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Mori's music producer is calling fuwamoco(and hololive as a whole) the FUCK out.
>>56831120SUCCESS BREEDS JEALOUSY
>>56831120Disgusting sounding trannyThe jelousy
>>56831120It's fine when Hololive does it.
>>56831120I hope Cover throws the book at they/them
>>56831120>You have the moneyThey literally don't have the money. Their first paycheck is a couple of weeks away.
>>56831120How retarded do you have to be to not understand requesting fan submissions increases fan engagement.
>>56831120>doesn't understand the concept of fan input>only thinks in terms of moneyWhat a hollow person
>>56831120cool take bro, very valid>blacklists you
>>56831216you'd have to have fans to understand that concept.
>>56831120>Mori's music producerSo a faggot who made some music for a bitch, behaving in such an insufferable way. Wow, colour me surprised. Did he sink into irrelevance and decided to spitefully call these girls out to propel himself out of the rut? I like how the homo was implying that they wouldn't give any credit, too.
>>56831120didn't Mori have a whole remix contest thing? was that "fishing" too? or was it just fan interaction, which is something Fuwamoco clearly care a lot about?
>>56831120Baffling. How does one not understand the concept of fan art?
PAY US MONEY REEEEEok just don't submit anything then?
>>56831120So this is what a Jew looks like in the wild
NOOOO AHHH PAY ME NO YOU CANT USE AI TO INVALIDATE THE SKILLS I WASTED 10 YEARS ON AHH
>>56831120>doesn't see the free advertisement that come from working with HololiveA lot of artists/producers would even pay Hololive just for the exposure
Working for hololive worths more than the filthy $100 you get for gig a jingle. Stupid greedy fuck
>>56831120I knew, as soon as I watched the stream, that some faggot "musician" was gonna cry about it.
>>56831120What a retard
Things like this happen to many of the people Mori associates with. strange
>>56831120>guy made a 10 second thing for moris transformation>he then made a retarded tweet>MORI MORI MORI its all moris faultgrow up
>>56831120Shhh don't let this guy know his "employer" has done the exact same kind of thing..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDkow-nDQo4And by "don't let him know" I mean do.
>>56831120wow this is some high level cringe, the kind of cringe you need to grind for months to achieve
>>56831120I know vt has a gient erection for these two but he's actually right. They're not actual anime dog women, you know that right? These are two (now) very rich women. He knows the intention of this, his point is specifically about it being THEM for how big they are. He obviously knows this is to help give people exposure and is worried it will encourage other big vtubers to do the same so they never have to pay.
>>56831120>ask for submissions of fanart, dog pictures, photo edits, etc>REEEEEEEEEE WHY ARENT YOU PAYING MONEY FOR THEIR WORK What a douche
>>56831120>thinks of himself as an "alchemist">worked with fucking mori>plays apex mobile>pure faggotry of a profile pictureI'm extremely surprised he didn't have pronouns and lgbt/toothpaste flags on his bio, too.
>>56831120>Finnish trannyHe will get raped by Somali refugees.Btw I offered to make a BGM for my previous oshi free of charge. People that love their oshi;s will gladly do it for free. I edited some chuubas videos and clips for free (small chuubas tho').
>>56831291>>56831397Mori's remix contest was not to keep the piece of music for herself.FuwaMoco here literally asking for free content for exposure.>but its only 10 seconds broa stinger is 2 seconds of animation, so they need to be given out for free too?if you cannot see how these are different you are retarded ruffian drones.
>>56831120Absolute braindead
Agree, how could they make this for free. People should pay Hololive to be featured
>>56831120Another wannabe clout chaser go into the trash
>>56831120Don’t tell this Nigga about HoloCure lmao
Wait, someone Mori brought into Hololive turned out to be a piece of shit? NO WAY.
>>56831459nobody commission holocure.FuwaMoco is asking for free things they will use on their commercial content. stop being retarded
>>56831120What a retard. It's a fun optional thing for any fan to voluntarily contribute to. If they get chosen, then they'll have the satisfaction of always being a part of Fuwamoco Morning, which would be worth more to an actual fan than a business transaction
>>56831120He's right, seethe redditors.
>>56831426You know people can just not submit stuff right? Just reeks of jealousy in so many ways
>>56831459Was HoloCure something some begged for on stream? He's completely correct.
>>56831120Faggots like this eventually kill themselves.
>>56831411Anon, the jingle isn't meant to be anything serious or high-grade. It's just for fun. They even said they'd take something that's only like 5 notes. Even if it were serious, people can just, oh I don't know, not submit anything.
>>56831491Ok just dont submit anything? Dont worry one day your soundcloud will make it big bro
I swear back in the day people just enjoyed doing stuff and posting it on the internet but these days people just cant understand the concept of enjoying something and posting it for fun without trying to make money
>>56831120me when I don't understand the concept of fanwork
>>56831411>>56831426It's a 10-fucking-second jingle. I know people who could make those in 30 minutes tops. It's fine to charge for it, but it's not a fucking issue to "pay with exposure" in this case, either. You're making mountains out of molehills, joshua.
>>56831411Going to respond seriously because im annoyed people could hold this opinion; why the fuck would they have to pay? Its a ten second fucking jingle, not an actual song. If, like every Holo implicitly does, they asked for fanart, would you say they were scamming the tanartists by paying them in exposure or some nonsense?
Mediocre twitter artists are so bitter. Whether it's music, drawing, voice actors, whatever. They think they are entitled to money despite no one wanting to pay for their products.
>>56831411yeah, this has been a thing for awhile now and mainly against corporations who do the same thing and pay contributors with "exposure". It's one thing to ask permission for an existing fan art and another to solicit work for free.
>>56831120Sound like a great way to never work with Mori or hololive ever again. What a retard since Mori always recommends people she works with that do good jobs.
>>56831459Cover has literally offered him money. No surprise only catalogfags get mad at this tweet.
But guys, seriously tho.. this aint it.. Older gens never asked something like that, even giving a deadline! All fan-arts/ fan-music used by members older gen were already posted by fans as appreciation, not to some competition..
>>56831514>>56831531He is not complaining about the fans giving them free shit, he is rightfully attacking rich people asking for free shit when they could easily pay for it instead.>>56831540ITS ONYL A 2 SECOND STINGER, THEY SHOULD GIVE THESE OUT FOR FREE WTF????your argument is retarded you fucking pissdrinker
>>56831411>richNigger please. These two in particular was 2views and struggling to get paid doing some tourism gig which got canned. Do you think they get handed 10M dollars as soon as you get recruited?
>>56831120I hope no one does anything crazy like find out where this guy lives and kills him
>>56831491When holos feature fanart on their stream, are they scamming the fanartist by not paying them?
>>56831567Stay on Twitter Josh
>another desperate attempt to drag Mori into something.much like that /meat/ tuber shit.
>>56831568Hey nigs, might want to do your reps. FWMC come from a very wealthy background and have had their family funding their quest for a Japanese sugar daddy while doing absolutely fuck all productive for 12+ years.
>>56831557They're not soliciting work though.
>>56831566Its particularly funny, because njis do this all the time and people blow up about kurosanji about it each time it happens, because its blatantly a corpo exploiting fans when they could easily pay them.
>>56831120How long until deleted?
>>56831568they got hired by cover months ago and recieved a salary for that time arleady.Now they have superchats that will be given out to them. They can pay for this content.>>56831585nobody commission those fan arts. Again: FuwaMoco is outright asking the following: PLEASE CREATE CONTENT FOR FREE SO WE CAN USE IT TO MAKE MONEY FOR US (NOT FOR YOU)
>>56831585You are being stupid.. Those are already existing fan-arts that already liked members and fans themselves. But what fuwamoco is doing is some sort of COMPETITION!
>>5683156810-second jingles don't cost 10M dollars
>>56831120what an actual fucking nigger
>>56831120The only thing he did was moris magical girl transformation. What a fucking leech to have her name in the twitter bio
>>56831426A 10 second jingle is like 2-4 bars and we know they will go for something cutesy sounding so there's no use spending a lot of effort on getting the coolest / most exquisitely engineered high tech binaural thing run though $10,000 compressors to impress them. they will pick some cute jingle done probably with default bell/flute presets in FL or something 99% odds. it's not remotely the same as making a cohesive track.
Nijisanji is also doing the same, why isn't anyone complaining about them?
>>56831120>NO HOW DARE YOU ENGAGE WITH YOUR FANS YOU MUST GIVE ME OR ONE OF MY BUDDIES A PAYDAY
>>56831120I mean he's not wrong, even nijishits offer monetary compensation or prizes.
Mori is the worst thing that ever happened to hololive. Everyone she surrounds herself with and brings into the hololive sphere is just an absolute piece of shit.
>>56831634Won't save him. Mori browses this place far too often to not see this.
>>56831120ITS FUCKING MORI SHIT AGAIN HUH
>>56831120I hope he gets shit on and deletes what a fucking crybaby
>>56831411He's a fucking dumbass.Their PLs asked for fan-art this way as well and a lot of the fans were more than happy to submit even shitty fan-art that they did to the best of their ability so they could be featured by them.
>>56831567>2 SECOND STINGERThe fuck are you even on about? What stinger? The car? The weapon? At any rate, you're not compelled to "give away" your shitty-ass jingle. At the minimum there will be hundreds of high-quality submissions. Stay bitter, 2-bit "musician".
>>56831639Paying for it would ruin the purpose of it. Its soulless
>Mori's music producer>just made a random transformation sequence BGM, not an actual track for her song.Why are idiots omitting this?
>>56831621Sure thing sis, can you tell me what they eat this morning too.
>completely voluntary>if someone doesn't want to do "free work" they don't have to
>>56831652Yes its costs 0 dollars. No one is paying for a 10 second jingle.
It might be one thing to ask for a full song (even then, honestly I don't see the issue) butten secondsTEN FUCKING SECONDSYou could download reaper and bang this out on your lunch break
>>56831631It's fine when Hololive does it.
>>56831631Yeah, thats why this aint it.. Older gens dont do this.. They should have just let the fan-arts/music made "NATURALLY"..
>>56831639>PLEASE CREATE CONTENT FOR FREE SO WE CAN USE IT TO MAKE MONEY FOR USIf you think this dumb fucking jingle will have any impact on how much money they will generate you are a retard.
>>56831120>finish
Yet another thing Mori is to blame for
>>56831120I'm just reporting this to Cover so he gets blacklisted for trying to start up some shit. Actual retard.
>>56831686You know exactly why lol.
I'm guessing Mori will stop using the magical girl transformation thing now
>>56831722Do they really blacklist people like this?
REEEEEEEE WHY ARE YOU SOLICITING CHRISTMAS GIFTS FROM ME
>>56831120>NOOOOOOOO OOO DON'T DO ANYTHING OUT OF PASSION MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONKEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY
>>56831530>Anon, the jingle isn't meant to be anything serious or high-grade>>56831540>It's a 10-fucking-second jingle>>56831548>why the fuck would they have to pay? Its a ten second fucking jingle, not an actual song>'from our MUSICIALLY TALENTED RUFFIANS'Can you niggers read?
>>56831411>They're not actual anime dog womenThey are.
>>56831120So while we're here, does anyone actually know which Mori song/project he was involved in?
>>56831714Finns are always freaking sourpusses, all they know is complaining and being grumpy old ment. their gay neighbour
>>56831120Imma still blaming Mori for this one
>>56831687Don't pull the "omg I followed their PL, the struggle" shit if you're afraid of getting corrected bruv.
