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>> No.57447246
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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

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>>57447228
> Vtuber Chinese

>> No.57447252
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>>57447228
>tit monster Miku

>> No.57447256

>>57447201
Yeah because if its supposed to be a big event with money involved, then naturally it should be PPV.
No one wants to pay money to watch e-sports though.

>> No.57447257

>>57447228
Miku sexo

>> No.57447260

>>57447179
they sometimes get discussed in /uoh/ because the majority of them are cunnies, especially Awawa, Niina, and Ume (my wife)

>> No.57447266

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d_fXI-7fW0
Bring her back YAGOO she will gladly join the HLZNTL team now.

>> No.57447269

>>57447164
Oh, I am not disagreeing here (or even interested). My advice is more on the level of passion you should invest in the subject.
People dedicating this much time and energy dwelling on it are clearly in need of meds and some in this thread schizo so hard people already managed to recognize them by the context of their sperg alone.
If you are not one of those already, take a giant chill pill lest you become one

>tldr: INGEST YOUR MEDICINE!

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57447272

?

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>>57447228
Recent clip numbers
>>57445516
>>57445541
>>57445604
>>57445636
>>57445669

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So what did we learn from the last thread anons?

>> No.57447293

>>57447266
Kek, will she explain her thought process behind that Apex collab thingy?

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>[insert smug shitpost here]

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57447295

Minna-san, why are you so uppity about HLZNTL?
Eh? Don't tell me you're going to watch Nijicucks and Vspocucks instead?
Thought so!

>> No.57447296

>>57447260
Take the hint. If you like them, don't ever try to "shill" them in this thread,
So far the only thing that resulted was to attract schizos to people that would otherwise be ignored completely

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>HOLOLIVE BOARD
>HOLOLIVE THREAD

>> No.57447300

>>57447279
Varium = Good

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>>57447272

>> No.57447303

The retweets are quite something, and on that topic, i'm starting to feel like i as an audience member is slowly being marketed more and more "Cover" products rather than the talents themselves lately

>> No.57447305

https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1697187517735571800
The most amazing thing is that so many people are criticizing the project using the same account they use to follow holo regularly. Even when you see nips complaining and criticizing directly on twitter, it's NEVER with a main account like that. They always use throwaway accounts or schizoposting accounts.

>> No.57447304

Enjoy your yearly Mario Kart tournament being replaced by one with the homos involved. But don't worry, they won't be on VC together!

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i enjoy funposting while using mumei images.
i'm not a hooman.

this is my confession that will soon disappear into nothingness

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* YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY *
>47,216: Pekora (Hololive)
>41,070: Aruse Inu (Neo-Porte)
>32,789: Miko (Hololive)
>30,553: Suisei (Hololive)
>30,401: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>29,710: Okayu (Hololive)
>23,265: Mito (Nijisanji)
>21,053: Shion (Hololive)
>20,444: Subaru (Hololive)
>17,986: Hololive (Hololive)
>15,725: Fubuki (Hololive)
>15,649: AZKi (Hololive)
>15,589: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>12,023: Nene (Hololive)
>11,858: Fuwamoco (Hololive)
>11,735: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>11,411: Furen (Nijisanji)
>11,364: Bae (Hololive)
>11,289: Kaela (Hololive)
>11,080: Kou (Nijisanji)
>10,921: Chiroru (Indie)
>10,632: Koyori (Hololive)
>10,465: Hinano (VSPO)
>10,241: Kuramochi Meruto (Nijisanji)

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>>57447266
No

>> No.57447317

>>57447200
It did get 15k though
>>57447078
Also we're still talking about it in the /miComet/ thread

>> No.57447328

>>57447279
It's over for holokek

>> No.57447334

>>57447295
fuck off, beggar

>> No.57447335

The holizontal tweet replies look grim desu senpai
My notification is being flooded by artists retweeting posts that are critical of this project too, indicating their stance.

>> No.57447339

>>57447269
Hololive makes me feel.
Any meds that would affect my behaviour is not good for consuming hololive content.

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>>57447311
>AUGUST 2023 GOLDS
1) Miko (Hololive) - 148,555 - Anniversary 3D Live
2) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 53,484 - Radio Program
3) Yashiro (Nijisanji) - 57,320 - Koshien Practice
4) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 51,111 - Koshien Practice
5) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 81,637 - Nijifes Announcement
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 104,044 - Mario Party (w/ Marine, Kanata, Koyori)
7) Flare (Hololive) - 55,591 - Anniversary Totsumachi
8) Noel (Hololive) - 91,382 - Anniversary 3D Live
9) Rikiichi (Nijisanji) - 39,244 - Koshien Siren Competition
10) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 94,194 - Koshien Pre-Tournament Stream
11) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 206,963 - Koshien A League
12) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 215,338 - Koshien B League
13) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 254,415 - Koshien Finals
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 66,070 - Fate/Grand Order
15) Aqua (Hololive) - 124,725 - Anniversary 3D Live
16) Pekora (Hololive) - 42,994 - Only Up
17) Shion (Hololive) - 95,618 - Anniversary 3D Live
18) Maimoto (Nijisanji) - 180,341 - Graduation Bait
19) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 134,582 - Koshien Highlights
20) Mio (Hololive) - 70,279 - Birthday 3D Live
21) Tsukasa Tenkai (Indie) - 47,437 - Mahjong League
22) Suisei (Hololive) - 36,637 - Summer Bingo
23) Pekora (Hololive) - 88,387 - Offcollab (w/ Marine, Aqua, Suisei)
24) Toya (Nijisanji) - 56,848 - Outfit Reveal
25) Hololive (Hololive) - 66,734 - Holosummer
26) Hololive (Hololive) - 54,204 - Splash Party Loading Screen
27) Hololive (Hololive) - 162,444 - Splash Party Day 1
28) Mysta (Nijisanji) - 61,853 - Graduation Stream Part 2
29) Pekora (Hololive) - 37,723 - Minecraft Summer Festival
30) Pekora (Hololive) - 47,216 - Fate/Grand Order Gacha

>PER COMPANY
16x: Hololive
13x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
6x: Nijisanji, Pekora
3x: Hololive
1x: Aqua, Flare, Fuwa, Ibrahim, Maimoto, Miko, Mio, Mysta, Noel, Rikiichi, Shion, Suisei, Toya, Tsukasa, Yashiro

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
165x: Hololive
60x: Nijisanji
8x: Indie
5x: VSPO
4x: Neo Porte

>PER STREAMER
57x: Pekora
20x: Miko
16x: Marine
9x: Nijisanji
8x: Subaru, Toya
7x: Hololive
6x: Kuzuha, Suisei
5x: Aqua, Yashiro
4x: Hal, Mio, Shiina, Towa
3x: Chiroru, Fuwa, Iroha, Leos, Okayu, Koyori
2x: Aki, Flare, Fubuki, Hinano, Ibrahim, Korone, Lamy, Lui, Maimoto, Nerumero, Salome, Shion, Tsukasa, Watame
1x: Air, Ayame, Beni, Chloe, Choco, Fuwamoco, Gaku, Gura, Gundou, Hibari, Himawari, Ina, Kaede, Kanata, Kanato, Kiara, Laplus, Lize, Mel, Mito, Mori, Mysta, Noel, Nose, Nozomi, Nui, Polka, Ponto, Qpi, Rikiichi, Roco, Ryushen, Ui

>> No.57447347

>>57447272
>IT'S SO OVER

>> No.57447349

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kCzI6xbQoo
Is this good numbers?

>> No.57447355
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Gay as fuck
miComet won

>> No.57447357

but why esports? esports have been dying for some time now

>> No.57447359

Hololive Youtube channel added Hololive DEV_IS to the channel section with other talents. I think 90% it's JP7

>> No.57447366

its been twenty minutes is the miçomet cover over miko's anni song?

>> No.57447375

>>57447305
This
When people use throwaways beggars will say it's an anti so there's no other way to criticize it

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>>57447007
Cover is being dumb by not Acknowledging the criticism that hlzntl has been recieving. The boiling point has already been reached and the nips have been on edge lately, with jp side of management behaving like utter clueless retards. No wonder 5ch was jerkingoff to Jap and FuwaMoco.

>> No.57447378

>>57447357
Because 60 year old men are making the decisions

>> No.57447379

>>57447359
Shitvent status?

>> No.57447381

>>57447294
I've watched the archive, her constant retarded face got replaced by constant smug face

>> No.57447391

This feels like Suisei has a successful music career and Miko is trying to ride her coattails.

>> No.57447395

>>57447162
thought she said she was gonna take a month of hiatus to >reflect or whatever lol
>>57447217
kek wtf

>> No.57447399

>>57447295
If your company goes to shit just jump to the next hobby, this is 2023 there is infinite entertainment online l

>> No.57447401

>>57447312
Onegai Yagoo she will collab with Uproar now.

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*YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN TALLY*

>8/30 DAILY TALLY
11,858: FuwaMoco (Hololive)
10,801: Baelz (Hololive)
9,293: FuwaMoco (Hololive)
8,723: Shiori (Hololive)
8,615: Nerissa (Hololive)
7,704: Bijou (Hololive)
7,007: Vox (Nijisanji)
6,389: Ina (Hololive)
5,985: Luca (Hololive)


>EN GOLDS FOR AUGUST 2023
1) Bijou (Hololive) - 26,316 - American Truck Simulator
2) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 28,132 - FuwaMoco Morning
3) Shiori (Hololive) - 24,103 - Advent Pajama Party
4) Shiori (Hololive) - 31,094 - Unarchived Karaoke
5) Mumei (Hololive) - 36,054 - Birthday Stream
6) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 33,109 - Karaoke Stream
7) Nerissa (Hololive) - 26,823 - Monetization Karaoke
8) Gura (Hololive) - 20,176 - Night Security
9) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 18,197 - Overcooked (w/ Bijou)
10) Fauna (Hololive) - 13,792 - Pokemon Unite Tournament
11) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 16,685 - PHOGS
12) Gura (Hololive) - 20,185 - Phone Games
13) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 28,329 - Karaoke Stream
14) Mori (Hololive) - 19,674 - Offcollab (w/ Marine & Baelz)
15) Bijou (Hololive) - 15,654 - Holocure
16) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 23,148 - Japanese Stream
17) Nerissa (Hololive) - 14,106 - Powerwash Simulator (w/ Baelz)
18) Gura (Hololive) - 15,562 - Holocure
19) Ina (Hololive) - 19,894 - Fate/Grand Order Sponsor (w/ Kronii)
20) IRyS (Hololive) - 53,910 - 3D Showcase
21) Nerissa (Hololive) - 25,408 - Unarchived Karaoke
22) Bijou (Hololive) - 13,661 - Holocure
23) Baelz (Hololive) - 28,034 - CouncilRyS Offcollab Baking
24) Mysta (Nijisanji) - 28,865 - Luxiem Game Show
25) Mysta (Nijisanji) - 50,607 - Luxiem Karaoke
26) Mysta (Nijisanji) - 27,715 - Pre-Graduation Stream
27) Mysta (Nijisanji) - 64,056 - Graduation Stream
28) Mysta (Nijisanji) - 61,853 - Graduation Stream Part 2
29) Fauna (Hololive) - 11,687 - 3D Switch Sports
30) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 11,858 - FuwaMoco Morning

>PER COMPANY
25x: Hololive
5x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
7x: FuwaMoco
5x: Mysta
3x: Bijou, Gura, Nerissa
2x: Fauna, Shiori
1x: Baelz, Ina, IRyS, Mori, Mumei

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
74p: FuwaMoco
29p: Bijou
28p: Mysta
25p: Nerissa
23p: Gura, Shiori
13p: IRyS
11p: Fauna
8p: Baelz, Mumei
7p: Kiara, Mori
6p: Luca
5p: Ina
3p: Kotoka

>> No.57447403

>>57447303
the consequences of going public. all of this happened just to fund a big 3D studio that they can't use anyway.

