/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>57370606
not as toxic as IRyStocrats

>>57370707
IRystocrats are self-insert goslingniggers. What can a bunch of Ryan Goslings even do?

>>57370606
Do you mean hololive fanbase? Besides a few the vastly majority would have to give such statement or the backlash would be pretty great

>>57370606
>toxic
Go back to xtwitter, troon.

>>57370606
kys troon

>>57370606
Lui is just fragile and conflict-avoidant, which isn't a bad thing. Especially when she made it clear that she had male collab before, and had no indication of stopping in future occasion.

>>57370606
Who the fuck even is her target fanbase? Like honestly, I can't seem to think of a possible niche she fulfills

they don't mind her getting railed on-stream as long as she tells them it didn't count

>>57370606
You lost sister, stop barking

>>57371493
Clipfags love Lui's model but honestly she's basically HoloJP of Aia from Niji. Like they don't even HAVE dedicated antis and schizos.

>>57370606
If you member her and turn on push notifications it’s like getting texts from a needy girlfriend.

>>57370802
Start a Ken movement.

>>57370606
She and IRyS chose to stream with males

>>57371326
>>57371366
Troon is trany, right?

>>57371493
she's a holohag. hags in hololive are a special and very precious resource, show proper respect.

>>57371924
money>fans

>>57372052
Tell me exactly why should I watch her and not one of the other more popular ones

>>57372117
Because she is extremely entertaining, plays interesting games and is kind to her fans? la+, for instance, is much more popular but I can't stand her bitchy behaviour.

>>57372056
Irystocucks cant deny this

>>57372034
Yeah, but a particularly ugly and obvious one.

lui fanbase isn't toxic. lui is just that based

>>57370606
I say without a hint of irony I adore Takane Lui

I love her model, how it blends OL and dictator
I love how she's the real leader of her gen, while letting La+ be a meme figurehead
I love her music, her BGM, her original songs, her covers
I love her cool little headwings
I love her delinquent past and her neesan present

She will be the mother of my children, I will make her happy

>>57372837
do you promise to have and hold her
for better for worse
for richer for poorer
in sickness and in health
to love and to cherish
to smell her farts until death do you part?

>>57371493
A fanbase that is not mentally ill like you.

>>57370606
Why do nips hate her? Don't think I've ever heard anything bad about her here, but for some reason she's one of the most hated holos on sukikira, even more hated than fucking Rushia.

>>57376701
wasnt she the one with the atm yab a while back
hardly the worst thing though

>>57370606
Maybe her ATM joke hit nips way too hard so she has to be very careful with her words now. Honestly I have no idea.

>>57376945
>atm yab
She was, though the meaning was eaily missinterpreted as she only wanted to refer to the AI as a fan of Hololive because it made a dumb move, helping out in the process

>>57370606
No, it just means Lui is incredibly based.
Which of course she is, she's a hag

>>57370606
>1752
they seem pretty nice and considerate, they just politely not show up to a stream they don't like

>>57377273
Based UNIGODS

>>57376701
Hag, it's a debuff in japan.
She's too honest about her shitty disfunctional upbringing and japs resent that because it makes the country as a whole look bad. They even have a term for people like that, it's something along the lines of "rotten people".
Additionally a lot of people see her as La+'s boss/tardwrangler so wherever Le- does something retarded it reflects badly on Lui.

>>57370606
keeping us unicorns at heart

>>57377943
>Hag, it's a debuff in japan.
Yet almost every holo in their top 10 is a hag.

>>57378203
Their roommates are hags, not their models or their voices. Lui's design/voice/attitude/presentation exudes older woman and the japs are unironically put off by it.
Marine incorporated it into her character as a point of self-deprecating humor because she's a genius, plus her roommate isn't actually that old.

>>57377943
So the whole country is autistic? Blessing in disguise that none of them know how to use their dicks over their.

As a Luitomo, I can safely say she wasn't being directly attacked for her decision to participate in the Overwatch game. She has the habit of periodically egosearching. Whenever she sees anything that has even a mild chance of being an issue (even when it's not a big deal), she'll address it in a very kind, but honest way. It's one of my favorite traits about her.

Also, she said she has no plans for traditional male collabs. She just isn't ruling out the involvement of men when it comes to other projects, such as appearing on that talk-show-thing. Very few people would complain about their oshi appearing on a talk show.

>>57370606
They still remember when she called hololive fans ATM machines and laugh about it.

>>57381407

>>57381562

her statement is a deflection of after party, drinking and doing discord orgies
the homos are winning big time

>>57370606

Luis fans only care about her bald head.

>>57378989
>So the whole country is autistic?
Yes.

