/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>57144667
for what it's worth, i'm pretty sure this is average for the red homo, his channel has been the textbook definition of "dead on arrival"

>>57144754
Why is he so unsuccesful?

Bettel is better anyway

>HAHA HOMOS GRADUATING NOW AND CAN GET BACK TO CGDCT
>hates watches every male craving cock for hours and post screenshot on /vt/
The fuck is wrong with you faggots? Koyori is in her bikini wet af right now and you're thinking about men

>>57144754
"Femboys" obviously don't appeal to women. NijiEN has one too and he's the absolute runt of the runt wave.

>>57144844
I think if he committed to the shota role a little more he might be more popular amongst gay fans, but he sounds like a generic anime protagonist (to be honest, altare and flayon should have switched models, altare sounds like more of a twink and flayon sounds more like the anime protag that regis was supposed to be)

>>57144919
>Bettel is better anyway
Funny thing: he's probably going to be the next homo to bail.

>>57144667
I figured he was gonna be the most successful of them all

>>57144667
this is small corpo tier wtf

>>57145269
Nah he actually makes money unlike the rest of them

>>57144667
Even without those two the branch was dead as soon als collabs dried up. Nobody cares about or likes Holostars.

>>57144993
Aster is the runt of the litter because his content is shit. Has nothing to do with his model, out of everyone in iLUNA he is the least talented by a country mile.
He can't sing like Ren or Mari
He doesn't have zoomer appeal like Kyo
Can't even draw like Aya
And he's worse for coombaiting than Scarle because he constantly schizos out when his chat lewds him.

His gaming is also shit because he tilts easily and ruins the atmosphere of the stream where chat tries to coddle him to make him feel better. He's good at games but outside of that? his stream is just not entertaining.

>>57144667
I love Machina SEX Flayon

>>57144667
You would expect a pity boost for a few days, but no.

>>57144844
He is extremely annoying. He is theater kid personified. He's only going to appeal to coomers and other theater ilk that don't understand how insufferable they are.

>>57144667
>Bettel leaves for VShonen
>Axel moves to StarsJP
>rest kicked out
Tempus might actually be defunct in a years time.

>>57145474
There was no graduation streams to even bring attention to them.

>>57144844
Tranny

>>57144950
say that again without crying

>>57144667
>lower numbers than holostars JP
Grim

>>57144667
Vesper and Magni must be laughing at this red fag being below their indie personas.

>>57145871
graduation buff anon... wait at least a week before you start bragging about how good their numbers are, you're gonna look really silly when 90 percent of those people stop caring in a few days

>>57145417
I remember hearing that he's the type to rage at his teammates, that true?

My red fag>your red fag

MachinaxFlayon's model should have been given to a new JP Star. Having a Kagami Kira like situation would have been infinitely better than it being wasted on a Western man who can't fit the model with a good voice or personality.

>>57144667
>lower than Uyus rust numbers
lmao he should just kys, Uyu is usually a 80-120 ccv shitter that gets 200+ now on rust
with love from /#/

>>57144667
More like a more peaceful branch without their menhera antics

>>57145346
He's been building up RM activities with NotMagni. You're a fool if you think he will stay.

>>57145619
Axel wouldn't fit in, the guy hasn't even bothered to even befriend StarsJP in the year that hes been in the branch.
The last time he actively bothered to play with them was back in February. He played on the Stars rust server during S1 for a few hours and then basically never touched it again.

>>57144844
Didn't do a feet cam stream to bring in the coomers

>>57144667
The male vtuber hype died a year ago and it doesn't just apply to Hololive. Even Luxiem is struggling to get by which was unthinkable in early/mid 2022 and one of them is graduating. After it's all said and done nobody wants to stick around and hear a faggot speak for 2+ hours. Vtuber fans just want to see cute girls doing cute things.

>>57144950
If /vt/ actually watched this shit I don't think he'd be struggling to keep triple digits in his viewer count.

