/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>57225011
They’re both married to me, I claimed them first.

Anyone that replies below me is Pakistani

This is basically the standard response for most JP holos, though many actively encourage their fans to see them as a waifu/girlfriend whereas Fuwamoco are agnostic and leaving it entirely up to (You).

Kashmir will be liberated from the Hindu's tyrannical grasp inshallah

>>57225011
Which Tekken characters are these? Anyway the state of India is illegitimate

>>57225011
Holo EN is finally saved after shit like "Improve yourself"

>>57225011
Fake as fuck

>>57225011
NGL I wish my oshi said this instead of indirectly calling me a simp...

>>57225011
SAPLINGS DON'T LOOK

>>57225011
Fucking finally. A Vtuber answer

>>57225011
They are good girls.

>>57225089
i made this post

>>57225011
If other en chuubas dont "get it" no role model is gonna help them

>>57225257
You kinda confirmed it when you stuck with her

>>57225011
>Schrödinger's GFE
nanto power da......

Finally, ENbros. You can throw away all of those chuubas that don't value you.

Now, you have dog daughter wives to watch...

>>57225257
>>57225011
Fauna don't look...

>>57225089
I don't remember writing this post

>>57225350
Very organic sister
Hope you enjoyed Kotoka's post-sex stream today

>>57225251
>>57225292
You guys are waay too spoiled and so used to anything non-confrontational JP that you'd rather get a sugarcoated Idol World fake response than the slightest bit of banter or a (well deserved) reality check from someone who's tired of your bullshit

>>57225292
So you want to be coddled and told you're special. And you wonder why culture's so fucked at this point.

>>57225376
I do

>>57225407
Nice try but those were her words. If we're gonna praise FWMC then we'll hold Fauna accountable for hers

>>57225011
>and if it's something else...thaaat (cute laugh)... it's a bit embarrassing but...do you understand?
:D

>>57225430
This may come as a surprise to an ironic weeb but you don't actually have to put up with things you don't like

>>57225430
Imagine expecting an jp idol response in a jp idol company

Life is good

>>57225430
what a convoluted way to say "you guys want vtubers to act like vtubers" yes i do i agree

>>57225483
People could use being told that they are loved more, instead of being hated by them like Ame or Kronii.

>>57225113
>they are cultivating a fan base that could really turn on them hard
They already did, and it will. They've got the hardcore /jp/ and otaku schizos on their side now, but those people are the most fickle out of all of them and if there's even a single crack it will get ugly
Not that they've done anything wrong. It just comes with the territory of what they do

>>57225011
Fuwamoco is here to save HoloEN

Spot the femanons in this thread.

>>57225011
>Fuwamoco understands they're nothing without their fans, are grateful for them, and know it isn't their place to lecture them about what feelings they are or aren't allowed to have
I can already feel the nijisister, homobeggar, tranny, and roastie seethe

>>57225256
>>57225430
Yup there's that seethe now kek

>>57225256
That's the point, they play into the fantasy. Dog girls aren't real either by the way.
>>57225430
>>57225483
Go and watch the Enna or any of the fleshtubers who like to shit on their chats or give "reality checks" whilst benefiting from the exact same parasocial phenomenon, if you like eating shit from your streamers nobody is stopping you from continuing to do that.

>>57225483
>So you want to be coddled and told you're special
Not everyone can be like you, Mister Internet Tough Guy.
Kind word cost nothing. But it help the desperate one.

>>57225607
>NOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST BE NICE TO YOUR AUDIENCE BECAUSE... YOU JUST CAN'T OKAY?
And here's some more seethe.

>>57225011
God, they're so fake

>>57225089
Was I sleep walking again? When did I write this?

>>57225430
The most "I started watching vtubers in 2022" answer ever.

>"But for us, you're someone very very very important and dear to us. You are someone we look up to, someone that we know will be there for us in hard times (Hopefully...) [...]
>But friends or family or ... I think you know it's up to you. We feel it may be kinda strange for us to decide that without consulting you first. So if you think of us as family or daughters, then we're your daughters. And if we're best buddies, then best buddies and if it's something else...thaaat (cute laugh)... it's a bit embarrassing but...do you understand?

>>57225011
don't listen to any of this anons, they actually married to me

>>57225011

>>57225607
how many times have you said shit like this for nothing to happen?
girls producing the biggests yabs are almost always whores doing it to themselves. the only instance of anything like your ornate fantasies happening in hololive was Mel and that was from a manager, not a fan

>>57225483
yeah culture is fucked because women are too nice to men these days, that's totally what's happening trannychama

>>57225759
>they're so fake
You're fake and project your fakeness on to them

>>57225759
>>57225256
so true sisters! #cut4hex

A reminder they unfollow tempus.

>>57225795
>If you want to be real, then i'll be real

>>57225011
post the clip retard, until you do that, this is just fan fiction as far as i'm concerned

>>57225852
Here you go, threadreader >>57225769

>>57225808
>no u

>>57225089
>>57225316
>>57225376
These posts? All me btw

>>57225852
The OP has a timestamp for you dummy

>>57225483
Excuse me mister masochist, not everyone likes being called a retard/walking paypig by a person with an anime avatar begging for money and thinking they deserve it just because their avatar is cute.

>>57225887
i'm literally listening to their river city girls vod right now, and that is not a clip

>>57225902
Yeah. You're fake as fuck. You got a problem with me pointing that out?

>>57225950
Nobody spoonfeed this retard. Just let him humiliate himself

>>57225092
>>57225163
kek

>>57225955
You are literally having a meltdown over saplings.

>>57225483
Heck yes, I love going into streams and being treated like a money dispenser and talked down to by a dull fleshtuber with an anime avatar who has never had to work a difficulty day in their privileged life.

>>57226025
I haven't mentioned saplings at all, schizochama

>>57225011
Basically, they don’t judge you

>>57225011
I hate Fauna so fucking much now. What a fucking dumb bitch.

>>57225572
>>57225573
>>57225598
>>57225652
>>57225693
>>57225766
I'm just sayin', all the moments where you all seethed due to EN girls acting "un-idol-like", were moments propagated by (You)r own pushing of boundaries, and putting them in situations where they had to put their foot down. Pretty sure that for an entertainer it's not nice to always have that "walking on eggshells" aura, and Cover already put a statement that says every Holomem has their own type of content, so none of them are less "Vtuber-like" than the other.

>>57226003
Someone gave him a timestamp and I gave him the transcription.
He can't be spoonfed. We just tried and he put the food in his ear instead and is wondering why he's still hungry.

>>57226064
So why are you defending them then? Sounds like you're upset that there are vtubers that treat their fans like they should be, sapling.

>>57225915
oh you know what, fair enough, you got me there, i didn't think to look at the time listed on stream, i guess i was the retard all along, still very bau bau based of fuwamoco to accept their role as sister wives

>>57226076
HOW DARE THEY BE NON-JUDGEMENTAL REEEEEEEEEEE

Please don't spoil the comfy thread by bringing up F*una and her S*plings here
Thank you.

>everyone I don't like is a sapling?
This is why I hate incels.

>>57226098
>I'm just sayin', all the moments where you all seethed due to EN girls acting "un-idol-like", were moments propagated by (You)r own pushing of boundaries, and putting them in situations where they had to put their foot down.
And you're wrong. Got any more stupid shit to say?