>>57371621
Her And Aia are literally too positive to outright hate

Isn't this the one that called her viewers ATMs and laughed

>>57381626
HOT! Wish I could join
https://files.catbox.moe/alqs3b.jpg

>>57381616

>>57370606
She did a poor job of handling the situation. I don't see how them choosing to not watch is toxic.

>>57382760
Counterpoint.

>>57377273
>10k, 10k, 12k, 15k, 9k, 10k
>1.7k
Holy hell. It's obvious multi view collabs, they pick other members more often, but that's one hell of a low.

>>57383154
To be fair, it's Overwatch.
Fuck Overwatch.

>>57381949
She called a npc atm not her viewers. She still apologized for it since she knew autistic people would get mad at it

>>57377943
Always so sad to see nips cannibalize themselves. I'll give her a good home.

>>57383428
Which is funny. Only a small handful of people were intentionally interpreting it incorrectly to stir up shit. It wouldn't have mattered if she didn't address it. Everything would've been fine. She still chose to do so anyways to clear up misconceptions for that incredibly small minority.

Lui love!

>>57385101
Ayame did make the ATM joke at her fans unironically so Lui being the smart cookie that she is clarified her own position so her fans understood

>>57370606
Nigger, tell that to the unicorns across all fanbases.

>>57370606
Welcome to Hololive audience, a bunch of incels.

>>57375780
>not mentally ill
>literally went apeshit
>lui had to calm their retarded minds down

>>57388411
>when addressing the situation in mamber posts or streams gets nothing but support
>gets red supas with "unicorn" behaviour, resulted in being a greyfag
Every. Single. Time

>>57388774
>member complains, gets remembered as someone they don't like
>creates throwaway account to SC real opinions, not risking their real account
>other viewers don't have the balls to do the same, just don't watch streams they don't like

Homobeggars you lost

>>57370606
>fanbase
You mean the ATMs?

>>57371621
>>57381893
Aia got a lot of hate here at first because big words are spoopy scary, but I guess it fizzled out

>>57378989
>is the country that shits chuuni manga, mechas, idols and weird as fuck tv autistic?
I don't know anon, you tell me

>>57392421
>not risking their real account
If they're gonna move on there's nothing to risk

>>57393173
right, but if the SC makes a difference they aren't moving on.

>>57370802
Drive.

>>57385240
Ayame’s fans are ATMs though. She only goes to them to grab some cash and then fucks off.

>>57370606
i wouldnt care if she goes collab with males since i dont watch her, but koyori would not have male collabs in the first place.

gen 6 hasnt been doing so well, so i think lui and chloe just gave in to the brand value and the easy money, but still handling things like koyori is the best from a long term view. the homo collab was counterproductive overall.

>>57376701
Why is la+ so hated again?

>>57371800
Doflamingo looks amazing in the new netflix adaptation

>>57394794
Not an idol and way too much yabe around her. Break controversy and her real identity is known by most jp fans it's not a secret at all when you compare to others fanbase where most of fans don't know or don't care about real identity. And she is kind of a slut irl almost Rushia level.

>>57394743
Holox as a unit failed but individually they are doing great. Koyori is amazing, Chloe is going good but she decreased her streaming hours a lot, Lui got a massive boost by playing rpgs and doroken and Iroha, despite her irregular streaming schedule always does very good.
The only one who failed spectacularly was laplus (she’s also the reason why the unit fell off so hard: she always dips off gen collabs and her yabs just granted her a place in the top 10 most hated vtubers in Japan) and despite that she still gets decent views (not that much SCs though).

>>57396154
People knowing her identity is not the issue. Everyone knows who Azuki is, who Subaru is, who Pekora is, who Marine, koyori, miko, towa, nene, etc and they are not hated. She’s hated because of what she has done and because of how she is as a person. That’s all there is to it.
>>57376701
Don’t really pay attention to sukikira. That site is schizo central. Yes, you can find legit criticism but when you see where girls like pekora and recently even Miko (she’s been getting review bombed since October 2022) are placed it’s retarded to take it seriously. For example Miko’s downvoting is only because there are legit antis there: they mock her because she became Tokyo’s tourism ambassador, they try to make up shit because they legit have nothing on her. Then you check first place (it was Mel until like a month ago) and it’s all coomer posting. When two streaming powerhouses who are giving their all to their careers and their fans are placed so low it’s pretty clear the site is just a joke.
In Lui’s case antis just decided to misinterpret her ATM joke on purpose because they HAVE to hate on her. Lui is clean and she’s nothing bad on her.

>>57398163
People who dig or at least want to know vtubers real identity know these girls of course it's easy to find. But for La+ her real identity is known by EVERYONE not only people who dig. IRL she is known for being a big attention whore menhera on Rushia scale like i said before. It's not the case for Azuki, subaru, pekora, marine, koyori, miko, towa, nene, etc...

