?

>>57822735
To target new market duh

>>57823158
Launch Anime shorts like HoloAlternative, Launch Gacha game, Launch Roguelike game.
Continue debuting girls with legendary artists designers like Yoshitaka Amano, give a JP girl another Wada model.

>>57823158
fill it with water

>>57822896
>Fantasies
Lol lmao

>>57823297
that's because she insulted them because they wanted more indo speaking

>>57823298
No, and I don't think Cover expects them to either.

>>57823269
That doesn't apply here. Just stick to what you are good at instead of spreading too thin. Let the holos gain new viewers instead of trying to force it through the management

>>57823298
No, for a simple reason: it does not look like they are going to be live streamers.
I believe they can be as successful as Mori tho, big music numbers

>>57823329
dont invoke his name, you are not worthy

>>57823158
>Sell the homos to another company
>Debut a gamer-focused gen under DEV_IS like VSPO
>Debut another GFE-focused gen, also under DEV_IS
>Debut HoloKR\
There. They will expand the box without using the homos.

>>57823283
Niji?

>>57823002

i fucking hate this bitch now

>>57823298
>do you guys feel that ReGloss would do as well as regular HololiveJP?
holofans have an expectation of content, we dont know what dev_is content gonna be, the girls are for a very rough start

>>57823269
>Stagnation
It's called stability, meaning which enough new people come in to offset the people leaving the hobby.
Endless growth is a myth.

>>57822686
Ok, so according to you (and A-chan) -
> this is a new Hololive branch
> that speaks Japanese
> but is not under HoloJP
> and doesn't have the same blue "Hololive" logo or text in their branding (which literally every other branch has)
A-chan also directly contradicted the initial announcement of this being under "HoloPro".

I'm not the only one who went with that press release explanation btw.
Both Koyori as well as Botan put them as "not Hololive, but a sister branch". So this layout would be news to them as well.

If this isn't A-chan making a mistake, it will go down as one of the biggest branding mistakes from Cover after Holostars.
If this was ACTUALLY designed as a separate Hololive branch that's under "Hololive" but not under "HoloJP", the logo would look like pic rel.

>>57823364
Pekora is niji

>>57823344
Jpfags have a wonderful new gen kek

>>57823378

>>57823298
>regular HololiveJP
yeah... like gen1

imagine if HoloEN forced the tempus fags to try and converse with advent on twitter like they did with homostarsJP.
people would have screamed bloody murder

>>57823299
kek it happens in the prechat was well

>>57823325
Jesas spoiler that shit. Ollies existence is proof that complaining about Holo vs Holo is dumb, every Holo is better than her, CGDCT vs CGDCT is the real sin

I guess we finally have a reason why these new girls act like they're holos on twitter.

>>57823231
I believe she's definitely the single most hated Holo in this board. Mori and Kronii had their arcs (multiple in the former's case) but I don't see a single soul ever willing to give Ollie a chance.

>>57823298
If they are not going to be streamers but musicians, they should be releasing a full album right after their debuts, otherwise they are doomed

I'm starting to appreciate AC6 rigs... it's bijouver..

>>57823350
>>57823355
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hEvgKL0ClA
Ask them to do covers like this, show the fans their singing ability
Thats how they will attract music fans, not by the idol songs

If DEV_IS is for music unit branding. Then they should just debut Umisea, Star Flower, Negi U, Orio and other official music unit under that banner

>>57823298
no. their content aside from music is a mystery

>>57823378
>A-chan also directly contradicted the initial announcement of this being under "HoloPro".
except she didn't. dev_is is under hololive and by extention, under holopro

Yagoo has created an all new female-fan focused branch to draw in new female fans (homostar fans are not human)
With this, we will begin Stage 3 of the Japanese Repopulation Program.

>>57823386
You wish, sister.

48k people watching a rabbit paint her mech why?

>>57823298
With streams? No
With music? Yes even better

>>57823014
So it's pretty much innk 2.0. Expecting gen 2 next year then if this thing work out for them.

>>57823410
?
They are Holos from the very beginning

>>57822960

>>57823280
the topic was about Ollie retard

>>57823378
>not Hololive, but a sister branch
The Japanese branch is also called Hololive so she's not wrong.

i've seen an increase of crypto bots replying to hololive accounts on X

>>57823378
They're a sister branch the same way holoEN and holoID are. Botan said this. Stop being delusional and take your meds.

>>57823298
No, but I don't think that is the expectation for them. Their music needs to do well though.

>>57823378
Anon, take your meds. What Botan said was not
>they are not Hololive
but
>they are not JP7
and called them a
>SISTER
group to HoloJP, which is exactly what the "parent company / sister branches" organizational chart by A-Chan is showing.