>>57144667
Isn't it his averages numbers? I've seen a lot of people saying he is insufferable. And on top of that he is even worse than the blue one on the cause shit so that filter even more people.
But also yes pretty sure a lot of toxic "fan" left after the double graduation. And tempiss was never really a solid block in the first place. I hope maganegement keep them away from hololive as much as possible, i still expect ton of drama from them, if they achieve one whole year without shit (and survive it more importantly) they may reconcider the total separation but not before that.

>>57144667
>not leaving the black company

>>57145504
define theater kid

>>57146579
Hey man that viet male that everyone dunked on has good viewership

>>57144667
>>57144919
don't worry he'll leave when he wants

>DUDE shota is all the rage in the West
>Let's hire the absolute gayest guy you can find
>This is a good idea, trust me Yagoo-sama

>>57145504
what's wrong with being a theater kid
t. theater kid

>>57144844
>>57144993
They screwed themselves over by forcing the "gril" shit. Trying to sound like a girl, Aster having a discord figure as a female, doing entire streams as a "female", and both of them forcing others to do a retarded gril voice which was especially annoying. The whole appeal of a femboy is that they're a boy, but if you're trying so hard to be a girl especially when people are still getting to know you, you lose your appeal. At that point I'd just watch a normal female. They both seemed to have stopped finally but it's too late and they've left their impression.

>>57144844
Vanguard is filled with faggots and another clout chaser

>>57146579
I've seen the red guy go under 20 views solo. He has a collab with Rin from idol today. Those guys are unironic cucks though, so theyy might save his career if the collab goes well kek.

>>57144844
disgusting visual
grating voice
keep playing trash
only personality is "I'M CRING YEAH!"
Most obnoxious fan base :"SAY THX TO FLAYTON FOR THE PERMS"

>>57145475
BASED

>>57146642
Viet/thai vtubers basically live in their own bubble iirc

>>57144993
I think the idea is to have a femboy to sweep up the remaining fujos that are into that.

>>57144950
fallacy prime. it takes like 2 seconds to check the noombers on a stream, you don't have to consistently watch it to get a bead on that.

also not everyone concerned about tempus is doing it in bad faith, losing 2 out of their top 3 dudes is devastating and it does beg the question what now. I mean the branch is not dead and disbanded but it definitely is hobbled now. it is possible, that they could just introduce more dudes to in essence roll gacha to see if they get another hit but this action has diminishing returns if they bring in too many too fast before people can start to really-care about existing ones (aka the nijisanji effect). and it can be argued they already brought out the last set way too soon to begin with.

>>57146715
Tbh i would too when i watch social media full of burgerland trannie.

>>57146907
He probably meant Shoto. The guy has been collabing with others still, I believe (mainly Twitch crowd, though)

>>57146885
>disgusting visual
You mean his model? His model is the one good thing about him.

>>57147008
Shoto had a huge incline from attaching himself to the hip with Luxiem and then cut them off at the perfect time.
He's backed by some hollywood agency right now, same one that IM is signed to iirc

Please come back...

>>57147184
Is that guy doing well because he's basically a normal male twitch streamer that uses an avatar?

>>57147154
To each their own i guess, he look more trans/gay/queer than shota in my eyes.

>>57147410
I’m not sure what his content is these days but back when he was rolling with Luxiem at their prime, he was one of those gay coombaiters. At some point he got tired of it and told his fans that he wasn’t going to do it anymore.

>>57147520
I don't think he looks like a shota either, but I also don't think he looks like any of those other terms. His model was designed by a Jap. Japs don't think in those terms. I was hoping for a Kira type situation. But the model was wasted on a Westerner who failed to utilize it properly.

>>57146192
Yeah but he does it in that faggot way where he stops talking and ignores them when they're asking for stuff.
He did it to nina and scarle(who never played apex before) and went

>Oh nyoooo it's just the place I'm living at I just can't talk oh nyooooooooooo!!!

When literally he was screaming his head off playing tetris at that same time.

>>57147560
Just went to see his twitter, when did you see him stop? he'll still posting image of hot guy while commenting gay stuff like "breed" or BL fanart including him .