Gonna open up bosca ceoil and make something simple with a few samples of FuwaMoco thrown in just to get his blood pumping
>>56831706Clearly anon is telling us that this shitty 10 second jingle will earn them millions in album sales.
>>56831699The issue is HAVING A BANNER TO POST IT LIKE ITS SOME COMPETITION! if its just a nice banter on their stream like.. "I wonder if we could have a nice jingle".. FAN MADE JINGLES WOULD COME WITHOUT EFFORT!
>>56831621You were doing the wrong reps then, faggot.
>>56831639>... so we use it to make money for usThey're not gonna double their earnings because of a 10 second jingle you brain-dead shiteater. Nobody is going to give them more money just because they hear a little jingle during their stream. Do you even think?
>>56831661They do. Selen got blowback on twitter for her outfit contest at first, until she offered money prizes for the winners. And /here/ shit on Pomu for asking for fanart to feature in a song cover project.
>>56831749The Mahou Shoujo Transformation BGM.
>>56831120Cant wait till AI replaces capitalism poisoned people like this
>>56831120What a huge faggot. Typical white tranny behavior
>>56831621>very wealthy >grow up in cold bumfuck nowhere where they dont even speak english
>>56831625If they were small indies, it would be totally fine and nobody will care. Since they are in a corpo, it's not a good look for them and cover.
>>56831749The music for that 15 seconds transformation thing she uses at the start of her stream
>>56831760Stop POSTING like THIS you absolute FAGGOT and go the fuck back
>>56831120He's just a retard. He has no clue FWMC still hasn't seen a single dime from streaming.
>AHHH CLEARLY COCO SHOULD HAVE PAID ME FOR MY MEMESSS. I GOT FEATURED ALOT IN MEME REVIEWThis is how dumb any argument on this is.
Kek, hacchama does content like this all the time.
>commissions multiple works of art and music even from fans who would be willing to do it for free, because she believes in supporting artistsfind you an oshi like Kiara
>>56831699Why don’t you do it then?
>>56831749https://twitter.com/atelierjoshua/status/1620830315660083201?lang=enthis is what people are trying to use in order to drag mori into this nothingburger drama
He is this entitled because he worked with Hololive who pays generously. Wouldn't have been the same if he worked with Anycolor.
>>56831120They should have asked for JP artists only
>>56831739Nta, probably not but they will be wary of them if there another complain about their talents.
>>56831805Nigga aint nobody making Kiara shit without a paycheck
>>56831660exactly. its not as expensive to make those, so they should pay for having it created.>>56831684you are retarded if you dont know by now what it is. (its the short animation that plays on scene transitions)>>56831699read above: ITS ONLY A 2 SECOND ANIMATION, WHY SHOULD I PAY FOR IT????>>56831706stop fucking being retarded. Their stream is commercial and once the jingle is "theirs" they will use it in other content that is paid. See Walfies small designs that are now being sold. I hope he gets a cut or they bought the designs from him.>>56831764IT DOESNT MATTERIF YOU USE SHIT IN YOUR COMMERCIAL PRODUCT YOU BETTER PAY THE CREATOR FOR IT YOU FUCKING CHEAP CUNTS>>56831799nobody commissioned these memes. the fucking dogs literally ask for content for free like they deserve to get anything handed to them. Get this shit in your thick skulls ruffian niggers.
>>56831120WOAH....literally who?
>>56831751I love me finish bros, even if they're just grumpy all the time...t. also the gay neighbour
Wait until this guy finds out people draw vtubers they like for $0
>>56831567How did he know that they definitely won't pay or credit the winner?
>>56831120Holy kek what a retard. There's nothing wrong with accepting free work from Ruffians when they're willing to work for free. In fact, only a complete moron would shell out money for a jingle when they could get one for no charge. What's this pathetic faggot afraid of? Being driven out of business by fans working for free?
>>56831639The girls aren't putting a gun to anyone's fucking head to make the jingle. And it's a 10-second jingle. How much money is a 10-second jingle going to make? You're just being a petty bitch, joshua.
>>56831120What the actual fuck???
>>56831356I know "Paying with exposure" is a meme with artists because annoying nobodies will use it to try to get free commissions. But exposure from a major company like this is very, very valuable.
>>56831291thisBitch listing Mori as self promotion he worked with big name, but somehow it's a problem when other noname artists get the opportunity.
>>56831797Even if they were millionaires, their OG fans would be more than happy to bust out some kind of jingle just so FWMC can talk about the submissions on stream
>>56831830retard
>>56831643>Those are already existing fan-artsHolos request specific fan art all the time.
>>56831760Why do you sound like you struggle to make 10 seconds of sound in less than an hour?
>>56831120>Mori’s music producer>literally the only work he’s ever done was a 10 second riff for her introConsider the rope.
>>56831567Fuwamoco aren't rich you fucking retard. They don't get their superchat money for another 2 months
>>56831685this is corpo, it's already innately soulless. Instead of directly asking, they should have instead hinted that a having a jingle would be nice.
>>56831761>>56831785>private tutors from highschool to teach Japanese>multiple extended trips overseas funded for them>dance and vocal coaches provided>big houses in some of the most expensive markets on the planetYou know they're not exactly private or unknown right?
>>56831120Yet another one of Mori's friends turns out to be a total asswipe. Starting to see a trend here.
I like how OP can't name the song that this guy is involved in.
>>56831823I see
>can't stand seeing big accounts like this fish for pictures of fans' living rooms to rate, they should pay professional photographers>can't stand seeing big accounts like this request games they should play on stream, they should pay professional curatorscan't stand seeing big accounts like this open up a marshmellow account and and request questions, they should pay professional stream watchers
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>>56831836because they didnt specifically mention it.>>56831843it doesnt fucking matter how much money it makes. your argument can be used against you. IF ITS SO FUCKING CHEAP TO MAKE ONE JUST PAY FOR IT YOU FUCKING GREEDY WHORES>>56831866THEY GOT PAID BY COVER FOR MONTHS NOWSOON THEY WILL HAVE THEIR SUPERCHAT MONEYTHEY CAN PAY FOR IT NIGGER
>>56831849Most of the ones getting paid by Holo for merch art are former fanartist who made holo content.
>>56831643>Those are already existing fan-artsOutfit speculation fan art is something that fuckloads of vtubers do, and that's a request for free content they use in their monetized outfit reveal stream
>>56831120Producers reflect the streamer
>>56831866Then they can wait 2 months and commission the jingle after they get paid.
>>56831864I wonder how much the fuckhead made her pay for it...
Fuwamoco really have mindbroken the entire HoloEN """fanbase"""
>>56831875>paid to make a 20 seconds guitar rift>friend
This corpo bootlicker mentality is hilarious. You apologist fucks are the reason corpos shit on consuners more every day, because you accept everything.
>MORI MORI LE BADdid you know that one of the first instances of this behavior was a guy who made music out of Ame's voice and got mad over Ame not paying him?, NEWFAG?
>>56831805based Kiara, unironicallyRemember /vt/, most people here are NEETs who can't value people work or the amount of hours someone puts into a hobby, expecting them to do everything for free for very rich people.
>>56831831You must be the life of the party, what's it like for everyone to talk about you, but get quiet when you approach them?
no one is holding a gun to anyone's head, if someone cares that much about money then they won't submit anything
It's OK when Hololive does it - the thread.
>>56831120What a piece of fucking shit, I hope he gets raped by a nigger
>900 viewshow the fuck did op even see this
>>56831875I doubt she knows him personally.
>>56831831Nobody care about you feeling johsua, if fan happy to do a 10 sec jiggle, let them do it, you jealous bitch.
>>56831871This might be the funniest shit I’ve seen all day. Good one man keep it up
>>56831886>for monthsFirst salary is 2 month after debut
>>56831908MONEY MONEY MONEY. WHAT HAPPEN TO HAVING FUN?
>>56831809Oh don't worry, I'm making one right now just for him
>>56831411>He obviously knows this is to help give people exposure and is worried it will encourage other big vtubers to do the same so they never have to pay.Good. I hope that's exactly what it does and hit drives his faggot ass out of business.
>>56831908dumb bitch I can make a jingle in fucking a minute for a shitpost while you retarded twitterlards do more begging than being artistic,
>>56831831Seethe monkeyfucker. Seethe for my entertainment. They will have thousands of free submissions and you can't do anything about it. You will never get paid.
>>56831886>"months"they literally don't get their first paycheck for a couple months after they start; we know this straight from myth. advent have not even debuted for 1 month yet, let alone the 2+ it would take for us to be -reasonably- sure they are starting to actually see the dough roll in. quit your insufferable histrionics nobody fucking cares.
>>56831747I read it just fine. Genuinely talented musicians can make a jingle effortlessly in minutes. Yes, it's literally effortless. If you want to make jingles and charge for them, it's fine, joshua. But don't pretend as if the girls did something bad here.
>>56831766>Selen got blowback on twitter for her outfit contest at first, until she offered money prizes for the winnersAnd niji rejected this idea and prohibited her from doing so.
If they’re gonna use this jingle for every stream from now on, yeah they should pay for it. Saying it builds fan engagement isn’t a decent defense because that’s just another benefit to FWMC, not to the actual fanbase.
>>56831621 >>56831871Ogey rrat
>>56831934OP isnt ironic. its him in the screenshot and hes here seething on cooldown
>>56831908God I can’t wait for AI to replace your kind
BILLIONS MUST JINGLE
>>56831805And yet she still does things like FWMC are doing, like opening up twitter hashtags for new outfit reveals and having people post artwork guesses in there.Because she's not a retard like the guy in OP's pic and knows the difference between paying for something because you want it high quality and feedback driven vs. a small, for fun request that wouldn't be paid for anyway
>>56831931Literally everyone asks for fan submissions unless you are a 2view who has no fans.
That is without a doubt a tranny.Also this trannys argument only makes sense from the perspective of a narcissist. This tranny's never even considered the possibility that some people don't care about monetizing their fanart (which legally speaking isn't monetizable in many countries anyways), and would simply be happy to have their art recognized and displayed proudly by their oshi. Normal, well adjusted humans don't need everything to be monetarily incentivized. Time to raise that percentage.
>>56831831Imagine having this much of a hate boner for someone, nijiniggers are the lowest lifeform on earth.Kill yourself
>>56831557Paid with exposure is actually a fucking good way IF they actually have the exposure. It became a joke because the people who often offering it have no fucking clout whatsoever to give.
>>56831908People should stop making fanart too because they use it as thumbnails for streams that make money!!!Alternatively, you could tongue my anus.
>>56831965Reminder that Myth or Treat was done while procastinating overnight.
>>56831120What’s the point of offering a monetary incentive for an in community creative project? Bounties are antithetical to both keeping the responses in house and the creative process respectively
>>56831970Nope, they accepted it.
>>56831120>Mori's music producerNot for long KEK
>>56831871>seething plebGet a job, hippie
>>56831948Artists that have no sense of what they are actually worth, it's always hilarious to see this shit.
>>56831120I hope every person who interacts with this fuckwad asks him for money whenever he asks them to do something for him from this point onwards.
>>56831120Dude, I literally draw fanart for free, finally musicfags can contribute too
>>56831931Yes. Biggest vtuber company in the world tf wouldn’t it be
>>56831120Twitter artists continue to prove that they are the fucking worst. The rampant, unabashed entitlement is disgusting. Doesn't matter if it's drawing or composing they're all the fucking same. It's a fucking 10 second jingle, not a massive project or a full song. And if there are those who want to do this for the twins because they like them then what the fuck is the problem? This is such a non-issue and anyone trying to push this as something bad is just a schizo.
