/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>57509875
Sana doesn't count, she's graduated

>>57509946
>Over a year since the last sana stream
When is she coming back, bros?

Sounds like you have a seething, mindbroken and rent free problem. Might want to take your meds.

>>57509875
Entitled western women not wanting to work, but still want to be paid? A tale as old as time.

>>57509875
>Most JP don't have that issue

>>57509875
Mumei is literally streaming right now to 20k viewers

>>57510216
Bait

Paypigs still love them why bother putting more effort as long cash money flowing in

streaming a lot ≠ working hard

someone like Kaela will not be remembered for anything whe she eventually graduates because her streams don't respect your time and that's a fact

>>57509875
They're grifters. Simple as.

I don't think it's a coincidence that it's ONLY the mutts that have this issue. The one American who'se lived in Japan for years doesn't. The Austrian doesn't. The Asian duo doesn't.

>>57509875
Western women are lazy and entitled.

>>57510879
Fucking retard. Kaela does idol reps offstream, she would be streaming a lot more if she didn't.

>>57509875
moom and gura don't need to stream, they're as popular as JP members

>>57509875
>Kronii spent the last month in japan with all of Council and JP-senpai avaiable
>she did 2 collabs with ENs and 0 with JPs
Why does she hate streaming AND her JP-senpai?

>>57514148
Kronii has been living in the studio these past few months anon.

>>57514306
That means we will see a lot of prerecorded content from her in coming months right? RIGHT?

>>57514414
And when it does come, you'll just say "oh she could have recorded that at home yesterday."
Either way, you'll still be a giant pissbaby.

>>57513752
>they're as popular as JP members
Maybe Gura as the mascot of Hololive even though it doesn't reflect onher CCV, but Mumei? She would be a low tier JP at most and what with that "they don't need to stream" JPs who are 10 times more popular than them still stream daily while having 10 times more recordings and other shits. If it wasn't for JPs working hard to keep Hololive relevant the ungrateful ENs wouldn't be able to act lazy like that.

>>57514414
Yes, but you will find more thing to complain about then.

>>57515271
>>57515404
Prerecorded contents are mostly recorded 2 months before the actual stream so she should have already delivered content at this point. And even without it's impossible she's spending so much time in the studio unless she's preparing at least 2 live concerts and a tons of covers and orisongs but with even with all that work she probably still have a lot of time to stream if she wants.

>>57509875
>Most JP don't have that issue

>>57515665
>I like to talk out my ass
very cool

>>57510380
proof?

>>57520277
The average JP streams way more than the average EN

>>57509875
Sana really needs to stream, it's been a while

>>57522679

>>57511823
you will never be japanese

>>57522872
Can you even read retard? What do you think "average" means? Ayame is not the average JP.

>>57509875
In a word?

Corporations

>>57510003
Cover shareholders unironically would want this, along with Rushia, Coco, Aloe, and probably even Chris

>>57511823
Sana...
Ayame...
Shion...

>>57522679
Can you give a numerical statistic on this? Tangible math please? Objective calculations?

>>57511823
just because it's Risu doesn't mean i wouldn't anti her anon

>>57522872
Do your statistics reps retard

>>57509875
missing the green one

>>57523145
Honestly a replacement Sana could only be an improvement over v1.0

>>57509875
>Ina
Doesn't like her fanbase. This much should be obvious to anyone who knows how adverse Ina is to lewd stuff and how Takos are known for being extremely horny.
>Gura
Her enthusiasm for streaming died the moment her fans turned on her and made it crystal clear that they did not want to see her do react/meme content.
>Ame
Lost enthusiasm once she realized she was the only one really into VR stuff and most people don't really want to watch it outside of fuckery with collabs which rarely happen in VR due to the aforementioned disinterest.
>Kronii
Low energy in general.
>Mumei
Controlling parents. Her mother is extremely insistent about her finishing her education so she can get a "real job" someday. Combined with all the off-stream shit that has to be done for idol stuff she now has very little time to actually stream.
>Sana
It should be obvious that the whole vtuber thing isn't what she thought it would be. She wanted out.

>>57509875
it doesn't get noticed enough but they genuinely have imposter syndrome. they think their streams are shit.
it's why gura and mumei always come back with some white girl karaoke stream. it's the only thing where they feel confident. it's why watson only feels good if it's some bullshit "creative" stream idea. It's why Ina doesn't stream unless she has some stories from Japan or some shit. they don't think their ordinary streams are good, they think they are shit, and not on the level of streamers kiara or fauna who talk freely, fill the dead air and create clippable moments. They feel bad about what they do on screen, and they feel inadequate, and it wears them down quickly. It's the entire reason Sana quit as well.

