/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Double G does as she fucking pleases.

Not really. If she cared about numbers, she be playing newer released games instead of what she chose to play.

>>56896168
enjoy your month of ghosting faggot

>>56895973
It was pretty obvious yeah

>>56895973
I do think it's bit suspect that she solo streamed more during Advent's 2 week anniversary than she did in the past 6 six months combined
But I blame that on the creation of a new gen giving her a short-lived burst of motivation and she'll now regress to back to the mean

>>56895973
she clearly hates Nerissa
probably has a good reason.
gura trust

>>56895973
I didn't believe it at first, but maybe it was true.

>>56896524
This is a massive coping way to say she hates streaming.
>regress to back to the mean
Yeah, the mean of 0 streams. Lazy fucking whore.

>>56895973
I don't hold the breaks against her, but this total silence from her after being so active is fucking heartbreaking.

>>56896453
keep making seethe threads, lol

>>56896824
>Yeah, the mean of 0 streams.
I mean that kinda what I meant yes, Gura has been dead last in hours stream since like December 2020 when Mori was still working a full time job, she's never really been a work horse outside of rare exceptions
Her "normal" was about 2-4 streams a week, it's been 6 days since her last one so we'll see how this plays out

>>56897149
I'm not the OP, but do you really enjoy this constant ghosting and unannounced week+ breaks? Because I don't. I really don't.

>>56895973
It certainly suggests she is a cold calculating little shit trying to keep her fans on board only when she perceives a risk to herself. She did this exact shit for Council too. I mean is it horrible final yab bad? No. It's just painfully transparent what her strategy is and management seems to not care how obvious it looks.

>>56897382
i'm not a gura cocksucker. there's always someone else to watch

i enjoyed Gura's Outer Wilds stream and I wish she'd play it again, but even if she doesn't, I'm okay with that too.

>>56895973
yeah she should've graduated like those homos

>>56896453
>month
Only a month? Bold claim, I raise you half a year, at least.

>>56897382
dont worry underaged chumbuddies will still worship her and flood her with memberships every time she does a stream announcing she's ""back""

>>56895973
She came back to solidify her position on the New Board of Investors.

>>56897149
i never make seethe threads. I just like laughing at chumfucks who try to cope with an oshi who clearly fucking hates her fanbase.

>>56895973
Yah

>>56895973
It's obvious, but hey I dont support her anyway so whatever.

>>56896643
Nah, Bijou was her target. Note how she tried to do super long streams like Bijou is doing.

>>56897515
>management seems to not care how obvious it looks.
If 5ch even picked up on it, maybe JP management have too, or will if the memes really take off.

>>56897700
Nah, hololive wants to keep her around as the face of 1st gen EN even if she doesn't stream at all for months on end. It's branding preservation since Gura leaving would be a huge hit towards the entire hololive EN's legacy, regardless of generation. I don't watch her streams anymore and have no animosity or anger, just learned to let go and accept the fact she maybe has a bit of resentment for her fanbase. Is what it is, my schizo RRAT is she has her IRL "rat park" (recovery terminology suggesting people with social support systems fare better in long term stability than just abstaining) and the furfillment and purpose she received from streaming is no longer as beneficial as it once was. Might even go as far to say she's become jaded and disillusioned realizing vtubing is a cheap substitute and will never be as meaningful as real relationships/friendships.

Yep, looks like Gura's still the #1 vtuber.

>>56901516
They are seething at her success even now

>>56895973
Advent succefully nerfed.

>>56895973
she didn't. she came back to remind her viewers she is still here

>>56904597
>My calm, rational analysis of why Gura stopped streaming for months only to come back to spite her kohai's is "seething".

Calm the fuck down seethe poster.

>>56895973
She was super excited because of the concert and Advent so she started streaming again. Her plan was to collab with the new girls but she burned out before she got the chance to collab with the.

>>56896824
but enough about your mother

gura exodia'ing 2 homos makes me want to resub to her desu
but she needs a bit more to convince me so Ill wait

>>56898111
keep telling yourself that
graduated to post le funny spear pictures on the internet vs still going strong btw

>>56900625
she predicted bijou likes long streams before she even did one.
holy based psych shark

>>56901010
>realizing vtubing is a cheap substitute and will never be as meaningful as real relationships/friendships
That seems unlikely.

>>56905570
This is for you anon.

>>56905969
I don't get it.

>>56895973
>>56896994
Is she actually back to going radio silence? Like I know it was talked about as a hypothetical but I honestly didn't think it would be fucking immediate. The gap between her last stream and now can't be so big to call it a radio silence right?

