/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>57628680
noel shaves, so suisei for a thick and musty bush

>>57628680
Noel of course

Noel for tits

>>57628680
Noel. I'm a boob man.

Noel any day of the week

>>57628680
Come on. I know Suisex and all that, but how can you say no to Noel's mammaries? There's no contest.

>>57628680
flat is justice

>>57628680
Suisei is my oshi and I respect her too much. Of course I think she is sexy and I like her ero fan art, but I can't iamagine fucking her in real life.
Noel however.... The things I would do. I would pay a lot of money if needed.

Massive Mammaries. Though it would be nice to impregnate Suisei. Maybe turning her into a mom will knock the bitch out of her. It tends to work for a lot of women since they get all maternal and shit.

>Itt: raging homosexuals

>>57628680
Flatfags only exist on the internet, no sane person irl would take a boy like Suisei over a cow like Noel.

>>57629015
>preferring female secondary sexual characteristics is gay
Projecting much?

I have a hatred for Suisei for reasons I don't understand. I have nothing bad to say about her, but for some reason, I hate her. I literally can't figure out why. For that reason, I pick Noel.

Noel.
If you even need to ask the question or take more than a millisecond to come to the only answer : Noel, you're gay, simple as.

>>57629123
Same, kinda. I don't hate her, but there's definitely something irritating about her.

>>57629123
That's the /vt/ psy-ops working its magic. Stick around long enough and you'll pick up secondhand hatred for a lot of people.

>>57628680
This is like comparing a micropenis manlet to a hung jock.

Suisex only fat bitches have tits like noel

>>57629281
>sees tits
>instantly thinks of penises

>>57628680
one hates their audience, one hates their job
it's a tough call. i guess gun to my head i'd take the titgoblin.

>>57628680
both at the same time

>>57628680
Tits McGee

>>57628916
myth busted

>>57628680
They both are the same person

>>57628680
Noel. I can't resist my urge to stick my dick into crazy.

>>57629394
>one hates their audience, one hates their job
I see no EN members in that image
>>57629430
This

>>57629297
>he doesn't know

>>57629518
Noel is so sweet though. One of the most friendly members of Hololive IMO.

>>57628680
whichever i get along with better

>>57628680
Suisei. She's pure sex. Don't care that her tita are small, her whole aura makes me want her to dominate me, kabedon me, make me feel owned and safe.

It's Noel. Not that I wouldn't a comet. But it has to be Noel.

>>57628905
CRINGE waterballoon lover

>>57629229
But those like Mori, Ame, Shiori, Baelz, and some others deserve it. If it is a psyop, /vt/ did a damn good job to get me to dislike Suisei when I don't even watch her.

>>57629930
Then watch her. She’s pretty entertaining as well

>>57629911
there are other boards for you, this isn't the one you tell us about your closet, anon.

>>57629957
Maybe one day. It just feels like there must be some good reason I'm forgetting. There is something. I know there is.

>>57628680
genuinely tough call. on the one hand, noel's tits are to die for, but on the other hand, suisex is suisex. i think i'll go with noel this time though.
>>57629930
if you have nothing bad to say about someone and you still dislike her you just might be turning into a schizo.

>>57630042
no, it could just means he lacks the language tools to describe legitimate reasons.
which, given how much of a bitch she is, is the much more likely scenario.

>>57628680
Noel is more feminine, is a very sweet person and has huge melons. Suisei is good too but it's a no-brainer.

>>57630139
/vt/ keeps parroting she's a bitch and has never given a single source besides "she doesn't like having lewds in her art tag" and some mario kart shit that nobody has any real evidence of either.

Noel is pure seggs

I can't believe all the people choosing Noel just because of her tits. Imagine the Suisex. Imagine having her be yours. She's spent her whole life trying to be an idol, and could only achieve it through Hololive. After all these years she's finally amounted to some amount of material success, but it's only success in the form of illusion. She's no real singer/idol, she's just a woman behind a camera. Subconsciously, she knows this. She successfully copes every day by holding onto her perfectly curated persona that convinces v-tuber fans she's a real idol, that she's actually truly living out her dream. But as you're railing her the illusion shatters. In this moment there's nothing about her that's even close to an idol, she's just a hole for you to use. She is ACUTELY aware of what she truly is, what she's not, and how she's being used. There is nothing sexier than this.

