/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

GRIM

/#/ is inclining

NICE

i don't know what to think about this

How do we save holoEN?

Gura doko?

https://minkabu.jp/news/3697618
Surprised this hasn't been posted already but there are some insightful comments from the CFO and Yagoo himself. Especially in response to a question about the growth of foreign branches.

Would holostars be more successful if they didn't have holo in their name?

>>56953356
Holosummer prizes
Aqua : takoyaki maker (Tsukumo)
Lui : RTX 4060 (Zotac)
Watame : snack (Suguru Big Katsu)
Mel : gaming keyboard (Realforce)
Flare : 100k yen travel coupon
Ollie : 100k yen yakiniku coupon (Jojoen)
Koyori : drink (Redbull)
Nene : water sofa (Contieaks https://www.sekikagu.co.jp/contieaks/product/square.html))
Luna : capture card (Avermedia)
Aki : 100k yen (gift card of her choice)
Iofi : luxury bath salt
Fubuki : record player (Auryn https://booth.pm/ja/items/4429366))
Suisei : collagen jelly for skincare (Aishitoto https://aishitoto.com/global/product/pro01/))
Pekora : wine glass
Bae : 1M yen stream fund (grand prize)
Marine : mouse (Vaxee)

copied from a anon some threads ago so credit to anonymous

>>56953398
It's already saved and in the processed of getting saveder until it becomes savedest

>>56953447
Yes, so please remove them from holo universe!

>>56953394
very honest hips in hololive

>>56953131
nta but t's more accurate to translate it to
>Basically, cock

Does anyone have insight into this?
https://twitter.com/MelocoKyoran/status/1695119184840270125
https://twitter.com/MelocoKyoran/status/1695119184840270125
https://twitter.com/MelocoKyoran/status/1695119184840270125

Ass>>>>>>>>>tits
Huge tits are a dime a dozen. Perfectly round, peach asses are as rare as diamonds.

>>56953449
>Pekora : wine glass

>>56953394
It works

Post Advent sub numbers so I can laugh at and samefag Shiori's place as the runt.

>>56953519
I have a peach bum anon, only problem is I'm a man

>focus on drama
>deflecting with more drama
This thread seems to be unable to enjoy streams but feed on negative things from the rivals.

Ironmouse
>vtubing OG. been in the business for longer than even the first hololive member
>connections across and outside vtubing. a pillar of the community
>practically a household name. self-made. doesn't have to rely on leeching from japan for popularity.
>award winner
Nostream Shark
>vtubing for less than half as long as mousey
>no connections inside or outside of vtubing. a complete nobody in the community.
>only gained popularity because she rode the wave that mousey started
>would be a 3view if she couldn't lean on the holoJP box

okbh (unironically the biggest homobeggar community on the internet, even more than twitter) has been having a meltdown for the past day

>>56953438
Yes, reasoned takes have been posted that the staff and facilities for Hololive were lacking, especially on the 3d front, with many members having to book SEVERAL MONTHS in advance in 2022. 2023 was messy due to the new studio, but once things ramp up and people are trained up, things should hopefully not be clogged to hell on the 3d front.
It's a damned shame how poorly HoloEN suffered under the homoEN experiment, but it did also give Cover reason enough to turf Omega.

>>56953438

>insert gura-eeew-leeches.webm

Why didn't you tell me DN streamed? I missed recording his CCV.

>>56953560
Sorry but nerissa is the new runt.

>>56953580
>getting influenced by shitposts
anon it's jork

>>56953438
>let's create a culture that the world loves
>does idol culture
lmao

>>56953580
KEK! the problem is you take all bait like cake!
>consume some
>ignore some
And buy dual monitor or use picture-to-picture

>>56953438
so the reason for no EN debuts according to yagoo was that they could not provide the support because of the studio and other on-place limitations
but they debuted 2 homo gens, which would mean he planned to not support them with studio/3D at all or he is lying

>>56953449
>Koyori : drink (Redbull)
>Iofi : luxury bath salt
Energetic for endurance streamer, and salt for salty streamer, poetry.

>>56953104
It's not about cramming more references it's about cramming references that actually reflect the girls personalities and what they do
Imagine if Aqua's character had none of the references to idol shit or being a gamer, it was literally just "she's a maid and she sweeps lol." That's what Bae feels like.

It's not the number but the quality of references that I find lacking for some girls.

>>56953630
>Yes, reasoned takes
Hey, that's me

>>56953635
So basically Yagoo's reason for the long wait for EN3 is
>We didn't wanna debut new talents until we got 3D pipeline and a proper support network sorted out and was afraid it was gonna upset the talent.
Kinda sounds like a load of bull considering the shitshow that is Tempus 1 & 2

>>56953519
Wrong, you can train and reshape asses, not boobs

>>56953669
How niji and vshojo culture btw?
>love by all???

>>56953580
buy multiple monitors faggot

>>56953606
lmao I went to laugh at the homos on all of the three subreddits and there's where I got the most downvotes

>>56953591
Ironwho?

>>56953606
anyone know if the Japs partied as hard as us over the news?

>>56953447
Unironically yes. If Cover had started an agency for male vtubers with a completely unrelated name instead of holostars it would probably have had a better shot.

>>56953449
so ollie just got a shit ton of free food? sounds good.

>>56953449
>Bae : 1M yen stream fund (grand prize)
You can't say Holo doesn't take good care of their runts.

>>56953757
anon homo pipeline was clear at the time of tempus debuts, remember they are Schrödinger holopro, all the benefits and none of the drawbacks

>>56953635
So he didn't want to debut a new EN gen last year because of the travel restrictions but still went with 8 failures that nobody wanted?

>>56953515
Meloco taught Kyo bad words in Japanese I think.

>>56953606
Wouldn't this count as encouragement to raiding

>>56953438
That means ID3 and Advent's 3D should be ready by holofes5?

>>56953438
>even if we increase the number of talents, it will lead to an increase in the number of talents who are dissatisfied if we cannot provide solid support as a company. think.
>debuts 8 tempus members in the span of 6 months
What the fuck were they thinking? If they could debut that many, they could debut EN 3 and EN4 way faster. That retard doesn't even know they could've just gotten a spanish or a korean branch instead of Tempus. What was Tempus's true objective anyway?

