/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

last thread was pretty comfy. i'll see you all when I wake up tomorrow. stay grounded, stay hopeful, anons.

I’m really excited; earlier I had a design that was kind of bland, but I’m getting an outfit rework that’s hopefully going to help me be more distinctive!
Anons have said my content is fine before so I should have no problem working with it better

Please consider playing a game that you're passonate about so as to avoid needing a no spoiler no backseat tag

There's no greater vitual cuckolding experience than watching someone carelessly fumble through a game that you love while being stifled from discussing the parts of the game that you love. Please for the love of viewers like me stick to just chatting or play a game you're passionate about.

>>5763341
sometimes watching someone play through a game blind and seeing their reactions to things is great to kinda relive your own experience of having gone through those games, and perhaps to someone it's great to see their oshi start to love a game that they themselves are passionate about.
so shut the fuck up backseater

>>5763341
I try to do that Anon; unfortunately sometimes people will backseat the game even if I actually know how to play it for some godforsaken reason

>>5763341
This >>5763476. Honestly seeing a blind playthrough of a game is probably the best content a streamer can make, just to see a streamer's reaction to events that you're already way too familiar with. It's also neat to see how an outsider understands (or misunderstands) the game mechanics that you may be familiar with but they are completely new to.

I love Halo and I enjoyed the streams where Calli and Ame played Reach, and Zentreya and Froot played Combat Evolved. Not only was it neat seeing their reactions, but it was actually kind of educational in how they completely were blind to the established mechanics of the fuckin franchise itself that old-school fans like me take for granted. For example, they were completely unable to wrap their heads around the fact that enemies had shields, and they never quite figured out the strategy of using a shield-depleting weapon to break and enemy's shield, and then swapping to a precision weapon for a clean headshot, and they played it a bit more recklessly. It was definitely frustrating, but I mean you can't blame them for not understanding the game's meta.

I'll be perfectly honest, I'm never in it to watch a streamer play through a game that they've played a million times before and can ace through perfectly. It's boring. Honestly I love when a streamer tries a new game and tries to figure out their way through it. It's great.

>>5762838
Anyone had any views yet?
Have they said anywhere how long the review process takes? I think holo said a month??

new aspie gen doesnt look as wild as the previous ones but i welcome the wave of men that aren't excessively generic anime

Do you think it's dumb to use a name similar to my old username?
All I have ever did was lurk and post art. I looked through everything, never once talked about personal stuff.

The reason I wanna keep it is because I like the name, and so that some Japanese cubba I follow, knows it's still me.
If I get popular some rando is probably gotta catch me out for my artstyle anyways.

>>5765214
don't change if you dont think there's anything incriminating with the name, it's definitely better than having to start from scratch

Not aiming to go into this and make it huge, or end up in Niji, but I'm looking to have fun, maybe explore new games, and go acheivement hunting in old favourites.

Currently streaming as a pngTuber (not live atm), but looking for feedback on the character design. I'm not massively attached to much of it, but I liked the core concept of 'untidy wizard, pockets full of re-agents'. Artist took 'untidy' and one of the reference images, and went with blood-spatter, which isn't entirely what I was aiming for

>>5765466
you could do so much better from both a design and artist standpoint. it looks more like murderhobo stoner than just simply being untidy

>>5765466
Id go with a more Caleb Critical Role style untidy wizard than this, darkest dungeon thing you have now.

>>5763341
What if I suck at all games I play?

Thanks both.

>>5766062
That is much more what I'd had in mind, thanks for the reference!

>>5765600
Is there anything in particular standing out to you, that I need to raise to (a different) artist for changes for v2? I've got:
- bloodstains are too much
- his left (our right) eye looks deformed
- left hand tucked behind back has had two viewers ask if he's an amputee
- shoes and skirt (?) are solid dark brown, and blend too much

I liked the png to begin with, but there's all sorts of little things, based on viewer comments, or second/third looks, that I'm kind of thinking I need to remove or edit for an updated version.

The only annoyance is it feels like a massive pain to request a new 'model' so soon after the first one.

>>5766198
>The only annoyance is it feels like a massive pain to request a new 'model' so soon after the first one.
welcome to the wonderful world of concept art
this is why you mix and match parts to see what fits when its still easy before you commit to a design

>>5766198
You could always digitalize the model to express a less detailed image if the fine details bother you. Like a minecraft painting.

>>5766173
Play the ones you have fun sucking at. Viewers are leeches of fun.
Make your sucking a group activity. Take bets.

>>5765466
Lines too thick and uniform, can't focus my eyes on his face.

Remove blood spatter. Multicolored stains on his overcoat would work, look at Lofi for a similar look.

Vtuber designs usually are seen from the waist up, so too much effort in designing past the waist is not cost effective

how hard would it be to buy some vrchat-ready model and then add some hair and stuff from vroid to call it mine

There’s an artist I’m looking into for commissioning a model once I get enough money. But he was recently stopped posting altogether because idiots decided to try to run him off for making art that wasn’t even offensive in the first place. Do you think it’d be worth trying to contact him? He’s didn’t completely run off the internet or nuke his account so I take that as a sign he might be back in the future. I’m not scared of being cancelled or whatever the fuck cause the same idiots forgot about it in a span of 3 hours anyways, I’m more worried if he’d even consider taking the offer.

HERE IT IS.

Boogymen

>>5769762
What the fuck happened to the image quality?

>>5769810
DEEP FRIED

>>5711386
https://files.catbox.moe/745ndt.mp4
It's a full body illustration, but I didn't put much focus on rigging below the shoulders since it'll almost never be visible onstream.

>>5770785
If anyone wants to see what the bare bones self made rigging is like, shameless promotion:
https://www.twitch.tv/iberocorporis

What mic is at the best intersection of cost/quality? Looking around the house, the only standing (non-headset) mic I've found is a $10 BUGHA which is lackluster, to say the least, but watching a review of said mic on youtube, the reviewer (who seems to be an audiophile, or at least learned on the subject) suggests you can get youtube-quality mics for ~$50 (rather than $100 for an SM58, as recommended in the pastebin, or $150 for an Elgato Wave 3, as recommended in the previous thread)

>>5770785
what a unique pupil shape, good job on the model!

>>5770785
I love the model. Looks a lot like Lio from Promare.

