/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

LET'S GO SEASTERS
MORE CREDIT CARDS

bots

The Danmachi gacha is sponsoring Holo again
https://twitter.com/danmachidanchro/status/1694974218054844558?s=46&t=IQ79cksnUeCTRZ7I8SmoqQ

ABSOLUTE
LUXIEM
DOMINATION

Yagoo hates holostars.

>>56940067
>2nd place
>Belo jogo

>>56940037
Recent clip numbers
>>56931084
>>56931124
>>56931164
>>56931198
>>56931228

>>56940063
?? the anime franchise? is that a game

>botxiem

So much money and sponsors

>Mysta - 46k
>Pekora - sub-20k
What went wrong?

* YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY *
>56,848: Toya (Nijisanji)
>37,129: Shiina (Nijisanji)
>35,162: Pekora (Hololive)
>28,865: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>27,871: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>26,487: Okayu (Hololive)
>25,664: Luca (Nijisanji)
>25,528: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>22,050: Korone (Hololive)
>21,768: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>20,083: Koyori (Hololive)
>19,370: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>16,171: Lize (Nijisanji)
>15,917: Hololive (Hololive)
>15,446: Nene (Hololive)
>14,247: Lamy (Hololive)
>14,179: Patra (Indie)
>13,763: GatchmanV (Indie)
>13,592: Lamy (Hololive)
>13,190: Roco (Nijisanji)
>13,090: Flare (Hololive)
>12,715: Ange (Nijisanji)
>12,598: Koyori (Hololive)
>12,367: Bijou (Hololive)
>11,305: Kou (Nijisanji)
>11,010: Shiori (Hololive)
>10,686: Axel (Holostars)
>10,326: Kronii (Hololive)
>10,322: Iroha (Hololive)

>>56940080
Homobeggars from a whole other planet with these takes, could you imagine what the stars would get if they were actually treated according to their ability and popularity?

>>56940067
ABSOLUTE
KEKXIEM
BOTTING

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfpbPuGvHUo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfpbPuGvHUo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfpbPuGvHUo

>>56939848
Do these fuckers think Cover and Hololive was an instant hit or something?

how do I watch that premium shit without paying?

>>56940080
Looking through it, this retard is shocked that Nijisanji releases waves of chuubas so quickly and when someone told him this is how Nijisanji has always conducted business, he did a nuh uh you're wrong. This is a very special individual and one of those seething indies who simply hates corpotubers.

>>56940116
sisters...

>>56939851
come on dude Chloe has clearly shown that she doesn't care about being unicorn friendly relative to IRyS

>>56940080
Remember when Uproar got 3D in 6 months and ID2, IRyS and Council were left to rot for around a year after that?

>>56940128
Kuzuha 11k…sis your king…

>>56940136
>AUGUST 2023 GOLDS
1) Miko (Hololive) - 148,555 - Anniversary 3D Live
2) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 53,484 - Radio Program
3) Yashiro (Nijisanji) - 57,320 - Koshien Practice
4) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 51,111 - Koshien Practice
5) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 81,637 - Nijifes Announcement
6) Pekora (Hololive) - 104,044 - Mario Party (w/ Marine, Kanata, Koyori)
7) Flare (Hololive) - 55,591 - Anniversary Totsumachi
8) Noel (Hololive) - 91,382 - Anniversary 3D Live
9) Rikiichi (Nijisanji) - 39,244 - Koshien Siren Competition
10) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 94,194 - Koshien Pre-Tournament Stream
11) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 206,963 - Koshien A League
12) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 215,338 - Koshien B League
13) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 254,415 - Koshien Finals
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 66,070 - Fate/Grand Order
15) Aqua (Hololive) - 124,725 - Anniversary 3D Live
16) Pekora (Hololive) - 42,994 - Only Up
17) Shion (Hololive) - 95,618 - Anniversary 3D Live
18) Maimoto (Nijisanji) - 180,341 - Graduation Bait
19) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 134,582 - Koshien Highlights
20) Mio (Hololive) - 70,279 - Birthday 3D Live
21) Tsukasa Tenkai (Indie) - 47,437 - Mahjong League
22) Suisei (Hololive) - 36,637 - Summer Bingo
23) Pekora (Hololive) - 88,387 - Offcollab (w/ Marine, Aqua, Suisei)
24) Toya (Nijisanji) - 56,848 - Outfit Reveal

>PER COMPANY
12x: Nijisanji
11x: Hololive
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
6x: Nijisanji
4x: Pekora
1x: Aqua, Flare, Fuwa, Ibrahim, Maimoto, Miko, Mio, Noel, Rikiichi, Shion, Suisei, Toya, Tsukasa, Yashiro

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
160x: Hololive
59x: Nijisanji
8x: Indie
5x: VSPO
4x: Neo Porte

>PER STREAMER
55x: Pekora
20x: Miko
16x: Marine
9x: Nijisanji
8x: Subaru, Toya
6x: Kuzuha, Suisei
5x: Aqua, Yashiro
4x: Hal, Hololive, Mio, Shiina, Towa
3x: Chiroru, Fuwa, Iroha, Leos, Okayu, Koyori
2x: Aki, Flare, Fubuki, Hinano, Ibrahim, Korone, Lamy, Lui, Maimoto, Nerumero, Salome, Shion, Tsukasa, Watame
1x: Air, Ayame, Beni, Chloe, Choco, Fuwamoco, Gaku, Gura, Gundou, Hibari, Himawari, Ina, Kaede, Kanata, Kanato, Kiara, Laplus, Lize, Mel, Mito, Mori, Noel, Nose, Nozomi, Nui, Polka, Ponto, Qpi, Rikiichi, Roco, Ryushen, Ui

>>56940161
free trial then immediately cancel

>>56939455
Besides outfits, Myth got the short end of the stick for at least 1.5 years, yet these homos that are barely 1 year old, had company subsidized covers, merch on debut, youtube ads, express 2.0 models, yet they are still bitching.

