/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>57007078
>Also her coworkers hate her.
Rightfully so. Enna is a cancer that killed the girls side.

>>57007078
"Office work has less sexual harassment"
-Pomu probably

>>57007078
>Also her coworkers hate her.
Understandable. That's kinda what happens when you're in irredeemable bitch to everyone around you 24/7.

>>57007078
>Pomu is thinking about returning to office work
Meanwhile, in the actual linked clip:
>You never know, maybe I'll have to go back to (office) work one day
>But I love streaming, I'd love to do it for as long as I possibly can

>>57007078
>her coworkers hate her
Has she tried not being an insufferable cunt?

>>57008235
What do Holoseas get out of lying about nijisanji 18 hours a day?

>>57007078
Those linked clips are completely reasonable fears all streamers have.

>>57007078
>Also her coworkers hate her.
Only monsters wouldn't

>>57007078

>>57007078
Holostars EN deflection thread?
Holostars EN deflection thread

>>57007078
Pomu onlyfans when?

>>57007078
>Also her coworkers hate her.
Oh wow I wonder why

>>57007078

>>57007078
>Pomu is thinking about returning to office work
It's actually literally over holy shit. I was wondering when the bubble bursting would start to get enough attention that more talents would be thinking about when they need to get off the train.
>>57008235
>OP says pomu is thinking about returning to work
>nijisister proceeds to explain she is indeed thinking about the concept
pretty bad defence there anon.

>>57008889
Hey can you please answer >>57008421

>>57008989
>Pomu is thinking about returning to office work
>You never know, maybe I'll have to go back to (office) work one day
Where is the lie? She is thinking about the possibility of returning to office work one day.

>>57008421
>What do Holoseas get out of lying about nijisanji 18 hours a day?
Dopamine rush from dunking on everyone except pure Hololive (no males) thinking it was based and chad move.
The actual nijifags aren't even here anymore, they're either coping with the state of company or hoping their oshi get out.
The board as of late is ridiculously toxic. Doesn't help that jannies are faggots who purposely let bait and troll thread while erasing anything that resembles civility.

>>57009063
>Where is the lie?
In the meaning. Now please answer my question.

>>57008235
It is true OP misrepresented her saying she is directly thinking about quitting, but basically what it -is- saying is Pomu now sees NijiEN changing or ending to the point that she leaves as a possibility, although she isn't intending on leaving voluntarily until the ship is officially sinking (which I guess would look like getting rolled up in nijiJP, if nijiEN literally no longer exists I guess you can say they officially lost).

>>57007078
For the love of god no, Enna needs to stay contained in Niji EN

>>57007078
It's kind of shocking to me that Pomu is thinking about that at all. Isn't she pretty much the biggest EN in Niji?
She should just go to Holo or Vshojo at this point, at least she will get more than 2% there.

>>57009196
2% is just for merch you absolute retard. no one would be able to survive if 2% was everything

can someone kill ennaschizo already?

>>57009221
Yeah and merch is the biggest income besides maybe sponsorships.

Theres been plenty of examples of the own livers in EN getting samples of their own merch, to the point that petra received her own merch on stream one time.

>nijisanji has so soured her taste for vtubing that she'd rather be A FUCKING WAGIE fetching coffee and sending out HR lady emails than an indie

>>57009255
its not the biggst income when voice packs, SC and everything else has much bigger cuts.

>>57009154
pomu has literally made jokes about returning to being a wagie since she quit her wagie job to be pomu full-time over two years ago. watch streams and don't buy into catalog bait

>listen to Pomu
how can anyone stand this, it's fucking depressing
She sounds like she's about to cry 90% of the time

>>57009306
more like she obviously know this wont last forever and she realizes that one day shes going to need to go back to it.

>>57009338
yeah and she could fix that by switching to pretty much any other company

I remember when meidos used to delete posts with intentionally misleading clips of Mori and Kiara.