>>56831997???? She's not allowed to pay the prize money for anything
>>56831934Considering how deranged Mori schizos are and the OP is trying to pass him off as "Mori's music producer" instead of a random she commissioned for a short guitar rift I wouldn't be surprised if the OP follows everyone Mori does to look for anything to tie back to her.
>>56831948hobby is doing it for fun, a job will always be tied to a monetary benefit. they are corpo, and this is a job for them.
>>56831120Eat shit tranny and kyshttps://files.catbox.moe/n04fb7.mpBAU BAU
HELP FUWAWA AND MOCOCO ARE MAKING ME STRUM OUT SOME SICK BEATSAAIIEEEEEEEEE
>>56831747We can read how pathetic you really are, troonThe idea that people can just give away labor for free if they love the client enough will forever escape you
>>56831976Yeah makes sense it's op seething in the thread. Kys Op. The internet used to be about fans making shit for fun. Not endless beggars and 2bit careerists.
>>56831863I see you still not get the point.. its the "asking" part, creating banners and such.. for a mere simple 10 sec jingle. they could just said this on stream and ask on a playful way, im sure many would create that.. but announcing it like that leaves a bad taste.
>>56831120>NOOOOOOO HOW DARE YOU ASK YOUR FANS FOR FREE FANMADE MUSIC THAT WILL BE ON EVERY STREAM AND CREDITED>YOU SHOULD HAVE PAY ME TO MAKE IT! PAY ME, MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHoly fuck, how retards like this dont get embarrassed from doing shit like this?
Mori, I know you're /here/, just put an Ouroboros remix BGM on the Transformation sequence.
>he fell for the crowdsourcing is bad memeGet a real job, hippie
>>56832018Mori should ask him to pay for using her name in his twitter Bio.
>>56831411kobo could literally grab a guitar and make a 10 seconds tune within 15 minutes maxits not tat serious
>>56831760Could you be possibly be more autistic and pedantic? They're making it clear that this is a fan contest. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. Go back to liking just stop oil videos, joshua.
>>56832021Nope, she had to fight for it, but they did accept it.https://twitter.com/Selen_Tatsuki/status/1656285014743732231
>>56831385This is why he is mad, he wanted to get payed for another 10 seconds.
>>56831976I mean the seething with CAPS ON are palatable, for not to be him.
Don't submit it if you don't want to. It's that easy, retard.
>>56831939>>56831960you are fucking retarded againThe problem is not the fans doing it, the problem is the people with money wanting FREE SHIT to make MORE MONEY.if the jingle is so cheap, they should be able to pay the creator, right?>>56831989I just hate people who have money and are not willing to pay other people for services they want to have taken care of. Why do you support people getting shit for free, when you are a little bitch who complains about poor people ever getting free shit?Why are only rich people allowed to get free shit in your worldview?
>>56831994Yea, if they offered money, professionals would just start coming in and out-music the fans for the prize and clout as well.
>>56831831Hey dumbass, do you know that fan requests and free content happen all the time? There is always "free content used in monetized content" and there’s nothing wrong with that if the creator of that content willingly does so. How stupid can you be?
>>56831120Retard.They're being upfront about the fact that the artists won't be paid, so they're not lying to anyone, plus you get exposure on a very big platform.Plenty of artists who started with fanart later got paid comissions from holos.
>>56831853I definitely wouldThis is in the same vein as people taking pictures of their rooms or people drawing what someone's new outfit will be based on the silhouetteFan submissions more for fun than anything
>>56831991Its ok for fans to make fanart.Its not ok for creators to ask fans to make fanart.Not a hard concept.
Throwback to that Dr. Seuss idiot, that blew his relation with Hololive by being greedy.Meanwhile Kay Yu is already meeting with COVER.
God damn, this thread blew up quickly.
>>56831943Righto dude, if you want to believe ally and sally are a struggle street rags to riches story then all the more power to you. They had their entire run at being aidorus and consluts funded by their parents, for literally years.
>>56831886>THEY CAN PAY FOR IT NIGGERPaying for it would be foolish. Case dismissed.
>>56832024Her fault for picking a fucking finnPick a swede instead, the jews of the music industry
I can see nijiniggers are still seething because they can't get thing for free
>>56831871They live in bunk beds in the same room and share 1 PC and had to sell their anime figures because well, money issues most likely. I hope they rebuild their collection soon because this is just too sad.
>>56831948>>56831958>>56831979>>56831991Kek Consumerist sheeple will be licking the boot on your neck all the way down.
>>56831886The dogs are living rent free in your head aren't they, also I wouldn't pay $5 for anything you'd ever make. It's nice how you defend the rights of people who are better than you though.
>>56832047good point
>>56832067You have a lot of outfit speculation fan art requests to get mad about then.
>>56831831Just stopped by to say you sound like a huge faggot. This why no one likes artists.
>>56832061In the words of Mococo "Do a flip"
how come people like this always talk like this>or maybe you could just fucking pay them JUST FUCKING PAY THEM you know what im talking about? its like all of those autistic "creatives" who make people want to support AI, they all talk like this, how come?
FWMC are literally holding a gun to my head and forcing me to draw them having incestuous sex. They are literally the antichrist. Send help. I don't know how much more my hands can take this endless drawing...
>>56832075I just hate people that try to break the internet with their entitlement, but I don't have the power to deny the guy in OP's pic access to the internet, so I'm only left to seethe in this thread
>>56832047If mori change her intro transition, she should tell him to remove her name or pay up for clout.
>>56831898Or they can just get one from a fan who will happily do it to be noticed by their oshi. And the fag in the OP will seethe and then die of monkey pox.
>PL graduated 9 months ago>they started less than a month agothey likely don't have money.
Haachama does this weekly in the old days kek.
>>56832063Hey dumbass, there is a differnce between "hey im giving you this fan shit for free" and "Hey, i could technically pay you for making this but I want this for free instead because I feel like i deserve it for free and you dont deserve my money because clearly just the exposure we give you is enough, right??? dont be greedy now"
I never fell for any of the "Calli hates the twins" bullshit, but I think with this, I'm actually giving it some credibility.A casual few DMs of "man they are so insufferable" back and fourth between them... a few wee drunk confessions mayhaps?
>>56832067They are not only asking for it, they basically turned it into a contest without any prize money.
>>56832036You clearly are the one with no taste, moronFor every fag like you that wants them to say it on stream there will be other fags that would prefer they just tweet it insteadYou reek of jealousy and i pity you
>>56831831Nigger, you're a faggot, your "art" is trash, and you will never accomplish anything. I hope the next guy that fucks your ass has aids
>>56832089>Kek Consumerist sheeple will be licking the boot on your neck all the way down.I bet you're the biggest consoomer in this thread kek
Every vtuber needs to pay for each piece of fanart they get if it takes over an hour to complete.
>>56831908>consunersI'm sorry, Anon. This minor spelling mistake has rendered your argument invalid.
>>56831661Niji want the copyright to every single submitted fanwork including those that doesn't win
>>56832087Where did they mention they've had to sell their anime figures?That's really sad. Although I'm jelly there's some schmuck out there who doesn't know he now owns a one-of-a-kind figure that was pre-owned and pre-touched by FWMC.
Man, this dude is mad as fuck.
God I love the unfiltered amounts of seethe these two dogs cause.
>>56832133Sounds fun, I wish my oshi would do something creative and have a stream going over the entries
>>56832061>people who have moneyEVERYONE WORKING A JOB HAS MONEY YOU STUPID JEALOUS TANKIE>muh rich peopleThis is a non argument, and they aren’t even "rich", you dumbass leftist artists just think anyone making more than minimum wage is rich.And no, when was I complaining about poor people getting free things? What an asspull strawman.If people want to do it, then it’s fine. It’s not like they requested something major you fucking faggot. But of course, you’re not trying to argue in good faith, you’re just a schizo anti grasping for straws to tear them down
>>56832129Pretty sure her entire intro song was something a fan made
>>56832132>still tryingWe know it's you, OP.
>>56832116Oh nyo wuffian.. you must stop drawing their tongues deep in each other's mouths. Return to jesus....
>>56832149If they hold a contest for it and plan to monetize it, sure.
>nijiniggers, phasecucks and other corpokeks are seething because Hololive can get quality communities content for freeSuccess breed jealousy
>>56831120Fuwamoco will be getting that 10s jingle from fans regardless of whether or not they pay the creator, so why pay at all? Their fanart tag is literally filled to the brim with a constant flow of artwork, and they don't ask for any of that to be made and fans are fine with them using their artwork for schedule posts.In fact, fuwamoco already got a short BGM thing from the guy who made Koyori's intro music. He also did that for free as well, and it's still being used in every one of koyo's streams to this day. What's the difference? It's all voluntary anyway.
>>56832061>I just hate people who have moneyThey don't have money. They're living out of a shoebox with bunk beds in their living room my man. Now kill yourself
>>56831831You're trying way too hard to fan the flames. It ain't going to be lit, joshua. It's a fan contest, and for something that is extremely simple to make. I'll just download adobe audition and submit one just to spite you, you stupid little cunt.
>>56832163faggots do be angry about dogs doing absolutely nothing.
>>56831567>he is rightfully attacking rich peopleYou're not fucking robin hood you retard joshua
>>56832176just the animated MV.
>mori did the music contest>mori had that 7 sins drawing contestgoing to laugh when she wakes up tomorrow and unfollows him
It's amazing how the attitude of this board changes depending on what logo someone has next to their name. I remember not even a few weeks ago Pomu asking for fanart submissions for a project and her being mocked for it and shit on for it in a thread on this board. But when someone from hololive does it and it's suddenly a good thing.
>>56832159In the most recent FWMC morning stream I believe? Or if I'm remembering wrong could be the Nobeta. They talked about having lots of anime figures and due to some circumstance not having as many any more.
>CORPO BAD>Injecting gacha money in his veins AHAHAHAHAHHA
>>56832159>Where did they mention they've had to sell their anime figures?In the last fuwamoco morning.
>>56832161>Man, this dude is mad as fuck.Wait a minute. What if he's mad because he offered to make Fuwamoco a jingle for money and they ignored his stupid ass? I just invented this rrat and I already believe it
>>56832176She had multiple fan-made stuff that was good.
I have a feel the people mad at Fuwamoco for this is a tight overlap with people mad at vtubers like Kanata who don't collab with men
>>56832036All of Advent is literally building their brand right now, why would they pay people who THINK they have talent instead of actually finding them out in the wild? Also, why do you assume the winner won't get paid?
>>56832061Don't care. Their happiness and wallet are vastly more important than you getting paid.
>>56832083We can and have, despite all of your shitting on them for asking for similar things. At least now, I can point to this FWMC tweet the next time you shit on my oshi for asking for fan works submissions.
>>56832110Because they know they're about to be replaced and are sperging out as hard as possible to try and delay the inevitable.
>>56832110They believe in shit like universal basic income, you know what kind of people they are
>>56832192I mean they all can get pretty decent community content too.Not sure why you're acting like such a dick.
>>56832164They aren’t doing anything creative; they’re profiting off others creativity.
>>56832077I’m here to tell you right now, we don’t care, hahah, we don’t care. But keep it up, wannabe Hololive historians are funny af
>asking for people to tag their fanart (which they were already drawing for free) so they have a chance to have it proudly displayed is somehow evil>confusing/brainwashing kids then cutting their genitals off for thousands of dollars and replacing it with literal necrotic flesh is not only morally acceptable but also should be encouraged??? tranny mindset... truly a mystery
>>56832133Maybe there is something for the winner but dont want to attact faggots like the guy in OP screenshot who only do it for a payday
>>56832067So when they request fan art for outfit reveal prediction, it became a problem? Try doing mental gymnastics on that logic.
