/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>57664220
Who the fuck is this faggot

>>57664220
This guy is way, way too late to get on the vtuber bandwagon.

>>57664220
Feels like he's leeching desu

>>57664220
i dunno but this guy seems pretty based

>>57664220
>why watch sluts when i can watch waifus
he is a faggot but that comment is right.

>>57664220
Get the fuck out of here

Towa thread

>>57664220
why must you post this jobber on every board

>>57664353
sex with towa

>>57664220
Based Bobby

>>57664220
he is extremely hated by sisters

Three years late my man.

>>57664220
My thoughts are that this faggot is dumb and annoying and you should never post his dumbshit face here ever again

>>57664285
He is, he's trying to hop on the most popular band wagon. The only real life streamer who can pull it off mainstream is Sykkuno but that's cause he can play the 'ambiguous sexuality' card. The others are small time streamers like Nagz n shit.

>>57664220
Because niggas like cute anime bitches. Better question is why do so many people watch some middle aged balding faggot

>>57664220
I watched it so you don't have to. Here's your summary
>people like watching cute and hot girls
>girls don't like doing makeup/showing ass on camera
>girls turn to vtubing as a loophole
>guys don't care either way, they just want to watch cute girls
I don't think he understands that people would rather watch vtubers than 3d

>>57664220
stop posting this stupid faggot, you do this like ever fucking hour

>>57664220
All I got from this is Male Vtubers shouldn’t exist. They already dominate the streaming field

>>57664448
sounds reasonable, ok vid I guess, thanks for the summary
/thread I guess?

>>57664445
because he does the soijak face at the thing they like to give their feelings on something validation

>>57664500
>All I got from this is Male Vtubers shouldn’t exist
how come you thought of that

>>57664443
lol he has a 80K CCV.

>>57664220
God I hope he dies on stream from his shit lifestyle but he's such a jew he probably has a nutritionist in reality.

>>57664220
It been true since 2021, vtuber are for women, fleshstreamer are for men.

>>57664448
>I don't think he understands that people would rather watch vtubers than 3d
Most normalfags can't fathom it actually

>>57664220
All I know is this guy played holocure and his copycat followers also started playing holocure. Now these people are falling in the rabbit hole.

>>57664896
Happens all the time with his room temperature IQ fanbase. He shat on weebs/weeb culture all the time and his chat followed suit. Then he played FFXIV and all of a sudden his chat all love anime and catgirls

>>57664896
honestly going from playing a game, enjoying it and liking the characters, to finding out there are streamer versions of them must be pretty cool.

>>57664551
nta, but the calculus is pretty simple.
Why are female vtubers so successful? They appeal to a lot of male loner nerds who want to watch cute girls. Prior to vtubers, their only options for content from females were vapid 3DPD ethot twitch whore streamers. Now vtubers exist, and they're both cuter, funnier, less bitchy and more agreeable, in general simply better and more appealing to those male nerds than the previous offerings, so it's no wonder they flock to them. (Giant disclaimer, obviously "bad" vtubers also exist who're basically just the same old 3D ethot whores but with anime avatars, but on average the top vtubers are more quality than the top female irl streamers).

So the target market and unique selling point of female vtubers is pretty clear, and the success proves them right. But what's the target market and USP for male vtubers? The same but just gender-reversed? So, female audiences who want to watch pretty anime boys and get something from them that they couldn't get from male fleshstreamers previously? Well, sure, some of that exists, but obviously not in the same numbers to match the "male audience -> female vtuber" success. Or is the target audience other males who want a "brotuber" experience? Again, for those there's no shortage of male fleshstreamers you can claim as your "bro", and there's little point to just putting some faggy anime pretty boy avatar on top of it. So, male vtubers have a much smaller target audience so far. I wouldn't go so far as saying they "shouldn't exist", but it's always gonna be an uphill battle for them and you gotta recognize they'll never be as successful as female vtubers in AGGREGATE (important, so you don't need to counter with cherry-picked special-exception examples like how a few JP niji males are big or how Luxiem was FOTM with chink fujos/yumes for a while, yeah those are exceptions that prove the rule)

>>57664220
>thoughts?
Japan people are so easy. Some gacha/Apex/mobile games/popular old franchises of kusoge, then add brand power to the mix and there it is, you get numbers. This is what happens when your country is so small tons of people don't consider buying PCs

Valkyrae isn't just a real girl she's also like 31, get married and have kids you fucking hag. Vtubers 'work' because you don't know who they are and never age, no one wants to watch a woman who should be planning what preschool to send her kids to try to relive her teens into her 40s. That only works for Dr. Disrespect (he is not a woman).

>>57665217
Senchou...

>>57665132
If brotuber is dime a dozen in the fleshstreamer industry, does this imply there is simply an untouched market for yaoibaiting, manwhore flesh streamer?

Like if a vial of bathwater sells, why not a cum rag?

>>57664896
>his copycat followers also started playing holocure.
Given how much backseating he got on his Holocure runs, you can be sure a lot of his followers already played it before him.

The problem is slightly different. It's not that they all hate "weebshit", most of them (being males in the 20-30yo age range) do indulge in weebshit themselves or at least tolerate it (plus nowadays with all the culture war bs going on, a lot of people are more amenable to "weebshit" because western media in comparison has become so pozzed), BUT they were still closet weebs, and because Big Daddy Streamerbro was still anti-weebshit until a while ago, they were either silent about it or even joined in "y-yeah fuck that weebshit, h-haha...". But now that Asmon has given them the sign that it's "ok" to come out (played FF14, Tower of Fantasy, Honkai Star Rail, had multiple appearences with vtubers... naturally, it'd be quite awkward for him to continue hating on weebshit while his Mythic agency gobbles up every twitch indie vtuber), they're much more open to it.

