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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*>https://playboard.co/en/>http://ikioi-ranking.com/>https://vrabi.net/>https://www.vstats.jp>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-rankingHololive sites>https://holo.poi.cat/>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html>https://trackholo.live/en/>https://www.hololive-songs.com/Nijisanji sites>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly>https://twitter.com/2434rankings>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber>https://www.nijiuta.com/Twitch>https://sullygnome.com/>https://twitchtracker.com/>https://stats.roki.sh/Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp
>>57447228> Vtuber Chinese
>>57447228>tit monster Miku
>>57447201Yeah because if its supposed to be a big event with money involved, then naturally it should be PPV.No one wants to pay money to watch e-sports though.
>>57447228Miku sexo
>>57447179they sometimes get discussed in /uoh/ because the majority of them are cunnies, especially Awawa, Niina, and Ume (my wife)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d_fXI-7fW0Bring her back YAGOO she will gladly join the HLZNTL team now.
>>57447164Oh, I am not disagreeing here (or even interested). My advice is more on the level of passion you should invest in the subject.People dedicating this much time and energy dwelling on it are clearly in need of meds and some in this thread schizo so hard people already managed to recognize them by the context of their sperg alone.If you are not one of those already, take a giant chill pill lest you become one>tldr: INGEST YOUR MEDICINE!
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>>57447228Recent clip numbers>>57445516>>57445541>>57445604>>57445636>>57445669
So what did we learn from the last thread anons?
>>57447266Kek, will she explain her thought process behind that Apex collab thingy?
>[insert smug shitpost here]
Minna-san, why are you so uppity about HLZNTL?Eh? Don't tell me you're going to watch Nijicucks and Vspocucks instead?Thought so!
>>57447260Take the hint. If you like them, don't ever try to "shill" them in this thread, So far the only thing that resulted was to attract schizos to people that would otherwise be ignored completely
>HOLOLIVE BOARD>HOLOLIVE THREAD
>>57447279Varium = Good
>>57447272
The retweets are quite something, and on that topic, i'm starting to feel like i as an audience member is slowly being marketed more and more "Cover" products rather than the talents themselves lately
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1697187517735571800The most amazing thing is that so many people are criticizing the project using the same account they use to follow holo regularly. Even when you see nips complaining and criticizing directly on twitter, it's NEVER with a main account like that. They always use throwaway accounts or schizoposting accounts.
Enjoy your yearly Mario Kart tournament being replaced by one with the homos involved. But don't worry, they won't be on VC together!
i enjoy funposting while using mumei images.i'm not a hooman.this is my confession that will soon disappear into nothingness
* YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY *>47,216: Pekora (Hololive)>41,070: Aruse Inu (Neo-Porte)>32,789: Miko (Hololive)>30,553: Suisei (Hololive)>30,401: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>29,710: Okayu (Hololive)>23,265: Mito (Nijisanji)>21,053: Shion (Hololive)>20,444: Subaru (Hololive)>17,986: Hololive (Hololive)>15,725: Fubuki (Hololive)>15,649: AZKi (Hololive)>15,589: Kanae (Nijisanji)>12,023: Nene (Hololive)>11,858: Fuwamoco (Hololive)>11,735: Lauren (Nijisanji)>11,411: Furen (Nijisanji)>11,364: Bae (Hololive)>11,289: Kaela (Hololive)>11,080: Kou (Nijisanji)>10,921: Chiroru (Indie)>10,632: Koyori (Hololive)>10,465: Hinano (VSPO)>10,241: Kuramochi Meruto (Nijisanji)
>>57447266No
>>57447200It did get 15k though>>57447078Also we're still talking about it in the /miComet/ thread
>>57447279It's over for holokek
>>57447295fuck off, beggar
The holizontal tweet replies look grim desu senpaiMy notification is being flooded by artists retweeting posts that are critical of this project too, indicating their stance.
>>57447269Hololive makes me feel.Any meds that would affect my behaviour is not good for consuming hololive content.
>>57447311>AUGUST 2023 GOLDS1) Miko (Hololive) - 148,555 - Anniversary 3D Live2) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 53,484 - Radio Program3) Yashiro (Nijisanji) - 57,320 - Koshien Practice4) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 51,111 - Koshien Practice5) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 81,637 - Nijifes Announcement6) Pekora (Hololive) - 104,044 - Mario Party (w/ Marine, Kanata, Koyori)7) Flare (Hololive) - 55,591 - Anniversary Totsumachi8) Noel (Hololive) - 91,382 - Anniversary 3D Live9) Rikiichi (Nijisanji) - 39,244 - Koshien Siren Competition10) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 94,194 - Koshien Pre-Tournament Stream11) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 206,963 - Koshien A League12) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 215,338 - Koshien B League13) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 254,415 - Koshien Finals14) Pekora (Hololive) - 66,070 - Fate/Grand Order15) Aqua (Hololive) - 124,725 - Anniversary 3D Live16) Pekora (Hololive) - 42,994 - Only Up17) Shion (Hololive) - 95,618 - Anniversary 3D Live18) Maimoto (Nijisanji) - 180,341 - Graduation Bait19) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 134,582 - Koshien Highlights20) Mio (Hololive) - 70,279 - Birthday 3D Live21) Tsukasa Tenkai (Indie) - 47,437 - Mahjong League22) Suisei (Hololive) - 36,637 - Summer Bingo23) Pekora (Hololive) - 88,387 - Offcollab (w/ Marine, Aqua, Suisei)24) Toya (Nijisanji) - 56,848 - Outfit Reveal25) Hololive (Hololive) - 66,734 - Holosummer26) Hololive (Hololive) - 54,204 - Splash Party Loading Screen27) Hololive (Hololive) - 162,444 - Splash Party Day 128) Mysta (Nijisanji) - 61,853 - Graduation Stream Part 229) Pekora (Hololive) - 37,723 - Minecraft Summer Festival30) Pekora (Hololive) - 47,216 - Fate/Grand Order Gacha>PER COMPANY16x: Hololive13x: Nijisanji1x: Indie>PER STREAMER6x: Nijisanji, Pekora3x: Hololive1x: Aqua, Flare, Fuwa, Ibrahim, Maimoto, Miko, Mio, Mysta, Noel, Rikiichi, Shion, Suisei, Toya, Tsukasa, Yashiro>2023 GOLDS>PER COMPANY165x: Hololive60x: Nijisanji8x: Indie5x: VSPO4x: Neo Porte>PER STREAMER57x: Pekora20x: Miko16x: Marine9x: Nijisanji8x: Subaru, Toya7x: Hololive6x: Kuzuha, Suisei5x: Aqua, Yashiro4x: Hal, Mio, Shiina, Towa3x: Chiroru, Fuwa, Iroha, Leos, Okayu, Koyori2x: Aki, Flare, Fubuki, Hinano, Ibrahim, Korone, Lamy, Lui, Maimoto, Nerumero, Salome, Shion, Tsukasa, Watame1x: Air, Ayame, Beni, Chloe, Choco, Fuwamoco, Gaku, Gura, Gundou, Hibari, Himawari, Ina, Kaede, Kanata, Kanato, Kiara, Laplus, Lize, Mel, Mito, Mori, Mysta, Noel, Nose, Nozomi, Nui, Polka, Ponto, Qpi, Rikiichi, Roco, Ryushen, Ui
>>57447272>IT'S SO OVER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kCzI6xbQooIs this good numbers?
Gay as fuckmiComet won
but why esports? esports have been dying for some time now
Hololive Youtube channel added Hololive DEV_IS to the channel section with other talents. I think 90% it's JP7
its been twenty minutes is the miçomet cover over miko's anni song?
>>57447305ThisWhen people use throwaways beggars will say it's an anti so there's no other way to criticize it
>>57447007Cover is being dumb by not Acknowledging the criticism that hlzntl has been recieving. The boiling point has already been reached and the nips have been on edge lately, with jp side of management behaving like utter clueless retards. No wonder 5ch was jerkingoff to Jap and FuwaMoco.
>>57447357Because 60 year old men are making the decisions
>>57447359Shitvent status?
>>57447294I've watched the archive, her constant retarded face got replaced by constant smug face
This feels like Suisei has a successful music career and Miko is trying to ride her coattails.
>>57447162thought she said she was gonna take a month of hiatus to >reflect or whatever lol>>57447217kek wtf
>>57447295If your company goes to shit just jump to the next hobby, this is 2023 there is infinite entertainment online l
>>57447312Onegai Yagoo she will collab with Uproar now.
*YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN TALLY*>8/30 DAILY TALLY11,858: FuwaMoco (Hololive)10,801: Baelz (Hololive)9,293: FuwaMoco (Hololive)8,723: Shiori (Hololive)8,615: Nerissa (Hololive)7,704: Bijou (Hololive)7,007: Vox (Nijisanji)6,389: Ina (Hololive)5,985: Luca (Hololive)>EN GOLDS FOR AUGUST 20231) Bijou (Hololive) - 26,316 - American Truck Simulator2) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 28,132 - FuwaMoco Morning3) Shiori (Hololive) - 24,103 - Advent Pajama Party4) Shiori (Hololive) - 31,094 - Unarchived Karaoke5) Mumei (Hololive) - 36,054 - Birthday Stream6) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 33,109 - Karaoke Stream7) Nerissa (Hololive) - 26,823 - Monetization Karaoke8) Gura (Hololive) - 20,176 - Night Security9) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 18,197 - Overcooked (w/ Bijou)10) Fauna (Hololive) - 13,792 - Pokemon Unite Tournament11) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 16,685 - PHOGS12) Gura (Hololive) - 20,185 - Phone Games13) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 28,329 - Karaoke Stream14) Mori (Hololive) - 19,674 - Offcollab (w/ Marine & Baelz)15) Bijou (Hololive) - 15,654 - Holocure16) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 23,148 - Japanese Stream17) Nerissa (Hololive) - 14,106 - Powerwash Simulator (w/ Baelz)18) Gura (Hololive) - 15,562 - Holocure19) Ina (Hololive) - 19,894 - Fate/Grand Order Sponsor (w/ Kronii)20) IRyS (Hololive) - 53,910 - 3D Showcase21) Nerissa (Hololive) - 25,408 - Unarchived Karaoke22) Bijou (Hololive) - 13,661 - Holocure23) Baelz (Hololive) - 28,034 - CouncilRyS Offcollab Baking24) Mysta (Nijisanji) - 28,865 - Luxiem Game Show25) Mysta (Nijisanji) - 50,607 - Luxiem Karaoke26) Mysta (Nijisanji) - 27,715 - Pre-Graduation Stream27) Mysta (Nijisanji) - 64,056 - Graduation Stream28) Mysta (Nijisanji) - 61,853 - Graduation Stream Part 229) Fauna (Hololive) - 11,687 - 3D Switch Sports30) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 11,858 - FuwaMoco Morning>PER COMPANY25x: Hololive5x: Nijisanji>PER STREAMER7x: FuwaMoco5x: Mysta3x: Bijou, Gura, Nerissa2x: Fauna, Shiori1x: Baelz, Ina, IRyS, Mori, Mumei>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)74p: FuwaMoco29p: Bijou28p: Mysta25p: Nerissa23p: Gura, Shiori13p: IRyS11p: Fauna8p: Baelz, Mumei7p: Kiara, Mori6p: Luca5p: Ina3p: Kotoka
>>57447303the consequences of going public. all of this happened just to fund a big 3D studio that they can't use anyway.
Cover made a big mistake and now is suffering from the recent big expansion and mass hiring they did because they had a big war chest. They are wasting money in flop projects because the new hires in charge of making new things needed to justify their salaries in some way
>>57447279The numbers thread should really be renamed to the overreact for yous thread
>>57447355AAAAIYEEE
sponsorship money > stream revenue/talent merch from which Cover get's almost nothing because of cutstherefore no longer pandering to the core audience/viewer of the individual girls
Here is Matsuri Top 10 so far in her career>peak :: date :: title :: video_id>66045 :: 2022-07-22 :: 【#夏色ReSTART】BIRTHDAY 3DLIVE~今日はまつりが主役~ :: oFn0ZypcaM8>49961 :: 2020-10-28 :: 【新衣装お披露目】本気の新衣装!ラフ案まで全部見せますッ! :: a79OC870YZY>47673 :: 2021-07-22 :: 【#夏色まつり生誕祭】4回目のバースデー :: C-J0mGVamNc>46038 :: 2020-07-28 :: 【新live2Dお披露目会】生まれ変わったまつりを見て!! :: g2InKgUPAA4>40185 :: 2021-12-11 :: 【#冬でも夏色ライブ】寒い冬に夏色を感じませんか!? :: WELdC0CxYFc>38762 :: 2022-07-09 :: 【第3走者・夏色まつり】1期生Live2Dver3.0お披露目リレー :: KiFOcZA6QvQ>38334 :: 2022-12-25 :: 【 #ホロクリスマス歌枠リレー 】目指せ5曲歌います/Singing KARAOKE :: 6GWlS05L2D0>37724 :: 2021-06-04 :: 【#ホロカラ覗き見】ホロライブのカラオケを覗き見!? / 3Dstream :: ZsVnMMOm74Q>36448 :: 2023-07-30 :: 【#ホロサマ歌枠リレー】水着お披露目!歌枠 :: VRGTsJFIUiM>30766 :: 2020-07-22 :: 【#夏色まつり誕生祭3D】夏色まつり誕生祭2020本日の主役はこのまつり!! :: bxy2oLe7VwUHer live is in 35 min or so>PREDICTIONS?!?I'll be bold and say it beats 66k but mostly because there is nothing on today
>>57447295Holo fans will continue to watch Hololive. I don't think they gonna watch Nijisanji.
>>57447376the fans will buckle as soon as they see their oshi laughing along with a fleshstreamer. SSRB did it. koronesuki did it. others will follow.
>>57447391other way aroundsuisei is leeching mikochi
>>57445470>while High profile holos Will steer clear.I hope they don't. The only way Cover will actually hit the brakes on this stuff is if their top cash cows end up taking a fall for this too. But, as long as the first army is stable then they won't care.
>>57447357Because Cover, sitting on a goldmine sees their competition invest in fancy coal mines where half of them are just for show and they really want some of that coal
>>57447272>Cover signed the Illuminati contractWe're declining. Owari Da.
>>57447404>2023 EN GOLDS>PER COMPANY178x: Hololive60x: Nijisanji3x: Holostars1x: Idol>PER STREAMER23x: Fauna21x: Gura, Mori17x: IRyS, Mumei14x: Baelz, Ina, Mysta13x: Kronii10x: Amelia9x: Kiara, Vox8x: FuwaMoco4x: Bijou, Pomu, Selen, Shu3x: Nerissa, Nina, Ren2x: Alban, Finana, Hololive English, Ike, Luca, Shiori, Wilson1x: Enna, Elira, Flayon, Fulgur, Luxiem, Millie, Petra, Regis, Roca, Rosemi, Sonny, Vesper, Bandage>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)222p: Fauna166p: Ina161p: Mori156p: IRyS141p: Mumei129p: Baelz114p: Gura105p: Mysta101p: Kronii92p: Kiara83p: Amelia79p: FuwaMoco74p: Vox67p: Luca37p: Shu34p: Bijou31p: Selen28p: Nerissa27p: Shiori25p: Pomu24p: Nina19p: Ike16p: Ren15p: Enna, Fulgur14p: Sonny, Uki13p: Finana, Millie11p: Axel10p: Alban, Elira, Hololive English, Wilson9p: Vesper7p: Regis6p: Rosemi, Bandage, Kotoka5p: Flayon, Luxiem, Petra, Roca4p: Magni, Bringer3p: Bettel, Hakka, Poko1p: Kyo, Maria, Meloco, Shinri, Pippa
>>57447357they fell for the memeironically the same year literally everyone else, ESPECIALLY big sponsors are bailing out of esports
>>57447357Japan has always been slow at adapting to trends
>>57447359holo vta
>>57447399Nice statement broNow actually believe in it
I just want to see pekora collab with her jun once again just like the good old days
>>57447399People ain't gonna vanish over this. If Holo's content overlaps with its competitors, chances are Holos will come on top.
effortless 10k for pekora
Holos that 100% will participate in holizontalRobocoMatsuriFubukiMelShionChocoAyameTowaBotanNeneChloeLuiIrohaLaplusHolos that might participateSuiseiSoraAzkiAkiAquaSubaruKoronePolkaLamyHolos that will never participateMikoPekoraMioOkayuFlareMarineKanataWatameNoelLunaKoyori
>>57447391Suisei and Miko are a lesbian couple and they love each other.
Top Most viewed 3D showcase (IRyS + Myth Edition)1. Gura - 1,140,167 views : Mar 3, 20232. Ina - 549,744 views : Feb 19, 20233. IRyS - 443,081 views - Aug 20, 20234. Mori - 413,554 views : Feb 26, 20235. Kiara - 359,950 views : Feb 25, 20236. Ame - 346,184 views : Mar 4, 2023
>>57447420She hasn't been relevant for 2 years, 40k tops
>Marines new song hit 8 million views>Mori Collab with Reol still a ways of 1 millionMust feel good for senchou to mog them both
>>57447401Should've learnt to keep your mouth shut and follow instructions, too late for that now
grim
Imagine the kino if Subaru actually gets to be the manager of an esports team.
>>57447357If you read the comments from Esports orgs they are honestly banking on Cover to jump start the Esports boom on Japan.
>>57447295STOP KILLING HOLOLIVE'S BRAND BY EMULATING THE IRRELEVANT COMPETITORS FAGOO!!!!
Is pekosanji really going to stream over another holos special event AGAIN?
I blame Tokyo for HLZNTL
>>57447447This is a parallel activity thoJust because they do more gaming doesn't mean they are going to abandon idol activities
>>57447492>Ame.....Was it shorter or something?
>>57447489
>>57447506Marine is the queen of jp
>>57447492>3. IRySHow? that's like 1 and a half week ago
>>57447478Anon let's be real here a week before the announcement, girls like Chloe or Irys would have been in the "100% will not" category. They will all participate if Cover puts enough pressure.
>>57447468What you think it's so hard to queue a different video on YouTube while gaming?