>>57009387
sure, nothing changes that members are more than enough able to live off with the other cuts

>>57009121
>of late
/vt/ peaked around july 2021 and has been on a steady downhill descent where you feel exhausted merely reading the board because there's always more new drama every week and has been like this for a while.

>>57009429
Wouldn't have happened if /#/ was deleted immediately as it appeared and fun threads like /become/ and /ringo/ were allowed to stay up.

>>57009121
coping? anon nijifags dont watch the same vtubers or even the same branch, stop thinking en represents everything. jp couldnt be more safe and so do my oshis who are in there for 5 and 4 years

Nijifans don't really care about the talents.

>>57009127
There is no lie. She is thinking about the possibility of returning to office work one day but that she would like to continue streaming as long as she can.

>>57009429
wow what a coincidence that /vt/ was nice before nijiEN got all fucking gay and shitty and it was just lazusydia. at the time, hololive fans didn't take nijiEN as much of a threat, just a little cute side distraction. things started to change when they quickly outgrew holoEN's ranks but started just greenlighting whatever noname slop applied for chuubas with ethyria and then luxiem followed shortly after.

the original nijiEN fans were relatively pretty chill actually too. people started having doubts about the branch with ethyria but luxiem is where people suddenly got the confidence that it was either destined to overtake holoEN or otherwise was a serious competitor. how all those people didn't notice the actually-bizarre levels of chinese viewers in the dudes' chats and realize it was a weird fucking fluke powering this sudden ego trip, it beats me. it was obvious the entire fucking time.

>>57009340
This isnt a joke anymore is a ahrsh reality.
i mean that health plan could be ussefule anywhen

>>57007078
I didn't watch, but based.
Wagie rage Pomu was sex.

>>57007078
post yfw NijiEN gets the KR/ID treatment by the end of the year

>>57007078
Everytime it's these 2 menhera women

>>57007078
why everyone defended pomu but not enna?

>>57009589
>tfw i got called a schizo anti for saying the girls are acting different now that the guys are about to drop
>most of the people who defended them probably have silently left them to rot by now
I maintain yesmen ruined vtubing. The best thing that ever happened to hololive was enough people actually pushing back when they made shit decisions.

>>57009690
Nobody gives a fuck about Enna

>>57009363
It used to make my dick hard but now that I'm pretty sure she really is that depressed it makes my dick even harder. I can't watch for more than a few minutes without getting the urge to fap.

>>57009617
>harsh reality
rosemi is about the cutoff point for streamers who will outlast niji with no issues. pomu leaving would be like nina leaving, everyone is just waiting to follow her when she comes back as someone else.

>>57008421
As a holoCHAD i wish they stay there as long as possible, they will become the siren for all indies to be wary on kurosanji

Nijisanji is fumbling

https://streamable.com/3ljxtb

>>57009690
Somehow Pomu still has cuck fans

>>57009306
Listen to her quote:
>But I love streaming, I'd love to do it for as long as I possibly can
She isn't mentioning Niji there. I'm sure she'd rather go indie before going back to OL life.

>>57007078
You can't be a chuuba forever, what do you expect?

>>57009952
>going down down down
lmao is she planning to jump off the sinking ship?

>>57009952
b-b-b-b-b-but luca said nothing is wrong and morale is only down because of the haters!

>>57010081
anon if you have a brain shes referring to nijien and how they have a bad year, thats what she means by that

>>57009941
No amount of graduations/terminations will change a drones mind. They oshi Riku and his stocks and do not give a fuck about any of the vtubers

>>57009690
Enna isn't an actual demon or whatever but she's abbrassive and has a personality disorder. It hasn't done great things for niji en as a whole and it's caused the entire branch to suffer a lot of really shit pr problems. Same for anyone that needs to project an unprofessional opinion to "own the haters" or whatever. Niji en has a lot of it. That being said, this is vtubing. If a girl doesn't want to secretly kill every other woman they interact with and likes their viewers they're part of the 1% good enough for hololive or making it and living comfortably as an indie themselves. Pomu is one of these and doesn't deserve nijis cuts to be taken out of her paycheck or to be trapped there.