>>57665295
SEX
SEX WITH MARINE
I WILL GIVE HER PRESCHOOLERS

>>57664443
The closest Hologirl these twitch clout chasers will ever get close to is probably Mori, and that's being generous. They'll have to settle with Holo rejects, and sloppy seconds like Ironmouse.

>>57665132
>but it's always gonna be an uphill battle for them and you gotta recognize they'll never be as successful as female vtubers in AGGREGATE
obviously, they're a niche within a niche, but it's retarded to say they shouldn't exist just because they never will be as big as their female counterparts

>>57665313
>does this imply there is simply an untouched market for yaoibaiting, manwhore flesh streamer?
Sure, why not. The existence of korean boy bands proves that there's at least some market for these kinds of contents aimed at female audiences, and there's been some instances of male fleshstreamers gathering a sizeable female audience because they appeal to that sort of faggy softboi gaypandering that attracts femcels and shippers like flies to shit.

>>57665132
The only good use for male live2d avatars I see is they can be used by streamers who don't want to show themselves but want to be able to show their reaction to things.

>>57665388
Kobo and Ollie have both been on Koe's stream.

>>57665587
Yeah, but this also benefits females much more than males.
To be a successful female irl streamer, you have to be conventionally hot or at least pretty dolled up (case in point, most of the successful female irl streamers look good, whereas with the successful male streamers there's much more variety in looks). So, many girls who may have entertainment qualities but didn't have the looks couldn't succeed in traditional fleshstreaming previously. Now they can just put on an attractive anime girl skin and it doesn't matter anymore how uggo they are irl, they can let their other entertainment qualities shine through and they are more likely to find an audience that wouldn't have previously considered them.

With males, there's much less pressure and judging based on looks. At least not from the male dudebro streamer audience, sure if your target audience is female then yes they also care about how attractive you are to them, but at least the male audience doesn't really care as much (in fact, you can even look "too good" and faggy for them, and being a neckbeard neet slob is much more accepted because it's "relatable" to your audience).

>>57665823
but you also have to admit it's a good strategy because the "no facecam" male streamers don't really work anymore, only legacy streamers pulled that off, like Jerma and so on

>>57664604
And if his ccv drops below a certain a number he disappears for a month and resurfaces with a dumb treehouse menhera video. He only cares about views.

Kinda weird of him to hop on this train now

>>57665675
Yeah but they're retarded.

>>57665944
>now
He's been trying to leech off vshojo for years. He's just realizing it's not going anywhere and is trying to wiggle into the holo market (it won't work obviously)

>>57665944
He finally realised Hololive is where the views is at due to Holocure

>>57665823
All the same points apply to male streamers and when it comes to Japanese streamers some people just don't want to show their face for privacy purposes.
Gay anime male model isn't an instant turn off for japanese audiences.
>inb4 but why do holostars suck
Because they suck.

>>57665132
male vtubers should take advantage of the live2d or 3d technologies (like that retard with the cod soldier avatar) otherwise it is just a waste of resources

Male vtuber = debuff from male fleshtuber
Female vtuber = buff from female fleshtuber
Simple as

>>57664448
>I don't think he understands that people would rather watch vtubers than 3d
He understand it, he pretty much gave a powerpoint summary on why people watch male and female fleshstreamer and why vtuber is superior for woman.

>>57664220
>e-celeb trash isnt vtubing OP

>>>/b/

>>57664220
>ctrl+f 'mom'
>0 results
>ctrl+f 'killed'
>0 results
I expected better from you, /vt/
also Asmongold killed his mom

>>57666400
>I expected better from you, /vt/
Why? This is /vt/ and he is a fleshtuber, chances are we dont know even if we know who he is because we dont care to watch him.

>>57664220
he's got the standard novice clipwatcher take of it

>>57664220
>There are these ridiculously hot women who are absolute fucking losers.
>They do the exact same shit that you do.
>They live at their mom's house and all they do is play video games, they're obsessed with social media, they get mad about things that don't have anything to do with them.
>They're complete fucking psychotic losers.
>You have a lot in common with them.
He doesn't even know about the sisters, but he absolutely called them out KEK

Joking aside, he had some good opinions, such as the fact that everyone likes cute anime girls.

forsen

>>57664604
Anon, WoW is dead, I mean he is looking for the next thing that can keep those numbers. Diablo is shit, everything he grew his content on has dried up.

People are mad and call him a leech but he is actually bringing tens of thousands of new viewers (unique, bot ccv) and potentially other fleshstreamers attention to the Holosphere. Its gonna be a give and take

>>57666658
>ridiculously hot women
>sisters
anon...

>>57666658
No shit, what makes me despise the guy is that he has been an unironic weeb for years. He's entertaining, but he has bad Ls stuck to him for ages.

>>57666787
He's pretty much more popular than any EN Holo chuuba, which is why the leech accusation is kinda silly.

>>57664220
I hope he see's Tower's Fans
>I wanna fuck all of them

Best part of asmon's streams were mcconnell. It's not the same without him

>>57665313
nah it's illegal. bridget is a girl, and yaoibaiting manwhore flesh streamers are just eggs that haven't been cracked. rip Cosmo

>>57664220
So who's his oshi?

>>57666796
There's hot and ugly femanons, just like there's hot and ugly anons. Most chuubas are unironically vtuber fans who decided they had what it took to take the plunge, and a lot of them are pretty hot IRL desu.