>>57446999>Being a walled garden is what gave the popularityHololive has three strengths1) talent 2) not cocksleeve 3) no toxicity When I saw miko ding ding ding clip or Korone water in the fire why clip, I found them funny and cute, I didn't even know if they are homocollabers.If miko Korone is chronic cocksleeve like Enna I would run like hell. Even if Enna is not a cocksleeve she couldn't hold a candle to Miko Korone or replicate what they do. This is the power of holo talent.Even if Enna has talent and not a cocksleeve she's toxic as fuck. If I want toxicity I can get the premium stuff on twitter. With these 3 strengths combined holos destroy most female chuubas especially western ones. Becoz they can't provide these 3 things in one package
>>57447534>How? that's like 1 and a half week agoIt was actually good.
>>57447515Why are kikeks like this?
PLAVE 15K
>>57447399Lol no
>Nijiniggers using HLZNTL to shit up threads and as a free pass to anti HololiveSasuga
>>57447525She will end for sure for matsuri.......maybe
>>57447548If it was easy you wouldn't be here bitching about it
>>57447515council gigamogged by holoX yet again
>>57447478>LamyNo way fag, she mentioned on a member stream that she would be open to professional male collabs and she got so much pushback from yukimin she had to retract almost immediately
>>57447569>t. cover intern
>>57447528Anon, holos have limited time and a really packed schedule. Wasting time and resources on e-sport projects in 2023 is retarded. And if you shoehorn homos, then it's a travesty
>>57447517sports manager manager as in the one passing around drinks and cleaning shirts.
Holoen doko?
>>57447569tolerated for being funny
>>57447534she is based
>>57447569Pretty much, to a "Spamming / Flooding" point. I can only imagine how slow this thread could be right now with one (1) bloke getting ganked
>>57447556sadly they're not a vtubers and doesn't want to be acknowledge as one
>>57447572Beryl will be the queen of vshojo.
So lemme get this straight, cover hires a bunch of cute girls and asks them to act like cute idols, then years later decides to rope em into esports? Why not let the girls do what they're good at and hire people that are actually good at video games?
>>57447335Post example
>>57447492uhhh even though IRyS loses ccv to Ina, She might win with view counts soon.
>>57447521>EMULATINGAnon, this move is basically killing the competition by sheer brand power. If everyone is doing the same things, you think Hololive will lose?
>>57447470Maybe nips are more passive, but western audience already got burned several times in the past decade+, be comics/film/serial/videogames ecc just fucking hop the next hole doesn't have to be vtubers
>>57447606Yeah anon because mods totally do work here
>>57447595Why's kanae on twitch?
>>57447595Damn Pekora actually mogged them all if we are just basing on hours watched.
>>57447305Fubuki needs to put her foot down already. If her big speech about trusting her had any merit at all it's time she made good on those words and pull Cover management back into line
>>57447481You can go back now and jerk off in your containment threadAlso don't forget to take your HRT
>>57447579based yukimin fight for what they like
HOLY GAYEST OF GAYS
If it was marketed better I can see some Holos benefit from Horizontal. Not every Holo is suitable to pursue the idol path after all
>>57447638Well, you can always do your part and whatever happens happens
>>57447534A lot of good musical performances, I have been rewatching it occasionally.
>>57447646>Slipped to iron mouse
>>57447619>and hire people that are actually good at video games?What do you think DEV_IS is? It's obviously going to synergize with Holizontal.
>>57447357hololive has been too comfortable at the top lately. We've reached a point where cover just throws shit at the wall out of boredom. The Passion is dying in Cover and with Over 500 employees it's a given that a majority of them aren't even hololive fans. We're declining. It's over.
suddenly I think a mixed gen was probably not really that far of in the past seeing how they are doubling down on that holopro shit
JWU. What am I mad at?
>>57447645When is this btw? is there an specific time?
>>57447534You know how
>>57447625nta but what i have seen is just one schizo artist
>HLZNTLThe beginning of the end for Hololive, this is just like that retarded Ai Kizuna clone. God dammit Cover.
>>57447478Okay now make one for EN
>>57447607Source?
>>57447678No, just sometime in September
>>57447578Because it's still worth
>>57447525It’s a watchalong what’s wrong?
>>57447295I'll watch Gura only, and that means 2 streams a month
>>57447649But Fubuki supports the shilling of the homos.
>>57447687And the nijinigger reveals himself at last
>>57447619Or just buy out Vspo and make that their e-sport branch
>>57447689holizontal is a primarily JP project.
>>57447649>Trusting fbk in 2023I already stop trusting her at kanata case
dev_is the first mixed gender esports gen for holizontal, creating a new esports branch?
>>57447587No they don't. Ayame, Laplus, Towa, and others have been doing gaming shit on their RM accounts. This just makes it more convenient for them.
>>57447659The only mistakes are the homos inclusion and forcing holos that doesnt want anything to do with it
>>57447534Irys is sexrys
Yaraon raid kitaaaaaaaahttps://i.imgur.com/gDk7mYe.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/hkFwcLD.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/F9Y2Z8z.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/KUaEAgx.jpg
>>57447469She never collab with him. What “good old day”?
How has Tempus' viewership/performance been affected by Magni and Vesper's "graduation"?
>Mumei Brought 16 packs of Mac & Cheese to Japan>Some of them where Vegan cause she thought Fauna might want someMan this girl is Autistic
>>57447713>IRyS, THE EN GFE kneeled and was forced to participateEN isn't safe anon
>>57447734>Newfag
>>57447712Cover doesn't have the financial chops to tangle with Brave Group.
>>57447718Kanata? Qrd plx
>>57447741What? They let her cross customs with food?
>>57447339Mumei....
>>57447726>forcing holos that doesnt want anything to do with itExample of this?
>>57447702It's still rude.
https://audition.vspo.jp/en/
>>57447659The only Holo who would be remotely interested in this is Towa and she's more interested in her singing career
>>57447619>hire people that are actually good at video gamesGirls being good at games don't make them more entertaining.
>>57447750Sorry I don’t follow, afaik Pekora never collab with Jun
>>57447777Why is flare in there
>>57447534Full concert instead of being filled with fumbling around.
>>57447492HoloID 3D showcase:1. Moona - 828,248 views : Sep 20222. Risu - 448,639 views : Sep 20223. Iofi - 448,639 views : Sep 20224. Anya - 375,749 views : Jul 20235. Reine - 278,434 views : Jul 20236. Ollie - 225,647 views : Jul 2023
>>57447774nene and lui
>>57447569>t. Yagoo
>>57447793Lots of rewatches for that mermaid part too, no?
>>57447747What does that tell you about future gens like EN4, ID4, EN5, ID5 etc?
>>57447413You can only get sponsorship money if you have an audience to make yourself worthy of sponsoring, and it's a time proven fact that Holo's audience doesn't care for sponsorships as the CCVs for those has continuously shown. If they tip the balance too hard on the side of sponsorship they'll just burn away through the audience's goodwill until companies start questioning if it's really worth the investment.
Can't wait for DEV_IS to effortlessly mog Flopvent. The hype for a new JP gen is at insane levels right now. They might even break 200k for their debuts and hold 50k+ for their first month at this rate.
>>57447689Not him but here's my predictionHolos that 100% will participate in holizontalMoriAmeKroniiBaeIRySShioriHolos that might participateInaMumeiBijouHolos that will never participateGuraKiaraFaunaNerissaFWMC
>>57447684sankon has drawn a lot of holo fanarts in the past but went into hiatus. his retweets are the first thing to come from his acc in years
>>57447637Vtuber fans will continue to watch vtubers. And they will flock to the most popular vtubers.
>>57447798Add irys too
>>57447725They are doing shit on their RM accounts because they want to play with their personal accounts or with people they can't play in hololive. Holizontal won't fix that shit because it's sponsor backed stuff
>>57447747She speak japanese and live on Japan soil, now please get Fauna out of there ASAP.
yeah, Cover getting rid of the "personal brand" concept for their talents for the futurecompany above else
>>57447775Why?Since the beginning there were no rule against it. If you hate it then complain to Cover to make it a rule instead of bitching to like 5 people browsing this thread rn
>>57447797>2. Risu - 448,639 views : Sep 2022>3. Iofi - 448,639 views : Sep 2022Amazing coincidence or you pasted the wrong number?
>>57447579Yukimin are the strongest fanbase after all
>>57447762Nigga you can cross customs with food as long as it's not in a fucking tubberware or something
>>57447649But HLZNTL only makes Hololive stronger tho
>>57447492>>57447797>VOD copeMoona still mogged your shark in CCV. 87k vs 67k.
>>57447659>Not every Holo is suitable to pursue the idol path after allThis is stupid. Wasn't the entire lesson of the Coco graduation "don't hire chuubas who aren't fit to be idols"? Obviously, the EN and ID branches have more tolerance in regard to this because they're second-class citizens, but still.
HLZNTL feels like a way to shill the homos using sponsorship money as a disguise.
>>57447747She was asked by the other girls, retard.
>>57447826I still remember when Nijinigger were saying focusing on the company brand is better than talent brand as far as profit goesCover is going down that route rn
>>57447798Can management even force any holo to do anything? If they can, why did they force them to collab with Homo now and not before?
>>57447817That's a truly delusional take
>that anon samefagging hard with posts replying to no one
>>57447650If you don't report you are part of the problem And at worst you can piss on their thread
>>57447859Yes, and?The point is even IRyS kneeled, no one is fucking safe.
