/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>57639658
They just blocked me because i xeeted about Geega being Ironmouse pussy sucker lol

>>57639658
It's so tiresome, every time Vshojo gets a chance to try something new they blow it.

>>57639658
>Allegations
It’s just a fact. VShojo is a mean girl’s club. The meanest girls just happened to leave recently.

Vshojo is a mini-clique within the larger Twitch LA Vtuber clique.

yeah, I'm not sure if I care

Why would you hire no names without established audience?
They're just gonna leech away numbers from your existing talents, and no additional merch would be sold.

>>57639658
talent freedom*
*we are only doing nepo hire, get lost

>someone the talents are clearly friends with gets the chance to join and takes it
>somehow this is a bad thing
i think you niggas are autistic

>>57639658
Jerk off ironlungs ego long enough and you practically get put in the fast lane
Their auditons have always been a fake front to deny the allegations theyre just a country club and a retirement home

>>57640067
The entire fucking point of a talent agency is to find new talent
Twitchtubers are in two camps right now: Vshojo, and not Vshojo. There may be all these mini cliques around but at the end of the day that's the state of things.
They could just pull the trigger and debut GENS instead of this individual bullshit, but no, too good for that.

It sets a precedent that the whole platform is one big club, and (you) aren't ever gonna be in it.

>this company is just a clique
>these talents have no chemistry between each other
You niggas are unbearable

>>57639658
sorry you didnt get into the auditions, anon.

NOW SEETHE.

>>57640067
Why does cover hire literal two views then? Because they have talent and a clear passion for the job. Don't need to be an established creator, just experience, talent, and be what they are looking for. Vshojo just wants to hire their friends which isn't a bad thing necessarily but they should've never held auditions if this was all that it would amount to.

>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO you can't hire proven commodities that already have excellent chemistry with your existing talents!
Skill issue dayo

>>57640067
Anon, that's literally what Hololive does to create new stars and expand their audience

>>57640067
Most of hololives recent hires are small indies and failed utaites

>twitchfags and vwhorejosimps itt
and yes i clicked into the thread knowing this

>>57639816
Geega literally blows all big indies and small corpos for clout daily. Read her Twitter replies.

Why would you want to take a chance on a nobody when you have guaranteed success with an existing somebody? VShojo did this exactly once with Froot and look how that's turned out.

>>57640510
Baby gonna cry?
Enjoy Holizontal btw

>>57640377
>>57640088
>>57640067
You guys are fucking retarded, Vshojo is big enough now that debuting a 2 view would make them an instant 4 view especially when announcing them at events such as this.

>>57640325
I'm a dude, not only would I never get in based on that fact unless I was a troon, why the fuck would I wanna work for an agency where I hate most of the Western members? stupid fag

>>57640377
You will only expand your audience by bringing outsider people in and being nice with them, not just your club of friends.
The company needs new flavors, new kinds of talent. Hell, even different groups of friends.

>>57640555
Geega is not a successful anything

>>57640728
Or you could hire someone like, say, Geega, and take an already big named vtuber and make her a bigger name. This shouldn't be a controversial decision, anon. This is business class day one shit.

>>57640294
Can you honestly say in your group of friends, that you don't have favorites? Like you could go hang out with each and every one is them individually without the need for the person that introduced them to you if you didn't meet them first?

>>57640428
>>57640496
>and recently they've all been fucking garbage
See why Vshojo does the opposite?

>>57639658
It's true that they're a clique, but Geega is fucking fantastic, so I don't care in this instance.

>>57640067
It’s an investment; sure, they may not have an audience but you see the potential to grow.

>>57639658
Everyone knew they were a Twitch clique the day Vshojo was announced, mainly to compete with Hololive's explosive popularity in the EN community.

>>57640728
>You guys are fucking retarded, Vshojo is big enough now that debuting a 2 view would make them an instant 4 view especially when announcing them at events such as this.

>>57640826
Or you could fucking kill yourself for starters

Vshojo if they debuted a 2view talent would actually make them a 4 view instantaneously and get just as much exposure, people that watch Vshojo are already watching Geega so they are not going to grow that much just from being in Vshojo.

>>57639658
Ogey.

>>57640844
Who is garbage?

>>57640088
No one cares about them being a clique, it's that they pretended they weren't when every hire has been either people that were already friends with them or grabbing a recently graduated/terminated big name.

>>57640956
>waaaaaaaaahhhhhh waah waah waaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh
No one cares, fucktwat. VShojo knows what's up.

>building hype around someone who people who watch ironshit and others already watch
Wow they gained like... 10 new fans with this hire

>>57641027
This

>>57640067
that's the opposite of what happens, hiring someone that already hit their plateau means there's very little opportunity for her to grow especially when she was already an established member of the vshojo clique

there's no new audience for her to appeal to

>>57640826
>big named
I mean... compared to some sure, but Geega has been a 3-4 view until fairly recently when she's become a full on 4 view. Comparatively speaking, she is the least popular member VShojo has added since the beginning (Froot was a literal nobody and Hime was a non Twitch streamer). Haruka and Vei were both bigger than she is now.

>>57640956
If I offered you $25K or a powerball ticket, you'd take the ticket because you're a drooling fucking retard.