>>56940108
Yeah a mobile game, they sponsored Hololive before when the game was first launching

>>56940153
Nah, there’s a ton of retards who think the problem Stars has as a whole is that Cover doesn’t promote them enough.
>>56940023
Luca is the baby brother by the way.

>>56940080
>cover doesn't treat them fairly
that's correct tranny-chan, but not in the way you are thinking the only injustice is giving them a name with HOLO- in it, putting a bunch a shitters on the edge of horizon of the blackhole that is hololive isn't it

>>56940128
one is graduating because of retarded fans

>>56940116
Clearly didn't buy enough

>>56940128
Is anyone really supposed to believe that?

>>56940080
trannies seething at cute girls >>56939541

>>56940063
maybe the nips should just stop making gacha, even the gooks are beating them at this point
just use that cash make a single player game instead of another worthless EOS gacha

>>56940216
If anything Covers wastes too many resources promoting them.

>DIPPED AGAIN
SEASTERS DEPLOY THE DEBIT CARDS

*YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN TALLY*

>8/24 DAILY TALLY
28,865: Mysta (Nijisanji)
25,689: Luca (Nijisanji)
12,367: Bijou (Hololive)
11,010: Shiori (Hololive)
10,686: Axel (Holostars)
10,326: Kronii (Hololive)
7,723: Baelz (Hololive)
7,510: Ina (Hololive)
6,696: Fauna (Hololive)
6,624: Nerissa (Hololive)
6,020: FuwaMoco (Hololive)


>EN GOLDS FOR AUGUST 2023
1) Bijou (Hololive) - 26,316 - American Truck Simulator
2) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 28,132 - FuwaMoco Morning
3) Shiori (Hololive) - 24,103 - Advent Pajama Party
4) Shiori (Hololive) - 31,094 - Unarchived Karaoke
5) Mumei (Hololive) - 36,054 - Birthday Stream
6) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 33,109 - Karaoke Stream
7) Nerissa (Hololive) - 26,823 - Monetization Karaoke
8) Gura (Hololive) - 20,176 - Night Security
9) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 18,197 - Overcooked (w/ Bijou)
10) Fauna (Hololive) - 13,792 - Pokemon Unite Tournament
11) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 16,685 - PHOGS
12) Gura (Hololive) - 20,185 - Phone Games
13) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 28,329 - Karaoke Stream
14) Mori (Hololive) - 19,674 - Offcollab (w/ Marine & Baelz)
15) Bijou (Hololive) - 15,654 - Holocure
16) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 23,148 - Japanese Stream
17) Nerissa (Hololive) - 14,106 - Powerwash Simulator (w/ Baelz)
18) Gura (Hololive) - 15,562 - Holocure
19) Ina (Hololive) - 19,894 - Fate/Grand Order Sponsor (w/ Kronii)
20) IRyS (Hololive) - 53,910 - 3D Showcase
21) Nerissa (Hololive) - 25,408 - Unarchived Karaoke
22) Bijou (Hololive) - 13,661 - Holocure
23) Baelz (Hololive) - 28,034 - CouncilRyS Offcollab Baking
24) Mysta (Nijisanji) - 28,865 - Luxiem Game Show

>PER COMPANY
23x: Hololive
1x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
6x: FuwaMoco
3x: Bijou, Gura, Nerissa
2x: Shiori
1x: Baelz, Fauna, Ina, IRyS, Mori, Mumei, Mysta

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
61p: FuwaMoco
27p: Bijou
25p: Nerissa
23p: Gura, Shiori
8p: Mumei, Mysta
7p: IRyS, Mori
6p: Kiara, Luca
5p: Baelz, Fauna, Ina

>Year ago
>Ike alone: 58k

>Year after
>Full Luxiem Karaoke: 45k with Graduation buff

What went wrong?

>>56940202
Save that for something potentially more interesting, this one was entirely boring

>in fleshstreaming
>Men are praised, women are shat on
>no one bats an eye
>In vtubing
>women are praised but get shat on if they don't collab with men
>basically babying them and treating them like toddlers that need the attention.
did i get that right?
why do homobeggars always beg and cry when holos don't want anything to do with them?
if someone blatantly comes out and says "i don't want to collab with holostars. stop asking me to do so." they will not only shit on her, but blame cover for her having that opinion.
it's fucking covers fault for always pushing and allowing this shit.

>>56940200
All those extra outfits were Cover’s way of compensating them for lack of support iirc

>>56940202
guess I'll have to make a new account every month... thanks anyway

>>56940279
now do the shark

>>56940260
OH NO NO NO

>>56940216
>Nah, there’s a ton of retards who think the problem Stars has as a whole is that Cover doesn’t promote them enough.
Yeah, but they always act like the girls didn't work to get popular in the first place. The homos have way more exposure than the girls ever had when they were first starting out.

>>56940279
Lost the Mandate of Heaven

>>56940303
rent free

>>56940193
ID1&2 with Myth waited for around 2.5 years, CouncilRys around 2 years. Uproar lol, even with the no overlap rule

What the hell happened to the usual peko MC numbers

>>56939430
I agree. I actually like both Myth and Council more than Advent. Shiori is completely incomprehensible for me, Nerissa is too abrasive towards her fans, and Bijou might be fine except that her voice gives me a headache. FWMC are the only ones that I still kind of watch, but you can’t really develop the same sort of intimate streamer/chat relationship with them as you can with solo streamers.