>>56953449
>Koyori : drink (Redbull)
Koyo...

>>56953896
kokujin?

>>56953438
Here is a good question about remuneration, and which answers conclusively what that anon was supposing to be
>reduced margin
but that the CFO clarified in the following way

Questioner
>Looking at the graph on page 10 of the slide, this time the cost of sales for performers decreased compared to the previous quarter and compared to the same period last year.
>I feel a little uncomfortable with steady sales, including distribution content that seems to have a lot of performer distribution.

Kaneko
>We have kept the performer share of distribution revenue unchanged throughout the period, but it is thought that changes in the product mix in the merchandising area have affected the change in the amount of performer remuneration to total sales.

>Commemorative order sales products such as VTuber anniversaries, which account for a large part of the merchandising product composition, include performer remuneration due to the promotion of performers in anniversary distribution and special order production.
>Product costs and unit prices are set relatively high.

>On the other hand, with regards to the group of in-house designed products, which are currently growing in sales, we will maintain flexibility in pricing so that we can have inventory and deliver to retailers so that a wide range of customers can pick up the products throughout the period.
>The cost of goods, including performer compensation, and the unit price of goods are set relatively low.

>As an example of the unit price of products, for example, products sold on anniversary orders are sold as a set at a price of 10,000 yen or more and are purchased by fans with relatively high loyalty, while other products planned by the company is available in a wide range of people at a price range of about 3,000 yen or less, which is suitable for retail.

Long story short
>their cut is the same
>cheaper merch is selling better

why didn't watame win a lifetime supply of chips instead?

>>56953802
The best part is that the boys did generate some goodwill when people saw Vesper and Magni's hideous models.

But, interacting with the girls threw that goodwill away.

>>56953026
>would see the same quality in fan games, songs and illustrations across the industry
Because is like that retard nigger
Skilled internet artist prioritize money over any oshi they have
The animator of this MV
https://youtu.be/DU0IeW9BCzY
Provides the same quality even to 2 views as long as they pay
https://twitter.com/Yunaree/status/1626810973397962753
Because money>oshi happiness

>>56953394
Lap-chan hips >>> powergap

>>56953438
The translation looks horrible. I cannot grasp its meaning properly.
Also, I think the decision is based on what talents initially wanted. Kiara herself did not want new girls until it took too long.
>>56953698
>he planned to not support them with studio/3D at all
I think that's the initial plan.

>>56953606
I thought that place was /vt/-lite. What a bunch of faggots.

>>56953447
1000%.
By having holo- attached to their name, they are FOREVER DOOMED to be associated with Hololive, which makes them look like FUCKING SCRUBS as a result.

>>56953394
Ahhhhh that remind me of that clippers with those weird mouth thumbnails

>>56953945
She called Kyo a chigyu

>>56954006
Loli hips the strongest.

>>56953787
Please understand, her numbers aren't looking too good recently, so he needs to pivot to her irrelevant past to find something to use for his shitposting now.

>>56953942
>What was Tempus's true objective anyway?
Luxiem's counter ops.

>>56953809
She needs to workout, not eat fucking more...

>>56954006
everyone saw la+ dark breath performance at fes

>>56953948
preety much what a lot of people thought, friends for u alone would make a massive difference.

>>56953447
Yes. They tried to create sub units not related with the main Holostars (Uproar and Tempus) but the Holo stigma will live on until they change name overall.

>>56953606
He should understand that he’s implying that he believes that the “incels” were a very possible reason as to why the two had a long hiatus and graduated. If he actually hates “incels” and isn’t there for the drama, his post would be commiserating about the good times.

>>56953942
Tempus was literally just a direct response to Luxiem because Yagoo got jealous of all the chink fujo dollars they were getting.

>>56953985
Anon, you are missing the point and debating a completely different assertion.
Your point is
>if you pay for something you'll get exactly what you pay for
That's undeniable, but that is NOT the point being made, which is
>Hololive is awarded, for free, by members of the audience, a disproportionate number of high quality fan games, illustrations, OPs, EDs, intros, outros and thumbnails.
>It happens because their nurtured that exact type of audience, willing to go above and beyond to make their oshis shine

Your rebuttal to that point is to show that high quality paid for content also exists.
It is true but it is absolutely unrelated to the point being made.

>>56954138
They tried to do that but at the same time force the homo under "Hololive Production". Every of their move contradict each other

>>56954177
>Yagoo got jealous
And he throws a shit(temflops) on it to disrupts its grown and burn it to ground
>REALLY BASED NGL....

>That waiting room recovery

>>56954203
They should just rebrand them as STARS and put them under a shell production company under Cover.

>>56954032
All of the sarcastic child subreddits like the 'okbuddy-' or '-circlejerk' ones descend from the SRS subbreddit culture which was populated by irony troons and political activists, basically the opposite of people here.

>>56954138
Even if they change the name now it's too late already. People will continue to consider them holostars. They'd have to debut a new brand of streamers and go through a considerable branding campaign to make it clear that it's completely unrelated to holo (and actually let them reflect that on their activities), or else it'll always be just more stars with a fancy subtitle.

>>56953560
Well she’s not actually that much farther behind Bijou, but everyone slowed down now to the point where changing this order would be difficult. Like months probably. Plus Bijou streams long hours, which is good for subs.

>>56954189
And I said holoen mostly commision their stuff than use free fanmade stuff because, as you said, their quality is better than whatever the fandom puts out for free.
And the ones who get commisioned are people who are multifandom or do not follow hololive at all.

>>56954344
It's probably too late for that. That sort of move needed to have been done from the start, doing it now would just be viewed by most people as 'banishment room' action.

>>56953948
I am confused. The remuneration part of cost of sales is higher when the merch price is lower?

>>56954006

I've been away for the past 2 weeks. Can someone please tell me if there's been any juicy drama or anything interesting in the meantime?

>>56953845
Her CCV may not be great but how are her album numbers looking?