Contrast this to Fauna:
>I mean, if you want me to be real, I'll be real
>we as fauna and saplings, we cannot be friends, or we should not be friends, theres a lot of reasons
>is I think important for boundaries to be maintained
>I am here to entertain you, and that is all really

Timestamp:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgCHZbylmus&t=12120s

>>57226115
nigga the transcription was in the OP, why did you assume i wanted that when i was literally already looking at it?

>>57225815
Real?

>>57226210
Shut the fuck up sapling. Stop defending the incels.

>>57226098
they only need to walk on eggshells if they are whores, if they can keep their cocklust to a minimum then it really is not that hard

>57226219
Case in point.

>>57225430
ELIRA DONT PICK UP THAT PHONE VOX WILL FUCK YOU AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>57226215
cuckbeat deflection thread
You don't even like hololive so fuck off to vshojo already retard. They'll eat your cum like your money or eles you'll die

>>57226215
I could somehow cope with this before FWMC pitched in but now I'm going to anti this dumb cunt.

>>57226130
Okay Anon, it's time for your meds

>>57226115
>We just tried and he put the food in his ear instead and is wondering why he's still hungry.
kek

>So if you think of us as family or daughters, then we're your daughters.
My daughters
>And if we're best buddies, then best buddies
I guess that too.
>and if it's something else...thaaat (cute laugh)... it's a bit embarrassing but
That’s good for me too.
I’ll take it all.

zhang deflection thread

>>57225649
It's really not that hard

>>57225011
They're my new idols, cheers.

>>57226226
no, they never followed them in the first place.

Meanwhile Fauna...

>>57225011
>and if it's something else...thaaat (cute laugh)... it's a bit embarrassing but...do you understand?
What did they mean by this?

>>57226215
I don't see an issue with either stance, to be honest. I love both Fauna and Fuwamoco. What's the big deal, really?

This is what hololive forgot.

>>57226098
You are not "walking on eggshells" by simply accepting however your fans feel about you as part of the job, it costs them literally nothing to do that.
>moments (You) pushed the boundaries
Fauna quite literally did it to herself by picking out an obvious troll superchat, acknowledging it and using it as a jumping off point for an ill advised and unsolicited "reality check"
Everybody was happy in the fantasy before she decided to broach that subject in the first place, there was no boundary pushing done by anyone but that faggot babski.

>>57225092
>>57225163
>>57225224
best posts ITT

ALLAHU AKHBAR

>>57226423
They are okay with you lusting over them

>>57226312
>t. coping simpling

>>57225011
BAUSED

>>57226422
they followed the official holostars account and then unfollowed it a few days ago

shiori is the only advent who follows any of the individual homos

Go to sleep, faunaschizo, it's getting late.

>>57225089
Sorry bro but I touched their tails and ears first

>>57226098
>Pretty sure that for an entertainer it's not nice to always have that "walking on eggshells" aura
Stuff this fake empathetic horseshit. The entire internet is buck broken to every last facet of your ideology and you want to talk about egg shells? Go back to your twitch thots, you know damn well how many egg shells it takes stepping on to support anything close to idolfaggotry outside of a small culture that you insist has to die.

>>57225163
Fair enough.

>>57226312
Stop deflecting to random shit sapling, at least attempt to make some mental gymnastics for what Fauna said.
here's a little more of her lecture to dig it in deeper:

>I mean, if you want me to be real, I'll be real
>we as fauna and saplings, we cannot be friends, or we should not be friends, there's a lot of reasons
>is I think important for boundaries to be maintained
>I am here to entertain you, and that is all really
>and if you can have a good time here then that makes me happy
>*laughs*
>That's if I'm being really real, which maybe, I don't know do you want me to be real? and this goes for every streamer I think
>I don't know, I used to.. really- because I've always liked youtubers and stuff
>And I used to look at youtubers and be like "OMG if only I could be their friend, like I really wish I could be their friend, it would be so cool"
>But as I've gotten older, I've realized like there's nothing particularly special or that amazing that makes the youtuber different from anyone else
>Just because their youtubers doesn't mean they would be good friends to you
>The people you know in real life, your friends, they can be better friends to you than any youtuber can be
>They're just as cool, they have just as many interesting ideas and cool traits about themselves than the youtubers who you admire do
>I think its easy to look at youtubers and then admire them but I promise if you look at your friends through the same lens you will also see the cool things about your friends that makes your friends special too
>youtubers are just normal people, I mean I'm a kirin, keeper of nature but I'm pretty normal, or maybe I'm not I don't know
>but yea, I think I understand cause I used to always watch youtubers and want to be their friends and I think that's normal to some extent
>but its important to keep in mind that I'm just here to stream and hopefully entertain you and make your day better in some way
>I promise its better that way, its better that way, its better that way
>I think you can make a lot of friends online too doing that
>and definitely online friends can be great too, can help you feel not alone, even if they cant be with you in person
>but not streamers? yea I don't recommend trying to befriend streamers
>I mean, I just don't think that's a good idea, I don't know, I just feel that's not going to end well for anybody, if I'm just being honest
>But that shouldn't make you sad, because the best way to enjoy a streamer is to just watch their streams and have fun, you know

>>57225350
uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

>>57226098
>"walking on eggshells" aura
Okay, I apologise, this isn't a 2022 vtuber watcher post.
It's a clipwatcher only post.

>>57225011
anybody saying they aren't gfe is a delusional retard

>>57226561
KEK
He's really mad today. Guess the pagpag collection didn't yield much today.

>>57226513
I can talk about their backs?? what is this feeling of liberation

>>57226215
"If I were to be real with you..."
Fauna...

>>57226441
people always compare this to the infamous "don't you have female friends" and "improve yourself" lines from kronii and amelia but i think the context changes it entirely. Fauna said what she did because she genuinly cares about her fans and do not want them to be dependant on her, she wants them to live happy and healthy lives where they can find true human connections and not depend on vtubers. Amelia and kronii said that because they wanted to collab with homos and they wanted to shame/embarrass the people who were against that. The context is completely different, and that's why i never cared about what fauna said

Thats nice now please go back to your containment thread

>>57226631
>here's more of...
yeah, just got that ready to go at a moments notice.
Not fooling anyone Jakartaschizo, go to sleep

>>57225483
Yep.
And funny thing, I'll keep watching the holos that do that for me.
No matter how much you seethe about it.

>we wanna live our dream of being a source of happiness and inspiration to people that need it! However they feel most comfortable!
>>omg such fake whores sisters!

Its like you idiots have no empathy or are incapable of seeing past yourselves. Why havent you applied for niji yet?

>>57226789
why does posting your oshi's exact words make you seethe? Are you that ashamed of her stance on this?

>>57226739
They will be wives, or whatever you want.

>>57225483
I get fucked by life and get told disparaging shit already irl so it's nice to just be in a positive environment in my off time.

>>57225256
Who cares? I respect them cause they’re good at their job. I wish all Vtubers had this level of professionalism.

>>57226215
Lol the only time Fauna was ever serious is to call her viewers losers

>>57225256
If only more vtubers were real like Fauna

>>57226631
I'm glad you posted all that, because it sounds even more understandable with full context. Literally nothing wrong with any of this. Are you really trying to spin this statement as a negative or something?

