/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>57306745
>Men are bad
>Women don't interact with Men even off stream
>Mori bad
>Ame bad
>Ina Bad
>Niji bad
>JP bad

>>57306745
>weird pomu fan keeps spamming his rrat that kson sent her fans to harass pomu
>watch every kson stream
>she never mentions her

1 week offcollab with male members in a hotel lmao

>>57306986
Yeah, with me

>>57306921
what lol

>>57306745
Nijisanji is good

Telling Luca about her lacy panties and offers to go panty shopping with him.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQU-hZKaPMQ&t=9870

She wants to take him around maid cafes in Japan
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQU-hZKaPMQ&t=9471
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQU-hZKaPMQ&t=9654

"I'll give you the REAL maid cafe experience"
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQU-hZKaPMQ&t=9717

>>57306810
>Mori bad
She's mediocre as a streamer but her yab makes her look like trash
>Ame bad
If you like eating plain bread with a water she's for you
>Ina bad
If you put lo-fi to sleep she's for you
>niji bad
They have good members but their bad ones and yabs easily outweighs the good ones

Pomu advertised an offcollab with Finana for months, and when the stream started it had a male in it.

>>57306745
I'm pretty sure most of /vt/ don't hate Pomu.
We just pity her, being stuck in Niji.

>>57306745
Remember to always do the opposite of what the catalog says.

Dramafaggot shitposters got clowned on so hard they're making bait threads in the catalog now KEK

>>57307371
Uki is the gayest person on earth. Who cares?

>>57307137
dont forget when pomu spent 1 week in a hotel with some nijis and wilson(unapologetic pomudachi)

>>57306810
Men are not bad, men who Collab with my oshi are bad. I could give zero fucks about the existence of Holostars if they'd just stay the fuck away from the girls.

>>57307431
Don't kill yourself.

>>57306921
Why are you calling kson's fans "dramafaggots and shiposters"?

>>57306745
anyone has the higher reso on that pomu

>>57307137
Pomu, for nearly an entire year, was shipping herself with Luca. He would join all her streams, flirt with her on stream. He even ordered custom additions to his VR model so he could dress up like her with her bow and everything.

Luca watching Pomu sleep, tucking her into bed next to him
>https://youtu.be/neTv6joWb78?t=11190
Luca takes a picture of his computer, Pomu's stream is playing on it.
>https://youtu.be/_jjiUdVMORM?t=678
When he was streamsniping her during their Guess Who collab he said "I always watch your stream".

Luca plays a bizarre video on stream suggesting he likes to "mate" his female coworkers.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxxj4aDMnWk

>>57307495
I should just audition and say I'm le gay and just fuck everyone kek

>>57306745
times you believed the bullshit vt says

>>57307495
>want to watch cute girls frolicking in a hotel
>get woke homo instead

>>57307495
i pretended to be gay in high school and easily became friends with girls that i later fucked.

>>57306745
Pomu is great, but she is stuck on an environment that just sours the experience

>>57307623
>Pomu, for nearly an entire year, was shipping herself with Luca
and you watched every second of it, cuck

>>57306745
Pomu is good till Shu or any males join her stream for whatever reasons

>/vt/ says Pomu is bad
>watch her out of curiosity
>there's some faggot with her
>close the tab

>>57306745
Pomu was always good. Only /vtard/ hate her. She just get the Nijisanji debuff.

>>57307495
There are two types of gay people. the type who are otherwise completely normal humans, these types are fine.
Then there are the types whose entire personality is about how gay they are. these types will constantly behave like actual degenerates all the while shitting on and showing a genuine hatred for straight people.

Uki is the latter type. any stream he is involved in is by default unwatchable because he is a truly detestable human being.
the issue wasn't that the pufferfeesh collab had a gay m***. it was simultaneously that it had anyone else in it and that that person was the single most detestable person in the company to boot.

>>57308021
Reminder that Nina wanted to have an all-girl's terraria server, and the idea was shut down because male members complained. Specifically Uki. He thinks he's "owning the incels" by not allowing them to have any girl's-only streams

this might be the worst board on 4chan, even worse than /pol/.

just making a positive thread about a vtuber instantly attracts all the brainless spammers that have shat up this board for a year, and the jannies do nothing.

>>57307495
You don't get it. It's not about feelings sexually threatened by the guy, it's about wanting to see girls and then there's a guy. Imagine if you entered a strip club and suddenly there's a naked man on stage. It's just not the same.

>>57308266
Ogey, tranny

>>57307148
ame funnier and more creative than your oshi even with corpo burqa

>>57308266
The thread claims that Pomu is "really good" but there's a reason lots of people dropped her anon.

Enjoy her before she's gone, anon.

>>57308266
There's a reason why people are mostly negative towards NijiEN at this point anon. Even if people still like Pomu, it's a fact that the rest of the branch drags her down.