>>57447849That's not true anon
>>57447803Not gonna bother rewatching it since it's already clipped in everywhere. I'm only rewatching it because she sang "Stand By You". I wonder when will she make an official cover for it.
>>57447856HoloX already proved that JP is commited to hiring idols. DEV_IS will be no different.
>>57447687You think Hololive fans will suddenly become Nijinog fans? lol
At this rate i wont be surprised if we get another CN members
>>57447848Yeah this is a disaster. Not a single soul is interested in this shit and they're pissing off their main fanbase badly. What the fuck is Cover thinking
>203 / 42 / 59 Thoughts?
>>57447815People would have put IRyS in the bottom section before the Overwatch thing.
Kek
>>57447806>futureI fully expect Nerissa and Shiori to do homocollabs one day. Biboo and FWMC might not, but those other 2? Yes, absolutely.
>>57447867I've had no issues bringing in boxed shit that needs to be cooked home. They only really restrict you for pre-cooked goods or shit like meat or vegetables
>>57447712What does that achieve exactly?
>>57447866"Unicorn Queen" Chloe joining something like this is a much bigger deal than a sidebranch shitter like IRyS joining.
>>57447815>ShioriThe girl who despises games, especially fps games.
>>57447848If cover double down when this kinda shit happen,I out and quit vtubing
>>57447815I severely doubt IRyS will ever do this shit again. Maybe if it's girls only, but otherwise she'll avoid it like the plague.
>>57447815>ShioriThe one that has outright stated she hates competitive pvp games, do you form your opinions entirely from vt shitposts?
>>57447848Once again my question is what platform does Cover use to gauge their fans interest and reception?
>>57447892>Thoughts?You tell me. Thread is at horse race speed (almost beating 10 posts per minute) without any horse race.Poster count is not going up either so it is clearly one or a couple of anons spamming on cooldown
>>57447909>Bibo plays league>Holostars and IDs plays leagueDo you see where exactly this goes?
>>57447726>forcing holos that doesnt want anything to do with itnijiseethe
Who are Matsuri guests? I am fucking waiting
>>57447357Have you seen esports in japan? It's one of the few areas that can make money because nips will go to in person events and buy merch. Even for vsaikyou Hal rented out a bunch of movie theaters and showed it in them and people paid to go to it.
>>57447815Fauna absolutely would under the same pretense as IRyS where she doesn't have to be in VC with them.
>>57447938>defending homo inclusionYou're not fooling anyone, beggar.
>backreadHoly mental illness
>>57447933None. They will only take hint when their revenue is impacted
>>57447848they are just gonna ignore any criticism and brute force their vision onto the fanbasehappened with comicshappened with video gameshappened with tabletops and dndhappended with movies and tv showsetc.the consumer is wrong and they are right
>>57447861They can "force" them with incentives.
>>57447815Fauna would if they got another Pokemon thing and it was only girls from Hololive
>>57447526Fubuki was the MC for Valorant hlzntl and Overwatch hlzntl. Clearly she's the culprit. Just one Collab with IRyS was all it took to rope her in to participate.
>>57447822That just invalidates your rrat that holos don't have free time to do what they want.
>>57447848I'm glad because I hated when it was just me complaining like Chicken Little.
>>57447940Im coping for IRyS because she's nowhere to be found today.
>Lower end holo has a 3D live today with hope that people will tune in and watch>Pekora: HEY SO IM OVERLAPPING YOU EVEN THOUGH I HAD MY ENTIRE COMPANY BACK ME UP WITH OVER A DOZEN PROJECTS THIS YEAR TO PROMOTE ME AND ME ONLY
>>57447943Yeah lmaoLast Vsaikyou was fun because of how much Hal invested into it. I swear where does this guy get his money from? Pure 100% sponsorship money?
>>57447910Then you need to travel more
>>57447815Kronii won't do it.
>>57447848Finally JPbros are waking up, I think watching theTempus disaster from distance made them realize if they stay silent cover will definitely fuck up your branch.
>>57447832>2. Risu - **525,786 views** : Sep 2022My bad
>>57447935Phase beating NijiEN? Interesting
>>57447880>HoloX>Commited to hiring idols>Laplus, Lui, Chloe?
>>57447957So win-win then. Unless the girl wants both incentive and fans
>>57447857That's a good thing. Tempus already stole some of the Luxiem fans.
>>57447977It’s a watchalong niggaIt’s not gonna steal tourist from anyone
Matsuri BdayyyMatsuri GoldGod is HOLOLIVE
>>57447977pekora has earned it
>>57447914Not even the first time Chloe did it. IRyS is much more shocking.
>>57447967Learn the difference between leisure and work
For clarification>>57447492 (me)>>57447797 (not me)
>>57447947Who do you think you're fooling, nijinigger?
>>57448011kek, yeah, look at that mass of chinese fans Tempus got!
>>57447861if your boss asks you to help your company with their new big project that is going to help bring them onto a new level and needs to succeed or everyone in the company will take a hit, you can't just say "no"
>>57447848This Nigga is speaking the truth
>>57448020Gold is 58kShe haven’t even revealed her guests yet, shit gonna be tough
>>57447529showed her 3d miniconcert on her BD like 3 months before the showcase. It's more of the same debuff. Also meh show meh ccv.
>>57447953>They will only take hint when their revenue is impactedHolostars is still a thing
>>57447670>blind
>>57447860You don't make any sense.
>>57448028IRyS is just a sidebranch nobody. Chloe is part of JP's flagship gen. HoloX is practically the face of holoJP these days.
>>57447464I wonder if that'd be competitive.
So anyway with Cover on the way out, who will capitalise on their mistake and take over as the premier all-female idol vtuber corpo?
>>57447892Mental illness. Rangeban SEA.
>>57447977>Seething about a sub 10k Pekora streamkek
>>57448058>HoloX is practically the face of holoJP these days.This is how I know nijiniggers don't watch hololive
>Cover is on top of the vtuber industry for years>Cover sees other corpos doing **mildly** well for themselves>"Oh, we should be more like them!" Ngl, it would be really funny if Hololive ends up tanking their own profits for no other reason than because they got bored of winning.
>>57448028>Can interact with other girls that rarely she collab>Gets money tooWhen she knows she no need to interact with males, she will accept it
Is it too early?https://youtu.be/2TfWo3GsIII
>>57447861>if you don't accept then no 3D Lives for the next year
>>57448058Anons in here won't get (You)'s if they don't use ENs to shitpost.
>>57448063There's talk of Aviel expanding his business into Japan lately.
>>57447980I think they also sell merch, but yeah most is sponsors
I don't mind male/female collabs, but trying to make an E-sports team when most of the females suck at games and only 2-3 males are decent at best is the stupidest decision.
>>57448047This honestly, everyone is there for the talents, if the company is going to pull some soulless shit they are fucking retarded to use up the goodwill of the talents instead of their own.
>>57447947kys nijinog
>>57448063People hates Cover but love hololive
Reminder, this is what Matsuri is up against today
Anyone remember when astroturfers shilled Tempus as a sexpest-free nijiEN for bros? How did that go?
>>57447569As resident holochad. Keep quiet retards. We all already know that Nijinigs are all pathetic BOOTLICKERS. Maybe by lurking these threads they'll learn something something for once and they'll see the TRUE image of the average holochad. hololive is popular because of the Talents hardwork AND the fans, you know?
>>57447977Make you wonder huh
>chloe>unicorn queenHoly shit my sides
>>57448106Did they have the Live2D for each or it's just cardboard cutout?
>>57448043Tempus pretty much killed nijiEN. It's competition at work.
So iryskeks it was a one time thing right?? She won’t join more homo tournaments right????
>>57447947t. nijinigger
>>57448039>>57448104Your homos are dead and the rest of that pathetic branch will never incline even if Cover forces every single girl to collab with them.
>>57447957So they’re forcing them by paying lots of money?
>>57447974That means she's with Kronii.
>>57448096Can’t imagine Vsaikyou merch sell that much
>>57447977Pekora hates gays with a passion and matsuri is one of them certified gays.
>>57448119HOLY AUTISM
>>57448044We also had Nene saying that her manager was very insistent that she should be diversifying to other things and pushing her to take part in the Valo tournament.
>>57448057>Blinder
>>57448099>I don't mind male/female collabsI do. So, yeah, even if it wasn't an esports thing, I wouldn't support it.
>>57447848>let the holomem do what they wantmanager gaslight them to think the whole whorizon is a good thing now, see Nene
>>57448128>Tempus pretty much killed nijiENHow? Explain the process that happened
>>57448044We're talking about Hololive here, not Nijisanji.Holos can definitely sa "no" unless you have evidence to the contrary.
>>57447534why are we pretending 3/5 myth aren't... you know
>>57448099>"oh those esports things? yeah, the kids like that. let's go into that"
>>57448009What kind of black company logic is this?
>>57448169Yes, they can say no but they can be guilt-tripped by their personal manager
>>57448164bettel convinced mysta to graduate
>>57448063>who will capitalise on their mistake and take over as the premier all-female idol vtuber corpoOf course none. Why do you think Yagoo made this move?Check mate.
>>57448122pekosanji strikes again
>>57448185>head canon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Trs-SFvMtYoThread theme
We're esports now?