>>57226076
Yeah that's the thing. Too many have contempt or even maternal concern for the audience
Fuck off, we choose to spend our time and money on you, we choose to be slightly delusional for the sake of escapism, just shut up and have fun with us without shattering our illusions

>>57226879
He’s wrong anyway. Allowing the audience to perceive them anyway they want, isn’t fake, it’s just less judgmental.

>>57225430
>You guys are waay too spoiled and so used to anything non-confrontational JP that you'd rather get a sugarcoated Idol World fake response than the slightest bit of banter or a (well deserved) reality check
Anon you aren't wrong but many vtuber fans watch vtubers to escape from harsh reality. I can't blame vtubers for giving an honest answer but can't blame others for giving the standard idol answer.

>twins said something nice and cute to their fans
>schizos and women are SEETHING
classic

CHUMBUDS DONT LOOK

>holo vs holo

>>57226821
You're from Jakarta, I'm not engaging you like a human.
I enjoy watching you samefag 40 times so far this thread though, the seethe is always a treat knowing how mindbroken you are.

>>57225430
you'll get it once you grow up and get a proper job kid

>>57226926
It contrasts with FWMC said, peak example of an EN whore not understanding the point of vtubing
>>57226972
keep coping sapling, i see you have no defense but to screech about le SEA bogeyman

>>57226631
>The people you know in real life, your friends, they can be better friends to you than any youtuber can be
Women often forget the majority of the viewers are male and do not have real friends, just acquaintances at best.

>>57227023

>>57226789
See >>57225092, he’s Pakistani now.

>>57226631
You know, the moment you post her whole reasoning instead of 4 "worst" lines, you kinda lose, because she makes a lot of sense and speaks from personal experience. Add
>you should cherish your friends
>and I hope you can have fun in sapling community
And how she motivates everyone to make friends after that, because she knows from her own life how difficult it might be, but it's worth it in the end.
Man I Love Fauna

>>57226744
holy cope

>>57227080
kek

>>57227045
Real. Women think men are just saying they are lonely cause they don't have gfs, which they think is entitlement, but they don't even know the bottom of it all.

>>57226098
It's all too simple faggot. Just DON'T collab with males, talk about males, talk about your sex life, who you fucked or want to fuck. You're a vtuber, you're not selling your real self you're selling a character. Many chuubas can't figure that shit out. You can be a whore all you want once the stream is over, just be careful not to dox yourself, like showing your irl face. Then you are asked for schizos to stalk you.

>>57225089
I must be a US president because I don't know when did I posted this.

>>57226949
Woman here.
I’m not mad, but I am kinda jealous. I know there will never be a male vtuber at fuwamoco’s level. Not a single one of them can keep up kayfabe or be cute and give fanservice without turning it sexual. It’s a fucking disgrace. Why are men so terrible at vtubing?

>>57227138
that doesn't make her lines about not being your friend any better sapling.

>>57225011
I love my friend-oneesan-imouto-daughterwife-fucktoy dogs

Just wanted everyone to know that they're warranty is expiring on their cars. To solve it you can send me 1000 dollars in Google play money.

>>57225011
やっぱり、JPだ。

>>57227195
Do as we do and stick to the JP side. FWMC are the first ones to bring the JP side to EN.

Everyone in this thread right now is mentally ill, including OP, including me.

>>57227045
Sounds like you're projecting. Most people do have friends. I'm a fucking loser and I still have a nice group of friends that I can talk for hours with and whose company I enjoy. You may have a point with male vtuber fans, though

>>57227195
>Woman here.
Post tits.

>>57226744
Only sane post in this entire thread. However, you have to acknowledge that there’s people here who have completely given up on themselves and they get very upset when

>>57226098
Almost every time an EN has a meltdown it is in response to a troll, not someone from here or one of their own fans. Kronii hated her fans specifically but to be fair, they were not the ones mad at her because you get the fanbase you deserve. People here were mad at her because they saw her fans as more human than Kronii or the fans themselves did.

>>57227157
It’s probably because of all the incels screeching about how modern women are whores and they can’t find good women these days and never about how modern men are terrible friends.

>>57227195
LONDON
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>>57226744
She tried giving viewers a reality check, not realizing that people watch vtubers to escape reality.

>>57225011
>. We feel it may be kinda strange for us to decide that without consulting you first. So if you think of us as family or daughters, then we're your daughters. And if we're best buddies, then best buddies and if it's something else...thaaat (cute laugh)... it's a bit embarrassing but...do you understand?
My knees... i can't... they're so perfect...

>>57227195
Because they have the same issue most en female vtubers have. They care more about the bottom line (making money) than putting effort. Being cute requires effort, being a whore does not.

>>57226210
Dunno how I'm wrong but ok
>>57226270
case in point, a propagator
>>57226489
maybe she already wanted to address that? and saw the perfect opportunity to clarify boundaries, if it wasn't bothering her she wouldn't have done it and you know it
>>57226580
I'm literally not your enemy, or trying to "kill" the overarching culture. I'm merely saying that you guys as fans are taking advantage of said culture, hypermonitoring the girls' every moment, pushing boundaries, and then acting surprised pikachu.jpg when they don't actually turn the other cheek afterwards.
>>57226692
I started with Myth in 2020, but I was never a fan of reactionary antis.

>>57225483
>So you want to be coddled and told you're special.
Yes.

>>57225011
Meanwhile fauna
>WE CANNOT BE FRIENDS
>WE SHOULD NEVER BE FRIENDS

>>57227303
Speaking as a vtuber fan. I have many friends. Too many to give them all their fair share of time with me. But I realized in my early twenties all of us are truly alone in the end and cannot be understood fully by someone else. Basically EVAs message without having watched EVA.
Twinship is the next closest thing I guess. Lucky doggos.

>>57227285
This entire board smells of madness

>>57225011
>friends
uuuuuuuuuuu but we cannot and should not be friends!!!!

>>57226744
>>57227318
major cope, you could say the same things about kronii and ame too if you give them the benefit of the doubt just like you are doing to fauna they are not evil people like you would like to imagine them to be and they always talk about being grateful to their fans in their streams

So is anybody outside the catalog actually angry at Fauna.

>>57227217
Lol, whatever you say, you are the only one ever being mad about that one line. Meanwhile I'm here with Fauna as my oshi and FWMC as second favourite, double-fucking-dipping, baby.

>>57225011
>The perfect reply. They know exactly what they're doing and i'm so happy they both exist and can be a role model to save EN vtubers.
>Incredibly based, i'm kneeling hard.
When will you get a girlfriend?

>>57227460
simplings are easy

>>57226115
>Someone gave him a timestamp and I gave him the transcription.
He can't be spoonfed. We just tried and he put the food in his ear instead and is wondering why he's still hungry.
Holy kek

>>57225011
How can Saplings respond without sounding mad?

Their fake and obvious pandering can only take them so far. Do they know they still need talent to be a success

>>57227460
Couple of my friends that watch vtubers who aren't /here/ thought what she said was dumb but that's about it

>>57227460
I have not watched her since her stupid reality check. She was one of three holos I still watched

>>57225483
Them not being judgmental of their audience, and instead our accepting them no matter how they view them (a friend, daughter, sister, wife, lover, etc), is EXTREMELY cool.

>>57227195
>Woman here.
Tits or gtfo
>Why are men so terrible at vtubing?
We just aren't built for it. Even if a male vtuber tried to be cute and give fanservice without making it sexual their deranged fans would make it hyper-sexual.