But then again, my standards aren't skewed by instagram or 3DPD porn so maybe we have different definitions of what counts as attractive.

>>57666010
any ideas about which ones he's aiming for? he's a "fan" of one of the most popular members isn't he

>>57666909
Kqsii

>>57666909
Dunno, but he said he wanted to main Ayame in holocure

>>57664220
>Asmonbald
Why does anyone care about this retard'w opinion

>>57666787
None of that sounds good to someone who has enjoyed Hololive as it been for the past four years. A large number of the people that watch Asmon or other streamers around him seem to fit that stereotype of the millenial/zoomer who interact with things behind 7 layers of irony and only contribute by trashing on things around them.

>>57665313
Sykkuno is basically the stereotype that
>>57665494 describes.
30 something year old asian softboy went from doing autistic league commentary/gameplay to acting like a shoujo anime boy, farming femcels and fujos left and right

>>57666973
He unironically doesn't know any of them besides Gura and Pekora because he's a numbermonkey. His chat even uses Korone/Mori emotes but he doesn't associate them with the actual chuubas.
He's learned about a few like Fauna/Ayame/Suisei because of Holocure

>>57667010
This is the biggest tragedy in vtubing. A pure, extremely cute jop 2view got corrupted by asmongold. Absolutely disgusting

>>57667153
Much like how EN debuts didn't sound good to anyone that had been enjoying hololive up until that point.

>>57667447
And they were proven right

>>57665930
>Asmongold stops streaming regularly
>Gura stop streamning regularly
THEY ARE?

>>57667489
>he doesn't know gura's alt is the face of twitch

>>57667153
Aee we really prwtending that Mori going on Trash Taste and Gura being le meme shark did not bring in those people?

>>57666156
No, you don't get the point here. He doesn't get why some people would never watch women unless they are vtubers.

>>57664285
he watches stuff that shows up in his subreddit and recommendations, he doesnt actually actively look for these.

>>57665217
>Vtubers 'work' because you don't know who they are
And yet, you faggots literally dox every damn one of them.

>>57665823
>(in fact, you can even look "too good" and faggy for them, and being a neckbeard neet slob is much more accepted because it's "relatable" to your audience).
Sounds like we have the winning formula for a male vtuber aimed at men.

>>57665132
I think the key is that normal female streamers generally must be attractive to succeed, vtubers do not have to be irl and this opens up opportunities for more agreeable girls. the relative privacy as well

>>57668894
Who the fuck is "you faggots", maybe you're the one doxxing them and trying to pin the blame on me huh? I'm onto you, chud.

>>57669067
Unironically this was partly why I watched Vesper for the first month or so before dropping tempus
I thought his design was intentionally ugly to aim for brotubers and avoid the fujo/yume crowd

>>57669449
He was a vampire, women fucking love vampires, here's your blackpill- even an ugly nerd vampire will always mog you airbreathing dweebs and your women will let them suck their blood for free.. I'm not a vampire btw.

>>57665875
>no facecam
>Jerma
He was showing his face for a long time. Not a lot, but he still did.

It's the character component.

People don't want to watch an actual person doing stuff, they have their friends and family for that.
Vtubing is anti-parasocialism, where you're becoming invested in the antics of a character doing whatever.

>>57664448
>I don't think he understands that people would rather watch vtubers than 3d
The collective West (USA specifically) doesn't seem to understand that at all. That's why Netflix and Hollywood keeps trying to leech off of anime by remaking it into live action, without them realizing that weebs like me aren't interested by default since we see live action as an inferior, uninteresting medium without even taking into account the political/cultural problems of todays US movie industry. At best they'll cheat a normalfag or two into watching their "adaptations." In the same way I have zero interest in fleshstreamers. I never watched or will watch or have any interest in female streamers, be they e-thots or just regular. I never watched any streamers in any capacity until vtubers. Me, and a huge number of us aren't the audience for fleshstreamers of any kind.

>>57664220
He has a very elongated rodent like face. Also it's really fucking weird for a huge streamer to "suddenly" be into vtuibers in 2023. Does he have a stake in some new shitty corpo or something?

>>57669712
Mythic is owned by him. Look up how many vtubers work with it.

>>57664327
Bobby Marley knows what's up.

>>57669785
I fucking knew it.

>>57664266
he is just one of the very few big names that don't get filtered by loli

>>57669712
He owns a vtuber corpo.

He isn't "suddenly into vtubers"
He was on Ironmouse's show two years ago, collabed a bunch with Silvervale, is friends with some /lig/gers like Lucy Pyre and Nyanners, and has generally touched on vtubers for at least two years
He's just talking a lot about Hololive now because he's been playing Holocure, so the people on his subreddit have been sending him links to things related to Hololive

>>57669978
The guy who has gone on the record complaining about it doesn't get filtered by it?

>>57669654
>a huge number of us aren't the audience for fleshstreamers of any kind.
s small number of you

>>57670087
iirc his instance on it is "I don't like this shit but it's just drawings"?

>>57664220
He's just jealous.

>>57670087
He had a change of heart obviously. Actions speak louder than words

>>57664220
I honestly don't even know this dude except that people trying to make a big deal out of it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeBwLW0AFoQ

They're really blowing up, if you know what I mean...

>>57670139
https://obscenegaming.net/clips/LongTalentedStapleChefFrank-Z_r6VaDB16EnkgQf

>>57665823
Voice is important for men, appearance is important for women, having a tolerable personality is important for both.