>>57630330
Nah, I choose her because of her heart. Suisei is a bitch.

>>57630330
Not everyone is into rape, anon. I'd rather have sweet and loving baby-making sex with Noel with cuddling afterwards.

>>57630448
Precisely my point, yes.

>>57629123
You probably subconsciously find her stuck up; she's pretty confidant and self assured compared to the average Holo

Boobs are cool and all, but have you heard of Suisex ?

>>57630497
No one said anything about rape. The mere act of suisex breaks her ego, but this says nothing of consent.

>>57630511
we don't do masochism here, go back

>>57630523
That's very possible. I have seen not just clips, but some collabs with her in them. But I don't know. I feel like I a predisposed to dislike her and then after watching something with her in it, I have to nitpick and everything she does sucks. I know this is completely unfair, which is why I try to not be mean to her. I know there is something making me see her in such a bad light.

>>57628680
Noel every time

>>57628680
Noel is fantastic but there's something indescribably fucking attractive about Suisex

>>57628680
There is only one right answer

>>57628680
Suisei’s flat chest is for Chad Thundercock to drag his dick on
Noel’s clonkers are for SEA coomers

>>57630895
imagine being this in denial
it's okay to like men anon, it's 2023.

Suisex was ruined for me when a certain SEA youtuber whose fans spammed this place kept bringing it up. That guy brings up Suisex like every other video. He ruined it.

>>57630768
Cumming on Suisei’s jeans!

>>57628905
I want her to breastfeed me while she strokes my hair and calls me a good boy

>>57630931
Your brown micropenis must blast off every time you step into a Walmart and see an ocean of scooter-riding hamplanets. Acquire standards.

>>57628680
both, and mindbreaking suzy by forcing her into https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=195907 situations repeatedly

>>57631100
Why would you use Gelbooru over Danbooru?

>>57630978
You'll have a sad life if you let SEA subhumans dictate what you enjoy

>>57628680
Suisei because I'm a retard that's attracted to bitches

>>57628680
More of a happy handful kind of guy myself. Is the clown just off screen on the table, or is this my only options?

>>57631138
Because having to pay money for access to everything is stupid?

>>57631343
>he doesn't know

Suisex posters never even post the one part about her that could even be considered "sexy", her thighs. Which boggles my mind.

>>57631531
Say no more

>>57631082
Kek
This

>>57628680
Suisei = Condom, just to alleviate myself
Noel = Baby making raw sex

>>57631138
nigger i can't even access that image on danbooru without giving them shekels because muh lolis

>>57629123
This is how you image Suisei if you were dating, right?

>>57631946
I have never thought about dating Suisei. But maybe? The more hateful part of me would say she would act like this. But I have no grounds to base it on.

>>57628779
fpbp

Noel is a better option to date

>>57632035
as a massive suifag it makes me sad to see when someone says they don't like her, but it makes me feel better to know it's just a hunch and not because of false impressions pushed by dramafags. and i get it, she has a very strong aura that may turn people off and that's totally reasonable, after all for example many people have said they felt intimidated by her in person before she opened her mouth and revealed she's a complete sperg.

>>57632976
Not me, i like confident women who can make me cry it turns me on

>>57628680
Noel for breeding, as Suisei would die during childbirth

All of shiraken is pretty cool

>>57628680
The one that's a slut

Actually since OP isn't a fag, I kinda wish we got a 1 on 1 suisei/noel collab

Suisex is special, but there's no beating raw sex with a bitch with beautiful huge tits and a great figure. The visual feast as they bounce, the feeling of their delightful softness filling your hands... Couple that with Noel's nature and you would be living a dream everyday.

>>57628680
suisei because she has a penis

>>57629123
Same but instead of hatred it's fear for Marine, I've nothing but respect for the likes of Suisei, I can't even see her as woman but a big sister role model, someone to kneel at.

>>57628680
suisei can't do this

>>57628680
The flatty of course.

>>57635896
i dont care

suisei easily, how is that even a question

>>57636784
wrong board anon, i'm sure hiroshimoot has an lgbtxyz+ board for you now

>>57628680
I can't fix her, but I'll have fun trying!