>>57509875
Gura has fuck you money, sana graduated, i dont watch ame, ina and kronii stream.

>>57509875
they're all busy on projects. you'll see. just wait 6 months and you'll be drowning in new content.

>>57530990
>they think their streams are shit
By most entertainment standards they fucking are, all most of HoloEN has going for them is being cute girls and they regularly act out against that image.

>>57530990
I think their viewers are quite forgiving. They streamed more in the past and people watched it. And Mumei's recent streams are boring to me.

>>57509875
Fuck you, my back hurts

>>57523145
What numbers would an Aloe return get? You get fans, antis, tourists, saviorfags. Who WOULDN'T turn up for it?

>>57529994
What did she think it would be?

>>57534028
Probably didn't expect all the behind-the-scenes work. A lot of people think being in a company like Hololive means being lazy/sleeping for 20 hours a day and hopping on to stream for 4 hours a few times per week.

>>57509875
>all of them white or korean
hmmm

>>57509875
They are western women anon (Korea is part of the west since the 50s). Asian women will always be superior

>>57509875
>the only one who loves streaming is eu
>cover doesn't hire eu

>>57509875
Fuck you, teehee!

>>57523145
>Cover shareholders want Coco
LMAOOOO
You mean the same shareholders who want her gone?

>>57509875
They don't hate streaming per se. Just you. EN chuubas would gladly stream for chads but they don't watch women pretending to be anime girls so...

>>57523145
The shareholders unironically proposed going back to CN and Yagoo had to explain to them that was impossible

>>57528956
He's not, actually, the green one is roughly around where IRyS is this year and outstreams 20 JPs including all of Gen 5 (Polka is on page 2)
>>57522679
JP (and ID) are both heavily skewed by top performers, they have tons of people who have EN-tier or lower hours. Suisei streamed less that Gura this year, think about how grim that is.

That's why i only watch 30+ year old chuubas. Ultimate fucking hag supremacy, can make anything sound good. Literally tells me how her day went and makes it sound interesting.

>>57510879
>shitalkin 'ela

>>57509875
contempt for their audience

>>57528956
Fauna streamed like last week

>>57540372
Saplings can't stop winning...

>>57543257
earlier this week you mean
"when someone last streamed" is a dumb metric anyway because it doesn't account for breaks and streaky streamers. mumei has streamed for the last 3 days in a row for example

>>57540372
This list has to be wrong. No Gura.

>>57540372
>Suisei streamed less that Gura this year
Your pic literally says otherwise

>>57530990
They’re right but should still stream though

>>57544052
It's ranked by hours watched, but it's common knowledge what Suisei does offstream, and she delivers on it. What Gura does when she's not in Japan recording cameos in other Holo 3D Lives is still a mystery.

>>57529994
>"real job"
Yup, Mumei should definitely drop her easy 6 figures career for some soul crushing office job. Especially considering how sickly she apparently is. Best mom.

>>57540372
EN's actual problem was being stuck at 10 streamers for 2 years, so if half of them were doing their idol reps, 3 of them were sick or dealing with private issues, and 2 of them were just feeling lazy, the fans are going to notice the dead days. Not saying HoloEN should accelerate without thoroughly vetting their applicants, but most complaints about this would go away if they'd been more diligent about finding new gens.

>>57528956
Fauna loves streaming, August was particularly rough on her because of Japan arc, she still tried to at least do short streams to keep people updated.

>>57529994
tbf, entertainment jobs are not looking good, for the workers, in the future

>>57545447
Most jobs aren't looking good. So much shit is being automated that global income is going to have to become the norm. There literally isn't enough for ~7 billion people to do.

>>57540372
invest in fucking marinecoin holy SHIT

>>57543425
she still has decent times is what im saying. Not overwhelming, but she doesn't just vanish

>>57545574
i completely agree, except for the universal basic income
we are so fucked lmao

>>57510171
Everyone would want to get paid for not working.

>>57510216
>>57510380
Reminder that EN actually has higher average stream hours / month per chuuba than JP. JPs just have way more members to cover for each other so individual absences aren't as easily noticeable

>>57546493
Wrong.

>>57511823
>The Asian duo
anon...