>>56954392
>doing it now would just be viewed by most people as 'banishment room' action.
That's a risk I'm willing to take

>>56954376
Were people actually expecting Myth level growth? That requires going viral, which you basically have no control over.

>>56954177
>Tempus shared the NijiEN male's audience which indirectly contributed to their decline in numbers

raspberry report doko?

>>56954006
>>56954443

>>56954279
I like the fact that Kiara, one of the few who was for HoloPro unity has now become the new face of shitposting against homos and beggars.

>>56954384
Anon, I understood the point you made in the first place but it is a point completely orthogonal to what is being said.
The core of your point is
>Hololive girls hire good artists regardless of their allegiance
It is a correct point but completely unrelated to the point being discussed, which is the enormous amount of free high quality content which is awarded, for free, by the Hololive fandom to their favorite girls, in a way much more prevalent than the other companies in the same industry.

Your point continues being
>the Hololive girls can pay for high quality material
and that's true, but it is not related to the initial point.

>>56953438
>>56953635
Honestly feel like Yagoo is coping a bit here. "Lack of support" being the reason when they felt there was enough support to debut EIGHT Holostars makes no sense. I understand that Stars need less work than the girls but they still hired 8 of the niggas

This to me sounds like they were converted specifically with the 3D support more than anything else, and didn't want to add any new girls until at least Myth and Council had their 3Ds lined up, which I can understand being concerned about that, but I don't believe that was the correct decision and new girls should have been added even if they'd have to wait a while for 3D

>>56954453
2 homo fired

>>56954555
the "Bummer I Guess" sealed it
>ULTRA HYPER GODLY BASED!

>>56953447
I'm not sure. They would definitely have the potential to become much bigger, but without the Hololive name to piggyback them into relevancy to begin with, they'd have to actually work for it.

I can't wait to see Bae passing Fauna in subs

>>56954453
Homos dead, homos locked in the closet and a faggot got BAU BAU'd. And that was just in the last 24 hours.

>>56954494
>Were people actually expecting Myth level growth?
That would make no sense, as Myth had no competition while demand (the pool of people wanting to watch) was very high. Myth actually does have to compete now, as we are seeing already.

>>56953447
No way.
It's a curse but also a blessing for them.

>>56954641

>>56954432
What the CFO mentions is that (for instanec) Anniversary merch is funded and produced by the girls themselves, command a higher price and, consequently, results in a higher remuneration for them but, in the period in question, the number of company produced merchandise grew significantly more than talent produced merch and those are cheaper, and funded and produced by the company.
That resulted in the revenue growing more than the remuneration.

>>56954620
>>56954666
holy shit, like actually fired and not graduated?
I need to got shitpost now

>>56954453
Literally sums up with
>hololive only grows stronger >:3

>>56954601
I mean, at this point, anything Cover says that is like1
>"Yeah, we want to be careful about 'x' because we might not have the resources for that"
can just be countered with
>But, you made Tempus, though. Tempus 1 AND 2.

Realistically, do you think Magni leave because he thought he have a chance to collab with Marine and Gura?

>>56954745
Graduated. Most likely didn't renew their contracts.

>>56954601
do stars get their 3ds any later than the girls? This is just cope from yagoo to hide the failure that was tempus

>>56953792
Nah, not as hard as we did. They shared screenshots of our celebration and were pretty impressed. They think we hate the homos more than they do and I 'm inclined to agree with them.

>>56954432
Personalized expensive merch. Holos get higher cuts but they foot the costs. Inflation means less money for the holos because the production costs are higher
Cheap merch sold well. Holos get a smaller cut from these but they don't have to deal with the manufacturing costs.
This means the company made more money while the holos made less

>>56954787
Do I think he believed he had a chance? Yes. Did he leave because of that? Probably not.

>>56954675
There are anons in this thread who think that any EN vtubers who can't reach the levels of the Myth fad days are failures.

>>56954494
>Were people actually expecting Myth level growth?
Anyone who was is retarded. The only thing Advent had going for them was that people were starved for a new gen. But, the things that made Myth take off like it did are not replicable.

>>56954821
Uproar got their 3D 6~ months after their debuts

>>56954453
I like how this vtuber laughs, kinda like someone cleaning a window. Sounds similar to Bijou.
https://youtu.be/aNLC_ROgJsQ?t=382

>>56953449
>Lui : RTX 4060 (Zotac)
She currently has a 3070ti that's 30% faster. Hope she doesn't doesn't swap it out.

>>56954797
lol wow
how have the sisters been coping?

>>56954641
I also can't wait to see fauna catching up Bae by spamming Minecraft, Hitman, Skyrim and Planet zoo

>>56954745
Youve missed the glorious day
>The tears in reddit
>The malding in twitter
>The meltdown in /catalog/
>The homoseethere /here/

>>56954844
>while the holos made less
Relative to the total revenue.

>>56953942
Here's what I think he means in a very simplified way

>Myth and council are upset because they have to wait 2 years for 3D shit
>Ok so let's make sure that we get our 3D situation sorted out so that EN3 won't be upset by the 3D situation
>We can debut stars instead since 3D isn't as big a priority for them
>OH SHIT now everyone's mad cause we spent 2 years waiting to get more girls.

>>56954745
Join the party anon, sisters are malding and sneeding all over the catalog

>>56954787
Unironically, NotMagni has a higher ceiling for relevancy and internet stardom than Magni did. So, in his case, I think leaving genuinely makes sense.

I can't say the same for Vesper, though. If that guy thinks he's worth more than Cover tried to pay him, he's delusional.

>>56954876
Luxiem replicated it and managed to exceed it.

