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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*>https://playboard.co/en/>http://ikioi-ranking.com/>https://vrabi.net/>https://www.vstats.jp>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-rankingHololive sites>https://holo.poi.cat/>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html>https://trackholo.live/en/>https://www.hololive-songs.com/Nijisanji sites>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly>https://twitter.com/2434rankings>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber>https://www.nijiuta.com/Twitch>https://sullygnome.com/>https://twitchtracker.com/>https://stats.roki.sh/Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp
>Don't you guys know how relationships work?Biboo...
I'll go with the uoh OP
https://twitter.com/brnsgobrr/status/1694209104057929785
>>56799741TO THE CATALOG
Numbers has reclined
>>56799691Recent clip numbers>>56758418>>56758454>>56758492>>56758537>>56758595
Aqua is collabing with males too now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjU8kajNjdY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgIix6g08joIt's over.
I was hoping /#/s finally ceased to exist.
>>56799012Yes. The only challenging From game is Sekiro because your power is actually gated behind progress and has a low ceiling, unlike SoulsRing where you can rush for OP weapons/spells in the first 10 minutes that 1-4 shot pretty much everything in the game.
* YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY *>88,387: Pekora (Hololive)>41,918: Toya (Nijisanji)>33,927: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>28,034: Bae (Hololive)>26,757: Koyori (Hololive)>25,178: Chiroru (Indie)>21,406: Yashiro (Nijisanji)>21,174: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)>20,317: Lauren (Nijisanji)>19,704: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>18,596: Okayu (Hololive)>16,942: AZKi (Hololive)>16,409: Okayu (Hololive)>16,383: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>15,856: Fubuki (Hololive)>13,961: Leos (Nijisanji)>12,347: Fubuki (Hololive)>11,954: Lui (Hololive)>11,748: Noel (Hololive)>11,412: NeruMero (Indie)>11,373: Kuramochi Meruto (Nijisanji)>11,172: AZKi (Hololive)>11,109: Hayama Marin (Nijisanji)>11,069: Fuwamoco (Hololive)>10,806: Reid (Neo-Porte)>10,786: Salome (Nijisanji)>10,359: Nerissa (Hololive)>10,214: Saiki Ittetsu (Nijisanji)
>>56799741>used goods
>>56799789Worse part is that she collabed with a niji male which got her harassed because it ruined the kanae kuzuha ship
>>56799789Funnily enough it was the sisters who seethed about a woman ruining their Kanae and Kuzuha collab back then
>no play buttons for achievements>2% rev share>you are done if you dont get inside a cllique>non existent help from management>90% chance of becoming a 3view>fans will harass you and never take your side if you fight the companyRemind me again what's the benefit of joining Nijisanji?
>>56799789This only bothered nijifujos who harassed her lol
>>56799850>AUGUST 2023 GOLDS1) Miko (Hololive) - 148,555 - Anniversary 3D Live2) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 53,484 - Radio Program3) Yashiro (Nijisanji) - 57,320 - Koshien Practice4) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 51,111 - Koshien Practice5) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 81,637 - Nijifes Announcement6) Pekora (Hololive) - 104,044 - Mario Party (w/ Marine, Kanata, Koyori)7) Flare (Hololive) - 55,591 - Anniversary Totsumachi8) Noel (Hololive) - 91,382 - Anniversary 3D Live9) Rikiichi (Nijisanji) - 39,244 - Koshien Siren Competition10) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 94,194 - Koshien Pre-Tournament Stream11) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 206,963 - Koshien A League12) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 215,338 - Koshien B League13) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 254,415 - Koshien Finals14) Pekora (Hololive) - 66,070 - Fate/Grand Order15) Aqua (Hololive) - 124,725 - Anniversary 3D Live16) Pekora (Hololive) - 42,994 - Only Up17) Shion (Hololive) - 95,618 - Anniversary 3D Live18) Maimoto (Nijisanji) - 180,341 - Graduation Bait19) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 134,582 - Koshien Highlights20) Mio (Hololive) - 70,279 - Birthday 3D Live21) Tsukasa Tenkai (Indie) - 47,437 - Mahjong League22) Suisei (Hololive) - 36,637 - Summer Bingo23) Pekora (Hololive) - 88,387 - Offcollab (w/ Marine, Aqua, Suisei)>PER COMPANY11x: Hololive, Nijisanji1x: Indie>PER STREAMER6x: Nijisanji4x: Pekora1x: Aqua, Flare, Fuwa, Ibrahim, Maimoto, Miko, Mio, Noel, Rikiichi, Shion, Suisei, Tsukasa, Yashiro>2023 GOLDS>PER COMPANY158x: Hololive58x: Nijisanji8x: Indie5x: VSPO4x: Neo Porte>PER STREAMER55x: Pekora20x: Miko16x: Marine9x: Nijisanji8x: Subaru7x: Toya6x: Kuzuha, Suisei5x: Aqua, Yashiro4x: Hal, Hololive, Mio, Shiina, Towa3x: Chiroru, Fuwa, Iroha, Leos, Okayu, Koyori2x: Aki, Flare, Fubuki, Hinano, Ibrahim, Korone, Lamy, Lui, Maimoto, Nerumero, Salome, Shion, Tsukasa, Watame1x: Air, Ayame, Beni, Chloe, Choco, Fuwamoco, Gaku, Gura, Gundou, Hibari, Himawari, Ina, Kaede, Kanata, Kanato, Kiara, Laplus, Lize, Mel, Mito, Mori, Noel, Nose, Nozomi, Nui, Polka, Ponto, Qpi, Rikiichi, Roco, Ryushen, Ui
>>56799810It will continue to exist as long you think about numbers and/or drama.
>>56799868It still boggles my mind that the only reason why kuzuha likes to stick with kanae and vice versa is due to their heritagewhat is it with flips and brits
>>56799789I remember when JPsies said this kind of stuff didn't count because it happened so long ago
>>56799909If you are japanese, you get a 3d model?...
>>56799741Today was a nightmare.
>>56799978Do youDo you actually?
*YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN TALLY*>8/23 DAILY TALLY28,034: Baelz (Hololive)11,069: FuwaMoco (Hololive)10,359: Nerissa (Hololive)9,984: FuwaMoco (Hololive)8,242: Kiara (Hololive)7,591: Ina (Hololive)5,486: Mysta (Nijisanji)>EN GOLDS FOR AUGUST 20231) Bijou (Hololive) - 26,316 - American Truck Simulator2) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 28,132 - FuwaMoco Morning3) Shiori (Hololive) - 24,103 - Advent Pajama Party4) Shiori (Hololive) - 31,094 - Unarchived Karaoke5) Mumei (Hololive) - 36,054 - Birthday Stream6) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 33,109 - Karaoke Stream7) Nerissa (Hololive) - 26,823 - Monetization Karaoke8) Gura (Hololive) - 20,176 - Night Security9) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 18,197 - Overcooked (w/ Bijou)10) Fauna (Hololive) - 13,792 - Pokemon Unite Tournament11) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 16,685 - PHOGS12) Gura (Hololive) - 20,185 - Phone Games13) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 28,329 - Karaoke Stream14) Mori (Hololive) - 19,674 - Offcollab (w/ Marine & Baelz)15) Bijou (Hololive) - 15,654 - Holocure16) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 23,148 - Japanese Stream17) Nerissa (Hololive) - 14,106 - Powerwash Simulator (w/ Baelz)18) Gura (Hololive) - 15,562 - Holocure19) Ina (Hololive) - 19,894 - Fate/Grand Order Sponsor (w/ Kronii)20) IRyS (Hololive) - 53,910 - 3D Showcase21) Nerissa (Hololive) - 25,408 - Unarchived Karaoke22) Bijou (Hololive) - 13,661 - Holocure23) Baelz (Hololive) - CouncilRyS Offcollab Baking>PER COMPANY23x: Hololive>PER STREAMER6x: FuwaMoco3x: Bijou, Gura, Nerissa2x: Shiori1x: Baelz, Fauna, Ina, IRyS, Mori, Mumei>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)61p: FuwaMoco26p: Bijou25p: Nerissa23p: Gura, Shiori8p: Mumei7p: IRyS, Mori6p: Kiara5p: Baelz, Fauna, Ina3p: Luca, Mysta
>>56799947I wonder how many of these faggots even watched her
>>56799789I think you need to look up what collab mean
>>56799947What kind of audience do these people think she has purposefully gathered for herself?
>>56799909>Remind me again what's the benefit of joining Nijisanji?because if you are a girl or a twink theres a big chance that you will get to fuck this hunk
>>56799997What, is this your first time on this board during a schizo "Zoot Suit Riot?"Happens like, every quarter. Pretty much forgotten about after the first month or so from 0-Day.