>>57227460
I wasn't until now. The contrast got to me I guess.

>>57227257
ヒーローになろ

>>57227521
True.
that's why i praise them and inflate the ego of the fanbase, I want to see how far they fall

>>57227484
That didn't answer my question
>>57227524
But are they having complete meltdowns like faunaschizo and his smart fridges are having?
>>57227526
Read my post again
>>57227561
retard

>>57226215
The problem with Fauna is she treated her fans like real humans when apparently they didn't want that (?) but her fanbase is one of the worst when it comes to their subculture so it's actually crazy that she thought they would act like adults. She's supposed to be their mommy.

Fuwamoco on the other hand are going for the childish angle and can't respond as if their audience are adults which is why they are even awkward about the idea of being seen as sexual. Notice Fauna is seen as a mommy but Fuwamoco frame themselves as daughters for example.

They're not trying to talk to the same audience, Fauna's mistake (if she made one, I don't actually know if it was her fans who were upset or just people here) was overestimating her audience. It's more similar to Ina's rant pissing off people here, her apology to her audience was genuine but people here aren't her audience so what the fuck do they care.

>>57225430
Do you have any fucking clue how parasocial THIS comment actually is?

BAU BAU BAU BAU

>>57225011
>>"But for us, you're someone very very very important and dear to us. You are someone we look up to, someone that we know will be there for us in hard times (Hopefully...)

>>57227387
>Dunno how I'm wrong
Morons rarely do

>>57225089
this post is mine btw, these are my twin wives

>>57226215
>SHOULD NOT be friends
why not? Realistically can’t? Ok makes sense. But SHOULDN'T?? I never understood her here. Of course she could theoretically be friends with a sapling, that line makes no sense.
So what, if she meets someone irl and they become good friends and they later say that they were a sapling she’s going to sever all connection?? Wtf is wrong with her

>>57227387
>perfect opportunity
>piggybacking off a troll supa that sets up a dichotomy of her fans being either friends or just simps
>perfect opportunity
I don't think Fauna deserves hate but that was the furthest thing from the perfect opportunity to clarify anything, that supa should have been ignored and babski should have been banned.
If she really felt the need to gently establish boundaries, it would have been far better placed in a members stream (where her actual fans hang out)

>>57227643
based ruffians filtering out the fake fans
if only the rest of EN learn from you guys

>>57227580
Not being judgmental, doesn’t mean fake. Rather it means not hating your audience.

>>57227561
On the slim chance this is genuine, dont be stupid anon. They both want you to be happy. You're letting shitposters get to you.

>holo vs holo
Shut the fuck up pakistan dogs. How about you fucks focus on fixing your shithole country so the world doesn't have to deal with rogue nukes instead

>>57226699
>GFE
But there's TWO of them. You can't have TWO girlfriends

>>57227706
i love to the fact that the dogs are so inclusive about it

>>57227303
I'm not typical of people who use this site so I do imagine 99% of people here have more friends than me. But on some level it does matter how you define a friend. In my peak years of youth I had plenty of people I could talk to about anything and whose company I enjoyed but they were acquantances (more accurately, they were almost always co-workers). Not a single one would be the sort of person I'd allow into my house for example.

>>57226098
>make autistic losers your target audience
>be surprised when act the part

>>57227460
No it’s literally just some retards who spam it trying to make it some giant yab because reality is HoloEN is boring in terms of drama.

>>57225256
You mean, I haven't actually fathered 2 half-human half-dog girls from the abyss?

>>57227612
>(?)
>(if she made one, I don't actually know if it was her fans who were upset or just people here)
No one in her audience actually cared, and agreed with her take. Even in that stream I doubt you can find one comment talking about the friends part, everyone just thanks for Minecraft stream. Meanwhile you can go to 'that' Amelia's stream and see everyone in shock.

>>57227460
I was never angry but I can't call myself a sapling anymore, I just stopped watching her as much as I did before. I still love her voice though.

>>57227612
>(if she made one, I don't actually know if it was her fans who were upset or just people here)
Yes anon, it is clearly Fauna's actual fans who are upset with her, and not the schizos whose only enjoyment in life is constantly shitting up the catalog and making up scenarios in their head to make them upset because their entire brains have been fried by years of instant gratification via (you)s.

>>57227718
>They both want you to be happy.
Yes, the twins. Fauna doesn't care.

The dogs are too perfect man, this can’t get any better. Just look at this rage ITT of homosisters and trannies tearing their hairs out, it’s wonderful. They can’t comprehend this, and they will continue seething into the void, unanswered

I'm going to rape every single Sapling in this thread.

>Some HoloEN fans are so blackpilled that they're too afraid to unironically like these kind of kayfabe
Don't worry, anon
It's okay to be happy again. This time, your trust won't be broken

>>57225011
I would hope that vtubing is a lot more than that. It would be nice if the industry went back to real vtubing instead of this.

>>57227900
Hi Risu.

>>57227612
I can't speak for faunas fanbase but aren't you a bit unfair?
I may want to be treated as a baka shonen in context of the roleplay, even if I understand the strengths, weaknesses and intentions of the streamer outside of it.
Blurring this line is an immersion break.
Blurring this line to deliver a PSA regarding parasociality doubly so.

>>57227909
based ruffians the guardian of purity

>>57227900
Risu, come to Pakistan.

>>57225256
First time seeing an idol, sis? They sell dreams, not reality

Remember the Sapling Prayer:

Fauna never said that
And if she did, it wasn't that bad
And if it was, it wasn't her fault
And if it was, she didn't mean it like that
And if she did, you deserved it uuuu

>>57227387
>pushing the boundaries
>when Fuwamoco just explicity said the boundary is whatever your imagination desires
Stop conjuring boogiemen and bad scenarios and start BAUing instead. The road to happiness is right before your eyes if you just open them.

>>57227893
i feel bad for saplings and other EN fanbase though, this feels like talking to a subhuman kek

>>57227612
Actually Fuwamoco said they are everything people want: a friend, daughter, sister, wife, lover, etc. That they won’t judge you for how you feel. They are not aiming for one thing.

Also why are saplings mad at us?

You know, after seeing the amount of seethe the twins create on sisters, homobeggaes and antiunicorns do you think some of the other EN girls also seethe about them? I mean there are some girls in HoloEN that are antiunicorn and homo lovers. Can you imagine how Kronii feels watching the twins after having to beg people to buy her merch? Or Ame after she realized she can't afford to order ubereats anymore? Half of HoloEN seems totally checked out, barely streaming, always preaching to their audience, etc. And then these two girls just come out of nowhere and are skyrocketing to the top and taking everyone's audience with them. I don't even know how I would feel if I were in their place.

>>57227460
Judging by the fact that she didn’t lose any significant number of members, subs, views or scs, no one gave a shit. In fact I wouldn’t have been able to tell anything had happened at all, if you niggers weren’t still making threads months after the fact.

>>57226422
he actually means the holostars corporate account, which their account followed as per management default and then unfollowed some time after they took full control

>>57228073
Just to be sure, do you hate her or not?

>>57227961
Well everyone agrees she shouldn't have read the chat to begin with, she stupidly read it in good faith when it was not meant as such. As much as people like to hoot and holler whenever Kiara responds to some troll, it's actually not the mature thing to do and causes drama and immersion-breaking either way. But once she read it, her answer was the only respectful one possible.