>>57628680
Noel for marrying and having a dozen children with, Suisei for the mistress I regularly rape

>>57629702
Definitely the nicest in the company but she’s also bat shit insane

>>57628680
The one who could give me a nursing handjob without having to bend over awkwardly so my mouth could reach her nipple.

>>57630208
You can tell when someone’s a bitch off the vibe they give off. But what’s more interesting to me is why people that don’t watch her defend her so readily. You don’t get that with Subaru, Marine, Pekora, Aqua, Miko or even Fubuki. They don’t have close to the level of people that defend suisei even though for all intents and purposes they have bigger fanbases. Almost like the people hating her and defending her are the same

>>57629702
I know she's a really nice person, but knowing she has a menhera side the slips out sometimes is hot.

There's no contest

>>57639009
Yes, nobody on this board watches JP and those who do usually just stick to their split. This isn't a mystery. Also I'd argue only Marine has an EOP fanbase bigger than Suisei's out of all the people you listed. Or Towa.

>>57639009
Suisei comes off as cocky, but she knows her past and how grateful she is to get the opportunity to not only be an idol, but a vtuber. Most of JP is very good with the attitudes. Its weird because Suisei manages to get along with Mori, who i would consider bitchy because she only partakes in things that she enjoys.

>>57639009
>You can tell when someone’s a bitch off the vibe they give off.
lol just as i read elsewhere on the catalog a few minutes ago. >>57631453

>>57639009
lol just as i read elsewhere on the catalog a few minutes ago. >>57632599
(quoted the wrong post)

>>57641435
>This isn't a mystery. Also I'd argue only Marine has an EOP fanbase bigger than Suisei's out of all the people you listed. Or Towa.
Miko? Hello?

>>57641619
Never found Suisei attractive before, but I think I get it with this image. Very hot here.

Everyone who didn’t pick suisei is in the closet

>>57628680
60 Suisei and 40 Noel
I prefer flat... ish, but big boobs are nice to a limit

>>57643895
on /vt/? No. Miko can barely keep her split alive

>>57643895
She has a sizeable EOP fanbase for sure but I'd argue it's about the same size as Suisei's.

suisei deadass arrogant af you know she think she better than yall

>>57628680
If I wanted big boobs I can just impregnate suisei

Suisei, this isn't even a contest. Suisei being so confident and not dabbling in GFE makes her insanely erotic, just becuase it would be so nice to break through her idol image and get to see her sexy side. It's like the gap moe of her being a dork.

>>57629447
flat boobs are still boobs and produce milk retard

You guys have to have 0 social skills to not pick up on Suisei's vibes. I don't even know if she's genuinely bad or if she's just a complete misfit too and genuinely doesn't realize how she's acting.

>>57647127
>>57646461
so true sis! her friends secretly HATE her! #cut4hex

>>57647279
what friends? Another bitch like miko?

>>57647358
>nijinigger outs herself as not even a clipwatcher
kawaiso

>>57647358
>calling suisei a bitch
roru
>calling miko a bitch
rumao
Why are nijisisters like this?

>>57647543
Towa is closer to other people, she just play with suisei sometimes
Same with Aqua, but aqua is too much of an autist to tell her to stop being annoying.
Miko just want to bait again and talk about her bf with the another straight woman

what other "friends" she have besides startend and miko? Even marine and chloe said they don't consider her their friend, on her own radio.

>>57646703
idols and doing GFE are basically synonyms since you see supposed to fall in romantic love with idols or else you aren't considered a real fan

>>57648034
Why are you falling for Nigger48 lies?
They ruined the whole Idolsphere, which originally nurtures fatherly feelings. And yes, wholesome grooming WAS the point.
Instead it become unwholesome and obsessive.

>>57647931
>Towa is closer to other people, she just play with suisei sometimes
>Same with Aqua, but aqua is too much of an autist to tell her to stop being annoying.
So true si-- ACK
https://twitter.com/tokoyamitowa/status/1697991098340389290
>Miko just want to bait again and talk about her bf with the another straight woman
Learn english before you try vomiting weird headcanons
>what other "friends" she have besides startend and miko?
A solid group of 6 close friends (shiraken + startend) sounds pretty standard to me, and everyone else who talks about her won't stop gushing about how cool and friendly she is.

>>57647931
>Same with Aqua, but aqua is too much of an autist to tell her to stop being annoying.
this alone is enough proof that you're talking out of your ass. also answer the fucking question nigger this isn't your stealth "seethe about suisei over nothing" thread.