>> No.57447406

Cover made a big mistake and now is suffering from the recent big expansion and mass hiring they did because they had a big war chest. They are wasting money in flop projects because the new hires in charge of making new things needed to justify their salaries in some way

>> No.57447408

>>57447279
The numbers thread should really be renamed to the overreact for yous thread

>> No.57447410

>>57447355
AAAAIYEEE

>> No.57447413

sponsorship money > stream revenue/talent merch from which Cover get's almost nothing because of cuts
therefore no longer pandering to the core audience/viewer of the individual girls

>> No.57447420
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Here is Matsuri Top 10 so far in her career

>peak :: date :: title :: video_id
>66045 :: 2022-07-22 :: 【#夏色ReSTART】BIRTHDAY 3DLIVE~今日はまつりが主役~ :: oFn0ZypcaM8
>49961 :: 2020-10-28 :: 【新衣装お披露目】本気の新衣装!ラフ案まで全部見せますッ! :: a79OC870YZY
>47673 :: 2021-07-22 :: 【#夏色まつり生誕祭】4回目のバースデー :: C-J0mGVamNc
>46038 :: 2020-07-28 :: 【新live2Dお披露目会】生まれ変わったまつりを見て!! :: g2InKgUPAA4
>40185 :: 2021-12-11 :: 【#冬でも夏色ライブ】寒い冬に夏色を感じませんか!? :: WELdC0CxYFc
>38762 :: 2022-07-09 :: 【第3走者・夏色まつり】1期生Live2Dver3.0お披露目リレー :: KiFOcZA6QvQ
>38334 :: 2022-12-25 :: 【 #ホロクリスマス歌枠リレー 】目指せ5曲歌います/Singing KARAOKE :: 6GWlS05L2D0
>37724 :: 2021-06-04 :: 【#ホロカラ覗き見】ホロライブのカラオケを覗き見!? / 3Dstream :: ZsVnMMOm74Q
>36448 :: 2023-07-30 :: 【#ホロサマ歌枠リレー】水着お披露目!歌枠 :: VRGTsJFIUiM
>30766 :: 2020-07-22 :: 【#夏色まつり誕生祭3D】夏色まつり誕生祭2020本日の主役はこのまつり!! :: bxy2oLe7VwU

Her live is in 35 min or so
>PREDICTIONS?!?

I'll be bold and say it beats 66k but mostly because there is nothing on today

>> No.57447422

>>57447295
Holo fans will continue to watch Hololive. I don't think they gonna watch Nijisanji.

>> No.57447423

>>57447376
the fans will buckle as soon as they see their oshi laughing along with a fleshstreamer. SSRB did it. koronesuki did it. others will follow.

>> No.57447428

>>57447391
other way around
suisei is leeching mikochi

>> No.57447435

>>57445470
>while High profile holos Will steer clear.
I hope they don't. The only way Cover will actually hit the brakes on this stuff is if their top cash cows end up taking a fall for this too. But, as long as the first army is stable then they won't care.

>> No.57447438

>>57447357
Because Cover, sitting on a goldmine sees their competition invest in fancy coal mines where half of them are just for show and they really want some of that coal

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>>57447272
>Cover signed the Illuminati contract
We're declining. Owari Da.

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>>57447404
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
178x: Hololive
60x: Nijisanji
3x: Holostars
1x: Idol

>PER STREAMER
23x: Fauna
21x: Gura, Mori
17x: IRyS, Mumei
14x: Baelz, Ina, Mysta
13x: Kronii
10x: Amelia
9x: Kiara, Vox
8x: FuwaMoco
4x: Bijou, Pomu, Selen, Shu
3x: Nerissa, Nina, Ren
2x: Alban, Finana, Hololive English, Ike, Luca, Shiori, Wilson
1x: Enna, Elira, Flayon, Fulgur, Luxiem, Millie, Petra, Regis, Roca, Rosemi, Sonny, Vesper, Bandage

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
222p: Fauna
166p: Ina
161p: Mori
156p: IRyS
141p: Mumei
129p: Baelz
114p: Gura
105p: Mysta
101p: Kronii
92p: Kiara
83p: Amelia
79p: FuwaMoco
74p: Vox
67p: Luca
37p: Shu
34p: Bijou
31p: Selen
28p: Nerissa
27p: Shiori
25p: Pomu
24p: Nina
19p: Ike
16p: Ren
15p: Enna, Fulgur
14p: Sonny, Uki
13p: Finana, Millie
11p: Axel
10p: Alban, Elira, Hololive English, Wilson
9p: Vesper
7p: Regis
6p: Rosemi, Bandage, Kotoka
5p: Flayon, Luxiem, Petra, Roca
4p: Magni, Bringer
3p: Bettel, Hakka, Poko
1p: Kyo, Maria, Meloco, Shinri, Pippa

>> No.57447447

>>57447357
they fell for the meme
ironically the same year literally everyone else, ESPECIALLY big sponsors are bailing out of esports

>> No.57447448

>>57447357
Japan has always been slow at adapting to trends

>> No.57447464

>>57447359
holo vta

>> No.57447468

>>57447399
Nice statement bro
Now actually believe in it

>> No.57447469

I just want to see pekora collab with her jun once again just like the good old days

>> No.57447470

>>57447399
People ain't gonna vanish over this. If Holo's content overlaps with its competitors, chances are Holos will come on top.

>> No.57447474

effortless 10k for pekora

>> No.57447478

Holos that 100% will participate in holizontal
Roboco
Matsuri
Fubuki
Mel
Shion
Choco
Ayame
Towa
Botan
Nene
Chloe
Lui
Iroha
Laplus

Holos that might participate
Suisei
Sora
Azki
Aki
Aqua
Subaru
Korone
Polka
Lamy

Holos that will never participate
Miko
Pekora
Mio
Okayu
Flare
Marine
Kanata
Watame
Noel
Luna
Koyori

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>>57447391
Suisei and Miko are a lesbian couple and they love each other.

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>> No.57447492

Top Most viewed 3D showcase (IRyS + Myth Edition)

1. Gura - 1,140,167 views : Mar 3, 2023
2. Ina - 549,744 views : Feb 19, 2023
3. IRyS - 443,081 views - Aug 20, 2023
4. Mori - 413,554 views : Feb 26, 2023
5. Kiara - 359,950 views : Feb 25, 2023
6. Ame - 346,184 views : Mar 4, 2023

>> No.57447497

>>57447420
She hasn't been relevant for 2 years, 40k tops

>> No.57447506

>Marines new song hit 8 million views
>Mori Collab with Reol still a ways of 1 million
Must feel good for senchou to mog them both

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>>57447401
Should've learnt to keep your mouth shut and follow instructions, too late for that now

>> No.57447515
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grim

>> No.57447517

Imagine the kino if Subaru actually gets to be the manager of an esports team.

>> No.57447518

>>57447357
If you read the comments from Esports orgs they are honestly banking on Cover to jump start the Esports boom on Japan.

>> No.57447521
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>>57447295
STOP KILLING HOLOLIVE'S BRAND BY EMULATING THE IRRELEVANT COMPETITORS FAGOO!!!!

>> No.57447525

Is pekosanji really going to stream over another holos special event AGAIN?

>> No.57447526

I blame Tokyo for HLZNTL

>> No.57447528

>>57447447
This is a parallel activity tho
Just because they do more gaming doesn't mean they are going to abandon idol activities

>> No.57447529

>>57447492
>Ame.....
Was it shorter or something?

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>>57447489

>> No.57447533

>>57447506
Marine is the queen of jp

>> No.57447534

>>57447492
>3. IRyS
How? that's like 1 and a half week ago

>> No.57447547

>>57447478
Anon let's be real here a week before the announcement, girls like Chloe or Irys would have been in the "100% will not" category. They will all participate if Cover puts enough pressure.

>> No.57447548

>>57447468
What you think it's so hard to queue a different video on YouTube while gaming?

>> No.57447552

>>57446999
>Being a walled garden is what gave the popularity
Hololive has three strengths
1) talent
2) not cocksleeve
3) no toxicity

When I saw miko ding ding ding clip or Korone water in the fire why clip, I found them funny and cute, I didn't even know if they are homocollabers.

If miko Korone is chronic cocksleeve like Enna I would run like hell. Even if Enna is not a cocksleeve she couldn't hold a candle to Miko Korone or replicate what they do. This is the power of holo talent.
Even if Enna has talent and not a cocksleeve she's toxic as fuck. If I want toxicity I can get the premium stuff on twitter.

With these 3 strengths combined holos destroy most female chuubas especially western ones. Becoz they can't provide these 3 things in one package

>> No.57447554

>>57447534
>How? that's like 1 and a half week ago
It was actually good.

>> No.57447557

>>57447515
Why are kikeks like this?

>> No.57447556

PLAVE 15K

>> No.57447564

>>57447399
Lol no

>> No.57447569

>Nijiniggers using HLZNTL to shit up threads and as a free pass to anti Hololive
Sasuga

>> No.57447568

>>57447525
She will end for sure for matsuri.......maybe

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>> No.57447578

>>57447548
If it was easy you wouldn't be here bitching about it

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>>57447515
council gigamogged by holoX yet again

>> No.57447579

>>57447478
>Lamy
No way fag, she mentioned on a member stream that she would be open to professional male collabs and she got so much pushback from yukimin she had to retract almost immediately

>> No.57447583

>>57447569
>t. cover intern

>> No.57447587

>>57447528
Anon, holos have limited time and a really packed schedule. Wasting time and resources on e-sport projects in 2023 is retarded. And if you shoehorn homos, then it's a travesty

>> No.57447588

>>57447517
sports manager manager as in the one passing around drinks and cleaning shirts.

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Holoen doko?

>> No.57447603

>>57447569
tolerated for being funny

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>> No.57447605

>>57447534
she is based

>> No.57447606

>>57447569
Pretty much, to a "Spamming / Flooding" point. I can only imagine how slow this thread could be right now with one (1) bloke getting ganked

>> No.57447607

>>57447556
sadly they're not a vtubers and doesn't want to be acknowledge as one

>> No.57447617

>>57447572
Beryl will be the queen of vshojo.

>> No.57447619

So lemme get this straight, cover hires a bunch of cute girls and asks them to act like cute idols, then years later decides to rope em into esports? Why not let the girls do what they're good at and hire people that are actually good at video games?