>tfw someone beats you to your theme
>tfw people love her in seconds
Hate being a poor fag have to make every thing my self. I'm going to be late to all of this

>>5772819
Every theme is already taken so you might as well do it.
But what was your theme?

>>5773007
I don't want to say because I really don't want to start beef with the person I'm talking about
I'm just down in the dumps atm because how slow I am

>>5773210
Just do it anyway man, it’ll be fine and you’ve already put the work in

>>5773210
Just do it, but do it better, watch were they waiver and use their head start against them.

>>5772819
As long if designs doesn't look like copies of each other it's fine.

>>5772268
I use a $70 Samson Meteor myself. There's also the Fifine K669 for like 50 bucks that always gets recommended.

>>5763341
no way, the most views I ever got was playing dark souls 1 completely blind and dying a bunch
people love it, just like they love backseating, you just have to spank them if they cross the line

>>5773571
>>5773599
>>5773632
thank you bros even if it takes me 5 years to "debut" I'll keep at it.

Had anyone else had issues with restream working properly? I try to schedule streams, but then when I actually begin streaming through OBS it makes a completely separate stream from the scheduled stream on Youtube.

>>5774735
Take as long as you like, we‘ll be waiting for you.

>>5772763
>>5772334
Thanks Anons. Yeah it was heavily inspired by Lio! I loved the character design so much and was sad that he was only part of a single movie, but I guess that's what made it special.

Is the theme of the barista/coffee shop owner too overdone? It seems a bit more grounded than making a chuuni glowing eye OC, but is it too boring or is the market full of knockoff roberus trying to do the same shit?

if you restream over and over again I will hurt you
there's a japanese indie who shows up on my live tab with the same fucking karaoke stream over and over, just the same prerecorded 3 hour stream on loop forever as it get progressively less and less viewers

>>5774874
I haven't tried using restream with scheduled streams, only with the going live right now setup Youtube gives. Can you not select the scheduled event in restream, under the Youtube destination setting?

>>5774735
Also depending on your theme, you have a built in network. And that's a buff. The more niche the theme the more likely you are to get closer to others working in your theme, and so it's easier to help each other.
Also consider theme plus other vector. Honey goblin is a goblin but also a tavern keeper. Calico is a magical girl but also white trash, put your own spin on it.

Since I haven't bought it, does Live2D only work with .psd/Photoshop, or can it handle .pdn/Paint.net?

>>5775980
Any program that can export as .psd. Not sure about those, but i'm pretty certain Clip Studio Paint does the job

>>5775476
It's 100% overdone. But as i said earlier try to combine it with something else
Coffee addicted energetic chuuni who is selling you "energy potions" might be more interesting then barista anyway.
Or consider a more specific store then a coffee shop. Maybe you like music so your the clerk at a record store. Or maybe you like visual novels so your a librarian. The best theme is something that you can draw on real life experience so whatever wagie cagie your stuck in, try to use that.

>>5762838
OP do you have the un-/asp/ version of that picture?

>>5776132
I guess I could always go with my 2nd choice which was a Druid/Herbalist type character since I used to work in a nursery and have most of my house covered in plants

>>5774546
nta. I was considering both of those but decided on the Samson Q2U instead since it was dynamic and was concerned a condenser mic would pic up too much noise. It's been pretty good imo

i like the return of /asp/ in the OP pics

>>5775476
i think it's already overdone. even takahata is doing the whole late night bar talk show thing.

>>5769147
couldn't hurt reaching out privately through a DM, or contacting them through another website

>>5776165
I can get it when I get home, gimmie like an hour

>>5776715
Thank you. Will keep watching this thread then!

>>5776115
Looks like there's a plugin that lets PDN export to .psd. Thanks for the help!

>>5776809
I am not that one with whom you were posting with, but the image is literally just a reverse image search away. The simple text edit does not prevent any search engine to not recognize it
https://iqdb.org/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.4cdn.org%2Fvt%2F1624863347215.png

>>5775600
I might need to try that then. It's pretty annoying starting the stream just to realize the name and description of the stream are completely off.

Tsunderia opened auditions
https://twitter.com/tsunderia_us/status/1409558203294097409?s=19

>>5778353
I don’t follow any of their talent at all. What’re they like, anyone know?

>>5778353
but the talents they have already can't pull any audience... who would willingly choose to join a failing company?

>>5778806
I don't know where this rrat comes from because their numbers are regularly between the 70s-100s. Isn't that about the same as PRISM and more than other small agencies?

>>5778353
The second new model they show in that little trailer is fun. Maybe I’ll throw them an audition after nijisanji rejects me

>>5778750
Their manager is pretty insufferable to listen to so there's that

>>5779191
i'm from CA so she sounds pretty average to me.

>>5778865
>this failing agency isn't failing
>they get the same viewership as this other failing agency!

>>5775978
I think my secondary theme should help me stick out a bit in the sea of vtubers. I just have to man up and keep drawing and fucking around with live2D. Also why I don't want to say what the theme is because I would love to do content with the person in the same niche or just get to know them and befriend them

looks like it's tourist time again.

thanks bud feel free to ragequit the thread again because people gave opinions you don't like

>>5779369
are they an indie or corporate vtuber? collabing with another indie might be a lot easier than you'd expect

>>5778353
In their form what does 'showcase yourself' mean? Do they expect me to post clips of myself?

>>5780001
probably their way of saying sell yourself to them. what are you talents, what can you bring to the group?

>>5780001
it's been mentioned 100 times, the PR section is just an "Elevator Pitch" section
it's a few short paragraphs to sell yourself and make yourself stand out

>>5775476
>chuuni glowing eye OC
How common is this actually among vtubers? Ngl I'm a sucker for that trope but I don't actually know any

>>5780276
i can't think of any off the top of my head, but i think it's more a reference to character designs that people pick that would fall under a teenager's definition of "cool" and "edgy"

>>5764357
I'd wait until application submission deadline. I can't guarantee they will straight up not watch some videos like Cover did, but I feel like they will wait until submissions are over to start going through the shit they got.

>>5765466
It looks like a Darkest Dungeon thing.