>>57010194
enna said that a month ago about the bad year en had and luca never mentioned morale.

>>57010221
stop putting shangai and taipei in there you troglodyte

>>57009712
People like Koefficient and his lackeys aren't yesmen, they just have an agenda that involves leeching from popular vtubers, so they were speaking out in favor of what NijiEN was doing in the hopes of affecting Hololive.

>>57010288
>instantly proves the point

>>57009515
this. SEA ip should be banned as well

>>57010388
only if you cant read. those branches were different companies not even under anycolor co-ownership like virtuareal with bili2, they were license companies that died after losing the license

>>57007078
It's over

>>57007078
>Niji doesn't get merch samples.
Petra said she recieves her samples at her mom's, because she lives in japan and forgot to change her address, so Petra lied or Enna is full of shit, and I'll take take the latter.

>>57010469
But they are the only people dumb enough to click on ads

>>57010980
enna is a full blown liar

>>57008293
Shed melt like the wicked witch of the west

>>57007078
You've completely twisted that Pomu clip "thinking about returning to office work" making it sound like its something she is considering doing because she isn't making enough money or something when she is basically just saying what everyone knows streaming is a volatile career and popularity usually doesn't last forever for most people.

Not going to bother watching the rest but NijiEN members do get sent all their own merch for free.

>>57010980
Petra is a known spy in the company and has leaked shit multiple times. You trust someone like that?

>>57011538
https://twitter.com/Selen_Tatsuki/status/1575012222132424704
If you actually watched NijiEN you would know that plenty of members talk and post about being sent their merch. Staff send it to the members in packages with their fanmail usually.

>>57011623
More examples.
https://twitter.com/ReimuEndou/status/1641815443957530624
https://twitter.com/MariaMari0nette/status/1695076030086787391
Here is enna saying she recieved her merch too.
https://twitter.com/EnnaAlouette/status/1609047996020187136

>>57008744
>he doesn't already have all the nudes, except the cursed ones that can make you a criminal.

>>57011730
enna just straight up lying in the OP clip

>>57011895
That motherfucker actually has the nerve to call Petra a "spy" when Enna does shit like this

>>57010194
Luca is unironically management's favorite, he will always have plenty of opportunities to make money and management will give him whatever he asks for. And if someone tries to come out with some accusations against him, he will just use his power to destroy their lives.

>>57011510
Pomu is saying the same shit Selen said around when she debuted, the whole "lets be real while i would like to be here forever it probably won't be more than 5 years that most streamers stay popular" spiel she gave.

>>57009952
This clip is so much more relevant than the ones in OP, actual confirmation of niji going down down down

>>57012303
yes the girl whose whole shtick is playing at being so depressed and acting like a doomer about literally everything is acting like a doomer what a surprise

It amazes me people are able to listen to Enna's grating voice.

>>57009690
>Hello my name is enna and my entire personality is behaving like a cunt and doomer all the time while dabbing on my haterz
Gee can't imagine why people prefer pomu.

>>57007078
The projection on this deluded retarded OP is staggering. I hate clip watchers who purposely mislead people into believing their bullshit. I can't wait for the day when all liars get burned to death.

>>57012943
I'm sure others feel the same way being around you. I wonder if they know what you do on sites like this talking shit behind people's back.

>>57009952
>niji has been going through a lot this year
>down down down and up once
Lol Luca is management's damage control device

>>57007078
ETA for the 'merging'?

>>57013093
So true sister

yeah, mine.

>>57007118
>>57008219
>>57008293
>>57008467
>>57008782
Enna can't possibly be this blind. Surely she must realize what she's doing at least to some degree. Why is she like this?

>>57007078
This is pretty obviously a misrepresentation by OP, but there is something to take away from it. Pomu is not long-term financially stable and doesn't expect to be any time soon.