>>57448127It’s all live2D
>>57448208Hololive only grows stronger
>>57448164It didn't. Anon is assuming that the fact that Luxiem's numbers dropped near the time Tempus debuted means Tempus killed them.The reality is that around the time Tempus debuted the "EN male vtuber" novelty just died in general.
>>57447569Hololive fan. I hate it and will openly oppose it. I won't be written off as a nijinigger while the enemy is in the gates. I will be a Cover anti as long as they keep doing this shit.
>>57448149QRD:>Nene plays VALO randomly while waiting for her mother.>People brush it off as a one off.>Tweets she was watching the VALO tournament and then did a VALO stream not long after some matches finished.>Tensions slowly start rising between fans who hate FPS (75% of Holo fans at least on the JP side.)>Does a weird APEX stream to announce her outfit with like 5 kills in one match or something>People are confused why she chose APEX to announce it.>Has a shill stream for VALO's new game mode apparently instructed by her manager.>Plays VALO with the people who everyone knows they play off stream with various streamers and males and they think they'll try to get Nene involved.>Fans suspect she's already doing it just by association and flip completely leaving comments and quitting membershipShe then talked about it in today's stream:> Got into hololive wanting to be an idol with the most "field experience", had talked with her manager about this as well.> Apparently she was told she has to have qualities in other fields as well, not just in idol activities.> So she wondered what she should do to get such experience in other fields.> Knows that most of her fans followed her due to her idol activities, but that's coming into conflict with the duties she is given as a corporate VTuber.> Some fans asked her to not do stuff that goes against being an idol, and if she's going to move forward with it, to not call herself an idol anymore.> Understands the complaints but says that she can't earn a living through idol activities alone.> She couldn't say that she would stop doing it (the supposed anti-idol stuff), but still wanted to convey her dedication to her fans.> As a corporate VTuber, she cannot always do what she wants, and is obligated to "expand her horizons" and "change according to the times" (whatever that means), so she couldn't truthfully say she would stop doing it.> "If you're not going to stop, then farewell, Nenechi." - received a lot of comments like this, from long-time members she knew the names of.> Acknowledges that none of them slandered her or anything, just said their goodbyes and left.> Understands the fact that a lot of her fans followed her for the idol stuff, but feels that the current range of her content is rather limiting, and thinks that it will eventually suffocate her in the future.> Wants to try various new things, and she is required to do a lot of things from now on as well.> Understands why long-time fans would leave when her content is changing, but feels regretful and troubled that she can no longer reciprocate the type of content that they ask of her.> She feels that her fundamental dreams and activities have not changed, she still loves being an idol and participating in concerts.> She just feels like it's expanded. But she also cannot say anything to people who feel betrayed by this either.> Didn't want to discuss all this while the preparations for the Live was happening, so kept quiet, and it all came out.
>>57447676Yeah. If Advent failed, EN4 mixed gen might be in the cards. 3 females + 2 males.
Sometimes completely defeating the enemies comes with a price. Think about it>Homobeggars: completely defeated, Magni and Vesper graduated, numbers in the dumps>Nijibeggars: completely defeated, Mysta graduated, numbers in the dumpsAll they have now is to stick around and try to shit the place up.
>micomet drop idol duo cover>Asuizu drop individual idol covers and a duo cover on the stars main channelCoincidence?https://youtu.be/M3UNonus3SI
HLZNTL sponsors probably are mainly for JP esports maybe some ID esports which are mostly mobile games.>LoL might get holoen but they don't need it since there are pros/koreans etc that will get better numbers than them.>Valorant high chance since they are desperate rn and they are sponsoring anyone to increase their viewership.>Overwatch honestly the only thing I know about their esports is they suck at it and they are literally botting viewers so their sponsors backout.>FGC don't have money to hire anyone they don't even have big prize pool.>CSGO/CS2 don't need to hire anyone they will get carried by Brazil/CIS and honestly the whole community is great so don't need to hire anyone.>Dota2 unless the saudi prince wants holo and sponsor them I doubt they would hire anyone since they really don't do those shit.>Apex don't need to hire EN just hire JP>RocketLeague/COD/Rainbow/SC2 etc too small doubt they would hire vtubers to promote their shits.
>>57448200all tumbling down... capitalism kills everything i love i am a communist now
>>57448169They can be sweet talked into it, the girls may be oblivious to the negatives, because managment only told them about the positives
>>57448123Retards probably saw her farming SC and then think she's unicorn queen
>>57448106Is Roa there?
>>57448228Post memberships.
>>57448192Varium. i beleeb. i can see them catching the distressed fanbase when Cover decides to implode with their shitty decisions lately.
>>57448044Pretty sure at least some of the big names will start pushing back after this. The 60 year old ojisans in management might be out of touch but the holos themselves are seeing the reaction and there's no way Marine or Lamy will let manager incompetence sink Hololive without a fight
>>57448164Tempus showed everyone that nijiEN's fujobaiting meta was bad that was why their fans stopped watching them and switched sides.
>>57448122>>57448195Suisanji deflection
>>57448257>and switched sides.To where?
>>57447687Still won't watch your bargain bin livers and 2 view shitters. Go beg somewhere else.
>>57448009retardchama you do know work-to-rule is an action a worker can do to protest, so what happens when Cover does that to one of their contracted talents? They will only provide exactly what is outlined in the contract and do whatever it takes you miserable... or you just do the homo holizontal collab
>>57447747I'm worried for Fuwamoco what with them being able to speak jap and all. I can already see some rat fuck Cover manager trying to leverage their idol ambitions by saying they need to 'play ball' if they expect to get 3D events and whatnot.
>>57447964Fubuki had always taken the MC role for a lot of projects, Towers always pursued competitive tournaments.
>>57448185Okay, nijisis
>>57448169>Forgot about Kanataso
>>57448267holoange
New Holos?
at least she's happy I guess
kek
>>57448299>Ollie>Holoskek
>>57448243You know what? This sound plausibleIt’s always the most retarded girls who get hooked into these things
>>57447848It's funny that most complain about Holo being overworked
>>57448228Doesn't matter cause you don't have much of a choice. You still gonna watch Hololive.
>>57448230Yeah...Yeah......This does not bode well.
>>57447940She hasn't said. Nene retweeted it and Towa said she was appearing in a stream tonight so maybe them but Towa's thing could just be her showing up in Ollie's mint chocolate video lol
>>57448288>say no>get broom closeted
Here comes a fat Akua funnel
>>57448230Post timestamps, nijisis
Fuck Holotori, Fuck Umisea. Where's my fucking Holohorns Yagoo?
*dance*
>>57448324that shit is like a month old
>>57448272Enjoy all future cuck tournaments!!!
>>57448169Saying no strongly might be a bit...you know?I don't think management is being malicious, they are just being incompetent retards and can't understand how Hololive actually works
> 2K followers
>>57448230>"expand her horizons"this was already over from the start...
>>57448319Meanwhile Gura...
>>57448338right into my mouth and all over my face
>>57448267Shhhhh quiet No mercy
>>57448361Thanks for the mask drop
>>57448321>You still gonna watch Hololive.No? If my oshi starts collabing with males, I'll drop her. If everyone starts collabing with males, I'll go watch VShojo or Idol, or Phase. You know why? Because at that point, what's the fucking difference between them and Hololive?
I find this mixed gen coping really funny. Carry on, thank you.
>>57448254I would've believed you if you said Verse-n
>>57448354Who are they possibly?ChocoIRySWatameLaplus...????
>>57448230Thank fuck EN are lazy and dont know japanese
>>57447933Judging by how their bureaucracy works, these messages will be read by the CM, then passed to the higher ups who will put them on hold until they pass it to another higher up, until it's been months since the initial outrage happened and the nip boomer in charge of the project dismisses it because he can't do wrong
>>57447720Do Your Reps, Retard-kun. It's an Idol unit and they're all wearing idol outfit. Why are you dumb?
>>57448230Fucking grim, had heard nothing of this.Nenechi...
>>57448383
>>57448044Man, this is an entertainment industry with the talent as the main product, they can straight up say no, sure you'll be on the company's bad side but it will never warrant a suspension or, hell, graduation. They're not you and I, grunts in a normal company that can be replaced without major repercussion.
>>57448360And we're currently seeing what she meant by implying that things are changing. So, yeah, it does not bode well.
>>57448296Still made me laugh when I remember that happened
>>57448386>If everyone starts collabing with males, I'll go watch VShojokek, that was one of the worst impersonations of what you believe the Hololive fandom to be and shows a complete ignorance of what keeps people watching Hololive and ignoring VShojo
>>57448404
>>57448270That's irrelevant.I'm glad you agreed with me about Tempus killing nijiEN tho.
>>57448383I still wonder why you crop the screenshot there, screenshot the whole sentence bro
>>57448392Sonychuubas are too "literal whos" to get noticed by people, as much as i wanna agree with you.
>>57448393Fauna
>>57448383NTA but the fact you have these saved is hilarious, you're clearly in love
>>57448230lol, she's basically done. No way she can incline like this. Her dumbfuck manager should be fired.
>3D studio is conveniently "too busy" for regular 3D lives>the top JPs suddenly start focusing on game content instead>pekora puyo tetris tournament is a great success, completely eclipsing every single 3D live in hololive history>cover begins to shift focus to the esports marketThis whole thing feels scripted.
