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>>57034795
Damn Shiori froze at sub 400k.
New lesson, "do not take breaks short after debut"

>>57034895
Learn to use buzzwords properly, subhuman

gura's stream overlap mission was successful
the upstart kouhai need to know their place

>>57034795
How's Krisis doing, nijisis?

Fail what?

it did exactly what it was supposed to do

>>57034795
Buy an ad.
Where's the "failure"?

>>57034795
Shiori was scared straight from her lecture, mission succeeded boys

Is there anyone who actually believed those Shiori threads were spammed by her fans?
Oh right, the ones who fucking did that

>>57034795
Kek shiorunt. How embarrassing though, she got the most sex tier model and yet failed so hard. I’d argue that the reason most people who subscribed to her were drawn in by her model

>>57035185
not only she had the best model, she also had a 80k sub lead before debuts

how can someone be so incompetent lol

>>57034795
They didn't spam to get anons to like her. They spammed to get anons to hate her.

>>57034795

>>57034795
you can't force people to like someone as unlikeable as her. plus the fact that she bizarrely took a break in the first month, which is terrible for keeping the momentum of gaining those early subscribers

>b-b-but she's le quirky!!
no, she's an annoying basic bitch e-whore who can't into kayfabe

>>57035342
Should've added Krisis to hammer it in

>>57035342
>meanwhile that 3-view niji makes more money than most of hololive

>>57034795

>>57035640
>2%

>>57035772
>>57035495

>>57034895
Holy fuck I swear there's a bot that just generates these responses in every thread.

>>57034795
Not a bad start, honestly. They could reach 800k over the next 5 months, probably.

Holy hell they may not even pass Council

>>57035640
Tell us what 2% of 1.200.000 is anon
Then tell us what 30% of 450.000 is

If you still think that then you truly are lost

>>57035917
Council has been out for well over a year.

>>57034795
>first EN debut in 2 years
>fumbled it so hard that you turned into the runt
It's rare, but it always happens

>>57035917
Fuwamoco will. The others will have the same growth trajectory as Council.

>>57034795
Because she's a male collaber.

>>57035342
Oh no no no!

>>57034899
also "learn the bare minimum about your company", mori and laplus didn't know shit, but they went to do their reps, hell even kronii befriended some JPs and learned a bit about them.

>>57036170
>Because she's a male collaber.

>>57035342
What are clips? Youtube shorts?

>>57034795
be honest with me bros, will she ever make it to 500k?

>>57035342
Where is the lubricant bandage guy?

>>57036290
offstream collabs in her bed and shower

>>57034795
Because nerissa and shiori are peak western whore cunts and no one actually likes them

>>57036489
I like them

>>57036421
Wait, the ones with me?

>>57035640
>meanwhile that 3-view niji makes more money than most of hololive

I think a decent portion of casual fans have fallen off from holoEN. Why would you not have subbed to some Advent members at this point if you're an EN fan?

>>57035640
>>meanwhile that 3-view niji makes more money than most of hololive

>>57036549
You don't watch streams so you don't matter

>>57036489
A lot of Nerissa's subs are probably coming from people who just like her music. My gf listens to her songs but ignores her streams for example. I imagine this isn't terribly uncommon, as she's just Kiara but with the single modicum of talent Kiara lacks.

>>57036650
>mogged by Bae of all fucking people
Grim.

>>57036290
>he doesn't know
OH NO NO NO NO NO
you can't erase her past

>>57034795
Gura explained in her stream 4 month ago:
>The receptivity of the masses is very limited, their intelligence is small, but their power of forgetting is enormous. In consequence of these facts, all effective propaganda must be limited to a very few points and must harp on these in slogans until the last member of the public understands what you want him to understand by your slogan.

>>57036388
eventually but somehow advent lost steam. everyone knows only fwmc will make it.

>>57036771
Gura... Kiara...IRyS... Fauna...

>>57036919
Applies to all of them all the same.

>>57036833
Bijou will be fine because she streams a ton but fuwamoco will definitely be the top dogs

>>57036779
makes sense
this explains her overlapping streams during advent's honeymoon phase

>>57036984
CGDCTsisters...we lost...

>>57036382
Clips are clips, videos clipped by other channels that include said vtubers.
Kinda crazy that most Advent members have more clips than the majority of the niji members displayed here. Iluna debuted when? A little bit over a year ago, while Advent doesn't even have a month.

>>57035640
Anon, the "but look at the superchat" cope only worked for Luxiem.