I can't really blame them for the poaching they do, it gets them proven entertainers with a sizeable following literally for FREE, they would be stupid not to. And if all these people jump on the chance then there contract is probably just genuinely good for vtubers.
I will say it is cringe that it's the ONLY thing they do, especially considering that they baited with auditions once and then completely axed the process once they realized poaching is easier. It's kinda grift-ish. For that reason I enjoy the fact that they are getting competition from Mythic now, who are the same "literally just a glorified bumper sticker" type of corp, except they're even bigger and more soulless than even Vshojo.

Another thing is just how much Kikeson facilitates the poaching process, you have to wonder how many of them would join Vshojo if it wasn't for the usual "haha yeah we talked :^)" shit coming from kikeson any% speedrun as soon as someone quits/retires their old vtuber self.

they actually went for LEECHGA? lmao i'll never understand vshojo's business decisions, it's like they're bribed to be incompetent.

>>57641058
>No one cares, fucktwat. Vshojo knows what's up.

Clearly not public interest given Geega was already super close with the Vshojo girls meaning their audiences already overlap.

>>57641197
Who gives a shit about public interest? They want to sell shirts.

>>57641027
You fags literally do not care about this so stop pretending you do.

>>57641145
and I'm sure if I presented my cock you'd lick that shit up

What's the point in saying this. The whole point this is fucking retarded is because they held auditions when they're clearly only hiring friends.

>>57641276
>Gaslighting in a Vshojo thread

>>57641180
Anyways how's Cover been lately? Enjoying those forced male collabs?

>>57640844
>they've all been garbage
Such as?

>>57641309
>Vshojo thread
This is a seethe thread, anon, otherwise known as a bait thread. None of you are genuine.

>>57640728
>waaaa waaaaa waaaaaa

Vshojo just echos how twitch streamers operate. Its always been a fancy exclusive circlejerk and youre not in it without having a few different peoples cum in your throat

>>57641311
>how's Cover been lately?
Cover on its worst day would still be roses compared to ANYCOLOR.

>>57640377
is this henya's attempt at the giorno pose

>>57641432
I watch vtubers to get away from this shit and it seems like that's all of Twitch now, just nepotism and glazing

>>57641257
You retards are missing the point entirely. the issue isn't what they're doing, the issue is they pretended it was gonna be audition based when in reality all they have done is hire close friends. It's like you fuckers lack reading comprehension or something, oh right Vshitshow fan.

>/vt/ numbermonkey-brained schizophrenia
Vs
>dude let's hire someone we all like lol

>>57639658

It gets easier when you realize the western consumer bases collective conscious doesn’t care about or recognize the difference between a talent agency or a brand so brands like vshojo can just sell themselves as both while actually only being one. where do you think the “talent first” pitch actually comes from? all dramasisters are brand loyalists first so to appeal to that crowd you only need the trust fundies with capital, their actual talent be damned
i for one am happy people can enjoy watching 4 hours of reacting to tik toks

>>57641410
Who the fuck is baiting? This is a genuine thread/

>>57639658
shut up and watch holizontal

>>57641069
Geega is at 75K followers which isn't just the smallest a new debut has ever been, but she's smaller than anyone from the launch roster at that time (save Froot and Hime)

>>57640843
Yes? Why the fuck would you be friends with someone if you couldn't hang out with them, that sounds insufferable. Do you know what a fucking friend is?

>>57641627
I will, I'm not a parasocial cuck like most of y'all and I actually watch and support all kinds of vtubers :^)

>>57641638
75K is still large for a Vtuber, especially on Twitch.

>>57641804
OK, and? Do you think everyone other companies hire are literal who 1views?

>>57641867
They've hired 2 views before. Pomu as Mint got at most a few hundred views a stream.
Gura was barely a streamer before Hololive and was basically a glorified shitposter.

like bruh, yes agencies including Anycolor hire 2 and 3 views, I wouldn't count out 1 views either.

>>57641867
Anon, Vshojo are the only corpo who does things this way.

>2 years
>still seething
kek

>>57642017
And the examples you give are from years ago when vtubing was a lot smaller

>not beating allegation
For it to be allegation they have to pretend otherwise. VShojo had long gave up and took the L for that botched audition. Now they're exclusively nepohiring. And from business perspective, is there anything wrong with that?
Their existence now is to make merch and seek sponsorships which allowed big indies to focus on streams.

>>57642190
Those were examples from when Vtubing was at it's peak you fucking cockwomble.

For a more recent example Shu had at max 3.7k subs on all platforms and streamed to a few hundred at best.

>>57642198
If they're nepohiring then they should be transparent about it to. To the publics knowledge the auditions are ongoing, it wasn't that long ago talents were getting doxxed for applying to them cus they had shit cyber security and refused to warn people about the potential threat.

>>57641311
we just fired two male chubbas
i say we are doing pretty fucking good

>>57643479
it was literally your average vtuber's entire lifetime ago

>>57643479
Nigga I'm a nux subscriber, I know the incident more than anyone else, Nyan and Froot was fucking cunts about it for sending hate brigade, and I still hate Froot for multitude of reason.
"My friends are joining us" x3, tell me this is NOT nepohiring, I would call bullshit and lying bitch.
Notice they never, ever talked about audition since the incident?

OP, you missed your chance to say this when they debuted Haruka, it's too late now.
Maybe i'm blind, but i don't see any audition announcements on twitter or even on their site anywhere, they literally gave up on that. Their last audition call was in 2021.