>>57448321It's crazy how much I used to watch Korone, all of her 24 hour streams without a rest. One of her streams was 36+ hours and I was there for all of it after already been at work that day.I haven't watched her since the 3D live.
>>57448404Mitolive
>>57448253I hate Cover and what they're doing. I am a Cover anti and I take pride in it. I will not lick their boots.
>>57448309Ramen shop selling sushi is actually very common. Bad analogy.
>>57448436They might copystrike me
>>57448427
Antis have their work done for them by cover, they're having a party
>>57448230>Can't earn a living through idol Activites aloneWhat. She gets thousands of dollars in membership, superchat and merch income every month. Fucking Roboco bought a new place in Tokyo with cash
>>57448369>horizontal It was already owari da.
>>57448272Yagoo, I kneel.>>57448366I still won't watch your oshi, nijisis.
>>57448149>>57448230IIRC her manager only told her to try not being a one trick pony(tunnel visioning into idol route), playing FPS is Nene's own answer to that.
>>57448439Fauna has branches, not horns
>>57448208Yea I'm currently watching ESL Pro League
Today cucklive was bornSo excited for gura to join the homo jp tournaments
SHUT UP FAGGOTS, THE FESTIVAL HAS STARTED
>>57448440She loves niji so we must preserve this treasure
You can thank Suisei for the homo segregation
/#/ IS INCLINING! LETS GO
>>57448321I do have the option. I can watch netflix, I can play games, I can watch anime, watch documentaries etc
>>57447228Nearly no overlap ateshi kanji go 22kIs this grim or my numberfagging skill reclined?
>>57448431>That's irrelevant.It's not irrelevant. It is an integral part of your argument which got "elided". So far your reasoning is1) Luxiem is sucessful2) Tempus showed everyone that nijiEN's fujobaiting meta was bad 3) Luxiem fans stopped watching them and switched sides.So far your argument does not support that "Tempus killed NijiEN" because point 2) is backed by no evidence and point 3) has a fatal flaw: in order for someone to "switch sides" they have to go from Luxiem to "the other side".Which other side is this?
I wonder why hasn't anyone @ yagoo and ask him to explain himself?
>>57448494>knows the only other option is art which is not an option for Nene
>>57448520>lets collab more>segregationlearn english retardchama
>>57448506They are literally horns you retarded faggot.
>>57448533She was at 29k at some point
>Gura disappears with EN management forcing the homos>she comes back when the graduation of the two fags got decided>she disappears again when she finds out about HLZNTL shilling the homos
>>57448482Nice username
>>57448462saved!
>>57448474
So JPchads, do you feel in control?
>>57448483She's dumb as fuck. Her manager was manipulating her
>>57448386Because it's Hololive, anon. Your oshi is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.
>>57448230Is this what might be happening to LoDong?
20k in 2 mins
Festival is pretty cute today
>>57448494She could have begun to learn an instrument like Luna, just get a guitar and a yamaha sponsorship
>>57448549because he has become a puppetdid everyone forget that they took all his power after the taiwan incident?
>>57448567too bad she's fighting against the jap management themselves, so it's not going to be an easy one.
>>57448407But they can easily do stuff like block you from getting other sponsored stuff or not let you use the studio in response if you refuse.
>>57448605thats idol shit
>>57448230>Knows that most of her fans followed her due to her idol activities, but that's coming into conflict with the duties she is given as a corporate VTuber.
>>57448483I'm pretty sure that one is mistranslation. Someone posted the correct translation after that but you know why this one is the one making rounds.
>>57448594I'm good, thanks.
>>57448425Yea, that was a sloppy false flag attempt. Most Hololive fans that got fed up over this shit would probs just stop watching vtubers altogether.
>>57448601Wouldn't Hololive just pick up alot of the former Nijisanji fans if something like that came to fruition or is there too much bad blood and tribalism?
>>57448555Cope
>>57448230What the fuck am I reading?
>>57448627Still better than playing nu-fps garbage that no one in her audience wants to watch.
>>57448638Like with every activity, people just go do whatever else they do
>>57448462Nta, but I never believe this sort of screencaps because some anon used to made threads about membership once in a while and anon will post these sort of screencapsTake a shot of your screen with your handwriting on a paper or show hand
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90WD_ats6eE
>>57448567Gura needs to take the doggos under her wings before that purple male gets a hold of them
Shut the fuck up about esports and giving attention to Twitter retards, watch matuli being cute
That talk Lamy is suddenly starting to make sense.
>>57448663>reddit memes
>>57448526No you don't. You're going to stop watching them eventually for the same reasons you started watching vtubers and Hololive.
>>57448407>They're not you and I, grunts in a normal company that can be replaced without major repercussion.they fired their top 2 biggest superchat earners. if they have no issues doing that, they'll McFuckingdoit again!
>>57448679Lyger already gives her enough attention every evening
God Matsuri cannot sing what the fuck is this? How do you fuck up this song this bad?
30K. 60K possible?
>>57448230Is this actually real or bait
>>57448663Negi u floating?Who are u kiddin with
>>57448655The word you were looking for is desegregation Mr Pagpag. Suisei was not the cause that the homos got put into camps, she was the cause that they got to leave the camps and co mingle with the general public according to you
>>57448727real
Was this recorded at an external studio? The lighting looks weird. Reminds me of Okayu's 3D live.
>>57448679matsuri is so out of the holobox it's not even funny anymore
30k get
>>57448663>holodeath
>>57447530Izuru, Anya, Marine. Tomorrow will be an EN or a holostarsEN, with the other the day after.
>>57448638This is correct. Hololive is not just competing with other vtuber corpos but other forms of entertainment too. If I don't watch hololive, I'll just play more video games.
>>57448719Heavily depends on Guest I think, but it's gonna be tough.
>>57448680>The member post explaining she won't do male collabs on her channel but sponsored stuff will be unavoidableOk this is grim. Massive pushback is needed to turn Cover off this course
Aqua+Pekora overlap it's over.
>>57448719No. This will crawl to 40k and plateau there.
>>57448758>Izuru>MarineNot in your wildest dreams, beggar.
>>57448679>festival >cuteQue?
>>57448719>30K. 60K possible?She's tracking the same as her ReSTARThttps://vrabi.net/video/oFn0ZypcaM8she'll likely match it
>>57448727Apparently, it is behind membership so who knows?
Am I insane or the video fidelity of this live is kinda High? This looks way better than Splash day 1
Anyone else feel like Festival's singing voice has gotten worse?
>>57448443Top JP literally have always play games for stream the fuck you talking about?
>>57448745How do you fall out of the Holobox? Also is anyone else outside of the Box at this point?
>>57448788matuli is very cute
>>57448663tf happened to Star Flower? They wasted such a good unit.
>>57448794she got a nose job a few months back
>>57448797RBC
>>57448727Real but from a month ago, right after the gen 5 concert happened
>>57448745Announcing that she's unironically seiso was career suicide
>>57448758>izuruStill trying?
>>57448751oh yeah I think that is about to be a thing given the direction they're going with holizontal
>>57448812It's never alive to begin with
>>57448471Nigga really fear clippers lol
Aqua hate.
why do normalfags always try to destroy what I love?
>>57448793The screen behind look much more smoother compared to other lives
>>57448770Aqua is reading SC and told her viewers to go watch Matsuri.
>>57448846it's fine. they're japanese normalfags.
>>57448727It's real. Nene cried about losing her members. Why the fuck she thought FPS was the best way to diversify her activities nobody knows.
>>57448655Illiterate esl retarded shitposting midwit.
>>57448758You're so fucking blind, it's obviously all new people.
>>57448846Because you are minority
>>57448794Sorry am too hard on her throat.
>>57448797Get the cops called on you.
ENTER AKI AND NENE
>>57448797Constant outside collabs without interacting enough with the rest of the girls
I will take Kanata still being there as my only assurance that the soul isn't entirely dead yet
Enter Aki and Nene
37k at the start of the collab part
Aki really moves well in 3Ddang
>>57448852She still will lock in 10k.
>>57448846cause you have shit taste
>>57448837She already went to superchat reading.
Who are the fucking guests Matsuri??? Who started this whole “Le surprise guest” trend?
>>57448860She thinks she is Aqua, Towa, or Suisei?
>>57448860GRIM NUMBER!
Speak of the devil
>>57448852Retards probably have Matsuri on a second tab, since she still has 15k
>>57448885>kanata>soulKek
I don't think Matsuri's gonna make it
>>57448797>How do you fall out of the Holobox?It's not hard. People that don't relish their relations with the other girls get forgotten by their fanbases>Also is anyone else outside of the Box at this point?Roboco, for a different reason>she just doesn't put herself out there
>let's go do it PLAP PLAP PLAPwhat did they mean by this
>>57448914I can't remember but it was supposed to have died after Korone brought a 3d man
40k in 10mins. We have a horse race gentlemen
>>57448885Kanata also assured that she'd quit if they force her to do it again. As much as that is reassuring, I'm also deathly afraid since the chance isn't 0 given what cover is fucking up right now
... choreo is getting better
Here's a tough one: which one do you think would be better for Hololive, holizontal or debuting english language vtubers who stream during euro hours?
Interesting choreo and performance
Nene is the cutest and the sexiest.