>>57308345
The more schizos who drop her, the better

>>57306745
Go watch her Luca collabs now

>>57306745
I'm glad Hololive rejected her. Imagine if she got in and did love hotel off-collabs with any of the boys.

>>57306745
I HECKIN LOVE WATCHING *POMU* AND ONLY POMU BUT SHE CAN'T STOP HAVING RETARD FAGGOTS IN HER STREAMS!!!! POMU PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP ALLOWING FAGGOTS IN YOUR STREAMS FUCK

>>57306745
Those first few months when it was just her and her genmates were real comfy, unfortunately it all fell apart after that

Why do you people never send superchats or leave comments on her streams telling her to stop bringing males on stream? You could even stir up a twitter thread about it and it'd get the social media interns' attentions.

>>57308124
This is completely made up. Nina once said she floated the idea of doing a terraria server with the nijien girls. Then never mentioned it again at all.

>>57307623
>Pomu, for nearly an entire year, was shipping herself with Luca. He would join all her streams, flirt with her on stream.
The first sentence is completely made up. Pomu has never encouraged shipping her with any male member. In fact I think she outright said it was weird and made her uncomfortable that people would do that when the topic came up. Likewise Luca asked people not to ship him with female members too. The second part is just a massive exaggeration. I can only really think of one time Luca joined Pomu's stream when it wasn't already some collab thing.

>>57308638
The lazusydia era will always be peak comfy for NijiEN. Now it just feels too cluttered regardless if you mind the males or not.

>>57308659
BECAUSE SHE WILL START FUCKING BANNING PEOPLE IF THEY DO THAT

>>57308434
The audience keeps shrinking because she sticks a finger in the eye of her own fans. When her fans complain and leave, you people say "we don't want those fans". So the only fans you want are the ones with no self respect.

>>57308659
Because the people who complain don't watch Pomu. She had a Mortuary Assistant stream with open VC a few weeks ago, and a male joined the VC, but shitposting didn't start until an hour later.

>>57308802
So? Aloupeeps have started pressuring Enna with burner accounts. You "pomudachis" should be able to do it too.

>>57308124
I thought it was specifically both the worst ones Uki and Luca

>>57306745
>Times /vt/ lied to you
almost everything except for the more blatant bits of drama, I guess
although I was around long before the demographic responsible for spawning /vt/ had found out about vtubers so I automatically assume that every post is some kind of bullshit from a retarded person

>>57308836
The main shrinking in NijiEN audience has next to nothing to do with male viewers leaving and far more to do with the women that watched Luxiem leaving. Hovering around 2k is where the top NijiEN girls were before they debuted now most of their fans have left and the girls end up back around the same spot.

>>57308836
I don't think actual fans are the ones coming up with schizo delusions about an offline meetup (with Niji management being present) being a group orgy

>>57306745
She's not one of the top performing females in NijiEN for no reason.

>>57306745
>Only Hololive is worth watching
My biggest regret is blindly believing that for almost two years. There were many interesting vtubers I never got to watch because of my own stupidity and when I finally branched out it was already too late. Gradually I came to realize that most people who claim that Hololive is the best have never watched other vtubers.
>Males are bad
This is another big one, although I can somewhat see the reasoning behind it because it was mainly aimed at Holostars and they're not exactly the most entertaining male vtubers around.

>cuckudachis still coping

>>57307371
How pathetic do you have to be to feel threatened by someone who is gay incarnate?

>>57308902
I think most NijiEN fans just gave up and have written off the branch as a loss. Even if there are still good or harmless talents in the branch, the branch has endured countless yabs and management issues that people are just moving on to indies or going back to Hololive where they don't have to deal with this issue anywhere near as much.

>>57309044
>Hovering around 2k is where the top NijiEN girls were before they debuted
The only reason those ones are the "top girls" is because they were able to build an audience before the males showed up. The new girls are totally fucked.

>>57309191
>he wants to watch gay incarnate

>>57308124
>Reminder that Nina wanted to have an all-girl's terraria server but none of the girls wanted to play terraria
ftfy

>>57307137
>>57307623
I have seen these posts copypasted a million times already
I don't think anyone really cares but you

>>57309418
"If you build it, they will come"

>>57308266
/vt/ is just a shittier /v/ and the jannies are in on the shitposting

>>57306745
>Enna is actually entertaining because she doesn't rely on "parasocials"
I was curious why Enna did so well numberwise despite all the "yabs" and someone fed me that line and I unironically believed it, so I watched her for a bit
I was a fool, Enna may not be the queen bitch the catalog makes her out to be but she's still a deeply unpleasant person and not funny enough to make up for it. I have to assume her main audience is femcels and doomers who relate to her larp

>>57309284
I think that has far more to do with the quality of girls they have hired since than anything else. Most of them don't measure up at all in terms of charisma compared to the likes of Pomu, Elira, Selen. Zaion, who did have comparable charisma, coming after males for example was hovering around 2k too before she yabbed her way into suspensions and that stunted her growth.