>>57643098
>when Vtubing was at it's peak

>daily seethe about vshojo thread

>>57640067
Cover's talent policy is hire 1 famous person and 1 literal who for every gen they debut.

>>57639658
It's always been a clique, it's not some secret
Vshojo should honestly be blacklisted from the industry though for constant poaching

>>57639658
Ok and?

>>57640496
the literals
>No one cared who I was until I put on the mask(brand)

>>57639658
Are they even vtubers? I thought they were mostly camwhore fleshstreamers.

>>57643479
>t wasn't that long ago talents were getting doxxed
no no, it was already THAT long ago
the Nux drama will be 2 years old in a couple months

>>57644204
>constant
>exactly one time

>>57644204
>poaching is bad
Say no one in entertainment industry
Only losers would say that

>>57639658
If your being uncharitable you can spin it this way. If you want to be charitable you can also say that being friends with existing talents means they will work better in collabs and they are already proven to be successful and not a brand risk. I wish they would do a mixture of picking up good underappreciated indie talent and established friends.

>>57644874
>>57645152
It's good when Hololive does it

>>57643479
True, if they arent going to hire people from the auditions at all they shouldnt waste peoples time with holding them.

What choice do they really have? They have no talent scouting nor talent development, so they have to go for known quantity.

>>57640844
If your talking about the new EN wave they've been great and their risks have paid off.

>>57645427
That what the auditions are supposed to be for, but so far everyone who has been hired is someone who they probably didnt even need to audition because they are already so established.

>>57639658
Legit question, why do they need to?

geega brings absolute nothing of value to the company.
most of her viwers were leeched from zen
she is not a idol, she isnt going to do concerts or even original songs. fuck, i dont like henya, but AT LEAST she had somme kind of goal to do concerts and other shit
everyone already knows her, she isnt bringing ANYTHING NEW
absolutely nothing will change. the only thing different is that now she is part of the mean girls club and have a sticker on her name saying "vshojo"

i honestly thinks its amazing how INCAPABLE this company is to find actual talents. holy shit

>>57645547
Haruka came from the auditions.
She's probably the only one considering that was almost a year ago.

The auditions are over.

>>57645838
Geega is a good streamer.

>>57645838
>geega brings absolute nothing of value to the company.
Geega merch said otherwise lel
I don't know if you're VShojo or Geega anti, but that's objectively wrong.
This is literally how VShojo works now.

>>57645838
>have a sticker on her name
That's Hololive's entire business model.

We mock them for being nepo whores and shit, but Vshojo really has fucked up and lost their niche. They were the second best vtuber company *by talent quality* after Hololive. Now they're 4th behind Idol and Phase Connect. All they had to do was do a couple real auditions/generations, and they'd be firmly in 2nd place.

>>57645838
Well, maybe she woke up one day and decided to become one, what's wrong with that? And look at this, some of her friends are in a talent agency that takes care of merch, sponsorships, outfits, lore, 3D and live concerts. Good and easy choice for her that will boost her views and take care of all this stuff.

>>57645838
why are you so angry over a company you don't watch?

>>57646233
The talent quality unironically increased when they left phaseshill

>>57645868
Haruka already was friends with the talent and collabed all the time with them and didnt need an audition. So you can see how the auditions felt disingenuous. Although I don't think its the end of the world, I just wish they would take a risk and hire some underappreciated vtubers too.

>>57646403
>hire some underappreciated vtubers
They just did

>>57646233
>Idol
>Phasecuck

>>57645838
So they dont have to pay for concerts or original songs for her and they make money off merch of her? Seems like a big win for them, and in return Geega will get more sponsorship opportunities.

It's funny how once Vshojo shed its status as a whorehouse and tried to take itself seriously, the cracks immediately began to show. Western vtubing has been solved by Hololive, no one else has managed to find a different way to do things yet.

>>57646516
who? everyone they've hired pulled decent numbers before joining. when I say underappreciated I mean like 3 view or lower.

>>57639658
Don't have any problem with them bringing in Geega but to see Vshojofags denying that it's an exclusive clique ITT is hilarious. Just own up to it, my dudes, it's almost a fact.

>57646684
?????????????????

>>57646403
Ant Hime, I'm sorry you didn't make the cut, but it has been a year and it's time to move on

>>57645838
>All the assblasted replies to this post
What the fuck man
Imagine a new talent comes into a corpo
They literally have no appeal at all
And everyone just blindly accepts it

>>57646684
Whether you like them or not they seem to be pretty successful.

>>57646743
I hate Ant Hime. She's a drama whore leech.

>>57639658
When blue dorito poaches nobuhime it's suddenly acceptable?

>>57646340
im not mad, i dont watch vshojo. im just perplexed of how people still look at this and say "yeah thats fine, thats not an exclusive clique at all"
like, wtf, theres no way you can be THAT stupid

>>57639658
whats the debut viewers count? like henya debut viewres spam thread

>>57646772
>They have no appeal at all
I mean thats your opinion but a lot of people seem to disagree

>>57646912
Capped around 23K and is still at 21K two hours in

>>57646928
She literally doesn't have any plans for being in Vshojo besides coasting on marginally more viewers and having a merch deal.

>>57646902
Who cares if it is?

John vsj? All me

>>57639658
>allegations

Qrd on the new girl? What's her PL I took a nap and missed the debut but her model is pure sexo

>>57647026
>besides coasting on marginally more viewers and having a merch deal.
isn't that the only plan you need?