>People saying Suisei is a bitch
>She's a saviourfag
>She stated her albums success was thanks to lots of people helping behind the scenes and was a team effort
>Talks about how people who abandon their pets are trash, and how you should adopt pets from animal shelters while playing GTA V and swerving to avoid dogs

I can't see her as a negative person at all. Her work ethic and general personality just make me envy whatever guy marries her bcause she's a legit amazing catch.

>>57648503
>fatherly feelings
it is schizophrenia to feel this for someone who isn't your biological child so you're wrong
it is as unnatural to have fatherly feelings towards woman as it is for a man to have sex with another man, it is also a symptom of low testosterone unironically and idol fans have always been high T chads ever since the first boom

>>57628680
Suisei. Will probably pick Noel if i’m a shota

>>57648590
>Shiraken
Lmao, Noefure are a thousand times closer with other members than with suisei, and polka is also a thousand times closer with Flare than with suisei. That leaves MiComet again.

I honestly think pisshiyomis have the same social awareness as their oshi, just because you spend 2 hours or talk to someone once in a while doesn't make them friends, at best, she's an acquaintance/co-worker or a "friend of a friend".

>>57628680
I would choose Noel in a heartbeat. But because of this image, my love for skinny flat girls resurfaced again.
So I'm 50/50 with this one.

>>57648843
>High T buzzwords
>Coming from men seething about imagined relationships not being real
DYRBI?
I'm just saying what the original Idols were before 48 astrocucking.

>>57648868
we don't accept people who like femdom in /vt/

>>57628680
I find Suisei extremely attractive but for some reason the narrative surrounding her sexuality here - that she’s a stuck-up bitch who needs to be fucked and dominated and made into a mother - just makes me really sad. There’s nothing attractive about it, it’s just depressing knowing that she’s a confident smart kind-hearted and extremely talented woman but the thing that’s the most attractive about her to some of you is the idea of humiliating her. I don’t know, something about it just depresses me. I don’t want to think about her seeing something like that.
Anyways, consensual lovey-dovey sex with both, perhaps simultaneously.

>>57648951
>>57647931
>>57647358
>>57647127
nobody cares you ungrateful nijifaggot. go back to your doxxsite to schlick yourself at the thought of your shitty "suisei is fat" rrats or something.

>>57648951
>close friends also have close friends
>this makes them not close friends anymore
what the fuck is this retard logic? following that then only a select few in hololive have more than 1 friend.

>>57649060
>buzzwords
what the fuck, it is literally a biological fact that testosterone decreases with fatherhood. It's not a retarded meme it's literally true
fatherhood is inherently a less manly state biologically speaking and Japanese men are the manliest men based on studies done of masculinity
Also you're wrong, the idol industry used to be absolutely unapologetic with the "boyfriends not allowed" policy which itself peaked in the 1980s. It was societal consensus that an idol having a boyfriend, even hidden, was absolutely not tolerated. That only happens with GFE

>>57649176
Needs pubes

>>57648951
Literally everyone I know at work is a co-worker, not a friend. Why the fuck would vtubing be any different? Especially when they already lie about how much they want to fuck one another.

>>57649094
Porn and fucked up gender dynamics have ruined relationships. Dating is just unappealing because of how people can act these days. I even see retards tweets about how their "kinks" are normal things like their partner loving them, or how they tried to rebrand monogamy as some revolutionary concept without admitting their grandparents were right about relationships.

Vanilla sex is best, and you shouldn't post Korone in this thread because she's my first choice. Imagine the endurance sessions.

>p-please hate Suise--
No.
At least have the decency to post Noel tits to support your "argument"

>>57649094
"confident" women are assholes and half of humanity would be living happier lives if confident women didn't exist

Why did the thread get invaded by assblasted faggots?
>>>/lgbt/

>>57649591
Yes anon I’m sure your life would be happier if women were contractually obligated to be nice to you. Why should I care though

>>57649468
thank you for accepting that they are not friends and that they have lying and yuribait as a hobby.

>>57649468
Confident women are the tools that were used to fuck up gender dynamics in the first place

>>57649744
I don't know who you thought you were replying to but you sound like a retard

>>57649752
you dont want to be dominated by a hot girl? weird.....