>> No.57447625

>>57447335
Post example

>> No.57447627

>>57447492
uhhh even though IRyS loses ccv to Ina, She might win with view counts soon.

>> No.57447632

>>57447521
>EMULATING
Anon, this move is basically killing the competition by sheer brand power. If everyone is doing the same things, you think Hololive will lose?

>> No.57447637

>>57447470
Maybe nips are more passive, but western audience already got burned several times in the past decade+, be comics/film/serial/videogames ecc just fucking hop the next hole doesn't have to be vtubers

>> No.57447638

>>57447606
Yeah anon because mods totally do work here

>> No.57447644

>>57447595
Why's kanae on twitch?

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>> No.57447646

>>57447595
Damn Pekora actually mogged them all if we are just basing on hours watched.

>> No.57447649

>>57447305
Fubuki needs to put her foot down already. If her big speech about trusting her had any merit at all it's time she made good on those words and pull Cover management back into line

>> No.57447650

>>57447481
You can go back now and jerk off in your containment thread
Also don't forget to take your HRT

>> No.57447656

>>57447579
based yukimin fight for what they like

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HOLY GAYEST OF GAYS

>> No.57447659

If it was marketed better I can see some Holos benefit from Horizontal. Not every Holo is suitable to pursue the idol path after all

>> No.57447662

>>57447638
Well, you can always do your part and whatever happens happens

>> No.57447671

>>57447534
A lot of good musical performances, I have been rewatching it occasionally.

>> No.57447670

>>57447646
>Slipped to iron mouse

>> No.57447673

>>57447619
>and hire people that are actually good at video games?
What do you think DEV_IS is? It's obviously going to synergize with Holizontal.

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>>57447357
hololive has been too comfortable at the top lately. We've reached a point where cover just throws shit at the wall out of boredom. The Passion is dying in Cover and with Over 500 employees it's a given that a majority of them aren't even hololive fans. We're declining. It's over.

>> No.57447676

suddenly I think a mixed gen was probably not really that far of in the past seeing how they are doubling down on that holopro shit

>> No.57447677

JWU. What am I mad at?

>> No.57447678

>>57447645
When is this btw? is there an specific time?

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>>57447534
You know how

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>>57447625
nta but what i have seen is just one schizo artist

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>> No.57447687

>HLZNTL
The beginning of the end for Hololive, this is just like that retarded Ai Kizuna clone. God dammit Cover.

>> No.57447689

>>57447478
Okay now make one for EN

>> No.57447691

>>57447607
Source?

>> No.57447695

>>57447678
No, just sometime in September

>> No.57447696

>>57447578
Because it's still worth

>> No.57447702

>>57447525
It’s a watchalong what’s wrong?

>> No.57447703

>>57447295
I'll watch Gura only, and that means 2 streams a month

>> No.57447709

>>57447649
But Fubuki supports the shilling of the homos.

>> No.57447711

>>57447687
And the nijinigger reveals himself at last

>> No.57447712

>>57447619
Or just buy out Vspo and make that their e-sport branch

>> No.57447713

>>57447689
holizontal is a primarily JP project.

>> No.57447718

>>57447649
>Trusting fbk in 2023
I already stop trusting her at kanata case

>> No.57447720

dev_is the first mixed gender esports gen for holizontal, creating a new esports branch?

>> No.57447725

>>57447587
No they don't. Ayame, Laplus, Towa, and others have been doing gaming shit on their RM accounts. This just makes it more convenient for them.

>> No.57447726

>>57447659
The only mistakes are the homos inclusion and forcing holos that doesnt want anything to do with it

>> No.57447729

>>57447534
Irys is sexrys

>> No.57447730

Yaraon raid kitaaaaaaaa

https://i.imgur.com/gDk7mYe.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/hkFwcLD.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/F9Y2Z8z.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/KUaEAgx.jpg

>> No.57447734

>>57447469
She never collab with him. What “good old day”?

>> No.57447736
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How has Tempus' viewership/performance been affected by Magni and Vesper's "graduation"?

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>>57447489

>> No.57447741

>Mumei Brought 16 packs of Mac & Cheese to Japan
>Some of them where Vegan cause she thought Fauna might want some
Man this girl is Autistic

>> No.57447747

>>57447713
>IRyS, THE EN GFE kneeled and was forced to participate
EN isn't safe anon

>> No.57447750

>>57447734
>Newfag

>> No.57447753

>>57447712
Cover doesn't have the financial chops to tangle with Brave Group.

>> No.57447758

>>57447718
Kanata? Qrd plx

>> No.57447762

>>57447741
What? They let her cross customs with food?

>> No.57447772

>>57447339
Mumei....

>> No.57447774

>>57447726
>forcing holos that doesnt want anything to do with it
Example of this?

>> No.57447775

>>57447702
It's still rude.

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https://audition.vspo.jp/en/

>> No.57447782

>>57447659
The only Holo who would be remotely interested in this is Towa and she's more interested in her singing career

>> No.57447785

>>57447619
>hire people that are actually good at video games
Girls being good at games don't make them more entertaining.

>> No.57447786

>>57447750
Sorry I don’t follow, afaik Pekora never collab with Jun

>> No.57447792

>>57447777
Why is flare in there

>> No.57447793

>>57447534
Full concert instead of being filled with fumbling around.

>> No.57447797

>>57447492
HoloID 3D showcase:
1. Moona - 828,248 views : Sep 2022
2. Risu - 448,639 views : Sep 2022
3. Iofi - 448,639 views : Sep 2022
4. Anya - 375,749 views : Jul 2023
5. Reine - 278,434 views : Jul 2023
6. Ollie - 225,647 views : Jul 2023

>> No.57447798

>>57447774
nene and lui

>> No.57447801

>>57447569
>t. Yagoo

>> No.57447803

>>57447793
Lots of rewatches for that mermaid part too, no?

>> No.57447806

>>57447747
What does that tell you about future gens like EN4, ID4, EN5, ID5 etc?

>> No.57447808

>>57447413
You can only get sponsorship money if you have an audience to make yourself worthy of sponsoring, and it's a time proven fact that Holo's audience doesn't care for sponsorships as the CCVs for those has continuously shown. If they tip the balance too hard on the side of sponsorship they'll just burn away through the audience's goodwill until companies start questioning if it's really worth the investment.

>> No.57447813

Can't wait for DEV_IS to effortlessly mog Flopvent. The hype for a new JP gen is at insane levels right now. They might even break 200k for their debuts and hold 50k+ for their first month at this rate.

>> No.57447815

>>57447689
Not him but here's my prediction
Holos that 100% will participate in holizontal
Mori
Ame
Kronii
Bae
IRyS
Shiori

Holos that might participate
Ina
Mumei
Bijou

Holos that will never participate
Gura
Kiara
Fauna
Nerissa
FWMC

>> No.57447816

>>57447684
sankon has drawn a lot of holo fanarts in the past but went into hiatus. his retweets are the first thing to come from his acc in years

>> No.57447817

>>57447637
Vtuber fans will continue to watch vtubers. And they will flock to the most popular vtubers.

>> No.57447821

>>57447798
Add irys too

>> No.57447822

>>57447725
They are doing shit on their RM accounts because they want to play with their personal accounts or with people they can't play in hololive. Holizontal won't fix that shit because it's sponsor backed stuff

>> No.57447824

>>57447747
She speak japanese and live on Japan soil, now please get Fauna out of there ASAP.

>> No.57447826

yeah, Cover getting rid of the "personal brand" concept for their talents for the future
company above else

>> No.57447829

>>57447775
Why?
Since the beginning there were no rule against it. If you hate it then complain to Cover to make it a rule instead of bitching to like 5 people browsing this thread rn

>> No.57447832

>>57447797
>2. Risu - 448,639 views : Sep 2022
>3. Iofi - 448,639 views : Sep 2022
Amazing coincidence or you pasted the wrong number?

>> No.57447846

>>57447579
Yukimin are the strongest fanbase after all

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>> No.57447849

>>57447762
Nigga you can cross customs with food as long as it's not in a fucking tubberware or something

>> No.57447851

>>57447649
But HLZNTL only makes Hololive stronger tho

>> No.57447852

>>57447492
>>57447797
>VOD cope
Moona still mogged your shark in CCV. 87k vs 67k.

>> No.57447856

>>57447659
>Not every Holo is suitable to pursue the idol path after all
This is stupid. Wasn't the entire lesson of the Coco graduation "don't hire chuubas who aren't fit to be idols"? Obviously, the EN and ID branches have more tolerance in regard to this because they're second-class citizens, but still.

>> No.57447857

HLZNTL feels like a way to shill the homos using sponsorship money as a disguise.

>> No.57447859

>>57447747
She was asked by the other girls, retard.

>> No.57447860

>>57447826
I still remember when Nijinigger were saying focusing on the company brand is better than talent brand as far as profit goes
Cover is going down that route rn

>> No.57447861

>>57447798
Can management even force any holo to do anything? If they can, why did they force them to collab with Homo now and not before?

>> No.57447862

>>57447817
That's a truly delusional take

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>that anon samefagging hard with posts replying to no one

>> No.57447865

>>57447650
If you don't report you are part of the problem
And at worst you can piss on their thread

>> No.57447866

>>57447859
Yes, and?
The point is even IRyS kneeled, no one is fucking safe.

>> No.57447867

>>57447849
That's not true anon

>> No.57447873

>>57447803
Not gonna bother rewatching it since it's already clipped in everywhere. I'm only rewatching it because she sang "Stand By You". I wonder when will she make an official cover for it.

>> No.57447880

>>57447856
HoloX already proved that JP is commited to hiring idols. DEV_IS will be no different.

>> No.57447882

>>57447687
You think Hololive fans will suddenly become Nijinog fans? lol

>> No.57447883

At this rate i wont be surprised if we get another CN members

>> No.57447884

>>57447848
Yeah this is a disaster. Not a single soul is interested in this shit and they're pissing off their main fanbase badly. What the fuck is Cover thinking

>> No.57447892

>203 / 42 / 59
Thoughts?

>> No.57447898

>>57447815
People would have put IRyS in the bottom section before the Overwatch thing.

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Kek

>> No.57447909

>>57447806
>future
I fully expect Nerissa and Shiori to do homocollabs one day. Biboo and FWMC might not, but those other 2? Yes, absolutely.

>> No.57447910

>>57447867
I've had no issues bringing in boxed shit that needs to be cooked home. They only really restrict you for pre-cooked goods or shit like meat or vegetables

>> No.57447912

>>57447712
What does that achieve exactly?

>> No.57447914

>>57447866
"Unicorn Queen" Chloe joining something like this is a much bigger deal than a sidebranch shitter like IRyS joining.

>> No.57447921

>>57447815
>Shiori
The girl who despises games, especially fps games.

>> No.57447922

>>57447848
If cover double down when this kinda shit happen,
I out and quit vtubing

>> No.57447928

>>57447815
I severely doubt IRyS will ever do this shit again. Maybe if it's girls only, but otherwise she'll avoid it like the plague.

>> No.57447930

>>57447815
>Shiori
The one that has outright stated she hates competitive pvp games, do you form your opinions entirely from vt shitposts?

>> No.57447933

>>57447848
Once again my question is what platform does Cover use to gauge their fans interest and reception?