>>57647026
>I can literally read her mind and know her plans
sure thing anon. and even if this is true how is it a bad thing? Its not like they have limited slots, and it sounds like she wont take up much overhead expenses and print free money off merch.

>>57647219
she doesn't have a past life, that's how Vshojo works

>>57646975
so no spam threat about debut number like henya?

>>57647327
Stop asking rhetorical questions you know the answer to, holy shit

>>57647219
Italian New Yorker who can literally just talk for 6 hours without leaving any dead air
Pick a topic, she probably knows more about it than you
Like roguelikes and retro games
Will do things just because it's funny and doesn't really care what you think

>>57646902
>"thats not an exclusive clique at all"
Say no one with somewhat functioning braincell
Even Ironmouse bootlicker knew it is centered around her

>>57646522
>That feel when Selen will be in Phase Invaders 3.

>>57647591
>She deserves to be in Vshojo more than literally anyone else because... Because she can talk a lot!

>>57647663
Who are you quoting?

>>57647591
>Italian New Yorker
"Hey I'm walkin here"? Sounds like something I'd watch

>>57647578
sorry I asked for someone's opinion. fuck me I guess

>>57647622
Selen's for VSPO EN if anything

>>57647768
She doesn't have an overt accent but it comes out here and there

>>57640619
So it's you assholes drama fagging about that shit. I should have realized it would be peasants even below Nijisanji.

>>57646522
I don't get why people hate phase. Lia and Tenma seem cool from the little I've watched.

>>57647591
>Italian New Yorker
Damn, I thought all the Italians moved out of Jew York already.

>>57648010
Most of them moved to Florida

>>57647622
>>57647876
Yeah, Selen is prime for VSPO EN, if it evers take off. IF.

>>57640510
>twitch bad
Why hate an entire platform of vtubers if your a vtuber fan? Only thing bad about twitch is the moderation team and the ads.

>>57646902
Nobody is actually claiming in good faith that Vshojo isn't Melody's Friend Clique and VshojoJP is Kson's Home For Used Goods. That is just a hard fact, and the only people to ever say otherwise are actively trolling.

>>57647980
No offense to them, but Pippaniggers are /vt/ public enemy for being constant shitter and drama baiting. As presented by BVTM.

seethe

>>57639816
You deserve it for saying xeeted what the fuck man

>>57648188
still smoking on that pack

i know some of you never had any group of friends but cliques are a normal function of human relationships.
you can dislike cliques but to act as if anyone can avoid making one is a fool's delusion and is asking for the impossible.
>>57648163
plus people have also called hololive yagoo's home for broken women, so its not like vshojo is alone on having clique groups, especially ones centered around one person as the leader, just in hololive case its a business sponsored clique instead.

literally never heard of this geega bitch in my life

shit streamer joins shit company, whats the big problem

>>57648895
Cliques are not normal, communities are. You want to exclude others like a petty normalfag, fine, don't then pretend like you love everyone when you obviously only care about a select group.

>>57648188
Bvtm is just one guy you know

>>57648895
>Deflection
>Deflection
>False Equivalence
> ???
Holy.

>>57649427
We aren't talking about EN3 though

>>57642190
Bijou was just barely scraping triple digit viewers before Hololive.

>>57639658
Why are you expecting vshojo to have any degree of integrity? They're known as the slimy garbage dump of vtubers for a reason.

>>57643479
hey is this you?

>>57650115
That's just the general perception of vshojo these days.

>>57650091
I saw this video and it gave me really bad vibes. Talking about how male vtubers are discriminated against while Vshojo still doesn't have a single dude (technically) and just blatantly saying that all of the big-name indies are in a Discord server signal boosting one another. Twitch is a massive fucking circlejerk.

>>57650091
There is no reason, actually
It's just Holofag schizos who've never watched VShojo, only know them from the catalog, and hate them simply because they are not Hololive

>>57640052
Froot is still there though.

>>57650115
>To the publics knowledge the auditions are ongoing
????????????????

>>57650183
>general shitposters' perception
ftfy, if you're too much of a retard to be busy spouting outdated info instead of paying attention

>>57650115
That's such a generic statement

>>57650187
It's bullshit, Geega doesn't interact with any male vtubers that aren't already popular.

>>57650315
How is it outdated?

>>57650201

>>57649588
humans can actively maintain on average around 150 relationships, only around 10 of those being close, usually made up of family and 1-3 really close relationships.
you know whats the number of people in a clique usually are? 3-10
communities are the remaining amount of people who you maintain relationships with.
youre a fool if you think your not in a clique of your own and i dont see you denouncing your friend group for it.
vshojo is a company made by a clique to support the clique in their endeavors as vtubers, why do you think theyre so willing to let members leave, its a means to an end business for the talents.

>>57643479
I would understand the issue if they still shilled thhe auditions, but after the doxxing incidents happened, the auditions idea was abandoned. I will admit, that maybe they should publicly make a tweet saying that the auditions closed long ago, but at this point, after almost two years of nothing being said about them, the implication is that they are closed and nothing is coming out of them.

>hire my shitty 2vie-
No.

>>57650091
She never even said any of the words that are in that image anon. Are people really that threatened by Vshojo that they have to make random shit up?
https://youtu.be/JKOCbdpCaAs?t=686

>>57650549
>Friend group
Look at where you fucking are, retard.