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>66,734: Hololive (Hololive)
>52,135: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>44,960: Miko (Hololive)
>30,222: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>25,816: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>24,762: Pekora (Hololive)
>22,511: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>22,174: Pekora (Hololive)
>20,488: Shiina (Nijisanji)
>17,085: Koyori (Hololive)
>15,598: Korone (Hololive)
>15,036: Chiroru (Indie)
>13,968: Okayu (Hololive)
>13,705: Watame (Hololive)
>13,667: IRyS (Hololive)
>12,327: GatchmanV (Indie)
>12,186: Bijou (Hololive)
>12,105: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>11,700: Kronii (Hololive)
>10,901: Fuwamoco (Hololive)
>10,670: Fuwamoco (Hololive)

Gold for Hololive main channel with the summer variety show, with Mysta Final Luxiem karaoke getting silver and Miko, bronze

>>56954954
And relative to the previous quarters

>>56954948
dammit I'm actually sad I missed it
what day did it happen? I wanna go back and look.

I wonder how long that split for Vesper's RM will keep going before people get bored. I checked it out of curiosity, full of mental illness.

Another nijiyab
> Meloco taught Kyo the word チー牛 (cheegyuu, short for Cheese Gyuudon) on stream
> Basically a slang word meant as an insult to otaku/inkya types (pic rel)
> Meloco's entire JP audience IS pic rel, they sperg out at her for teaching Kyo about niche 5ch slang that he doesn't need to know
> VOD Privated : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uqoG0TgFbU
> Apology on twitter : https://twitter.com/MelocoKyoran/status/1695119184840270125

>>56954999
Jeez, I almost forgot the telly
Thanks dwarf!

>>56955012
yesterday

>>56953698
Considering how the homos don’t even get a concert this year, there’s not a real reason to even rush 3D for them

>>56954999
Main channel gold = MIKO GOLD.

>>56954999
>66,734: Hololive (Hololive)
ANY HOLO GIRL LEWDS TODAY BOYS

>>56954989
Yeah? Damn. I wonder how Gura feels about Vox having more subs than her.

>>56955029
>niche

>>56954902
If you look at the catalog you'll see some threads trying to stir shit against mori, kronii, ame, kiara, irys, bae.... almost everyone.

>>56954999
Bae won, Bae lewds.

>>56954989
kek, Luxiem hasn't even gotten a single 6 figure stream, and their last chance is probably the graduation of their biggest talent. Delusional.

>>56954376
Can any of them pass Anya at the end of the year

>>56955036
People these days are more into the newfangled raspberry battlegrounds than into the old and busted daily tally

Oh hey, it's that time of the month again.

>>56955047
thank you, anon

>>56955029
EN btw

>>56953669
Anon, there's more to "Idol culture" than shaving heads, cum covered hand and South-Korean death cult attitude toward anything with a dick

>>56954999

>>56955111
Yes, because Niji cant compete anyore (unless botted koshien)

>>56954989
>replicated it
roru
>exceed it
rumao

>>56954999
Lamy won! 3D LAMY LEWDS!

>orc general faster than any holo split, even mogging all of Advent girls and /ggg/
He won. You lost. Are you guys going to keep crying and making catalog threads about him? He's more popular than every Holowhore.

>>56954999
SEGS THIS WEEKEND BOYS

>>56955029
Fucking kek
Based meloco try to sabotage kyo

>>56955029
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGhvFZPRqVE
oh yeah i know this because this video got recommended on my home page

>>56955093
I see, I'm curious, did any of the homocollabers mention them graduating yet?

>>56955177
nobody will even remember who he is in a week

>>56954999
>>56954999

>>56955058
I really don't want to bring these people up but I wonder how many of the beggars even know Shinove and how much he did for Stars

>>56955143
Qrd on the cum hands?

>HOLOLIVE BOARD
>HOLOLIVE THREAD

>>56955177
>samefagging to boost post/min

>>56955127
What happened to Mori?

>>56955177
Whomst??

>>56955205
Only Kiara
>Bummer, I guess

>>56955009
That is not really possible to determine, considering there are girls having their anniversaries / birthdays (and hence their self produced merch) in different moments in the year and with an extra factor
>the loss of Rushia in the start of the period and Sana in the middle, plus Haachama, Shion, Aqua, Gura and Ina for most of the period

>>56954032
/vt/ but with the same 3 jokes beaten into the ground forever (suipiss/saplings/unicorns le bad) and everyone having to break character to go "haha but seriously guys" or else they risk getting banned

>>56953394

>>56955233

>>56955205
Only wawa has talked about them, no one else yet

>>56955169
WAMY LEWDS

>>56954279
OH NO NO NO shots fired.
"Miss Please Respond's" status ??

>>56955169
Oh no, she /become/

>>56953447
They would have to stand on their own feet, so... hard to tell.
Idk how Hololive's scouting department got people like the first Army, Subaru, Korone, Okayu and HoloX while the homos only got Roberu, Astel and maybe Gamma as standouts...

Another interesting tidbit.
>90% of youtube revenue is from SC and Membership
Not that surprising, but insulates cover pretty well against Adpocolypse type of scenarios.

>>56954999
>>56955066

>>56953438
What the actual fuck is this talking about

>>56954902
By shitting and farting and crying ITT and on the catalog, an oddly pleasant cacophony.

>>56955287
T-That's a girl double X chromo Lamy, right?
I like my Lamys natty!

>>56955205
That's the glorious part. No, they haven't. Unless Mori brought them up during this stream the only one to mention it was Kiara and only because she happened to be live so the beggars went to her. Her lack of interest was palpable.
>We never talked to each other
>Bummer, I guess
A rare occasion where I kneel to the chicken

>>56955276
ah so its /catalog/, got it.

>>56955277

>>56955177
So where were these people as his numbers tanked? It'll be gone in a week or two anyway.

>>56955318
I think it might be AI vtubers? I think it was brought up in an earlier shareholders meeting.

>>56955318
Super 3D

>>56955318
Fleshtubers?

>>56954032
kek it's reddit-filtered /vt/ which means it has the worst parts of /vt/ (ironic shitposting) without the best parts (actual fun edits, anti homo and anti niji posting etc.)
Main sub is unironically more fun than those tards.

SHITrissa mogged by GODios 3 times in a row despite eating a 3k raid.

>>56955318
AI but with an avatar

>>56955177

>>56955340
>A rare occasion where I kneel to the chicken
Her street cred in this thread grew threefold

>>56955374
>>56955398
It's not, it's CodeMiko style avatars

>>56954292
the fuck? that's not rocket chan right?