>>57035640
>>meanwhile that 3-view niji makes more money than most of hololive

>>57034795
>over 130.000 ruffians rejected Shiori despite multiple collabs
What trait of her is so repulsive?

>>57037334
hololive should just give up on all the homos and everyone would be happier

>>57037795
Myth also had gaps in the subs, as did council

>>57037334
Hey anon you forgot to 2% those result, they are inexact.

>>57037795
Many Ruffians like me are hololive JP watchers and FWMC has that JP feel to them. These girls are genuine idols and it shows.

Shiori is just a twitch whore that shows no interest in the company we all love. Has a terrible singing voice (arguably the worst in hololive) despite being in an idol company and has the most annoying goslings

>>57037894
well nijiEN should give up on all whore amd eveyone would be happy esp. the chink

>>57035307
>she also had a 80k sub lead before debuts
It's been fun watching this number grow. At first people were claiming she was 8k ahead, then 20k, then 40k, now it's 80k (the real figure was 4k ahead of the rock loli and behind everyone else). Pretty soon it'll be 800k ahead, more than her total subs.

>>57034795
3/4(5) are just generic American twitch thots.

>>57038058
>this post
BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU

glad to see holofags infighting already 1 month after debut

>>57038058
More than half of holo JP aren't real idols

I will never watch Shiori due to her being a GFE grifter, the worst kind of scum. But her lack of subs probably mostly comes from the fact that she doesn't play video games.
ENsharts are completely obsessed with vidya streams, just look at what garbage numbers zatsudans get for EVERY girl, even the ones who invested into parasocialism or have a reputation for good chit-chat get pretty bad numbers compared to spamming the 57th Minecraft stream.

>>57038491
I’ll show proof of my membership tonight you unitynigger

>>57038674
They’re twice as much idols than your favorite EN whores

>>57036101
FuwaMoco's CCV has been declining the most, which almost always correlates with a slower sub growth.

>>57038966
That’s wrong. The last 4 Fuwamoco steams have been 10k+ streams.
Bijou doing good too.
Nerissa and Shiori aren’t doing as well recently.

>>57039109
Only in your mind.

>>57038966
You can literally look up subs growth and see that you’re wrong. Kys

>>57038966
there were many jp viewers but yeah they probably left

>>57037334
Okay but can we talk about how Vox got the least views yet somehow made more in supas then mysta ike and shu combined? Thats fucking insane His chink whale femcels must be selling their kidneys to afford supas.

>>57034795
shiflopi flopella

>>57039159
All of Advent declined from the start, while Shiori used to be the second highest in live viewers, until more recently now. Nothing I’m saying is actually wrong. I’m not hating, I’m giving account to what happened.

>>57038690
>>57038753
BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU

there doin fine

>>57034795
It's funny the lowest subbed has the highest and most consistent viewership.

>>57038674
And they all behave accordingly and know their place. They'll never talk shit about idol culture nor mock Hololive for focusing on it. They also do idol stuff when required. Noel and Choco are some of the least idol members yet they are excellent workers.

>>57034795
Good, she needs only one subscriber (me)

>>57039219
Is he suggesting that Fuwamoco has the slowest sub growth of all Advent? I’m not sure what he’s actually saying. Anyway, this is the current subscriber growth.

>>57038958
wtf mysta graduation farm cant beat ina LMAO!

>>57039710
Don’t look at the ccv of yesterdays collab compared to the other members. Fucking retard

>>57038058
>is just a twitch whore
>literally invented ENtubing before hololive even existed
ogey

On /vt/, grown men and women argue endlessly about the oft-proven unreliable metrics of live-streamers who use anime girl avatars.

>HOLO vs HOLO

you should compare to the rival company...

>>57040050
Hololive consist of more than just EN you dumb EOP nigger

>>57039867
JOP buff wore out

>>57040172
>buff wore out

>>57040172
But they have the most sub growth in Advent? I think that’s fine right. Also of their last 6 streams, 5 of them are 10k+. How is this bad?

>>57040396
No, anon, they meant 20k.
>they will always move the goalposts

>>57040525
I think the problem is they picked a different oshi than either Fuwamoco or Bijou, and they happen to also be numberfags too.

>>57040342
At least CN has some actual respectable names

>>57040172
they are actually a bit too trying hard to cater to en viewers. they obviously refrain from using japanese on stream and twitter. kiara and bae were more naturally using it and communicating with jp viewers.

>>57036290
>NTR

>>57040670
Nah, that guy isn't a numberfag. ALL numbers will be "bad" to him and always be 5k-10k too short.
>t actual numberfag who recognized him

>>57040766
>they obviously refrain from using japanese on stream and twitter
true. they should keep doing biweekly jap zatsu.