>>57147410
He is doing well in male VTuber standards. Nowhere near his peak last year, though (dropped from 10-12k average on Twitch to 4-5k nowadays)

>>57146931
Well I'll just say that while i don't hate stars themselves i have quite a bad blood with tempiss but here are the potential solutions :
> disband
Unlickely, even i won't support it, it would be unrecoverable PR dissaster. Also not cover way to do thing so it's unrealistic on top of that.
> Fussion with stars JP
Well, while it's not a bad idea, honnestly, who is able to do JP in tempiss outside axel anyway? probably kept that solution close to hand but definitly not something you would do unless you have no other choices.
> New gen
Once again very unlickely, cover was clearly not prepared for the double graduation under those circumstance (as the delay/cancel of anniversary prove), also they need to first check if the fanbase can support more members before doing so. Also may be somehow not good PR to do it too soon, 3 gen of a single branch so fast will definitly piss of a lot of people and tempiss reput is very fragile.
> Wait and see
Definitly what cover will do, as they can't disband, can't get new blood realisticly. And also they may need to see if the situation stabilise or if more and more memberdecide to graduate who would give the occasion to disband the group without leaving bad PR.
> secret boss
Try to end the whole thing on a "good end" only can happen if there is like 2 more members who want to graduate, but they want to do it properly and the 4 other aren't absolutly adamant in staying. Basicaly speed up some 3D drop a concert graduation like coco and then the project can end on a high note.

>>57146623
>implying /vt watches streams at all

>>57144667
RIP in pieces faggot

>>57146857
Unironic question, what are the odds sony is paying them under the table for this? He’s just such a literal “who?” Chuuba who is almost unanimously hated in the community he belongs to. It’s also a little weird to see her go from collabing with RTgame to this borderline 1view

>>57144950
>open holodex to check my oshis streams
>see the embarrassment of holostars with 100 views
>laugh

>>57148110
Certainly none with the homos in it, the first tempus video i have ever watched was 2 days ago when all the homos got together to give a eulogy for magni and vesper, and even then, i basically watched it to dance on their graves

>>57147008
Nah I am speaking about Dacapo, famous for getting mocked over this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2FNn8d5o4A
Bretty nice ccv

>>57146461
>>57145619
Astel would personally make sure that dog gets fired before he can even change his twitter bio

>>57147199
Unironically the "graduation" that doomed Holostars. Shinove got so much done to improve the build up the JP stars reputation to the point where they got yearly LIVE and sponsor events.

>>57148829
I hope he got a good job in the entertainment industry, he was seriously good. I feel like if he stayed withing vtubing industry then that company would brag about having him as a manager so that is why I think he left for generic entertainment

>stealth terminations/suspension, shit numbers, graduation speedruns, low budget
Why Tempiss feels like NijiEN?

>>57145269
Bettel leaving would be the final nail in the coffin, Axel and the others will probably truck along in irrelevancy but Bettel is the last one left who pulls some numbers.

>>57148389
>obsessively orbiting them and making threads before
>only literal whos leftover
>continues to obsessively orbit them and make threads after
If it weren't mental illness you wouldn't have cared after. You would have a random hobby and be more supportive of the girls with this time you spend on this, be honest with yourself. You're essentially a turbo niji sister, but even those moved on and got less obsessively and unhealthy about retarded shit like this and it's not something they would think about. The homos will stay with you always. "Look at how shitty he's doing!!!" You have bpd. And you're feeling superior to a random person doing better than you at 300ccv.

>>57146833
Flayon is trans

>>57149277
I'm going to laugh at your failure of a branch until all of them graduate and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it. Instead of seething on /vt/ permanently why dont you watch the streams of the faggots you shill so they wont be stuck as low end 3views.

>>57149216
Bros... It doesn't feel good watching the representatives of western men getting btfo by StarsJP, the laughing stock of major corpos...

>>57146931
>taking any time of your day to look a numbers
>then posting here the Unicucks were the real homos all along

>>57144667
stream just starting numbers are never high, nice bait though

>>57150003
>Below 1k ccv is good
Sister, I...