>you can't like Pomu because.... She talks to men!!!
Don't even care.

>>57309547
>tried to sneak in zaion

>>57309530
She's pretty funny when she is playing a game, but I could never stand watching her zatsu, she has a tendency to be preachy about big topics she is very undereducated about and moan about everything and anything.

>>57309530
>quoting enna out of nowhere
So this HAS to be a bot right?

>>57309547
>Zaion
Was a 1k shitter, don't even try to compare her to Pomu

A lot of people having been talking about how good Pomu is recently.

>>57309697
Like I said she was hovering around 2k sometimes over sometimes under. It seems clear to me that if you are actually entertaining you can achieve similar audience sizes to what the girls could reach pre-luxiem.

>>57309677
Uh, no? I was responding to the OP prompt
>Times /vt/ lied to you
What, did you want me to talk about Pomu instead? She's cool, no issues with her, though I watch her less these days. Most of the anti shit about her is spammed by a few people who can't stop thinking about cock.

>>57309547
Facts:
-- When Nyanners revealed her boyfriend, her audience completely imploded to 1/3
-- When hololive was integrating males, it caused a significant decline in viewership. All the small corporations received a huge increase in viewers during this time period, from about 80 viewers to 300 on average. The only exception to this rule is Prism and Tsunderia, which had male generations.
-- When hololive rejected males, they received a massive boost in audience and are now experiencing a renaissance.
-- NijiEN has males in every stream, and as a result the male audience is almost nonexistent. The proportion of male viewers between NijiEN and HoloEN is about the same as the number of homosexuals in the general population. HoloEN has 95% of the male audience.
-- Before the males debuted, the girls made statements that they would keep their distance. The only reason they didn't is because the males were popular and were a fantastic leeching opportunity. But since the male's audience has collapsed by 80%, this argument is no longer valid. They are continuing to push males into all their content even though it hurts them. Anyone supporting this is completely retarded

>>57306745
Most of what /vt/ says about pippa both good and bad are wrong.

>>57309467
I appreciate the schizo posts
As a catalogfag, I'm just going to believe his bullshit and not click the links tho

>>57309935
Please provide any example of such "statements". Like, even 1 example will work.

>>57309935
>facts
>literally everything written about NijiEN is an outright lie or a massive overexaggeration
weird

>>57308756
I'm mainly a Hololive (JP) fan but during the Lazusydia Era (and for some time afterwards when the rot hadn't yet destroyed the foundations completely) I though NijiEN was better than HoloEN. Now NijiEN is an absolutely rotten shithole and HoloEN on top of being reasonably stable and reliable has just released a really good new gen.

>>57309039
Never forget, /vt/ is a shitposter's paradise where trolls post rrats and bait to rile up the 20-30% of actual schizos that frequent here.

>>57309547
Rather than looking at the ccv average of an individual girl, look at the box size.
Before the males debuted, all girls streaming at the same time, during NA primetime, would result in a net viewership of 5k.

These days, all the girls streaming at the same time in NA primetime results in about 5.5k. And about 40% of those viewers are female. Meaning the actual male audience is like, 4k, split between all the girls.

So their box size has shrunk a lot since the old days.

>>57309467
>if something gets posted twice then it doesnt count :)

>>57309547
Rather than looking at the ccv average of an individual girl, look at the box size.
Before the males debuted, all girls streaming at the same time, during NA primetime, would result in a net viewership of 8k.

These days, all the girls streaming at the same time in NA primetime results in about 5.5k. And about 40% of those viewers are female. Meaning the actual male audience is like, 4k, split between all the girls.

So their box size has shrunk a lot since the old days.

>>57310113
Huh? People posted timestamps here faggot. You claim they are "exaggeration" but they are literally not.
Btw, Enna just put Kyo in her newest voicepack lmao

>>57310409
none of the stuff in that post can even be shown with timestamps? its all claims about demographics and rate of collabing with males

>>57310113
nijicope

>>57310370
>all girls streaming at the same time
>shows example of 4 girls streaming to compare it to
huh something doesnt add up here

>>57309191
As a cuck, my anger is sourced from the lack of threat. It was better if they didn't half ass it.