>>56940143
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING

>>56940271
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
176x: Hololive
56x: Nijisanji
3x: Holostars
1x: Idol

>PER STREAMER
22x: Fauna
21x: Gura, Mori
17x: IRyS, Mumei
14x: Baelz, Ina
13x: Kronii
10x: Amelia, Mysta
9x: Kiara, Vox
7x: FuwaMoco
4x: Bijou, Pomu, Selen, Shu
3x: Nerissa, Nina, Ren
2x: Alban, Finana, Hololive English, Ike, Luca, Shiori, Wilson
1x: Enna, Elira, Flayon, Fulgur, Luxiem, Millie, Petra, Regis, Roca, Rosemi, Sonny, Vesper, Bandage

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
216p: Fauna
166p: Ina
161p: Mori
150p: IRyS
141p: Mumei
126p: Baelz
114p: Gura
101p: Kronii
91p: Kiara
85p: Mysta
83p: Amelia
74p: Vox
67p: Luca
66p: FuwaMoco
37p: Shu
32p: Bijou
31p: Selen
28p: Nerissa
27p: Shiori
25p: Pomu
24p: Nina
19p: Ike
16p: Ren
15p: Enna, Fulgur
14p: Sonny, Uki
13p: Finana, Millie
11p: Axel
10p: Alban, Elira, Hololive English, Wilson
9p: Vesper
7p: Regis
6p: Rosemi, Bandage
5p: Flayon, Luxiem, Petra, Roca
4p: Magni, Bringer
3p: Bettel, Hakka, Kotoka, Poko
1p: Kyo, Maria, Meloco, Shinri, Pippa

>>56940260
I'M GONNA I'M GONNA WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORM

>Korone and Okayu playing Minecraft separately
Why?

>>56940287
Turns out a lot of beggars come from the twitch sphere where women are mostly loathed and seen as leeches. Their actions and words make a lot of sense when you look at it that way.

>>56939266
When I first heard the news I couldn’t believe it. Something that could only happen in my dream came true. I was extremely happy. Served those idiots who ruined the garden right.

Weirdly enough the feeling of being happy didn’t last long. It suddenly obvious when you asked this question. I sat down and thought for a sec. Mori is still mori. The true nature of things didn’t change. Tempus just brought out the worst of whores.

It’s a shame. Things don’t have to be like this. It was a lose lose situation for both holo and homo side. Homo doesn’t need holo to prosper. They are bad for each other. Of course I have no mercy for those who are not professional or don’t value their fans (Rushia, Sana, Vesper, Magni). As long as someone wears the Cover badge and works professionally I always wish them the best.

>>56940339
MC wasnt popular as before
>Specially it was now under the woke west

>>56940338
Don't forget about ID3. Aside from Kobo, they're probably not going to have any 3D whatsoever until next fes despite debuting at around the same time as Uproar.

>>56939848
>Lofi
I'm pretty sure he's not joking kek

>>56940288
The party outfit one yeah, because they originally thought they can announce 3D showcase around their first anniversary

>>56940348
>Bijou
she's soft spoken, low tone uwu voice. she's perfect. wtf is wrong with you.

MORE SEASTERS MORE

>>56940339
overlapping with OkaKoro

>>56940318
They don’t care. All they see is that da bois aren’t getting invited to these huge events, getting major sponsors and merch deals, getting concerts and whatnot and just complain instead of actually doing anything like watching streams.

>tranny post
>4ch best feature
>hides post
Sugoii

>smartest homobeggar
>tempus gen 2 doesnt have a their own unit name
>weakest unicorn threadreader
>THE SECOND HOMOS ARE CALLED VANGUARD

Has any clips of this been uploaded?

>>56940287
Honest answer that might make some /here/ seethe? Misogyny, plain and simple.

>>56940348
>Nerissa is too abrasive towards her fans
are you for real sis, Nerissa kiss the feet of her fans.

You need to BELO JOGO more to win gold sis

>>56940400
>ESL
>seething about the west
Hi SEA-kun. You do realize that Minecraft isn't a Japanese game to begin with, don't you?

>>56940425
Also the walfie models

>HOLOLIVE BOARD
>HOLOLIVE THREAD

>>56940287
Most them have pronouns in bio, go figure, then you have a mix of grifters who watch anti-SJWtuber who want dramas.

>>56940195
uhh botxiem's stream has more priority today, preasu andastando

>>56940421
If it wasn't a homobeggar I'd just assume they sere using the nickname, but given that they are it's 100% unironic

>>56940348
>Nerissa is too abrasive towards her fans
Yeah i know, she crushes my pelvis every night

>>56940429
she screams a lot when she hits hit and ows a lot too. i can see why it would be grating to some

The absolute state of Pakora

>>56940339
The game caters to LGBTshit now

>25k gap between Mysta and Pekora

>>56940453
I wish there was a button instead of having to click three times.

>>56940419
Yeah, ID3 like will wait till their 2nd anniversary for the announcement if we are looking at how currently Cover times their schedule

>>56940143
Kuroe kakkoii

>>56940455
nah i agree. i'd say its twitch culture but it happened way back in youtube since reply girls were a thing; which were replaced with COD players doing commentary.
it only irks me because the male fleshstreamers are as much of whores and charlatans as a female who at least worked hard to look pretty

>>56940506
plotting... >:3

>>56940563
1v5

>>56940454
Nope, none as far as i can see

>>56940486
MinuCuraftou is 100% Made in Nippon, though, just like Guguru and Appelrou, right?

>>56940318
It's not exposure. The lack of success of the homos has NOTHING to do with lack of support, budget or exposure by the company.
The Holostars were founded in 2019 and, since them, they got TONS of exposure that indies and small corpos could only ever dream
>3D concerts
>live concerts
>billboards and advertisement in big urban areas
>their own expo
>songs, MVs and 3D streams
Even implying their lack of success could come from lack of exposure is dumb. it's definitely not that.

Their lack of success come from a simple fact
>the loving and creative audience that pushed Hololive to the top does it out of true passion for the girls
You can't buy true passion, or compel it or manufacture it or fake it.
If it was a matter of budget or exposure VERSEn would be the biggest vtuber branch in the industry right now.

It's not about exposure, it's about captivating an audience and inspiring passion and the Holostars can't do that
>because they're not as relatable as a gang of cute anime girls trying to make their dreams come true

Running out of cash sis??

>PLATEAUING
SEASTERS COME ON

>>56940279
the numbers weren't real in the first place. thank the kpop sisters for that.

>>56940576
Like a triple click to hide the post. Yeah that would be awesome

>>56940547
grrrr

>>56940559
I warned you about Microsoft, bro. Have fun with their future publisher acquisitions.

>>56940338
Myth's waiting time for their 3D debut is actually shorter than Council's.