>>56955205
If anything they seemed happy. Every one of the homo collabers streamed yesterday, and no one seemed down at all. Though I didn't watch Mori, so I don't know with her.

>>56955275
Literally in the financial report, anon. Lower than the previous quarters, lower YoY

>>56955318
3dpd streamers have a hard time acquiring an audience?

Why is Idios being used as bait now?

>two council anniversaries today
>probably won't even get on the cripple tally because luxiem is taking things seriously again
Is Council the biggest flop in vtubing history?

>>56955205
Literally the only reaction from the girls side was from Kiara, and that was because the announcement happened literally as she started her stream.
No one else has touched this topic, even vaguely.

>>56955405
So is Millie /vt/ version sorta?

>>56955485
It's a psyops to make the name stick

>>56955277
she didnt give me a warning...

>>56955292
Where were all those people when he streamed? He'll be lucky to barely touch 4view once the drama buff wears off.

>>56955423
So, no more pretending that Idios are "le good nijis"? Understood. Can't wait for the next sub-15k outfit reveal.

>>56955205
>Ame changed her stream from a game stream to karaoke
>her second song was “sell out”

>>56955177
>He won

>>56955274
>>56955283
lol I just watched the clip, beautiful
>>56955323
beautiful
>>56955340
beautiful

>>56953936
There is a good chance, only for ID3 though, since they still used EN1 and ID1 in FES3 and rushed ID2 for FES4.
I don't think they will use Advent since they are still in their first year contract.

>We have strong female talent while our competitor have strong male talent
God the homos are useless

>>56955503
>seriously
>FINAL FINAL FINALE OF THE FINAL FINALE BEFORE THE FINAL ULTIMATE GRADUATION THIS TIME FOR SURE

>>56953449
none of them picked sex with me as their prize..why...

>>56955177
I don't think you understand anon. He's out of holo. I win. I don't give a shit what happens to him afterwards, this isn't a personal vendetta against him.

>>56955571
>Where were all those people when he streamed?
In xitter

I didn't know there was a vtuber thread in fucking /wsg/ of all places. What the FUCK

>>56955337
Of course it'll be a XX chrom Wamy
Any Wamy is a Wamy

>>56955529
The best part is homobeggars flood her pre-chat asking about da bois graduations, giving them the leeway to bait evil unicorns and making numerous clipbaits, instead Kiwawa just straight slay 'em begging ass.

>>56955529
I kneel, orange woman
>>56955581
KEK

>>56953936
ID3 3D already halfway done, they rushed Kobo first because of the Vivid Live Performance

>>56955683
Why would that be surprising?

>>56955631
I'm just glad they do realize their girls can have a decent chance at absorbing new female audiences too. Holosummer having Marui as one of their partners is one step in the right direction.

>>56953936
based on viv:id cruise kobo will perform in 3D. so we may see her 3D before holofes5

>>56955386
WHAT UP MOTHER FUCKERS

>>56955581
Holy shit really? Based Ame.

>>56955318
he's taking a jab at that korean virtual kpop

>>56955632
What buffs do they have left even? If they were going to do an off collab you'd think they'd have done the karaoke there.

>>56954897
>RTX 4060
Really?
Wow what a worthless prize
This isn't 2021 anymore when GPUs were exorbitantly priced commodities

>>56955701
My favorite part is she killed their cope of “you’re just jealous they always talk to each other behind the scenes”

So why was Biboo a sleeper instead of an instant hit? Was it the ffxiv+zelda debut debuff combo? It took Fromsoft to lift her out of runt status.

>>56955309
gaming topic VODs vs vtuber SC and membership culture, yeah i can see it

>>56955631
just give up already yagoo, oh my fucking god
i hope investor screams at them more about homo leeching failures

>>56955730
Cause it wasn't there the last time I delved into /wsg/ for funny webms

>>56955774
Probably picked something in the budget, but yeah there's only a few holomems that have a weaker GPU than a 4060 and I think half of them are in Advent right now.

>>56955774
to add insult to injury, it even performs worse than the last gen of the same tier (3060) in some benchmarks. this current gen is such a mess.

>>56955754
what buff ? dragging Mysta corpse of course, the luxiem stream can use bait title like "remembering Mysta part 1"

>>56955468
>Lower than the previous quarters, lower YoY
Anon, the variation within quarters come from the fact each girl has their self produced merch in a different quarter. When you compare the quarter where Pekora or Suisei or MIko have her self produced merch with a quarter where Mel, Roboco or the absent Haachama have theirs, there will be a variation in either direction.
With the variation between "revenue power" between each girl, the quarter to quarter difference will be dominated by this factor, which girl(s) had their birthdays in that particular quarter.

As for the YoY, Hololive operated most of 2022 with their heaviest hitting girl fired **after** her birthday (which falls in January 22) and that alone would be enough to cause a huge drop in revenue which all Tempus, UPROAR and ID3 put together wouldn't be able to cover.
Adding to that there are the partial or total absences of Haachama, Shion, Aqua, Gura and Ina for most of the year with the same consequence in the total revenue.

>>56955840
4000 series is a scam

>>56955774
I'm not a computer guy. Why does the 4060 suck?

>>56955774
Hasn't the price of gpus been getting more unreasonable over time?
I get all my tech news from LTT so I have no idea.

ES bros... You are gonna have to be happy with the bird spic.

>>56955503
eh happens they will try again next year

Man a good soundpost woud be the graduation announcement of the homos combined with Kiara going ANNOUNCEMENT ANNOUNCEMENT from holotori dance

>>56955733
what is it about Mumei that makes women go wild for her?

>>56955581
So was Ame giving us a clue that the two fags were whining about money and bailed because they thought they could get more in Mythic or some group like that?

>>56955786
Biboo has to shine against FWMC and Nerissa, who are top tierin their own (at least Nerissa is on produced songs) and didn't have an A moment, but she is a clip machine so she will be on top of FWMC if they let her.