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>>57447892
>Thoughts?
You tell me. Thread is at horse race speed (almost beating 10 posts per minute) without any horse race.
Poster count is not going up either so it is clearly one or a couple of anons spamming on cooldown

>> No.57447939

>>57447909
>Bibo plays league
>Holostars and IDs plays league
Do you see where exactly this goes?

>> No.57447938

>>57447726
>forcing holos that doesnt want anything to do with it
nijiseethe

>> No.57447940

Who are Matsuri guests? I am fucking waiting

>> No.57447943

>>57447357
Have you seen esports in japan? It's one of the few areas that can make money because nips will go to in person events and buy merch. Even for vsaikyou Hal rented out a bunch of movie theaters and showed it in them and people paid to go to it.

>> No.57447945

>>57447815
Fauna absolutely would under the same pretense as IRyS where she doesn't have to be in VC with them.

>> No.57447947

>>57447938
>defending homo inclusion
You're not fooling anyone, beggar.

>> No.57447950

>backread
Holy mental illness

>> No.57447953

>>57447933
None. They will only take hint when their revenue is impacted

>> No.57447956

>>57447848
they are just gonna ignore any criticism and brute force their vision onto the fanbase
happened with comics
happened with video games
happened with tabletops and dnd
happended with movies and tv shows
etc.
the consumer is wrong and they are right

>> No.57447957

>>57447861
They can "force" them with incentives.

>> No.57447961

>>57447815
Fauna would if they got another Pokemon thing and it was only girls from Hololive

>> No.57447964

>>57447526
Fubuki was the MC for Valorant hlzntl and Overwatch hlzntl. Clearly she's the culprit. Just one Collab with IRyS was all it took to rope her in to participate.

>> No.57447967

>>57447822
That just invalidates your rrat that holos don't have free time to do what they want.

>> No.57447972

>>57447848
I'm glad because I hated when it was just me complaining like Chicken Little.

>> No.57447974

>>57447940
Im coping for IRyS because she's nowhere to be found today.

>> No.57447977

>Lower end holo has a 3D live today with hope that people will tune in and watch
>Pekora: HEY SO IM OVERLAPPING YOU EVEN THOUGH I HAD MY ENTIRE COMPANY BACK ME UP WITH OVER A DOZEN PROJECTS THIS YEAR TO PROMOTE ME AND ME ONLY

>> No.57447980

>>57447943
Yeah lmao
Last Vsaikyou was fun because of how much Hal invested into it. I swear where does this guy get his money from? Pure 100% sponsorship money?

>> No.57447981

>>57447910
Then you need to travel more

>> No.57447984

>>57447815
Kronii won't do it.

>> No.57447986

>>57447848
Finally JPbros are waking up, I think watching theTempus disaster from distance made them realize if they stay silent cover will definitely fuck up your branch.

>> No.57447996

>>57447832
>2. Risu - **525,786 views** : Sep 2022
My bad

>> No.57447998

>>57447935
Phase beating NijiEN? Interesting

>> No.57448005

>>57447880
>HoloX
>Commited to hiring idols
>Laplus, Lui, Chloe
?

>> No.57448009

>>57447957
So win-win then. Unless the girl wants both incentive and fans

>> No.57448011

>>57447857
That's a good thing. Tempus already stole some of the Luxiem fans.

>> No.57448017

>>57447977
It’s a watchalong nigga
It’s not gonna steal tourist from anyone

>> No.57448020

Matsuri Bdayyy
Matsuri Gold
God is HOLOLIVE

>> No.57448026

>>57447977
pekora has earned it

>> No.57448028

>>57447914
Not even the first time Chloe did it. IRyS is much more shocking.

>> No.57448032

>>57447967
Learn the difference between leisure and work

>> No.57448036

For clarification
>>57447492 (me)
>>57447797 (not me)

>> No.57448039

>>57447947
Who do you think you're fooling, nijinigger?

>> No.57448043

>>57448011
kek, yeah, look at that mass of chinese fans Tempus got!

>> No.57448044

>>57447861
if your boss asks you to help your company with their new big project that is going to help bring them onto a new level and needs to succeed or everyone in the company will take a hit, you can't just say "no"

>> No.57448047
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>>57447848
This Nigga is speaking the truth

>> No.57448048

>>57448020
Gold is 58k
She haven’t even revealed her guests yet, shit gonna be tough

>> No.57448050

>>57447529
showed her 3d miniconcert on her BD like 3 months before the showcase. It's more of the same debuff. Also meh show meh ccv.

>> No.57448054

>>57447953
>They will only take hint when their revenue is impacted
Holostars is still a thing

>> No.57448057

>>57447670
>blind

>> No.57448059

>>57447860
You don't make any sense.

>> No.57448058

>>57448028
IRyS is just a sidebranch nobody. Chloe is part of JP's flagship gen. HoloX is practically the face of holoJP these days.

>> No.57448062

>>57447464
I wonder if that'd be competitive.

>> No.57448063

So anyway with Cover on the way out, who will capitalise on their mistake and take over as the premier all-female idol vtuber corpo?

>> No.57448067

>>57447892
Mental illness. Rangeban SEA.

>> No.57448068

>>57447977
>Seething about a sub 10k Pekora stream
kek

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>> No.57448077

>>57448058
>HoloX is practically the face of holoJP these days.
This is how I know nijiniggers don't watch hololive

>> No.57448082

>Cover is on top of the vtuber industry for years
>Cover sees other corpos doing **mildly** well for themselves
>"Oh, we should be more like them!"
Ngl, it would be really funny if Hololive ends up tanking their own profits for no other reason than because they got bored of winning.

>> No.57448084

>>57448028
>Can interact with other girls that rarely she collab
>Gets money too
When she knows she no need to interact with males, she will accept it

>> No.57448085

Is it too early?
https://youtu.be/2TfWo3GsIII

>> No.57448086

>>57447861
>if you don't accept then no 3D Lives for the next year

>> No.57448088

>>57448058
Anons in here won't get (You)'s if they don't use ENs to shitpost.

>> No.57448092

>>57448063
There's talk of Aviel expanding his business into Japan lately.

>> No.57448096

>>57447980
I think they also sell merch, but yeah most is sponsors

>> No.57448099

I don't mind male/female collabs, but trying to make an E-sports team when most of the females suck at games and only 2-3 males are decent at best is the stupidest decision.

>> No.57448100

>>57448047
This honestly, everyone is there for the talents, if the company is going to pull some soulless shit they are fucking retarded to use up the goodwill of the talents instead of their own.

>> No.57448104

>>57447947
kys nijinog

>> No.57448105

>>57448063
People hates Cover but love hololive

>> No.57448106
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57448106

Reminder, this is what Matsuri is up against today

>> No.57448107

Anyone remember when astroturfers shilled Tempus as a sexpest-free nijiEN for bros? How did that go?

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>>57447569
As resident holochad. Keep quiet retards. We all already know that Nijinigs are all pathetic BOOTLICKERS. Maybe by lurking these threads they'll learn something something for once and they'll see the TRUE image of the average holochad. hololive is popular because of the Talents hardwork AND the fans, you know?

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>>57447977
Make you wonder huh

>> No.57448123

>chloe
>unicorn queen
Holy shit my sides

>> No.57448127

>>57448106
Did they have the Live2D for each or it's just cardboard cutout?

>> No.57448128

>>57448043
Tempus pretty much killed nijiEN. It's competition at work.

>> No.57448129

So iryskeks it was a one time thing right?? She won’t join more homo tournaments right????

>> No.57448130

>>57447947
t. nijinigger

>> No.57448133

>>57448039
>>57448104
Your homos are dead and the rest of that pathetic branch will never incline even if Cover forces every single girl to collab with them.

>> No.57448140

>>57447957
So they’re forcing them by paying lots of money?

>> No.57448141

>>57447974
That means she's with Kronii.

>> No.57448146

>>57448096
Can’t imagine Vsaikyou merch sell that much

>> No.57448147

>>57447977
Pekora hates gays with a passion and matsuri is one of them certified gays.

>> No.57448150

>>57448119
HOLY AUTISM

>> No.57448149

>>57448044
We also had Nene saying that her manager was very insistent that she should be diversifying to other things and pushing her to take part in the Valo tournament.

>> No.57448151

>>57448057
>Blinder

>> No.57448154

>>57448099
>I don't mind male/female collabs
I do. So, yeah, even if it wasn't an esports thing, I wouldn't support it.

>> No.57448155

>>57447848
>let the holomem do what they want
manager gaslight them to think the whole whorizon is a good thing now, see Nene

>> No.57448164

>>57448128
>Tempus pretty much killed nijiEN
How? Explain the process that happened

>> No.57448169

>>57448044
We're talking about Hololive here, not Nijisanji.
Holos can definitely sa "no" unless you have evidence to the contrary.

>> No.57448176

>>57447534
why are we pretending 3/5 myth aren't... you know

>> No.57448180

>>57448099
>"oh those esports things? yeah, the kids like that. let's go into that"

>> No.57448183

>>57448009
What kind of black company logic is this?

>> No.57448185

>>57448169
Yes, they can say no but they can be guilt-tripped by their personal manager

>> No.57448190

>>57448164
bettel convinced mysta to graduate

>> No.57448192

>>57448063
>who will capitalise on their mistake and take over as the premier all-female idol vtuber corpo
Of course none. Why do you think Yagoo made this move?
Check mate.

>> No.57448195

>>57448122
pekosanji strikes again

>> No.57448197

>>57448185
>head canon

>> No.57448200

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Trs-SFvMtYo
Thread theme

>> No.57448208
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57448208

We're esports now?

>> No.57448211

>>57448127
It’s all live2D

>> No.57448221

>>57448208
Hololive only grows stronger

>> No.57448225

>>57448164
It didn't. Anon is assuming that the fact that Luxiem's numbers dropped near the time Tempus debuted means Tempus killed them.
The reality is that around the time Tempus debuted the "EN male vtuber" novelty just died in general.

>> No.57448228

>>57447569
Hololive fan. I hate it and will openly oppose it. I won't be written off as a nijinigger while the enemy is in the gates. I will be a Cover anti as long as they keep doing this shit.