>>56799849Senior being considered the hardest Fromsoft always baffles me. Maybe it’s because I have some experience in rhythm games but I found Sekiro to be straightforward to play, while Bloodborne felt more difficult to me, especially the dlc
>>56799947Why are Western "fan" so out of touch? It's they forget how much of a time bomb Mikineko is and organizers just don't one her anyone near her since she's blacklisted by mafufu and cover
>>56800031>2023 EN GOLDS>PER COMPANY176x: Hololive55x: Nijisanji3x: Holostars1x: Idol>PER STREAMER22x: Fauna21x: Gura, Mori17x: IRyS, Mumei14x: Baelz, Ina13x: Kronii10x: Amelia9x: Kiara, Mysta, Vox7x: FuwaMoco4x: Bijou, Pomu, Selen, Shu3x: Nerissa, Nina, Ren2x: Alban, Finana, Hololive English, Ike, Luca, Shiori, Wilson1x: Enna, Elira, Flayon, Fulgur, Luxiem, Millie, Petra, Regis, Roca, Rosemi, Sonny, Vesper, Bandage>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)216p: Fauna166p: Ina161p: Mori150p: IRyS141p: Mumei126p: Baelz114p: Gura101p: Kronii91p: Kiara83p: Amelia80p: Mysta74p: Vox66p: FuwaMoco64p: Luca37p: Shu31p: Bijou, Selen28p: Nerissa27p: Shiori25p: Pomu24p: Nina19p: Ike16p: Ren15p: Enna, Fulgur14p: Sonny, Uki13p: Finana, Millie11p: Axel10p: Alban, Elira, Hololive English, Wilson9p: Vesper7p: Regis6p: Rosemi, Bandage5p: Flayon, Luxiem, Petra, Roca4p: Magni, Bringer3p: Bettel, Hakka, Kotoka, Poko1p: Kyo, Maria, Meloco, Shinri, Pippa
Today's numbers
someone wrote a blog post in the cover note>DeepL:>First of all, I am very grateful that you have provided us with this opportunity to frankly and honestly voice our opinions, even if only as a result.>One of the main pleasures of VTubers, especially those with a strong idol flavor such as Hololive, is the pseudo communication with their "guesses", As a result, there is a common understanding that we cannot write negative opinions on Twitter or YouTube.>As a result, we are only allowed to express positive opinions or, at best, to remain silent.>I am glad to see that many opinions that are usually silenced are being conveyed directly to the management, even if only in this way.>There are many things I would like to say about the Horizontals and other recent foolishness, but I will leave that for another time and write about the Holostars here.>Many idol contents that were originally developed only for female or male idols have later been developed with idol contents of a different gender, and this has been a path that many idol contents have taken before, and has been criticized by many people.>The "THE iDOLM@STER" series and the "UtaPuri" series are still fresh in our memories.>There is nothing wrong with developing an IP called "HOLOSTARS" as part of the business development of COVER (regardless of its success or failure). What is being criticized is "the act of trying to half-way forcibly to develop content with the exact opposite characteristics of the content that was originally developed and had gained a certain level of popularity.>As mentioned above, unlike existing idol contents, V-idol contents have been closed to negative opinions, but if you compare the number of views and the number of real-time viewers, you can see that there are many fans who do not like the "twisted development" as in the case of idol contents. I think it is clear that there are more than a few fans who do not like the "screwing around" as in the past idol contents.>If I remember correctly, I think that when HOLO STARS was first launched, there was still some consideration for this, but at some point it completely changed course and HOLOLO LIVE began to run in the opposite direction of what fans wanted.>It seems as if they have no understanding of the brand image and appeal of HOLOLOLIVE, which was fortunately built up by chance, and are now trying to destroy it with their own hands.>I sincerely hope that you will understand that there are also the cries of the fans that have been contained, and that you will not dismiss my words by saying that if you have any complaints, just leave without saying anything or don't watch the show.
>>56800036Not even mention paying a membership or buying her merch.
>>56800087You say that but the cgdct and first army shitposts still get brought up every day
>>56799947It's funny that these "fans" aren't there for her or even the males, they're there for the audience reaction. They're fans of us...
>>56799947>all those botted likespathetic
>>56800092I have no idea how Bloodborne plays because it's a console exclusive.
>>56799947>These “fans” are just as bad as the tweakers who play NBA LIVEThat completely random comparison got a chuckle out of me I’ll admit
lol now holojp is the one doing homo collabs and bleeding numbers like crazy.
>>56800087You and I both know that the last samurai will memoryhole jp's involvement in this event while simultaneously using it as a bludgeon against en for months
>>5679985012-13 win for nijisanji, hololive is dead
>>56799859>>56799868>>56799915The fucking irony>It's ok when women do it
>>56800036>>56800059>>56800111majority of revs viewers dont watch vtubers and only watch him because he is the anime equivalent of pic related
>>56800139Nips are tired of being silenced on Twitter
How do we save Hololive?
Ina's math skills are on par with ours
>>56799909Jezas
>>56799947>I don't watch but it sure would be hilarious if she made her fans angry and ended up dying penniless on the streets.damn these people are evil.
>>56799947>just let her do whatever>they say in English>commenting on MiguelIf you don't watch her, don't comment.
>>56800139What is 5ch saying? Probably shocking them to see people's real feelings
>>56799741Fucking hell, already?
>>56800036>Japanese vtuber.Basically none of them.
>>56799741yikes Kronii 2.0
>>56800352We don't. It deserves to crash.
>>56799947Post link
>>56800328>scared to be dogpiled by the rest of the fanbaseI feel like that doesn’t go well with the narrative that the nips as a collective are “rising up” or whatever
>>56799947Which drama channel comment section is that?
>>56800158Yeah, but those aren't Zoot Suit Riot-level memetics, those things spawned as antibodies against shitposters on the CGDCT end (to carve out a faction that wasn't as schizo as unicorns, but not as fucking retarded as beggars), and as sorting mechanisms on the First Army end.Schizo ZSRs are more like what happened with the Mumei collab, or the potentialisms that were psuedo-yabs which schizos ran with before anything could actually take form.
>>56800268
>>56800299>It's ok when women do itworse its the classic niji>It's ok to harass someone when it affects your shipits what happened to tomoe a few months ago
>>56799947some got more likes than homos get viewers
>>56800471https://youtu.be/lFiOKtZdlzc
>>56800460stop being uppity smallcorpokekthe life of this whole board depends on hololive's survival
>>56800300Culture War obsessed retards who grift on an established community that isn't perfectly harmonious, and blames everything that doesn't perfectly cater to them on evil, malignant forces attempting to "subvert" the things they like?
>>56800111These people still believe Rushia was fired over suspicions of having a boyfriend.
>>56800352No hope. Maybe changing the CEO, but that would kill the company.
>>56800501More like a loud minority of people jump down your throat and scream at you. These people, of course, don't even watch streams or buy merch.The idea that most of the fanbase likes the Stars and enjoys these collabs just isn't supported by the numbers, not one bit.
>>56800328I don't get who this is even for. Most people who watch FPS think vtubers are cringe. And Holo fans don't give a shit about FPS or homos. They just want to watch cute anime girls. And homo fans don't even exist so what even is the point of all of this?
>>56800589yes
>>56800408was 5ch overrun by homobeggars or something?
>>56800460
>>56800629Rough
>>56800501It's kind of like how there's thousands or homobeggars ready to jump on you at the slightest suggestion that they may not be performing well. And only a few hundred will ever watch a stream.
>>56800563>the life of this whole board depends on hololive's survivalYou're not helping your case.
>>56800460Unironically a MANSister.
>>56800300Revs gf is a low 2view on Twitch. for a bunch of people that dont care about this stuff they dont support them
>>56800521I would feel comforted by that if I believed it for one second, but you and I both know that the cgdgt and first army stuff are both simply more sophisticated versions of the tier list shitposts where the goal is to generate yous by arbitrarily excluding certain girls while including others
>>56800501JP fans have the same problems EN fans do.Popular male e-celebs will have large fanbases that enjoy attacking Hololive's fanbase and demanding that male collabs be allowed so their e-celebs can leech.
>>56800766Everything becomes a tier list eventually, anon.It's the Carcinisation of image boards, anything and everything EVENTUALLY becomes something that's used to create a tier list. But that doesn't mean it's meaningless outside of its role as a tier list generator.
>>56800521Mumei was incredibly lucky with how that homo collab turned out>Pre-tempus so less people went ultra schizo about it>tagged along with Bae in the Haachama Minecraft collab right before the homo collab so the “JP collab virginity taken by Stars” shitposting angle died>was almost completely silent throughout the collab and only drew cursed shit so shitposters were left with nothing to work with>never mentioned the collab againA lot of things just went right for the shitposting about the collab to immediately die the moment it was over
>>56800692>le heckin black pilled self-contrarianAnd you being here while totally wanting the board to get taken down, or even the site itself, is also not helping your case.
>>56800604Why? Yagoo is not even managing the company anymore. He is just a figurehead now.
>JP homobeggar
>>56800893Mainly because she never did another one.
The fact that it's JPstars is more annoying. Those guys are boring as fuck. Imagine filtering your fanbase but getting nothing. Not even kino streams. Korone got the fighting game community but this will just fuel the homobeggars
>>56800926was he beaten to death in his home?
>>56800059At this point it’s the same audience as DSP or LTG, people watching so they can see the next absurd way she self destructs
>>56800501If they're expressing negative opinions, then that's basically rising-up. Since, the V-idol culture is very hugboxy. Just like for EOP fans there's a few unicorns/CGDCT fans that speak-up, they get dogpiled by a slightly larger group, but the silent majority (that only watches girls) stays out of the online drama or soapbox anonymously /here/.
>>56800139Being in Japanese does not make me want to read some fags blog any more than usual.
>>56800645Yeah him and hero hei love to grift on anime related shit and try to inject politics. Its actually funny cause I remember one of them kept on saying that lolis are just drawings so they dont hurt anyone but then threw a massive shitfit when someone drew their waifu brown.>>56800741i thought his wife didnt discuss political shit in her streams?
>>56800893Lex..
Surely Nerissa isn't going to underperform her aged EN senpais playing this ultrabuff game, right?
>>56800995They are absolutely trying to line things up so they can camp the 3D studio and chat up hologirls all day. At least with randoms they can't force "coincidental" meetings.
Wow, that catalog damage control is getting wild right now.
>>56800554>>56799947>"fans"It's so irritating. They are indeed her fans, her hardcore, diehard fans even, who followed her after death. It's these God damn retards that don't even know what her voice sounds like, or given her a cent, or even so much as watched an ad on her channel that are the "fans". She's just a weapon to them to use in their war against the ebil Unicorns and Idol enjoyers. I want to burn them all.
>>56800893No, that's just because this board generally likes Mumei and her antis only latched on to the doxx posting angle which made them routinely mocked here which is why it failed to catch on. Consider the level of shitposting kiara got simply because vesper raided her, or the current level of shitposting over irys
>>56801070Because the silent majority sees the cgdct faction as a bunch of freaks
>>56801129>current only up>buff
>>56800985Yeah because irys totally collabs with males on the regularOh wait
>>56800995As I've said before, the eceleb shit is the gateway to homobegging. By refusing to gatekeep ecelebs they've let the foxes into the henhouse. Cover sees people highly receptive to male (flesh) and then assumes they can transfer that to male (holostars)
>>56801197If that were the case, NijiEN and Vshojo would be way more popular.