>>56940303
35k last year. 35k this year. Now clean your neo-vagina.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBUxxx-V1Lk
I think it was Kaela the one that fixed Kronii and not the Council sex

Another sub 30k stream, even minecrap can't save Pekora anymore...

so was advent a success?

>>56940303
>year ago
~30k
>now
~30k

wow amazing

>>56940658
Yeah I'd say so

>>56940633
proof?

Guy, Bae won 1 MILLION yen, when will niji win anything?

My cute wife just tweeted

>>56940455
Nah it's pretty obvious, nobody here will seethe. Go and tell them that they're being mysoginist and watch the mental gymnastics. There would be steam coming from their ears as their brain tries to wrap around the idea.

>>56940255
it gets better when you learn that China's shitting out tons of gacha games that blatantly uses AI art.

Why in the world does Pekora only have 20K on Minecraft? This is blatant culling. Go all out youtube faggots. Cull her to 0. Stop being so shy

>>56940706
selen won Riku-Curry!

>>56940706
Curry packs. Mysta gets a 24-pack box as a farewell present.

>>56940706
riku curry for you, take it or graduate

>>56940563
bot v bot-free

>>56940707
fauna is presenting herself to be mated

Faufau!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p7XP7XAyco
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3UiN2rsqpI

>>56940579
There's like a 6 month gap between Council's 3D showcase and holofes, they shouldn't have to wait that long.

>>56940642
Damn Kaela is actually winning, Kronii was her Oshi when she first joined right?

aaaaaaa can't wait

>>56940348
Most retarded post itt

so IRyS has the most rabid unicorns in EN, what about JP? Kanata?

Miko should play typing of the dead

>>56940706
To be fair, Selen did literally just win more money than that.
Bae got about $6.5k, Selen just won $10k in a tournament.
But like. Not from Niji lmao

>>56940639
No it's not. Myth got their 3d debut in febuary this year, so 2 years and 6 month. Council got their 3d debut announced already so that's 2 years only.

>>56940658
Just getting Biboo in holoen was a success, everything else is just extra

>>56940080
Holostars have been treated better than Hololive for the past year ever since Uproar's debut.

>>56940819
it's 10k split 5-ways no?

>>56940819
>$10k/5
FTFY.

>>56940808
IRyS does not have unicorns. For the love of god. She had a fucking nintendo notification yab with her rigger. If anyone cared about males they would've dropped her then.

>>56940711
All of seethe on Kiara clips expose beggars enough, now people see who are the real incels and mysogynists.

>>56940808
there is no way to know who has the most rabid unicorns without literally all of them collabing with males

>>56940639
If you count Holofes appearance then yeah. And Mori is the first one doing a full studio 3D birthday before her showcase, which still leaves me question why that wasn’t her actual 3D showcase stream, UMG?

>>56940751
are they doing everything on separate days or something

>>56940819
And without effort lmao

Holosummer peaked at the miComet part. It's miComet gold today.

>>56940641
>>56940669
>memory holing this
Chumsis...

>>56940850
>>56940859
Ah, but the question was
>when will they WIN anything
not
>when will they RECEIVE anything
So I'm TECHNICALLY correct

AIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE SISTERS WHERE ARE YOU, SHOW ME THOSE PRE YAB 2022 BIG LUXIEM NUMBERS, MYSTA IS EVEN GRADUATING YOU WILL NEVER SEE HIM AGAIN

>>56940706
Anon, Riku's famous instant curry is worth much more than a pitiful 1M yen.

>>56940866
I wanna make a picture compiling all the support Holostars got. What should I add in it?

>>56940808
>>so IRyS has the most rabid unicorns in EN
>only got two troll SCs
>all of her paypigs were superchatting like normal
bizarroworldanon, how does you toilet water rotate when you flush?

>>56940755
Studio backlog has been a problem for years, doesn’t help they were heavily prioritizing making the homo models in 2022.
>HURRY UP, UPROAR NEEDS THEIR MODELS SO THEY CAN DEBUT IN HOMOGRA!
And then it got cancelled.

>>56940897
them scissoring in front of the camera was great....

>>56940788

>>56940905
Question was "Year ago," not "Three Years Ago," sis

>>56940788
>WHY ISN'T SHE SAD! TWO OF OUR BOYS GRADUATED AND SHES HAPPY
>I gotta spam her in chat as a grey and then hate her when she addresses it /doesnt address it and anti her so much
>Did I mention that i never even watched the girls? especially Fauna because I feel insecure about many men liking her but not my boys

Mori is starting soon. Will we have answers?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwENDeUFtpQ

>>56940897
i choose to believe this

>>56940080
>holostars gets access to everything holos have worked hard to build i.e. 3d studio etc
>they arent treated fairly
Yeah I agree that they arent treated fairly because if it was fair they should carry their own weight and hire their own 3d studio, get their own mamas since most want to get in covers good graces due to hololive not the fucking homos etc

>>56940864
we dont talk about the incident

>>56940706
GET OUT OF JAIL FREE CARD

Haha what is this sister?

>>56940905
gomen illiterate-chan

>>56940866
fuck i forget uyu,i'm trying to remember holostar after this anon post this>>56940456

>>56940707
How does this work? The space between those bars is too narrow.

>>56940706
How much is this in a real currency

>>56940897
Based

>>56940888
Bae's is also today but she's gonna raid baby past Fauna while Fauna's gonna get overlapped by Bijou holocure

>>56940864
>Yab
>Calling that a yab
Holy fuck you are one terminally online mother fucker. Go get a life if you’re calling that a fucking yab of all things

>>56940455
it's been clear since the beginning, the oboretai wall of text where he was almost dumbfounded that the girls weren't ready to torch down their communities/careers to boost a bunch of shitters

>>56940642
COMPLETE ELA DOMINATION (of Kronii)

>>56940808
Retard

>>56940623
The reason holostars failed
>Their content pretty much similar to hololive but worse
>No unity and teamwork
>No vision/goal
>Need the girls to boost numbers with collab thus anger the girl gachikois.
>Male vtuber image as a brotuber was dead since luxiem debut, so no straight men want to watch gay shit.