>>5780146
>>5780168
'Showcase yourself' is on the audition video instructions, not the PR thing, please read the form before answering at least; does it mean showcase my skills or shit?

omg here we go with /asp/ie "what is your name" incompetence again

>>5780602
>anon asks for clarification
>give him clarification
>"you didn't read the form fuck you"
ok go fuck yourself figure it out yourself faggot

I'm starting to regret stuff about my Niji audition. The "PR is an elevator pitch of yourself" above got me. I don't think I wrote enough to make myself stand out. I want to stay positive, so when I inveitably get rejected please stay strugglers, fellow /asp/ies.

>>5780602
there's a difference between
>writing on an audition form "I can sing"
and
>actually singing a song on video
why are you this dumb?

>>5780674
But you answered a question I wasn't asking
I was asking about the audition video, while you assumed I was asking about the 'self-PR' section
It's not really difficult to read the form
>>5780724
I suppose that makes sense actually; thank you for saying something that makes sense anon
So they want me to show off examples of me doing things they have on their form and I put a tick on? Like gaming, chatting stuff, etc.?

>>5780364
Thank you, I know it’s dumb but I’m just fretting now that I’ve sent my audition in.

>>5780364
the girls applications are still going and they're going to sort through those and get people off to the interview stage before they even think about digging into the other form I bet

>Twitch or Youtube?
>Multistream to both.
Actually though, I can't decide which I'd prefer. I don't like/mesh well with Twitch culture and am leaning toward YouTube, but I have gotten mixed responses on how good that is for getting new viewers. I'm very conflicted.

>>5781813
if you're conflicted that means you're dumb as fuck and haven't done your research. youtube is garbage for livestreams.

>>5780364
If I recall correctly, a lot of people who submitted their application the last few days before the gen 1 audition deadline didn't get a view on their video. Myself included.

>>5781813
> I don't like/mesh well with Twitch culture

Then you're ngmi unless you're just super entertaining and lucky. Twitch is the platform for vtubing, and streaming in general. Why do you think so many people are moving and most are immediately growing after doing so?

>>5778353
Is it unwise to apply to both Tsunderia and NijiEN?

>>5782137
That's why I said Icouldn't guarantee it. I'm trying to stay hopeful since a few Niji talents have said they submitted at the last minute so I want to believe they will still watch some of those that submit late. This is my last cope since I already feel bad for taking 6 days to submit mine.

>>5782688
how would they know? and why would they care?

>>5782700
Good point. It's very unlikely I'd get offers from both, let alone from either.

>>5763341
People will backseat even if they don't know the game your playing

>>5782137
You've put the panic in me, I gotta hurry up with my written answers

I'm starting to think I should have sang in my video audition but I didn't. I always though I can't sing for a shit but now maybe it's not that bad. This on top of the fear I may have submitted too late is driving e crazy. I can't take it anymore.

>>5782695
the fact is it doesn't matter when you submit them anon
there's no 4D chess move Niji is doing by letting people apply later
whether people see your video or not relies on a bunch of factors outside of your control like who is seeing you application, how many other's they've done that day, their particular tastes, and other shit
the only thing you can control is how good your application is, if you put effort and have fun, it shows, and if you both clearly put effort in and have some experience that's probably the best shot you can give yourself

>>5783736
the application videos from the ones shown by Niji Members are all basically themed debuts for a new character they came up with for the interview. Just a quick 5 minute test of your voice, roleplaying ability, and ability to speak without saying something dumb.
idk where you'd fit in singing

>>5783736
do you have any videos up on the streaming platform you linked? I wouldn't worry about getting it in the video, but it might be useful to have them up there if they like you enough to click through

How did you guys handle the self pr section?

>>5783893
>the application videos from the ones shown by Niji Members
Got any links to these?

>>5783762
I did put the effort but I dont have much experience plus I was shit nervous when recording. I did my best considering the circumstances.
>>5784492
It's a dupe account.

>>5783716
Sorry! That wasn't my intention!
I just wanted to let people know that maybe it's not the best to delay your application submission to right before the deadline just so you can "gain experience" for your portfolio.
There's still two weeks left if you're applying for the female auditions. So you still have plenty of time.

Last time they seemed to be in a hurry and the audition period was only 2 weeks. This time we're given more time so maybe they'll also take the time to review the applications properly.

>>5783736
>too late
You submitted before the deadline, so you are not late

>>5779312
They’re the top performing agency that isn’t holo, niji or vshojo in the west. What the fuck is wrong with /asp/ that it doesn’t know this

>>5785380
that's because it's a troll tourist baiting for easy (You)s all /asp/ies understand

>>5785249
I constantly hear that the sooner you submit, the better so it's getting me paranoid.

>>5766173
Stop playing games. Video games are not content. They are a crutch for people with no creativity and are too young or stupid to realize that Let's Play channels are already oversaturated.

>>5785225
No, it's appreciated! I was planning to leave it a bit longer for more content like you said, but I'm going to get it in by the end of the week I think. I'm going for the female auditions so there's probably loads of applications.

>>5785525
see>>5783762

>>5785525
My guess is that people are confusing correlation with causation, the people who submitted late and thus got no views, probably submitted late not because they were busy cultivating content, but instead did it as a last ditch attempt with minimal effort, so of course they wouldn't get viewed

i drew asp-chan! changed her design a lil but its super cute!!!!!!!!!

>>5786974
omg i love her

>>5786974
Please make this the next OP

So I was reading the previous thread regarding faceless vtubers. Do you think a friendly goofy robot/mobile suit/etc vtuber that mostly expresses through his eyes and parts moving can work? Metabee pic as an example

>>5787787
You’d need animations or expressions for that; it won’t necessarily fail but it will be a lot harder or worse though

>>5787787
if done well I think it'd be cute, and potentially more expressive than other mech vtubers like valefor and clarity

>>5787787
I remember a literal Metabee streamer. There are a lot of copyright-infringing models in virtual streaming. But fuck copyright.

>>5787023
yes i heard you love her

>>5787985
I still want to try streaming with my Ian Mccollum model I made while bored.

>>5788166
baby i thought that we had something

>>5787787
Sure, if you have either lots of preset expressions, or extremely good eye tracking/rigging.

>>5787787
please don't. really. i don't get what the fucking fetish for this shit comes from. you're a streamer, not a cartoon character. please don't.