>>57649752
Anon, I hope you understand how much you show your hand by admitting you want women to be practically forced into relationships with terrible men via social pressure

>>57649744
keep my kanataso out of your seething mouth you disgusting shitskin.
p.s. i would choose neither and i would fuck kanata

>>57649703
Because there is a non 0% chance for half the world's population shoot and kill the other half and the idea behind that fact is the basis of human empathy and morality ever since we became a social species
tl;dr be nice or get shot, you have no alternative

>>57649934
Hm I think things might be a bit more complicated than “be nice or die”. Just a hunch. Nice try though.

>>57629123
It's called jealousy, sister . . .

>>57649909
>terrible men
the average person is not terrible and if you think they are you should be shariah law'd

>>57649591
Confident women are hot. The issue is most women are retarded and mistake being an agressive, combatitive cunt as being confident/assertive. Meek women are dull simply because they are no different to yesmen, you want a different perspective to help cover weaknesses when you plan your lives together.
I just hope >>57649094 didn't interperate my previous post as wanting to humiliate Suisei. The sexual stuff is nice simply because it's not something she would do casually. Stuff thats given out for free to many people has no emotional value.Taken to an extreme how could you have romantic sex with a porn star/prostitute when sex is something she/he does as a "job"? At that point the action is detatched from emotion.

>>57649920
>is now falseflagging
that's just sad.

>>57650072 (Me)
meant for >>57649744

>>57650034
>things are complicated
life is actually incredibly simple and intuitive to understand when you don't have people trying to convolute it systematically for personal gain
societal issues were outliers that basically never happened until recent eras

>>57650069
Your post wasn’t necessarily the one I was referencing (more the one about wanting to turn Suisei into a hole, actually) but I appreciate the clarification regardless. I agree - there’s something special about sex with someone who’s not very openly sexual, because you know it’s because you’re special to her.

>>57628680
Anyone who says they would choose the blue one needs to have more confidence in themselves. Noel is the clear choice.

>>57650069
If you aren't a retard about how you form your opinions you shouldn't need a partner to check with, you should be second-guessing yourself by default

>>57628680
Fuck Suisei
Marry Noel

>>57628680
only low T psuedo-males would pick Suisei over Noel

>>57650233
>societal issues were outliers that basically never happened until recent eras
The entirety of human civilization is built on the backs of people convoluting systems and frameworks of government/society/religion etc to put themselves in power. Do you honestly believe there’s an inherent desire to kill someone when they’re mean to you in everyone? Regardless of the fact that our understanding of the morality of murder & the morality of cruelty is shaped by our social/economic/political circumstances at any given time? All of the various “rules” we have ever established for ourselves as a species were always a smokescreen for various power plays. By appealing to the notion that “might makes right” is an intrinsic, predetermined biological imperative instead of a very specific philosophy implemented to socially benefit those with more access to the mechanisms of interpersonal violence.
The only reason you think things are somehow different, or that these past few eras are the first real attempt at the manipulation of morals for social capital (leaving aside that our understanding of morality has always been flexible and defined by circumstance and timeframe), is because you’re no longer the one benefiting from the current manipulations at play. Sucks to suck!

it's a true 50/50 for me, i love both flat tits and big tits.

>>57650558
>AI
gross
>>57650605
man what the fuck is happening in this place?

suisei and laplus should be fired

that the only way to save HL

>the great debate

>>57628680
I require Noel paizuri.

>>57650605
>Do you honestly believe there’s an inherent desire to kill someone when they’re mean to you in everyone?
Killing people when they bother you too much is literally the only natural mechanism available for evolution to even ever develop emotions like empathy in the first place
social species wouldn't even be possible in the first place if it didn't happen because there would be no means of corrective pressure from within the system itself to abruptly release itsef
angry lynch mobs are the guardians of healthy societies

>>57651996
Okay, calm down there Manson.