>> No.57448230

>>57448149
QRD:
>Nene plays VALO randomly while waiting for her mother.
>People brush it off as a one off.
>Tweets she was watching the VALO tournament and then did a VALO stream not long after some matches finished.
>Tensions slowly start rising between fans who hate FPS (75% of Holo fans at least on the JP side.)
>Does a weird APEX stream to announce her outfit with like 5 kills in one match or something
>People are confused why she chose APEX to announce it.
>Has a shill stream for VALO's new game mode apparently instructed by her manager.
>Plays VALO with the people who everyone knows they play off stream with various streamers and males and they think they'll try to get Nene involved.
>Fans suspect she's already doing it just by association and flip completely leaving comments and quitting membership

She then talked about it in today's stream:
> Got into hololive wanting to be an idol with the most "field experience", had talked with her manager about this as well.
> Apparently she was told she has to have qualities in other fields as well, not just in idol activities.
> So she wondered what she should do to get such experience in other fields.
> Knows that most of her fans followed her due to her idol activities, but that's coming into conflict with the duties she is given as a corporate VTuber.
> Some fans asked her to not do stuff that goes against being an idol, and if she's going to move forward with it, to not call herself an idol anymore.
> Understands the complaints but says that she can't earn a living through idol activities alone.
> She couldn't say that she would stop doing it (the supposed anti-idol stuff), but still wanted to convey her dedication to her fans.
> As a corporate VTuber, she cannot always do what she wants, and is obligated to "expand her horizons" and "change according to the times" (whatever that means), so she couldn't truthfully say she would stop doing it.
> "If you're not going to stop, then farewell, Nenechi." - received a lot of comments like this, from long-time members she knew the names of.
> Acknowledges that none of them slandered her or anything, just said their goodbyes and left.
> Understands the fact that a lot of her fans followed her for the idol stuff, but feels that the current range of her content is rather limiting, and thinks that it will eventually suffocate her in the future.
> Wants to try various new things, and she is required to do a lot of things from now on as well.
> Understands why long-time fans would leave when her content is changing, but feels regretful and troubled that she can no longer reciprocate the type of content that they ask of her.
> She feels that her fundamental dreams and activities have not changed, she still loves being an idol and participating in concerts.
> She just feels like it's expanded. But she also cannot say anything to people who feel betrayed by this either.
> Didn't want to discuss all this while the preparations for the Live was happening, so kept quiet, and it all came out.

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>>57447676
Yeah. If Advent failed, EN4 mixed gen might be in the cards. 3 females + 2 males.

>> No.57448235

Sometimes completely defeating the enemies comes with a price. Think about it
>Homobeggars: completely defeated, Magni and Vesper graduated, numbers in the dumps
>Nijibeggars: completely defeated, Mysta graduated, numbers in the dumps

All they have now is to stick around and try to shit the place up.

>> No.57448237

>micomet drop idol duo cover
>Asuizu drop individual idol covers and a duo cover on the stars main channel
Coincidence?
https://youtu.be/M3UNonus3SI

>> No.57448239

HLZNTL sponsors probably are mainly for JP esports maybe some ID esports which are mostly mobile games.
>LoL might get holoen but they don't need it since there are pros/koreans etc that will get better numbers than them.
>Valorant high chance since they are desperate rn and they are sponsoring anyone to increase their viewership.
>Overwatch honestly the only thing I know about their esports is they suck at it and they are literally botting viewers so their sponsors backout.
>FGC don't have money to hire anyone they don't even have big prize pool.
>CSGO/CS2 don't need to hire anyone they will get carried by Brazil/CIS and honestly the whole community is great so don't need to hire anyone.
>Dota2 unless the saudi prince wants holo and sponsor them I doubt they would hire anyone since they really don't do those shit.
>Apex don't need to hire EN just hire JP
>RocketLeague/COD/Rainbow/SC2 etc too small doubt they would hire vtubers to promote their shits.

>> No.57448242

>>57448200
all tumbling down... capitalism kills everything i love i am a communist now

>> No.57448243

>>57448169
They can be sweet talked into it, the girls may be oblivious to the negatives, because managment only told them about the positives

>> No.57448246

>>57448123
Retards probably saw her farming SC and then think she's unicorn queen

>> No.57448252

>>57448106
Is Roa there?

>> No.57448253

>>57448228
Post memberships.

>> No.57448254

>>57448192
Varium. i beleeb. i can see them catching the distressed fanbase when Cover decides to implode with their shitty decisions lately.

>> No.57448255

>>57448044
Pretty sure at least some of the big names will start pushing back after this. The 60 year old ojisans in management might be out of touch but the holos themselves are seeing the reaction and there's no way Marine or Lamy will let manager incompetence sink Hololive without a fight

>> No.57448257

>>57448164
Tempus showed everyone that nijiEN's fujobaiting meta was bad that was why their fans stopped watching them and switched sides.

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>>57448122
>>57448195
Suisanji deflection

>> No.57448270

>>57448257
>and switched sides.
To where?

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>>57447687
Still won't watch your bargain bin livers and 2 view shitters. Go beg somewhere else.

>> No.57448275

>>57448009
retardchama you do know work-to-rule is an action a worker can do to protest, so what happens when Cover does that to one of their contracted talents? They will only provide exactly what is outlined in the contract and do whatever it takes you miserable... or you just do the homo holizontal collab

>> No.57448284

>>57447747
I'm worried for Fuwamoco what with them being able to speak jap and all. I can already see some rat fuck Cover manager trying to leverage their idol ambitions by saying they need to 'play ball' if they expect to get 3D events and whatnot.

>> No.57448285

>>57447964
Fubuki had always taken the MC role for a lot of projects, Towers always pursued competitive tournaments.

>> No.57448287

>>57448185
Okay, nijisis

>> No.57448288

>>57448169
>Forgot about Kanataso

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>>57448267
holoange

>> No.57448299
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57448299

New Holos?

>> No.57448303
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at least she's happy I guess

>> No.57448309
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57448309

kek

>> No.57448315

>>57448299
>Ollie
>Holos
kek

>> No.57448318

>>57448243
You know what? This sound plausible
It’s always the most retarded girls who get hooked into these things

>> No.57448319

>>57447848
It's funny that most complain about Holo being overworked

>> No.57448321

>>57448228
Doesn't matter cause you don't have much of a choice. You still gonna watch Hololive.

>> No.57448324

>>57448230
Yeah...
Yeah......
This does not bode well.

>> No.57448328

>>57447940
She hasn't said. Nene retweeted it and Towa said she was appearing in a stream tonight so maybe them but Towa's thing could just be her showing up in Ollie's mint chocolate video lol

>> No.57448336

>>57448288
>say no
>get broom closeted

>> No.57448338

Here comes a fat Akua funnel

>> No.57448352

>>57448230
Post timestamps, nijisis

>> No.57448354

Fuck Holotori, Fuck Umisea. Where's my fucking Holohorns Yagoo?

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*dance*

>> No.57448360

>>57448324
that shit is like a month old

>> No.57448361

>>57448272
Enjoy all future cuck tournaments!!!

>> No.57448366

>>57448169
Saying no strongly might be a bit...you know?
I don't think management is being malicious, they are just being incompetent retards and can't understand how Hololive actually works

>> No.57448368
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> 2K followers

>> No.57448369

>>57448230
>"expand her horizons"
this was already over from the start...

>> No.57448374

>>57448319
Meanwhile Gura...

>> No.57448382

>>57448338
right into my mouth and all over my face

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57448383

>>57448267
Shhhhh quiet No mercy

>> No.57448385

>>57448361
Thanks for the mask drop

>> No.57448386

>>57448321
>You still gonna watch Hololive.
No? If my oshi starts collabing with males, I'll drop her. If everyone starts collabing with males, I'll go watch VShojo or Idol, or Phase. You know why? Because at that point, what's the fucking difference between them and Hololive?

>> No.57448389

I find this mixed gen coping really funny. Carry on, thank you.

>> No.57448392

>>57448254
I would've believed you if you said Verse-n

>> No.57448393

>>57448354
Who are they possibly?
Choco
IRyS
Watame
Laplus...????

>> No.57448395

>>57448230
Thank fuck EN are lazy and dont know japanese

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>> No.57448397

>>57447933
Judging by how their bureaucracy works, these messages will be read by the CM, then passed to the higher ups who will put them on hold until they pass it to another higher up, until it's been months since the initial outrage happened and the nip boomer in charge of the project dismisses it because he can't do wrong

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57448398

>>57447720
Do Your Reps, Retard-kun. It's an Idol unit and they're all wearing idol outfit. Why are you dumb?

>> No.57448400

>>57448230
Fucking grim, had heard nothing of this.

Nenechi...

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57448404

>>57448383

>> No.57448407

>>57448044
Man, this is an entertainment industry with the talent as the main product, they can straight up say no, sure you'll be on the company's bad side but it will never warrant a suspension or, hell, graduation. They're not you and I, grunts in a normal company that can be replaced without major repercussion.

>> No.57448417

>>57448360
And we're currently seeing what she meant by implying that things are changing. So, yeah, it does not bode well.

>> No.57448422

>>57448296
Still made me laugh when I remember that happened

>> No.57448425

>>57448386
>If everyone starts collabing with males, I'll go watch VShojo
kek, that was one of the worst impersonations of what you believe the Hololive fandom to be and shows a complete ignorance of what keeps people watching Hololive and ignoring VShojo

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>>57448404

>> No.57448431

>>57448270
That's irrelevant.
I'm glad you agreed with me about Tempus killing nijiEN tho.

>> No.57448436

>>57448383
I still wonder why you crop the screenshot there, screenshot the whole sentence bro

>> No.57448437

>>57448392
Sonychuubas are too "literal whos" to get noticed by people, as much as i wanna agree with you.

>> No.57448439

>>57448393
Fauna

>> No.57448440

>>57448383
NTA but the fact you have these saved is hilarious, you're clearly in love

>> No.57448441

>>57448230
lol, she's basically done. No way she can incline like this. Her dumbfuck manager should be fired.

>> No.57448443

>3D studio is conveniently "too busy" for regular 3D lives
>the top JPs suddenly start focusing on game content instead
>pekora puyo tetris tournament is a great success, completely eclipsing every single 3D live in hololive history
>cover begins to shift focus to the esports market
This whole thing feels scripted.

>> No.57448447

>>57448321
It's crazy how much I used to watch Korone, all of her 24 hour streams without a rest. One of her streams was 36+ hours and I was there for all of it after already been at work that day.
I haven't watched her since the 3D live.

>> No.57448453

>>57448404
Mitolive

>> No.57448462
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>>57448253
I hate Cover and what they're doing. I am a Cover anti and I take pride in it. I will not lick their boots.

>> No.57448467

>>57448309
Ramen shop selling sushi is actually very common. Bad analogy.

>> No.57448471

>>57448436
They might copystrike me

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>>57448427

>> No.57448482
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Antis have their work done for them by cover, they're having a party

>> No.57448483

>>57448230
>Can't earn a living through idol Activites alone
What. She gets thousands of dollars in membership, superchat and merch income every month. Fucking Roboco bought a new place in Tokyo with cash

>> No.57448491

>>57448369
>horizontal
It was already owari da.

>> No.57448493

>>57448272
Yagoo, I kneel.

>>57448366
I still won't watch your oshi, nijisis.

>> No.57448494

>>57448149
>>57448230
IIRC her manager only told her to try not being a one trick pony(tunnel visioning into idol route), playing FPS is Nene's own answer to that.

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>>57448439
Fauna has branches, not horns

>> No.57448513

>>57448208
Yea I'm currently watching ESL Pro League

>> No.57448512

Today cucklive was born
So excited for gura to join the homo jp tournaments

>> No.57448514

SHUT UP FAGGOTS, THE FESTIVAL HAS STARTED

>> No.57448519

>>57448440
She loves niji so we must preserve this treasure

>> No.57448520
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57448520

You can thank Suisei for the homo segregation

>> No.57448524

/#/ IS INCLINING! LETS GO

>> No.57448526

>>57448321
I do have the option. I can watch netflix, I can play games, I can watch anime, watch documentaries etc

>> No.57448533

>>57447228
Nearly no overlap
ateshi kanji go 22k

Is this grim or my numberfagging skill reclined?