>>57398539
If everyone knew who she is she would be 10 times more hated than she currently is. The fact she still manages to get 8k people to watch her is proof not everyone knows.
And again it’s not about knowing. Nobody gives a fuck about that. Her problem is as you also stated who she is as a person. She lies constantly, doesn’t care about hololive, ditches every single holo event she can, she even got covid after the streamer server she was playing on closed along with other male e-celebs (you can imagine how they “coincidentally” got sick) and infected holomems, gets unfairly pushed by management (I’ll never forget they made her the center of the closing song in holofes when there were at 15 talents who deserved it more), she throw dirt at holos by implying being 27 and not being married is bad, she barely streams and is only motivated to do so when there are popular male e-celebs involved, etc. She’s a shitty human being, that’s all. It has nothing to do with people knowing she’s actually a jap girl who lives in Tokyo.

>>57370606
Bro, have you SEEN streamer culture for women? A girl can tell a story about how she saw a guy 50 football fields away ONCE a decade ago and she'd instantly lose 90% of her subs. It's just as bad if not worse for vtubers because all of you are autistic incels.

>>57394794
She's the worst aspects of Mori and Kroni combined.

Mori because she keeps an active flesh channel on the side where she all but says "that's right, I'm Laplus Darkness from Hololive's HoloX" where her and her boyfriend at the time talk shit about hololive, vtubing, unicorns, incels, fujos and so on.
And Kroni because when the controversy she herself created explodes in her face she hides behind management's skirt and cries for help.

That entire mental health break saga was bullshit, just keeping her hidden till the heat died down a little.

>>57373163
she could accidentally let one rip while I'm going down on her and I would still be smacking the lips

>>57376701
I think it's funny the top 2 are there because they're young women with a social life

>>57371800
Improve myself for a vtuber? No thank you, I am Kenough.

>>57401517
>she keeps an active flesh channel on the side where she all but says "that's right, I'm Laplus Darkness from Hololive's HoloX" where her and her boyfriend at the time talk shit about hololive, vtubing, unicorns, incels, fujos and so on.
So true sister #cut4hex

>>57400867
>gets unfairly pushed by management
Much like in wrestling, when someone important in "the office" decides what a performer's role is gonna be it takes something drastic to make them change plans.
For example this piece of shit at one point was slated to become the next John Cena, until it came to light he liked sexting underaged boys. The company had the intention of ignoring the allegations and keeping on with their plans until the controversy died down a little, but it gained enough steam to turn into a real problem at which point they cut their losses and fired the guy.

Someone in Hololive determined long ago La+ Darkness would be the leader of HoloX and the new bratty loli to challenge Gura's throne. It would take something Rushia-tier to make management de-push her.

>>57370606
>>57370707

I just think their fans just down want to see them or Hololive turn into some Jersey Shore trash or worse a Nijisanji dumpster fire.

>>57404459
> Someone in Hololive determined long ago La+ Darkness would be the leader of HoloX and the new bratty loli to challenge Gura's throne. It would take something Rushia-tier to make management de-push her.
Pretty much that. I’ve seen japs even implying she’s sleeps with upper management as they can’t fathom how such a nut job, disingenuous, bad person can get so much support from the company. She’s also the reason I’m honestly worried about gen 7. I don’t want gen 7 given how cover is trying to compete with vspo by forcing holos to destroy their brand and paving the way for more lapluses to join. Last holox collab was in her channel and next day koyori alone managed to get around the same amount of viewers. That’s just how hated she is.

>>57405327
Yeah I hear you, I've never cared much for the orca or the samurai but Koyori is pretty cool and I love Lui so it pains me when Lapus' stupidity causes them trouble.
It sometimes simply boils down to corporate autism, the guy in the office who backed up the troublemaker keeps backing up the troublemaker because stopping would be seen as showing weakness and losing face.
Here's another example, this asshole has been arrested multiple times for driving drunk but he gets to keep his job and keep appearing in important storylines because he's related to the biggest star in the company, any other guy would have been suspended and depushed after the first time and fired after the second time.

Who knows? Maybe they felt they needed to be "nicer" after Rushia and Aloe.

>>57405327
look at advent. all their debut stuff puts shiori front and center.

>>57371684
B..based?

>>57410336
That's actually something more people should understand. Haachama would do members posts quite often and they'd show up as phone notifications and email. They'd be fairly mundane daily shit, but the perceived connection they made was strong.

>>57372837
I like the "headwings" too, but im not familiar with what they are supposed to actually be. I assumed they are like a laurel wreath

>>57411127
i've seen it in anime and games before. i kind of find it weird, but not enough to care too much

>>57410508
I love how nips treasure their online relationships. They’re not ironic on that shit. Most holos really value what fans think about them and really want fans to feel proud of them.
I genuinely think they are to some degree unironically in love with their fans. Mostly the hags, the cakes and non zoomer menheras.