>>57650408
Probably because the audition submission deadline was Sept 30th 2021
They've been closed for a long long time

>>57650714
No one wants their chuuba to join Vshojo, that's a fate worse than graduation.

>>57650651
>maybe they should publicly make a tweet saying that the auditions closed long ago
It literally closed a month after it opened

>>57639658
Did not they just had that one audition 2 years and after the Nux debacle just stopped doing them? Did they ever have another?

>>57650884
Then why are you crying about someone joining Vshojo?

>>57651050
Nobody is, are you just going to "u mad" loop now?

>>57651127
You are incredibly angry. This is a fact.

>>57650884
I wouldn't mind if my indie did. She'd still be who she is now and I like who she is now. If she joined another major company her name, her channel and her model (which is already better quality than most corpo models) would be dead.

>>57650408
It was two fucking years ago anon. No one expects them to still pull from those auditions unless they're completely braindead.
>talents were getting doxxed for applying to them
It was one idiot who fell for a phishing scam email and Nuxx who decided to make content out of it.

>>57651127
henyafag man, thats the only thing they know how to do

Vshojo is for 15 year olds whose favorite subreddit is livestreamfail and unironically watch Forsen and Asmongoloid

>>57651348
That's the one thing I can give Vshojo credit for. There's so many amazing indie models that have gone completely to waste over the years.

>>57651600
I'm almost 30 and I've never visited or watched any of these

>>57651600
You watch Forsen and Asmongold ironically?

>>57650765
>threatened by Vshojo
lol
lmao

>>57651625
Ironmouse has had 15 model changes or some shit over the years. Say goodbye to your "good" indie model once you get resources and turned into a marketing whore to sell tshirts for Gunrun and Mowtendoo

>>57651919
you do understand her models are the equivalent of her cloths since she cant really spend much money of cloths

>>57640619
>>57641627
>>57641311
Actual real life cucks trying to mock Holobronies because of Holizontal... Jesas. Vcucks don't get to call ANYONE else a cuck.

>>57651919
You post shit like this and you expect me to believe you aren't so angry that your capillaries are exploding as we speak.

>>57651851
KEK

So who was the new person? What was her previous persona?

>>57652090
We don’t care about that shit, it’s a glass houses sort of thing for us

>>57652038
anon, this cope is getting outdated by now
you gotta find a new one

>>57652090
Awwwww must have hit a nerve. You're scared, I've seen it.

>>57652346
everythings a cope to you if you want to see it as a cope, doesnt change reality.

>>57651919
>Mouse does thing
>that means everyone in VShojo does thing
Retard

>>57651851
Independent vtubers are doing way better than I thought.

>>57640730
Didn't realize iron mouse fans and Pikamee fans had such overlap.

>>57651851
>>57652188
you niggers are still acting as such though

>>57652484
Both watch a cripple that only does react shit

>>57652624
No, no one's acting like that.

>>57652701
Not angry btw
Extremely not angry

>>57652418
ironlungfags have been using the same excuse since forever.
just accept that your streamer is either saying this cause she doenst have any other excuse, or she is just retard enough to not know what to do with her money

>>57639658
Wait... Why does this matter at all? Vshojo isn't even a company. It's essentially Hololive's Gamer-gen where if you're friends, you get in. What's wrong with that? I'd rather that be the case than what hololive usually does where they have 5 complete strangers debut together and talk about how they're all soulmates that are TOTALLY inseparable and REALLY love each other. Then 3 years pass and they're like "yeah... I don't know a single thing about anyone in this company... I've always felt so alone..."

>>57652907
>"yeah... I don't know a single thing about anyone in this company... I've always felt so alone..."
Sounds like what Silvervale said after she left Vshojo

>>57650008
>Rent free
Also, one of them already in the top 10 most watched female streamers

>>57652471
Yes they do

>>57652705
then what's all this screeching about 'nepo hire' from retards who didn't even realize the audition shit hasn't been a thing for almost two years now?

>>57650091
But they were making fun of people who do that in the image you posted?

ITT: seething 2 views who actually sent auditions to Vshojo who were hoping that they would be given a chance.

RORU you knew how it was, you see how it is, just suck up to the existing members if you want to join

>>57651851
Now compare number of talents

VShojo's 9 (0.37% per talent) to
Nijisanji's 180 (0.12%)
Hololive's 74 (0.36%)
VSPO's 18 (0.23%)

This isn't entirely accurate to the image because I'm not autistic enough to run back the debuts/graduations from Nijisanji to May numbers

>>57651851
HAHAHA VSHOJO IS SUCH A JOKE

>>57653079
What about it? It's true.

>>57652843
even without that excuse, she makes bank so she can do as she pleases.
if that to have 200 different models then thats her prerogative

>>57653073
They don't. Mouse is the only one in the entire vtubing industry to changes models that frequently.

Nobody else in VShojo even comes close. In fact, the people who change most often besides Mouse are independents.

>>57653128
Vshojo roster has 10 people

>>57653191
ok, so she is a retard with no sense of brand. got it

>>57653158
not saying it's false retard, I'm asking why do you care?