>>57008421
Because Nijisanji is easier to piss on than a bench in the middle of Paris. Hololive literally just purged two useless fucks from the other project and is having a double concert, while Nijisanji is graduating one of the only members which kept their English branch alive. The only real competition Hololive had in the EN market (which is Luxiem) is falling to the levels of holoID, couldn't be a better time to create some bait.

>>57013429
Unironically a sociopath.

>>57013474
I mean if you do some back of the envelope calculations she should be making something like 200k+ a year before tax I would think. Which while nice, isn't going to earn you a life in retirement should the job suddenly disappear. Especially not when you drop thousands on useless shit like pachinko machines and upgrades to flying first class to Japan multiple times a year.

>>57007078
Why is everyone pretending to be surprised? Vtubing was never a job with a long lifespan.
Unless you're from a third-world country where dollar value is extremely high, 3 to 5 years is the normal expiration date before they decide to move on.

>>57013621
Sure, but I'm just talking about stability. 200k+ a year is plenty to retire on within a few years if you know how to live frugally and how to invest safely. It wouldn't be a glamorous retirement, but you could live a life above the poverty line without ever having to work another day in your life, and you'd still have the option to work for anything more than that whenever you want.

>>57007078
?

>>57014105
>he unironically blocked some anime girls on xitter
Low testosterone fag lmao

>>57009952
This should have been the OP.

>>57012943
I feel forced to watch these clips at 1.5 speed, otherwise I'd go insane.

>>57014105
Does Enna have any personality other than muh depression? Why hasn't she roped yet?

>>57007078
>kills the NijiEN whores with CGDCT
FIRE FIRE LIGHT THE FIRE

>>57016355
She can be an unbearable cunt too

>>57008500
why would it be?
holocucks are happy they are gone

>>57007078
>her coworkers hate her
Gee I wonder who's to blame for that you insufferable cunt. Completely deserved.

>>57016547
>with CGDCT
But they reject the whole idea of CGDCT and segregation of the sexes They still think its evil

>>57017143
It's an obvious joke even within the context of the clip that fits right in with enna's im so depressed and everything is awful personality. Her coworkers just flew from all over the American continent to hang out with her in Canada. Including graduated ones like Nina.

>>57016547
>advent is already planning collabs with the scrotes

>>57007078
why are holobronies so obsessed with making propaganda?

>>57018993

>>57018993
why are nijiniggers obsessed with coping?

>>57016547
NIJIEN still deny the power

>>57007229
Kek

>>57008421
>18 hours a day
Newfag

>>57017695
>source:

>>57007118
this, as a holobrony I would actually like to see the no-Enna-clique timeline. eh, maybe it's bullshit and there could be no such thing under a CEO that allowed cliques in the first place. just saying "they hate me" is a massive oversimplification of what she actually did lol, more like they're all aware you're a manipulator and you're in the Pit of Zero Trust.

purp dragon and pink dork cute and deserved a true ceo

>>57019117
>>57019178
>lie and make shit up
>nn-no you guys suck!
It is so fucking weird interacting with ESL teenagers from the philippines. why do you need to go on english speakin websites?

>>57020194
Don't you have to pay for her onlyfans to access her streams? Chop chop zaionkek, it ain't gonna pay for itself.

Remember, every time you feel sorry for nijifags
ALL OUT WAR

>>57007078
Black company…

>>57017695
source: my ass

>>57009515
But /#/ is a fun thread though? Weird how your monkey brain works.

>>57020157
there is no such thing as an "enna clique" its a bullshit narrative pushed by a schizo from the nijien thread who picks apart absolutely everything she does and then spews his shit all over the board, then you faggots that don't even watch nijien eat it all up and regurtiate it because it fits what you want to hear, some negative story about the company. Much like how in this very thread we have people looking at clips taken out of context and interpreting them in ways they were never meant, twisting peoples words and taking obvious jokes as if they were literal statements. Watch the part of the clip where she claims she is hated she laughs when she says it. Holy shit, Nina the woman that left the company went out of her way to meet up with her in real life and spend time with her just a week or two ago. It's all a bunch of complete fucking nonsense of people with no idea what they are talking about being fed shit with no context by someone looking to paint things in a certain way and them falling for it willingly because it fits what they want to hear.