>>56801197Yeah that's why the most popular girls in the company constantly do male collabs, and all the cgdct girls-only girls are shitters. Right?
>>56801129Maybe she should get a personality outside of KIARAKIARAKIARA and I’M HORNY
>>56801129I tried watching her, she has her volume stupidly low and basically ignored chat, so I swapped back to Biboo.
>>56801197>>>/vt/mans/
>>56800621You niggers keep talking about the 'idol journey' and how it's about seeing the girls work hard and improve at things they're passionate about and how it doesn't have to be about literal idol singing and dancing. If this holizontal bullshit was handled well, a series of proper vidya tournament arcs seems like one of the most obvious and effective ways to create that type of experience. The fact that so far it's just been rushed and half assed cashgrab showmatches to promote dying shooters and the fucking homo veggies is tragic but there's a world in which it results in Startend kino happening more than literally just once.
>>56801197Roru. Rorumao.
>>56801299Suisei
>>56801197You mean the absent majority. By silent majority he meant people who watch streams.
>>56801197You've been spending too much time in your discord. Instead of being a stupid faggot, why don't you watch one of your boys?
>>56801197kinda weird considering cgdct stuff gets bigger numbers than homo stuff
>>56801405>MGO is a flop compared to her other stuff
Membership openings are closer than you think
She's NEVER going to break out of being the runt of HoloJP now that she's a homo dickrider too.
>>56801402Idol journey is a scam. People want idols who are trained professional like those in Korea.
>>56801612JUsT eNjoY
>>56801338Her first purchase when she gets her paycheck should be a better mic. She must record her covers at a studio or something, because no way she does it with the mic from her streams.
>>56801292>>56801299>>56801455>>56801513First off there's a difference between "does not enjoy male content" and "cgdgt faction"Secondly the face of the cgdct faction is the catalog and please tell me you guys don't see what's happening now as a bunch of freaks
>>56801612>the runt of HoloJPAnon, she's not even low tier anymore.
>>56800328I like how half the hatred for the stars stems from them just being a bunch of pathetic leeches kek
>>56801673It's not a hardware problem, her issue is that she doesn't know how to set up the audio settings and permanently fucked it up when during her karaoke
>>56800639Are you crazy
>>56801683Making a semantic argument based around retarded /here/ terms that are jumbled and muddled to begin with is dumb.The fact is, most fans don't like the Stars. This is literally plainly self-evident.
>>56801402If only they had used>Startend>Botan with 2 capable holo shooters>A pretty decent holo shooter team>Several teams used as flesh sacrificeInstead of the homos, then it would have been truly kino even if we already know who the winner would be.
>>56801197Do they? If you only watch the girls then you're cgdct.
>>56801736>I like how half the hatred for the stars stems from them just being a bunch of pathetic leeches kekNo one likes the WNBA either.
>>56801612HoloEN wishes they have the same CCV as Lui. She's not a runt
>>56801683ruruall your coping still doesnt change the fact that cgdct stuff gets more numbers than homo stuff anonif it wasnt true then Uyu would have more subs than gura and have bigger ccv than pekora or marine
>>56801612Kiara will set her straight. And what I mean by that is gay.
If we go from a business perspective, I think I understand the chain of events:>Stars basically recline into the boss' personal YMCA and stays in that stagnant, but somewhat comfortable enough role for a while>for some reason (not sure of the exact one, but obviously there is one) people decide to put a lot of effort into the Homos in 2022, maybe as a last-ditch "make it work or make it break" attempt by the management to make it more than just a subsidized boarding house>Stars suddenly get a lot of shit (UPROAR!!, Tempus1&2, boys only Hologra, a bunch of time in the 3D studio while it's already super booked, a HoloFes equivalent, even an attempt to show them off during the New Year events) in the effort to really make this the "Year of Growth" for them>instead, reality occurs and turns Homostar's "Year of Growth" into Cover's personalized "Year of Luigi," and now Stars have gone from "no big profit or loss" to "deeply in the red with no real path to independently recovering," and since the IPO happened, it would suddenly look really bad on the books if they had to recover those expenses by dipping into the Hololive profit margins and subsidizing the boss' pet project>answer: whip up a shell project to attract capital which can be used to recover the funds by having it encompass both ends of the company, the real money maker and the boss' pet project. Since both ends participate in it, the books don't look bad if that money offsets the losses and brings the pet project back into the black>Use the first outing or two to get outside investor eyes on how lucrative it can be by only using the money makers, then hook a whale (And Microsoft can only be considered the whitest of whales) and pull the stars in to siphon all that profit into a place that looks natural for them, finally balancing the booksIs this fanfic? Absolutely. But it's how I'd cook the books without doing anything financially shady, if an investor ever did come a-knocking and asking why we put so much money into something that had so little return. Make a shell, generate profit under that brand, make sure the shell holds the boys, then use those earnings to offset the losses, and suddenly it doesn't look so bad. Especially if the investor doesn't look TOO deep to see where the actual sausage was made in that shell brand.
>>56801673It's not that, her stream audio is like 50% of any other stream or YT video you might open. She keeps saying it can't be fixed but she's just stubborn and it's a shitty personality trait.
>>56801513Memoryhole the UNO collab?
Why is every AsaMel just riajuu zatsu
>>56801197So you're in the minority since the majority of the fanbase prefers to watch girls alone.
>>56801683>the face of the cgdct faction is the catalogI desperately deny that claimThey care far more about "unicornism" than anything resembling a CGDCT mindset
>>56801612tick tock
>>56801858>for some reason (not sure of the exact one, but obviously there is one) people decide to put a lot of effort into the Homos in 2022pre ipo investors started asking questions on where the breakdown of earnings
>>56801405NTA, but how many did she do with holostars? Off the top of my head, I can only remember Rikku appearing in her live and that talk show with Roberu.
>>56801785Cover was probably originally going to make it homo-only but Microsoft told them to fuck off with that shit and add some girls or else.
>>56801837Kiara will throw away the unicorns if she will get paid. She already collabed with that one guy for a promotion.
>>56801922Male collab buff??
So is Nerissa the runt of Advent now? Shouldn't have made your entire personality be "I love Kiara"
>>56801883>Memoryhole the UNO collab?Couldnt even beat a gura karaoke stream even though it was so "hyped"
>>56801858Seems pretty plausible.
>>56801883I thing people would put a lot more stock into that collab if afterwards their numbers didn't immediately go back toMori: 3kKronii: 5kVesper: 2kMagni: 1k
>>56801903AsaMel is the only trustworthy news show.
>>56801858Seems plausible. Holizontal is likely an attempt to get the Stars involved with something, fucking anything, that doesn't lose money.
did you know that the head of the overseas branches in nijisanji is a indog? you know nowhttps://www.anycolor.co.jp/en/news/29-lmr7-o1
>>56801945I can see how that could be a concern for them, if they knew they were going to exercise their option at the end of the five-year investment contract for putting their stock on the public market, and not wanting to have anything on the books that seemed like a clear liability
>>56801969Yea it worked wonders for Aki.
>>56801403The people are watching for brand. And a bunch of underage faggots to watch now Hololive. Thanks to YouTube ecommendations.
Vtubers could never
>>56801995Only Up!'s moment of fame is pretty much over
>>56801922Aki's Splatoon addiction is killing her channel again.
>>56801995Probably, but we need to see more of Shiori's streams to be sure. Shiori definitely has the advantage.
the average hololive watcher likes cgdct way more than homo stuff but they don't think 1 single homo collab removes that girl cgdct status
gura won and got away with the sabotage chumbuds i kneel you guys are too strong
>>56801969Don't look up Aki's recent streams...
>>56802071>did you know that the head of the overseas branches in nijisanji is a indog? you know nowif you did your linkedin reps youd know that the guy is a zhang
>>56802098Didn't Pekora win gold with it like last week
>>56801813True. She has higher CCV than even the shark aka cgdct prime on most days
>>56802052When IS the last time she even did her news segment?
>>56802034yeah Advent shouldve been mixed gen. imagine the numbers instead of twin sisters, we got a girl and a guy who met on tinder and just cybersex each other in front of a bunch of voyeurs
>>56802113you make it sound like if it was ever alive recently
Hoshimachi Suisei post.
>>56801995She's never got a start first advantage and has almost never been raided. I think she's had maybe two streams where she had a single hour of no overlap?
>>56801858I can believe this. The stars are tryharding this to ensure their victory against the girls. They’re gonna leech the girls popularity and hopefully gain some tourists by showing how “skillful” they are.
>>56801757>>56801827I don't disagree that cgdgt content is far more popular, but there is a difference between "I enjoy cgdct content" and "I freak out when male collabs are announced" and I hope I don't need to explain why even for someone who doesn't enjoy male collabs, they are not going to look at the current state of the catalog and people like gabe and think "my kind of people"
I'm so tired of seeing Biboo on vrabi
>>56801858>turns Homostar's "Year of Growth" into Cover's personalized "Year of Luigi,"God, that's such a fucked up way of putting it, but you aren't wrong
>>56802123Attacking the girls over it is just the usual false-flaggers thinking they have an angle. The girls won't even be in VC with the dudes, it's impossible to consider this the sort of collab anyone sincerely cares about from that angle.
>>56801858>Is this fanfic? Absolutely. But it's how I'd cook the books without doing anything financially shady, if an investor ever did come a-knocking and asking why we put so much money into something that had so little return. Make a shell, generate profit under that brand, make sure the shell holds the boys, then use those earnings to offset the losses, and suddenly it doesn't look so bad. Especially if the investor doesn't look TOO deep to see where the actual sausage was made in that shell brand.problem is that investors will actually look deep into this and would want a breakdown in order to minmax profitsits why corpos who do this have multiple shell projects which they can jump to instead if just one
>>56802196Did you miss her kino concert?
>>56801736The sad part is how utterly excited the homos were after the announcement because they finally got a lucrative deal while the girls were kinda like 'let's get this shit over with', like they were quietly pressured into it.