>>56955884
>can't compete against luxiem in 2022
>can't compete against luxiem in 2023
2024 for sure though

>>56955826
All of the prizes with actual pictures are provided by cover's partners if you pay attention. Cover had sponsorships with ZOTAC before.

>>56955873
4090 is a very good card, but everything else was designed to upsell the flagship, and they got too comfortable at jewing customers because of the pandemic prices.

>>56955918
i mean by the looks of it there might not be luxiems left by august 2024

COME ON

>>56955877
It's the same performance as last gen which was already priced too high due to cryptomining. but also it's not an upgrade for 90% of the holomems >>56955826

>>56955905
Marui the department store, not the cutest owl in the world

>>56955883
translation: no ES branch because spics are poor fags lmao

>>56955953
Didn't Rikotan made an official Hololive merch? Or was her fanbooks?

>>56955318
What they mean by "virtual human" is a Hatsune Miku style online-only persona modeled after a real human, but not with just the voice but with a face as well.
Basically AI humans, and stuff like Actor voicebanks, actor likenesses made from AI etc.

>>56955786
She's a game streaming specialist pretty much exclusively, seems like it takes a while for them to get going because they don't stand out right away.

>>56955430
>studies also show
That's always a red flag of "what you're about to read is absolute horse shit"

>>56955883
Oh my god he straight up confirmed they hired the spic as a test subject for the ES market because their spending sucks ass lmao

>>56953449
>Pekora : wine glass

>>56955954
They can stick it into the PC and use it for Cover app and OBS only, I guess? Would need some technical know-how to assign GPUs to specific apps though so it's hopeless.

>>56954999
holosummer peaked at the miComet part
MICOMET GOLD

>>56954582
>High Quality
>in a way much more prevalent than the other companies in the same industry.
Is 2023 anon, even 3 views get "High Quality" fan content for free and for Holo...once you swim through the sea of inspired art, paint art, redrawn memes and ai shit you get some good stuff.
https://twitter.com/artist_name_here/status/1693490308632482179
Good luck to FWMC in finding something worthy for the contest

>>56955991
oh Jesus I need to get my eyes checked

>>56954177
I don't know what the worst is, that Tempus miserably failed, or that Luxiem's numbers aren't even much higher than that numbers of a dude like Bettel.

>>56956030
so uh, like Plave?

>>56954999
6-13 win for nijisanji, hololive is dead

>>56956056
this is kinda gay

>>56955541
yeah I suppose
ironically, Millie's stream was a lot more harsher than even /vt/ since they shit on Pomu's 3D stream that was generally well received /here/.

>>56955906
That’s my guess. If you see either of em join mythic or if vshonen ends up being a real thing, you’ll get your answer.

>>56955631
>Media like Tiktok are watched by extremely large number of women
He wasn't wrong about that one

>>56954999
>66,734: Hololive (Hololive)
MOGGING MOGGING MOGGING. GET MOGGED.

>>56955529
Oh NOW suddenly they're ignoring the homos? God I hate Mori, Kronii, Ame and Bae so much

>>56955954
>>56956052
>They can stick it into the PC and use it for Cover app and OBS only
Some girls have a second PC exclusively for OBS and their Live2D app so it doesn't lag their games (FPS players mostly)

>>56955883
>They genuinely have plans to try the spanish market
Really hope Mr. Tanigo is ready for the catacombs of menheras this will bring up, both fans and talents. The chinks at least back off to their caves when they are losing, latinos just.don't.give.a.fuck. and will kamikaze themselves if they think they can bring you down with them.

>>56954999
Good god am I glad that the niji homo didnt win gold today

>>56955950
more like the whole branch become にじさんじ

>>56955859
RUSHIA WAS FIRED IN 2022 Q4, BEFORE THE 3RD HOLOFES AND I'M TALKING ABOUT YoY
2023 Q1 1030 (Rushia was ALREADY GONE the previous quarter, before 3rd FEST)
2024 Q1 910 (-11.6% YoY)

>>56955991
The girls must be ecstatic with the deal, they probably will get some merch for free

>>56955029
But you guys told me ONLY Hololive has that market ...

>>56956030
or kinda like that hologram Tupac that performed on a concert. the interviewer doesn't understand the concept of "uncanny valley" and why avatars like the ones on zucc's metaverse flopped hard.

>>56954999
>66,734: Hololive (Hololive)

>>56955541
millie stream went for the fucking jugular kek, some nice criticals were scored that day

>>56954999
I request Nodoka lewds

>>56955309
Throwing a frame up early is a good idea then. If people can’t catch the stream, they can still be persuaded to SC and catch the vod later. Also that means the girls get a cut of about 34.25% (.35*.9 + .275 * .1) from YT revenue right? A slight difference, but it helps fine tune rev cut estimates.

>>56955714
Wait what, Kobo already has 3D?

>>56955906
No, Ame probably likes them. Singing is not proof that you hate other people. However, Kiara certainly doesn’t seem to give two shits about them here: >>56955529

>>56956074
Plave are like japanese vtubers, but they were modeled with the manhwa male face in mind.

so tempus and uproar was a bad idea last year?

>>56954999

>>56954999
Million Yen Rat

>>56956074
I honestly don't know whether that's AI or actors with avatars...

>>56954601
It feels like homos got more or less the same kind of behind the scenes support as the girls reminder how long IRyS had to wait for her redesign in comparison to Vesleech.

>>56954999
>66,734: Hololive (Hololive)
Mogging Central.

>>56956207
yep, it was confirmed kobo will use her proper 3D during holoid concert next month

>>56955883
>Hired a FUCKING HOMO to test the spic market with a spic talent
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>They're not gonna go into ES because they're poorer than indonesians
Gods, I mean I figured as much, but man. YOU KNOW IT'S GRIM WHEN COVER WOULD RATHER SHIP TO BRAZIL THAN THE EU THOUGH, THAT'S HOW BAD IT IS TO DEAL WITH EU RED TAPE.
I'm crying here, man.

>>56956074
plave is trained korean idols past expiration date for flesh activities recyled into vtubers, they upload gaming/dance routines/songs.