>>56940949
did you see the state of /vt/ bro?
her main paypig was literally doomxeeting

>>56940864
Ok wise guy then why don't you come up with a term for people that don't give a shit about male riggers or sound engineers but do care about male collabs. Go on if you're so smart come up with a term we can use for these people

>>56940905
>ancient history
completely irrelevant now. could the shark beat mysta's 50k these days? no.

>>56940751
>>56940788
flop

>>56940960
The irony of beggars, that they are the real MRA chud incels.

>not even the guy's "friends" are saying a single word about the graduation
>everyone is happy and celebrating

>>56940455
Why would we seethe? Its commonly stated here that they are

>>56940879
I mean, Gura’s members dog piling people who brings up homos can count as rabid I think? Though I think it only happens once or twice during the height of homo collab arc

>>56940972
The indian bot central fell, but they still have their Jakarta offices and the PagPag HQ.

>>56940820
The original reply was talking about how long they have to wait to get their 3D model

>>56941012
They should have just hired dudes that want to make music and got the skills to do so. How many homos are there on the JP side? Like 15? That is a fucking army that can crank out shit left and right

>>56941021
Did the bot just died sister?

MORI ON THE TELLY
WILL SHE SAY SOMETHING ABOUT HER DP BUDDIES

>>56941021
>acting like that 50K is actual viewers and not bots
why are you like this?

youtube shot the bot is down

>>56941021
sisters... the homos just ate one yesterday do you really want to do this....

>>56941036
I feel more sorry for Pako that actually put in some work for the new model before the two fucktards left

>>56940972
PFFF HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHAAHHAHAHAHAH

what lovely parting gift from mysta kek

>>56940761
yes, she also used to gush about Kronii on her early streams

>>56940373
Only corporate units are allowed now and they forgot to send in the forms.

>>56940944
>the billboards for Uproar
>the development of HoloGra for the boys
>their 3D debuts and concerts
>the gap in time between Tempus 1 and Tempus 2 compared to the gap between Council and Advent, and the waiting period that's still going for JP6/JP7 and ID3/ID4
>the billing they got for New Year's despite being nowhere near as popular
>HLZNTL
>the "Twitch Takeover" event
>their section in HoloFes
Off the top of my head

>mikochi’ japanese is bottom 5 even outside of JP branch.
>everyone parrots this meme like a gangster until migo plays kanji go

Can anyone outside JP beat Migo in a kanji quiz? I bet even Yagoo’s daughter The Yamato Princess couldn’t do it

>>56940972
They wont be able to answer it. They dont even thread read lmao.

>>56940972
FARM DOWN
SEASTERS IM NOT GIVING YOU PART OF MY LUNCH MONEY FOR THIS ASS SERVICE

SEASTERS NOT ENOUGH

fricking 11000 yen for the streaming ticket? frick that

>>56940972
AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEE ONE LAST PUSH FOR THE BEAUTIFUL GAME CAM OOOONNNNNNNNN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3UiN2rsqpI
Fau fau neesan

>>56940867
It’s funny to me cause vtubing is like the only area where it’s acceptable to have that opinion.
In literally any other job you’d be labeled a creep for saying shit like that. Imagine telling your female coworker that she needs to interact and talk to some guy she doesn’t give two shits about because you want it.

>>56941166
won't beat mysta

>>56941067
Nah it happens whenever greys try to bring up the boys, beggars just learned that Gura is a NG so it doesn't happen anymore

>>56941128
Luna is pretty good at kanji

SIUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

Keeek did her mod just deleted homobeggar SC?

>>56941121
stars exclusive holoexpo stream, with the static wide angle camera having more ccv than the tour itself

>>56940972
It keeps going down, Z or not enough money for extended bots?

>>56941107
Is this unarchived?

>>56941139
sisters if you don't get gold you wasted your Belo jogo

>>56941091
AIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE TASUKETE SUSAN

>>56941121
How could you forget the uproar limo

>>56941016
>the state of /vt/ bro?
I cannot imagine trusting the catalog for my opinions, even /#/ is a better source than that, and it's only barely better

>>56941016
I am starting to think you people actually believe that rrat

>Peko MC sub 20k
How the mighty has fallen

>>56940951
So, when’s Tempus’s 3D, also weird to think that the two graduate one is the only one getting 2.0 and redesign while the blue one and the orange one gets nothing, Yagoo wasted money for nothing in return

>Oh wow guys that was a great 24 hours of talking about Vesper and Magni, what should we do now?
>Talk about Mysta!
Can you fags get cock out of your mouth yet? Holy fuck where are the cunny posters when we need them

>ATTENTION! WAWA SHORT
seethe at /shorts/ for all I care.
https://youtube.com/shorts/N1dSk5P4dyY?si=-ywD2kJd_Jg4X65F
https://youtube.com/shorts/N1dSk5P4dyY?si=-ywD2kJd_Jg4X65F

>Mysta 52k
>IRyS 13k
Almost a 40k difference. Embarrassing show from holoEN.

>>56941099
Thanks watamage

>>56941264
hey she's good yesterday, I'll watch

>>56941191
mysta without bots is just 16k with graduation buff and 4 luxiem
might give him a run for it

>>56940951
Reminder that there were actually a subscriber threshold on becoming 3d back in the day

>>56940658
It's not a sankisei (impossible given Gura nevermind myth's early dominance), but if these are the numbers post debut buff and under overlap, then that's pretty respectable
They've at least doubled the pre-advent mean aggregate ccv from ~15k to at least 30k
Hopefully even without the MC arc buff that was available to council they'll at least retain these numbers

>>56941217
CAM ON SEASTERS
ONE LAST BOTS

>>56941264
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/N1dSk5P4dyY?feature=share

>>56941036
Ame
>I was initially thinking of playing that phone game that Kiara, Gura and Ina played but I felt like doing karaoke instead!
>second song she sings is called sell out

>>56941235
The fucking WHAT

did peko become boring in MC, those are some debuff numbers, or those one time male mccollab finally caught up to her, and causes mc viewers leave her

SEASTERS MORE CASH TO GAS

True Number without bot is 27 k.

quick ask mori the ''question''

AIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE

The shitdogs don't stand a chance against mysta today.