>>56802091This is the video that caused all of my geopolitical circles to freak the fuck out at how many new conflicts it invented on its world map
>>56801673They were getting paychecks begore they debuted, but yeah she needs to buy a good set-up with her next one.
>>56802122yea it was totally Gura and not her horrible game choices and the fact her whole character can be reduced to being the runt of EN's sidekick
>>56802249I mean the best outcome is just people freaking out on the catalogThe worse outcome would be that anon targetting another stars fan as payback again
>>56802249They're not going to look at false-flaggers and youtube /vt/ drama channels making shitposts as their people? Duh.But conflating the /byerys/ vandal morons with people frustrated at management continuing to push these leeches and shuffle resources from the girls to them isn't correct either.
>>56802123I haven't made any comments about the girls, but I have and will continue to shit on Cover for this
I don't think anybody here as notice but Choco is currently at 992k subs so she is potentially 1 or 2 endurance streams away from hitting a million thus making JP2 another gen with all their members with over a million subs
>>56802091Hololive is a so yboy brand for redditors trannies that dilate and need to neck themselves. Never going to be a real woman. Trannies jannies seaniggers eat cum eating cuckolds with shit.
>Biboo planning to interact with Astel
>>56802249I'm sure everything on the catalog is authentic and not falseflagging from every less popular corpo.
>>56801197cgdct faction IS the silent majority
>>56801736100% of the hatred is fear that the stars will fuck their oshis.
>>56799691Not a vtuber
>>56802436Astel should change his name to prevent any more misunderstandings.
Where the hell is Gura? She promised to stream daily last time.
>>56802367i mean you have a point but goomba is not going to be streaming because she won so cry more
>>56800589Go back to leftypol you tranny
>>56802236It won't work, just like it has never worked the last 100 times Cover has thought>the boys just need a little more visibility, just one last opportunity to get a bunch of the girl's fans eyes on them!
>>56801683No, they're the same (at least outside of this shithole).
>>56802236I don't even think the strat is to try and get any fans out of this. I don't see any real incline coming out of this event for any of them.What I do see, however, is a fat fucking contract from Microsoft that'll get paid out, primarily from the girl's CCV, and how Cover can spin it as "Something in which the Holostars brand recouped costs" to investors by implying>"Well, they were clearly the skilled players here, they generated a lot of interest in the program, and thus were the main driver behind the profits made in this program."
>>56799691>Scroll through the thread>Not a single good postOP being the only good thing has been too much of a reality recently.
>>56802249>using the current the catalog as a gauge when parrot said in his discord that he is actively searching for his next content this week
>>56800741they're getting married soon and she mostly does gfe asmr so thats why roru
Debut buff over. Advent are now council 2.0.
>>56802405Choco needs to fucking stream. She can easily get 1M subs now if she does any buff stream
>>56802236Aren't they just going to be mocked for try harding and destroying a bunch of girls that never play? It's like a grown man going to a basket ball court and dunking on elementary school girls. No one is going to praise him.
>>56802598Is that why Gura stopped streaming too?
>>56802303>pressured by managementLui’s comments basically said this. If you want to be more accurate, management guilt-tripped them into it.
>>56802505>he doesn't know about the secret daily streams
>>56802631nah its the homo pushingnotice how she stopped streming the moment the ow2 thing was announced
>>56802488StarsJP are pathetic, anon, nobody thinks they're sex gods. Do you think any of these women, most (all?) of whom have higher CCV alone than all the StarsJP combined, think they're cool? Women aren't attracted to weak men who can't even support themselves.
>>56802598>Advent are Council 2.0>HoloX are turning into Council 3.0Grim
>>56802549Explains a lot.
>>56802631Debut EN4 Nau
>>56801129anon, its not even fotm anymore. it's flavor of like 3 months ago. its absolutely a debuff now
>>56802626No one needs to care about them if they can parlay it into a payday that'll help them out of the absolute fucking HOLE that shit like Tempus' stupidly-overinvested debuts put them in
>>56802631No, Gura is poopsocking Outer Wilds off-stream, screaming about some "Ghost" Moon
>>56802122Nerissa has the personality of Wonder Bread and got exposed as a Mixer baby. That poor bastard was doing his best Scotty impression while working on her covers.>mister mixer, more pitch adjustment!>I'M GIVING HER ALL SHE'S GOT CAPTAIN, SHE CANNAE TAKE MUCH MORE!>more vocal tuning!>I CANNAE CHANGE THE LAWS OF PHYSICS
>>56802626If go too far in the tryharding they run the risk of the girls losing interest quickly and not having even a bit of fun. What a good look that would be.
>>56802137indonesian is a nationality retard kun. you can be chink and indo at the same time
>>56802488I'm sure all those nip women that don't watch them are just intimated by their high charisma and good looks too
>>56802631nah that's cause IRyS got tricked into a stars jp collab so Gura decided to fuck off again in protest. And yes Gura is worth more than the entire stars branch by several orders of magnitude.
>>56802392>>56802447>>56802549>implying that regular people are going to be able to make that distinctionWe have regulars here who aren't able to make that distinction, what makes you think regular people who think of 4chan as the evil hacker den can?
>>56802631Yeah, She fought them head-on at they're most potent and held strong. She has nothing to fear anymore.
>>56802631Gura streams when Hololive is healthy. She is absent when it's sick. Gura is Hololive
>>56802654Lol she stopped streaming way before that
>>56802631No the father of her child felt neglected so she's been getting railed for the past 5 days straight.
>>56802672keep telling people that the current state of /vt/ is just history repeating itself with homer and /mlp/ but they dont listen
>>56802644Cover is turning into a black company but instead of doing what's right and getting rid of the homos they're guilt tripping the girls to be in events with those failures. Fucking lovely.
>>56802236Reality: they’ll fuck up somehow and get more people pissed off at them while causing their numbers to drop to new lows.
>>56802748Anyone who cannot (or will not) make that distinction has an IQ lower than Iroha's and should not be taken seriously
Advent doesn’t hit 10k as much now
I find it funny how ENfags now realize how JP had to live under constant overlaps.
Am i misremembering or did nerissa play only up like her first gaming stream and beat it easilyWhy is she playing it again
>>56802748>what makes you think regular people who think of 4chan as the evil hacker den can?anon 4chan hasnt been identified as le evil hacker since 2010
Why are nijiniggers making a big deal out of a company mandated event? This is a total non issue, it will be forgotten as soon as it's over. Do you have to keep making a big deal and doompost so much whenever male collab with female?
>>56802748Anon, if you wanna talk about the "regular people" audience, the "regular people" don't even fucking know about this place.The vast majority of Hololive's fanbase doesn't participate on Reddit, or on /vt/, or on Discord. They just fucking show up sometimes, and mostly watch clips of the funny anime women.The BIG audience is the tourist box. The HARDCORE audience is here and on Discords, and they're either hardcore CGDCTs or hardcore beggars. And then the Redditors just exist in their own hellbox.
>>56802827So, the silent majority?
>>56802779How about the child? Don't neglect the child.
>Nerissa losing to Ina>Dogs are gonna have shit numbers tooYeah, Advent is done as soon as Bijous /v/ tourists leave
>>56802663If they're that pathetic, why is 75% catalog up in flames thinking Irys is gonna fawn all over them?
>>56802854Getting Over It
>>56802877t. IQlet
>>56802869Be honest, which one is you oshi? You're the Lui spammer, aren't you?
>>56801967>promotionKiara in her last stream was basically saying how Tales of series saved her life so it wasn't just any promotion like a shitty OW pvp session.
>>56802436>First Vesper in FF>Now Astel in Elden ring Why this keeps happening
>>56802838Are you trying to say fucking Ina is keeping biboo and nerissa from hitting 10k?
>>56802897It's the catalog, anon, if it isn't a general thread, it's a bait thread.
>>56802897>why is catalog shitpostingis this a real question
>>56802897>Why are small corpo shitposters pushing the angle du jour against HololiveI don't know, I'm going to go get a pHD in shitpostology to try to uncover this extremely mysterious mystery. It's going to take me 10 years of extensive research to uncover this deep knowledge.
>>56802737Same reason most folks here don't watch Niji girls: Brand loyalty
>>56802899Shiori spirit bombs are back on the menu just wait
>>56802748I mean what does their incorrect opinion change? They don't watch vtubers and certainly not hololive outside the odd clip. They watch a youtube shitpost summary and move on with their lives.
>>56801858Good rrat.
>>56802626Hopefully. Most of the girls are beginners and they will only have a single practice session together because they’re fucking busy. Imagine tryharding against a bunch of noobs.
>>56802729do your reps anon his nationality is zhang, him going to indonesia was buisness related though would not surprise me if he was a mandarin indo
>>56802631With the girls opening their membership she will return soon, if the other girls show more value in their member streams she will feel intimidated again
6k DORYAAAA!
>>56802869>nijifagsYou"re talking about holo fanbase vs holo fanbase. 'Cause you all have neanthertals brain.
>>56802889The mold takes care of the child
>>56802966Biboo probably, Nerissa eh....
>>56802982>small corpo shitpostersIf it was just small corpo shitposters hirys wouldn't have been on fire for the past 16 hours
>>56802151>Pekorathere's your reason
>>56802969>>56802974>>56802982Cope. IRyS is the straightest Holo member by far. 80% of her zatsudans are simping over anime boys
>>56802999lolokay dude
>>56803056And the nijinigger reveals himself at last
>>56802899>Nerissa losing to InaWe should just expect declining numbers, but overall they should all be doing decent enough.
>>56802281Considering how yagoo and his allies apparently hold more than 50% of the stock, there's a limit to the leverage that other investors holdCover will never separate out holos and stars in their financial reports since they know how bad it'll look, and there's not much investors can do about it
>>56802090Sister? Can you translate this in English?
>>56803046>Holo EN>membership valuelol
>>56803066When the fuck has /hirys/ NOT been on fire, anon?I've been watching that woman for two years and I literally cannot tell you of a single day I've ever looked into that thread and seen anything but a schizofest.