>>56955883
HoloES will be speaking in English just like HoloID kek

>>56956259

>>56956207
She's getting one for the ID concert tour this December. It probably means that Zeta and Kaela are getting theirs soon too

>>56955883
Yagoo just open KR branch.
KR is pretty huge with idol thing. and im pretty sure there are a lot of talented woman with ordinary face want to be idol there. you see KR has highest beauty standard in worldwide, so a lot of talented people cant achieve their dream there because of their face.

>>56956207
yeah, Vivid is basically a concert where all of HoloID member sing in full 3D

Why does this board say 1view, 2view, 3view and the like instead of single digit, double digit, etc. It's so non-intuitive.

>>56956060
>Good luck to FWMC in finding something worthy for the contest
She'll have no problem
>Is 2023 anon, even 3 views get "High Quality" fan content for free
You seem skeptical that Hololive gets a HUGE and disproportionate amount of free high quality art, songs, illustrations, animations fan games, a lot of that by reputable artists which do it exclusively to please their favorites and which would otherwise charge for the same commission.

I don't really think it would be worth attempting to prove, because you could easily resort to the "Sturgeon's law" and show that for each high quality asset Hololive gets they also get 9 times as much stuff without the same quality.
I'll just drop a one liner then, because it is a good summary of the current difference between Hololive and the rest of the vtuber industry
>where is Nijicure?
This is often asked in jest, but it carries the message here just fine.

>>56956132
Windows 10 and 11 can assign specific applications to specific GPUs. OBS can also select which GPU to use. 2PC setups are too much effort for the gain over doing it all in one PC nowadays.

>>56956331

>>56953606
Just checked that sub and saw this. If that OP looks familiar, it's because it's the same guy making shitstirring posts against IRyS on the main Holo sub. What a surprise.
Also found this comment kek

>>56955906
Fun but probably a coincidence
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmMWKmxtm2A&t=2148s

kek helmir got blocked by the holoanti homobeggar

>>56954999
miComet love!

>>56956135
Probably won't be anytime soon for an ES talent, there's really no positive outlook economically for ES countries atm except MAYBE Mexico, but the ones that matter already speak English anyways.

>>56956261
they have human actos playing them, most of them washed-up or old kpop talents.

>>56956308
cover need a distributor for EU that solve the duty free zone and later moving the merch inside the united market BUT BEFORE THAT THEY NEED TO HAVE A PROPER WAREHOUSE IN NA.

>>56956365
Laziness? Why use more word when few word do trick.

>>56956384

>>56956417
The “happy ending” for Mexico is basically to be used by the US as cheap labor

>>56955883
based, and i am a spic

>>56956433

>>56956423
Yea. Just a 'by the numbers' deal, there really should be a warehouse set up somewhere along the west coast to cut shipping costs, especially if they're increasing the amount of restockable goods that are cheap. Why the fuck would I buy acrylics if they cost MORE to ship than the price of one, for example?

>>56955883
>ES got the same fate as EU
lmao

So is this the first time the MP curse has actually shown real prediction power, or were people aware of it before Rushia?

>>56953591
Never heard of her. You got a video of her moving an avatar before 2019?

>>56956474
If they help to kill the cartels, then I am all for it.
t. Mexicano.

>>56953438
>>56953948
It's funny how a lot of this matches up with that big post Soraposter put out a month ago, now that I'm looking at it. Especially the whole "Performer's fee" being linked to the pay that Talents get. Does that mean the estimates for approximate pay were somewhat accurate?
I do find it rough that the focus on increasing merch is seemingly focused entirely on company-wide, stable products like the small plush series. I was hoping that they would find a way to make the Talent-specific merch go through a faster pipeline, but I suppose there's only so much juice you can pump into a production line without straight-up pursuing vertical integration. And God knows Cover is not going to fucking buy a factory.

>>56956482

So uhh, is there any lore reason as to why /rando/ exist?

>>56955094
>>56956259
>>56956331
>>56956384
>>56956433

>bae

>>56956405
stop it they are just business partners

>>56956365
I am more of a x*10^n guy myself, other times I like using floor(log10(n)) + 1

>>56955029
My God, can't they have a week without a PR disaster?

>>56956474
Basically, the plan of "get rich enough before you get old' that China tried too, but failed because they fucked up with the One Child Policy being in place for too long, fucking their pop demographics really fucking hard.

Why did Tempus end up having so much word of mouth and yet so little actual engagement?

Can't wait for my drug-cartel-daughter oshi to debut in HoloES Gen 1

>>56955883
>However, the Spanish-speaking world is a rather difficult region in terms of average spending per customer
Meanwhile Indonesia:

>>56956534

>>56956567
People are misogynists and therefore hate Hololive/vtubing because women are most successful at it. That is why they latched on to Tempus

>>56954601
>go to a famous steakhouse to eat steak
>oh man im dying for some thick ass meat
>serves everyone ramen
all this homo push just makes no sense

>>56956365
Open wide.
/hlg/ and /hlgg/ used to kill a bunch of niche threads on /jp/
2hu -> 2view

>>56956431
That's fair. It's still kinda weird to me because it's not always literal.

>>56956546
Based

>>56953356
Nito Wai passed FuwaMoco.

>>56956525
If the War on Terror is any guide, it'll end with El Chapo as Mexico's new president

>>56956567
They're like Kens to Barbies

>>56954999
>out of nowhere guerilla karaoke
>enters tally
sasuga my vsinger wifeRyS

>>56956135
It also doesn't help that the only thing ES countries know about anime is yaoi and Dragon Ball.

You put an ES girl in Hololive and it'll take approx. 3 days for her to try to cancel Gura, Bijou, Lap, and Shion for being pedobaiters and sleep with a genmate's boyfriend.

>>56956590

>>56956156
Q1 for Hololive is April + May + June, right? Wasn't that the period of postponed anniversaries / birthdays due to the studio closure?
It is also the period with Haachama anniversary (now absent).

The one way to take away these variations would be to have the revenue split per talent because, without that, all you have is that
>some talents are missing
>some remuneration is missing
>some events are missing

>>56956647
Who?