>>5788268
People can stream however they want to. Don’t just shit on people for wanting to do something different; just wanting to stay safe and doing nothing different guarantees you are ngmi

>5788698
ok, go drop $2k on a live2d model of a faceless robot whose only expressions are hard bound to hotkeys. not my money but don't say you weren't warned.

>>5788756
>faceless
i mean, you can make expressions with eyes; with just the eyes alone you could get smiling expressions with eyesmile, confused/angry expressions by messing with the eyebrow parameters, and just regular closed eyes and none of that would require hotkeys
if you have the hotkeys set to something easily accessible like a foot pedal it probably also could add a lot more as well
its a lot of effort but i don't think it would immediately doom someone

>>5788933
>its a lot of effort but i don't think it would immediately doom someone
the thing is people who rely on gimmicks like this usually don't have the personality chops to actually be entertaining. which is why they're leaning so fucking hard on gimmicks.

>>5787787
Could work, you'd have to set up your macros really well

>>5788957
i mean that's a correlation not causation kind of thing i'd imagine
some people just really like robots

>>5789214
Just make a Jenny then. Its not rocket science, its literally just extremely basic mechanical engineering.

>>5788756
I’m not going to because I don’t like that sort of thing and already have a model, but I won’t say anyone who doesn’t want to do that is 100% going to fail instantly

>>5789381
>I won’t say anyone who doesn’t want to do that is 100% going to fail instantly
they won't fail instantly, but they all fail eventually.

>>5789451
If that’s the mindset you’ll have then you’re going to fail too

>no u!
prove me wrong then

>>5789554
even lulu failed. its an inevitable.

>>5789310
aside from the fact the model's mouth would be a nightmare to try and rig, seriously. put a face on your vtuber models. use a mic. don't use a filter. don't be mute. jesus, it's like anons instantly forget that a vtuber is nothing more than streamer + avatar

>>5789997
Jenny has a normal anime mouth...

I recommend everyone watch the Finana collab right now for a lesson on how not to perform

>>5790545
what exactly am i looking for?

>>5790545
everyone in the Finana collab is a big name vtuber though?
literally all of them pull hundreds of viewers and are in the in-groups that determine who makes it and doesn't

>>5790545
I don't want to put myself through that pain, what's the qrd?

>>5790917
>>5791086
I'm guessing anon is trying to imply that Finana being more quite compared to more extroverted and larger name vtubers is how "not" to do a collab? You have other more vocal vtubers dominating the conversation, which is natural in any group dynamic.

Hell, even in HoloEN collabs, Kiara takes up most of the airtime with Ame often being the most quite one. I don't see how this is wrong, especially with so many vtubers in a single collab of varying degrees of extroversion.

>>5791146
anon is upset because all the vtubers /vt/ hates are collabing with NijiEN
which is surprising since literally anyone who gets into NijiEN like everyone is applying WILL collab with Artemis and Zentreya
you WILL collab with them and you WILL bow down to them even as an indie for a drop of clout they decide to give you

sometimes i wonder why i wasted live2d free trial...

Reminder that you don't need to know how to sing for Nijisanji, they will train you if you really do want to sing

>>5791225
I think it depends. No one had an issue with Calli and Ironmouse collabing, it's a case by case thing, if you ask me. Ironmouse gets a pass but no way in hell Veibae or Nyanners. I hate them too.

5791398
really bad bait

>>5790917
>>5791086
>>5791146
TLDR:
>Only Zen and Fin actually tested their sound/game before the collab started
>Audio issues from nearly everyone else
>That stupid fucking whale didn't even download the game
>Artemis
>They invited the screaming moose so no one can hear anyone else

>>5791465
>artemis
put this at the start so I know to ignore your post next time

>>5791585
Okay... why? They're literally in the collab, though you wouldn't know it with how quiet they're being. Are you some kind of simp for them?

i'm kinda mad at the sheer number of flat paper face so many cheap live2d riggers have. how can you see that in your demo reel and think it's a good thing?

Does anyone here know how to make duplicates of yourself in real time in VtubeStudio? So essentially, to have two (or more) of your Live2d avatar on the screen, being controlled by you, at the same time. I've been playing around in the program, but haven't found a way to do it. I might just be dumb.

>>5793849
What made think you can do it? I only saw it as part of Hololive tech.

>>5793849
i think you do that by duplicating input sources of vtube studio on OBS and not from inside vtube studio itself.

>>5793849
just make another capture or duplicate the capture in OBS?

>>5793849
Use your streaming software to do it by duplicating the studio feed

>>5793937
It might be only part of Hololive tech. I remember Gura doing that during her Super Mario 3D World playthrough.

>>5793965
>>5793971
That's what I was thinking. Gonna give it a try in OBS.

>>5793937
>>5794061

>>5794250
>filename
kek

>>5785603
So what content would you recommend going for?

>>5791362
you can still use it for free with limitations anon, it might not be enough to do a super complex model but if you do your live2d reps you could start commissions and use that to get noticed

>>5794250
Got it working, so here's a quick and dirty test of how I'd like to use this feature. Gonna work on using this so I can show the whole recording process from start to finish, track by track, until it ends with what you see here, with 4 of me singing at once. Obviously the dog is a stand-in, but I'm pretty pleased with the effect, given that I'm a complete novice with OBS and VtubeStudio. Thanks for the help, everyone!

https://files.catbox.moe/gl8zi1.mp4

>>5795226
looking good

I saw some chuubas having “alters,” and I’m kind of confused. Is it just a recolor/redesign or something else? I swear I saw one where the alter was a completely different streamer

How can i set a overlay like this? Or at list showing what music im listening to while streaming? Pic related

>>5795287
zero idea what you're talking about unless it's that "evil version" meme like Fubuki and Shirokami or Gura vs evil Gura thing.

>>5790545
>tuned on stream
>yt immediately fucks up fin and entire collab

>>5795332
that's just text, anon. i'm sure there's some plugin you can find that'll auto pull spotify data to display song and band name. but the picture you're showing is most likely just a word doc that's been cropped and manually updated by the vtuber as they sing songs.

>>5795333
Here’s an example of it: https://twitter.com/yuikaichan?s=21
And I think this other chuuba also had one? https://twitter.com/ewicaontwitch/status/1377644142239563776?s=21

>>5795226
this is really cute!!