Don't care. Still love FuwaMoco. Will be submitting something for free and hope they use it.
There's still time to delete the tweet, Josh
>>56832224I second this, or at least he's been rejected plenty of times for trying to pawn off shit sound.
Do not listen to Fuwawa guys
>>56832219Because Pomu cut off her tits or had her ovaries removed for a cancer that could POTENTIALLY happen. Either way, she is useless as a woman.
>>56832179This is the first time I've posted on the board today.I literally woke up an hour ago. Oh, wait, the thread is under that, so that isn't going for me.Regardless, I don't really give a flying fuck who likes who or who doesn't.They aren't friends, they are collegues. If they can get along on a professional level, all is good. If not, the one being a cunt should get told off / fired.Hololive is no stranger to this happening, especially in the case of Matsuri who sperged out over Rushia and Haachama and got a good ass-slapping from the managers.
Mori has liked multiple drawings ive done (so has kiara) and it made my week (month maybe) I scrolled though this guys twitter for like 10 minutes and I couldnt tell you anything he likes, what a miserable individual
>>56832087I can’t think of a phrase less likely to engender sympathy then “They had to sell their anime figures”. Like crying over having to sell off your funky pop collection
>>56832201They're too strong!
>>56832262>So when they request fan art for outfit reveal predictionNo one asks for that, people do it out of hype on their own. Watch streams.
>>56832219Really? Because as I remember it it was more that she couldn't get any fanart with Finana in it because no one actually wanted to draw herIt was more a shit-on-Finana thing than anything else
>>56832219who's pomu?hololive board
>>56832219HoloBoard, HoloWebsite, HoloEarth
>>56832176Art contest, video contest, music contest, r18 contest. Viewers and contributors all had fun. Paying money to the people who had fun is honestly more of an insult. Damn, i really miss haachama's old content.
>>56832221>>56832222Damn. That really hits the feels.
>>56832270lol no there isn't. Mori will 100% see the screen shot between this thread, the Mori spilt and global. He ain't getting hololive work ever again.
>>56832279Okay MyCaca-juan
>>56831621>>56831871why are doxx sisters like this?
>>56832295You wouldn't get it normie. We have emotional attachment to things like figures of our waifus.
>>56832077A literal seething 2view. Kek
>>56832075Holodefense force is throwing in everything they have>Nothing serious only a jingle>Fun things are fun (and not to be paid for)>Don't submit your commission then!>Hololive is the biggest VTubing corpo, they can't do anything wrong>Baubau have no money atm so they can't pay for it>OP posting on cooldown rumao>Nijisisters seething!!
>>56832219Nijisanji have actual haters spawned by their own clique, what's hard to understand?
>>56832313Hope she comes back soon
If you reply to this pale demon on Xitter, you are actively helping dramafags earn money and further shit up the VTubersphere.Don't do that. Laugh all you want, just do it /here/.Pretty please?
>>56832219That was because Finanna shit the bed so hard no one had drawn gen fan art in months
AIEEEEEEEEE JOSHBROS WE MAY HAVE LOST
>>56831120What a fucking retard lmao
Do you professional mountain-from-molehill shitters know how much jingle writers make? it's like 50-60k a year on average generally. That equates to about.. $20-30 an hour, basically. It would definitely not take more than an hour to make a cutesy 10-second jingle just for literal fun on a lark - you can argue "the dogs are ripping off someone of like $20 of labor" because that IS all it's actually worth I think a lot of ruffians really wouldn't give a shit to give the dogs $20 worth of their time. plenty give them $20 literally for doing nothing at all but exist. are you fucking sisters serious.
>>56832169>they arent richfucking matsuri's bank account once got maxed out. They arent "rich" now but they can pay for this after they get their money from cover. It's very clear that they get enough to pay for even this.>If people want to do it, then it’s fineTHIS ISNT THE ARGUMENT RETARD. the argument is that they are asking explicitly for free shit and nowhere did they mention since this tweet that they are going to be paying for this service they ask for. Why did they not mention money? Because they already think that they are deserving of FREE services from fans, which is fucked up.> It’s not like they requested something major you fucking faggot.IF ITS NOT A BIG DEAL JUST PAY FOR IT>>56832198They have money. If not now, soon. Monetization is enabled on their accounts and they have gotten more than enough money off superchats that will be soon in their account.>>56832199>its a fan contestwhat is the prize then? Nothing. Its not a contest. Its a fucking comission they dont wanna pay for.
>>56832321He probably wouldnt have anyway. Nigger gets given a crumb by Mori and now feels entitled to future Holo work
>>56832295For an anime fan, that's like selling your house. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy
>>56831886It does matter, because no one is being forced to make any jingle here. FWMC is not running some kind of musical sweatshop. And people make fan contests all the time, even without monetary compensation. If someone I liked asked me to make a simple PowerPoint presentation for free, I'd do it and feel great about it. Or I could refuse if I weren't feeling up to it. Either way, I'm sorry that you were born a miser and a whiner, joshua.
>>56832357>responding to anyone on any form of social media other than this shitholeno thanks.
Can't wait for AI to replace retards like this.
>>56832219It's wild. The pair of them whored themselves out to jrcach and his mates and apparently that doesn't matter because blue dorito.
>>56832335>MFW I can’t get face price for the Gura PuP because I came on it
>>56832219>Anon found out sister hate pomuDo tell me more.
>>56832067Every single vtuber has a fanart tag on twitter which they advertise on their streams, thereby also "asking for free fanart" you fucking faggot.There’s absolutely nothing wrong with this, if nobody wants to do it nobody does it. Why are you even in this hobby? Do you not also get a massive hate boner every time they stream and get donations because every vtuber streams to get donations?
>>56832304There is plenty of Lazulight group fanart already, but she can't just take and use all the existing fanart in the cover without permissions, hence why she asked for fans to submit fanart for the cover specifically. Doesn't matter if it's old or new fanart, it just needed permissions.
>>56832367>to get an exclusive signed poster from meretard
>>56832224wait this is actually hilarious if true
>>56832335>normieLARPing normalfags are the most cringe shit you find on /vt/. You can never wash off the reddit smell faggot.
>>56832367Josh keks our response?
Imagine being upset by this.Don't like it? Don't submit anything.What retards don't realize is it's literally free exposure because you already know they will credit whoevers jingle they use - which leads to eyes on their work.
>>56831411ok joshuaPERKELE :DDDD
>>56832285You're trying really hard to involve Mori in an issue that doesn't involve her. He's a fucking freelancer who happened to just have Mori's name on his Bio.This is literally Transformers 3 Sam Witwicky trying to make him being honored by Obama as a badge of Honor.
>another twitch campaign
>>56832219The key difference is that no one actually called out Pomu's asking for fanart beyond /vtBut of course you forgot about that because you break containment yourself KEK
>>56832061that jingle isn't gonna help fuwamoco make "more money", it is not gonna go on some commercial for the superbowl dumbass. fuwamoco's money is made by their being cute and pleasant. nobody is going to go "woow I am so impressed with that new jingle here's 1,000." your argument is full of holes.
>>56832243>they all can get pretty decent community content tooShow me something on par with Holocure or Idol showdown. Oh, there isn't, that's explain all the seething ITT
>>56832349No, it’s literally just you Joshua
>>56832367>payment is a poster exclusively signed by moriWhile that is already as shitty as it gets bau bau fags get nothing
>>56832407>holoboard is full of sistersI guess I should have expected as such.
>>56832367the same critique can be applied, i don't know why this would be an argument.
>>56832367Watch them argue that the poster is the payment so it doesn't count
>>56832349Nice nijiseethe, sister
>do this shit>if you win you not just get your jingle to play in all your oshi(?) streams, but also the exposure of your work being heard by around 10k people EVERYDAY, and Fuwamoco will most probably put your name in the description as wellHow an artist doesnt know this is a great deal even if you dont get paid for it
>>56832219Did anon just discover that holofan love hologirl while nijifan hate each other.It's must be a mindblowing experiance
>>56831831You sound like a music industry cunt, and are part of the reason the internet is becoming a "NO FUN ALLOWED" Zone. I hope all of this unnecessary stress leads to an early grave for you.
>>56832367That's different! She's paying them in a signed poster, you don't know how many thousands that could be worth in 10 years
>>56832219Thats because pomu for some retarded reason didnt want to use existing fanarts of her and wanted brand new ones
>>56832402is anyone supposed to know who the fuck youre talking about
Actually fucking seething because someone calls out a multi millionaire corpo's leeching out free stuffThis shit is Orwelian. Holodrones are fucking pathetic
>>56832461Artists are stupid pls understand
>>56831120It's a given that the artists will be credited lol, do you really need everything to be spoonfed and cant thick of that because it wasnt in the postalso this guy has around 15k followers, fucker forgot where he came fromany small artist sub 1k would do this all day, what's the average viewcount of the twins? that's a lot of exposure, you cant just have this kind of attitude if you dont have something to show
>>56832375Yes they are deserving of free shit, you are not, you rotten person.Seethe eternally about it
>>56832453>gets featured in FWMC streamsMori poster is basically worthless
>>56832431I'm just saying it is funny.I don't really give a fuck.I don't watch either of them, but I do read a lot of shit.
>>56831420>>56831418why do you always have tranny on your mind? He's literally just a literally who metalfaggot manchild who also watches animeshit. Why do you always have to default to trannies. Is it just your go to insult or something?
>>56832375>Hey we have this thing where people can submit fanmade content for us to use in the stream>No indication there will be monetary exchange or credit for it>Entirely voluntaryYou are a dumb bitch. Voluntary work is voluntary.Man I can't believe FuwaMoco is holding a gun to Joshua's temple forcing him to submit work, that's insane.
In todays episode:Twitter faggot angry over dogs.Over to you Cuck-dee for the niggesanji drama.
>>56832437There wasn't any containment breaking in this case. Just pointing out the double standard here on /vt/
>>56832458so the individual pictured in the OP willingly worked with someone who engages in fishing for fan content?
Lyrics:Josh is a bitch, bau bau x5
How many bots are in the thread right now?
>>56832447>show me something on par with the tower of babelAlso there are plenty of Niji and Phase VNs and they all get tons of art work and fan content.You're being a shitter.
>>56831207>PLS THINK OF THE POOR POOR VTUBERS WHO HAD MONEY BEFORE JOINING!!!
>>56832219No I think that just people laughing about how no one wanted to draw Finana so Pomu had to go beg for it.
>>56832413That and the recent niji update on fanarts only applies to fanart that was made after it was announced so there was no way in hell she was going to get the go signal from management.
>>56832349Anon, it's a numbers game. If you try to start shit, don't go surprise Pikachu face when you turned everyone around you into a fucking mob. 1 comment from 1 holofan x 10 will always mog 1 retarded take, that's how threads unfold.
>>56832219Likable people asking for shit = good.Unlikable people asking for shit = bad.>>56832061> the problem is the people with money wanting FREE SHIT to make MORE MONEY.No, this is not a problem at all. If I want to make shit for free for a person I like I will do it and I won't demand any payment for it. It is not your business whether someone wants to spend their time creating art for free as long as it's out of their own volition.
>>56831359A whopping 3.6 times more than the filthy 100$, kek
posting in epic fast thread
>has Mori's name in his bio>shits on her colleaguesHe could be 100% right for all I care, I wouldn't deal with anyone who shows piss-poor judgement like this. Way to throw away a valuable business connection.