>>57653270
The chart is from May, if you would read the rest of the post

>>57650115
Somehow you come off as the biggest pathetic loser, like who the fuck screenshots something like that? Or who even remembers word for word what some anti said just to screenshot it afterwards, whichever the case is.
The ultimate everlasting, rancorous seethe.

>>57639658
You never made an argument as too why a clique in of itself is bad. Just like weirdos who argue about tradition or change being inherently bad or harmful, or a group of people having a collective self-interest is evil. It's all so tiresome.

>>57653152
>replying to yourself when it's already been proven they have far more views per capita
Hololive chapter 7 2026, book it

>>57653270
not when this image was made, she literally just joined today

>>57653345
Why do you care why I care? This is an anonymous image board, personal reasons for why we talk about shit mean nothing.

>>57653392
hi Bread Brain, lmao

>>57653128
180 is right for nijisanji. 149 nijisanji and 31 nijien

>>57651851
This fact humble vshitjo fags

>>57653128
Nigga, it's your own fault lol. You faggots had a 11 million dolars investment and did absolutely nothing with it.

>>57653546
so are you admitting you're just some mindless shitposter then?

>>57653674
Sure, can you go back on topic now?

>>57640843
Are you seriously asking /vt/ about friends?

>Imagine seething this hard over another corpo's success and then pretending you don't care
kek

>>57653647
hey, they opened a jp branch that has a single active person in it that does mainly english stuff

>>57653899
>success
See: >>57651851

>>57640067
>Why would you hire no names without established audience? They're just gonna leech away numbers from your existing talents
I don’t watch VShojo, but you’re exactly right here. It’s about making money and getting experienced people that can sustain numbers over time. Otherwise, they could drop over time by testing out crappy people that happen to be new while they also wouldn’t be able to kick later.

>>57653899
What success?

>>57653960
>top 4 while having a fraction of the others' members
>not success
??

>>57654085
If they had more members it wouldn't go up much.

>>57654020
>>57653960
>if i don't like it it's not success

>>57653960
>BUT MUH CHART
Already debunked and humiliated multiple times over.

>>57653960
>>57654020
nice seethe

>>57654275
I'm sure it was, in your head.

>>57654155
>if they add more people their share of watch hours won't go up
Retard

If they pulled Shylily, for example, they'd probably shoot up a whole percentage point if not more.

>>57640064
a nazuna fan lmao, funny how she streams more in her other vtuber perosna, she doesnt even care about vshoujo anymore and is clear shes gonna moveon at some point when her contract is over

>>57640844
Oh really? List which one(s) are garbage, so that everybody can see your literal SHIT taste

>>57654322
And every sane individual's.
Vshojo won. You lost.

>>57652371
>Acts retarded
>Gets called out
>"Lol triggered much"
Many such cases.

>being one of the top 4 corpo is a failure
How fucking retarded do you have to be to think vshojo isn't successful? Just say you don't like vshojo stop coping, they are not failing

>>57654530
They really have nothing else, huh?

>>57654467
>"vshojo"
>post a picture of connor and ironlung
kek the irony

>>57654530
>get incredibly angry
>someone points it out
>get even angrier
Your entire life. Enjoy dying of a rage induced aneurysm by 40.

>>57654697
>You mad bro meme
This can't get any worse, can it? Well this is a vcuck after all. Let's see:

>>57654221
Can you show us this success? Lets see Froots and Himes achievements over the years

>>57654697
You run out of images already? You must be new here to have such a small folder.

>>57650187
Nice try holobronie

>>57641311
Dude, your flagship bitch is literally Conor's cocksleeve.

>>57639658
They are small group of friends company that rip off hololive.

>>57654677
>vshojo thread
>came to own the whore lovers
>gets made fun of
>leave seething and coping
many such cases
kek

They should change their name to CliqueShojo

>Numberfag shitposter can't even do math
Not surprised. Not to defend VShojo, but to have 3.7% share with 9 members were formidable. I'm a simp of local VTuber company 1/0 their viewership with similar number of members.

>>57654968
awwww, did you think of that all by yourself?...retard

>>57654962
what the fuck are you even talking about

>>57654798
>stop pointing out that I'm mad!
No.

>>57655087
Truth hurts huh?

>>57654829
0, none, nothing

>>57655212
Why would I care about nepo hires? I think it's great...I always thought the nepo bait thing is super weak, none of care about that and think it's a good thing

>>57654540
Im sorry anon, im sure you like this "devil may cry 5" or whatever, but if your game isnt selling call of duty numbers its a shit game. Thats the rules.

>he's literally red in the face, clenching his teeth as he furiously F5s this thread, assuring everyone that he's not mad

>>57641517
Okay fair enough, but how big of a deal is this really? I'm not even a vshojo fan since Henya is the only person I watch from that group, and well that's because she was Pikamee.
Nyanner's basically made a mission out of distancing herself from her old edgy 4chan days, and while that's somewhat understandable it feels very grifty like she sold out. Most people just change or slowly alter their content over time, but Nyanner's had to make sure everyone knew about her new transformation. It feels lame and spineless, like apologizing to a bunch of faceless Leftoid F@gg0ts on Twitter when literally nothing good comes from it.
And she has a BF too lol, so there's that. Don't wanna feel like a 3rd wheel. :p

>>57641240
that's a man

>>57639658
I don't think there's any problem with that
I never think of vshojo as a company, they barely do events, they are more like a group of friends, so small that it's easy to forget about them.