>>56895973
>Shows up just to shill merch for her bday
>Banned words on her stream like streaming, lazy, graduate, and so on
>Showed up just to overlap in particular Bijou and Shiori
>Now that their numbers are weakening, goes back to sleep
I mean, i'm no city detective, but i can make a deduction or two

>>56895973
ngl if i was gura id just flex my fanbase on the new blood knowing nobody could ever compete then go back to pay collection after maintaining the status quo

>>56895973
>Come back to overlap newly debuted gen
>fuck off again completely for another three months
>bleed viewers to the cunny during absence
Not a great plan. This is why I completely ignored gura's return. why care about a chuba who is only going to piss off in a few weeks, why get invested.
I invested all in on the rock instead and I'm much happier watching her zooming in a mech right now.

>>56906081
Anon I don't trust that image or its colors.
Don't look at it too long, it has a negative energy.

I don't doubt that she's kind of burnt out but I think Management tends to use her in experiments. She's basically the ultimate test and/or weapon. New Niji wave? Stream near their debuts. Advent debuts? Use her to test viewer loyalty and the size of the box.

>>56905473
How many times is this going to work though?

>>56906477
As long as chumbuds keep tuning in, duh.
The biggest problem I can see for this strat is that Bijou enroaches on the EN cunny niche

>>56905907
People are motivated to do things because they're rewarded in some fashion: money, happiness, artistic expression, deeper fulfillment of our existential purpose, social acceptence, etc.
Now that Gura probably is financially independent for life and has wide spread fame in the virtual world, what motivators are there left for her to keep streaming? Social interaction and a deeper fulfillment of the "power process" as Ted would call it (even though he'd consider vtubing a surrogate activity, most wouldn't). It no longer gives her purpose and deeper existential meaning like it used too probably because she realized IRL social relationships/friendships are much more valuable.

>overlaps Advent during debut
>Refuses to collab with the homos
>instigates their termination
>continues her long vacation

>>56895973
there was no doubt about it. she fucked off again kek

>>56906312
Hahahaha, here's another one for you too.

>>56907447
Blue and fleeting, just like someone I know. Kekw

>>56907235
"Gura didn't stream because she was busy getting Tempus destroyed" is the biggest fucking cope this shitty board has ever invented.

>>56907654
congrats on falling for the shotposting

>>56897515
Thing is, what can management do? Losing Gura is an awful look no matter what, you kind of have to placate her.
Not like it matters since she’ll disappear for weeks or months on end after a stream or 3.
But that’s why it’s good that Advent is around and actually seems to care about streaming. Others can keep HoloEN alive, especially after last year when most of the branch was MIA.

>>56895973
Gura went back to Japan for the Splash Party.
Ina also confirmed that she was also going to Japan soon.
Don’t know if the others said something because I barely see them.
Expect Gura to stream less because she prefers to stream at home and also likes to enjoy her stay in Japan.

>>56908032
This pretty much. Shork gonna Shork, I think they don't care as long as she comes around to voice something when they need her to or to shill merchandise. Gawr Gura as a brand is more powerful than Gawr Gura as a streamer.

>>56908216
We must sink japan

>>56908311
so she was in japan for the last 6 months?

>>56896454
Buff games, she chose to play buff games while overlapping as much as possible. God I swaer chumkeks are so disingenuous.

>>56895973
Trial by fire anon, if they cant survive gura overlap can you really call them a hololive vtuber?

>Exposes how mid Advent is
>Leaves

Shork is so funny.

>>56908216
Gura prefers to not stream at all. She barely even makes excuses for it anymore, she just leaves that to her fans when she ghosts them.

>Ina confirms she's going back to Japan "but only for a few days"
>Kiara says she's going to be "busy" at the end of the month

Gura is probably already there sitting on her ass, and Ame will be soon too.

>>56895973
You interpret what Gura does in the least charitable way possible. She has done nothing wrong, but you bring her up apropos of nothing to shit on her and push your rrats. You are the textbook definition of an anti. You are the reason that label exists, you've earned the label, and yet it embarrasses you to wear it. Why are you so ashamed?

>>56895973
She came back to *help* them you stupid nigger. Her presence brings more eyes on hololive, which brings more eyes on advent. what's so hard to understand? no Gura = less people caring about hololive.

>>56914919
These posts were more effective when Gura was actually streaming and they weren't forced to go "her actions are up to interpretation" when she doesn't say anything and dips exactly when everyone predicted she would.

bvtm thread

>>56915342
The question I have for you is the same one I've had all along. Why does it bother you so much? Gura streams when she feels like streaming and does not stream when she does not feel like streaming. This is very easy to understand and yet antis have a civilization-ending assblast about it all the time. You care so much and I just want to know why.