>>56832514Is that how that really went down? Is Finana that undesirable?
>>56832500Not every moron like joshua is a trannyBut almost all trannies are dumbasses like joshuaDo the math
>>56832479I don't think you know what seething looks like, sister
>>56832351Same bunch of haters they have had since they debuted bunch of holofags trying to shit on anything they do while they'll eat it up and defend it to death if a hololive member does it.
>>56832469Because permissions. Artists can submit old fanart if they want to.
>>56832224I believe it when he took it too personal for a fan submitted fun stuff.
>>56832375Why is it fucked up to ask for people to make this? Give me a reason to dislike them doing this that isn’t out of jealousy.
I would make a 10 second jingle for free if it meant my name is forever on FWMCs youtube descriptions.
>>56832551no i think you legit are just mindbroken by this site and have tranny on your head 24/7. Unironically take a fucking break from the internet and especially this site.t. been here since 2005
>>56831886>monthsholy retard, just kill yourself bro, the "fans" have an option to not submit anything, why are you so stupid?
>>56831747dilate
>>56832219>WHY CAN'T WE PAY WITH EXPOSURE WHILE HOLOLIVE CAN REEEEEEEEEBecause Hololive has a huge following and therefore can give a huge exposure, Niji who?
>>56832367>winner gets a prizewow what a weird thing, why was never anyone mad about this I wonder
>>56832373Also here, literally if fuwamoco wanted a jingle, they could have one for pocket change.https://www.fiverr.com/categories/music-audio/jingles-intros/intros-and-outroshttps://www.fiverr.com/categories/music-audio/jingles-introshttps://www.fiverr.com/categories/music-audio/jingles-intros/jinglesNotice something here? You can get a jingle from tons of people for like $15. $50 will open you up to most of them. "OH NOOO they are asking fans to do something THAT COULD HAVE COST THEM $15 REEEEEEEEE" you have got to be fucking joking, it's grasping for straws more than a fast food worker during lunch hour rush.
>>56832568not just permisions>>56832517its due to the update when it comes to niji fanart since that update only covers art that was made after the announcment
>>56832375>THIS ISNT THE ARGUMENT RETARD.Argument? There's no argument. Everyone's just having a good time laughing at Joshua and (You) kek
>>56832504sure
>>56832375>fucking matsuri's bank account once got maxed out.That was her credit card you fucking retard. You can't "max out" a bank account lmao
>>56832375>fucking matsuri's bank account once got maxed outwhat the fuck does this mean? the jews who make big money never "max out" their bank account, why would a bank want people to stop giving them money?
>>56832367Just another case of a faggot who never watch any hololive at all. In other word, a clout chaser/grifter.
OP(Joshua) and the seething nijiniggerkun on cooldown are having a field day. Probably the most attention they’ve gotten all year
>>56832061dance you fuckin monkey, dance!
give this fucking suffering finn some alms alms for the poor anybody?
>>56832624it's as if you completely missed the fucking point of involving their fans
>>56832544There's plenty of group fanart, but she can't use it in a potentially-monetized song cover without the artist permission.
>>56832597Imagine pretending to be an oldfag but get triggered by the word trannyCope and seethe troon, you'll never be a woman and fwmc did nothing wrong
>>56832479The only ones seething in here are those angry over FuwaMoco asking their fans to create a 10 second jingle for them if they want to. The rest is just calling out how retarded the ones seething over this are. But whatever helps you sleep at night, sister.
>>56831634https://cover-corp.com/en/reportIt doesn't matter. I already sent it to Cover.
Thanks Josh you will now join the hall of retards /vt/ laughs at fondly.
>>56832661what point. there is no fucking point. if the fans want to do a little something nice for them that could have made them $15 they can. that's all it is. trying to cast it as some exploitative thing is hogwash.
I fucking love you guys. This gibbering, screaming mass of mega-retards and brown tribalfolk. I should go to threads like this more often.
>>56832224so this joshua faggot offered to make them a 10 second jingle for $5000 and they told him to "go baubau himself" fuck i love these dogs
>>56831120Is IRyS yab done? Is this the new one?
>>56832415>signed poster with depreciating collectors valueid honestly rather do it for free
>>56832367A starving artist can eat that poster!
>>56832465No nijifans complained about it tho, it was only holofaggots here shitting on her for it.
>>56832670NTA, but the only election tourists who tranny as a catch all insult. Nigger or faggot has always been this site's goto default insult
FuwaMoco own me money (also sex)
>>56832614Fuwamoco can't even afford a poster to sign and send to the winner. Please understand.
>mori asked this guy to make this retarded tweet to deflect from the irys yabbased or cringe?
>>56832689ah sorry I misinterpreted your post, my bad
>>56832614>winner work will get feature on all future streamYea it totally different right, but then again this is hololive, we don't play by your rule.
>>56832703IRyS yab became boring all of the sudden, But this one is delicious
Looks like this is the only thing Joshua produced for Calli https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1620829255453257730And I'm super sure I remember Kay Yu saying he did the animation for free, because he wanted to.
>>56832498>proudly proclaims he's a threadreader.
>>56832706A child in Africa could have used that poster to hunt wildebeests!
>>56832375Idk about you but getting exclusively featured on Fuwamocos channel would be a big deal for me as an artist. It’s not like I put my life work into this, it’s a simple jingle, you don’t have to be so dramatic about this
>>56831120Also protip you really shouldnt link most of your work accounts and emails with your personal emails while trying to post it here
>>56832224>guy works for 49 minutes on his 10 second jingle>sends it in anonymously while asking for $5000>fwmc piss on his offer>he explodesGrim.
Explain to me how donating some art to them is different to sending a superchat? Because if you take issue with one it seems to me you should take issue with their main income being donations from people who want recognition, it's the same thing.
>>56831567>he is rightfully attacking rich people>>56831886>THEY GOT PAID BY COVER FOR MONTHS NOW>SOON THEY WILL HAVE THEIR SUPERCHAT MONEY>THEY CAN PAY FOR IT NIGGER>>56832479>Actually fucking seething because someone calls out a multi millionaire corpo'swhy are communists like this?
>>56831760why is that the issue?
I'm just happy that I'm a developer. At least my "industry" isn't so soulless and short-sighted that everything either has to revolve around money or "hurt the industry"
>>56832654>>56832655You’re saying that as if that tankie has any idea how money works
>>56832375contestnouncon·test ˈkän-ˌtest 1: a struggle for superiority or victory : COMPETITIONa football contest between rival teams2: a competition in which each contestant performs without direct contact with or interference from competitorsHe won the contest for best photograph.Credits: Merriam-Webster. And you're still a fucking tool, joshua.
love the tranny producers seething when fans do it for free
>>56831120Holobass moment kek
>>56832375Id honestly have the exposure in the channel than the poster since thats gonna help me way more
>>56832774>I'm a developer>my "industry" isn't so soulless and short-sighted that everything either has to revolve around money lol?
>>56831772>>56831810Kek. He only did 15 seconds of work? I guess that's why he is upset about this 10 second contest
>you have money and thus you must spend it on things you can get for freeDoes he expect anyone who makes over 100k to start paying for air too? Is he implying anyone who doesn't have money shouldn't have to pay for anything? What would be the point of money in that case, if you get the same things that people who actually pay do? What about saving money? We shouldn't be allowed to save money because if we have it we need to spend it on things that are usually free? Does he even know what fanart is?
>>56831356Unironically this the girl who submitted a remix for callis contest is now a vtuber that is composing songs for other vtubers and even collabing with them
>>56832614Just get good. https://youtu.be/dAyw_7eroCg?si=VpmPQdvMk5NoUD3W
>>56832224This is what happened now. Sorry nobody cares about your sorry jingle Joshua.
>>56832788holy fuck remember this retard?god damn he was the fucking king for a whiledumb bitch
>Nijisanji charge people for collab fee is totally okay>Hololive getting free fan submission is notLook at yourself in the mirror, nijiniggers
>>56832703IRyS yab was weak to begin with (with it being sponsored stream and all), and it stopped being a big deal after Lui's statement.This isn't a big deal either. I just wonder when there can be some new, juicy Holoyab again
>>56832624This is why you will never be big like kanauru.
>>56832722>brushing off the rightful calling out of troons as the work of "election tourists"People can add to the lexicon dumbass, it's not just blacks and fags forever
>>56832349Hello joshua
>>56832809That's pretty cool, the grind as an indie is hard as hell.
The funny thing is the winner will probably get an acrylic stand or something that was planned from the start and just not advertised so they only get the passionate fans, and fartsniffer in OP will look into the mirror like hes batman.
>>56831120what's the problem exactly? they didn't force anyone, it's all voluntarily
>>56832418*washes my butthole with your face after taking a fat stinky ogre shit*
>>56832788>Joshua is possessed by Holobass' spirit
I don't hold the door open for someone unless I get cash in hand
>>56832752In those 2 cases - yes.I don't like Moris humor and I've simply not gotten around to watching the twins now they've came back. I have a hard rule of not watching until a month has passed so people have time to get over their dumb forced OTT kayfabe moments from debut and settle in, they are no exception even if I watched GGN regularly.
its beautiful how every now and then we can all come together to laugh at someone else instead of fighting with each other
>>56832788this guy could've been working on Ame's sweatshop but he went full retard
you can get both recognition and compensation. It's not one or the other.
Well Shieeet I made a drawing for a rock for bijou and didn't get paid!?!? Damn thank you Josh for telling me about my artistic right, my fellow beautiful human being!
>>56832219Look at the holodrones mass replying to this.It's like they have a sliver of self-awareness to realize their colossal hypocrisy, but not enough to actually admit it.Hololive is a literal dogshit cult, I don't understand what kind life experience you need (or lack) to be like this. This shit is borderline brainwashing.
>>56832375Well you see Joshy boy, they are cute dogs who are loved by many people. As such, they deserve to get free shit from those people. You on the other hand, are a miserable tranny who doesn't deserve shit. Just the way the world works, sorry not sorry.
>>56832224Actually believable rrat. It's hard to rationalize the retard's outburst otherwise.
>>56832788whatever happened to this retardGOD. and wasn't his shit stolen from other sources to begin with?
137 postersare you guys really?
>>56832719Yea sure thing, mysta didn't get harras by nijifan, it must be those holofan right. Same with reimu, vox, luca and most of them.
>>56832703The Bijou yab was the most retarded thing I've seen used as an attack in months.
>>56831686they want her to use her giant mori cock to slap her name out of his profile
>>56832886>Anon is a bellhop
>>56832692Why not tweet what joshua said so that we can have another lively thread, expect this time we'll laugh at you KEK
Mogged by Kay Yu
>>56832810Yes he is, because he’s a dumbfuck communist who I can’t believe still exists in places like this when streaming has been a common thing for over a decade now. This guy has such massive cognitive dissonance it must almost make his head explode
>>56831120Actual mental illnessPeople like this should be segregated into their own dystopian community where they all have to pay each other for the most basic of favours
>>56832919Yes, we are really.
>>56832907take the hint, Joshuaseething when getting dogpiled is not a good look
>>56832919We are keeping this up so someone crazy enough goes Columbine on his ass
>>56832907NIJISEETHE
>>56832904the motivations differ. in this case, fwmc would feature a different jingle each time making it so the created content not strictly tied to their brand.
>>56831207he refers to Holo corpThe least they can do is help their talentSPECIALLy as Idol reveal their stuff so the standar is SET
>>56832907Stop seething Joshua. You're embarrassing yourself.