>> No.57448543

>>57448431
>That's irrelevant.
It's not irrelevant. It is an integral part of your argument which got "elided".
So far your reasoning is

1) Luxiem is sucessful
2) Tempus showed everyone that nijiEN's fujobaiting meta was bad
3) Luxiem fans stopped watching them and switched sides.

So far your argument does not support that "Tempus killed NijiEN" because point 2) is backed by no evidence and point 3) has a fatal flaw: in order for someone to "switch sides" they have to go from Luxiem to "the other side".
Which other side is this?

>> No.57448549

I wonder why hasn't anyone @ yagoo and ask him to explain himself?

>> No.57448551

>>57448494
>knows the only other option is art which is not an option for Nene

>> No.57448555

>>57448520
>lets collab more
>segregation
learn english retardchama

>> No.57448558

>>57448506
They are literally horns you retarded faggot.

>> No.57448563

>>57448533
She was at 29k at some point

>> No.57448567
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57448567

>Gura disappears with EN management forcing the homos
>she comes back when the graduation of the two fags got decided
>she disappears again when she finds out about HLZNTL shilling the homos

>> No.57448569

>>57448482
Nice username

>> No.57448570

>>57448462
saved!

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>>57448474

>> No.57448578

So JPchads, do you feel in control?

>> No.57448590

>>57448483
She's dumb as fuck. Her manager was manipulating her

>> No.57448594

>>57448386
Because it's Hololive, anon. Your oshi is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.

>> No.57448595

>>57448230
Is this what might be happening to LoDong?

>> No.57448598

20k in 2 mins

>> No.57448599

Festival is pretty cute today

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>> No.57448605

>>57448494
She could have begun to learn an instrument like Luna, just get a guitar and a yamaha sponsorship

>> No.57448614

>>57448549
because he has become a puppet
did everyone forget that they took all his power after the taiwan incident?

>> No.57448621

>>57448567
too bad she's fighting against the jap management themselves, so it's not going to be an easy one.

>> No.57448622

>>57448407
But they can easily do stuff like block you from getting other sponsored stuff or not let you use the studio in response if you refuse.

>> No.57448627

>>57448605
thats idol shit

>> No.57448628

>>57448230
>Knows that most of her fans followed her due to her idol activities, but that's coming into conflict with the duties she is given as a corporate VTuber.

>> No.57448629

>>57448483
I'm pretty sure that one is mistranslation. Someone posted the correct translation after that but you know why this one is the one making rounds.

>> No.57448631

>>57448594
I'm good, thanks.

>> No.57448638

>>57448425
Yea, that was a sloppy false flag attempt. Most Hololive fans that got fed up over this shit would probs just stop watching vtubers altogether.

>> No.57448645

>>57448601
Wouldn't Hololive just pick up alot of the former Nijisanji fans if something like that came to fruition or is there too much bad blood and tribalism?

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>>57448555
Cope

>> No.57448661

>>57448230
What the fuck am I reading?

>> No.57448660

>>57448627
Still better than playing nu-fps garbage that no one in her audience wants to watch.

>> No.57448662

>>57448638
Like with every activity, people just go do whatever else they do

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>> No.57448664

>>57448462
Nta, but I never believe this sort of screencaps because some anon used to made threads about membership once in a while and anon will post these sort of screencaps
Take a shot of your screen with your handwriting on a paper or show hand

>> No.57448673

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90WD_ats6eE

>> No.57448677

>>57448567
Gura needs to take the doggos under her wings before that purple male gets a hold of them

>> No.57448679

Shut the fuck up about esports and giving attention to Twitter retards, watch matuli being cute

>> No.57448680

That talk Lamy is suddenly starting to make sense.

>> No.57448696

>>57448663
>reddit memes

>> No.57448701

>>57448526
No you don't. You're going to stop watching them eventually for the same reasons you started watching vtubers and Hololive.

>> No.57448707

>>57448407
>They're not you and I, grunts in a normal company that can be replaced without major repercussion.
they fired their top 2 biggest superchat earners. if they have no issues doing that, they'll McFuckingdoit again!

>> No.57448713

>>57448679
Lyger already gives her enough attention every evening

>> No.57448718

God Matsuri cannot sing what the fuck is this? How do you fuck up this song this bad?

>> No.57448719

30K. 60K possible?

>> No.57448727

>>57448230
Is this actually real or bait

>> No.57448731

>>57448663
Negi u floating?
Who are u kiddin with

>> No.57448732

>>57448655
The word you were looking for is desegregation Mr Pagpag. Suisei was not the cause that the homos got put into camps, she was the cause that they got to leave the camps and co mingle with the general public according to you

>> No.57448742

>>57448727
real

>> No.57448743

Was this recorded at an external studio? The lighting looks weird. Reminds me of Okayu's 3D live.

>> No.57448745

>>57448679
matsuri is so out of the holobox it's not even funny anymore

>> No.57448747

30k get

>> No.57448751

>>57448663
>holodeath

>> No.57448758

>>57447530
Izuru, Anya, Marine. Tomorrow will be an EN or a holostarsEN, with the other the day after.

>> No.57448764

>>57448638
This is correct. Hololive is not just competing with other vtuber corpos but other forms of entertainment too. If I don't watch hololive, I'll just play more video games.

>> No.57448763

>>57448719
Heavily depends on Guest I think, but it's gonna be tough.

>> No.57448769

>>57448680
>The member post explaining she won't do male collabs on her channel but sponsored stuff will be unavoidable
Ok this is grim. Massive pushback is needed to turn Cover off this course

>> No.57448770

Aqua+Pekora overlap it's over.

>> No.57448776

>>57448719
No. This will crawl to 40k and plateau there.

>> No.57448783

>>57448758
>Izuru
>Marine
Not in your wildest dreams, beggar.

>> No.57448788

>>57448679
>festival
>cute
Que?

>> No.57448791

>>57448719
>30K. 60K possible?
She's tracking the same as her ReSTART
https://vrabi.net/video/oFn0ZypcaM8
she'll likely match it

>> No.57448790

>>57448727
Apparently, it is behind membership so who knows?

>> No.57448793

Am I insane or the video fidelity of this live is kinda High? This looks way better than Splash day 1

>> No.57448794

Anyone else feel like Festival's singing voice has gotten worse?

>> No.57448796

>>57448443
Top JP literally have always play games for stream the fuck you talking about?

>> No.57448797

>>57448745
How do you fall out of the Holobox? Also is anyone else outside of the Box at this point?

>> No.57448806

>>57448788
matuli is very cute

>> No.57448812

>>57448663
tf happened to Star Flower? They wasted such a good unit.

>> No.57448814

>>57448794
she got a nose job a few months back

>> No.57448816

>>57448797
RBC

>> No.57448818

>>57448727
Real but from a month ago, right after the gen 5 concert happened

>> No.57448827

>>57448745
Announcing that she's unironically seiso was career suicide

>> No.57448829

>>57448758
>izuru
Still trying?

>> No.57448831

>>57448751
oh yeah I think that is about to be a thing given the direction they're going with holizontal

>> No.57448832

>>57448812
It's never alive to begin with

>> No.57448835

>>57448471
Nigga really fear clippers lol

>> No.57448837
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57448837

Aqua hate.

>> No.57448846

why do normalfags always try to destroy what I love?

>> No.57448850

>>57448793
The screen behind look much more smoother compared to other lives

>> No.57448852

>>57448770
Aqua is reading SC and told her viewers to go watch Matsuri.

>> No.57448857

>>57448846
it's fine. they're japanese normalfags.

>> No.57448860

>>57448727
It's real. Nene cried about losing her members. Why the fuck she thought FPS was the best way to diversify her activities nobody knows.

>> No.57448861

>>57448655
Illiterate esl retarded shitposting midwit.

>> No.57448862

>>57448758
You're so fucking blind, it's obviously all new people.

>> No.57448866

>>57448846
Because you are minority

>> No.57448870

>>57448794
Sorry am too hard on her throat.

>> No.57448875

>>57448797
Get the cops called on you.

>> No.57448877

ENTER AKI AND NENE

>> No.57448878

>>57448797
Constant outside collabs without interacting enough with the rest of the girls

>> No.57448885

I will take Kanata still being there as my only assurance that the soul isn't entirely dead yet

>> No.57448891

Enter Aki and Nene

>> No.57448894
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57448894

37k at the start of the collab part

>> No.57448895

Aki really moves well in 3D
dang

>> No.57448898

>>57448852
She still will lock in 10k.

>> No.57448901

>>57448846
cause you have shit taste

>> No.57448903

>>57448837
She already went to superchat reading.

>> No.57448914

Who are the fucking guests Matsuri??? Who started this whole “Le surprise guest” trend?

>> No.57448919

>>57448860
She thinks she is Aqua, Towa, or Suisei?

>> No.57448921
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>>57448860
GRIM NUMBER!

>> No.57448929
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Speak of the devil

>> No.57448930

>>57448852
Retards probably have Matsuri on a second tab, since she still has 15k

>> No.57448932

>>57448885
>kanata
>soul
Kek

>> No.57448933

I don't think Matsuri's gonna make it

>> No.57448936

>>57448797
>How do you fall out of the Holobox?
It's not hard. People that don't relish their relations with the other girls get forgotten by their fanbases
>Also is anyone else outside of the Box at this point?
Roboco, for a different reason
>she just doesn't put herself out there

>> No.57448938

>let's go do it PLAP PLAP PLAP
what did they mean by this

>> No.57448939

>>57448914
I can't remember but it was supposed to have died after Korone brought a 3d man

>> No.57448940

40k in 10mins. We have a horse race gentlemen

>> No.57448944

>>57448885
Kanata also assured that she'd quit if they force her to do it again. As much as that is reassuring, I'm also deathly afraid since the chance isn't 0 given what cover is fucking up right now

>> No.57448951

... choreo is getting better

>> No.57448952

Here's a tough one: which one do you think would be better for Hololive, holizontal or debuting english language vtubers who stream during euro hours?

>> No.57448958

Interesting choreo and performance

>> No.57448962

Nene is the cutest and the sexiest.

>> No.57448966

>>57448679
Matsuri is both cute and a whore. It's a shame.

I see matsuri as cute but I can't bring myself to get invested in her at her. Yea those insane yabs and lies of her

>> No.57448969

>>57448831
How exactly?

>> No.57448970

>>57448846
That's literally just the natural process of all hobbies.
>Thing is made by rejects and outcasts looking to have fun
>Thing gets spread through word of mouth
>Normalfags start enjoying thing
>Normalfags sanitize it, change it, and ruin the thing
>The rejects and outcasts who started it go do something else
>The normalfags find that thing too
>Repeat 100000000x

>> No.57448973
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>>57448228
BASED. Don't let the beggers and nijinigs trick you into thinking otherwise. hlzntl is poison that should be expelled with haste.

>> No.57448975

>>57448543
You're wrong, anon.
My premise was that "Tempus made nijiEN look bad" and therefore "it made their fans leave them behind".
The fact that you conceded to that makes your argument regarding where their fans went completely irrelevant and beside the point.