>>56955883
>support this homo or you won't get your own branch
Well I didn't want it anyways

>>56953519
based

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnBKzFIHsA0

woops

>>56956690

why the fuck are we posting bae

>worst ccv in council
>lowest subs in council
>2nd worst SCs in holoEN
>mogged by half of holoEN in vocal ability
>mogged by kiara in dancing
>dogshit music views despite spamming projects and endless cover shilling
>low merch sales
>annoying voice
>annoying zoomer personality
>boring during regular streams
>horrible at games
>horrible at zatsu
>low twitter followers
>no mindshare
>constant leeching off first army, other ENs and JPs
>still a runt after everything

seriously bae has 0 redeeming factors

>>56956723
Now you know how EU feels

>>56955786
She focused on action games, so her views will depend on what she is playing.

can an anon answer this?
They first showed off the big studio room with chloe, Sora and someone else.
why did they stop using it and when will they return to using it?

>>56956388
a lot of the homobeggars from the main place are also on okbh, the multiple jokes trying to mix holos with stars aren't just ''Oh I had this idea for a meme'' posts, they actually hate how much power cgdct has in hololive and can't stfu about how the nijisanji culture is better

What went wrong with male vtubing in the West? Why can't we have a Western King?

>>56956334
Kaela talked how they'll be very busy in October with something, I wouldn't be surprised if they did 3D then

>>56956540
Has some great lewds, don't be judgin' bro.

>>56956748
so start post lewds of the other holomems in the stream instead of writing wall of text

>>56956539
Who cares?

It's boring when Luxiem gets serious.

>>56956367
So? Hololive doesn't have their own Flappy Bird.
Nijis 1 - Holobronies 0

>>56956761
>why did they stop using it and when will they return to using it?
They did stop using it? Wasn't that the one where they had Gura and the rest of the swimsuit event with all of those girls in the same room?

>>56956567
some people unironically thought Tempus getting an "in" with Holos would be their chance to become HoloStars and fuck the chuubas.
others thought it would be a good self-insert.

>>56956821
kek, this shitpost worked better with
>Rocksuki
and a selen smug face

Oh hi, just Moomin on up.

>>56956693
Yes?
That bloke is probably the same fag who kept trying to say the holos got a worse cut, which we have clear proof that isn't the case. They DID get paid less as a group, which is explainable by the shifting around of the 3d lives due to studio hort and missing chama.

>>56953438
I can tell that like, 90% of you guys aren't reading this article, because if you were, you'd be fucking salivating over this exchange.
To summarize:
>Questioner: So, the data you've put out shows us that most of your fanbase is male, and mostly in their twenties. We see that you have a brand dedicated to attracting women, called "Holostars," but I have the impression that it fucking failed. With that in mind, what are you doing to expand the number of women who watch your product?

>Tanigo(Yagoo): Well, we're looking into TikTok. A lot, I mean a LOT of women use TikTok, so if we can make music that blows up on TikTok, we think it will attract more women to our product.

>As you already know, our brand is defined by "Strong Female Talent," while our competitor has "Strong Male Talent."

>We also understand that there are many women who are in our competition who have female fans. So honestly? As far as we're concerned, we believe we can acquire female fans with "Hololive" content, not just "Holostars."

Bro had to take a fucking hard L in that one

>>56956693
You have the CFO admitting to it here
>>56953948
>Questioner
>Looking at the graph on page 10 of the slide, this time the cost of sales for performers decreased compared to the previous quarter and compared to the same period last year.
>I feel a little uncomfortable with steady sales, including distribution content that seems to have a lot of performer distribution.

>Kaneko
>We have kept the performer share of distribution revenue unchanged throughout the period, but it is thought that changes in the product mix in the merchandising area have affected the change in the amount of performer remuneration to total sales.

>Commemorative order sales products such as VTuber anniversaries, which account for a large part of the merchandising product composition, include performer remuneration due to the promotion of performers in anniversary distribution and special order production.
>Product costs and unit prices are set relatively high.

>On the other hand, with regards to the group of in-house designed products, which are currently growing in sales, we will maintain flexibility in pricing so that we can have inventory and deliver to retailers so that a wide range of customers can pick up the products throughout the period.
>The cost of goods, including performer compensation, and the unit price of goods are set relatively low.

>As an example of the unit price of products, for example, products sold on anniversary orders are sold as a set at a price of 10,000 yen or more and are purchased by fans with relatively high loyalty, while other products planned by the company is available in a wide range of people at a price range of about 3,000 yen or less, which is suitable for retail.

>>56956746
>>56956748
Cause she's hot and it's not like you can ever post her lewds normally.

>>56956874
moom subgrowth gonna overtake advent kek

>>56955231
Mostly oldfag rumors
https://www.sankakucomplex.com/2012/02/03/idol-otaku-inflict-semen-handshake-on-akb48/
Yes, I know, it's cringe
But then you'd hope it at least turned out that way, because reality is way worse
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_AKB48_handsaw_assault

>>56956338
this
i dont understand why they still dont open kr branch until now
-hololive is already booming in there
-isegye already proved idol and vtuber is massive success there
-and it easy to debut 3d since kr is closer to japan

is yagoo really that scared to open kr branch because of niji failure?

>>56956750
I mean, is not that horrible, in the EU you get a combination of several languages and that on itself would be exotic, here we don't have too many languages but we do have plenty of accents that could be treated as exotic too, it wouldn't be that bad having those branches I believe, but not at the cost of being a homo supporter

>>56956884
>and missing chama.
The thing is: it was not just Haachama missing. Most of the EN girls took a huge hit in their merch sales given, well, among other things, the increased shipping rate.
Kronii in particular, she took an extra hit for foregoing limited merch

>>56956891
Yea, someone pointed it out earlier, but
>Tiktok
bleh. However, what works, works.

>>56956911

>>56956748
Like Mori and Kroii, sex models but shit personality.

>>56956891
this was posted and discussed before in this very thread

>>56956891
Yeah, that sounds a hell of a lot like "Holostars was designed to gather female fans. We failed, so I hope females will like our future girls instead."