>>56831120and another one joins Yagoo's blacklist
>>56832907just delete the xeet, joshua.
>>56832920If Nijifans wanted to harass Pomu about it, they would have done it on twitter, in her stream chat, in her stream comments, or via superchat/streamlabs, not contained to /vt/ - Hololive General
>>56832918tried to make a new channel without holo stufflast i checked his numbers was pretty abysmal
>>56832907You have no impact on society and never will. Lmao it’s not that deep bro chill out
>>56832907Keep digging your grave joshuaThe blacklist is coming for you soon enough
>>56832444if you ask for a service from someone that is not your friend, you should pay that person. Its not a hard concept.>>56832467fans are not your friends. Dont exploit your fanbase for free shit>>56832494sure they deserve free shit but what they portray is that they dont think their fans and creators deserve to be paid for their service>>56832499they have money, they can pay for it. they should pay for it instead of expecting free shit from people, like entitled bitches>>56832524> If I want to make shit for free for a person I like I will do it and I won't demand any payment for it.the problem again: THEY ASK FOR FREE SHIT BECAUSE THEY DONT THINK PEOPLE DESERVE TO GET PAID AND IT IS ENOUGH PAYMENT TO WORK FOR THEM. its a shit mentality they have and they should fix that asap.>>56832600they just have an option to pay for a service they asked for bro, its not hard>>56832746paying in exposure is jewish shit and they are rightfully criticized for it.>>56832755why not both?>>56832796now do that mental gymnastics again with coca cola asking you to do a free jingle and see how retarded you sound
nani?
>>56832907It’s called having fans Joshua, not that you would know anything about it
>>56832907this is why no one likes you Joshua
>>56832919yeah they're all in love with mei'm joshua btw
>the absolute state of Joshua malding ITT
>>56833047So I take it your VA career isn't doing so well?
>>56832907Delete the tween Joshua and this can all end before you get even more humiliated
>>56833050he did official work for Holo, A-Chan is Holo project director
>>56831120All the drama over Selen's contest and then Hololive turns around and does the exact same thing.Pitiful. The entire Hololive fanbase is full of hypocrites.
So, why does everyone assume you won't get paid/ any benefits again? Don't tell me Joshua tried to jump the que, would do it if he got paid, but Cover rejected him :^)
>>56833047Nobody but you cares about this, Joshua
>>56833047KWAB
HOLOSEETHE>HOLOSEETHEHOLOSEETHE>HOLOSEETHEHOLOSEETHE>HOLOSEETHE
>>56832889>https://twitter.com/fuwamoco_en/status/1692044119777104053you are lying out of your teeth to create drama.
>>56831120God, the cringe is killing me.
>>56832923They've been pretty desperate lately.
STOP INTERACTING WITH YOUR FANS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
They will probably make it a stream no? With 10k+ viewers no? And holos always credit the artist's so saying they won't be credited is beyond retarded your stuff is getting advertised in front of hundreds of thousands of people that will later watch the vod many of whom will be other vtubers which might commission you, all for a 10 seccond jingle.
>>56833047>why not bothAre you really such a greedy bastard that you need a payment for lifting a finger? Also again, do you also have a problem with fanart requests, which vtubers do all the time?
I unironically believe the guy who made the tweet posted it here and tried to bring mori into it because he thought it would make himself look good but it turns out hes so stupid that even the catalogniggers hate him more than they hate mori
>>56832402Holy shit, didn't expect to hear that subhuman's name here in 2023. Did they actually? If yes, then I'm dropping them. Anyone associating with that criminal is trash.
>>56833017What makes you think they aren't /here/ as well?
>>56833047I'll gladly so work for coca cola for free as long as i know that i can make you seethe eternally joshua KEK
>>56831120Actual Nijisanji fan here…I’m with the holobronies on this one, this generation is soft af. Entitled ass They/Thembabies
>>56833108HOLO BOARDHOLO THREAD HOLO SEETHE
>fwmc are so caring and sensitive that they will probably put this in a misunderstanding corner and apologize to the guyfucking asshole
You have to pay to advertise yourself. Now there is this chance of being featured by a well known channel with 10k people watching every stream for freeHow is this a bad thing?
>>56833094THE TERMS OF THE CONTRACT NEED TO BE STATED CLEARLY. I DONT CARE IF ITS A "FUN CONTEST"
>>56833047If someone asked me for a service, and I actually wanted to perform it for them, I'd do it without expecting compensation. This is, somehow, an extremely difficult concept for you to grasp, joshua. Are you being force-fed stupid pills on a daily basis?
>>56833086Nice cope, cuck.But back in reality, she simply likes his opinions.
>>56833047Joshua, your damage control isn't going to save you from Mori dumping your ass, what a retard.
LET'S SHOOT FOR 600 POSTS
>>56833158the dude is a nobody and the tweet has no traction outside of /here/
>>56833150literal cuck mentality KEK
>I-I'm not seething, you are!>mass replying on cooldown
>>56833172Of course you don’t, you’re so hollow inside you don’t even know what fun is
>>56833133no, it's actually one of the people who hate Mori even bringing it up in the first place since it's easy to smear Mori through associationif people brought up every mid-level artist that had some shitty opinion about something Holo/vtuber related, the threads would sweep the entire catalog
>>56833123this, fuwamoco don't hide who is tweeting what in their Doggie of the Day announcements, they are fine with fans being entities and aren't going to just start using it without saying a word. they can make it a whole stream and go through like a top 20 jingles if they wanted just for engagement and to give more free exposure.the average jingle writer having like 10,000 people see his name and being credited for at least having written a good jingle will probably get him more extra work than anything but an overpaid-sum prize from fuwamoco since a jingle is in reality literally worth like $15 on fiverr.
>>56833047Bro, dunno how to tell you this but demanding to be paid for fanwork is just as fucking jewish. Your brain is mixing up "fanwork" and "a paid job" for some reason.
>>56833199i hope so.
>>56833123NO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THEY HAVE TO GET PAID FOR IT BECAUSE THIS TWITTER ARTIST SAID SO AND ANYONE WHO DISAGREES IS A HOLODRONE AAAAAIIIIEEEE REEEEEEEEEEEEEYes you're right
>>56833180>This is, somehow, an extremely difficult concept for you to grasp,THE PROBLEM ISNT YOU DOING SHIT FOR FREETHE PROBLEM IS THEM EXPECTING FREE SHITeven after I repeat this a lot you fucking retards cannot grasp this
>>56832907Calm down joshua, it's just a 10s jingle jangle
>>56833163Getting featured in the stream with 10k bots ain't worth much, buddy.
Post like this will not only put him on the blacklist, more people will be riled up to submit content
>>56833172soulless capitalist mindset
>>56833236>expectingasking
>>56833195damn, that's alot of posts from one person /here/
>>56833123in the end, it's the execution that matters. if fwmc sees it, they will surely do their best to credit and compensate whoever created the jingle they selected and announce it publicly.
This is a thread where I would really appreciate visible IDs, I bet every single of those anti posts is from that same guy
>>56833265HE CAN DO IT, I BELIEVE IN HIM
>>56833236tell me, are you aware of a game called Holocure? are you aware all of Hololive plays it without paying the dev? are you aware some of them are even making requests from the dev to be done for free? you've got your work cut out for you buddy.
>>56833269I'm also curious how many samefags have tried to Drag Mori into this.
>>56833269Thread IDs would be so helpful, which is precisely why they don't do it.
>>56833205Dumbass i'll do work if it meant i can troll someone till the end of timebut ofc you wouldnt know shit about work would you joshie KEK
>>56833236They're asking for fan submissions. Fans who want to do it, can do so, knowing they're likely to only get exposure for their work. The girls were very clear about that when they made that tweet. So, indubitably, you are the retarded moron here.
>>56833287The Virgin Joshua, the Giga Chad Kay Yu
>>56833236>THE PROBLEMOk, what is the problem with that? You still haven’t explained
>>56833123You do realize that you could bring up this argument for everything they do on stream so they wouldn't need to pay for any commission because of exposure and crediting the artist.
>>56833236I'm sorry your life shaped you this way
>>56833047>paying in exposure is jewish shit and they are rightfully criticized for it.Why don't you talk to kay yu too you faggot, tell him he a Jewish culture enabler for doing hololive game for free.
>nijiniggers don't know how much Hololive exposure actually worthCan't really blame them when their beloved company is only known for being a black company
>>56833241>more people will be riled up to submit contentThat's the best part. Joshua will be seething impotently while FuwaMoco happily listen to all the fan made jingles on stream.
>>56833119THAT'S ILLEGAL, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO ONLY INTERACT WITH YOUR CORPO FAMILY AAAIIIEEEEEEEEE
I call this song who rustled Joshua's jimmies
>>56833240I end up following the artists that get used for thumbnails if I like their work, and I'm sure I'm not the only one
>>56833110>i'm lying about not having standards and not caring about a persona that will be dropped in a month on average based on everyone else in the past of vtubing historylol okay thenAlso that settles it then, there is no hate.See how easy that was? You could have posted this first but you chose to be an asshat.I don't care if they get on or not. It's not my friendships or business relationships, why the fuck would I care? I'm not female.
>>56833191This is the funniest thing about it all.All hes done is sealed himself off of getting any more work from any of the girls. Mori is not going to look kindly to someone shittalking her friends.
>>56833236>EXPECTINGNo anon they are asking and you have the choice of not doing it. There is a difference between the words asking and expecting.
>>56833236HOLY SHIT MAN WHY U SO MAD , CAN JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP AND DONT SUBMIT YOUR JINGLE IS THAT REALLY HARD FOR YOU
Joshua = JewKay = Christ
>>56833213THIS SO MUCH, how can anyone get salty over the equivalent of $15 of work. But instead the narrative became, o, you are so successful, if you pay me $300 I'll make a 10 second jingle. FUUUCCKK OFFFF!
>>56833163It's still leeching. The fact this comes from a major corpo that can be listed in Forbes is fucking revolting.Holobeggars gonna beggar. And Holodrones will defend this behavior.
>>56833236If the fans are fine with it, what is the actual issue? I submitted mine
>>56833372bro... do you know what the jew did to christ?
>>56833214this isnt "fanwork". They are asking for a new piece of art, not based on existing ones, to use for themselves.This is not FANART of them, this is A NEW AND ORIGINAL PIECE OF WORK they ask for and EXPECT TO GET IT FOR FREE>>56833250>>56833359>>56833389the reason why they did not mention money is because they expect it for free. if they were simply asking for it they would add that some form of compensation would be available for peoples work>>56833287Are you aware of the entire fucking conversation you retarded mongoloid unable to read idiot?>>56833327same retarded retard. Holocure was already mentioned in the thread but you are unable to read.>>56833310expecting people to work for free because you are their idol, is a fucking retarded way of thinking and this little incident clearly showcases just how little they think of ruffians if they dont even want to pay them for work
>>56833372We need to make this a trifecta, who's the Muslim/Mohammad?
>>56833236THE PROBLEM IS YOU EXPECTING PEOPLE TO AGREE WITH YOUR RETARDATION HUHEHEHEHE
>hololive success has lead to another episode of massive seething from all other corpokeksI'm getting bored of constant win
Money = Used in exchange for goods and servicesAsking for a service to be performed = money should be exchangedSorry if this is CONTROVERSIAL
>>56833351>I'm not femaleWe already know, and you never will be
>>56833327>HE DOES IT>FOR>FREEhe's basically a janny!