Why is Pekora building that? Didn't the old server already have that exact same YAGOO pixel art? It looked better too.

>>56941247
>has fallen
more like has been killed by envious youtube troons and roasties

>>56941264

>>56940951
IRyS only had to wait 5 months after holofes to showcase her 3D model, if Kobo already got her 3D model by at least October then she should be able to debut it in February like Myth, then again Cover's autism might delay it until holofes.

>>56941274
52/5 = 10k, IRyS 13k and won

>>56941303
well fuck off neal even the copy url from the gui give this shit now

>>56941274
>Full Luxiem funeral karaoke: 48k
Can't even beat IRyS 3D, RUMAO

>Bijou has 0 respect for her senpai and will overlap her anniversary stream despite already having a Collab hours after
Yikes

>>56941295
>they'll at least retain these numbers
thats some wishful thinking lol, you know they'll be all be 5-6k chuubas soon

>>56941309
What could she mean by this

>>56941319
shes building a giant yagoo and people are mad at him

>strongest Cumxiem graduating couldn't even beat a shitter like Sana
KEK

>>56941338
That's a more reasonable number

>>56941348
Bro what the fuck are you talking about
It's fucking blocks

>>56940339
Been telling you dingdongs got a while that MC reclined

Mori sounds legit happy as hell, you can hear the smile in her voice

>Full Luxiem karaoke on the same day as Splash Party
>Mysta graduation part 1 on the same day as Splash Party
>Mysta graduation part 2 on the same day as Splash Party
Is he not going to get gold on any of them?

pekotyan...

>>56941217
BELO JOGOOOOO

>>56941338
you dont know that
there is more likely more than just one bot network employed on this stream
i would assume 17k

>>56941383
>respecting someone who doesn't even respect her fans
Bijou is based, fuck off

Full recap
>sisters shitting and blatantly challenging /#/
>admits to BELO JOGO botting
>Bots and taunt starts at the same timeline
>Daddy credit card maxxed out and still not even a GOLD
>You are here
HAHAHAHAHAAHA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mzc18OB1cek
DN going to watch IRyS clarifying about Overwatch collab. It is going to get spicy

>>56941200
Funny that what I know there are chumbuds that actually watch Tempus, not surprise consider her fanbase size but they never brought up homos in front of her

>>56941264
Why did she do it bros?

>>56940972
>>56941217
SISTERS NOOOOOOOOOO

>>56941309
Only thing sure about Ame is that she is "company man" 'till the end.

MYSTA 50K DORRRRYAAAAA

>Mori changed the song for the transformation intro
Lmao

>>56941295
Debut buff isn't over yet. Their numbers will keep dropping. They haven't stabilized yet.

Why can't HoloGods let a dying niji win once before he dies?

>>56941435
holy cull

>>56941423
>fucking block
how fucking new faggot?
blocks is ultra buff for holo
50K minimum the real number on her stream

>>56941399
This is just the pre-pre-show to his actual graduation. Day 2 of the graduation stream itself will easily break 100k.

>>56940037
pedo.

>>56941433
So it was the carrot... arigatou A-chan...

>>56941434
Is splash party another 200k ccv kino?

SEASTERS MORE MORE MORE

>>56941488
based if true. It would be especially based if she did a fan contest for a new one.

>>56941435
giga cull
fuck you youtube sisters

>>56941502
The guy that's been seething in this thread about Minecraft "going woke" or some shit, I assumed that's what the dude was talking about

>>56941128
It improves her jp win win

Luxiem once again proving their status as a true vtubing powerhouse.

>>56941488
BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASED

>>56936929
Mumei got close to the highest SCs during valentines and fes and she sells the most most merch aside from the reddit shork

>>56941504
KEEEK

>>56941504
>Day 2 of the graduation stream itself will easily break 100k.
will be pretty GRIM if it doesn't

>Pekwhora sub 20k Minecraft
Okay this is getting sad. Expect management to start hard shilling her even more now.

>>56941391
FuwaMoco and Bijou can retain more than that if they keep the game selection fresh.
They're 8-10k floor easy.

>>56941547
the dogs contest is 10 seconds, mori jingle was 15, would be a nice comeuppance for that faggot

>>56941264
RISU NOOOOOO

>>56941546
not sure, is splash party half paywaled?

>>56941488
LMAO

>>56940658
Management screwed Advent. They really should've put a cap on the other members streams and let them have a week of runway free of overlap hell. Their first week was fucking ridiculous given how dead EN has been for months, all for everyone to come back to cash in on there hype.

>>56941571
you hoomans should sc during regular streams too. your wife is literally dying off starvation whenever she doesn't have events or merch

>>56941499
>>56941550

>>56941435
>that graph
>11K waiting room
>22K peak
these faggots started culling pekora just as much as they cull EN
fucking shameless!!!!!

>>56941488
BASED MORI FUCK THE BEGGARS

>>56941264
RIPPPPPP
KIARA, You monster

>>56941603
>8-10k floor
LOL

>Peko MC reclined
>Miko GTA Karaoke reclined
well at least Miko still has SC6 specialty

>>56941500
because its homos also luxiem, group that responsible for damaging EN vtubing also flood of chinksisters
if its a girl i will give her some slack

>>56941571
Sasuga HER2.0

>>56941435
Nousagis? You promised us 56k minecra what happened?

GET THAT GOLD SEASTERS

>>56941667
KILL YOURSELF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
KARMA WIL GET YOU NIGGERSISTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WATCH!!!!!!

>>56940253
>Seething
This tweet caused more seething from troons than any holo ever did
https://twitter.com/bang_dream_gbp/status/1684765621332893696
That shit aint nothing

>>56941488
I...kneel, mori
Never thought i would kneel to mori

>>56941036
Vesper probably only considered Magni as his friend and likely chose to graduated when Magni told him he was graduating due to not getting a better contract.