You guys are idiots. Cover wants her streaming over Advent to attract attention to the new talent. They all stream over each other, they don’t give a shit. Livestream viewers aren’t the only metric Cover cares about. They want to tap Guras celebrity to game the recommendation algorithm.

>>56897382
Kuy, you're such a loser.

>>56895973
Assuming your position is true, what's morally or ethically wrong with her actions?

So there are 3 rrats
>Gura stepped up streaming to kneecap Advent and stopped because the debut buff is over
>Gura stepped up streaming because Advent inspired her and stopped because she's no longer inspired
>Gura stepped up streaming to help Advent and stopped because they no longer need the help
I'm not ready to believe she's some malicious asshole who only cares about numbers and money, but the support rrat makes no sense. How does streaming over someone encourage more people to watch them instead of you? By that logic they should have forced all ten girls to stream over the debuts.

>>56918340
>streaming over someone
we've been through this before, it's her timeslot nigger

>>56895973
nah she came back only after she was assured that homos who tried to contact her on discord are kicked out, the next time she starts to be active expect kronii or ame to go

>>56916242
NTA but isn’t it kind of obvious she doesn’t care about her audience or fans and still has an audience of fans who don’t seem to care or acknowledge that fact? I assume whatever the fuck you guys are arguing about, whatever nonsense it is, is just a malformed derivative of that.

>>56918678
More to the point is the uncomfortable truth that all of these coping niggers keep dancing around. If someone streaming over you is all it takes for your audience to drop you and watch them instead, that audience was never yours in the first place. You were just their waiting room.

>>56918340
Gura came back from Japan and for over a month she streamed in her regular timeslot like always.
Now she went back to Japan for more 3D events and can't stream for the time being.

>>56919037
>isn’t it kind of obvious she doesn’t care about her audience or fans and still has an audience of fans who don’t seem to care or acknowledge that fact?
that's the part that makes you so angry? Not anything that Gura is actually doing, but rather grown adults making decisions about who to support and how to spend their free time?

>>56919037
If some people somehow want to take it that way and ignore all of the good side of her then there's nothing Gura can do to compromise with them on that matter. Not using Twitter isn't the greatest sin in my book.

>>56918678
I'm not even debating that, I'm talking about the people ITT who think Gura came back specifically to help Advent. Overlaps don't fucking help each other and if she was enthusiastic about helping there are many better ways to boost a new generation than playing Contraband Police.
I don't care if you think she's a gigastacey establishing the pecking order or a free spirit doing what she wants, but she's not doing them any favors and anyone who thinks she is is coping hard.

>>56895973
Honestly I'm just glad that I wasn't the only person noticing it. If we noticed it, and if 5ch also noticed it and made fun of it, then it's just pretty funny at this point. I feel like everyone had their doubts, but sure enough, she went back to not streaming for an entire week.

If she did this at any other time, nobody would pay THAT much attention to it. But she did it when Advent debuted and then fucked off again. I don't want to sit there and genuinely believe that she did this so people don't forget about her instead of everybody shuffling to Advent, but that feels transparent as fuck. I don't think it's anti behavior to look at this particular behavior/pattern and think "Hey that's a little fucking weird, isn't it?"

Whatever it may be, it's nice to discuss it instead of being a fucking gay little hugbox about it.

>>56908032
Coco and Rushia were top of the JPs. If she graduated or even got terminated then yeah there would be an outrage but things would eventually be cool. Note that hololive axed the entire CN branch before as well. So if it were up to me I would force her to do 3x streams a week or terminate her.

Old and busted gura tries to sabotage the crystal loli by trying to stream as much as her. She didn't realize that the new girl was an endurance gamer, takes better care of her health/diet, and is likely a decade younger. Gura physically breaks down again.

>>56921660
The japs finally noticed it as well?

Man, i just want her to go back to her RM and post funny gremlin antics again. Her indie stuff was a lot more fun

>>56918678
Yes because she is just absolutely incapable of streaming at any other time. Lose your seat lose your fucking slot.

>>56922137
damn how could this happen to her?

>>56911278
>Outer Wilds
>buff game
Are you for real?

Can we also agree that Gura streaming is good for HoloEN, always.