>>56802897Because every irrelevant western small corpo and sister that hates the fact that they will forever live in holoen's shadow gets a chance to sperg about something and call a girl a whore.
>>56801197
If they keep growing and put in hard work, maybe they can get to 2k someday
>>56802598Minecraft buff.
I gotta admire their spirit desu.
>>56802999>Same reason most folks here don't watch Niji girls: Brand loyaltyNah niji girls are just plain boring which is why you see the audience starting to dip 20 mins in on their graphs majority of the timeholo nijijp and even smaller corpos like idol or phase dont have this problem in that severity
>>56803060kek
Hololive have done many Holo x Star collabs already and it still stand, this is not going to kill Hololive like some phase and nijinig want you to believe. Stop falling for their psyop over nothing burger
>>56802999>Enna openly talks about doing weedhttps://streamable.com/zpj32a
>>56803140The sad thing is that they did get 2k at one point before luxiem and acceleration knocked them all the way back down
>>56803168NijiID and KR... had a hard life
>>56803140Looking like Aster gold today. King needs to come back and get into form.
>>56803191Their problem is that 90% of the male vtuber market won't watch whores. They limited themselves to a very small, niche segment of the market that enjoys being cuckholded.
>>56803168And who the fuck are these? ive never even heard of them
>>56803201and what happen if Lui or Irys do another Kanata situation?
>>56803201It's not going to kill Hololive, obviously. "Holizontal" is a bad idea though, off-brand, and should stop.
>>56803125Are you telling me the schizos are her fans?
>>56803140Elira was once the top EN talent, wtf happened? Did she yab?
It really is wild to think that NijiEN had a full year to go as hard as physically possible to build up their own brand while Hololive fumbled.And they used the opportunity to fucking bet their balls off
>>56803213I wonder if she was in Japan at the time. Anykara might be interested
>>56803168That's when you know your oshi really loves his/her fans. Then again they can't feed themselves on these numbers.
>>56803168what drives them to keep going, might as well go indie
>>56803168And people still says HoloID was a mitake.
so why are people shitposting aqua the past 3 threads? some bored niji fan? Everyone that watches aqua knows about the smash collab and i still imagine her sweet delicious seethe that she lost the round to those fucking nijishitters.
>>56803329Well most of her audience is JP/CN, and I'm pretty sure China has laws against promoting drug use.
Why are nijinigs so against Cover promoting the stars?
>>56803292Niji ID
I dont know why you're trying to downplay a male female collab forced by cover Unless people sperg hard its likely to become more common
Oh Selen is copying HoloEN and doing a Pokemon Unite Tourney
>>56801673unironically she needs audio help. committed jailbird here and its awful having to reconfig my audio only for when she's streaming. also wish she didn't have shit rigging but most holomems do so whatevs
>>56803213How is this not suspension worthy?
>>56803304JRPG spam, same as what happened to Kiara + acceleration
[Bijou news]Bijou's record for not eating anything is 5 days.
>>56803371Why are you trying this falseflag in numbers of all places sister
Even if the Stars are pathetic, low life scum, they're 20 times better off than chat. So the jealously still remains. It's pond-scum being the envy of sewer-filth.
>>56803393It's a Twitch organized event, and she's playing with Rosemi and three male pros
>>56803393I'm sure it will do just as well
cut Lui some slack man... she just want baby
>>56803283Like you faggots numbertrannies. Hololive faggots from the worst guetto. You are poorfaggoots too. Brown spicfaggots normalfaggots. Go back to >>>/soc/
>>56802631Yes
>Cover actually doing something to promote every talent>nijinigs are malding and seething because their liver never had thisYou can easily smell their jealousy
>>56803315I mean they weren't even in the same market. NijiEN was targeting CN, while holoEN was targeting NA. There was no way for nijiEN to grow in NA in the first place.
good number for gura
>>56801995I think it's safe to say that the debut buff is overAnd unfortunately there's no buff MC arc awaiting like what happened with Council back in 2021
>>56803478God damn, NijisanjiEN is like an upside down world the women need to leech off the men to be successful.
>>56803375anyone that does is a homobeggar its that easy. nobody else should feel obligated to defend this shit they can just remain quiet
>>56803112problem is that even if yagoo and his buddies hold majority of the stock if one of the corpo investors (not the individual investors) requests a breakdown then they would have no choice but to comply.Same shit happened with toyota when one of their investors asked for a breakdown after their overseas plant looked like it was underperforming
>vox accidentally started a stream>2.2k watching
>>56801757No, they don’t care about the homos. There is a massive difference between not watching them because you don’t care about them and say the dags who screenshot every homo related post on Reddit to post here and seethe.
>>56803466Please, sis, it must hurt you to insult your precious boys like this just to try to take a dig at "chat". Stop hurting yourself, I'd hate to see you cry.
>>56803099???? Who said im nijigger? Do you have some database in there faggot? I'm just pointing out your lack of critical analysis and it shows dumbass
>>56803567me like shorty
>>56802249Don't fool yourself. The>I enjoy cgdct contentfans are still shat on by most of the retards that would rightfully shit on Gabes.
>>56803466What happens when people in chat are more popular than stars?
>>56803300Hell no, I'm telling you that it's a failed split.Chuck it in the bin with /wah/, /ameg/, /uuu/, whatever the fuck KFP call their split, the ones that came out wrong and fucked up and caused all their fans to stay on Global, or eventually, here.A good half the splits that got made for EN talents just straight up did not become viable as discussion platforms for their girls of choice, so they got left to schizophrenics and people too stupid to realize where most of her fans were. The only ones that survived were the ones that were literally too big to fail (/ggg/), too willing to talk about RM shit to ever integrate into the big threads (/morig/), or the ones that managed to find alternate communities that didn't link up perfectly with the main consensus community (/who/ becoming /his/-lite as well as Mumei's thread, /inf/ being a fanfic thread before hitting critical mass, etc).Hell, I'd say Advent was the first generation to actually get a mostly successful split situation, where it seems like all of the splits are viable.
>The only 10k stream from side branchjust move them to JST primetime already
>>56803438Really? So it was JRPG and not the chicken voice that killed Kiara?
>>56803168Ah shit you reminded me that Layla is still going through her family menhera arc
why did no one mention why shiori was faking her knowing pudding when crediting who was the one making her premiere videos while she was gone on vacation. it was so fake that i was cringing real hard when she was saying how she thought his name was puddles and shit like that
I finally geit itHolo antis are simply psychopaths
>>56803670they become clippers
>>56803567>drugged and raped on the beach
>>56803589PREMIUM BOT SERVICE VERY VERY GOOD U RIKE
>>56802236>They’re gonna leech the girls popularity and hopefully gain some tourists by showing how “skillful” they are....against two decent gamers and three girls who are crappy at the game that were basically last-minute additions management had to guilt-trip into joining because the usual homocollabers had other stuff to do?
>>56803589Milord has some power left in him yet
>>56803685It's a combination of things for Kiara but JRPG is a big contributing factor.
>>56801858Orrrrrrrrrr you could do the exact same thing you’re already doing of “Sankisei and UPROAR bring an average 1 million dollars per person
>>56803567Why is Hololive in the Chinese app. No that. Is no more with the Chinese. Hmmm .
>>56803283Nah they would have gotten bigger numbers since people like ironmouse can get itProblem is that they are just too unintersting and unentertaining to retain an audience
>>56803168It's like looking at early Migo.
>>56803679>mococos tits
>>56803798it's youtube dumbass
>>568035892k floor let's gooooo
>>56803679Advent will probably all balance out around like 5-10k. I think they are all good streamers, but the debut hype is clearly gone now. I also think the Little Witch Nobeta was a dumb choice of a game, so Fuwamoco will probably getting like 7k tops this time.
>>56803679the horror game tomorrow will get 10k, Nobeta might not even get 5k
Biboo says death to manlets
>>56803790Sure, but if someone REALLY forces some kind of audit and they don't have cover, they'll be naked.When you go public, you have to set up an independent auditor pipeline, and if it ever needed to be used, it wouldn't be good for the Stars.
>/vt/ is still posting holo v Holowe nijichads won because you can't help but fall for our astroturfing what a bunch of retards y'all are
[Sad News] Biboo wants short people to die
EVERYONE SHUT THE FUCK UP MY DOG WIVES ARE ON THE TELLY
>>56803589For posterity. No warning, no waiting room, immediate ~2.3k totally real people.
Management really needs to force myth and council into the raiding mindset, both fauna and ina refused to do it
>>56803910Bold of a fucking midget to say that
More gpt4 translations from that Cover page. Most of the comments are pretty reasonable and there are people on both sides. It's exactly the same as here. I'm actually shocked at how similar we are.
>>56803679
>>56803747>management had to guilt-trip into joining
>>56803916>posts a niji due to graduate
>>56803955Sisters? Any explanation?
>>56803910It's their lot in life to suffer.
>>56803916You're just not relevant enough to shitpost about.
>>56803853those aren't tits, they're fat from the back squeezed towards the front
>>56803888Still looks like Hololive is in TikTok. So. In bilibili probably next.
INA JUST STOPPEDCAN BIBOO MAKE IT TO 10K FROM A FUNNEL IN THREE MINUTES BEFORE FUWAMOCO START
[Biboo news] The bats are idols
>>56803916>t. deadbeat
>>56803589>>56803955oh bot testing before the big mysta event
>>56803989Please, Lui-san, we really need this to be a success. I promise, you won't even be in VC with the Holostars.
>>56803955For perspective. That's his ceiling for some actual streams.
>>56803960Its probably better you dont open the pandoras box for Ina. She might just raid the extended 'Hololive family' aka TEMPUS
>>56803970>average internet user when he realizes people of all skin colors in most nationalities end up being pretty much the same types of people when exposed to similar institutional societies
>>56803913The way the Stars waste money is in more of an abstract opportunity cost type of thing than an actual "being in the red" situation.
>>56803905They will choose better stuff when the reality of not having those debut numbers really sets in.