>>57655437
Yeah that's literally you, lol. You're seetheposting by yourself vs several anons.

>>57653128
>>57654275
You are either retarded or disengenuous. They have more per capita because they have 3 chuubas pulling the avg of the group up and since they don't have a lot of talents it's fucking obvious that their numbers per capita will be better. If you add Xqc with 10 others 1view streamers, the viewership per capita of the group is going to be a 5view.

>>57644162
There was nobody famous in holoX

>>57655747
but yet here you are posting, nice cope retard

>>57655131
>You mad bro? Lelol xD Trollface

>>57639658
ok but does anyone actually care?

>>57655771
Ksonbros what the fuck happened to us?

Wtf are you niggas mad about?

>>57655771
And I per capita'd everyone else too so what's your point

Do you think the likes of Pekora and Kuzuha aren't picking up the slack for lower-performing members?

>>57639658
>They are not beating the clique allegations
There's no reason to. Cliques are not inherently bad.

>>57655880
>nice post retard
you do apparently

>>57655771
>3 people are blowing hololive the fuck out
I'm... owned?

>>57648188
Only nijiniggers hate Pippa
She has always been a loyal ally to holochads

>>57655771
I'm not a twitch tranny, which one is the CCV? The yellow number?

geega more like geega leech gottem

>>57655660
It's true, nobody really cares about vshojo as a whole, most people only watch one member and that's it, people don't watch them for their collabs or events(there aren't many to be fair).

>>57655917
If it's not the blue dorito
rage must ensue, holoshills hate to see anybody be successful

Nothing wrong with Geega but it's the most boring possible pickup. I don't care about catalognigger complaints about nepotism but it's just not interesting if they just hire their orbiters rather than taking risks and making moves.

>>57655970
>having no friends is better
kek

>>57656173
No one mentioned Hololive until the insecure vcuck called the Boogeyman out so all this shitshow ensued.

>>57656173
>>57654829

>>57655958
Your argument is entirely based on some bizarre idea that having lower performing members somehow devalues the higher performing ones.

>>57656290
kek please don't even holoshill
we've both played this game long enough to know what's up

>>57655867
No reason to feel threatened by the truth fagg. The only reason I remembered them it's becaue schizos keep spamming threads cu of the "new" debut

>>57656328
Froot's first song ever has 1M views

Both of them just had a concert performance

>>57656468
your first cope was better, your second post is just sad seethe

>>57647591
are vshojo fans really this gay holy fuck who types like this

>>57656613
>sad seethe
Projecting

>>57656672
Types like what?

>>57656677
>No reason to feel threatened by the truth fagg. The only reason I remembered them it's becaue schizos keep spamming threads cu of the "new" debut
this is pure seethe
retard

I have absolutely no idea who any of the new Vshoujo hires are.

>>57648127
You forgot the primary issue with twitch, no vods and half these bitches don't make vod channels.

>>57656613
your first cope was better, your second post is just sad seethe

>>57656672
They are retarded please understand

>>57656744
Kek keep replying is obvious who's seething for something so small if not then why do you keep replying.

Waiting

>>57655958
If you remove pekora and Ironmouse you will see that one pull the avg of the group more than the other, for obvious fucking reasons. Hololive have a larger viewership pool, so each individual talent have a smaller impact in the group avg. TLDR the smaller your pool of viewers, the bigger the impact of outliners and that's why the per capita will pretty much always favor small groups.

>>57656744
Why didn't you support your golden goose, vcuck? Now look at this: >>57655771
At the bottom of the barrel and begging to be hired by others, lol.
Already lost 3 cuckers this year and more want to get out, so much winning!!
But hey, at least the Cuck Queen Froot is still there for you!

>>57656010
Anon...do your math reps.

>>57657217
>Kek keep replying is obvious who's seething for something so small if not then why do you keep replying.
>Waiting

>>57657377
>"I know you are but what am I"
Jesas

>>57657309
nice fanfic loser, stay mad

>>57651851
>>57655771
How many of these """hours watched""" are them not actually producing content themselves? Or is this from a time period where they legitimately streamed for all of those hours?

>spams thread on cooldown defending whorejo
>n-no YOU are the o-one that is m-mad!!!! s-seethe now!!!

>>57655747
Well, they did cross the line by making their first 3D concert with original songs a week ago that included all 9 members. Something started to change after the April walkout.

>>57657309
Kson hasn't been streaming because she's been extremely ill

>>57657673
Guess scissoring JAV cumdumpsters wasn't such a smart move.

some many delicious tears

>>57657852
The AV industry has rigorous STD testing standards. Don't assume other people are as irresponsible as your mother is.

>>57640728
>Vshojo is big enough now that debuting a 2 view would make them an instant 4 view especially when announcing them at events such as this.
It isnt, the VShojo brand isnt strong enough to do that

>>57657714
Please post webms of Vshojos top notch 3D shows running at 15 fps. These ones are way too high quality for this thread

>>57639658
Obviously, they're a Twitch company

>>57657441
>>57657714
Kino.
See what happens when you have a handful dedicated members for the lewd stuff and not base your entire dogshit company around vwhoring? Lmao.
Hololive does cater to every need. Holochads can't stop winning.

>>57657588
65% of Ironmouse "content" is react content.

>>57658020
>base your entire dogshit company around vwhoring
Who's doing that?