>>57228068
they are inferior to us and we shouldn't care about what they think

>>57227909
>THEY'RE FAKE!!
>I WON'T BE FOOLED AGAIN
>THEY CONVICED ME THAT PARASOCIAL IS BAD
>SOMEBODY SAVE ME AIIIEEEEEEE

>>57228067
Jealousy.

>>57227684
It’s so funny when you realize she became friends with her own oshi. So if a female fan of hers joined Hololive at some point, would she just refuse to befriend her?

>>57228068
The twins are almost never raided, but raid others.

>>57228068
>Ame after she realized she can't afford to order ubereats anymore
Nigga, she's recently bought a car as a gift for her aunt.

>>57225256
>Anon's wife dresses up as a sexy nurse
>Tells him she is gonna do him a full body test
>"Fuck off whore you don't even have a medical degree fake ass whore"

>>57227476
I already have two.

>>57225011
Congrats anon on getting so many (You)s for such a simple concept. I see a certain community was especially affected by (You)r words

>>57228120
>they don’t judge me?
Obviously not.

>>57228067
Retarded replies made in bad faith will be responded to as such. Kill yourself.

>chuba tells audience that we can be friends
why does this make sapkeks so angry. It’s not even their oshi.

>>57225812
Is that Hex dude the one with the dildo?

>>57228067
>Also why are saplings mad at us?
>Why is a fanbase that is happy that they aren't friends with her but spam the "MOMMY UUUUU" shit relentlessly?
Many questions we will never get the answer to

>>57228067
>Also why are saplings mad at us?
they hate us cause they anus

>>57227612

>her fanbase is one of the worst when it comes to their subculture
Of course, it is always the fans fault am I right? She is perfect, she never says anything wrong, right? It is all the watchers misinterpreting her gospel.

Are you Amelia by any chance?

Saplings be like
>oh wait, you can actually address this issue without sounding condescending and actually make your fans feel better?
>no that’s impossible, everyone else is just wrong

>>57227612
More like the problem with Fauna is she treated herself like she's a regular fleshtuber and not a vtuber working for the vtuber company Hololive.

>>57226441
Take a note: this happened 2-3 days before the nijisanji 2% slip happened, and when it slipped, it was blown out of proportion to fuck and beyond since it also was the closest thing to a yab they had available at the time period, not even joking, I had a sapling I play factorio with drop me a timestamp the moment fauna ended that stream, and two days go by without anyone giving much of a shit at all, then boom, half the catalog is 2%JISANJI and the other half is WHY DOES MOMMY HATE US UUUU

>>57228133
Nerissa, you're creepy and you should feel bad. What you're doing is unhealthy for all involved.

>>57227195
It's not financially viable. Fuwamoco is raking in dollars. Any male vtuber who refuses to be sexual will barely make minimum wage.

>>57228068
>Fuwamoco morning news
All smiles, everything a hololive fan could want.
>Watson weekly
https://www.youtube.com/live/TCblhJcftAU?si=iFsnoSVkqfouWQLO&t=1334

>>57228279
based ruffians, i'm so glad i found these dogs

>>57227856
>N-No one cared
Nice cope. pic rel some are 2 year+ members

>>57228255
But you're not her fan, so why do their opinions upset you? At least modify your angle to be more in line with reality.

>>57226744
This but you have to understand that there are people here who have completely given up on the and lost all hope. People who have known nothing but hate all of their lives, either from loved ones, from society, or from themselves. To them, a reality check or a suggestion to improve in the middle of their opioid dose is offensive. They are the kind of people who will probably move over to AItubers once they get to the level of current vtubers. No chance to get hurt ever again.

>>57225256
Sry they not your pet loser.

>>57228133
Yeah this is even weirder. Apparently she said she also can’t imagine being friends with Gura? (Probably because she realized how hypocritical she sounded and tried to salvage it by saying something along the lines of "not true friends tho!")
Except she very clearly is a friend of Gura, I mean that’s just friendship. Her point just made no sense, but being the typical woman meant she can never admit to being wrong.

>>57227612
If Fauna wants us to treat each other like real people, that's easy. I don't watch real people who aren't my friends talk at me for hours at a time. Honestly I get what Fauna was trying to do and I'm not mad about it, but IMO that's the entire point of being a vtuber. You are literally putting on a mask and pretending.

It speaks volumes that someone like Lucy Pyre, more of a twitch thot, had a better take on parasociality.

>>57225430
>f banter or a (well deserved) reality check
why the fuck would I watch Vtubes in the first place if I wanted this?

>>57228262
her oshi is NL and she probably watched Ludwig's video on Parasocialism. Not really surprising since she basically rehashed his argument.

>>57225011
Well this is.. GFE..I mean, fwmc is really good but their fans incl me probably should make it sure all over again that GFE shit isnt really jp vtubing. GFE is GFE. Just straight up parasocial shit without a certain form of established entertainment. Also reminder JP doesnt have this type of GFE vtuber now. Kanata has never said shit like this.

Ill still watch them even if their fanbase is filled with GFE obsessed unicorns like I was watching Rushia/Mike but at the same time Ill have to need to keep distance from the GFE hivemind. Personally, I feel that they are a bit too try hard to live up to their EN fans now. Excessive devotion for fans could become a fragile and dangerous A-BOMB.

>>57227458
the difference is once again context, the reason i give fauna the benefit of the doubt and not amelia/kronii is because of the context behind each of their statements. Fauna was concerned and was giving advice, Amelia and Kronii on the other hand were trying to embarrass and ridicule, they did not provide any constructive criticism unlike fauna

>>57228161
>recently
Nigga that was 3 years ago. That was one of the first things she did with her money. It was a couple months ago when she said she stopped ordering out because it was too expensive. Which a youtuber of her level shouldn't really worry about. Also she hasn't changed her background or stream assets for months nor has done any big events like she used to at the start. Hasn't bought a new water tank, has said her terrariums are looking bad, etc.

>>57228321
>their
Opinion discarded. The fact that this teenager stole his parent's credit card to member Fauna is not something she is responsible for.

>>57228114
Keyfabe is the protective shield agencies give their talent exactly for such occasions.
Delivering the immersion break right after giving toddler tier birthday wishes is one heck of a kino fuckup tho.

>>57228279
Those twins are going to ruin HoloEN.

>>57228420
>Ill still watch them even if their fanbase is filled with GFE obsessed unicorns
Nothing wrong with that though….

>>57228420
There are so many defense mechanisms being triggered in this post, you could be your own tower defense game.

BAU BAU BAU BAU

>>57228408
>>57228133
I think her point was about boundaries between fan and entertainer. Once you become an entertainer yourself then that rule doesn't apply and you can be friends with your oshi since you're not on an even playing field

>>57228420
retard, GFE is more than saying "if you think I'm your girlfriend I won't hate you", and they didn't even say that

>>57228068
Anon. All those scenarios in your head aren't real.
Nobody's actually seething at the twins except for Joshua Taipale. They just hate when you use them in console war-like situations to shit on their oshis

>>57228420
>I'm not like all those other crazy fans. I'll keep watching them, even though they're making it very clear what they're about and who they cater to, but don't worry, I'm one of the good ones.
Ogey anon.

>>57228420
Kill yourself immediately tranny

>>57228104
I’m not a sapling. I’m indifferent to her. Just stating fact to answer anon’s question. Numbers didn’t change so my conclusion is that people were not upset.