>> No.57448977
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57448977

>>57448940
No way 60% of Nijisanji gonna lose to Matsuri right?

>> No.57448980

Meh, it's just the execution of the esports stuff is bad. Just debut new girls with abilities that are suitable for that area. Some comments mentioning it too like gamers gen 2. If you want to try something new, you debut new girls along with it.

>> No.57448982

>>57448812
it wasn't really a "unit", they just brought them together once for a song and I guess it was too big a unit for them to bring back for splash party

>> No.57448993
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57448993

40k for blonde butts!

>> No.57448997

>>57448952
I would rather have an entire gen of romanian gypsys than that holoanti project

>> No.57449003

>>57448622
>block sponsor
Sure they can but it doesn't really matter if your cashflow is sufficient.
>block studio
Now that just stupid, imagine birthday coming and a talent say "Sorry guys no 3d, management told me I can't use studio for a while."
At the end of the day, Cover management usually just use their favorite move called guilt tripping.

>> No.57449005

>>57448952
Why can't the current girls stream? EU hours is basically regular working hours in NA, so they're awake and biologically at their most active at that time of day.

>> No.57449011

>>57448921
>half of sankisei overlapping the 3d live
Did festival do something to them or something?

>> No.57449013

>>57448919
Towa is one of her best friends in Hololive, maybe that had something to do with it? There are dozens of other ways she could have tried making different content without pissing off her core fans though.

>> No.57449023

>>57448940
The trajectory isn't good, it would take a serious buff to push Matsuri to gold.

>> No.57449024

>>57448860
Do you have the link and timestamps?

>> No.57449032

40k DORYYYA

>> No.57449034

>>57448982
it's not the unit size that's the problem, the issue is that every single member in that unit already has a ton of other units they are already part of apart from azki

>> No.57449039

>>57449003
>Sorry guys no 3d, management told me I can't use studio for a while.
Like they have been doing this year?

>> No.57449046

>>57449011
I like how you ignore Aqua who is holding the most viewer away from Matsuri

>> No.57449058

I've just accepted cover is too retarded and that its on the fanbase to punish bad project

if tomorrow every other company but cover collapsed and a new one would arise who's gimmick is vtubers doin clown shows for like 1/5th of hololives numbers,the morons at cover would launch project clownzontl cause they want a piece of that

>> No.57449059
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57449059

>>57448493
I'm sorry that my oshi is not management and the company
Tribaltards like you are hilarious
You end up acting like Nijiniggers with how much you bootlick management and Cover

>> No.57449060

>>57449024
It's members only content

>> No.57449062

>>57449005
Probably because they have hard data that shows EU is a dead end for them.

>> No.57449070

This was recorded during Holofes?

>> No.57449072

>>57448975
>My premise was that "Tempus made nijiEN look bad" and therefore "it made their fans leave them behind".
That's even more retarded than what I believed you were saying.
>Tempus showed that there is a much better alternative than Luxiem, then Luxiem fans went away (but didn't take that better alternative)
That's retarded as fuck. Tempus did fuck all, except tank the Hololive EN branch and split the fanbase.
Thank God their worst leeches got graduated

>> No.57449093

>>57448952
>hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby
Oh gee, anon. I wonder which one is worse, the project that is once again forcing homos where they shouldn't be or more girls.

>> No.57449096

>>57449062
We've seen your data anon, last time you were bragging about dollars when it lost to EU

>> No.57449099

>>57449013
To be fair, playing Valorant with friends is fun
She probably it's safe because no male in valiant exhibitions

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57449103

>>57448970

>> No.57449104

>>57449060
what's the stream title?

>> No.57449112

>>57448952
?
One is a side project and one is the main project
How retarded are you? They are completely different

>> No.57449116

>>57449013
It's normal for young Japanese people to be into shit like valo, it's not her fault that Cover was pushing a half finished idea.

>> No.57449122

>>57448970
>Dogs chase away fake fans.png

>> No.57449123

>>57449039
Specifically happen to one girl?

>> No.57449136

>>57449096
Where did I say that I had that data?

>> No.57449148

>Lui

>> No.57449153

>>57449059
Oh look it's the nijinigger who thinks bootlick is the next new buzzword he can just spam on repeat and that'll make the thread into his personal army

>> No.57449170

>>57449123
Aki and Okayu both had to use an external studio that they paid for themselves

>> No.57449172

>>57449099
They got matched against a homostar team and Towa had to damage control by switching 2v2 games until the homos stopped queuing

>> No.57449174

AAIIEEEE MALE with LUINEEE

>> No.57449173

ENTER LUI AND A MALE

>> No.57449182

>song is girls
>there's a male inside

>> No.57449187

>Sing Girls
>There is boy in the group
What does this mean?

>> No.57449203

Male on stream

>> No.57449206

>>57449153
You beggars are really doing everything to defend this garbage project, huh?

>> No.57449209
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57449209

AIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE MALE COLLAB

>> No.57449230

I love Towacock

>> No.57449234

>>57448860
Because antis at Cover want them to go heavy in FPS

>> No.57449235

ALL MALES AAAAIIIEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.57449238

>>57449153
This your new modus operandi sis? I know you're mad at cover for "forcing" your sexpest homo oshis to graduate but you will never gaslit us to accept this project.

>> No.57449240

>>57448543
>point 2) is backed by no evidence
I saw a lot of anecdotes on Twitter back when Tempus debuted about how:
>1.) they as male watchers abandoned Luxiem because Magni mentioned Bionicle or Vesper mentioned whatever male hobby there was in their debut month, and
>2.) they as female watchers switched over to Tempus because of the Vox drama fallout (and how nijiEN started getting drama-ridden by then).
I revisited the accounts that tweeted these and my findings were:
>one guy seemed to just quit watching vtubers in general
>another guy never watched vtubers in the first place and just wanted to dunk on ilunas embarrassment
>one sister just moved to an xsoleil dude instead of completely switching over
>other sister... never tweeted anything since february
Looking at it, Tempus may not be the sole cause, but they are still a contributor by magnifying nijiEN's raunchy, ill-mannered behavior... ironic since Tempus fell to the same pitfalls later on.

>> No.57449244

>>57449172
Isn't that just a coincidence? She just has bad luck

>> No.57449247

>Girls
>T*wa
Nice try, Towel

>> No.57449248

>>57449206
>everyone who doesn't join you in shitting on hololive is a beggar
didn't I tell you to work on your cover sotry last night?

>> No.57449256

>>57448494
I'll drink my own piss if they didn't influence her in the direction of competitive games.

>> No.57449259

> SUB 55k
SUB 55k
> SUB 55k
SUB 55k
> SUB 55k
SUB 55k
> SUB 55k
SUB 55k
> SUB 55k
SUB 55k

>> No.57449261

>>57448797
>Don't interact with the other members enough
>Don't have enough compelling content to make up for it
Basically

>> No.57449268

If the reaction is this bad on twitter 5ch must be on fire

>> No.57449271

>>57449170
>Aki
She didn't.

>> No.57449272

>>57449062
Anon before 2017:
>my data shows that Japan is a dead end for vtubers

>> No.57449284

>>57449271
Did.

>> No.57449287

Sexiest male in the world

>> No.57449285

>>57449123
and that one girl is happen to be good at fps but don't want to join whorizon

>> No.57449288
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>> No.57449295
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57449295

This is like, the 8th 3D show Towa has been on this August

>> No.57449299

>>57449240
>I saw a lot of anecdotes
Yeah, I'll just stop here. Enjoy your mental monologue.

>> No.57449311

>>57448816
>>57448936
That said Roboco is very cute and her cool voice is sexo. If only she didn't play FPS.

>> No.57449313

>>57449268
That's 5ch's tweets though

>> No.57449314

>>57448980
>it's just the execution of the esports stuff is bad
lol
Esports is just a way to con investors into advertising specific games. It's a scam. External companies shouldn't get involved in it. Holos being forced to collab with males and play trash like overwatch is just salt in the wound.

>> No.57449329

>>57449295
This is why she is still in Holobox even when she often streams outside the box

>> No.57449330

>>57449244
They were in a influencers only server to preview the new mode and the homos were playing at the same time

>> No.57449331

>>57448386
>If my holo oshi becomes cocksleeve I will watch vshojo instead
Vtubers are not the only ones who can graduate. When the worst happens we can graduate from being vtuber fans. We should treat ourselves better.
It's not like the end of world. We just go back to where we came from before the vtuber hobby.

>> No.57449341
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57449341

This is the same stage of the purple girls song (Okayu, Towa and who else?) in that live, isn't it?

>> No.57449344

>>57449288
Kek, why is Jap getting so popular in 5ch?

>> No.57449349

>>57449288
AHAHAHAHA JAP WORSHIP CONTINUES

>> No.57449355

>>57449288
MR JAP PLEASE SAVE US

>> No.57449358

>>57449284
That's Flare not Aki. Aki's was just delayed.

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57449364

overlap is stealing at least 10k from Matsuri.
Based Pekora and Aqua.

>> No.57449379

>>57449288
>Horimen
Homocollabers sounds better desu

>> No.57449382

>>57449170
What did their fans did again? Constantly shitting on the management? That's already a PR damage and it happen just because of scheduling issue.

>> No.57449387

c‘mon just 10k more, it’s owl or nothing

>> No.57449397

>>57449364
Pretty good numbers for an overlapped stream. I think Matsuri's highest stream was sub60k

>> No.57449401

>>57449299
I'm just trying to say any evidence to dig up on Tempus actually killing Luxiem is anecdotal at best.

>> No.57449405

>>57449295
Towa’s always been super active within Hololive

>> No.57449415

>>57449344
JP bros saw him saving EN during their darkest hour and now want him to do the same for JP

>> No.57449417

>>57449248
>shitting Hololive
Cover is not Hololive, your pathetic beggar. Your homos are dead and no amount of bootlicking will make them come back. No one who's an actual fan of the girls is happy with this garbage project but it's fucking obvious that you beggars are doing everything to defend it since it's another chance to shove the homos down the throats of Hololive's main consumer base.

>> No.57449426

ENTER IROHA MY LOVE

>> No.57449428

>>57449288
Jap please save us

>> No.57449429

>>57449288
they will need to buy 51% of the company and put Mr Jap in charge

>> No.57449432

GOZARU

>> No.57449434

i'll never understand why businesses try to GO for new audiences.
they never try to expand their product or promote it to acquire a new audience, they always make a new product targeted at a new audience.
Cover, my friend, you don't make new products for a new audience, you make one so your old audience can buy MORE from you.
they buy the new stuff and the old ones when the new one runs out or gets stale.
THAT'S how you make money.
but i get it, they are probably doing this shit because they want to have events that aren't just 3D lives or 3D Variety shows.
but this is just the wrong way to go about it.
they're better off letting the girls actually come up with ideas that will help promote themselves and hololive to new viewership.
Holizontal isn't it.