>>57664220
Because of him a bunch of people are being exposed to hololive. They are people with bad enough taste to watch him. They don't speak JP, so they won't watch the JP girls. His fans are going to show up for EN streams. Great!

>>57666871
Mcconnel had a mental breakdown over WoW losing so many people to FFXIV and ended up becoming a massive classic dickrider.

>>57664327
Would Selassie have been a vtuber today?

Why people like vtubers
>anime girls are better looking than real girls
>fake gf simulator
>the biggest hololive yab is smaller than the smallest normalfag twitch streamer drama
>vtubers actually enjoy video games/anime

>>57670130
Let me rephrase it: real vtuber fans don't watch fleshtubers, tourists and casuals watch both.

>>57670454
Essentially every fleshstreamer who mentions vtubing is a liability and a gateway of shit.

Serious question, why Koyori is top #1 and surpased Pekora?

Everyone overthinks it. It's because anime. That's it.

How come people will watch anime but they won't watch Korean TV drama? Exactly.

>>57670809
She streams an insane amount of hours

>>57670809
She's streaming basically all the time, and also streams multiple times in one day by playing different games.

>>57670809
She's always streaming

>bijou hanging with koyo and peko
holy debut batman. Honestly deserved though, the cutest and funniest en there ever was

>>57670809
this is based on "watch hours", not ccv or vod views etc., and a "watch hours" metric tends to be biased in favor of streamers who primarily grind long streams (a 1hr stream with 100k vod views will have a lower "watch hours" metric than a 5hr stream with 100k vod views). This is also why you sometimes see streamers sneak into a "watch hours"-metric based ranking that may only have a low 4view ccv but kinda game the system by running up the score with spamming 24hr contentless "sleeping streams" etc.

>>57664266
>>57664285
You guys have no idea how disconnected asmon is from all this, he legitimately knows nothing about it.
Also
>leeching
He’s one of the biggest and most recognizable streamers on twitch. It’s just a react fag at this point that looks at everything his subreddit votes up, he’s not "trying to jump on the vtuber bandwagon" lmao. He isn’t Connor

>>57670809
Because hag sex

>>57664327
Super Based.

>>57664327
That guy said he is 39 btw
insanely based

>>57670966
I wait for the day Biboo can catch up with her.

>>57670157
Let me guess this is really what started it.

>>57664327
I'm the same age and might say the same thing but I don't know if I'd go around putting my whole age and quite possibly my real name into the mix just for people to light me up. Holy shit, the balls.

>>57664220
I've only seen clips of this guy every now and then but it feels like he's been getting groomed by black pillers

>>57664220
ひなーの

>>57671049
huh. fwmc are funnier thoughbeit. and i like biboo - but she unironically has the lower age zoomie type jokes like what my name is, im not bald, etc

>>57671345
If you started getting into the internet early on one of the earliest things I remember being told in the late 90s was make your email your Name+Birth year so it'd be easy to remember.

Guy just never got around to getting a new name and email.

>>57664220
If he wasn't rich he'd be in prison for killing his mother.

>>57671886
That was definitely a 90s thing because by the 00s it was all
>never give anybody your real info
>never post pictures of yourself
>that cute girl is an FBI agent

>>57664220
Shitmongizz isn't a vtuber, faggot. Get it off our board.

>>57672186
Yagoo isn't a vtuber either and you still see his aids face across the board and people sucking him off.
>y-yeah but uhh he's the boss of a vtuber agency
lmao by that metric Assmongler counts just as well with his Mythic org shit

>>57671650
Bijou has mass appeal while FWMC are more niche. Their subtleties are for ojisans, not zoomers. Also, they are not ESL friendly like Biboo.

>>57671345
tbqh that's one of the easiest ways to tell the difference between gen x and a millennial

>>57664220
>Thoughts?
No thoughts. Head empty.

>>57664220
How do you become a random dude on the internet getting hundreds of thousands of views for reacting to clips without any particularly insightful commentary?
I would like to make easy money, too.

>>57671093
who's connor

>>57671650
>fwmc are funnier thoughbeit
Not really.
>but she unironically has the lower age zoomie type jokes like what my name is, im not bald, etc
Sure, that's some of her humor but not all of it. There's a lot more to her humor than just that which is why Biboo has such a wide appeal compared to FuwaMoco. Biboo just has more appeal period.

>>57664448
That's /vt/ in a nutshell
Asmon has ignorantly good take in this case

>>57673043
CDawgVA, boyfriend of Ironmouse and one of the worst blights on vtubing as a whole

>>57672983
Actually believe in your bs and have good circumstances consecutively at the right times. Asmongold is rich now, but when he stops nobody will remember his streams, because none of it was watched because it was significant. People just needed someone like them to validate their bad takes and opinions. But why follow a new one when there are already a handful people currently providing that for a large audience?

>>57664220
>Asmongold point out people watch male without caring much about appearance (true)
>The only debuff a man can get is not being ugly but being fat (true)
>Asmongold point female streamers strongly judged by appearance (true)
>Asmongold point that VTubers are judged by personality since most are generic cute girls anyway (true)
The only thing he skipped is he doesn't talk about male VTubers and how they have very narrow market.
Literally nothing wrong with it, just saying the obvious to ignorant normies.

>>57665313
It's pretty funny that years in people are still trying to brainstorm how to make a male vtuber work in the west.

>>57672067
overweight, diabetic old mom with heart problems from decades of poorfag life dies from said problems
is heartbroken over it, often shares many of the memories they made together
>he killed her
??? lmao, are you a real person even?