>>57546556
Picrel is comparison between JP, ID and EN. It's a bit outdated (Jun 2023), but EN's average should be even higher now with the addition of Advent

>>57510171
They do work, they're just reluctant to do any overtime. Streams are not their priority, events are

>>57509875
Their numbers are down so they stream less, and is why Mumei only uses more popular content in order to hide it.
Gura is just lazy.

>>57540372
Mori and Kiara stream the most in the branch while releasing albums worth of music and attending about as many live concerts and official events as Gura and examples for Advent

truly the cream of HoloEN

Why not just... watch other vtubers? There's literally thousands of them out there, some even with the same appeal.

>>57546959
>truly the cream of HoloEN and examples for Advent*
line skipped up for some reason

>>57546795
>Their numbers are down
That's just Western vtubing in general. It's still extremely popular in Japan but the bubble burst last year for the West.
>>57546966
Discoverability is a huge problem now that the market is so saturated. Corporate debuts don't necessarily get a lot of views because of corporate tribalism, they get a lot of views because they're given a ton of visibility. It's basically impossible to get naturally discovered on YouTube and Twitch is almost as bad as Reddit when it comes to "cater to the lowest common denominator or be left behind" metrics.

>>57519612
Her genmates can stream just fine, even when they are also busy recording something for their project.

What kronii excuse?

>>57547192
>That's just Western vtubing in general.
I know, and it doesn’t contradict anything I said. I think Twitch may have some EN stability though, at least when compared to YouTube. But I haven’t watched it closely enough to be certain.

penis

>be lazy western woman
>get a crap ton of money for playing pretend gf for spergs, cucks and virgins
>make bank and be empowered therefore stop giving a shit
Holofags are ATMs

>>57529994
>the moment her fans turned on her
Why even ask if you'll only accept a yes?

>>57545447
Are you actually retarded?
>muh AI
Yes, that's going to replace you and 50 million other Joe Shmoes, not top Holo talents with thousands of existing fans. You don't seem to understand why people are giving them money.

>>57551197
She was most likely expecting the results to be a bit more split which would have given her an excuse to test the waters but it was a near unanimous "fuck no."

>>57529994
Lol chumpedos did something good

>>57510003
STREAM THIS

>>57510216

Advent doesn't have this problem.

>>57511823
>1 month in
>still thinks the duo is asian
can you even qualify as a threadreader at this point?

>>57528956
>WE ARE NOT FRIENDS

>>57523932
>hated streaming
>office lady (seriously, every Koro and Lui story about going to the office involves eating a meat with Ayame)
>student

>wah they don't stream enough
>*members start streaming more*
>"WTF TOO MUCH STREAMING"
this is your mindset.

>>57509875
They don't hate streaming. (You) are just a faggot.

>>57554349
>>57546660
I meant IRyS and Bae faggots

FuwaMoco stream a lot.

>>57556233
For now

>>57556787
And if you knew about them, you would know they are going to be pretty consistent for their whole time.

>>57547192
>anons are drama sisters when the girls aren’t streaming 24/7 (outside some true lazy folks like gura)
>can’t put in any effort to find the 1-2 views with such schedules

>>57546231
Nigger detected.

>>57546556
Nah, you are. Objectively.

>>57522872
>>57552457
You guys wouldn't call Ayame lazy if you saw how she worked my cock. No hiatuses there.

>>57509875
lazyness culture

Twisting OP's meaning around a bit, are there any tubas left who focus on edited video content, more like a regular youtuber, primarily over streams?

>>57562593
Sorry, but unless you were a vtuber fan during the times before Nijisanji and Hololive, that's mostly a dead concept.

EN viewers don’t care to watch streams. You have plenty of EN chuubas who stream 13 hours daily but EN viewers don’t care to watch livestreams. I literally wake up, turn on my oshi’s stream while I get ready for work, listen to the stream at work, get home and keep watching. She’s literally like a wife to her viewers because plenty of them start their day, go through their day and end their day with her and she constantly remembers which of us are at work and what our jobs are so she tells us she loves us and hopes we have a good day at work. Hell she even started getting lunch delivered to our jobs if we were okay with sending her such personal information. Bros I think I’m in too deep…a chuuba is spending money on me and others, are we being groomed?

>>57511823
>The asian duo
If you’re talking about FWMC, they’re not Asian

JP is easily the worst branch when it comes to streaming. They just have way more members which obscures the fact that they have a ton of lazy bums.

penis