>>56803466>Even if the Stars are pathetic, low life scum, they're 20 times better off than chatkinda funny considering there are people in the girls chats that are way more popular than stars
>>56803567Eh, it's neutral for Gura considering her other shortsHonestly, most of the holosummer shorts have had mediocre performanceIt's mostly the early ones and holos that are already popular on the shorts algo that did well, then the views petered offWhich is understandable since it's basically the same-ish content repeated for each holo and that the buff factor of swimsuits has been thoroughly spoiled by now
>>56804033Only 10k Advent stream today is going to be Shori who is going to raid baby her way to it.
>>56802631gura stopped streaming when management started their bullshit homo push again>>56802776the talents obviously know before it gets announced retard
>>56804074Even Bae, Mori, Ame, and Kronii won't raid Tempus.
>>56803905Nerissa will be the sub 5k runt of Advent. She can still get more subs than the others bar the twins with music buff, probably more SC than Biboo too.
>>56803575Manjisanji has always been like that.
>>56804091I think that's definitely true for the MAJORITY of their existence. Like, the 2010s to 2022, for sure.But like, they spent a LOT of money on them in FY 2023 and the latter end of FY 2022. I don't know if that was significant enough to really change the formula on their costs, but I wouldn't be surprised if it did.Hell, Tempus alone got so much in terms of assets and investment and infrastructure setup, let alone Uproar, and whatever management staff were hired to keep them all going. And then there's the Hologra Boys stuff, the big 3D concerts, etc. Wouldn't be particularly surprised if that pushed them red.
>>56803970it's nice that cover lets talents to always blame their managers if talent makes a bad decision. I guess that's the upside of being a corpo
>>56802654If by when it was announced you mean 5 days ago then sure.
BAU BAU
Just as most people who homobeg don't actually watch homos, most people who shit on CGDCT (or unicorns or whatever word you want to use) would pick CGDCT over homo collabs when choosing what to watch. It's a bizarre world.
>>56804033Remember when Biboo was supposed to be the runt of Advent?
Gura is not coming back is she.Mission accomplished
>>56804282Learned their lesson from the one time they didn't let them do that and it caused a HUGE shitstorm.Like, fr, this whole thing pales compared to the Towa shit at the beginning.Funny how it's always Towa.
Why the fuck is MuBae or whatever it's called suddenly a thing this Japan trip?
>>56804167Who the fuck cares. Is all the same Hololive. Nijisanji. All vtubers are fucking underage whores. And rich people. Already with big money and connections. To the big fucking people like the Rockefellers and Rothschild family money. Too Blackrock controlling trough Mitsubishi stock money. And the administration are glowniggers by the way.
>>56804282>implying its a corpo thinga lot of indies also pass the blame to their mods and even bao passed the blame to her twitter handler
>>56804339Yes, it turns out everyone is fucking retarded and making predictions so early is equally retarded.
>>56802855No, now it’s the neonazi racist website that hates women.
>>56804365Really anon?
Senpais rolling in.
>>56804297She was probably asked days ago
>>56804341Successfully killed Advent's growth.
>>56804341Did she give any kind of warning about not streaming for a while during her last stream? I know, this is Gura, but you never know.
>>56804033Ina's funnel will probably just offset most of the viewers leaving to watch Fuwamoco.
>>56804368>Hololive is part of the New World OrderI fucking KNEW there was a reason I loved them so much, I LOVE the new world order! Let's fucking GO
>>56803955This is actual unironic 100% botting right? Like there is no other explanation right?
>nijisanji can't kill Cover>so Cover decides to do it insteadBASED RETARD GOD MANAGEMENT
>>56802806theres a huge chance of that happening especially with astel in the lineup
>>56804067Alright, I bit the bullet and opened the stream>no audio>dvr on>just background animation looping
>>56804365It's been a thing since December last year with ORK in Japan.
>>56803955Kek. Cmon now....be a little more discreet
AIEEEEEEEEEEE vox china landed in NA today
>>56804271I feel like if they have more than 2 managers than their in the red. I don't see them earning enough to give 2+ managers their salaries.
>>56804473People will keep worshiping Yagoo though
>>56802598Are retards really going to pretend that 6-10k is bad? Past is never coming back. Those 20k averages are never coming back.
>>56804297anon shit like this doesnt get made on the spottheres a huge chance that she was asked about it days ago especially since it was a @everyone
isn't fuwawa bored just looking and commenting all the time?
>>56804477Yeah he's the biggest red light of this He won't miss his chance to fuckboy his way in
>>56804443Shes doing what she can, when she can.
>>56804449remember we hate watame and the nwo here
Nice thread about numbers you have here.
>>56804153Gura is in Japan (but she won't stream while she's there).
>>56804314I remember seeing an anti unicorn who followed Nene(kawaii) and Kanata.
>>56804540She likes to watch
>>56803393It's a Samsung sponsored event retard bro...
>>56804511What do they make, $40,000 a year salary? Something like that?If you take all of Tempus, put all their earnings together, give Cover their cut... They can probably afford three full time managers, maybe three and a half.
>>56803905Yeah I think these are gonna be their normal numbersMore of a council 2.0 than a golden sankisei genI'm interested to see how good the numbers would be if there was a popular sandbox game where they can interact with all the other holos
>>56804449All vtubers are e-girls and part of the new world order. Is the first step to transhumanism.
>>56803913Who?Yagoo has a controlling stake.
>Kiara of advent
>>56804540Fuwawa and Mococo are the same person they said it themselvesSo she is also playing
>>56804524People were hoping for a Gura level streamer to elevate HoloEN, not a bunch of Council tier shitters
>>56804540I mean is chat bored of always watching people play games instead of playing it themselves?
https://youtu.be/gpvlUoIzGUQ
>>56804540Mococo plays all the games and baits SCs like crazy. Fuwawa just exists
kek /MANS/ sister unironically having a meltdown ITT. I mean look at their split and you realize it's ALL troons and fujo femcels lusting over those faggots. Why are they surprised straight dudes won't watch that shit?
>>56804633at best it would be 2 since not all of them are clown
>>56804671A streamer who never streams?>>56804665
>>56804726Fuck that. Fuwamoco is the best one.
>>56804671Anyone thinking there will be another Gura is delusional
>>56804724Haachama's back!
It's it sad this is on of Vox's highest streams recently and it's a mistake. It's just women chatting with each other
>>56804656You don't need a controlling stake to trigger things like audits, anon. Minority stakeholders have some level of capability for these things, otherwise they wouldn't have much of a reason to invest.
>>56804656dont need to have a controlling stake in order to ask for an audit anonif one of the bigger investors especially the corpo ones ask theyll have to oblige sooner or later
>>56804671They are all better than Council and will keep good numbers. Hell they are fucking Myth with the sole exception of Gura. Gura 2.0 is never fucking happening unless somebody pulls a corpo Neuro that actually acts like a real human or something. Or EN Salome.
>>56804633All of Tempus in 1-year ish contributed 274k to Cover from their SC earnings cut. Add memberships, ad rev, merch, some limited sponsorships ect. Enough to pay for a couple managers.
>>56804793*Isn't
>>56804724Of all people to usher her back in, it's Ame. Not a JP. Not anybody else. It's her wife Ame. Apologize.
>>56804793>mistakeit's just a bot test anon
>>56804734I bet Axel won't even look at their split anymore
>>56804365Suddenly? They've been bff, since debut. Same thing with Kronii and IRyS (but they were already friends before they joined).
>>56804524Yes. Tempoop and the latest Nijishit wave getting into 3views territory after a week? MASSIVE SUCCESS COPE AND SEETHE.Advent getting 6k after a month while under full overlap on ep 2 of a solo game stream? Complete failure.
>>56804633I know people say their little amount of profit is enough to keep them in the black but they don't account for the cost of the managers that needed for them to operate. The little profits maybe enough for 3 views indies but it's no way enough for companies that employee hundreds of people.
>>56804724Do you think Tupac is back every time they release something from his estate?
Advent will raid Mori karaoke stream
>>56804671>Gura level streamerYou mean a lazy cunt that only streams when she feels threatened or needs to remind people to buy her merch?
>>56804793I'm convinced this is some kind of bot test that was meant for a private frame. It apparated with just over 2k people already there and has only grown ~1.7k since.
i just like how expressive fuwamoco are.they use them more than most.i don't know when they will get 3.0 but i know they will use them a lot
>>56804959It's a rebroadcast.
>>56804793The reason why its getting bigger numbers is because its unannounced and sudden.You have to remember this is the same fanbase that keeps on posting that weird vox mantra/prayer as a way to not make him graduateAny sudden unannounced moves is grim for them
>>56804963fuck off sis, go watch your failures
>>56804895The fag barely gives a shit anymore. He's either on a break or trying to groom JP indies with RPR.
>>56804090That's not always the case. Even here in the English world people behave differently on different websites so I was surprised how similar it was to /vt/. I thought people there would hold their tongue but I saw a lot of comments saying they felt more free to speak there than places like twitter and a lot of in depth comments in general.
>>56804524JP is doing even better than Covid era. EN just isn't as entertaining.
>>56804978The same thing would happen if some Holo had an automated stream that went up. People would go there for the novelty of it, and the number would grow for like 30 minutes, until people eventually got bored and fucked off.
>>56804963You sound mad. Fact is Gura is still the top EN by far after 3 years.
>>56804457The simple fact that this stream even exists is suspicious for bots. It's like they're testing things out for the big graduation.
>>56805006Truth hurts?
>>56804917Not just managers, there's a whole bunch of costs that they incur.Remember how Axel was talking such shit before about how>Management said they'd be covering the costs for all of my cover songs? That alone is a pretty hefty expense, easily low five-digit sums of money going into that one.
>>56805055So true. Shaka is so handsome and entertaining.
Instead of trying to get male holo fans to watch the homos, why don't they try to attract female viewers?
>>56805079right back at you, truth hurts?
>>56804524You're going way overboard anon. Council can get decent numbers with non-debuff shit. Never said anything about 20k. Gura isn't a 20k average streamer. Asking for another EN that can hit 10k consistently isn't too much to ask for I don't think. Maybe the dogs, but still too early to say.