>>57671093
As someone who has seen him and videos of him. He isn't leeching, he's either poaching or trying to pressure the holosphere to conform to his opinions.
The guy is a huge hypocrite, he shat on all vtubers who used loli models and everyone that liked them as pedophiles but proceeded to make exceptions for the ones he likes.
He goes on rants about how anyone who feels any kind of love for a vtuber or waifu is a loser who failed at life. Ignoring he does the same.
Shits on content creators who does parasocial stuff when he also does it.
While it is his fans that put the stuff on his subreddit it is done solely to have him try to either fuck with a vtuber fanbase or pressure the vtuber to acknowledge and show subservience to him like the ones in mythic.

pekora's actually washed

>>57674057
Shouldn't have given her that cigarette.
At best that's negligence.

>>57664220
I don't usually watch his clips or videos but all he said was on point
Why does he always get hate?

>>57674138
you've never had to take care of old, sick relatives, have you?

>>57670087
His vtuber daughter is a loli now

>>57674138
Nah, he knew it would happen deep down. Probably felt stuck having to take care of her and wanted to be free. He might feel guilty a bit but he's actually relieved to discard a burden. Guys a sociopath.

>>57674069
Yeah I agree that that’s retarded, but I also think he doesn’t *really* have an opinion on any of this. Asmon's opinions just seem a reflection of his environment, of what his chat wants to hear. I know this is a very easy thing to say as that applies to most streamers and people in general but with Asmon it’s really apparent. He would flip in a heartbeat if the consensus shifts. For example when he accidentally pushed Kqsii on twitch, you can tell he didn’t relaly know what to say at first, he was looking what the chat first said to it and once seeing that many just found it cute he went with it. And it was overall a friendly interaction even though that’s just as much a loli model
>inb4 chibi cope
Point is, he can fliflop on a whim, you shouldn’t really put too much weight on what he said

>>57674138
>>57674322
holy retards

Can we just get rid of every retard who acts like Charlie?

>>57664220
mods big sleepy

>>57671345
you cant fucking be this retarded to think thats his real name right

>>57666658
>He doesn't even know about the sisters, but he absolutely called them out KEK

>>57664220
he is 2 years late lmao

B-But /vt/ said the vtuber scene is dying...

only a holonigga would say asmongold is grifting holy shit lmao

>>57671345
another 83er? what the fuck are we even doing here?

>>57664220
Buy an ad

>>57676052
Holo board. This video showcased Hololive's superiority, so it counts.

>>57674074
>pekora's actually washed
>9h 40m compared to 33h 55m
ok retardchama

>>57670139
>I don't like this shit but it's just drawings"?
based

>>57669607
hes been using this model of his for a long time now, i admire his dedication but i can't wait for the he does a face reveal!!!!

>>57675135
You can't be so retarded as to think the only person named Robert Marley is a famous guitarist.

>>57666077
You're being disingenuous. A lot of the top male streamers aren't the most conventionally attractive people, because they don't have to be. Contrast that with the top female streamers and you notice there really aren't that many ugly people, because being an unatractice female is basically instant failure as a streamer.

>>57675754
All happily married ojisans are alike, all ojisans on vt have their own reasons.

>>57669712
He will fuck gura.

>>57671128
>>57671085
>>57670966
>>57670884
>>57670920
Kaela...

>>57677492
You're the one being disingenuous here because you know exactly how some holos look, but you want to force this western streamer view for whatever reason.

>>57670809
That chart is watch time, so if they stream more with decent viewership then they'll be high up there. That's why Ars is up there, she's got double the stream time of valkyrae and furen and 3x the time of pekora. And then Hinaano up there with 45 hours

>>57665944
Think its cause of some vtuber he watched(either or on purpose or on accident, I dont remember what led to it), to the girl's credit she's taken advantage of the situation and is doing really well now.

This nigga and most twitch faggots are textbook cases of narcissistic humblebragging. Everything they say and do is from the standpoint that they're superior to everyone they interact with, even when they think they're not being obvious about it. This is confounded by their possy of yesmen who they can easily get rid of by banning if they display dissent or a harmless opposing viewpoint. You can tell they've never once believed in their life that it was possible that there existed somewhere in the vast universe someone more impressive or interesting. They assume themselves to be the penultimate, as if a byproduct of nature rather than nurture. No amount of proper parenting could have made these emoticons of Narcissus anything other than what they were born to be. They say positions corrupt the person, but in this case I can say with confidence these positions are simply alluring to those naturally gifted in the art of self deception. They are incapable of showing respect to anyone without finishing it off with either a vague comment teeming with subtle sarcasm or a reassurance of their disinterest in the admirable qualities of another (because the topic is something other than themselves or their childish opinions).
That's not to say that chuubas cannot exhibit this behavior. It's just particularly grating to see these mentally challenged manchildren act like they've ever had a positive effect on anything other than their bank accounts.

No one here is going to watch your shitty wow content, fuck off faggot

>>57675289
Myth is dying, Council is stagnating, Anykara is imploding. But there's a lot growing out of their ashes.

>>57664220
Him and his circlejerk have seen the viewership they're able to get on YT and want to leech, but he's too late to hop on the bandwagon and Hololive isn't going to give him attention unless he targets 3 view shitters like Ollie or the homos

>>57679061
It doesn't really have much to do with that small jp vtuber he recently came across, he was already appearing on streams with vtubers occasionally for 1-2 years now, only they're mostly big western twitch vtubers so no one outside /lig/, /vsj/ or /wvt/ cares, nothing that impacts the usual jp groups like Hololive that are on youtube.
The reason why you're hearing more about him now /here/ is mostly because he recently played Holocure, and fans are pushing more vtuber stuff on him to react to (was the same when he started playing FF14 for example, or "weeb games" like ToF and HSR), which thus makes him "relevant" for this mostly-Hololive board ... or at least retards think so who post this shit in the first place.