>>5794502
Make edited content: songs, poems, stories, ASMR, skits, and comedy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdRGhPCqe80
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEOASieavBA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tsmjf2Bdx5o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfqGfsVj_vY

>>5795525
looks like its just a recolor or redesign and they're using the "alter" because it sounds cooler

So I am contemplating giving this a shot as a potential side hustle. See if I can make some cash on the side while playing vidya.
Plus sounds like it could be fun which is always a bonus.

Anyone got any advice?
I suppose one burning question is how much effort is needed on the character concept front? I've done a fair bit of writing over the years and could easily wind up overcomplicating things.

>>5795919
>See if I can make some cash on the side while playing vidya.
if this is your goal, then dont.

Why all indies have some sort of live 2d "dance" what they show up and the first stream and then never again? I mean is this thing really necessary to spend money on? I think it's looks kinda souless since it's pre-animated.

>>5796103
riggers feel the need to preprogram dances in for their roll but most indies don't have stream decks to trigger them

>>5795919
Your electricity bill for the computer will outpace your donations by far for a long ass time, assuming you stick with it. It's not even a financially viable tactic, much less by any other standard.

>>5796002
People gotta eat. You do something simply to do it then you're just burning money that a lot of people simply don't have.
You think most entertainers are doing it purely out of love?

>>5796260
ok, I can already tell you're gonna give up this obsession by the end of july

Been working on a character idea I like for a while now on my own but I had an idea that I know my friend group will love and can easily get decent art of. Which concept do you guys think I should go with?

>>5796260
you will make less than minimum wage until you get into the 100-200 average viewer range
you will make less than a day job till you get to the 400-500 viewer range
unless you just get insanely lucky that's a 2-3 year journey starting right now

>>5796384
both and switch back and forth between them as you want

So for anyone who auditioned for Niji, did you give a name for the character you imagined or do you think it's not necessary as of yet?

>>5796492
how are you going to introduce your character if you don't have a name?

>>5796492
the name is literally one of the last things you need to worry about and it'll be after they've selected and you've passed both interviews.

>>5796433
So basically its a question of advertising, appeal and finding a way to ensure viewer retention.

>>5795798
are these any better on returns as a vtuber? putting together a script and editting it all together is a lot of work when you can just play apex and get a clippable moment to throw up onto tiktok.

>>5795262
>>5795576
Thanks! Quartet recording streams are something I'd really enjoy doing, since I've taken to recording barbershop for my own amusement during the pandemic. I think it would be fun to watch the whole process unfold in a stream, so I'm going to apply with that, and reading streams being things that set me apart.

>>5795919
you're not gonna make money. if you're not doing this for fun its not worth it.
its like playing sports as a side hustle for money. it doesn't work like that.

>>5795798
considering the fact that I have more yt subs than 3/4 of these channels, I think I'll keep doing what I'm doing, tyvm.

>>5796640
you would actually make more money more consistently by just being an uber driver and delivering food than being a vtuber. if it's money, stop.

>>5796640
the time it takes to become successful in streaming is less assured and takes longer than just going to college and getting an engineering degree. and even then only like the top 10 streamers are going to make more money than you and will probably lose popularity within a few years meaning lower gains overall.

just buy GME.

>>5796750
what do you do?

>>5797193
Make long form videos about older and slightly more obscure video games, more specifically 90s-00s era FPS games.

another agency with auditions (flips)
https://twitter.com/KometaLive/status/1409544782423023625

>>5796693
that sounds neat! I've done karaoke's where I've recorded a second part to sing along with as a duet, but i've not seen anyone do a quartet before. I'd assume you'd record three parts and sing the fourth one live?

Wish there was a good American company.
I don't want to work for dirty communists.

So here's a concept I'm thinking on.
A character inspired somewhat by Ena. That flips its face and voice at various points.
Shouldn't be too hard to rig up with a speech synth and stuff. Question is would it be too grating?
Perhaps even a hivemind character?

>>5797274
You have to be a native Filipino unfortunately

>>5796492
I did, just to show my enthusiasm and love for it and for whoever watches my audition to feel my commitment.

>>5797409
You do what you want, Anon
Ignore anyone who’s a doomer; interesting concepts are fun

>>5797287
I would rather start from nothing, with the sheet music and a mixing program (Audacity) visible on screen behind me. I'd record one part at a time live, until I've got all four parts recorded, then I can listen along with the stream. But it would mean you'd get to hear the harmony build up from nothing.

With barbershop specifically, I would record the lead, then the bass, followed by baritone, and lastly tenor. Then I'd just adjust the levels. So really, it's a recording stream more than a karaoke stream. For a two to three minute song, it would probably take about twenty minutes, start to finish.

>>5796640
Please just listen to other anons here.
Too many people fall into this trap, of "live streaming is fun and easy."
Look here > https://www.twitch.tv/directory/all/tags/52d7e4cc-633d-46f5-818c-bb59102d9549?sort=VIEWER_COUNT_ASC
You need passion if your fighting this big of hurdle.

>>5797572
I'd still like some input on the idea.

>>5797632
It took a lot longer to scroll down to 2 viewers than I expected lol

>>5797624
Oh that's really neat; I didn't even realize that you would show the whole process; that's a cool idea!

>>5797737
yes, 90% of the people streaming on twitch right now are under 5 viewers
there is a literal mountain of people that are trying the same thing you are
the only way to win is to outlast them and improve while they stagnate

>>5796657
I think Mori owes much of her success from making original content herself. Being seen as a genuinely passionate artist of a medium can pay big dividends, especially if you still occasionally stream to connect with your audience.

>>5797737
I would wager good money that most of these have done zero advertising and are basically like those thots who go on camwhore sites and onlyfans. Do a little half assed shit then expect the cash to roll in.

>>5797274
>must be ethnically Filipino
>must be fluent in Filipino and English
>must be a woman
very very tiny group they're shooting for there jesus christ

https://twitter.com/mauthe_doog/status/1409688110183555074
Mau wrote another article you guys might like.

>>5797918
Not that small. English is a very common second language after all even in that part of the world due to its association with higher education.

I know what vroid is limiting and its easier to just pay money for model but goddammit some people do such are nice models in this program like you wouldn't guess it's vroid.