>>57023928
>Watch the part of the clip where she claims she is hated she laughs when she says it.
HOLY KEK COPIUM

>>57024369
If you actually watched NijiEN at all you would know this is a typical manifestation of her entire persona. She puts on the air of a depressed, miserable person, who complains about everything, and hates everything for comedic effect. Think of observational comedy where they look at some situation in the real world and then are like OH BROTHER THAT THING IS ANNOYING. Enna is that in vtuber form but with about a quarter of the wit and intelligence.

I have no pity for nijifags.

>>57007078
oot but did Pomu build that herself? That looks pretty impressive ngl

>>57025472
Yeah, she's been building it for like 2 maybe 3 months already, and still has quite a bit left.

>>57025018
>>57023928
It's funny when you think about it the narratives don't even make sense when you think about them together for even a second, enna is the head of some powerful clique of nijien members that manipulates management and does what they want with impunity yet she we are supposed to take seriously that she thinks she is hated (which she says while laughing) if anything someone in her positions as the head of this powerful clique should have everyone kissing up to them and wanting to be her friend. It's all complete fucking nonsense regurgitated by people that don't watch any of what they are talking about and are just looking for anything negative about it they can latch onto to justify and validate themselves feeling superior in their choice of which anime girl they choose to watch. Which what do you know the enna happens to have a complete schizo that has hate watched her streams for years now to take everything she says out of context and feed it to people who will unquestioningly swallow it with the spin he puts on it which to any reasonable observer doesn't exist. It's odd how someone that watches nijien can look at that and see its just enna being enna and making a joke while people who don't insist she is actually being serious and is hated. Almost like having the full context instead of just being lead by your nose by someone that hates the person in question changes your perspective.

>>57011538
Kinda, yeah. She doesn't care enough to lie

>>57016547
DANCE INTO THE FLAME OF LIFE

>made this exact post 3 times already
Don't care what you think holonigger, I love Pomu

>>57007078
If she didnt want to return to office work, why did she apply to the black company

>>57018993
They're mentally ill subhumans with nothing else going on in their lives.
Shifting blame to nijisanji is the only way they can cope with being absolutely at the bottom of the barrel of the human genome.

>>57007078
I imagine theres less weird SEA faggots who keep trying to fuck you irl at her office

>>57029999
WITNESSED

>>57013625
It could have been better for the long term, but the issue is that they’re part of Nijisanji EN. Taking into account the atrocious 2% merch cuts, constantly flying around to do off collabs that no longer have any appeal, hanging out with boys IRL which is a death sentence for gachikoi to hear, and having to fund their own songs/projects on their own dime, it’s no wonder why the money is drying up.

>>57029999
Look up the word "Projecting" as well

>>57030284
Yeah they tend to do that too, just twist what someone is saying and try to force their own meaning into their words.

>>57007229
then maybe she should stop streaming with an open vc

>>57030284
Projecting is the only thing numbermonkeys know
>riku is their oshi!
Nonstop Yagoo/Dimitri cocksucking
>nijifans love the company not the talents!
Endless holobegging, refusal to wander out of the holo box
>good talents move to good companies!
Kson, Rushia, Pikamee
>nijinigs are obsessed with holo!
Thousands of bait threads and psychotic images prove otherwise
>nijifans are all SEA!
/#/
>niji discords raid the board!
/#/givers will openly use their thread to organize raids and take it to the catalog, like this thread

>>57031778
Now look up the word "Irony"

>>57031778
Nijiseethe

>>57009952
She literally says it's burning down

>>57007118
Enna cute

>>57031778
/#/ is too powerful, it must be destroyed. All we can do is keeping on slandering and raiding it to try and shift the narrative. We must not give up!