Not sure who else Magni was close with, Flayon?

>>56941668
>cull cope

>>56941547
that would be too based for her

C'MON SEASTERS
GET THAT GOOOOOLD

>>56941264
>Baldur's Gate 3 plays like D&D
Damn, so that's what all the hype was about.

>>56941636
More streams means more eyes, stop trying to paint it as a bad thing.

>>56941488
>it's real
Jesas that dumb freelancer ruined himself for some likes.

>>56941435
When will cover sue youtube?!!! Meek faggot yagoo... If i was the ceo i would sue them into oblivion

>Mori dropped the intro BGM made by the dickhead that was shit talking FWMC
Apologize

>>56941430
nobody gives a fuck about the event except for Miko's haunted house, same as last year
numbers were fucking grim before her saving it

>>56941488
I feel kind of sorry for the retard. Is this empathy I feel? I don't like it.

Timesmith 3K. Happy dorky girls.

>>56941636
It was ridiculous how all the other ENs decided to overlap the newcomers during their most important week. They were afraid they would lose their more casual viewers to them
Look at Gura, she comes back for 2-3 weeks and now she fucks off again once the debut buff expired

>>56941488
i respect her now

>>56940808
IRyS's unicorns are the only unicorn who will sperg out over a collab with women

>holoEN karaoke 6-10k
>nijiEN karaoke 50k

Miko ending. Funnel to Pekora soon

>all this seething over Luxiem's stream

>>56941434
Splash Party is pay per view event instead of free so he might.

>>56941817
Good move for once

>>56941757
Say what you will about her, but the girl does try and stay loyal to people she likes. It's both the cause of her being based, and the cause of her being immensely cringe, depending on who she's feeling loyal to at that moment.

>>56941295
I personally use 2~3 months as debut honeymoon consider how many first time buff they can generate through solo or collab stream, it’s too early to tell but I would love these viewers stay as long as possible or even spread to the old gens

>>56941435
why is it dropping like that at the beginnig and then stuttering like some old man walking upstairs?

>>56941817
deadbeat while you are here tell me, why did she have to delay the stream? just for the song?

peko needs to see what she change in june. That's where her MC starts to recline, did she drop her peko tic in that month?

Just let them samefag themselves to death. It's pretty funny watching their dispair

>>56941488
Joshua...

>>56941800
Yes, more eyes watching OTHER streams

AT LEAST GET 50K SEASTERS

>>56941820
The incline part is on miko's haunted house?

>>56941817
Speaking of mori has she said why she pushed back the stream

>>56940287
>Cover
>Pushing for it
Go back to school burger flipper
Cover is not pushing shit for HoloxHomo
It started with some jp collabing with them AT THEIR OWN WILL

So that niji flappy bird clone was actually released for mobile? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.OKKProduction.Nijiatsume

And it looks like it has ads based on the google play page. Is that allowed by niji?

>>56941121
Does anyone have proof of the Tempus song being used as an ad?

>MagVes fired
>Mori : I'm winning
What did she mean by this?

>>56941639
>hololive fes and holo*27
>outfit merch
>hololive EN concert
>birthday merch
>hololive summer
>3D showcase
anon she has more than enough to consider buying a car

Okayu mentioned something that I hadn't thought about.
>After 5 years in holo, I'm starting to run short of ideas for merch
>Thanks her chat for telling her things they want

>replaced the guitar riff already
>not even mentioning the Homo graduation

>>56941874
probably picked up a large EN audience.

>>56941817
I won't apologize since I never doubted that she sticks for her friends.
Like when she sticked for Connor.

>>56941768
I TOLD YOU TO KILL YOURSELF NIGGERSISTER!!!

>>56941886
retard

>>56941875
not a deadbeat but someone posted a while ago, it was because she couldn't stream before the holo summer event

>>56941889
Yes, as people moved from POV to POV.

>>56941889
yep

>>56941930
Her Pubic hair would be a good merch

>>56941930
I mean, even Suisei asked about what kind of merch people would like on Twitter.

I- i thought jkt48v supposed to be on par with holoID. I thought theyre gonna destroy holoID and claim the throne.. Oh how wrong i was

Do Lewd ASMRtubers usually do good numbers live? Because the one I'm listening to is hitting nearly 2.5k on Youtube, which I think is good?

>>56941875
Nah, management mandated clearing of all streams before the Hololive summer stream.

>>56941820
THE HEART OF HOLOLIVE

>All these Micra streams
It's going to be a grim morning for the dogs

>>56941971
>it was because she couldn't stream before the holo summer event
makes sense, thanks deadbeat

>>56941946
well if that were true we woiuld see a bigger number than 20K
where is that larger audience? where is her usual audience??

This Fauna's recent Graveyard Planet stream is hilarious

>>56941909
Report it to Anycolor and find out

>Shinomiya Runa
338k subs, part of the third largest org

>Sakuma Riru
29.9k subs (5x where it was a few weeks ago)

What happened? How do we save Runa?

>>56941930
>fter 5 years in holo, I'm starting to run short of ideas for
Has she ever done a daki yet? What about an art book by her mama?

>>56941970
retard

>>56941974
>>56941975
Ah ok

Youtube is just guruguruing because they implemented the new UI

>>56941909
https://youtu.be/kj_vNy_u0Co
Will this beat holocure?

>>56941295
I feel like people are trying too hard to not call advent a success by referencing things from years ago but being unwilling to acknowledge that the very things being mentioned years back were overwhelmingly favorable to them, meaning Advent’s accomplishments so far are even MORE impressive than anything.