And it's no real mystery why or how he gets involved with the twitch vtuber cliques - just look up the talent management agency he's part of (Mythic) and see how many vtubers they have, you can imagine the mutually beneficial business reasons behind him playing nice with that crowd.

>>57679673
His agency is trying to do a vtuber awards show in December, like the streamer awards but just for vtubers
I imagine he wants to get in good with them so they show

>>57664220

Dude I fucking HATE this faggot, he first gets his start being some cringy WoW player then keeps getting views shitting on WoW and once that dried up he latched onto Vtubers. First hating them for clickbait now wanting to befriend them.

Lives in squalor and generally is a tryhard. I really wish he would just fucking go away. I always cringe everytime his dumbass face is plastered somewhere about Vtuber news.

>>57671093
>It’s just a react fag at this point that looks at everything his subreddit votes up
i.e the very embodiment of a leech.
He does nothing on his own and only uses(leeches) from other people's content.

>>57670368
Based.

>>57679755
Yeah I just read an article about it and it sounds hilarious. A vtuber awards show organized by vtubers, yeah that certainly won't be an incestuous clique circlejerk....
Can't wait for Gura to snub them again.

>>57679900
Sure, but he’s more of a general leech of whatever is in front of him. He isn’t trying to specifically leech off of vtubers like connor, lost pause or koefficient

So what happened to the cute jp vtuber he fawned over? I hope the EOPs didn't just ruin her chat and abandon her afterwards.

>>57664220
can you guys stop posting this gay ass nigger, noone cares about his mother murdering face

>>57664443
Sykkuno is just a small fish in normie streaming ecosystem anon. you don't know enough what most normies are interested in.

>>57680198
Shes still 7x her old average at 350 and got partner now.

>>57674396
Oh well that clears it up, I'm glad that Asmon is not some hypocritical two face liar jumping on the latest trends, but instead is an ignorant retard with no opinions of his own.

>>57664242
He's someone who fucks with his video tags when something is trending.

>>57670809
I don't know why you got so many replies when you can figure things out by reading the fucking chart

Pippa brainwashed a bunch of retards into thinking this dude's opinion matters, get this flesh creature out of my chuuba board

>>57665675
Koefficient is a fucking nigger

im indifferent to him but know hes a wow or lol eceleb and gave middle finger to the woke devs and instead he was trying to play ff14 last year or so

i think he just has to do this for whatever reason because the whole western entertainment industry just really fucking sucks and nothing is interesting there. not surprising at all that japanese stuff is getting attention in the western video game industry again. manga is exactly like that.

You're retarded if you think asmongold isn't one of the biggest creators in streaming and youtube.

>>57664220
I mean KSON said the same as for why she got into vtubing.

The video isn't really "why people like vtubers" it's more "why people do vtubing"

I don't get why people are questioning Asmon's character.
Him being fake or whatever is irrelevant to the impact of his youtube videos.
In the last 2 weeks we have:
+800k views for Holocure
+500k views for Holocure
+400k views for Holocure
300k views for Suisei's story
160k views for OP's video

Him validating Hololive for free on a weekly basis is good business for Holo and that's all I care about.
>>57680938 is right

My thought is he should put a shotgun in his mouth and pull the trigger then join his mom in hell

>>57669654
>The collective West (USA specifically) doesn't seem to understand that at all. That's why Netflix and Hollywood keeps trying to leech off of anime by remaking it into live action

Nah that's the old fucks running the companies who view animated as being "For Children" or a lesser form of entertainment than Live Action using REAL ACTORS! It's why Western VAs get shit on all the time and often just having studios throwing money at BIG NAME REAL LIFE ACTOR who does a shit job at VA work because they can't rely on their looks to carry the film.

Thanks for reminding me why I fucking hate this site and the schizo retards that plague it

>>57681978
You shouldnt say such cruel things.

>>57680198
She's still doing great! She got partner a few weeks ago, still holds hundreds of viewers, recently got a new PC from donations and is working towards her own original L2D model

>>57664220
Didn't this guy use to shit on vtubers? I know he did on anime's and stuff. I don't know when but once a cat girl came to his focus he changed his tune a bit and his fetish for them came out.

>>57682045
damn nigga u come to the catalog to read garbage not insight into your hobby on vt

>>57664327
That was a great comment because it's true and full of wisdom.

>>57682110
His opinion is what his audience wants to hear not unlike the favored vtubers of vt.

I don't know if I agree completely with his opinion but the last 30 seconds that video is fucking gold

>>57664366
all yours bud

>>57664242
A has been who now lives on twitch.

>>57674396
>>57680435
I feel fucking vindicated.Twitch's transition from gaming to general streaming was a mistake. It allowed these lazy "reactors" and their enablers to think they matter.
They're living embodiment reddit posts.For these people it's not about staking a claim or saying something of value. It's about shouting into the echo chamber so you can hear your own voice

>>57671650
I feel the same anon. I don't really understand the hype around little gem but I completely understand the appeal of the dogs.

>>57664220
stop posting this ugly fuck

>>57675507
you can say NIGGER here
pathetic fucking nigger
go back

>>57664220
I think I'm sick of having to "do not recommend" this reddit looking twat every week on YT. Doesn't he play games on Twitch? Why is he making react content on vtubers now?