>>57658020
>kek a marine poster, how stupid and hypocritical can they sound
>reads post
>right on target
you retards never cease to amazing me, kek

>>57658339
Still seething, vcuck?

>>57658293
As low effort as that might be I have no problem with it if she herself actually streams all of those hours. If she can gather 10k people to watch that garbage then more power to her.
It's really just the sleeping/fucking off to do something else while VODs play or someone else takes over the stream that I have a problem with.

>>57658339
What is this post
It's like it's trying to mimick a human being

>>57658472
did you read you're own post?
geeez so unaware

>>57658494
It's the same King of the Vcucks replying to every single comment for like 2 hours now, lol.

>>57658540
Jesas delete this, I feel bad for you.

>>57658634
bro!, just stop trying...it's just embarrassing

>>57658540
I don't know, ESL, do YOU read your own posts?

>>57658310
just every vshitshow member
henya not too much, but she has been hanging out with them.
give her some time and they will teach her how to be a vwhore in no time

>>57658720
I guess it's accurate for the Vcucks to have humiliation fetishes, lmao.

>>57658743
>just every vshitshow member
Could you elaborate on that?

Mel is obvious, of course.
But what are the other members doing that makes them whores?

>>57658743
The moment Pikamee started hanging out with the vwhores and western indies she started spamming "reaction" """"""""""content"""""""""". Now that she's in cocksleeve company, it's only a matter of time.

>>57658805
Tempiss colab

horizontal really mindbroke some holokeks, they've been really uppity lately

>>57658835
>Kson
https://youtu.be/Gv19shUX8dk?t=45
>Apricoot
https://youtu.be/E9Pbx0vz2B8?t=50

Not the same anon, I was just bored. Took me literally 1 minute to find these so I'm confident that I can find everyone else being a whore too.

>>57659252
So all it takes is a single instance, huh

>>57657441
>>57657714
My God, Hololive can literally do everything, they even beat vwhorejo at their own thing.
It's ok, vcuckbros, you still have the top reaction content "creators".

>>57659380
noel, dildos
enough said

>>57659380
every time I see holokeks complaining about whores I post those webms and they immediately shut up and switch to "actually whores are good" and I don't think they have the self awareness to see how funny that is

>>57659496
>Everytime I post these webms it backfires spectacularly and I end up looking like a big ass retard
Hand in there, little guy.

>>57659609
hypocrite

>>57659609
backfire? it's my goal to get holokeks to acknowledge that whoredom is good. hololive was built on ero content before the muslims showed up and ruined the fandom.

>>57651851
I'm actually impressed by vspo getting that much

>>57657714
is there a torrent of this stream?

>>57655771
>>57657309
>>57655958
This debacle can be solved by using median per group rather than top end
Besides
>Numbers

>>57659316
No? Shit nigger, do you want me to go searching for more examples just to prove a point? "If you don't show me more then it doesn't exist" is such a cuck mentality lmao.

>>57660161
so you agree that holos are all whores after the swimsuit debacle right

You people need to remember that whenever a Holotard bronies are shitposting, the logic is always
>It is okay when Hololive does it
While also seething about homocollab and whoring in their own general
They don't have such a burdensoome feeling like cognitive dissonance.

>>57660200
What "debacle"?

>>57651851
Vwhorejo is actually a small fry

BEFORE THIS THREAD DIES, I WANT YOU TO ALL KNOW THAT I LOVE GEEGA

>>57639658
Vshojo is a corpo of literally ONLY nepo hires

>>57660200
If this is what you are getting from my post, than you are retarded and this reply is a waste of time. Vshojo with a few exception farm coomers consistently. Hololive have isolated instances of fan service, and that's why you see the same webm posted every time, because there's really not a lot more than that. But hey, if you are happy being cuck and pretending that they are not whores, than I'm happy for you. Who am I to tell you that your feelings are wrong.

>>57660838
But why their fanbase talk so big tho? Like they are some kind of industry leader?

>>57660200
ESLchama...

>>57640278
>The entire fucking point of a talent agency is to find new talent
This isn't true at all, especially when it comes to streaming ones. Even celebrities are joining new agencies, it's not as if they stick with the same one from the day they become famous. Major streamers are no different ,almost all of them have an agency that represents them.

>>57640278
>>57661262
Yeah that's not the point of an agency, but the point of an audition to join an agency. It's clear there are no actual vshojo auditions.

>>57640067
>Why would you hire no names without established audience?
Since a major point of a vtuber corpo is to give small indies a chance to grow? Kson is correct that most corpos don't give enough creative freedom but Idol Corp seems to be closer to her stated ideals. VShojo is profitable but is a club of big name indies that already had an audience.

VShojo really does live rent free in peoples minds doesn't it.

>>57661718
You don't even know what that phrase means.

>>57661458
VShojo terms are very much in the talents favor. That only works if the talent can actually produce sponsor and merch revenue. They also don't own the IP when the talent leaves. Going for "already successful" is the only strategy that works under those terms. It's the same reason labels don't offer Joint Venture contracts to newbie bands

hey Vshojocucks what does connor's scrotum taste like?

>>57661718
3.4% >>57651851

>>57661880
Dunno, I didn't simp for him? I wonder what Yagoo or Riku's taste. Do you, perhaps, know?

>>57661885
>3.4% spread among 9 members
Again, calculate using median, you fucking holoshill.