For instance, council is the clear comparison people use but then neglect to mention that:
1. EN was the biggest it ever was in vtubing (excluding the lolcovidlockdown boom)
2. Council came after the biggest graduation ever, giving fans a fresh start from a painful moment
3. There was less overlap, meaning more time for fans to specifically tune in to them and only them
4. Youtube didn’t obliterate hololive with shitty algorithm changes that would push 1view channels instead of holos
5. Clippers were unironically as big as holo channels themselves and would get 100-300k views a fucking clip, again, before algo changes destroyed them as well
6. CCVID didn’t exist and wouldn’t come until months later, meaning any potentially existing fuckups on youtube’s end that might exist in today’s day did not exist yet then

Not even to mention how council was basically the successor to myth who at the time had 2 of the top 4 vtubers in the world and were hitting record breaking numbers for music, council had basically EVERY possible avenue to success. Compare that to advent who debuted 2 years of practically nothing, with people now hating vtubers and seeing them as cringe, with the fad dying out in the west and being the gen that tries to give life back to a dying branch, I’d say they’re doing WAY better than anyone could ever wish for right now

>>56941820
>numbers were fucking grim
That's because of one gazillion POVs.

Nousanji getting mindbroken over her low numbers

>>56942025
qrd? how was the debuts?

>>56942114
tldr

>>56942025
Worthless market is worthless

>>56942025
converts (and on jkt's case, wanting a piece of what holoID is having) will always be DOA

>>56942075
>youtube implementing a new UI
>pekora getting lower numbers
everytime

>>56942114
tldr adventrix cope

>>56942029
yes, the girl that anon shills sometimes can get 10k on her ear licking ASMR streams and she is a low 3 view on normal streams

>>56942094
Oh no no no holocure bros our response

>>56942029
who? The few I have seen live are usually between 500 and 1k

>>56942061
Sakuma Riru is boosted by her interaction with Fanta who is now a 20k GTA streamer (was a 2 digits shitter at the start of this year before the RUST server, kek)

>>56942134
>nousagi getting mad that niggersisters are sabotaging their oshi
ftfy*

>>56942167
advent is doing amazing despite all that, seethe

>>56941877
It's not just peko, MC as a whole has reclined. Holotoddlers finally realized how fucking boring MC is

>>56941934
BASED BASED BASED

>>56942064
https://shop.geekjack.net/products/nekomata-okayu-new-costume-commemorative-2021-hug-me-hard-please-nekomata-okayu-body-pillow-cover

Such a bliss of joy to see the OG redditors cameback to dunking on homobeggars and their virtual signaling.

>>56941909
official product disguised as fan-made out of shame

>>56941827
He should've been roasted by Mori for attacking her kouhais

>>56941934
He really did it

>>56941820
ah can't wait for THE BOX IS EVIL spam

The heart
The soul
The ambassador
The protagonist
of hololive.

>absolutely no funnel for anyone as Miko moves to SC reading
What audience is that?

>>56940658
>so was advent a success?
1) Are they homo resistant? Too early to conclude
2) Are they yab resistant? Too early to conclude
3) What are their post honeymoon numbers? Too early to conclude
4) Are they hard workers? Too early to conclude

However, they increased the box views. Two homos were killed shortly after the Advent. They brought a lot of positive vibes to EN branch. Before the debut 95% anons didn’t expect all the new girls would ignored homos.

Pekora will still become the most popular streamer of 2023 year of the rabbit baby!! troons seething!!!

>>56942134
Your pink whore gonna absent for 5 days for number again

>>56941875
Mori was on a unannounced vacation so communication kind of broke down. Why not stream up to the show started though?
I watched Bae’s watchalong and she had a 5 hour rehearsal (for a watchalong?) for the quiz show, so likely they were tech testing their app to rig all of the models involved or something in that nature I think.

>>56942259
link it anon, i wanna see the shift of status quo back to pre-tempus era with my own eyes

>>56942114
>4. Youtube didn’t obliterate hololive with shitty algorithm changes that would push 1view channels instead of holos
this one is false, Council was hit the hardest in all of holo with multiple -100k subs cullings and ccvid was already in effect in EN as a whole

>>56942114
>Compare that to advent who debuted 2 years of practically nothing, with people now hating vtubers and seeing them as cringe, with the fad dying out in the west
I was listening to you until you threw this bitch of a quote out, nah, that's absolutely not how it's going. You saw the usual normalfag "ugh, anime/vtubers, cringe" shit and Vtubing settling down from the peak COVID period into a more reliable rhythm and assumed shit was dying.
At worst, shit like Tempus focus and Algo changes were clogging the tourist pipelines that were usually big before, and Advent flushed them back open again.

Bros... is Mori, really changed?
Can I trust her now?

They should retire Minecraft and change it to RUST as their main sandbox game

https://youtu.be/5qHw18Znl58?t=148
> Well the graduation was with mutual agreement, between Cover and them.
> The path Cover wanted to go and the path those two wanted to go were... y'know?
> This was a decision made after they talked it out with both sides.
> And it's obvious that everyone would feel sad and lonely.
> And for the two of them, I hope they can move forward along a path where they can feel like this was the right decision.
> There's half of me that wants them to think "I made the correct decision".
> And there's another half of me...
> There's another half that wants Holostars to become so big and lively, that they would eventually think "Oh man, I wish I had stayed in Holostars at that time.".
> I just think that, if they think "Man I'm glad I graduated from Holostars at that time.", then Holostars is no good y'know.
https://youtu.be/5qHw18Znl58?t=256
> As for me, I just want them to eventually go "Damn, I wish I hadn't chosen this path" and have them be just a little bit annoyed *laughs*.
> *continues rambling about how he's fine with any of the graduated members returning at any time, e.g. Kira-kun. Although he doesn't know what the company thinks.*
> I wanted to see it... Tempus 3D with all 4 of them... I wanted to see Kira's 3D as well...
> Who knows... maybe if I keep working hard enough, eventually maybe that dream can come true... dunno...
> Well "let's work hard" is all I can say.
> Right now, it's not good if those of us that were left behind start trembling.
> So even though my health isn't that great, I wanted to stream for a bit.
> *talks about his two announcements that he was thinking of sticking at the end*
> It's not like I want to go "please listen to this and recover yourself!".
> Just want to say that those of us left behind are still doing stuff. Just want to convery that "We're also here! We're still alive!".
Man this has got to be really frustrating for the JP stars and management... They were hoping for their own version of the HoloMyth boom, yet all they got were these pussy chasers that didn't even care about Holostars or the Stars brand...