>>56805067I think you're misunderstanding. This wasn't a frame appeared, then people showed up. This was a frame appeared with people already in it.
>barely stream before>advent debut>stream frequently, often overlapping advent>advent start dropping to 4view>back to frequent break againWhat did Gura mean by this?
>>56805089I was so mad about that with how Kiara's music got treated the first two years
>>56805055No they are not. They are doing about the same. But Japan is a completely different world.
>>56805067>The same thing would happen if some Holo had an automated streamnot really since it has happened beforetheres usually slow buildup as more people realize whats going on instead of a sudden 50% of your current audience materializing out of thin air
>>56804339Most thought the runt would be either her or ShioriAnd that Nerissa would be similar to IRyS in that she'd have really buff karaokes relative to her other content, though given how her unarchived karaoke went, I'm not sure if that buff will last as long as it has for IRyS and Mooms so far
>>56805125women aren't attracted to dependent men
>>56805152It means she's the queen of EN, bitch.
>>56805125Why would women want to watch them, anonThey only managed like, one talent that had any form of interest from women, and it's because he looks and acts like the fucking Onceler
>>56800328Damn, the bit about the homos in the middle was cold. I’m not a beggar or anything and I’ll get shit for saying this but I think “unpleasant beings” is a bit much, and I think most of them having been laying low and trying not to mingle with the girls (not all of them). What I’m trying to say is it’s always been Cover and managements fault for the handling of them since the very beginning . Some of them seem like okay people. Maybe they should just break off from cover and start their own two view streaming group but unlikely.
>>56804793The fuck? there's no tweets about it either. Where did those people come from?Is anyone here subscribed to Vox, did you get a notification?
>vox "streams(testing bot)">amount of gura bait increases
>>56804939What do you mean? I saw him at Coachella a few years ago and met him in Serbia.
>>56805125Sounds like a task that would take hard work and talented performers. It's easier to just unproductively keep bashing your head over and over and over into the rock wall that is the Hololive fanbase.
>>56805125They tried that but they attract faggots, troons and femcels instead
>>56805266Many such cases. Do they think suddenly appearing and replying to themselves looks organic?
Fuwamoco bros... it's over isn't it
>>56804963If Gura streamed every day you nijiniggers would just seethe way more so what's the problem
>>56805067anon the frame appeared with people in itthe closest thing i can remember when it comes to holo is botan stream last year and even then it was a slow incline and not a sudden burst
>>56804633Tempus is basically HoloID tier, not profitable, but they aren't bleeding money (thanks to the clown). It's StarsJP that's in trouble.
>>56805149
>>56805069You're mad
>>56805125Women don't watch vtubers anon, what they consume depends purely on what's trending at the time. It's unreliable
Did they come from members? Why are they all saying "30 minutes"
Bettel buff.
>Nerissa didn't pass Fauna's zatsuWhat the fuck
Is this Marine game from the same people who made the Korone Dog God one?
No need to come here every time your botxiem bois streams anymore sis, are you a masochist?
>>56805359Praise be to the clown, may he be ever sated by the succor of his fans, so that his wrath may not befall those of us who seek glory in the fortunes of the Red-Stained Tally
>>56804443IIRC she wasn't feeling well in her last stream, but I thought that was her sleep deprivation due to BG3
>>56805152She doesn't feel threatened anymore
AHOY
>>56805152Congrats you're the one millionth sister to use this bait. Please head to the discord to collect your special gift card prize.
>>56805384That's just crazy
>>56805254lol no homos stay in the company because they know they can leech from hololive, its probably why shinove gave up on them
>>56804861When you count how much they paid the talents and management, along with what they spent on debuting and music snd whatever else they paid for, I doubt there was much profit left, if any at all.
>>56805435That's not a buff, he's straight up doing all the work.
>>56803532NIJISEETHE
>>56804793>It's just women chatting with each otherIf it's in earth runes, I'll believe you. Otherwise, it's probably gay people and trannies.
>>56805152she just assert dominance and left truly an alpha stacy
Shiori's waiting room is GRIM
>>56805514That was already calculated with the talents cut removed.
>>56805432I don't think these are bots, where are they coming from?
>>56803567>the runt of councill losing to the runt of holoforcengmi
>>56805335>Elden Ring>Only Up>Marine game>NobetaThey did it to themselves
>>56805432i think they are trying to guess how long this stream will last
>>56805435I wonder if it's painful to carry an entire fucking branch on your back like that man doesBro's existence can turn a Raspberry King Contender into a Vesper-tier CCV generator just by being there
>>56805125What female audience Hololive has, came for cute girls, not dudes.
>>56805125Despite tempiss having literal homos, they are afraid to do significant female pandering in order to retain their nonexistent male fans
>>56805610>greys watching Vox
>>56805610These are the ~2k that slowly trickled in after it appeared. It's the initial 2k that's probably bots.
>>56805432>>56805610see>>56804998
>>56805591>Shiori's waiting room is GRIMThe three ongoing Advent streams are Shiori's waiting room because they're all going to raid her.
>>56805610>the greens are mostly CN
>>56805610Unique chatters/ chat speed data would be revelatory for this.
>>56805125Female percentage of Holo watcher did increase. There are indeed more women on this hobby now
>>56805384 Bot practice? Because how the hell would 2k already be there?
FUWAMOCO MOGGED LMAO
lol
>imagine fishing for 9 hours without anyone biting your bait, couldn't be me.
>>56805629Dude is the most blatant example of a talent trying to push their audience to their roommate since Mori.
Is Biboo the new Fauna?
Vox...
>>56805749Based. Show those Advent shitters who's boss.
>blaming Gura when advent have been overlapping each other since debut
>>56805770really weird how posts that have nothing to do with hololive proper can be posted there instead of the holostars subreddit
>>56804861>>56805594source? because last time tempus numbers got posted it was only around $120k and I doubt tempus 2 brought in $150k worth of revenue especially when their debut crippled starsjp income.
>>56805774what's the sauce for this
>>56805839>attempting to restart the timeloopkys
>>56805770Hololive?
>>56805770I've never sent a SC. Some people are just bad with impulse control.
>>56805770Why is this in r/hololive?
>>56805713It's funny, because I've been running the con circuit for Hololive for a good two years now, about as long as the con circuit has existed in North America for Hololive, and I've literally only ever met two types of people:>Men who are into the Holo girls>Women who are WAY more into the Holo girls than most of the menI never see girls who are super in for the bros. Except like, one cosplay chick I've met up with a few times that's making a Bettel cosplay this year. But still, I've mostly just met, like. Teamates, Deadbeats, KFP, Hoomen, Saplings or IRyStocrats, surprisingly on that last one.
>>56802436might be good, keeps the chudbuds out at least. she'll be more like en kaela too
>>56805770There’s an 80% chance Flygon or his manager wrote this himself.
>>56805854Not enough updoot
is nobeta that much of a debuff?
>>56805832>Bae beating FWMCI am vomit
>>56805839Did Gura ever raid Advent?
>>56805770>it's an obese spic woman with BPD, PCOS, and ingrown toenails who's addicted to online ERP
>>56805911For western audience yes
>>56805911no idea but i know that some normalfags call it the pedophile game
It's been almost 24 hours since /#/ - Numbers become /#/ - MANS2
>>56802505>he doesn't know about the bitchute streams
>>56805749>marine game mega buff>JP buff>off collab buff>post anniversary buff>not even 1k aheadLMAO
>>56805858Playboard + Windows 11 Calculator App
>>56805770time to see if they did opsec reps
>>56805911Yes. They got 11k on morning stream during lots of overlap
>>56805911IRyS once positioned herself to get the funnel after a 3D showcase with Nobeta and only got 5k with it. Like a 30k+ stream ended and she had zero overlap.
>>56805976I mean.We've all seen their Twitter, I don't blame normalfags for that impression
>>56805966Damn, it's always brown
>>56805911Playing video game debuff. FWMC should just do zatsus only from now on.
>>56805860/HiRyS/
For those who are unaware of how debuff Nobeta is, allow this graph to remind you that IRyS started her Nobeta stream directly after Kiara's 3D showcase finished... and well, look at the result when she wasn't overlapped by any other HoloEN streams.
>>56806017this is a weird one and the rabbithole keeps going
>>56805966grimhumanity has reclined
>>56806006so same source as the previous guy who posted, how much did tempus 2 rake in revenue? whats the breakdown?
SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEXXXXXX
What number did mike the cat get with the marine game?
>>56805860/HIRyS/ they have a koikatsu anon that does some good work
>>56805770This person's post history is horrifying. I'm not even annoyed at her, I just feel bad for her.
>>56806099Why didn't Takanashi "Please Raid Me" Kiara raid IRyS?
>>56805929I mean even Mori got 7k with that game. MuBae offcollab should be an easy 10k.
>>56805929moom cute
>>56805858Dont think his source is accurate since just by checking at the available numbers quickly and doing some simple math most of their revenue is around 150-170k range and thats before yt, cover and tax cuts
>>56806217The raid culture was mostly used for events (or by Fauna) until they hired a bunch of twitch streamers.
>>56805266
>>56805911its a fairly niche game without much tourist pull
>>56806099Is there a reason that Fuwamoco picked this particular game?
>>56800139>THE iDOLM@STEROption automatically fucking discardedThe reason I even entertain the hobby in the first place is that I don't want to see these retards
>FWMC 5.5kThe novelty wears off....
>>56806217Fuck off. Kiara raided IRyS' birthday with 20k plus viewers.
>>56806217Kiara doesn't give out numbers. Only takes them.
>>56805432This got me put in timeout
>>56806138226k in revenue (after Youtube cut) from SCs. Split 50/50 between Cover and the talents. Non-SC revenue data is not publicly available.