>>57228279
I can't believe FWMC didn't address their graduation they must hate Hololive Productions!

>>57225011
Fauna absolutely BTFO'd

>>57228471
Superchat reading is a gay immersion break to begin with, only intended for the parasocial types who are also masturbating to their roommate's feet pics on the side.

>>57228415
Yeah, it's like she legit just forgot for a second that she's an anime girl, and not Valkyrae or some shit.

>>57225011
We don't deserve them. We are horrible people.

>>57225483
>So you want to be coddled and told you're special.
Yes, you fucking piece of shit. Men get treated like garbage all the time, there's nothing wrong with wanting to feel loved.

>>57228519
She literally said she CANNOT be friends with a fan of hers. Well she is friends with Gura and her fan. You have nothing to cope with this fact. You are still the fan of an entertainer no matter what your own profession is, it doesn’t influence anything.

So are you her friend or just a simp?

>>57228230
Yup

>>57228651
I'm her husband actually.

>>57228640
>She literally said she CANNOT be friends with a fan of hers
Meanwhile, Fuwamoco will be go as far as you want.

>>57228234
it's just fun pretending to be a schizo, anon.

that's probably why her fanbase is fine with having that chat before they creep too much into actual schizo.

>>57227900
Hey man I'm just browsing, please don't

>>57228280
Simp culture doesn't apply to women. They don't have that instinct to provide that men do.
Mentioning this because a male vtuber who wants this level of success will need to appeal to fags.
"Gay for pay" as they say in the porn world.

>>57228443
>difference is once again context
>MUH CONTEXT
and you totally have failed to see the context behind each chuba's style, typical of a threadreading retard. If kronii started speaking like fauna and started lecturing with a concerned tone it would totally be off-brand and would even cause more drama.

I wonder how FWMC feel about all the shits /vt/ says about her senpais.

>>57225011
my daughtersisterwifemom fuwawa......

>>57228640
You stop being a fan once you become a friend. Iroha is just a fan of Suisei. Miko is a friend, despite enjoying Suisei's music more than Suisei herself.

>>57228790
mococo made this thread

>>57225011
BAU BAU :DDDDDDDDD

>>57228790
unironically proud of their achievments
I mean, they deserved that
you take care of your fanbase, simple as that

>>57228790
>why do people have different opinions here?
You must be new

...Did Fauna ever say that she was friends with Gura though?

>>57225483
>you want to be coddled and told you're special
You dont?
>And you wonder why culture's so fucked at this point
Definitely not for being too nice to each other

>>57225011
Everything they say and do is for the fans. Everyday I find new reasons to love them more and believe. This is the EN vtubing experience I have been looking for years. I realize now that I was born to be a Ruffian.

>>57228545
>Nobody is seething at the twins
Look at this thread. Anyway, what another anon said is true, the twins haven't been raided by anyone and have only collabed within Advent (besides Holotalk). And the only ones interested on them have been HoloJPs. I don't think any other HoloEN have even acknowledge them outside the reveal and giving some short initial impressions. Look at the way Ame reacted to Biboo on and off stream, but the twins? I think she talked about them once and just said some boring corpo comment like
>they seem nice

>>57228877
They skipped the friends phase and Fauna became her mom.

>>57228420
Kanata's "GFE" is in her dedication and understanding; she is simply a different kind of person than the twins and finds the kinds of things that the twins directly announce to be quite embarrassing for her personally (and really, are in contrast her to ideal as a cool idol, even if she herself spergs out over hyper-cute idols).
This is why the ama ama ASMR was done as a punishment instead of repeatedly.

Clearly the patrician choice is to push for both FuwaMoco and Kanata, so you get the widest spectrum of interpretations of greatness.

>>57228939
...that didn't answer my question

>>57228918
It does seem like Holo JP likes them the most.

>>57228536
>>57228549
>>57228551
>>57228485

No you all will understand what I said in the near future. A comment like this can easily make GFE people feel so good they willingly dive into the rabbit hole. You just dont know what GFE audience is like and when a GFE vtuber makes a fuckup what happens. Tldr, this is much like Rushia.

>>57227022
Fucking true. My life is a constant "reality check." I know I'm a slowly eroding ojisan with no relationships, no skills, and no real purpose in life who exists to be a wagecuck . I don't need, nor do I want, a fucking anime girl to give me some reality check. I need anime girls to be anime girls. For the short period of time I watch, I want a fantasy. All I ask is that they play into the character for the short time they stream.
Ironically, FuwaMoco does a better job at being "inspirational" or "motivating" than most other chuubas I've personally watched.

>>57229004
>not hating your audience is bad

>>57225497
>holo vs holo
FWMC wouldn't want their fans to demean their colleagues. Different holos have different approaches, and that is okay.

>>57228918
>Look at this thread
This thread is the least genuine thing imaginable.

>>57228918
I'm waiting until the collab ban is lifted to see if Fuwamoco are worth the hype because there seemed a lot of interest from JP's, but given their overreaction on the karaoke thing, I could see them avoiding real JP collabs even if they'd be great.

>It might be kinda strange of us to just decide that without consulting (YOU) first
HOLY SHIT FAUNA BTFO AHAHAHAHA
GET FUCKED DOUBTERS

>>57225011

>>57229088
The problem is it’s too real, while people pretend everyone actually loves each other. But perhaps pretending, keeps the shit down a bit.

>>57229017
I couldn't give a shit about your life. Stop shitposting, maybe you will feel a little better

>>57225011
>not tardwrangling
I mean yeah it's good but I hope they can keep the ruffians in check when the time comes

>>57228816
No, you can still be a fan of someone even if you are their friend. It is entirely different. You might be friends with an artist but have no interest in their art. It is entirely different

>>57229182
You can't even pretend that you watch streams

>>57229017
thanks ojisan, i care
please keep supporting the twins and be happy

When the collab ban is lifted Fuwamoco is gonna collab with Lui-nee and Lui-nee only!

>>57229229
>not hating their audience? Why not just be judgmental and tell them they are wrong?

>>57228210
man i loved the tatics advanced series, wish they did more.

>>57229202
You're a woman.

>>57229202
Neither could Fauna about yours.

>>57229229
The only one that needs to be tardwrangled is you. And apparently that’s already happening so good job doggos

>OP didnt even post fauna
>saplings immediately swarm this thread
KEK

>>57228918
Of course this is happening. They’re a JP vtuber in the EN branch. Not that that’s a bad thing or anything, but it’s going to make collabs awkward as fuck.

>>57229269
I meant it’s likely real here, not at all real on YouTube. I just think this shit is the norm.

>>57227684
I honestly just think she was having a woman moment. Somebody she perceives as higher in the female hierarchy said something and she convinced herself that she totally thinks the same way as them because someone with higher status said so. She's very obviously just as parasocial as any other good Vtuber and she'd flip her thinking entirely if someone she sees as above her told her to. That's the trade-off when you like a really feminine Vtuber.

we did it

>>57225011
These girls are more professional than every other streamer in HoloEN put together.
Truly idols

>>57229004
This is the utter opposite of Rushia. The only people surprised by Rushia were the people who never look at footprints and just stick their heads in the sand.
Just give up your struggles and let your smile be protected.