Stop hanging to your (at best) misunderstanding of what reality is or take your meds to resume your normal functions as a productive human being.

>>57823436
Sure sure

>>57823377
Wise words thinker man.

>>57823411
I can tolerate Kronii and Bae in collabs with Fauna and Mumei, or with IRyS. The only time I gave her a chance was the among us collab the day for tempiss debut, and look how that went

>>57823421
They know that they're shit as a unit.

>>57823437
bunny funny

>>57823325
Ollie held apex tourney but didn't join holizontal was beyond me.

>>57823463
These faggots are engagement farming for twitterbux.

>>57823448
Expect them to be integrated into the holo JP branch before the next fiscal year starts

>>57823298
If they’re not streamers then they better be releasing song after song, especially if JP7 gets released anytime soon and kills their mindshare.

>>57823378
>Both Koyori as well as Botan put them as "not Hololive, but a sister branch". So this layout would be news to them as well.
It won't because it's like HoloEN or ID. They are sister branches as well.

>>57823419
First, they need to upgrade their fund.I don't think they get the same fund as Hololive if we compare Advent and ReGloss PV

>>57823482
>meaning she's not one herself
Thanks for proving my point SEAster.

>>57823503
Doubt she got invited

>>57823437
NO _____

>>57823325
Was he wearing that hat on purpose?

So correct me if I'm wrong, Hitomi Chris did have a debut stream before shit hit the fan for her and she got shown the exit. Mel replaced her as part of Gen1 after having debuted a few weeks prior.

Does that mean that officially for a window of a few weeks that Mel was Gen0? I only found out about the Chris stream and knew about the switcheroo but I figured it happened before debuts and that Mel was always Gen1 and only Gen0 briefly in planning. Kinda weird that she was truly Gen0 for a small window of time.

>>57823487
kronii is hilarious whenever i see her in collabs

>>57823298
Each member, especially Ririka, have done a lot of interactions with their potential fans on twitter. So they'll probably do pretty well if that doesn't change after debut.

>>57823378
You think A-chan would go rogue and give info that didn't come directly from higher management? Dev_Is is no different than EN and ID. They're all Hololive but they aren't HoloJP, and Dev_Is is likely separated because it won't be a JP-only branch and we'll probably see EN and ID girls debuting under it in the future.

asking for nijijp girl tally

they are not under HololiveJP because they want to debut multi-language dev_is generations
remember, yagoo said that the wanted to pander to chinese speaking audiences (or at least the investors demand it)
And I guess we might also see an EN speaking dev_is gen if the whole project is successful

>>57823421
some members are in 2 or 3 more unit, so debuting them dev_is can be confusing

>>57823503
Because it’s a JP only thing. IRyS only got invited cause they were desperate and she lives in Japan

>>57823421
That isn't what it's for. It's an actual Hololive branch, not a marketing label (like Holozontal or whatever).

>>57823378
Botan says that Devis is considered HoloEn. And even the HoloX trailer says Holive Production. For Japan, Hololive Production is always HoloJp, HoloId, HoloEN. I blame Omega for this misunderstanding

>>57823325
Zeta collabed with him too and she's part of ID's golden gen.

>>57823528
>Hitomi Chris did have a debut stream before shit hit the fan
Nope, she got subbed in by Mel before debut

Anyone else do buttstuff do destress and unwind?
My oshi is Marine btw

>>57823528
What do you think Gen 0 is?

>>57823378
>Both Koyori as well as Botan put them as "not Hololive, but a sister branch".
Is the company doing 'stealth' damage control/backtracking?

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYAb-Vv6Fo0
DEV_IS going to shorts too

>>57823516
She's niji at heart which is far better

>>57823518
Sad but probably true lmao

>>57823562
Zeta is annoying as fuck

>>57823378
They didn't say not hololive. They said another hololive branch like en or Id. En and Id, both also hololive. Both also holopro. It's very easy to follow why are you having so much trouble. It's retarded for sure because of retards like you but if you are willing to think about it long enough to make that post amd still not follow there is an issue with your brain.

>management: Let's expand our box
>DEV_IS is under holopro and not hololive
>nips confused
>freely reply to Homo
>subs tanked
>management: CODE RED CODE RED! LET'S CHANGE IT! TELL A-CHAN TO SHILL THEM AS HOLOLIVE
Yup they are panic now

>>57823585
They cute!

>>57823534
I wonder if long term plans may lead some of the main branch members to pull back from Idol route and singing. If DEV_IS is for performers, maybe some of the girls will return to focus on streaming only.

I just want them to debut and tell us why they need to exist

>>57823550
>TW and KR vsingers
Do it Yagoo

>>57823458
>>57823324
It's amazing how keywords in that anon's post can trigger responses like that.
Almost robotic.