>>57144667
with or without them their numbers would be the same.

They are imeherently boring, they cant leech from anyone, hololive, large indies or other corps. Once people watch them they leave.

But if cover can afford to keep holostars jp, temus should be safe

>>57150051
mid tier corpo numbers are good, not great but not as bad as op is making it out to be,

>>57150051
>u-um, y-yeah, well...
Embarrassing, chud.

>>57149054
They are the same

>>57144844
Not girly enough, fails to resonate with my penis.

>>57150051
Remember that time when all those faggot answered "two more week, right?" when everyone with a brain was saying homofags were never going to stay 4view? good times....

>>57144993
They appeal to women on birth control, women off birth control find manlier men hotter.

>>57144950
We're going to keep laughing at Tempus's shitty numbers and there's nothing you can do but cry about it lmao

>>57148704
Qrd? Does Astel hate tempos or something?

Letting Vesper and Magni walk off unironically killed the Holostars momentum. I can't think of a single reason for a non-fujo to watch Tempus now., it's gone to the dogs.

So are they going to rush out a new gen now to fill the hole? Jap wouldn't allow that, right?

>>57144844
My main problem with Flayon is that I get the feeling that he's a little shit, I don't know why, but I just get bad vibes from him, he feels like a snake, someone who'd backstab you if they'd benefit from it. Other than that I don't have a problem with Flay, his voice and model are fine by me, it's just the way he acts, but even then I cannot really explain why I feel this way when it comes to him.

>>57151803
>killed the Holostars momentum
Delusional homonigger, their momentum died 2 weeks after the debut of tempus 1

>>57151803
momentum died long ago for them. bettel goes next and then holostars are pretty much done.

>>57146833
This. As a sister into shotas, I was attracted to his model and his cringe anime voice was the cherry on top, but then he started to act as an unironic discord faggot and the grill voice filtered me completely. Might as well watch Doppio for cringy shonen experience.

>>57152007
>>57152062
I didn't ask.

>>57150051
Honestly from what I've seen streamers can make a living with a couple hundred viewers, so those are some decent numbers, particularly compared to the entirety of people who stream, most of them are below 10 viewers.

>>57152090
Is there a worse zoomer response than this?

>>57145504

Dawg like over half the holos ens were literal theatre kids

>>57152132

>>57152121
That's for streamers with paypigs who aren't only getting 35% of donos.
The only one with any real paypigs in Tempus is Bettel.

>>57152359
Yeah but you also have to add in the salary they get from the company, overall I think all of the tempus guys are doing well enough financially.

>>57144667
popular fucking demand.

>>57147184
Shoto is a fucking leech but I respect how smart he was about it, so he could get the clout but none of the black company shit

>>57144844
Staunch commitment to play either shitty or obscure games no one cares about.
He has many other things in favor and against him, but that's what really just murdered his channel completely.

>>57151819
They might do a StarsID gen, who knows.

>>57151887
You have dogshit judgment my friend, so bad that you should really reevaluate all your other decisions in life

The male vtuber scene is filled with awful behavior. Flayon is one of the very few people that demonstrably has done nothing but honest faithful work with zero controversy, leeching or drama over his time

>>57153088
Well I don't know what to tell you, it's just the gut feeling I get from him, I can't help it.

>>57144667
>Rust
No one with a brain would watch rust.

>>57145269
>>57149412
I hope you and every fucking worthless faggot like this on this board kills themselves when they find out not only does their whore oshi have a boyfriend, but they're being railed by Tyrone every single night.

>>57146449
Bettel's just not the wannabe shrewd business that Magni tries to be from time to time. Outside financial stability concerns or Cover management doing something really fucked up, I think Bettel just likes to have a good time. Whatever happens happens, but I just don't think Bettel approaches his job the same way Magni. Magni's RM could mind virus him like some female "friend", but for now I will give Magni the benefit of the doubt and say he wouldn't do that at least.