>>57649094
Shut up low-t faggot, go cry to korone again why don’t you

>>57649408
>it is literally a biological fact that testosterone decreases with fatherhood. It's not a retarded meme it's literally true
Niggers abandon there kids and are still shooting and robbing people

>>57650605
Also the group with the most social capital per capital has literally never changed, society was just able to protect itself but that groups logical influence on human genetics(creation of a caste system biologically) because a biological caste system is actually extremely unadvantageous in most contexts. That group is now too powerful and is enforcing the mechanics of a rigid biologically defined caste system on a species whose basic biological functions oppose the creation of genetic caste systems. This causes stress on the species as a whole and the urge to correct itself will statistically speaking manifest until the unnatural state has been undone, because that's what we're programmed for
We're just not very good at understanding who is fucking us over which is easy to manipulate in very specific contexts that are very different from the ones we developed in

>>57653095
Yes, it's the lizardmen isn't it?

>>57652770
yeah but younger niggers do it better

>>57629281
9 out of 10 women would fuck the micropenis

>>57653229
No, it's the people at the top past a certain breakpoint
gender is a natural caste system for complex life and the male gender is the stronger caste so it'd be the top from that caste specifically
life doesn't have built in caps on desires to hoard resources so past a certain breakpoint when you can begin accumulating resources for yourself from the wider pool of society as a whole you will do it naturally
the powerful who can get powerful enough to try and force society into keeping themselves that way always provide a force on society to benefit the powerful, and the rest of society provides a corrective function to that unnatural state via murder and war
but now the powerful have enough power to escape that corrective function because of this very abrupt and global change in circumstances

>>57630330
I rather do actual rape than whatever this scenario is

>>57631082
better in a walmart than a kindergarten like you

>>57628680
Suzy

>>57630768
Monkey brains pick big tits and muh nice personality
chads pick waist-hip ratio and confidence

>>57628680
Noel ALWAYS

>>57647543
>everyone who calls suisei out for being the obvious bitch that she is is a "nijinigger"
the level of cope here is unsustainable. i worry for you.

>>57649199
sorry your bitchy oshi got called out for what she is. i hope you feel better soon, cultist-chan.

>>57658722
>>57658771
it's okay nijishitter, suisei's promoting your nijis in tomorrow's episode of her music radio show once again you don't have to sperg out.

>>57658722
>>57658771
Huh that anon was right, they really just parrot "s-she's a bitch!!" and never say why other than "le vibe" and her confidence.

Anyway, Shirogane Tits

>>57628680
mindbreak suityan

>>57629702
Yes, Noel is one of the sweetest and friendliest Holos but she also has huge anger issues, I feel like if annoy her enough over something minuscule she wouldn't hesitate to punch you in the face.
still I would give almost anything to spend a single night with her.

>>57628680
both

>>57628680
Shota gets both

>>57628680
I simply magically transform into a shota, that way I don't have to choose

>>57651996
Or empathy exists because two monke human working together can gather more resources and for them to work together better they need to understand each other.
Humanity is entirely evolutionarily driven by being social, otherwise we wouldn't even be able to talk.

>>57631946
Holy shit, I have never consider this. This sounds so toxic, but also ironically reassuring.

I am always grinding because I feel like I have to prove something to myself, or that people think I’m complacent. But it’s honestly a vicious cycle of me reaching goals that never make me feel happy about, or think that I just got lucky.

Where can I find someone who is actually okay with who I am, and I can trust that they mean it?

>>57665471(me)
or I’m scared* that people think I’m complacent

>>57628680
B-C cups > D-E cups > A/AA/AAA cup > F+ cup
Suisei wins.

>>57628680
Noel

>>57628680
Momosuzu Nene.

>>57667088
Pretty sure shes an A cup.

>>57628680
Neither

Yes but which plushie do you pick anon?

Fags who've never experience the pure joy of sucking, slapping, gropping, giggling, and fucking a nice pair of big tits will never understand how easy of an answer this is.

>>57674404
>giggling
Teach me how to giggle tits chad-sama.

>>57647127
true, compared to other holomems I often feel like she acts too distant towards fans

>>57647127
It’s insane how you just keep repeating “well, she f-feels like a bitch!” Citing just “vibes” as proof and nothing she’s ever actually done (because it’s almost like her actions have only ever shown her to be a sweet funny dork who loves her co-workers and job)

>>57628680
that breasts would look good with neon-green bikini

>>57673969

>>57628805
great choice

Suisei is my type. Maxed out INT and drive, kinda cunty but not to you. Extremely rare despite the fact that all women think they are her.

>>57677190
>kinda cunty
explain.