>>56913865
Unlike you we don't need to worry if our oshi will collab with cocks

>>56922059
you didn't watch her then, you don't watch her now
shut the fuck up

So will she graduate or not? Anytime now right? HAHAHAHA. You were hoping that was the case for the entirety of 2022. Now we're nearing the end of 2023, and two faggots got ""graduated"" before Gura KEK. I always wonder why you people who never watch Gura is the one mostly affected whenever she's MIA, is it because of her numbers? Most probably. Also, why chumbuds never leave her despite you pushing the narrative that she hates her fans? HAHAHA. Keep trying harder, I'll cheer you on. I do love the seethe whenever karma strikes though. Enjoy watching NotMagni and NotVesper on their alts! KEK

>>56921660
oh nyo 5ch and vt noticed it, how will Gura ever recover from this massive blow???

thanks for the money, dummy

>>56925768
Chumbuds always get the last laugh

You're all a bunch of girls. Fucking sissies. Every one of you.

>>56895973
You're not an anti you're just retarded.
>came back to ruin their numbers
Then she should keep streaming over them to do that rather than a little two weeks. What's the point of streaming over them to then disappear again? It's not like people can't check Advent anymore. Specially considering how much people is enjoying them.
>even if she did
Chumbuds only watch Gura. If she had any fans wavering, they'd be already gone 1 year ago, considering her pauses.

In the end: you're retarded.

>>56926148
I like girls, does that makes me a lesbian?
GUYS I'M IN

>>56906285
If that was her intention then it didn't really work seeing as she didn't beat the new girls every time they overlapped.

>>56895973
>>56897382
>>56897515
>>56921660
i didn't want to believe it but it's just so clear now. it's so sad to think how hostile she can be towards her own kouhai who respect and look up to her

>>56926346
>bro forgot the honeymoon buff

>>56895973
The high she was feeling from the new gen debuting wore off already and she’s back to being clinically depressed and lazy.

>>56926499
It's literally this and nothing else but let /vt/ sisters think on how bad she is from streaming for someone who would only watch her anyway.

>>56926499
She didn't even have a single collab with them

>>56926644
Ok, Gura's antis are the most retarded people here.
Do you even know what is a collab ban?

i like vshojo

I remember when the cope was lack of games for her to play. And then she immediately dropped Pizza Tower and New Vegas.

>>56926717
Something that didn't stop Kiara, Mori or Bae, but you probably didn't know that since you don't watch other holos

does it matter. advent buff has already wore out and only fuwamoco are somewhat popular.

>>56926839
>but you probably didn't know that since you don't watch other holos
Like most of her fanbase.
See? Why do you care about overlaps?

>>56926893
I never said anything about overlaps, retard.
I was talking about collabs.

>>56926987
And anon was talking about something else entirely.

>>56895973
HoloSummer

>>56927005
Because he's a retard.

>>56927040
He's completely right, though. So what's the reason Gura came back and fucked off immediately, then?

>>56927077
I don't give a fuck, I'm just saying that it's retarded to claim that her high from advent is gone when she didn't even do anything with them.

>>56927317
He meant she got enthusiastic into streaming again after seeing Advent's enthusiasm, it wore off quickly though.

>>56895973
Yes retard, we all know that. How much obvious does shit gotta be

>>56906196
It's been a week since she last said anything. Not a single word from her. Not even a tweet.

>>56926349
I don't give a shit about her relationship with her kohai when she can't even be bothered to tell us she isn't going to stream for another week. We still have no fucking clue when she's even coming back.

>>56927317
she can only interact with new people in Among Us or shitty horror games, please understand

>>56918340
The last time she streamed for 6-7hrs is 2021.

In all fairness why wouldn't she?
It's fucking stupid to not stream while Advent debuts. She loses subs and members from it if she doesn't. This "Oho everyone is working together" bullshit is fake as hell. Nobody bends their ass over to help Mel OR Aki, why would Gura suddenly be charitable and let her Chumbuds flock over to the Bao Baos?

>>56896524
>she'll now regress to back to the mean
You do realize the reason she isn't streaming right now is for Holosummer preparation right?

>>56930740
I'm kinda surprised that its Miko of the 1st Army and not Marine who is helping Mel of late.

>>56931125
Maybe?
But Gura has too way many suspicious pauses so people is going to doubt her now.
>>56930740
>Chumbuds flock over to the Bao Baos?
Trust me, everyone already flocked away from her during this last year, so all she's disappointing is her actual fans who love her and only her. Flickering buds are already gone. Hence why crying about "muh overlap" is cringe.

>>56918678
ah yes, her timeslot. the timeslot she abandoned for a good year. came back specifically during advent first 2 weeks to overlap them, yeah, on her timeslot.

>>56930195
big events only. so things like anniversary, birthday, christmas and 3d concerts. she might be wrangled into things like halloween or thanksgiving too

>>56926053
>Chumbuds always get the last laugh
yes, when gura streams!

>>56916242
>Why do you care so much
I care about as much about it as I would if I'm having a conversation about the price of milk. Its a conversation topic after all.