>complaining this much over a 10 second jingle.Not everyone is obsessed with money bro.
>>56833401Step away from the keyboard for a bit and take a walk, Joshua
>>56831120some people pay hundreds of dollars for 30 seconds of attention from subpar women dressed as anime girls.some people made a fully functional game and released it for free because they loved the brand.if you become one of the 'special people' cherished by the masses, then your presence itself becomes a valuable, marketable resource.in this case, some people are paying in their musical contribution, instead of actual dollars, for those special people's attention and acknowledgement. why would anyone be surprised by this?
>>56833401Hehe
we love joshua here
Didn't this guy had a meltdown before and burned bridges with Hololive? I forgot what happened
>>56833401calm down joshua
>>56833416I wouldn't want to be.
>>56833381>I easily make a quarter million dollars a year, please work for me for free, lot of useful idiots!Get your morality checked
>>56833236I will gladly devote my time for Fuwamoco because they're great. You should really just neck yourself you failed abortion
>>56833401Gura should do the exact same thing fwmc did just to make you cry more faggotI know you're /here/ gooba, make it happen!
>>56833401>They are asking for a new piece of art, not based on existing onesYou’re telling me all fanart is based on existing ones?? If you draw a picture of the Empire State Building it’s still your own creation fully.>bending so much that he ends up insulting other artistsKek
this amount of sheeeth aah aah aaah
I like black man clapping their chicks.
whats the difference with this?
welp show's over.
Joshua seethed a bit too hard it seems
They've already gotten many jingles that fans happily made for them because they love the dogs. Now seethe even more faggots.
does joshy boy not understand that people like making things? I keep a folder with all the likes/comments I get from holos/artists I like and its worth more than any one time fee
Did you know Joshua? That Mori did a whole animated intro for Kiara during the early days, and she didn't ask for any penny for it?
>>56833401>the reason why they did not mention money is because they expect it for freeYeah, everyone that submitted something know that.
>>56833401>Ruffians we’ll be looking forward to your submissions!>THIS REALLY SHOWS HOW LITTLE THEY CARE ABOUT THEIR FANS CANT YOU SEE??!!?!!?!!?!Kill yourself, you deserve no love, no life, nothing
>>56833412It's fine for any vtuber to ask for fan works to be used on stream on in projects. Doesn't matter if they are Holo, Niji, Phase, Idol, Indie, whoever. Just don't be a hypocrite and shit on one vtuber for doing it but praise another vtuber for doing the exact same thing.
>>56833414i'm not paying money for you to fart on me anon
>>56833488Nijisanji badHololive good
at the end of the day you're no worse that corpos exploiting kids Joshua you absolute souless idiot
>>56833488Oh I remember that one. Selene wanting to give compensation, but KoroSanji said no
>>56833458I knew your shitty writing style would attract your attention, a Jingle isn't going to sell fucking cars, their intention is for a Morning Radio theme show. It's a fan project to generate hype, seethe more you blood sucking untalented dumbass.
>>56831120Way to ruin your career.
>deletedpay attention Josh. this is the power of someone who does it for free
>>56833488the same critique may be applied. selen is probably not popular enough to catch his attention.
>>56833488Selen is a wimp and caved to twitterfaggots too easily.
>>56833488The main problem is nijisanji taking ownership of the design the moment you submit it, FWMC might use the winning jingle in there streams but it dosent become their copyright and a lot more work goes into making a 2d design over a 10 second jingle
>>56833401JOSHUA STOPYOU'RE GONNA MORB OUT AT THIS RATE>he got bannedoh, what a shame. His seething was good entertainment
>>56833458You were never loved as a kid so it makes sense why you can't understand what labor of love means
>deletedwhat a bitch boy
>obvious Niji vs Holo baitingOf course it's BVTM and his goons.
I don't want to blame Mori. She can't read the minds of the mentally ill. But I fear there will be more stringent screening with who any one Holo works with going forward.
imagine getting mad over a fucking unpaid jingle
>>56832866He may be a fucking skin crawling unitybeggar faggot but you can't deny his clout and connections. This bitch on the other hand is gonna be blacklisted fr.
>>56833563a lot of the arguments hinges on a lot of things that haven't happened yet.
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>>56833488>whats the difference with this?difference is that nijisanji will have the rights to take your design and use it on merch
Fan-made songs and Intros are better than what any paid cunt producer can shit out. They are downright iconic in some cases.
>>56833508Nobody ever questioned mori retardation. It's a fact.
why doesnt zun pay them?
YEAHHH WE ARE AT 160 POSTERS BABY
>>56833584I would instantly forgive mori for literally everything if she calls this dumbass out on his shit
Feels like /vt/ did some good today, and got rid of a real piece of human waste.
>>56832871This brat giving 35$ steam gift card too for the winner of her contest lol.
>>56833584This isn't the first time mori's circle brought trouble to hololiveThank god gura is #1 and not mori
More and more, artists of all types who made/try to make it their livelihood become consumed by the grind, and end up contributing towards the continuous drain of passion and creation for the sake of creation, slowly turning it into nothing more but a soulless service where you pump out slop for peanuts and view everything through a cynical lens of $$$. This is why they're simultaneously so afraid of and arrogant towards shit like AI; an infinite slop generator leaves them with nothing but their own devalued slop, and they don't want to wrestle with the notion that no real talent or creativity or love for art exists within them. Eventually people like OP will be made completely redundant, seething as they flip hamburgers, while others continue happily drawing art and creating stupid little 10 second jingles for their oshi who inspires them.
>>56833574>>56833604Janny got no chill, just because he made fun of people working for free...
>>56833589Report it to cover. Including the link to Mori's tweet, the OG tweet and an archive.
>>56833586NOOOO IT IS 15-50 DOLLARS OF WORK THEY A RIPPING PEOPLE OFFmeanwhile: Fan art that would costs 300+ dollars gets used for free in thumbnails every day.Music niggers will never understand the power of people of who draw cute girls
>>56833532I would pay good money for a chuuba to fart on me.
No (he) got deleted, now we'll never reach +600 posts...
>>56832907Hololive board.Hololive thread.Are you getting some kind of masochistic pleasure from getting BTFO'd or are you actually retarded?
Joshua. abandon your marxist ideals and become a good person. you can do it.
>>56833611>Mori did something nice for a genmate/friend>She is retarded for this??????????
>>56831120Based take. Free stuffs are le bad. All streams should be paywalled and members only.
>>56833567Project harder imbecile.An actual generous person would commission stuff to help creators instead of begging for it
>>56833542Holy shit
>>56833584From what I see the guy didn't do much for her song dozens of people can work on them and mori is probably working on multiple songs at the same time it's retarded to think she can do a background cheak on every single person she works with.
>>56833542kek
>>56833634>Janny got no chill, just because he made fun of people working for free...He was retarded who ran off to # and wanted their support but accidentally replied to one of the doxx honeytraps that gets posted in the board specifically a kobo one
>>56833542Fucking lol
Is this actually more retarded than that Marine artist one?
>https://twitter.com/atelierjoshua/status/1694645036225282056Joshua please, you really are going to get blacklisted...
>>56833542fucking destroyed
>>56833542KEK
>>56833694>dragging mori into this kek what a retard
>>56833542LMAO
>>56833653Mori hate boner is so strong, all the blood flow into the dick and none goes to the brain
>>56833694it's over...
>>56833584Yeah this is one of those situations where even Mori isn't in the wrong. You can't plan for people to randomly chimp out and bite the hand that fed them. Unless there is some evidence they knew each other for a long time, she's 100% in the clear on this. Far as I can tell she just commissioned him at random and only for one thing. So it's not like she had a deep understanding of his psyche or some shit.
Remember Holo Bass, that Pops on Rocks guy from way back when? This is why Kanauru is used so much. You find the fairly stable people that can do the work, and you stick with them.
>>56833675not to mention probably at least one person at cover management tries to help her out if they can since Mori's UMG label is kind of a big deal and Cover has an incentive to try to keep her supported well since her songs get played on the radio in Japan and shit hence makes them money. in other words it's possible some people are/were just references mori herself simply took on someone elses' good word sometimes and/or did a very very brief review of before using.
>>56833694Jesus christ he just guaranteed a blacklist kek.
>>56833660>insults the jannies of 4chan who do shit for free>also doesnt deny he was unlovedLol you're so pathetic, labor of love will forever elude you
>600 postsyou just know joshua is posting here
>>56831120>Absolute retard bites the hand that feeds him once he gets his foot in the doorLike pottery
>>56833621Because Zun is a poorfag with self respect who didn't whore his creations to make it corporate garbage, Zun even refused Touhou to get a TV licensed anime. He makes his games for the love of the art.This is why Yagoo will NEVER be a fraction of what Zun is.
>>56833694NEXT OP
>>56833542Sometimes the Jannies can be cool, what a love hate relationship we weave
>>56833694lmao, what a fucking idiot.
>>56833694he really is gonna do this lmao
>>56833694fucking retard doesn't even begin to understand what being professional means, kek
>>56833694he is kinda based for going all in on the retardation
juuuuust a little hunch Joshua, but I have a feeling Mori will side with Fuwamoco over you
>>56831120When this post was made, the tweet had like 10 likes. It was invisible. You've ironically turned it into a shitstorm by calling out this Joshua idiot
>>56833694>All HoloEN creators should follow her exa-
>>56833542nice
>>56833694>"someone" gets banned ITT epic style>only minutes later, joshua mysteriously resurfaces on twitter ... and just immediately continues his passive-aggressive bitching @the worldJesas was that really him? This is a fucking diamond-grade KWAB if I've ever seen one holy shit.
>>56833840that was the point
>>56831120Didn't PewDiePie used to do it too?
>>56833836Why? She doesn't care about hololive
>>56833848OH NO NO NO JOSHUA
>>56833694>doubles downi think he might be a 4channeler you guys....
>>56833694Archive: https://archive.is/gC1ouI hope Mori doesn't do anything public, despite probably feeling a strong urge to torch him. Just cut all contact and move on.
>>56833840We did it red- I mean, /vt/!
>>56832868No I think we should stick to nigger, faggot and for you specifically, election tourist. Less is more
>>56833694NO BRAKES ON THE STUPID TRAIN
>>56833854Holy kek
https://twitter.com/atelierjoshua/status/1694648012956410021maybe get a real job Joshuachama......
>>56831120He also wants fanarts Holos use on thumbnails to be paid for too. So yeah he's pretty fucking retarded.
there was no reason to have this retards post blow upthis is literally a raid you liked it
>>56833775Do you think he is smart enough to go around a ban?
>>56833854Kek, he tweeted within a minute of getting banned. It really was him. How does a frail, artsy faggot like him even know of this place?
>>56831120Ina's fans put her on a billboard of their own volition, Joshua. That's what being an idol is about. Holocure is a fanmade game.The fans get together to do these things because THEY WANT TO. We got ourselves a silly billy.
>>56833840>You've ironically turned it into a shitstorm by calling out this Joshua idiotGlorious ain't it?
>>56833911"professional" going full retard on a srpska kebab forum. Fucking kek
>>56833879Nah troon and tranny just rolls off the tongue more, so 4chan will stick with it. So get fucked troon KEK
>>56833911>le 4chan is secretSeriously, where do you kids come from?This shithole had several fucking anime convention panels from 2004 onwards.This shithole has never been secret. In any capacity. This place was posted all over Myspace forums on the regular.
>>56833840Maybe don't tweet stupid shit, Josh.
>>56833694I am /vt/s weakest soldier. It was nice to bait that fucking finn into doing something retarded
>>56833956Hi Joshua. You shouldn't ban evade.