>>57448679Matsuri is both cute and a whore. It's a shame. I see matsuri as cute but I can't bring myself to get invested in her at her. Yea those insane yabs and lies of her
>>57448831How exactly?
>>57448846That's literally just the natural process of all hobbies. >Thing is made by rejects and outcasts looking to have fun>Thing gets spread through word of mouth>Normalfags start enjoying thing>Normalfags sanitize it, change it, and ruin the thing>The rejects and outcasts who started it go do something else>The normalfags find that thing too>Repeat 100000000x
>>57448228BASED. Don't let the beggers and nijinigs trick you into thinking otherwise. hlzntl is poison that should be expelled with haste.
>>57448543You're wrong, anon.My premise was that "Tempus made nijiEN look bad" and therefore "it made their fans leave them behind".The fact that you conceded to that makes your argument regarding where their fans went completely irrelevant and beside the point.
>>57448940No way 60% of Nijisanji gonna lose to Matsuri right?
Meh, it's just the execution of the esports stuff is bad. Just debut new girls with abilities that are suitable for that area. Some comments mentioning it too like gamers gen 2. If you want to try something new, you debut new girls along with it.
>>57448812it wasn't really a "unit", they just brought them together once for a song and I guess it was too big a unit for them to bring back for splash party
40k for blonde butts!
>>57448952I would rather have an entire gen of romanian gypsys than that holoanti project
>>57448622>block sponsorSure they can but it doesn't really matter if your cashflow is sufficient.>block studioNow that just stupid, imagine birthday coming and a talent say "Sorry guys no 3d, management told me I can't use studio for a while."At the end of the day, Cover management usually just use their favorite move called guilt tripping.
>>57448952Why can't the current girls stream? EU hours is basically regular working hours in NA, so they're awake and biologically at their most active at that time of day.
>>57448921>half of sankisei overlapping the 3d liveDid festival do something to them or something?
>>57448919Towa is one of her best friends in Hololive, maybe that had something to do with it? There are dozens of other ways she could have tried making different content without pissing off her core fans though.
>>57448940The trajectory isn't good, it would take a serious buff to push Matsuri to gold.
>>57448860Do you have the link and timestamps?
40k DORYYYA
>>57448982it's not the unit size that's the problem, the issue is that every single member in that unit already has a ton of other units they are already part of apart from azki
>>57449003>Sorry guys no 3d, management told me I can't use studio for a while.Like they have been doing this year?
>>57449011I like how you ignore Aqua who is holding the most viewer away from Matsuri
I've just accepted cover is too retarded and that its on the fanbase to punish bad projectif tomorrow every other company but cover collapsed and a new one would arise who's gimmick is vtubers doin clown shows for like 1/5th of hololives numbers,the morons at cover would launch project clownzontl cause they want a piece of that
>>57448493I'm sorry that my oshi is not management and the company Tribaltards like you are hilariousYou end up acting like Nijiniggers with how much you bootlick management and Cover
>>57449024It's members only content
>>57449005Probably because they have hard data that shows EU is a dead end for them.
This was recorded during Holofes?
>>57448975>My premise was that "Tempus made nijiEN look bad" and therefore "it made their fans leave them behind".That's even more retarded than what I believed you were saying.>Tempus showed that there is a much better alternative than Luxiem, then Luxiem fans went away (but didn't take that better alternative)That's retarded as fuck. Tempus did fuck all, except tank the Hololive EN branch and split the fanbase.Thank God their worst leeches got graduated
>>57448952>hydrogen bomb vs coughing babyOh gee, anon. I wonder which one is worse, the project that is once again forcing homos where they shouldn't be or more girls.
>>57449062We've seen your data anon, last time you were bragging about dollars when it lost to EU
>>57449013To be fair, playing Valorant with friends is funShe probably it's safe because no male in valiant exhibitions
>>57448970
>>57449060what's the stream title?
>>57448952?One is a side project and one is the main projectHow retarded are you? They are completely different
>>57449013It's normal for young Japanese people to be into shit like valo, it's not her fault that Cover was pushing a half finished idea.
>>57448970>Dogs chase away fake fans.png
>>57449039Specifically happen to one girl?
>>57449096Where did I say that I had that data?
>Lui
>>57449059Oh look it's the nijinigger who thinks bootlick is the next new buzzword he can just spam on repeat and that'll make the thread into his personal army
>>57449123Aki and Okayu both had to use an external studio that they paid for themselves
>>57449099They got matched against a homostar team and Towa had to damage control by switching 2v2 games until the homos stopped queuing
AAIIEEEE MALE with LUINEEE
ENTER LUI AND A MALE
>song is girls>there's a male inside
>Sing Girls>There is boy in the groupWhat does this mean?
Male on stream
>>57449153You beggars are really doing everything to defend this garbage project, huh?
AIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE MALE COLLAB
I love Towacock
>>57448860Because antis at Cover want them to go heavy in FPS
ALL MALES AAAAIIIEEEEEEEEEE
>>57449153This your new modus operandi sis? I know you're mad at cover for "forcing" your sexpest homo oshis to graduate but you will never gaslit us to accept this project.
>>57448543>point 2) is backed by no evidenceI saw a lot of anecdotes on Twitter back when Tempus debuted about how:>1.) they as male watchers abandoned Luxiem because Magni mentioned Bionicle or Vesper mentioned whatever male hobby there was in their debut month, and>2.) they as female watchers switched over to Tempus because of the Vox drama fallout (and how nijiEN started getting drama-ridden by then).I revisited the accounts that tweeted these and my findings were:>one guy seemed to just quit watching vtubers in general>another guy never watched vtubers in the first place and just wanted to dunk on ilunas embarrassment >one sister just moved to an xsoleil dude instead of completely switching over>other sister... never tweeted anything since februaryLooking at it, Tempus may not be the sole cause, but they are still a contributor by magnifying nijiEN's raunchy, ill-mannered behavior... ironic since Tempus fell to the same pitfalls later on.
>>57449172Isn't that just a coincidence? She just has bad luck
>Girls>T*waNice try, Towel
>>57449206>everyone who doesn't join you in shitting on hololive is a beggardidn't I tell you to work on your cover sotry last night?
>>57448494I'll drink my own piss if they didn't influence her in the direction of competitive games.
> SUB 55k SUB 55k> SUB 55k SUB 55k> SUB 55k SUB 55k> SUB 55k SUB 55k> SUB 55k SUB 55k
>>57448797>Don't interact with the other members enough>Don't have enough compelling content to make up for itBasically
If the reaction is this bad on twitter 5ch must be on fire
>>57449170>AkiShe didn't.
>>57449062Anon before 2017:>my data shows that Japan is a dead end for vtubers
>>57449271Did.
Sexiest male in the world
>>57449123and that one girl is happen to be good at fps but don't want to join whorizon
This is like, the 8th 3D show Towa has been on this August
>>57449240>I saw a lot of anecdotesYeah, I'll just stop here. Enjoy your mental monologue.
>>57448816>>57448936That said Roboco is very cute and her cool voice is sexo. If only she didn't play FPS.
>>57449268That's 5ch's tweets though
>>57448980>it's just the execution of the esports stuff is badlolEsports is just a way to con investors into advertising specific games. It's a scam. External companies shouldn't get involved in it. Holos being forced to collab with males and play trash like overwatch is just salt in the wound.
>>57449295This is why she is still in Holobox even when she often streams outside the box
>>57449244They were in a influencers only server to preview the new mode and the homos were playing at the same time
>>57448386>If my holo oshi becomes cocksleeve I will watch vshojo insteadVtubers are not the only ones who can graduate. When the worst happens we can graduate from being vtuber fans. We should treat ourselves better. It's not like the end of world. We just go back to where we came from before the vtuber hobby.
This is the same stage of the purple girls song (Okayu, Towa and who else?) in that live, isn't it?
>>57449288Kek, why is Jap getting so popular in 5ch?
>>57449288AHAHAHAHA JAP WORSHIP CONTINUES
>>57449288MR JAP PLEASE SAVE US
>>57449284That's Flare not Aki. Aki's was just delayed.
overlap is stealing at least 10k from Matsuri.Based Pekora and Aqua.
>>57449288>HorimenHomocollabers sounds better desu
>>57449170What did their fans did again? Constantly shitting on the management? That's already a PR damage and it happen just because of scheduling issue.
c‘mon just 10k more, it’s owl or nothing
>>57449364Pretty good numbers for an overlapped stream. I think Matsuri's highest stream was sub60k
>>57449299I'm just trying to say any evidence to dig up on Tempus actually killing Luxiem is anecdotal at best.
>>57449295Towa’s always been super active within Hololive
>>57449344JP bros saw him saving EN during their darkest hour and now want him to do the same for JP
>>57449248>shitting HololiveCover is not Hololive, your pathetic beggar. Your homos are dead and no amount of bootlicking will make them come back. No one who's an actual fan of the girls is happy with this garbage project but it's fucking obvious that you beggars are doing everything to defend it since it's another chance to shove the homos down the throats of Hololive's main consumer base.