>>57684876
all the twitch people do react shit

>>57670572
also corpos actually do stuff for their creators instead of being a money sink for sexual harassment

>>57681236
Just the same type of drone that the Trash Taste guys bring along. There is nothing to gain from there.

>>57684846
seethe holofag lmaoo

He's right

>>57664285
>leeching
>literally btfo both Niji and Holo on numbers
??????

>>57665367
He turned into huge weebslut after tower of fantasy, I remember him being weirded out at first, but then still playing it

>>57664220
>his chat
>the majority of people still think vtubers are secretly male

>>57664448
not to mention to make it as a vtuber you have to actually be somewhat interesting 3d thots just need tits and a half decent face and/or good makeup 2grwhgskills.

>>57666796
Anon, you can go on /a/ and stalk shonen threads for few weeks,you ll see quite a few cute sluts there who are absolutely mental. I'm not saying sisters are like that, but hot mentally ill nerd women do exist 100%, even here.

to be fair everyone was like him until they were dragged into the rabbit hole

>>57690535
There are no f*males on my /dbs/ hall

>>57670385
Voice is hugely important for women, that's why nearly every female vtuber develops a specific character voice, and the ones that don't tend to sound like amateurs

>>57671650
Yeah man, I don't know how someone who has zoomer jokes (14-25yo) has more appeal than someone with niche Japanese joke from 1893 BC in en setting. I love fuwamoco, but use your head for once.

vtubers are magical since hags can be popular and treated like a princess

>>57672819
miss my haachama

>>57673941
Oddly I think Vedal might be the best example of a male vtuber "working". The cute little turtle model changed the whole dynamic of his channel and let him be a sort of co-star personality that could even be used as shipping bait for clicks.

>>57664220
That you should go back to r*ddit for posting a youtube e-celeb and never come back

>>57690100
That's not a good sign either since the top male streamers (asmon, xqc, kai) all have terrible personalities

>>57664220
>Assmongoloid
>in 2023

>>57665132
> they're both cuter, funnier,
especially bijou

I don't think he said a single incorrect thing.
Imagine the decrease in workload when instead of keeping your appearance up, makeup, hair etc compared to just being a vtuber being cute whilst sitting in your pyjamas no cosmetics probably unwashed for a week straight (imagine the smell)

>>57669607
I love Jerma!
I also heard he is going to retire...

>>57664220
>Let's say you are a Valorant streamer. How do you think it makes the girls feel that the most clipped moments are whenever they walk away from the fucking camera?
>I think that's why it's so appealing, especially to girls, is because you can be treated like a person, ironically, whenever you pretend like you're not.
Most vtubers do nothing but coomerbait or gachikoibait, so this is pure nonsense.
The rest of what he said is pretty reasonable.

>>57669287
Most successful vtubers are attractive too. Pretty people have an easier time developing social skills which makes them better streamers.

>>57664327
Why no both?

>>57691817
>Kizuna
>in 2023

>>57674451
Architect detected

>>57693648
?

>>57692024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3NBQqGQh6c
This. Even one of the Mythic whores has said so.

>>57692024
>Pretty people have an easier time developing social skills
True, but which social skills they develop may vary heavily. For example, most people have met an actual IRL fat ugly bastard who becomes funny, as in genuinely fucking hilarious, because there's a 0% chance he would ever score otherwise. Generally speaking, hot women are able to handle generic social situations with ease, but are completely devoid of all forms of comedic potential. Or for that matter, most forms of non-sexual entertainment potential. Conversely, the ugly bastard, even with a sense of humor, is typically mediocre at best with most social situations.

>>57692024
>>57694417
ehh id say above average
10/10 people would be busy using their advantage in the real world

>>57664220
I don't care what this grifting bald retard says

>>57683188
Yeah it’s just that, a feel-good echo chamber for these people. Nothing of entertainment value is created, just what people want to hear is repeated louder so everyone cheers

>>57692024
this is untrue, it just looks like that because attractive Vtubers want to show off and thats why attractive Vtubers are less careful or just plain out "accidentally" reveal themselves.
there is also that once you have the money plastic surgery is normal specially in asian countries.

Twitch was a better platform when they would ban you if you didn't have gameplay on the screen for more than 30 minutes.

people arguing over twitch vtuber whores

thats why im sticking to hololive

>>57692024
>>57694417
Isn't this just confirmation bias since the attractive ones are more likely to be comfortable posting their irl pics?

>>57697529
Of course, but that Lily girl has a 2 digit IQ so she doesn't realize that

>>57697529
No, because it remains the case even at corpos, where it's explicitly forbidden to confirm who you are, even when the talent didn't have a significant past life, and was doxxed by another means.

>>57665823
Okay but asmond looks like an actual mongoloid and he's successful, can you think of a female streamer who looks like a 2/10 like him and still makes it big?

>>57666658
>There are these ridiculously hot women who are absolute fucking losers.
>They're complete fucking psychotic losers.
I feel like this somehow being mean to Noel

>>57670809

>>57694417
counterpoint selen

>>57698928
If there was a way for probability percentages to be negative then that would apply to the chance of Asmongold knowing Noel

>>57664448
He understands. People just want to watch cute girls. Whether it be vtubers or flesh streamers.

>>57670809
That's what happens when you have a decent following and stream pretty much everyday, sometimes twice a day. Those are just hours watched.

>>57698985
why isnt kaela #1?

>>57664220
whatever he's going to bitch about has already been for years so he has nothing valuable to say.

