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Can hololiveEN regain its glory?

>> No.56886810

>>56886762
no

>> No.56886869

>>56886762
Maybe.
If Gura streams more, Advent collabs with her and Tempus gets segregated.

>> No.56886889

>>56886810
FPBP

>> No.56886904

Why are western people so hateful towards males? JP had male collabs from the start and it rose towards the top.

>> No.56887050

>>56886904
Only vtuber faggots. We enjoy watching fleshstreamers, or even better, people who don't even put themselves on the screen and simple use their voice.

>> No.56887130

If you team up Gura with Altare then you may have a chance of getting some big numbers, but there could be some other power couples.

>> No.56887222

>>56887130
Altare is for Ame

>> No.56887411

Wew, that EN3 buff was real, but still not as good as the covid boost

HoloJP recovered their covid numbers, and look pretty stable.

HoloID losing slowly their 3rd gen boost, they need to release a new gen asap, but they are still doing good.

NijiEN didn't capitalize the Luxiem boost, and their numbers are low because of the huge number of new streamers that are 3 view.

StarsEN on decline, but honestly the methodology of the graph is trash.

>> No.56887430

the main thing people keep forgetting, either intentionally or unintentionally, is that the pandemic buff doesn't exist anymore.
if anything, the subscriber numbers for advent initially seem more "true to life," while the numbers of council and myth ought to be lower than they are, either due to fake accounts or people who subscribe but don't really care.
in terms of a core fanbase, it will always exist. however, there is a limit to wallets.

we will see a decline

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56887514

>>56886904
It wasn't popular when JP was collaborating with men
Fubuki, Choco ASMR, and AQUA Solo stream were the only popular hololives before 3GEN
https://youtu.be/rvwHM6NnETI?t=185

>> No.56887582

>>56887411
The En3 buff basically reset their numbers to pre-stars which is when they should have debuted a new gen.

>> No.56887621
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56887621

>>56886762
99% of it is Mori becoming irrelevant. Everyone else is doing fine.

>> No.56887898

>>56887621
>Gura under 10k in a collab
>IRyS under 3k in a collab
>Ame under 4k in a collab

Ina is losing viewers too, everyone in HoloEN is losing viewers, the only one gaining viewers is Kiara but is a small amount under 10%, and only because her numbers were always bad

>> No.56888327

>>56887898
This guy posts cherrypicked numbers to try and cast Mori in the worst possible light, pretty sure everyone eventually peaked higher

>> No.56888556

>>56887050
That sounds more like you being afraid you'll turn gay if a man appears onscreen, most youtube guys who start out not using a face cam undergo major growth after adding one

>> No.56889290

>>56886904
Jealousy naturally.
Also Numberfaggots still malding.

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>>56888327

>> No.56890011

>>56886904
Jp had male collabs from the start, then stopped and rose toward the top, that the actual timeline anon, Why are you still bringing what stopped hololive to raise as a point everytime, i still don't get it. People don't want to watch male Vtuber, don't bring male Vtuber on stream, isn't it fucking simple?

>> No.56890624

>>56887411
>StarsEN on decline, but honestly the methodology of the graph is trash.
Could you elaborate?

>> No.56890713

>>56886904
[shit homobeggers actually believe]

>> No.56891243

>>56890624
look at the peak of the StarsEN, they have the max peak of every branch or company on the graph, because it's:

>True average= Sum(Avg*time)/sum(time)

That mean that in case like StarEN that were just 4 dudes debuting with a crazy boost, their true average is huge, because is only divided by the time they stream on their debut (less than one hour) and the TOTAL true average of all StarEN is only divided by 4, so the deviation is almost zero.

In the other side you have NijiJP and NijiEN with a fucking ton of streamers, so your true average have a huge stat deviation, and the TOTAL true avg is divided by the number of streamers that is a lot.

So this mean that NijiJP and NijiEN numbers are nerfed, but this also true for holoJP

>> No.56891683

>>56887411
>NijiEN didn't capitalize the Luxiem boost, and their numbers are low because of the huge number of new streamers that are 3 view.
You can still multiply that number * the # of active members to have an idea of how large the audience is.

>StarsEN on decline, but honestly the methodology of the graph is trash.
Cope.

>> No.56891779

>>56891243
>That mean that in case like StarEN that were just 4 dudes debuting with a crazy boost, their true average is huge, because is only divided by the time they stream on their debut (less than one hour) and the TOTAL true average of all StarEN is only divided by 4, so the deviation is almost zero.
Anon, you're using too many words to describe
>debut buff
Their initial numbers were massive because they had just debuted but,. after 30 days, there is no fucking "deviation" problem. It's a rolling 30 days average, the numbers reflect their true average in that period.
Their recline is perfectly represented in that chart.

Another thing you mention is the number of livers for Niji, which is true for NIjiJP (and not so much for NIjiEN).
This chart shows that they have a long tail but even when restricting to only the 35 top Njis, their average only go as high as 5k, 6k because even the bottom 20 of their top 35 average around 3k

>> No.56891854

>>56887898
Faggots that don’t watch streams or numbers amazing

>> No.56892046

>>56891243
>lower number of members gets divided by a lower number
>higher number of members gets divided by a higher number
Yeah, that's the point of an average

>> No.56895378

>>56886904
Why do you pretend?

>> No.56895501

>>56887430
>pandemic buff
was never a thing

>> No.56895687

>>56886762
Yes, but only if they let me fuck any talent I want for the next 3 years.

>> No.56899518

>>56895687
Fuck off forever, Vesper

>> No.56902662

>>56890011
Wrong; Fubuki, Mel, Towa, Botan, La+ & Matsuri for example, all either still do stuff with dudes or only stopped long after they had already gotten popular.

>> No.56909226

>>56886762
>starsEN's dive into irrelevance
kek

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>>56887621
>>>/vt/image/ujQvnp65msRVRqSb141Vtg
>another edit
My fucking sides. Still the most viewed EN this month btw

>> No.56909375

>>56886762
Good, fuck these whores

>> No.56911029

>>56902662
Fubuki is the only one out there who can do a solo 10k, but I wouldn't say it's popular.
For example, Towa falsifies numbers on the holocolab stream except when playing with men

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