>>57229298
Said the gossiping bitch on a vietnamese basket weaving forum

>>57229202
Women will post shit like this and then complain that men never show their feelings

>>57229017
Is it bad to have different kinds of vtubers tho? FWMC went hard into kayfabe (to the point where they start losing me a bit, I still watch their gaming streams for occasional banter, and karaoke because they are godly, bur dropped mornings because they became rather stale and a bit too sugary for my taste), weirdo GFE Shiori, Nerissa who wants to fuck and be fucked by anything in 2km range, and then reality check Fauna. All of them have their audience.

>>57229361
Seething condomlings are just too funny kek

>>57229229
I mean, Joshua got his shit politely kicked in by the Ruffians, Mori and Cover. They already had their first test and it went pretty smoothly.

>>57228141
surge of jealousy

>>57229375
I can see that anon, makes sense

>>57229202
>I couldn't give a shit about your life.
Stop seething and maybe someone will believe you.

Uhm, sisters, are you okay? This is problematic. Vtubers NEED to be psychopaths who only view their fans as ATMs.

>>57228420
People want to feel their opinions are valid and authenticated by some standard. That's why they claim idol culture, despite not being idol fans and knowing nothing about it. Same goes for them supposedly being just like JP in how they talk, despite that anyone with any experience knows they talk more like English anime dubs. They need to be validated that their demands for GFE don't stem from GFE as a term for sex workers, and that there isn't a direct link between them and simps that flock to cam girls or ASMR streamers and say 'ey bby r u single?'. They don't want to admit that they're the same kind of guy so they need to grasp onto fantasies that it's actually because of Japanese otaku culture. At least AV and eroge otaku know what they are.

>>57229438
You’re on 4chan. It’s not enough to like a thing. You have to shit on the things you don’t like.

>>57229313
>>57229426
I'm not the one gossiping about anime women sisters. Calm your tits and stop throwing a pissy bitch at everything

>>57229547
Vtubing is healing

>>57227476
>>57227521
Keep seething

>>57225011
>Be any type of other vtuber
>Show contempt for your fans when this question comes up
>"Improve yourself, I'm not your friend, don't you have real friends, educate yourself"
>FuwaMoco come along
>Effortlessly breeze through this question which has tripped so many others up before them with style and grace just by being nice and giving the fans what they want
>Fans rejoicing and singing praise about them
>Sisters and leftist faggots having a meltdown because FuwaMoco don't hate their fans

Yeah I'm thinking this is yet another absolute victory for the real fans of this media.
I kneel FuwaMoco, I fucking kneel.

>>57229229
They just don't resent their community and fanbase like the rest of EN (except Kiara).

>>57228120
You have been given an oath anon

>>57228640
well the rare exception is when you get into the same company as the one you're a fan of and get to know them more than a fan but i don't think she included that. She could also still just be 'coworker friends' with her

>>57229421
you're a whore then, are you happy now?

>Vtubers who don't view the relationship with their viewers as a purely transactional exchange and actually see them as fans wanting to support and enjoy their favourite creator and offer them flexible avenues of support and relationship?
>FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE 1984

Why do you have to be so miserable?

>>57229260
Appreciating your friend's work and be a fan of that person are completely different things. If you consider yourself a fan, you don't consider them a friend.

>>57229735
I'm a leftist (not American) and I don't see why I would hate this.

>>57229017
But you'll still be an eroding ojisan in five or ten years. You will just be more bitter about how you wasted all those years on ungrateful whores that never stuck around, or went on to better things and stopped the stuff you use to cope now. It will be your own fault and not theirs. It will also be your own fault for being despised as annoying by others when you go full anti.

>>57229815
Fan and friend are not mutually exclusive terms anon.

>Fan: a person who has a strong interest in or admiration for a particular person or thing.

>Friend: a person with whom one has a bond of mutual affection, typically one exclusive of sexual or family relations.

>>57225089
i might be suffering from forgetfulness i dont remember making this post an hour ago

>>57229585
Post tits

>>57229766
I dont know if I can take being hurt again man...

>>57229779
I'm sorry but was that supposed to mean anything? Does overwork stress you to much? Are shitposting and dramafagging the only things you can enjoy nowadays?

>>57229735
dogfuckers can't stop winning

>>57229895
It’s just basically: I won’t judge you

>>57226947
And I respect both kinds of replies, what I don't like is when anons get too comfortable using the idol-like examples to shit on other chuubas from the same company when they don't do it
>>57227022
Lol I already do, and all the incidents you guys keep bringing up are not only very isolated, but also not at all indicative of what watching the chuuba actually is, the text implies that they do those "real" moments all the time when they're only very specific moments of clarification (that also happened LONG ago)
>>57227156
No Holomem has ever talked about her sex life or who she'd want to fuck that isn't someone fictional or a celebrity lol, also the male collab thing is a controversial point but the key detail here is how (You) react to even the prospect of it, I'd rather just silently not watch them but you won't see me calling them whores
>>57227322
They might've gotten one guy'd, but I can't blame them for letting their feelings out ONCE lol
>>57227633
Uh... ...how? I'm not going LEAVE MY OSHI ALONE I'm saying you're all fucking annoying going all "heh, your whore that said this bad thing (2 years ago, once) WISHES she had said this good idol response"
>>57227689
I agree it wasn't the perfect way of doing it, and like the other anon said she might've overestimated her audience, but what's done is done and it never really changed anything, you still see needy saplings everywhere
>>57227828
Somehow I do still feel the sapling effect was a byproduct of the fanbase's delusions instead of Fauna's stream culture
>>57228031
Trust me, I want to BAU in peace, but I can't stay silent when others won't just do the same.
>>57228409
Then don't poke the bear yourself to get her to say these things? And if you didn't, then the chuuba isn't to blame, you know they wanted to get a reaction out of her.

>>57225833
If I wanted her to be real why am I looking at an anime character?

>>57229773
>WE CANNOT AND SHOULD NOT BE FRIENDS, PLEASE UNDERSTAND THIS
>(except in this one case which I’m not gonna mention teehee)
Literally changes nothing even if she did say that, if you know someone in real life you have the possibility to become friends with them. And she could easily happen to meet any one sapling irl. So no, she is wrong on this. You don’t have to join in on her women moment and defend her words to your dying breath, she was just acting too hastily, probably out of good faith, but that doesn’t change what she said.
Yes Fauna, you COULD be friends with a sapling and there’s no reason why that SHOULDN'T ever be done, get that into your head

>>57230010
honey, stay off the internet when you're on your period. you are sounding like a lunatic.

>>57225089
I'm schizophrenic and wrote this, and all of the replies.

>>57229547
I mean, that's what you're asking for, right? A psychopath uses presentations of emotion to manipulate and lie to get what they want. Psychopaths tend to be alluring and will play any role to manipulate people. A non-psychopath can't keep the act up. So what you want is a psychopath that sees you as an ATM because then they won't stop saying the things you want to hear.

>>57229906
stop projecting and improve yourself, anon

>>57227156
>just dont collab with males
oh fuck off, they can collab with whomever they want. the real problem lies in how they handle it. its all about being a professional in what you do even if you're having fun.

>>57229735
I feel like it's easier to answer this question as a chosen QoTD as opposed to a spontaneous superchat where the streamer may be compelled to give a rushed, easily misinterpretable answer on the spot. Choosing to answer this right away though clearly shows they care about their relationship with their fans.

>>57230075
>no you
Really woman?