>>57007118
There are many things I want to say about Enna /here/ that won't even get me banned but I am holding myself back so hard; because saying those things would make me a genuinely worse person. Like I'm fine shitposting all day about other chuubas, because I never really hated them; but I genuinely hate Enna. Federal crime levels of hate.

>>57007078
Schizo thread? Schizo thread. Niji isn't going anywhere but up, but keep seething in your favela shithole.

>>57037318
Nijisanji isnt, but NijiEN is

>>57007078
>Listen the Enna clip
>Falseflag as always
There is so much to shit on NijiEN for, A whole threads worth honestly you don't have to actually make up shit.

>>57007118
>Ennaschizo still trying
Man I give you props for still going, btw it was Reimu, Millie, Finana and Elira that did most damage.
>>57009154
Anon, it's only EOP retards that think of streaming and vtubing as a "full time job", literally most JP vtubers still go to school or have careers which is why their vtubing is in JP prime time (11pm.)

Or she can just marry some good guy with a nice job (me)

>>57007078

>>57007078
They are so high on the mentality that they can only earn a living a a vtuber in nijisanji
that they think leaving is a return to the wagie-cage
you motherfuckers have international trips multiple times a year from your own pockets

>>57013429
least hate filled chinese woman

>>57008235
yeah OP is a fucking bitch like usual in these threads.

>>57009690
Because Pomu is the best EN chuuba sadly stuck in a dogshit company.
Enna meanwhile is just a vindictive person mad at everything and everyone, herself included. She likes her fans because they gave her an escape from waging and boost her ego.
That's all it is.

Also, I don't think this is as dooming as OP makes it out to be. The HoloEN girls have never really talked about life after vtubing AFAIK, but this is something on everyone's minds. But the nature of the companies make it so that any one Nijisanji talent is replaceable, newer especially, and losing one Holo is more damning.
Flaming tribal wars like these really need to be a bannable offense.

>>57037318
So they're going to discover a darker shade of black?

>>57040718
>The HoloEN girls have never really talked about life after vtubing AFAIK
Because if they don't pull a Sana or fuck it up in some way, they'll actually be able to retire after a career in Hololive

>>57017695
>already planning
only shiory said to respect her collab choinces and specify that she might not collab as much with some senpais in the female branch if they are not that friendly, that was taken out of context by unicorns who said "it is the males" lmao

>>57041544
"if they are not that friendly"? So some of the Hololive girls are unironic bitches behind the scenes? Color me surprised!

>>57041238
even talents who retire like aloe got vtubing back ont rack right away, just by going into holo someone will pick you up knowing you were skilled enough to get in, sana is a different case because she talk about her health and we can speculate only, surgeries etc.

>>57041692
Not that type of retire retard
Aloe didn't gain a single pennie
other girls are in for multiple years growing their savings
some will don't need to work anymore if they graduate

>>57041656
she said it in a way of "im not forcing myself into people i dont know", is kinda like how you dont hate some coworkers but dont really hang out with them, she said she would collab with people shes closer with and asked people to not pressure her into collabing with senpais she doesnt know or is close to, so more like preparing to the people pushing their collabs on holos.

>>57041238
Until the medical bills start rolling in and they wish they had kept a job for medical insurance.

>>57041779
they are not hollywoon millionaires, they dont get as much as you think to quit for a lifetime anon, you can see how they even struggle to fund their own projecs like marine who said she spent her own money to make a lot of big things and was struggling with money for some time, they dont get 25m yearly deals like footballs stars lmao

>>57041238
Most are too young for that and they'd need to be business savvy to set something up to have steady income. Let's say I was making what Marine or Pekora make.
I'd invest in real estate, try and buy some apartments that I could then rent out. If you mean they have a future in the entertainment industry, I would say sure, but maybe not all of them.
Though exponentially way better off than anyone in Niji EN or JP, only the JP Holos have it easier. The EN girls will never make into Western entertainment.

>>57041942
typical modern woman burning money applies to JP it seems

>>57029834
Absolutely Based

"this is fine, it's all fine"