>>5797997
>here's a guide how to network
>posted by someone with 600 followers and 15 interactions on it
jesus come on, why is it that literally every one of these is from someone who isn't even successful themselves?

>>5797918
the philippines has one of the highest percentage of english speakers in the world iirc; if they need to know tagalog and they're interacting with vtuber communities, they probably know english.

>>5798073
kek I was just about to say

>>5798187
it reminds me of that one Slugma girl that wvt posts around
her entire content is saying how to be a successful vtuber but all of her viewers are vtubers tuning in for tips, and she has barely any non vtuber viewers
literal fucking Multi Level Marketing shit

>>5798270
that's kind of a disingenuous argument because slugma doesn't care about herself being a successful vtuber. she's in charge of making the tsunderia talents be successful, which she does pretty well.

>>5798270
Kek, welcome to youtube/streaming anon. Some people's entire careers are "educating" others in how to grow their own career.

>>5798346
>she's in charge of making tsunderia talents successful
she needs to try harder then kek

>>5798270
Why she gave the sexiest design to her own self and not to her talents.

Hey, I'm new to this thing. I wanna become a vtuber, how do I make a 3D avatar for myself? What are the best voice changing softwares? Thank u.

>>5798565
Vroid if you're brand spanking new.
Blender if you're skilled (use .vrm format).

Alright fags, I'm curious. So many of you want voice-changers or want to be mute vtubers. Let me hear your voices, let's post some vocaroos.

>>5798663
>mute vtubers
That's a thing? Wtf why?

>>5798730
people are lazy

>>5798730
literally just browsing the vtuber section on twitch you see a lot of them.

I fully blame Zentraya. She was the example that proved you didn't need to use your real voice as a vtuber which snowballed into people saying "yeah I'm just gonna be a mute for my stream"

>>5798663
I wager a good chunk of that is down to the whole "women enjoy a huge advantage in the industry" angle

>>5798663
https://voca.ro/18U3seniqVvi
Might as well

2D or 3D?
>>5797737
As of this post, there are 256 vtuber streams with 20+ viewers

>>5798821
You know I must confess to being impressed by how they're able to manage their 3D model and type so quickly.
Plus they're really good at manipulating their TtS program into saying things that the chat finds funny

>>5798891
>You know I must confess to being impressed by how they're able to manage their 3D model and type so quickly.
It's a two person job. If I remember correctly, it's a couple that runs it, so someone is doing the 3d model while the other types (because you can physically see her hands tracked by the model, there's no other way to use tts unless by some shitty voice to text software).

That's often why "she" reacts strongly to when her tts breaks, because the person in front of the virtual camera isn't in charge of the voice.

>>5796750
>>5797268
Based.
If I personally become finally able to start vtubing, after taking a little art reps and game dev detour I planned, I will also focus to stream old, weird and obscure games, some of them not even recorded and uploaded once or completed by a channel before so far I can tell.

>>5791465
>mfw actually really enjoy watching Haruka, but realize that you need a very specific group of people to collab with her since she's like 12/10 loud as fuck chaotic dumbass energy at all times
For collabs its important to know the 'energies' of everyone and how they'll play off each other.

>>5798891
I watched a bit of her collab with Haruka and Froot when they played halo, and she was using TTS even mid-match. I honestly wonder if she uses speech-to-text, which is then turned into TTS. Would free up her hands.

>>5799012
Ah, that would work out too.

>>5762838
Source on that pic?

>>5799024
>some of them not even recorded and uploaded once or completed by a channel before so far I can tell.
Same. I have so many games that I want to show off that I don't think the internet has seen for at least 10-15 years.

>>5799012
Interesting if true.
So the question becomes what their motivation is? Since their behaviour and moves to date suggest they view it as a business. Wonder what their revenue stream looks like.

>>5799059
>>5799012
>voice to text
nah, impossible. She makes the average amount of typos/errors for someone typing messages on the fly, but with any decent speech to text software, that would be way WAY more common, considering how shit most programs are.

This anon is almost 100% right >>5799012. A two person job, someone else is doing all the typing, and the zentraya virtual actor is probably guiding them on what to type.

Do you folks reckon theres any room for a vtuber taking time to try and discuss anything meaningful with their chat?
I've something of a passion for philosophy, history and political theory. I doubt most would find anything like that entertaining though.

>>5799182
sure, as long as you moderate your chat properly because it's a bannable offense if you don't.

>>5799182
I touch on it occasionally, but only in the context of how the industrial revolution was a disaster for the human race.

>>5799182
yes, it's called a podcast

>>5799115
>So the question becomes what their motivation is?
Probably a decent income. She's up there as one of the most popular english vtubers (especially outside of hololive). I wager that she was created by a couple that already had plenty of experience in streaming + 3d model making and tracking, so to them it could easily be a cheap hobby that only required a little work in designing a character for. Now that it's taken off, it's probably just a fulltime job.

>>5799182
this honestly >>5799246

Personally I don't see any politics/philosophy vtubers making it far. The vtuber audience is very different compared to a regular twitch audience that might be able to stomach that stuff.

I do think simply talking about history would be a very fun vtuber idea, but throwing political theory and philosophy into the mix sounds boring as fuck, especially as a live streamer. Whose gonna watch it?

>>5799148
> and the zentraya virtual actor is probably guiding them on what to type.
Like using dictation I'd imagine.

>>5799182
What? That's somewhat common. Talking streams can become this all the time. Watame is a therapy sheep, basically, and Polka does all kinds of random deep thoughts and reading books from what I've heard. Though how much of those are carried by people already being large fans of them, I'm not sure. Just starting off as a nobody doing those topics may be hard to find ground.

>>5797873
Please don't tell me your same anon.
If you are, clearly the message didn't go through.
If you're this fucking deadset on being vtuber just for money, my only advice would be to be as shameless as you can be.
React to vtuber clips, pester other vtubers/clippers to point they have to talk to you, milk the shit out the lastest game, life hacks, top 10 videos, tik tok, pander to kids, shitty memes, talk about the lastest drama, giveways etc.
Can't say it will work for a vtuber or even get you long time fans, but it will get 100% get you attention.