>>57699460
ID is a very ugly language and shes more of a grind type person playing the game game for 20 hours grinding, well Koyori plays a bunch of different games everyday of different things like her new shows. It helps breaking it up some probably.

>>57669488
Why would i ever chase after some ugly ass beta vampire when cute bishounen vampires are available???

>>57664242
>>57664266
>>57664285
>>57664355
>>57664443
>>57664410
this is just top 10 post.. ya'll hate on everything.
asmongold has more vtubers in his org that vshojo, PC, kawaii, and idol so this guy is relevant in this community.

>>57664242

this dude was legitimately the #1 streamer during Depp VS. Heard defamation trial.

This thread that's barely related to vtubing at all stays up for 24 hours but if I make a thread saying Mori is shit it gets canned in five minutes with a three day ban

>>57706567
>>57706946
Doesn't the guy just react to other videos and do nothing else? Is this the ultimate form of leaching off others?

>>57664242
This guy gets more viewers playing on his alt account than most of Hololive kek

>>57674451
>>57694311
NTA but that artist (I think) is known for doing tons and tons of BBW "artwork"

>>57664220
This dude is an actual mongoloid that has been doing just react content for years, WoW is not a thing anymore, this fucking schizo should retire before he make another "incident"
Also, why is this faggot here ? This is /vt/

>>57667561
Gura is that fillian whore. You holofaggots are really underage seanigggers cum eating cuckolds.

>>57690805
Neck yourself. Please. You retarded memes are shit for underage and braindead spic niggerfaggots normalfaggots. Cucks so y boys.

>>57665132
why is kuzuha bigger than almost every other female vtuber then?

>>57697828
Polka is doing pretty well

>>57711142
Globally?

>>57690443
>to make it as a vtuber you have to actually be somewhat interesting
or just pander to the viewers who came to coom to your model

>>57670809
Because "hours watched" is a bullshit metric that's designed to give participation trophies to mid level chuubas.
It's a metric that implies that someone streaming 24 hours to 1k people is above someone that streamed 1 hour to an audience of 23k.

>>57665132
you wrote all this just to out yourself as a 2020er

>>57691632
Good personality doesn't matter, it's about entertaining personality.

>>57664242
Pekora watches him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBzEOksScqY

>>57681236
Exactly, Asmongold has been promoting Hololive more than anyone here. Kind of surprising with many ex-vshojo not part of Mythic.
It's not just him, it's his fans. They were the ones consistently pushing him to play Holocure. They recommended that he react to the Suisei story. Let's face it. His fans are no longer anti-weeb, but has a lot of Hololive fans. Read the comments.

>>57667153
So /vt/?

>>57664220
how fucking dead is this guy's content that he's grifting vtubers now of all things. Never in my wildest dreams would the fall of WoW enable this mouthbreather to be on my /vt/

>>57720922
He'll be gone soon to shill the amazon mmo

>>57664220
Buy a fucking ad you bald headed, rotten toothed, mother exploding homeless millionaire bum

>>57664220
Asmongold has been promoting Hololive a lot lately.
Anons asked how to get the Western audience to accept vtubers more. This is how.
Playing Holocure was no surprise. Reacting to the Suisei story was unexpected.
It's not just him, it's his fans. Many are Hololive fans and he's converting more.

>>57720922
he's currently fighting against the inner weeb he didnt know he had

>>57664327
facts

He is dating silvervale for those of you who don't know

>>57716331
Kinda true. I think the amount of streaming needed to get these numbers is impressive in it's own right and probably translates to decent earnings, but it doesn't work as a measure of overall influence

>>57723991
Why do all the upper level Twitch streamers only date within that circle?

>>57664220
"Normal" female streamers are largely loose whores with vapid opinions. You couldn't pay me to watch one.
Vtubers are held by their parent companies to a strict set of behavioral standards which make them more enjoyable to watch.
"They act like children!" is a cope. All women act like children, Vtubers just put on a cutesy voice while doing it and have the training to at least pretend to be pure.

>>57724511
what about indie chuubas

>>57664285
Good job detective

>>57699647
is ID the problem?
tell me it is because it would explain why ollie does so poorly i feel bad for her..

>>57725802
ID is a massive fucking debuff anon to teh point all of the ID members mostly just speak non ID.

Why has this shitty offtopic flesh streamer had a thread for 24 hours

>>57664220
Gay and fake

>>57725878
their only option to survive is using other language?

>>57723991
you cant prove that

>>57724511
>pretend to be pure.

>>57726725
matsuri is pure, and you cant prove to me otherwise

>>57724161
All women do, it's just them following their natural programming

>>57727167
what do you mean

>>57727273
NTA
i guess he means that women always date men that are at least at their level or higher.
and there is not many persons of young age that could have higher income than a streamer only other streamers

>>57727990
I dont understand why

>>57664220
>Thoughts…?
none

>>57728179
is part of evolution the drive for evolution is in accepting the strong males and reject the weak ones.
thats also why males are outliers having way more extremely smart individuals but also way more retarded individuals, while women are mostly average.
thats why like he said women were programmed to search for the best most successful mates.

>>57728563
yeah I didnt really care I just wanted the thread to reach bump limit

>>57728563
Don't forget that women can't date 10s without being a 10 themselves, so the end result is that they'll always date someone on the same level as them. Hence streamer's only date streamer's and so on.

>>57728656
oh, anyway is good to explain things it helps to organize thoughts.
but somehow i feel a little down now

>>57728826
This thread is offtopic so I really dont care man