>>57823463
They look for new stuff that is trending and popular and try to latch onto it.

>>57823528
Yes. Mel was never meant to be Gen 1. Gen 1 had the common theme of "schoolgirls" and all of them debuted within a 3-day window. Mel debuted almost a full month before them.

>>57823404
it's almost like there are cultural differences at play. the JP stars have always been professional. even tokino sora has collabed with them in the past.

>>57823355
> I believe they can be as successful as Mori tho, big music numbers
People watch Hololive music because they like Hololive members anon.
Without streaming, these new girls will not have a dedicated fanbase that will defend them. They will be treated as "musicians" and hence their competition and comparison becomes mainstream JP musicians like Ado, Honeyworks, Lisa etc.
I honestly think they'll just have some mid-ass music with maybe 1-2 "acceptable" songs.

>>57823437
Yes and nousagis said don't set up grudgepost against her. When the predictions were around 40k. Heck even one guy said 25k

>>57823378
>it will go down as one of the biggest branding mistakes from Cover after Holostars.
I mean they are doing damage control now, it's better than knowing it after a year or worst, a repeat of holostar.

>>57823515
they dont need to produce high grade MVs from the get go..... focus on showing singing abilities and singing popular covers, establish a fanbase and then once they start SC and memberships then they can self finance

over 7k waiting

>>57823573
Sora, Roboco, Miko, Suisei and AZKi right?

>got btfo by Achan's org chart
>do more retardation

>>57823625
Aki and Fubuki are schoolgirls?

>>57823158
force gura to stream at least 5 days a week or tell her to fuck off
build a house and studio in NA where the girls can live and stream from
hire 5 dudes who do nothing but work on game permissions 247
make a hololive gacha that actually has good gameplay

>>57823625
Hitomi Chris my beloved...

>>57823608
I hope so. Finally miko and pekora holofes watchalong.

This doesn't have the same impact when it's yuri/lesbians desu

>>57823642
easiest 50k stream in my life

>>57823597
So this is the quality of our shitposter, not even a threadreader.

>>57823625
>There is even printed materials
Holy fuck, mind blown

>>57823080
She killed the tutorial too fast and has been in customization and training for 20 minutes so the numbers leveled off.

>>57823579
good, that's the new meta

>>57823628
They are supposed to be even more closed off than EN

>>57823625
>女子高生
>JK
Yes. All of Gen 1's outfits are school uniforms believe it or not.

>>57823642
Let's see how well that holds up against JP prime hour overlap hell

>>57823574
They're technically not wrong, I blame cover brand recognition stupidity for this kerfuffle. Hololive is under Hololive which is also Under Hololive Production. Whoever decided this was a good idea should be fired

>>57822735
Dev_is is a Trojan horse to eventually push homos into the holobox. These girls got just about every homo to tweet them (management mandated) early to prime this unity. They didn’t want it to be an official JP7 Blue Dorito branded gen because they want to have a mixed band or a boyband as one of the future gens. They will also use their branding as idol singers as a reason/excuse to collab with males on music and live shows. This should be obvious. Screenshot this for a grudge post if you like. This whole project is Omega tier future faggotry.

>>57823597
They even put them on far left of the graph >>57823014 to disassociate them from homos

>>57823631
>They will be treated as "musicians" and hence their competition and comparison becomes mainstream JP musicians like Ado, Honeyworks, Lisa etc.
I partially agree with that part but I'll bring Marine as a partial counterexample. Her music is doing much better *outside* the Holo box than inside and I believe that's the bet Cover is making here.

There are more indie than Niji in the top 10 list today

Did A-chan collect first army

>both cover and anycolor are stupid at project branding
is this the new meta for Vtuber corpo?

>>57823528
Gen 0 is an artificial thing, it's just everyone who didn't debut as part of a proper Gen. Mel would have just made Gen 1 larger.

>>57823597
They need to remove the poison from the source, remove the homos and hololive will heal

JPChads, join me in a toast to Hololive JP's bright future.

>>57823574
??? Technically they are right. Dev_is is a sister branch.

>>57823503
That was apex. That was people running around an apex lobby doing random bullshit.

>>57823706
meant for
>>57823653

>>57823585
Nope. Salomelive is Hololive at heart. She regrets being in Nijisanji where her potential was wasted and Pekora took pity on her and took her under her wing. This is a canon event, you cannot change it.

>steals your homo audience
nothing personal

>>57823625
The art of Hitome Chris looks so out of place with the rest of gen 1.

>>57823378
Anon, please, meds.
Your explanation literally amounts to "A-chan just went rogue and announced them as being part of Hololive even though they're not".
I mean, that would be based of her, but come on.