>>57036740
Fauna is lower than I expected for how insane her fans are

>>57040167
She's been in the game before anyone except Gen 0 and debuted around the same time as Gen 1.

>>57039562
>melcoco doing better than even the guys.
This is the power of jp bilingual chubbas. Beter choices exist out there anykara. You just need to find them.

>>57036421
>>57036771
>>57040770
Can you trannies please explain? I don't go to that tranny doxxsite that most nijifags go to.

>>57038690
BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU

>>57039562
ver...
reimu...

>>57041350
She did an "NTR ASMR" where she, uh, threatens to roll for Genshin boys. People love to bait with it.

>>57041417
A combined Fuwamoco into one; interesting way to fit everything.

>>57041555
Actually that's Peroro's true form

>>57041417
>nerissa, fauna, irys, Kiara, mumei
Retard

>>57042152
Seethe

>>57042227
Don't forget to send more condom money!

>>57042345
Don't forget to cut4hex!

>>57042393
Take your meds, redditnigger

>>57040919
and they should tweet in japanese too. i respect kiara for it. she still does it. it actually works.

>>57042442
You first, nyfcuck

>>57035185
This is the worst part. Kronii may not be the best streamer but her model did all the job to get her subs. How Shiori managed to alienate people so much she became the runt, even with that God-tier model, is beyond me. I wonder if it was the model-voice mismatch or if her vacations really did that much damage.

>>57035342
>Ren has the most subs
Explain how this happened.

>>57040050
Yeah, that's why ENtubing outside of hololive are just a bunch of different flavored Veibae and Nyanners

>>57041068
'I'm not your friend' kneecapped her revenue.

>>57034795
>meanwhile no one in council is even close to a million after 2 whole years

>>57038243
Shiori and Bijou were both highest in subscribers at one point while Fuwamoco and Nerissa were last. I remember Fuwamoco specifically being third, then moving to first after debut. I’m not sure it’s wrong to consider that people liked the Shiori model, or that there was a lot of hype for her debut.

>>57042718
Kronii has that deep "cool" voice that a lot of guys really crave but is lacking in vtubers. Shiori has a cutesy anime voice that doesn't set her apart. She could probably be second-highest regardless of content if she did a different voice.

>>57040050
Thank you Shiori for inventing vtubing so other people could pick it up and do it better! Shiori〜n!

>>57035342
Fuwamoco shouldn't count because it's 2 people, so 250k each.
So yeah, advent is shit for being barely above literal whos

>>57035342
The difference in views is even bigger.

>>57046359
this is my favorite cope

>>57037334
>Vox makes less than Mori now
grim

>>57034899
>do not take breaks short after debut
Honestly how retarded can a person be to not know this already?

Just dropping in to say I love Shiori

>>57038677
Ironically enough, I prefer streams that aren't about videogames, so I'm interested in the weird shit she talks about, plus her model is pure sex, but everything else about her filters me so hard. A shame really

>>57038656
A good problem to have, we have so many excellent talents worth fighting over. Stay winning Holokings.

Damn, considering how touted Fuwamoco are or were on this board, that 100k gap doesn't seem like much at all. They won't apparently even surpass half of Susan-nerfed Council. They're cute and have their own niche, but not even the minor boost from the JP hardliners makes them beat not only the majority of JPs, but also ENs.

>>57038656
There has been infighting since debut with advent (and council).

>>57038677
What are the biggest buff games out there for VTubers? Haven't been into gaming for a decade so I don't know much outside of my own taste.

>>57041494
Every day I'm thankful for Coco getting Hololive kicked out of China and preventing the talents from streaming garbage like Arknights and Genshin all day.

>>57048431
As someone who was not a fan of Coco or China that whole ordeal was a win-win for me

>>57034795
You fags told me Bijou would be the run away star.

>>57048626
She is, in my heart

>>57036779
Oh yeah I remember that. Cogent social commentary as expected from goobidiba.

>>57048626
But she's shaping up to be just that? Her CCV and views have even begun to surpass FWMC lately.

>>57048626
She's godawful in every big collab she's in.

>>57034899
and they all tell me that she has experience while she totally behaves like someone who has newbie habits, worst mismatch for a gen in the history of en and the worst fist month in holo debuts

>>57034795
>shiori in last place
oof

>>57041417
>irys
get over it irystokeks, just be happy with your oshi and don't bother others

>>57049131
It's ok hoocuck, there's a new GFE on the block who's actually professional and doesn't use her fee-fees and personal issues as part of the show. You should try it instead of that parasocial "accidental" GFEslop.