ENTER IROHA MY LOVE
>>57449288Jap please save us
>>57449288they will need to buy 51% of the company and put Mr Jap in charge
GOZARU
i'll never understand why businesses try to GO for new audiences.they never try to expand their product or promote it to acquire a new audience, they always make a new product targeted at a new audience.Cover, my friend, you don't make new products for a new audience, you make one so your old audience can buy MORE from you.they buy the new stuff and the old ones when the new one runs out or gets stale.THAT'S how you make money.but i get it, they are probably doing this shit because they want to have events that aren't just 3D lives or 3D Variety shows.but this is just the wrong way to go about it.they're better off letting the girls actually come up with ideas that will help promote themselves and hololive to new viewership.Holizontal isn't it.
Gotalu
>>57449072You already agreed with me that Tempus made nijiEN lose their fans.Where did the fans go doesn't matter. That's a misdirection and you fell for it.I don't care what you feel about the homos. Shut the fuck up lol
>>57447619right? I've been telling this since 4 years ago when he started all of this shit>hololive gamerswhat is he thinking on? what is he going to do next? force the already existing talents into playing videogames too? omg and just imagine if he makes them all regular streamers...
>>57449288Jap should show Yagoo the holoEN viewership data to illustrate what going down this road means for longterm profitability.
Massive Fuwamoco incline coming as JP bros migrate to weather the storm
>57449153>Show 2 years of Miko membership>NijiniggerYour below room temperature IQ is concerning I pity your parents for giving birth to a retard
>>57449364You forgot the # queen
>>57449417>I don't shit on hololive, I just shit on hololiveThis story has never worked since the days of jpniggers "hating chumbuds, not Gura" and it's not going to start working now, nijinig
>everyone so far are Holizontal membersWhat if Holizontal is just a Holo FPS clique???
>>57449288Sorry, nips. Jap has his hands full keeping Kronii from chasing Vesper's cock and keeping Gura from reincarnating in Mythic.
>>57449358Delayed immediately after the complaints about Okayu's 3D live, because hers was from the same place.
Gotalu's been appearing in a lot of 3d lives, hasn't she?
>>57449466>1.3 million celebration>Sub 2kJesus
doesn't look like 58k stream
>>57449364>is stealing at least 10k from Matsuri.She's tracking about 7k down from where she was in her ReSTART live, and she had a much stronger collab cast
>>57449481>Mythic beggar
>>57449485The hags groomed her into being more confident
>>57449288Yagoo vs JAP debate soon kek
>>57449434>I'll never understand why businesses try to GO for new audiences.It's okay anon, it's fine really.
>Why do people call her Gozaru? Her name is Iroha
Festival's cute wtf
HoloX delivering kino as usual.
>Lost two prime homos>Still win the warMaybe i should switch side, feels bad for unicorn bros.
>>57449531who's iroha?
>>57449434the consumer is wrong and dumbthey know better of courseclassic arrogant hubris
>>57449454Lmao, that Nene guy already converted. Dogs are gonna ghengis khan the JP unicorns under their banner
>>57449531>Irohawho?
>>57449531Her name is Iroha Gozaru
>>57449434>they're better off letting the girls actually come up with ideas that will help promote themselves and hololive to new viewership.>Holizontal isn't it.The only projects that seem to work for Hololive are the ones initiated by the talents themselves.
>>57449475YOUR. HOMOS. ARE. DEAD. Give up, sister. Nobody likes this shit, nobody wants garbage involving your male failures and no amount of Yagoo asshole polishing will hide how much of a pathetic beggar you are.
That was kinda cringe
50K DORYAAAAAAA
>>57449588And let you turn this place into your nijinigger playground? Not a chance nijinig
50k get
>>57449565That guy is Taiwanese.
The dances so far have been kino. Imagine a nonFPS nonhomocollabing Matuli.
50k GET
>>57449483Surely you can provide a timestamp right?
I feel like rimjob anon is being justified right now. Feel bad for shitting on him all this time.
This concerts is kinda old school with mc sections between each song
>>57449588Holizontal exist sweety, enjoy your daily dose of unity collabs, incel.
50K DORYAAAA
>>57449588see >>57449248
>>57449644kys ESLtard
Festival still top 3 dancer for me she really moves really well I hope she will do this idol shit rather than spam FPS shits.
>>57449662So you can turn this place into your anti playpen? not a chance nijinig
how'd they teach a country bumpkin how to dance like that
>>57449662Seethe chuddy.
uh who
>>57449588BASED BEHAVIOUR DESU ~~~~
wait who the fuck is this?
Oh hey it's hoeshikawa, act surprised
Who
Who?
Is that a Niji?
Who the fuck is that?
Who??
majide dare?
Literally who
>Matsuri 3D>Still many people talking about HLZNTLSamefags?
ENTER AMANOHOSHI CHIRORU
Who the fuck is this
>>57448230>It's okay when FWMC did itKill yourself unicucks.
>>57449608get new keywords, nijibot
>>57448629>but you know why this one is the one making roundsIt's not necessarily a bad thing, we need as much support as possible against Cover.
>>57449709Her girlfriend.
WHO??
She's cute but who the fuck is that next to Festival?
Shit she can dance whoever this is
i don't know this holofirst gen or something?
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Who?
Roberu's mistress is here
Who the fuck is this? She's cute
>>57449608>>57449682Little beggar thinks calling anyone a nijinig makes him a true Hololive fan. How cute.>>57449657They're not coming back, sister.
the fuck is this
Anyone using firefox but the video froze but the singing still keep going?
>>57449738You can always stop trying to turn this place into your nijinigger playground, anon
You people literally didn't learn anything when the sister were making baits with picrel last night, did you?
https://twitter.com/amachiroruhttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOfuarJ9_C5OAD0mGS7KCyg
>>57449713That's not hoshikawa
So, the Mario Kart and Minecraft Tournaments are getting sponsored or just Cover™ original tournaments? Because they should sponsor them at least.
>>57449780download more RAM
>>57449768>eggar thinks calling anyone a nijinig makes him a true Hololive fanIt's probably Kris
>>57449768>He says, as he calls everyone who doesn't join him in shitting on hololive a beggar
the choreography has been solid so far
Baseball bros...https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOfuarJ9_C5OAD0mGS7KCyg
Holy newfag central...
>>57449639>Needs evidence for something a child could sus out
Still inclining with a literal who on the screen
So is this a 3 view that Matsuri has been grooming for a while?
>>57449795I follow thousands of people on XOnly 3 follow this girl roru
Where is Subaru or Korone they would be perfect for dancing live.
>>57449800Nintendo sponsorship? Rumao roru roru.
>>57449795seeing the bio doesn't help
I just got an ad
It's been a long time since i last saw a literal who on Holo concert.
>>57449829Not that chiroru
>>57449780probably neal trying to fuck with adblockers again
>>57449680hard to sell dancing as a marketing point as a vtuber and mocopi is dogshit
>>57449839She's doing better with an outsider than she is with her fellow Holomembers, the Holobox is dead.
To her credit, homegirl danced and sang like her life depended on it.
>>57449809Kek, I completely forgot about that creature.>>57449826Keep sucking Yagoo's dick, sister. Maybe one day he'll force Gura to collab with the homos under the threat of termination if you ask him.
>>57449401The bulk of Luxiem audience, specially of their heaviest hitters (Vox, Mysta) was chinese and SEA.Whatever "evidence" you would gather from twitter and other western sources would just validate your pre existing theory without actually validating anything.One of the strongest reclines came from Vox, the one with almost the entirety of his audience in China.How would you gather "anecdotal evidence" of any link with Tempus without going to the places his audience gather?That's a dumb theory and you are taking two disconnected (but real) facts and trying to create a narrative around it.It is true that Tempus provided a contrast with iLUNA in their first twitter interactions with each other and their respective fanbases.It is true that Luxiem, the locomotive of NIjiEN growth, reclined heavily.There is no direct connection between these two facts. There is one indirect connection>iLUNA debut and first few weeks was so catastrophic to the NIjiEN brand that it really alienated lots of their western fanbase away from what was already a strained relationDebutting xSoleil so close amplified that damage. All of a sudden there were more of these two new waves than the 10 LOE put together.Luxiem downfall was a self inflicted damage, they could only insult and put the blame on their female chinese audience one too many times until they got tired of being the butt of the joke and left.People kid but wanna know what was the pivotal moment that costed Luxiem everything?>the "Vox insults Sonny mom" incidentand it was not even the incident in itself, but the "talk" Vox had with his audience afterward, which I'll paraphrase as>Oh, you chinese girls don't need to get your panties in a twist with this! >Here in the west we banter like that all the time!>You are chinese, you wouldn't get it!Those were not his exact words but the spirit of "the talk" was just that: >bantering and insulting is a western tradition>chinks wouldn't get itYou can look at any of the charts, Luxiem recline came right after that (and the ensuing long Vox break he took to shake the heat off)
THE NUMBERS ARE DROPPING MATULI
>>57449846After her last one, War, graduated? I guess yea.
>>57449884New face is always more interesting than old boring face
what the fuck is a propro production?
Yeah this live isn't hitting 58k. 30 minutes in and it's only at 50k.
>>57449861you should know this girl right?same company ProPro
Unfortunately, propro is a real black company.
>>57449865Me too, what the fuck is this YouTube
>>57449907yeah, true
SHE'S SHILLING HERSELF IN FRONT OF 50K PEOPLE
>>57449780Yes in full screen happens pretty fast fucking Neil
>>57449865Me too. Kek. What is happening to youtube.
>>57449793>expecting retards itt to stop themselves from biting baitsHow new?