Meh, the vtuber life is really appealing to me and I love watching vtubers, the thought of becoming one just crossed my mind right now but then I remembered that, despite having some talents like drawing and playing an instrument, I just can't talk to a crowd, you know? I can't entertain them for hours, I'm very shy and anti-social. In the end this career doesn't suit me I guess, but oh boy it does look like a dream. Good luck for anyone that tries to follow that path!

>>5799356
>Like using dictation I'd imagine.
Like literally talking to them. Like two people in the same room puppeteering the character we know as Zen.

>>5799063
That's even something I want to intertwine with myself, that why I want to learn and create my first small game. If it will get some user discovery and downloads, I'm even endorsing the idea of picking a character I will have created for it and turn them into a vtuber. But till then it's better said than done.

>>5799372
End of the day it is a business.
And the ones who treat it as such are the ones doing well.

>>5799466
>that why I want to learn and create my first small game
based. I've done a little bit of indie-game developing so I definitely think that I'm gonna make some small games on stream eventually (plus that looks great on an audition resume when you mention that you literally program video games).

>>5799373
Anon, remember, Pekora is also shy and anti-social and she’s one of the biggest Vtubers in the world

>>5799373
Unironically just talk to yourself whenever you're alone. It helps you get use to your own voice and how to make yourself sound the way you want to, throw in recording your own voice as you talk and imagining actual conversations with people is good too. There is no shame in being shy or anti-social, there is shame in remaining that way if you don't want to be or it effects your day to day life negatively.

>>5798891
Zen doesn't type, she uses a professional program that records her speech, translates it to text, then feeds it to her text to speech program

>>5799058
gonna be honest i just found it by googling "anime girl at computer"

>>5799373
Based advice >>5799596. I've gotten in the habit of talking to myself as I play games, even just about random topics not specifically related to the game itself.

I also love talking to myself in the car about inane shit. You just gotta practice anon.

>>5799399
>>5799356
you idiots do realize that lawyers and other professions have dictation programs that take speech and translate it into 99% accurate text right?

>>5799556
>filename
That's Prinz Eugen, you uncultured swine.
To that anon deadset on jumping in to be a vtuber for the money, gotta agree with what other anon said about being shameless about it. You will get attention, but I can guarantee it will die fast and you'll be branded a ngmi,a pest or a leech. Clickbaiters and flagrant attention whores are annoying as they are, with vtubing it's only gonna make it more annoying.

>added hat to design
>design now look more refined and finished
thank you hat

lol why are you lot way more chill and easier to hang around with than the rest of /vt/. Like outside of Zylphe posting anonymously, /asp/ seems to be the only thread on /vt/ lacking any schizos.

>>5798663
I've posted before, including in this thread, I'm the barbershop anon. Here's a mix of stuff:

Shine on Me (barbershop):
https://voca.ro/14dl5cxzdlCv

Silver Threads Among the Gold (barbershop, with a filter applied to make it sound like a beat up old shellac 78):
https://voca.ro/19TrmZUUxRCp

Tenor solo from Brahms' Neue Liebeslieder (classical):
https://voca.ro/1CHb2k0gyZ2w

An Die Musik (classical music):
https://vocaroo.com/18TPbg3sqddf

Sir Gawain and the Green Knight (reading):
https://voca.ro/1aVgCU6ZRo7E

>>5799373
You could always go minimum-investment and give it a shot. Draw yourself a PNG, grab a headset mic, try it out. I’m terrible at public speaking but my nerves calm down a lot when I’m streaming.

>>5800143
holy shit, good stuff anon; your barbershop stuff was great but the opera is really blowing me away

>>5800143
I want to sing with you friend

>>5800456
Thanks! I'm pleasantly surprised at the number of decent quality backing tracks available for free online. I recorded that An Die Musik for one of these threads the other day. The Brahms was from a performance pre pandemic. I think that kind of singing could definitely set me up in a niche among vtubers.

>>5800525
If you can read sheet music, I can drop a link to something. Sing the lead, post the vocaroo, and I'll download it, record the other three parts, mix it, and post the vocaroo.

>>5800709
ahhh fuck now I feel shy
I didn't think you would actually say yes...

>>5800143
God damn it. I guess I have to get a job now so that I can simp for you.

I've mostly just been lurking here reading and occasionally posting, but I'm finally going for my first stream. I doubt it'll go well, but I'm done being a lil bitch baby so I'm just going for it to start getting used to streaming already

>>5799933
Yeah no long time fans, but you'll get views, and then ads which means money. If you try to hide your shame you can maybe get fans. Like those drama vtubers.

>>5799556
Again I would disagree with you. The top vtubers at the moment seem to like what they are doing. Yes hololive is a business but they enjoy what they do, Coco is quiting because she can't make what she wants not because the money is drying up.
And no need call me salty anon I was trying help you out, everyone else just told you fuck off. You asked for advice so I did, do it and you could be seeing views maybe in a few months.

Zentreya is Voice to Text to Speech, there's another older VRChat streamer that does the exact same thing.

>>5800799
Give it a shot! Can't hurt.
https://www.barbershoptags.com/tag-9-Lonely-for-You-Am-I

>>5800873
Thanks anon! If I don't get into NijiEn or Tsunderia, I'm probably going to start streaming independently anyways. I want to share the things I think are fun with people.

>>5798270
shes just jusagi with a better model

>>5800884
i'd say post your link so i can watch but i have to step out in a couple of minutes but if you're doing a test stream drop a link anyway because someone else might stop by and support you and let you know things are working correctly

>>5791465
>they did everything wrong and it still was a hit people loved, pulling in thousands upon thousands of viewers regardless of the huge problems

...ok?

>NijiEN application asks if you have access to good internet 24/7
>reply I don't at the moment but I'm gonna have it relatively soon
This is getting me paranoid over being rejected because of this answer. I already settled stuff down and gonna have high speed internet this thursday, but I applied back when I was looking for a decent ISP.

>>5799202
Not this shit again

>>5801302
Could you not have waited or would auditions be over by then?

>>5799182
political theory twitch streams are a bad bad idea
Hasan Piker only gets away with it because he used to be a literal cable news talking head and is incredibly hot

>>5801031
not that anon b-but i also want to sing with you...
i'm in a rush so i did one take of the bass part
https://voca.ro/1elecOwD516N

>>5801342
I was having a really hard time finding an ISP that covered the area I'm moving into since it's a really new neighborhood. In fact, I sent my application in a bit of a panic because worst case scenario I would be flat out without internet and would only get high speed connection if I soehow struck a "work at home" job and, at best, be stuck with limited, satelital internet.