>>57397455
>Lui
>Massive boost
She's the least subscribed member in the entirety of HoloJP. Even half the ID members have more subs than her.

>>57414343
Fortunately, Idol Culture is a thing.

>>57370606
I'm just bot interested in ever seeing anything related to your BOYZ, homosister. You and Cover just have to hold that fucking L and hold it for a good long time. Hololive brought the success, not holostars. Shoving them into sponsored events won't suddenly make me wanna watch any of them and in fact, it has the opposite effect. I don't even tolerate the JP homos anymore, I'm sick of all of them already.

>>57414525
And she gets more viewers than many people with more subs. Also that was not the point. The point is that she was the runt of her gen (she still is) but she went from like 3k max to around 6-10k depending on the stream.

>>57371493
She's in that group of sora, rbc, aki and mel. You, the "lacks personality" group.

>>57372481
Stop teaching these niggers things. Let them do their lurking reps or get called out for being tourists.

>>57401000
people just don't like sluts

>>57416091
I've been seeing that term used/using it for years and had no idea it was supposed to be a more extreme version

>>57392608
Aia got hate because she pushed pronoun garbage on her official twitter account, and I still hate her for it.

>>57372837
based headwing chad

>>57371493
Hag chasers.

>>57370606
WRONG IMAGE

>>57381562
Please stop, Lui....
Why are you smiling at me like that?

>>57422817

>>57370606
>toxic
Did you ever see the behavior of your side, sister?

>>57370606
I'm surprised that Lui has gone so out of her way over this whole situation, doesn't she have the least amount of gachikois and unicorns in HoloX? Figured she wouldn't need to worry about any blowback like IRyS or Chloe had to worry about.

>>57392421
>throwaway accounts
reminded of me the timecucks. kronii even called them out "seeing new faces" KEK

>>57422817
Kanata is a unicorn herself so she understands the mindset. Don't use her for your dumbass shitposting.

>>57370606
she wants children and cant afford to scare away potential suitors

>>57371800
except irystocrats are unicorn niggers and won't do anything but bitch and whine

>>57370606
>Is Lui's fanbase really that toxic?
no

>>57370606
Unichads, be what japanese envision about you

>>57370606
Did she really? What stream?
This is how it begins btw. First they promise its just gaming. Next it will be collabing.

>>57430546
>Watch her collab with homos and ignores her sharing VC
Not a unicorn

>>57376701
>Matsuri
Holostar cumrag, also THE HAND incident.
>Laplus
Got caught playing with males all the time, also got lazy as fuck like 3 months after debutting.
>Lui
I am pretty sure Lui wasnt hated before but that comment says Holostar so I am guessing its started now after the collab. I am more surprised that Chloe isnt in her place.

>>57376701
>>57437726
>Lui: I'm sorry for collabing with males, but not like it's my first time or anything. You all understand, right?
Should have made a hard stance, either pro homo (like Chloe basically did), say nothing (Botan) or draw a line (Irys)
Lui is too nice for her own good, and nice girls are prime bully victim. (See Pikamee)

>>57438237
Botan did say something when she first collabed with males tho. In fact I am pretty sure it was the only time she sounded angry with her fanbase.

>>57438374
I stand corrected, but this time she was relative quiet.
I didn't check if Towa said anything, either. Lui went on apology spree and basically opening herself to condemnation from the maniacs and antis.

>>57438422
She said they wouldn’t be in chat that was a lie

>>57437726
I think Laplus hate had more to do with how ungrateful she seemed being spoon fed all these major deals while fucking off to her rm and trying to grow her own brand there while lying about being sick as a Holo.
As for Lui, she’s the runt of her gen so she really can’t afford to rock the boat and this isn’t her first controversy (she made that joke about seeing fans as ATMs).

>>57372437
can't think of something better, monkey?

>>57405327
jesas, can you guys spoonfeed me more la+ lore? ive been on a holo hiatus for a year til advent happened. this comes as a real shock to me because i really liked la+ back then, thought she was pretty funny and silly so hearing all this stuff about lies, her RM, not going to holo collabs etc is crazy to me

>>57436900
She said it in the Minecraft stream right as the collab was announced. Then made a member post about it and talked about it in the first few minutes of the John Wick watchalong

>>57370606
>Is Lui's fanbase really that toxic?
You mean normal?
You’d expect them to be more hostile towards her, especially considering she called them “ATMs” not too long ago.

>>57370606
She better do everything in her power to keep her remaining viewers there. Otherwise she will be reduced to a 3view.

>>57370606
>Is Lui's fanbase really that toxic?
fans reflect the streamer

>>57442029
t. threadreader