>>57049352
>actually falling for Shiori's """""GFE"""""
Oh boy you are in for a very rude awakening.

>>57049352
Why do you assume I use Mooms as GFE? lmao

>>57049672
Two more weeks sister

>>57041417
Tempus are dead, who gives a shit about this anymore

>>57049352
>>57049352
ok anon i'm a hooman cuck she is my oshi not my gfe, but you didn't argue anything I said that wasn't true, your only argue means was to take on Mumei who washes away her sins like a true Crusade

Biboo will catch up to Neri in a couple months.

>numbernigger OP
>numbernigger replies
>dogshit retarded thread
Every time

>>57050561
>works for a company of idols that is interested in the number of fans they can collect so they can make a profit with you
>oh nyo muh numbers
why do you think that fuwamoco will be the first to have membership?

>>57034795
Fail? No, it succeeded.
bvtm won.

>>57050891
Hope you realize numbers have nothing to do with it. Bijou's membership is also coming before Nerissa's.
It's just nerissa and shiori haven't announced it.

>150 posts DORYAAAAA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>57050891
>why do you think that fuwamoco will be the first to have membership?
Because they have their assets ready first?

>>57051037
>Bijou's membership is also coming before Nerissa's
If you follow the number thread, Bijou is actually doing better than Nerissa. You got me thinking though, that the order does seem to follow the ranking a little. Might be coincidence?

>>57051037
ask me how i know that you never signed a contract with a company before
>real contracts will go like this
>if you reach certain goal you have green ligth (most likely was 450+ksubs)
ask me how I know she will be the last to do membership

>>57035772
>87 subscribers
jesus christ

>>57038058
>me me me me
You sound like a cunt

>>57035342
Zion speedran her career damn

>>57046761
>aster with the same amount of views as small corpo vtubers from phase and eien
holy flop

>>57036751
>bae 2 years in holoEN
>scarle 1 year as a female in niji
fake latina is just built for milking

>>57034795
Bijou boyfriend deflection thread
>>57042152
>>57042345
>>57042442
Hi, you forgot Bijou. Gura and Ina are also tainted so really it's just Fuwamoco left. 2/15.

Early Waabyuu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zfr0AdP0K7s
nom ommie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNLC_ROgJsQ

Sounds very similar to Bijou: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNLC_ROgJsQ&t=276s

Archived nommie tweets (redirects are retweets): https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://twitter.com/nomommie*

Reddit account: https://www.reddit.com/user/nomnomnommie/

>>57055368

>>57046761
dude made the biggest mistake trying to play actual games while having a female audience
bitches don't care about cool giant robots

It worked
They were antis, there is a pic of the discord niggers talking about discord raids

Nice 3/5 gen

>>57055473
>bitches don't care about cool giant robots
Why are females so soulless, bros?

>>57048697
She has it where it counts it would seem.

>>57055642
>3/5
It's 2/5 now

Why do people act like CCV is the only measure of success?
Is it because it destroys your fragile rrats?

>>57057102
kek search kronii in the fist 3 months it was the same

btw 131k sub from the first to the last in advent this is the biggest gap in en history surpassing sana gap before gradation

>>57055783
Something went wrong with the fabric of the world when Megas XLR was canceled. That was when chicks stopped digging giant robots.

>>57034899
>new lesson
Don't be a seanigger. It's hilarious how all these seanigs come in and worship this girl just because she is one of them. Sorry, an esl seanig will never be on top

>>57046761
>>57055783
>>57059206
This girl streamed Armored Core 3 on PS2 before playing Armored Core 6. She likes giant robots so much she wants to get gang banged by them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6T071VPp5ZE

>>57062191
I would dare to accept her batchall.

>>57048626
Gura put her foot down, sorry pebbles.

>>57034795
becauase theyre fucking boring like the rest of EN

>>57058598
nigga, the difference between Ina/Kiara and Gura is over 2 million and has been for years, what the fuck are you talking about.

>>57064320
in the first months nigga? jesus

>>57034795
The break hurt a lot, but even the normalfags noticed she didn't really give a shit about the company she joined.
Supporting her would be like Sana/Magni all over again, you know it's just going to end in early graduation

>>57066441
She had explosive growth from the start compared to other girls.

>>57034899
>New lesson, "do not take breaks short after debut"
>New lesson
>New
jesas

>Holo vs Holo
>sigh

>>57046761
KEK

wonder how fuwamoco would have fared during COVID, and with the initial first EN gen hype.