>>57309935
>When Nyanners revealed her boyfriend, her audience completely imploded to 1/3
her having a boyfriend isnt what cratered her audience, her content becoming 99% about/with her boyfriend is what did it

>>57310646
you have to be crazy if you think hologirls would drop to niji levels if more of them streamed at the same time

>>57310791
what are you talking about? you said all the nijien girls streaming at the same time would get 8k, then you post an image with only 4 girls streaming? there were 10 girls before luxiem, less than half the number of streams

>>57310163
I share the same sentiment. At the time NijiEN felt like an unfiltered HoloEN with better personalities. It's a shame how short lived it was because once Luxiem came along EN felt more like a frat house than an actual family.

God I hate disingenuous numberfags. You people took something that should have been fun to analyze and study, and turned it into horse races with as much integrity as american elections.

>>57306745
>Times /vt/ didn't lie to you: .

>>57310370
>3 zatsudans and a fortnight collab vs unarchived karaoke

>>57306745
/vt/ never lies about anything. Everything you read here is true including the things that contract each other.

>>57310935
Easy to blame Luxiem but Ethyria was where the tone changed. Nina was shut out by her own gen leading to some really awkward group collabs, Reimu proved to be the ultimate leech clout chaser and both Enna and Millie decided to go all in on clique behavior and eventually the most petty of drama. The male gens just accelerated all these issues that had taken root.

>>57306745
/vt/ never lies about anything. Everything you read here is true including the things that contradict each other.

>>57310163
I enjoyed the Lazusydia era as well, though I have come to dislike HoloEN because of council and how stagnant they become before Advent was released. Advent is okay but the bad taste in my mouth just couldn't go away. I'm currently watching small corpos for the same Lazusydia feel.

>>57307550
This

>>57311207
This reads as quite disconnected from reality when you actually listen to Nina talk about what you are talking about. When she was talking about this 9 months ago she said it was nearly a year ago that issue was happening so it was fine to talk about it now. That whole "they had calls without me thing" was literally just pre-debut. Nina hangs out with them irl even though she is graduated. It's incredible to think you had people trying to paint it like it was some ongoing thing for years or something rather than some initial awkwardness.

>>57309517
Sadly the Jannies won't let the fun threads stay up.

>>57307371
Lol

>>57308124
I believe you

>>57308124
I hated Uki before he became Uki and now I hate him even more

>>57309517
>shittier /v/
>>57308266
>worst board on 4chan, even worse than /pol/.
you invaders can jump off a bridge

>>57310646
Anon, I'm telling you that pretty much every day back then, the girls would stream to 8k people. Adding new people would just split the audience.
These days, they stream to about 5.5k people altogether. And a significant number of them are female. Basically a lot of male audience has left the audience over time.

>>57311891
what are you talking about? nijien doesn't work like that, if just aia is streaming she doesn't suddenly get 10k viewers because everyone goes to her, she will stay on her usual sub 1k, then if Pomu starts streaming she will get her usual 2k whatever, adding or removing streamers vastly effects the overall amount of people watching it doesn't just split them between more or less people.

>>57312156
It kind of does though anon. Some people have a dedicated audience, so when they stream it raises the total. But for the most part the girls are spitting the same audience. This is especially true today because of raids, there's more overlap

>>57307623
>POMU was shipping herself with Luca
>proceeds to link LUCA obsessing over Pomu, without her involvement

woah...

>>57312843
It was a widely known fact that whenever Pomu joined a call, Luca would join a few moments later. She was legitimately bringing him into all her streams and obsessing over him because she wanted that Luxiem money

>>57312843
why are you pomucucks blatantly lying?
see: >>57307137

disgusting whore, it seems most of her male fans are not tocal cucks though and have stopped watching her at least, judging from her viewership, sub growth and superchat decline

>>57307371
>Finana admits she invited him
>Pomu says Finana invited him
>Finana mentioned several times that her and Uki talk everyday in DMs
>Finana who is known for being a clueless retard did something that caused drama
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWMTzsMbFfo&t=760s

get your shitposts right nigger

The way schizos talk about nijisanji makes it seem like Pomu killed their parents and Enna caused the holocaust(the real one)

>>57306745
I watched her finish off FEAR 1.
She's not very good at games and she's not entertaining in the slightest in any other capacity.
I don't feel the need to watch any more than what I already have.

>>57312986
>this post
You're projecting your cuck fantasies

>>57308266
there is a reason there have not been a e-celeb board on this site until /vt/ and turns out it was the right decision

>>57312986
>deleted
KEK what a retard

>>57307711
anon, you're still in middle school

>>57306745
She's bad in a different way

>>57307711
Pretty common thing.

Everything about the orange woman, esp. when they still were new. She just had a model debuff compared to the rest for HoloMyth.

>>57306745
>/vt/ says that vesper and magni won't be as good and won't amount to anything without the blue dorito

>>57307148
Niji would get better if they stopped relying on sex and getting drunk.

>>57306745
ALL OUT WAR

>>57315442
Wait a few months before you start talking shit. Remember when Sayufags were acting like hot shit?