>>57677190
>Maxed out INT and drive, kinda cunty but not to you.

>>57628680

Suisei is a bitch and thinks too high of herself. I dont care about he music, she hates her fans. Has a not so secret bf and he taste in games is shit. Hates het job and woild rather be an e-celeb.

Noel is a better vtuber/camwhore/gfe streamer than her by an order of several magnitudes. Her singing is cute and she has a superior taste in games. Also theres a cute nerd this this mountain tits and she just has the better voice. Top 10 holo and all time classic.

>>57677190
Suisei isn't cunty.
She also isn't that smart, iirc her school grades weren't great. Suisei is however hardworking, resiliant, confident and ambitious. I also really love how despite how easy it would be, she never goes into GFE or lewd shit to further her career (she even removed jiggle physics from her 3D after people talked about her chest instead of her music).
It's her strong personality that makes her really charming, and very, very weird for a Japanese person given they don't seem the type to have outspoken people in their culture.

>>57678889
She is very respectable

>>57678941
She's a great example of a confident, assertive woman instead of the "girlboss" cunts.

>>57678889
>she even removed jiggle physics from her 3D after people talked about her chest instead of her music
So she's a no fun cunt, just like Ina and Kronii, got it

>>57628680
Suisex for pissing in my mouth.

>>57628680
Noel because I'm not gonna cuck my little sister

Fuck it more Shiraken

>>57688434

>>57628680
Noel has huge tits so her.

>>57649094
>There’s nothing attractive about it, it’s just depressing knowing that she’s a confident smart kind-hearted and extremely talented woman but the thing that’s the most attractive about her to some of you is the idea of humiliating her
Fetish and attractiveness are two different things. Just because I wank to necrophilia and would absolutely wank to a h work to one including Suisei, doesn't mean I actually want to do it to her, its nothing scary if you know how to separate fantasy and reality. I'm admired and attracted by Suisei for her elegantness and personality but fetish is totally another topic

>>57691762
His point is people take her personality traits and just view them as something to be broken, instead of appreciating her as she is.
I also feel it's worse you're calling her elegant and yet talking about how you rub one out to necro, people who fap to that shit should be crass and unable to discuss elegance.

>>57693161
>His point is people take her personality traits and just view them as something to be broken, instead of appreciating her as she is.
No idea why you can't just do both at the same time. Appreciate the way she is as a person while still having the kink of breaking her, because who the f care about what I fantasize. I assure you I haven't kill anyone yet over a fetish

>>57642020
i agree with that anon desu, suisei is literally one of the most harmless holos once you actually know about her like >>57648813 said, on top of still being in contact with her indie days friends even after she got famous and has multiple times shown being grateful to hololive despite often fighting with management, both completely against what /vt/ projected what she would be
one particular thing about her is that takes her gig very seriously, and she is extremely professional about it. she purposefully imposes a certain distance to her fans so they won't go into unhealthy parasocial relationships, something that is honestly respectable but can be twisted easily because she went straight to the point (for comparison, fubuki did the same thing with her "no wife friend only" too but because she is more playful with it she got less flak about it)
even her 'dramas' are mostly due to external seethe and they end up being nothingburgers in the long run
really says something if the worst non-antis could say about her in /here/ is that she is a male collaber or her 1st mario kart tournament champion moment, and even then i just don't get people who would anti/schizo her because she doesn't have any actual underlying internal issues

>>57696797
>i just don't get people who would anti/schizo her because she doesn't have any actual underlying internal issues
Success breeds jealousy.

>>57700219
maybe instead of being jealous they can just use her as an inspiration instead...oh wait who am i kidding, this is /vt/, can't have a reasonable opinion here

>>57700219
>>57701482
NGL I'm no anti and leaned parasocial towards her and had to cut back just because I was comparing my own life to hers and I'm never going to be as successful as her and I'm 3 years older than her. The worst part is I think she's nice person, I just can't watch her because I compare our lives and wish I could be a guy on her level but it's straight up impossible. Atleast with a bunch of other vtubers you have a chance to pretend you're on equal footing by just becoming a doctor or engineer, but she's one of the ones who is beyond normal people. Same for others like Pekora, Marine, etc but I didn't find myself unironically developing a crush on the others so I don't care.
I hope everything works out for her, but I can understand some people being bitter about others going from strenght to strength.