>>5801362
There's a Vtuber who does political theory streams that exists already

>>5801362
not to mention the amount of hate you'd get. Inevitably you'd be pissing someone off (I mean just look at breadtube discourse as it is)

>>5801512
Hate to say it anon, but internet is literally the one requirement you need as a streamer. If you genuinely can't get reliable internet, then you should probably focus on something other than twitch.

>>5801362
>>5801612
https://twitter.com/EristocracyTV/

Honestly there's no real reason to even bother doing it. While Hasan isn't the only one, there's really no reason to watch. Most people who watch him aren't even there for that, he's just made his way into the top of Twitch and has a lot of fairly normal viewers that just happen to be lefties because he's entertaining. Eristocracy grabs all the weebs but most people won't take you seriously with an anime avatar

I did it. Just posted my submission for the nijisanji application. I actually sang a duet and voiced both the male and female parts. I get mistaken for a girl irl sometimes so I guessed why not. Hopefully that will get me bonus points. Kek. Wishing everyone else good luck.

>>5801771
That's the entire point, making people outrage is part of what gets you views in that field.

>>5801808
That's the thing, I did find an ISP with a good internet plan at that. I will have the thing going by thursday, so that requirement is pretty much covered.

I made some Twitch panels from a commissioned piece and it looks really cute. That's all I wanted to say.

>>5802091
Good for you, anon.

>>5801379
Here you go, anon!

https://voca.ro/1ezQy3tVwQLj

If you want some general unsolicited singing advice, take bigger, diaphragmatic breaths breaths, and take your time. But most of all, enjoy yourself! Singing with other people is the best.

>>5801771
Breadtube gets outrage and says extreme and crazy shit on purpose because it gets them attention and money.
If you're morally bankrupt, joining that crowd will make you rich. You don't have to believe any of it, most of them don't because the ideas they espouse are crazy extremism anyway

>>5802659
>>5801871
To me I just hate the idea of constantly having beef or drama with someone. It seems like the perfect avenue if you want to constantly worry about your channel getting deplatformed.

>To me I just hate the idea of constantly having beef or drama with someone. It seems like the perfect avenue if you want to constantly worry about your channel getting deplatformed.

Unless you're a rapist or a pedophile it won't happen. I know not many people watch normal streamers here, but part of what keeps them going is drama, big, small, or just ironic. With other streamers, with other youtubers, other content creators in general. It's been a lot of the LSF content for a while too.

>chat keep asking to make own discord channel
How do i politely explain what i think what discord is shit?

There doesn't seem to be a lot of male vtubers. I wonder if that's an untapped market.

>>5803162
/asp/ gen 2 is kinda doing that right now

>>5803086
idk, what makes discord is shit?

>>5803086
You don't, because discords are a great way to interact and keep your community engaged with you and with one another. It's a bullet you have literally no choice but to bite because without it you're just handicapping yourself.

>>5803086
do the Terumi thing, have your community make a discord server but let them know it's not official and that you're not going to make it official.

>>5803185
in b4 "you can get caught being a pedo, asshole, or other avoidable thing so its bad!"

>>5803185
moderating it

>>5803086
Just be honest.

>>5795465
I don't think its only text tho but thanks anyways, anon

>>5803364
anon she's literally typing it in the video as she finishes each song, how did you even find this screenshot if you didn't bother watching?

>>5803185
>>5803220
All the drama leaks from discord and I don't have time to moderate it nor i feel like i can trust anyone to do it for me. Also my autism makes me scared of interacting with many unknown people back to back even if they're my viewers to the point i would probably abandon my own server. Discord is just not type of thing what use.
>>5803217
Thank you that's good advice. I think I'll stick with allowing fan discord.

Where can I get art commissions for those Walfie-style scuffed doodles? I'm expecting them to be fairly cheap, and just want a bunch of scuffed pictures to use in my schedule, memes, and overlays.

>>5803162
There are literally hundreds. Please, familiarize yourself with the Big List.

Who hard is to make a Vtuber agency?

>>5803721
Is your design cute? Maybe I could do one for you really quick

My model is paid for and set to be complete by the end of July.
I've found 4-5 riggers that do amazing work but they're all booked up till 2022. I found the perfect one today who only charges $800 for full body rigging and now I'm just hoping my model is done before he gets noticed by a big VTuber and ends up booked for half a year as well.

>>5804482
Good luck, anon. I'm in the stages of waiting for my model to be completed as well. I'm looking at a few riggers myself, but haven't committed to one yet, so I'm just hoping they don't fill up their slots by the time it's done.

>>5804166
as hard as running a real business and moreso than not "a big sweaty pain"
t. knows someone that worked during an agency's startup

>>5803086
>>5803189
I hate Discord and Reddit but I know those are bullets I'll have to bite at some point.

>>5805352
Make a Reddit account with your user so no one else does at least. Discord fucking sucks but it can be a good spot to have a post that's hard to miss whether it's from viewer or chuuba

>>5805065
Best of luck to you too. Hopefully it will work out for both of us.

>>5800884
>>5801070
Just finished up my first stream, wasn't too bad or at least I don't think it was too bad. Here's the link in case anyone wants to see me spaghetti all over myself for like a second or two
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLLs88KwAQU

>>5805805
you've got 100+ views on a stream you just wrapped up 2 hours ago with 10k+ subscribers, you're doing better than literally every single /asp/ie here. go shill yourself in /wvt/

>>5805852
Got it. I'm just an autist when it comes to knowing where to go and when

>>5805852
he has 10k subs because the account is 9 years old anon...

>>5805805
Oh, you! I remember you posted your design a month or so ago, good to see that you're starting up with the streams! It's helpful that you have such a big starting base; judging by that viewcount it should be helpful for once you make your full debut.
>>5802325
Thank you for the advice! I was in a rush when I recorded it, but yeah I really do have to practice better breathing when I sing. I do love singing with others though and it would be fun to be able to do a singing collab with people here!

>>5778353
Applications close for this August 7th 11:59PM PDT. I don’t know if they said that anywhere.