>>57153345
you dont have to project your fetishes anon

We need some black guy holostars to shake things up

>>57153782
Youl aready got Oga, that's enough, not more filthy NIGGERS in my holopro

>>57153782
There was one and he just left

>>57153874
Yeah but Vesper is a lightskin, he doesn't really count.

>>57144667
no idea why he does this but every stream he does he plays some game nobody gives a shit about. there's not necessarily based either

>>57154317
Honestly I don't think Flay gives a shit about actually growing his audience, he just wants to play the niche shit he likes.

>>57146642
it's precisely because he got dunked on on tiktok and twitter that he blew up and has 300k subs now

Flayon acts like an indie streamer even though he's a corporate now. He operates the way you operate when you have like, 30 viewers and rely on engaging each one individually, playing niche stuff that your existing fans like and shit that demands regular stream commitment as a viewer to keep up with.

In terms of abilities he's not really bad, it's a low bar but he's one of the better singers and he doesn't have any problems like downtime or an egregiously bad personality. He legitimately needs to let his brand carry him harder.

>>57154409
he could do that way better on his roommate without dealing with the perms and management nonense, no idea why he'd want to join a corpo just to slack off and be useless

>>57150003
holy shit just nuke them already

>>57144667
he's an annoying tumblr sjw tranny that just wants to play hentai games. he should quit and go join Idol and be with his tranny sibling rin

The only thing funnier than trying to turn a bunch of entitled western women into idols is trying to do the same, but for western men.

If you're talented as a dude, just go be a fleshtuber or fuck it, you don't even need an avatar. The additional benefits you'd get joining a corp (especially anything Cover) doesn't apply to you and instead of essentially getting fans just via affiliation, you get antis.

Bro just go stream on Twitch - There's a never ending congo line of fatherless zoomers who need someone to look up to.

>>57154977
>into idols
This is the thing, this is really the only reason to join Holostars EN, if you have ideas to do with the anime aesthetic and music and you unironically want to sing and dance and perform. You're going to get a 3D model, you know you're going to get studio access and connections to people who know what works and other music professionals to realize your ideas, and of course you'll probably still get something like 30K views for your music by virtue of the subscriber boost, which is still gigantic compared to if you started from zero. That's something you could could only get with great difficulty by being indie. And yet maybe only one or two members (and certainly not Vesper or Magni) ever seemed to even bother about this aspect, and it's honestly a little infuriating.

>>57153345
And I thought homobeggars being the antis was a rrat

>>57153158
He's very parasocial with his fans and is actually a Starmin. From how /vg/ describes him it's understandable you feel that way, but he's just really awkward.

>>57146833
I'd almost play to see porn of Flayon x Aster
The femboy market is lacking

StarsEN 3, if Cover will have the retardation to think about even calling auditions for, will be so dead in the water.

>>57151692
Astel loves Tempus (he actually seemed to really like Vesper) but anons like to make rrats he hates Axel because Astel didn't really interact with him in streamer Rust.

>>57156228
So uproar

Magni was the only one organizing anything in holostars en.

>>57153088
Anon he is an alphabet faggot, you will have hard time being a worst snake than that.

>>57152832
ES is coming before thanks to hakka

>>57158555
StarsES would be too based, they won't allow it.

>>57144844
All the attempts at femboy chuubas in the West have failed. It seems that the Westerners aren't sufficiently gay yet.

>>57158675
I wonder if a man that was dripping with traditional western masculine sex appeal would work or if he'd be even worse off.

>>57158822
Only if he didn't give in to the fujos.

>>57144667
oh nyo

>>57152477
Does anyone Know how much is that salary.

>>57158957
Hey don't forget the 1.8k on twitch too

>>57146579
Women liked male vtubers during lockdown, now for BFE they can just go back to using tinder and the real world.

>>57144667
I'm honestly surprised they still have that many viewers.

>>57144993
This
The only people "femboys" (aka fucking TRANNIES, not sure why weeb faggots are incapable of admitting this) appeal to is actual fartbox tonguing homosexuals like Professor Lando, even then it's only a handful of fetishists because not all fags like low test twinks.