I'm sure Mori appreciates you dragging her name into this, Joshua.
>>56833993I'm laughing at Joshua as well, you fucking newfag.
>>56832703>Is IRyS yab done? Yeah, Not a big deal tho since it ended pretty quickly
>>56833956Chill anon, it's the go to opening line for gate keeping.
>>56833984you're a based faggot anon.
>>56833840Why do you think Joshua posted it here?
>>56831120true professionals don't post their controversial opinions and argue with people on work account, fucking retard
>>56833956What I'm questioning is how was this unknown twink's first thought to go to the Virtual YouTubers board on 4channel.org to stir shit up or whatever it is he wanted to accomplish.
>>56833956>MyspaceAh yes, it’s in the public perception today because of the popular social media site myspace
>>56834034But it already never worked. It never DOES work, that's the point. Also, holy FUCK I made the mistake of looking through the rest of his Twitter.This guy is pretentious as fuck.I'm dying.
fun thread before going to sleep, thanks joshua
666 posts lmao
>>56831766Selen didn't get any blowback until it was revealed that any fan submissions for that particular contest could be used by Anycolor free of charge and they would own that artwork from then on.Fuwamoco's little thing doesn't have any involvement from Cover, it's literally a voluntary fan contest. If you're not a fan, you can shut the fuck up with trying to police fan behavior.
>>56834095YOU RUINED IT
>>5683404098% chance /lgbt/ lurker, entitled typing styles and attention whore
>>56834067I find it fascinating how you can discern a person's entire personality, likes, thoughts, opinions and general interests just from an absolute shit take like that. I was going through his stuff going "Yup" the entire time.
>>56834062A classic sign of having a low IQ is not being able to tell the significance a thing use to have because it has no significance now.That said thing could never have influenced anything in the future because it is in the past.Do your homework.
>>56834055I mean maybe he knows there are a lot of people here who love to argue in bad faith if it means trying to sling mud on Hololive so figured he could find an audience for a fringe opinion. Instead he just started raging when like 90% of anons disagreed with him that it's a big deal even here.
>>56834055He still believes 4chan is the assholes of the Internet, willing to destroy whatever people post on its decadent halls
>someone was asking about>"don't bite the hand that feeds you when it's holding a knife."Now we know.
>>56833848Is there a page or post listing all the winners for the Sinderella artwork competition?
>>56833984And I thought all Finns were based
>>56834105This. And there's a world of fucking difference between asking for a professional design and a silly jingle that I could shart out in a few minutes
I guess Cover should pay me for every fanart I did of the hololive members. Also lol what the hell.
>>56834137and knowing is half the buttle.......
>Made a 1 minute intro, for the least famous Holo branch.>Oshi used it for 2 years, FOR FREE.>Got the chance to work on two of his Oshi music covers. With 3+ mill view.
>>56834152All me, every post
>>56834142she did a stream looking at them, might be a link in the description or intro/outro of the stream
>>56834117But it’s true, it might not have "no" significance but the tiktok zoomers of today sure as hell don’t know of 4chan because of fucking myspace, get a grip
God, I hope Mori keeps her mouth shut over this whole issue.I don't want my sweet Morpi to get into any shit over this. She's already suffered enough
>>56834188I hope she jumps all over it for the exact same reasons
>>56834158the other half is violence
>>56834188We will know if she changes her intro screen
>>56834188Hey she has a chance to dunk on a hater, hope she qrts and says that she expects payment for using her name in the bio
>>56834177NTA but there's a decent chance the zoomer's parents do. Once the word gets out on something it stays out.
>>56834188it's a nothing burger. you sensitive redditors are even more cringe than joshua.
>>56834188I do, I want her to put that fucking faggot into his place. Getting called out by mori would maybe make him wake the fuck up
>>56834177Not that it was the point in the slightest, but the point was that people talk. Case in point, this whole thread because of one person seeing a tweet by chance.Entire memes have spread without internet across whole continents.
>>56834137>>56834158>>56834201>This is "Q", but for real.
>>56833694>/vt/'s favorite reddit schizo Diego actually being reasonable on the commentswhat a bizarre world.
>>56834188don't worry, it'll be in the lyrics in a future song
>>56834176Cool, thanks bro.
>>56834188normally I dont want her to own the haters but I feel like its pretty safe in this situation, even this catalog thread is pro-mori which is something I dont think ive ever seen
>>56832806There are shit ton of free, open-sourced software around, anon. Keep in mind the>everythingbit.
>>56834152my fridge in my basement did it all
>>56831120>fan submission contest>"You should get money and licensing involved REEEEEEEE"Why is he trying to bring twins down when his issues are obviously with Mori?
>>56834225but i was making a gi joe reference...
>>56834150She wasnt asking for professional L2D art, just a rough design to get an idea across.
>>56834188I hope she shits on him.
>>56832544she complained about not being in Lazulight fanarts about a year ago.not much has changed since then, and if anything Finana has just continued to bleed her audience.
>>56834212Idk, internet is something you explore yourself for the most part.
>>56833400Moom
For posterity
>>56834292good. glad that stupid cunt finally got her come uppance and hopefully graduates soon.
>>56834222Yeah people talk, but that was as static flow of information once, it doesn’t hold significance with new people what was said on forums 20 years ago if that is not communicated further. Sure, in a way everything is connected but that’s such a broad argument to make and way too indirect
Joshua we will forgive you, but you must atone.All of EN will now take turns lashing you onstream.
>>56834188she really doesn't have to say anything about it, why would she? she'd only aim a giant laser pointer at a nothingburger. if she unfollows him that'd be a very loud and clear telegraph she didn't like getting dragged into it especially since she specifically likes Fuwamoco and I would assume, wouldn't like seeing this guy rag on them.
>>56834301he should lay off the vodka and learn swedish so he becomes civilized. we try to beat that language into them during their whole education system but they refuse to learn and keep being savages
>>56834301best thread in a long time
>>56834338All it takes is a bigger brother mentioning it to someone, or browsing while they are around.Or even a parent.Kids aren't stupid.
>>56834301>Joshua trying this hard to desperately comvince people on a Uzbekistanian rug weaving
>>56834165he ended up working for some HoloEN, too
>>56834301jesas what an ESL freak
>>56831987Every transsexual is a narcissist. It's a requirement.
>>56834301>Joshua trying this hard to desperately convince people on a Uzbekistanian rug weaving forum
>>56834188>mori>missing out on dramalmao
I wish Mori to unfollows this guy and change the jingle she uses for her transformation intro stealthily kek
it's been a good thread, gentleman
>>56833542HOLY KEK MY SIDES
>>56834507Been a good read and break from work.
maybe someone will superchat Mori to ask what she thinks about this issue
>>56834541She probably don't even remember him
>>56834165Is this guy the high tide composer? Which also some HoloEN girl hired occasionally?
>>56832907Joshua...
>>56834567that reaction itself would be worth it
>>56834567That would also be good
>>56834541I will with a throwaway account when she's gonna do a chatting stream next time
>>56834507Very nice thread during EU lunch time
>>56834301Yeah, I agree with him. Time will prove him correct. Oh well.
>>56834301kekked and saved.a certified /vt/ classic fo' sure.
>>56834541>Red super (ARS10) that says "compensation money for Joshua"
>>56834569no the high tide composer is ZSunder, no other Holo work (but they did go on to work for an actual kpop artist)Timothy did work for Council:https://twitter.com/TimothyAlv_/status/1496372786243457029
This thread about to die, someone post another one like this if it died.
>>56834188> Mori> Keeping quiet about anything
>>56834541Arguably her drama with her ACTUAL music producer, Umru (he made the track for Death Sentence), is much worse since it involves doxxing and race bait virtue signaling, yet Mori didn't say one thing about it on her channel. She is not going to waste her breath on some 15sec of fame faggot.
>>56834672there's already one trying to shit on Mori harder because this thread didn't
>>56834672there's already 3 more I'm pretty sure
>>56833840Wait for the dramaniggers to post videos about it. Good riddance Joshoa
Since this thread is dying, no one will know that I like to be creamed in the ass.
>>56834709That fag rev will probably do one
>>56834697i mean, that drama was about Mori herself
>>56834684you gotta mentally matured past 2021, she managed it, you should be able tootherwise it's just embarrassing
>>56833694Oh oh... Mori will either shit on him for this one or wipe whatever he worked on for her kek
LMAO JOSHUA TOOK DOWN HIS TWITTER
What compels a retard like this to basically ruin his chances of a big breakout when he has a feet on the front door already, like even if he is morally correct or something why do it?From Walfie to Kanauru, Ddudul,keenbiscuit,that one korean artists that was commission for the Korean cafes, the talala suichan animation guy, the chick that compose some of the Blue journey stuff.And that's just to name a few.
The funny thing is that mass of deleted posts shares a very similar word choice with Joshua, even though he tried to hide it.
>>56834734Yeah by the nigger duo Jamal and Demarcus
jonipetteri...
>>56834759ego
750 replies eating this joshua fag alive lmao
>>56834734Experiment with dogs faggot. You can get even lower than that
>>56831120Does this person not understand the concept of community and fan competitions for fun?
>>56834833bau bau
>>56834841He is a retard
>>56834757Did he really?
Why is it that people in the libral arts always show themselves to needing a tardwrangler and lacking empathy and the capabilities of seeing the world past their own nose?
>>56834810Rightfully so.Imagine burning bridges over being upset about fan works.
>>56834757what're you talking about? It's still there.
>>56834738takes like 2 seconds for me to shit on her anonI don't care if I'm stuck in 2021, I'm not watching Mori again
>>56834841Virtue signaling twitter faggot is a fucking retard, many such cases.
>>56834877It's a mind virus. Joshua is affected by it too. There's barely any humility or decency left in this world.
>>56834810Shouldn't have poked the hornet's nest. Heck no matter if you're a nijinigger, or phasecuck or indie vtuber, they'll all agree for once this faggot is sniffing his own farts and probably taking note to to hire this man in this industry ever again
>>56834873>>56834907Ah he just blocked me
>>56834886bro only did a 15 sec guitar riff, hes not anything special so burning bridges is giving too much credit lol
>>56834910>I don't care if I'm stuck in 2021Thats fucking sad man
>>56834910coolretard
BAU BAU?BAU BAU!!
>>56834936Even so, foot was in the door. Couldve led to more work in the future.No chance in hell now.
>>56834935kek
>>56834770Yep. Just confirms even further that he was the one to post this thread.
>>56834910>I don't care if I'm stuck in 2021Say this outload and realize how pathetic you sound kek
>>56834877Because they are mental.He's one of those music snobs who hates on anyone doing things the way they want to.He's no different to the programming snobs that argue that their programming language is better than [insert other language] because [reasons].Everyone knows the only bad language is Python.
>>56834963a-chan was following him
>>56834963true kek, what a dumbass
Ei helvetti Joshua :D
Someone should pull the white male privilege living in a 1st world country card on him and see how he reacts
>>56834567>Hey mori this faggot Joshua you’ve worked with attacked Fuwamoco >who?That outcome is fine with me kek
>>56834936The real answer here is "he plays guitar" actually more than anything for his attitude. Oddly, the communities around certain musical instruments seem to select for or otherwise train up people to be fucking douches (guitar players on youtube tend to nitpick each other and rag on someone's posture or pedals etc) and others are very chill and friendly (keyboard/synth players are extremely nice to each other and if someone is showing serious chops playing only gets praised not nitpicked to death by people who want to one-up them).