>> No.57449431
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Gotalu

>> No.57449433

GOZARU

>> No.57449438

>>57449072
You already agreed with me that Tempus made nijiEN lose their fans.
Where did the fans go doesn't matter. That's a misdirection and you fell for it.
I don't care what you feel about the homos. Shut the fuck up lol

>> No.57449442

>>57447619
right? I've been telling this since 4 years ago when he started all of this shit
>hololive gamers
what is he thinking on? what is he going to do next? force the already existing talents into playing videogames too? omg and just imagine if he makes them all regular streamers...

>> No.57449448

>>57449288
Jap should show Yagoo the holoEN viewership data to illustrate what going down this road means for longterm profitability.

>> No.57449454

Massive Fuwamoco incline coming as JP bros migrate to weather the storm

>> No.57449460

>57449153
>Show 2 years of Miko membership
>Nijinigger
Your below room temperature IQ is concerning
I pity your parents for giving birth to a retard

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>>57449364
You forgot the # queen

>> No.57449475

>>57449417
>I don't shit on hololive, I just shit on hololive
This story has never worked since the days of jpniggers "hating chumbuds, not Gura" and it's not going to start working now, nijinig

>> No.57449480

>everyone so far are Holizontal members
What if Holizontal is just a Holo FPS clique???

>> No.57449481

>>57449288
Sorry, nips. Jap has his hands full keeping Kronii from chasing Vesper's cock and keeping Gura from reincarnating in Mythic.

>> No.57449483

>>57449358
Delayed immediately after the complaints about Okayu's 3D live, because hers was from the same place.

>> No.57449485

Gotalu's been appearing in a lot of 3d lives, hasn't she?

>> No.57449488

>>57449466
>1.3 million celebration
>Sub 2k
Jesus

>> No.57449490

doesn't look like 58k stream

>> No.57449498

>>57449364
>is stealing at least 10k from Matsuri.
She's tracking about 7k down from where she was in her ReSTART live, and she had a much stronger collab cast

>> No.57449511

>>57449481
>Mythic beggar

>> No.57449516

>>57449485
The hags groomed her into being more confident

>> No.57449522

>>57449288
Yagoo vs JAP debate soon kek

>> No.57449518

>>57449434
>I'll never understand why businesses try to GO for new audiences.
It's okay anon, it's fine really.

>> No.57449531

>Why do people call her Gozaru? Her name is Iroha

>> No.57449536

Festival's cute wtf

>> No.57449541

HoloX delivering kino as usual.

>> No.57449551

>Lost two prime homos
>Still win the war
Maybe i should switch side, feels bad for unicorn bros.

>> No.57449560

>>57449531
who's iroha?

>> No.57449563

>>57449434
the consumer is wrong and dumb
they know better of course
classic arrogant hubris

>> No.57449565

>>57449454
Lmao, that Nene guy already converted. Dogs are gonna ghengis khan the JP unicorns under their banner

>> No.57449568

>>57449531
>Iroha
who?

>> No.57449573

>>57449531
Her name is Iroha Gozaru

>> No.57449576

>>57449434
>they're better off letting the girls actually come up with ideas that will help promote themselves and hololive to new viewership.
>Holizontal isn't it.
The only projects that seem to work for Hololive are the ones initiated by the talents themselves.

>> No.57449588

>>57449475
YOUR. HOMOS. ARE. DEAD. Give up, sister. Nobody likes this shit, nobody wants garbage involving your male failures and no amount of Yagoo asshole polishing will hide how much of a pathetic beggar you are.

>> No.57449594

That was kinda cringe

>> No.57449603

50K DORYAAAAAAA

>> No.57449608

>>57449588
And let you turn this place into your nijinigger playground? Not a chance nijinig

>> No.57449618

50k get

>> No.57449624

>>57449565
That guy is Taiwanese.

>> No.57449626

The dances so far have been kino. Imagine a nonFPS nonhomocollabing Matuli.

>> No.57449634

50k GET

>> No.57449639

>>57449483
Surely you can provide a timestamp right?

>> No.57449637

I feel like rimjob anon is being justified right now. Feel bad for shitting on him all this time.

>> No.57449641

This concerts is kinda old school with mc sections between each song

>> No.57449644

>>57449588
Holizontal exist sweety, enjoy your daily dose of unity collabs, incel.

>> No.57449642

50K DORYAAAA

>> No.57449657

>>57449588
see >>57449248

>> No.57449662

>>57449644
kys ESLtard

>> No.57449680

Festival still top 3 dancer for me she really moves really well I hope she will do this idol shit rather than spam FPS shits.

>> No.57449682

>>57449662
So you can turn this place into your anti playpen? not a chance nijinig

>> No.57449685

how'd they teach a country bumpkin how to dance like that

>> No.57449692
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57449692

>> No.57449699

>>57449662
Seethe chuddy.

>> No.57449703

uh who

>> No.57449704
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57449704

>>57449588
BASED BEHAVIOUR DESU ~~~~

>> No.57449709

wait who the fuck is this?

>> No.57449713

Oh hey it's hoeshikawa, act surprised

>> No.57449714

Who

>> No.57449720

Who?

>> No.57449723
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57449723

Is that a Niji?

>> No.57449724

Who the fuck is that?

>> No.57449726

Who??

>> No.57449727

majide dare?

>> No.57449728

Literally who

>> No.57449731

>Matsuri 3D
>Still many people talking about HLZNTL
Samefags?

>> No.57449734

ENTER AMANOHOSHI CHIRORU

>> No.57449733

Who the fuck is this

>> No.57449735

>>57448230
>It's okay when FWMC did it
Kill yourself unicucks.

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>>57449608
get new keywords, nijibot

>> No.57449739

>>57448629
>but you know why this one is the one making rounds
It's not necessarily a bad thing, we need as much support as possible against Cover.

>> No.57449740

>>57449709
Her girlfriend.

>> No.57449741

WHO??

>> No.57449749

She's cute but who the fuck is that next to Festival?

>> No.57449752

Shit she can dance whoever this is

>> No.57449755

i don't know this holo
first gen or something?

>> No.57449757

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Who?

>> No.57449760

Roberu's mistress is here

>> No.57449767

Who the fuck is this? She's cute

>> No.57449768

>>57449608
>>57449682
Little beggar thinks calling anyone a nijinig makes him a true Hololive fan. How cute.

>>57449657
They're not coming back, sister.

>> No.57449774

the fuck is this

>> No.57449780

Anyone using firefox but the video froze but the singing still keep going?

>> No.57449791

>>57449738
You can always stop trying to turn this place into your nijinigger playground, anon

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57449793

You people literally didn't learn anything when the sister were making baits with picrel last night, did you?

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57449795

https://twitter.com/amachiroru
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOfuarJ9_C5OAD0mGS7KCyg

>> No.57449801

>>57449713
That's not hoshikawa

>> No.57449800

So, the Mario Kart and Minecraft Tournaments are getting sponsored or just Cover™ original tournaments? Because they should sponsor them at least.

>> No.57449805

>>57449780
download more RAM

>> No.57449809

>>57449768
>eggar thinks calling anyone a nijinig makes him a true Hololive fan
It's probably Kris

>> No.57449826

>>57449768
>He says, as he calls everyone who doesn't join him in shitting on hololive a beggar

>> No.57449827

the choreography has been solid so far

>> No.57449829

Baseball bros...
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOfuarJ9_C5OAD0mGS7KCyg

>> No.57449828

Holy newfag central...

>> No.57449833

>>57449639
>Needs evidence for something a child could sus out

>> No.57449839

Still inclining with a literal who on the screen

>> No.57449846

So is this a 3 view that Matsuri has been grooming for a while?

>> No.57449853

>>57449795
I follow thousands of people on X
Only 3 follow this girl roru

>> No.57449858

Where is Subaru or Korone they would be perfect for dancing live.

>> No.57449856

>>57449800
Nintendo sponsorship? Rumao roru roru.

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>>57449795
seeing the bio doesn't help

>> No.57449865

I just got an ad

>> No.57449873

It's been a long time since i last saw a literal who on Holo concert.

>> No.57449876

>>57449829
Not that chiroru

>> No.57449877

>>57449780
probably neal trying to fuck with adblockers again

>> No.57449880

>>57449680
hard to sell dancing as a marketing point as a vtuber and mocopi is dogshit

>> No.57449884

>>57449839
She's doing better with an outsider than she is with her fellow Holomembers, the Holobox is dead.

>> No.57449907

To her credit, homegirl danced and sang like her life depended on it.

>> No.57449913

>>57449809
Kek, I completely forgot about that creature.

>>57449826
Keep sucking Yagoo's dick, sister. Maybe one day he'll force Gura to collab with the homos under the threat of termination if you ask him.

>> No.57449918

>>57449401
The bulk of Luxiem audience, specially of their heaviest hitters (Vox, Mysta) was chinese and SEA.
Whatever "evidence" you would gather from twitter and other western sources would just validate your pre existing theory without actually validating anything.
One of the strongest reclines came from Vox, the one with almost the entirety of his audience in China.
How would you gather "anecdotal evidence" of any link with Tempus without going to the places his audience gather?

That's a dumb theory and you are taking two disconnected (but real) facts and trying to create a narrative around it.
It is true that Tempus provided a contrast with iLUNA in their first twitter interactions with each other and their respective fanbases.
It is true that Luxiem, the locomotive of NIjiEN growth, reclined heavily.

There is no direct connection between these two facts. There is one indirect connection
>iLUNA debut and first few weeks was so catastrophic to the NIjiEN brand that it really alienated lots of their western fanbase away from what was already a strained relation
Debutting xSoleil so close amplified that damage. All of a sudden there were more of these two new waves than the 10 LOE put together.
Luxiem downfall was a self inflicted damage, they could only insult and put the blame on their female chinese audience one too many times until they got tired of being the butt of the joke and left.

People kid but wanna know what was the pivotal moment that costed Luxiem everything?
>the "Vox insults Sonny mom" incident
and it was not even the incident in itself, but the "talk" Vox had with his audience afterward, which I'll paraphrase as

>Oh, you chinese girls don't need to get your panties in a twist with this!
>Here in the west we banter like that all the time!
>You are chinese, you wouldn't get it!
Those were not his exact words but the spirit of "the talk" was just that:
>bantering and insulting is a western tradition
>chinks wouldn't get it

You can look at any of the charts, Luxiem recline came right after that (and the ensuing long Vox break he took to shake the heat off)

>> No.57449919

THE NUMBERS ARE DROPPING MATULI

>> No.57449926

>>57449846
After her last one, War, graduated? I guess yea.

>> No.57449928

>>57449884
New face is always more interesting than old boring face

>> No.57449932

what the fuck is a propro production?

>> No.57449931

Yeah this live isn't hitting 58k. 30 minutes in and it's only at 50k.

>> No.57449933
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57449933

>>57449861
you should know this girl right?
same company
ProPro

>> No.57449937

Unfortunately, propro is a real black company.

>> No.57449938

>>57449865
Me too, what the fuck is this YouTube

>> No.57449941

>>57449907
yeah, true

>> No.57449945

SHE'S SHILLING HERSELF IN FRONT OF 50K PEOPLE

>> No.57449946

>>57449780
Yes in full screen happens pretty fast fucking Neil

>> No.57449947

>>57449865
Me too. Kek. What is happening to youtube.

>> No.57449949

>>57449793
>expecting retards itt to stop themselves from biting baits
How new?

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