It's fucking RUST. Unless there are other people in the server at the time it manages to be even more boring than Block Game Solo

>>57158822
Personally i think the "unconsciously" cute type of femboy could do it .
Actual male voice, not pandering to fujo, not chasing ojisan, not playing shota, actually think he's cool only to be constantly reminded that he's "cute" instead (and snapping at it)

>>57159400
And yet both Nijisanji and Hololive are filled with these high pitched homos. I wonder what the decision is. Yeah we need more 1view shotas with programmer socks! That'll really pump our profits up!

>>57147820
The Tempus VSinger is probably still happening. Might be a good pick.

He's the only corpo talent kind of fitting into the shota niche, so his fans are still hanging on for that. We need more people to fill the shota niche, but western men can't do the kiddie voice properly.

>>57144844
a latino cannot defeat other latino vtubers like KENDOSMURFT, PARRA, ZILVERK, etc
and because you are in Hololive, you are not allowed to collab with cancer irl ecelebs, hence why is he not popular
also Hololive is not popular in LATAM, indies are far more prominent in here

>>57146461
do any members of tempus do stuff with the jp stars?

>>57159964
I thought Hakka does okay for a homo

>>57160133
you are comparing a guy with an average of 250 ccv against those monsters
Kendo gets 2k
PARRA gets 2k as well
ZilverK also gets 3k and has done irl stuff too
Latinos do not care about the vtuber culture, the moment a vtuber appears, they are just waiting for them to show face
I have seen an insane amount of latino vtubers that eventually show face and their count views spike, when they reeturn to the model, they lower, thus leaving the models behind and just focusing on irl streaming
That's how gross it is in here

>>57159964

Also the one company that has gone for ES so far is literal vantablack company WACTOR, which, yeah.

And now idolES, will see how they do. Issue is with nobody with options want to put up with having to self promote on Facebook, and Facebook IS almost all of social media on ES.

>>57160340
Anime is way more normalized in Latam so the chuuba gimmick doesn't hold much weight outside of larping. In Japan it seems Otaku exist within their own bubble and want to feel separate from normal culture, and VTubers play into that.

>>57144844
Plays otome and other shitty VN """""games"""""

>>57159946
Why not get a woman to voice a shota? They do that in anime already.

/vt/ demands his graduation

>>57160484
They will perform awfully

>>57160673
No it's not
Let's stop pretending that just because everyone knows DBZ, it means anime is normalized. It's not. Latinos just simply don't care about vtubers and will use any kind of method to get themselves clout and fame (see Nimu).

>>57160914
Vtubers playing the opposite gender has been done before and it always performs poorly. Verdict is still out on whether or not it's actually a debuff or if those vtubers just happened to be weak but it's something that companies don't really experiment anymore because the precedence has been established.

>>57160914
Agreed, why not? Why aren't there more women pandering to shotacons?

>>57156070
>He doubted

>>57159020
>>57158957
>Multistreaming
lookin' pretty reportable there...

>>57158957
It ll keep going down with each stream, he'll always be a leech from hololive

>>57160761
Does he even play otome games because those are usually buff games for male indies

>>57160914
Because the western scene will always inject tranny ideology somehow.

>>57161748
reportable for what?

>>57162148
Multistreaming.

>>57162161
That's not a problem though, he's not a twitch partner, nor does have any specific contract with youtube, as far as I'm aware, he's allowed to multistream.

>>57162237
They changed it recently. It doesn't matter if you're partner, affiliate or not, if you're streaming on Twitch you can't stream it anywhere else.

>>57162371
Well report him if you want then I guess, let's see what happens.

>>57146296
God i want to peg Miyabi so fuckin bad

>>57159400
Your country will never release have stable internet access pajeet.

>>57144667
Hope those two take all their trash 'fan' away from holobox.

>>57160673
>>57161111
It's more than people from latam are kind of primitive apes who are behind the times. They are still shocked and awed by inventions from 5 years ago. I'm pretty sure most of them can't even understand the concept of a moving avatar.