>>57229229
>if you don't want the ironic twitch audience YOU'RE inviting the tards!
tiresome

>>57225430
>>57225483
explain to me what's so spoiled and special about this?
their entire answer boils down into 'do whatever (the fuck) you want'
I don't get it

>>57229815
Absolutely not, wtf are you talking about. Saplings in full damage control mode rn
Obviously you can be either a fan or a friend or both, it isn’t excluding the other thing

>>57230132
fine, tranny

>>57230032
>she might've overestimated her audience,
Has anybody complained about her rant outside of here though?

>>57230072
Man you are assblasted

>>57230093
>being less judgmental of your audience is being a sociopath
No

>>57229805
Anon these girls are not my daughters, not my wife, not my girlfriend, not my mom. It’s blatant pandering some people want that and that’s cool but being realistic doesn’t make you miserable.

>>57230140
FWMC seems to enjoy the /vt/catalog audience

Seeing saplings getting BTFOed here by a dogfucker is kinda sad

>>57230115
The trick is these dogs are never surprised, always well rested, they are never not on top of their game, they are the pinnacle of vtubing

>>57229735
It's mostly EN that has this attitude, JP does it the same way as FWMC

Sapling, kronies and deadbeats. You've seen the image you know their threads aren't for you.

>>57230204
>these girls are not my daughters, not my wife, not my girlfriend, not my mom.
Yeah, they're not yours, they're mine.

>>57229735
ww can't stop winning

>>57229017
Hey man i don't know you, but just practicing a simple hobby while you watch their streams could help with both the no relationships and no skills stuff. Just saying bc making friends at a local hobby group pulled me out of a similar spot. Wish you the best.

>>57230261
...nobody mentioned deadbeats? wtf

>>57230204
Them saying they allow you to form your own opinion about them, is just not being hateful or looking down on your viewers.

>>57230196
A couple of comments on a her video but no one actually cares except for the people who are far too deep in the hole and think these girls are actually their friends.

>>57230260
The chicken... went cold...

>>57230239
clearly not since basic courtesy to their fans is so controversial to sapkeks that this thread reached autosage

>>57230204
>It’s blatant pandering some people want that and that’s cool but being realistic doesn’t make you miserable.
Not the point. Nobody asked you for the reality check. What purpose does it serve to remind people, "HEY THIS IS FAKE! STOP FEELING THINGS!" Would you interrupt an emotional moment in a movie to remind the audience that the people on screen aren't actually real people they're actors?

>>57230285
Fuck off sapling. Stop deflecting from the fact that you have lost this war. You will never win. You have died and will be erased when the time of judgement comes for all of us and it is then that superior will know who they truly are now and now. Perish forever in irony.

>>57230072
baused and true

>>57230239
>/ourguy/
>SOVL
>Use the 4chan meme image of the dogs chasing fake fans
they love us, because they understand us. i wouldn't be surprised if they are old fags /here/ and on 5chan. they seem like trolls at heart. i can respect that.

>>57230306
No one has to. They fit the mold.

>>57230164
>woman
>whore
>tranny
Kek. Is that best you can do ma'am? You know, i think you should go back to gossiping about anime girls, seem like you're happier that way. Go find another clip and make another thread for fellow sisters

>>57229735
being a ruffian involves being in a constant state of 'wining' and it feels so good bros
our oshis are the best and we have two of them. TWO. other people can't even get one girl like these. how the fuck did we get so lucky to be blessed with fuwamoco?

>>57230261
Dont forget the chumbuds too they need their daily dose of humiliation too

>>57230096
I'm not projecting. I stopped caring about relationships years ago, it doesn't make me bitter or leave me crushed or whatever. I get on with people and some try to get closer for casual stuff but I don't have the time so I change the topic and move on. I enjoy the things that are pleasant but not because I think it has any connection to me, because I know it doesn't. It's also like when you have no expectations you can't be disappointed, and when you neurotically build up all kinds of unreasonable expectations then disappointment is guaranteed. It's simply a choice.

>>57230365
It's really easy to spot all your angry posts, you know?

It's depressing seeing saplings starting to parrot sister talking points. Just walk away.

MOMMY WAS POISONED BY WESTERN MEDIA I CAN STILL BE HER FRIEND

>>57230395
So you admit that you were just falseflagging so you can win the war then? Is that what you mean, because you've won this way my friend. But don't let that trigger you sapling. Because in the end you have lost all. Now be consumed by the abyss that you can created.

>>57230419
They're celebreting their oshi for winning an award by doing absolutely nothing.

>>57230419
Chumbuds don't support an oshi that attacks their audience. Nice try though.

I think a lot of you don’t get the twins are actually hardcore followers of some irl jp idols. So they naturally want to bring the same joy to the ruffians as their idols did for them.

>>57230445
And it's so easy to you when it's obvious that you're deflecting when Fauna has been clearly reducing in numbers for month for her yab. Just admit it and maybe the ruffians will accept you, but if you keep up with this act then you'll be a reject in every vtuber community and then you'll never have any true friends for real.

>>57230392
So when will they make a stream calling the rest of EN a bunch of cocksucking whores? Sure /vt/ would love that

>>57230115
that makes it even worse since she went mask off for that moment just to 'be real'

>>57230501
Dang it
>>57230495
For Free??

>>57225011
Fauna sitting there like..."wait...all I had to say was that!? Goddamnit."

>>57230403
please clean out your pusshole, it seems like the infection has definitely affected your perception of reality. while you waste your time trying to argue with me. I am enjoying a sandwich while i chuckle at how angry you are getting at my stupid responses.

>>57230201
But you don't know if they are or not. Sociopath and psychopath don't mean that they can't help themselves in being mean and judgemental. It's the opposite. You won't know if they despise you, if they need something they will make you feel respected and needed and all that.

It's someone that can and will control themselves and play the part, and say the things, all to get you to do what they want (pay). So yes, if they are psychopaths or sociopaths they will not be judgemental to their audience.

>>57230465
You're a schizo I can't even begin to see where you got that from.

>>57230521
I'm sure as her #1 dedicated anti you studied all the numbers, while everyone else simply enjoyed the streams, maybe even made some friends.

>>57230446
Said in a thread made by sisters to do holo vs holo

>>57230239
>>57230392
The best thing is they don’t mention it. These dogs are playing 5D chess while catering to us without parading to be some kind of /here/tuber or anything as cringy as that.
No, they just do their spiel for the largely normie audience while keeping us anons in their hearts.

>>57230365
>i dont watch vtubers for reality checks, i just want them to be nice to their fans
> *shits on someone trying to be nice*

unironically kill yourself

>>57230349
You don’t directly interact with a movie retardchama and even if you wanted to you wouldn’t have to do that because the credits tell you these are actors/actress. And besides that point actors do sometimes have to because retards harass actors/va because they can’t separate the person they’re acting as and the person behind it.

>>57225430
Yes, and?

>>57230072
when you put it that way, you're right. I'm not defending her woman moment anymore. She fucked up and her choice of wording was poor

>>57230614
You're the one that refuses to accept the truth that faufau is simply superior to faufau. And the fact that you can't means that you'll always be hurt forever.
>>57230653
Nice deflection kronie. I hope you enjoy your doomposting forever.

>>57230462
Yeah go be her 'friend' away from bau bau.

>>57230589
Kek
It’s that easy. Same intentions, but 20+ IQ points difference haha