>>56806312If I had to guess: cute girls + voices by Senpai
>>56805966Jesus christ. She(?) is a walking bundle of red flags. What a terrifying post history
>>56806373Only timeout? damn
>>56806373
>>56805774There is something so fucking sexy about anime girls that are only covered by towels
>>56805858>>56806138Working with just Spachas and Just Temp2:>Flayon: $43,000>Shinri: $62,000>Hakka: $74,000>Bettel: $164,00043,000 + 62,000 + 74,000 + 164,000 = 343,000IF "Cover takes 35% of SC revenue" = TRUE;THEN:>$343,000 * 0.35 = $120,000I can assume Temp1 generated about the same, if not slightly more, due to first mover buff
>>56804339I said she'd be the most popular later on.
>>568062173D showcases doesnt raid anyone anonAlso for the record, FWMC 1st Nobeta stream was 5view, it was on a comfortable weekend timeslot with no overlap
>>56805351Isn’t that how Kuzuha always does it?
>>56806312Maybe they like the game and it's not a bad game. There are characters voice acted by some holos too.
>>56806435Probably an auto moderator that just blocks that word entirely.
HoloEN is getting giga culled right now.
>>56805966No really. Who ELSE could be watching Fagyon? Even normal women would find that "dude" disgusting.
Wow 4 council streams tonight
We love Vox here
>>56803970>Most of the comments are pretty reasonable>It's exactly the same as hereAnon?
>>56806373>>56806435>Enna profile picture
>>56806565I unironically used to
>>56806540Subcontinentals.
This game Vox is playing is Beautiful, I love it. I'm having a great time.
>>56806373Ennaschizo...
>>56806120I kinda wanna rewatch that.
>>56806565Yes we are Chinese here
>>56806312Because Fuwawa wants to see Nobeta running in a swimsuit
>>56806312It's voiced by HoloJP girls.
>>5680652026k box is decent for Advent + half of Council. I'd say it'd average to each gen pulling in 15k each.
>>56806312They're lolicons
>>56806565When his dick was solid he was okay.
>>56806565We love Vox's tweets here
>>56806623I dont know what this meansStreetshitters?
>>56806620Love? Seemed more like lust to me.
>>56806373You should've done Free Hong Kong/ Tibet instead.
>>56802999I stopped watching niji girls because the old ones stopping being exciting (finana, rosemi) or became constant male collabers (pomu, millie, etc.) and the new ones are just sucks
>>56806725I desperately lusted after that man's twitter content like you wouldn't believe
>>56805911It’s a good game. Literally the only reason anyone talks about them is going all in on pandering to lolicons to cover for the game being mediocre
>>56803970>Most of the comments are pretty reasonable>It's exactly the same as herePick one and only one
>>56806312Polka
>>56806653Sadly the game locks the swimsuit behind max upgrade for the ice magic spell books, scattered in well hidden spots. I remember chat had to backseat IRyS so hard because she wanted it.
Don't look at Shiori's waiting room
>>56806103This person is really weird he keeps complaining about students but from what i can tell he's a TA for pre school kidsAlso his larp as some kind of tradcath in reddit is weird since he is very openly gay in his soc media even if its from SA
>>56806312Because Fuwamoco enjoy otaku-targeted (particularly lolicon) games like that.
>>56803575Well they're back to twitch way, where female attach to upper male streamer for spare ccv.
I have literally never seen a waiting room post that isn't a blatant shitpost
>>56806877never had any intention of clicking on that shit king
>>56806877Doesn't matter when she's getting multiple raids anyway.
Man what happened to GX_Aura's 75k ccv?
>>56806961There was that time during Advent debuts where people fucking lost it at how absurdly large their rooms were getting
>>56806992MOST INFLUENTIAL THREAD
>>56806877Waiting room doesn't mean anything to Advent since raid is a thing, unless bitchboo outlasts everyone and hold half of advent box hostage
>Only gained 5k subs after the showcaseIs that good? I honestly expected more than that
>>56802999I don’t have brand loyalty. I had watched Coni, Roca, and Momo in Idol Corp, but dumped it for EN3. I had left Council before the homo problem started. I tested Nina out in Niji, but left that too just before their homo EN. I don’t like the homos at all.
>>56806877
>>56804091Anon, EVERYTHING has "opportunity cost"Yes, even pulling out of China, or debut HoloEN, or keep HoloID, or debut Holostar 4 fucking years agoAlso, again, I want to remind you that Cover have never, EVER, in their 5 years of existence, firing or pressuring anyone to go away because of monetary reason
Unicucks status?
>>56806667No. Clearly they are getting giga culled. This is literally not their usual numbers right now.
>>56806992Damn, Pan is doing that well? Good for her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97f8xj241oUnumbers?
>>56807051Not bad, considering she'd been using the 3D already. Not a LARGE amount of dry powder that could be used for the Showcase.
>>56806379if we go by this>>56806451then revenue should be around 230-40k and not 270k
>>56807063Show tits
>>56807063What a great way to announce that you are brown
>>56804271Anon the stars aren't earning negative money, they don't earn as much as hololive but there's no reason to suspect that the money they are spending on the stars aren't being earned back. It's not like they are blowing money on golden limousines and the like
Only 19 till shiori
>>56807160Hold on, I'll run the numbers for Temp1 on their own.They should generate higher return for Cover than Temp2 did, so it should make sense
Sigh sisters are mad again. Can't you just fuck off and watch vox cock sucking ASMR or something?
>>56807132Maybe 5k?
>>56807051you expected more on a platform that heavily censors hololive?
Hey guys! Remember me? Have you seen Connor???
>>56807051>1k more than Mumei in the past weekNot really, depending on when Mumei has her showcase I could see her getting 1M first
>>56807132Rebroadcast? Might make cripple tally
>>56806451Where did you get 164k for bettel? My numbers has him on 130k
>>56807105Winning, homobeggars in shambles
>>56807236At what point is commissioning new outfits just a monthly charity to the artist?
>>56807236Sorry, I don't recall at the moment. Maybe a subathon would jog my memory.
>>56804861...isn't this total less than every individual holo EN except Sana and maybe advent so far?
>>56807206why not just hire 100 holostars then if there is no operating costs associated to them. they can all be 2view shitters no problem its passive income
Good and bad about the twins>good: haven't dropped a game so far>bad: they won't be dropping any kusoge in their let's play
>>56807347There is operating costs associated with them, they just aren't more than the money they bring in
>>56807236I heard her symbiotic parasite is removing himself from the internet or something but i dont care enough to look into it
>>56807340No
>>56807362Honestly their Little Witch stream is actually entertaining, but their personalities are carrying that game.
>>56806490kuzuha actually announces his streams anon and even his random guerilla streams has a slow buildup instead of a sudden 50% of your viewerbase being on the stream. hell even smaller vtubers with a much lower and tight knit community cant achieve this.
I CAN FIX HER
>>56807160>Axel: $99,000>Magni: $108,000>Altare: $125,000>Vesper: $147,00099,000 + 108,000 + 125,000 + 147,000 = 479,000>$479,000 * 0.35 = $167,000 (rounded down)$167,000 + $120,000 = $287,000 in net revenue for Cover from Spachas for Temp1/2 combined.>>56807286Playboard
>>56807362I wish they’d drop gimmick games like nobeta. I like seeing Holos try different games, not all of them are worth completing.
>>56807362Just introduce them to minecraft already goddamnit
>>56807362Their PL had 13 streams of a VN that had less than 50 people watching it on average. They don't give a fuck about numbers. They just want to play what they want to play and share the joy they get with those who are interested in watching. It was always going to be this way.
Oh so this is the kind of horror game the marine game is
>>56807347You could do that, but it dilutes your brand. Especially what Nijisanji does with VTA. It's still profitable.
>>56807520Nobeta isn't a long game, unless they are massively fucking up they should be able to beat it in two streams
>Biboo is strongest among overlapped streams right nowPebble STRONK!
>Yet another Asmongold HoloCure videothis nigga really wants Cover to notice Mythic so he can get some collabs huh
>>56803955100% botting and 100% an unpaid niji intern is getting punished for it
RUN BIBOO RUN!
>>56807512287k should be enough for 4 managers and thats not including middle management and upper management
>>56807684Started first buff.
>>56807684I stopped caring about biboo after learning about THAT. Turns out it's actually real.
>>56807206I think they’re net positive but they don’t make anywhere near the profit needed.Just look at how drastically their events and merch tie-ins got cut this year compared to previous years (Shinove years), it’s pretty obvious that management isn’t being as nice with them. Still, being reckless with this OW2 sponsorship feels like it’s a last ditch effort to make them appealing to sponsors which is just gonna have negative side effects in the future when they realize they got gypped.
>>56807592>They don't give a fuck about numbers.>doing a karaoke almost every week>putting up a sub counter during Spooky's despite not being likely to reach 500k that stream>frequently mentions sub cover view counts during FWMC morning>500k celebration>spreading their streams across every time zone to avoid overlap and throw a bone to every time zoneUh huh.
>>56807716He has the two ex-vshoujos who directly talked shit on hololive.
>>56807780No it's not
>>56807716Anon how new are you?Asmon is just there to grift he doesnt care about mythic, hololive or vtubers in general.
>>56807780kys.you're actual scum.
>>56807780You know "that" is real for 2/3rds of the EN branch right?
>>56807716Anon he doesn't know about hololive, he just plays the game because it's fun and his audience loves it
>>56807780Kill yourself immediately subhuman
>>56807592>They don't give a fuck about numbers>wanting 1 million subs in a year
>>56807814It is, anon. Her old tweets link back to Wabyuu
>>56807340>>56807512Compared:Council(RyS)>Sana: $188,000>Mumei: $346,000>Baelz: $432,000>Fauna: $494,000>Kronii: $494,000>IRyS: $623,000188,000 + 346,000 + 432,000 + 494,000 + 494,000 + 623,000 = 2,577,000>$2,577,000 * 0.35 = $901,000 (rounded down)
>>56807800So did Vshojo and Ironmouse still got collabs.
>>56807800Meh, things change.Veibae probably still dislikes Hololive I'd bet but Silvervale is just an idiot who was trying to be a company partisan in a clumsy way
>>56807800And one of the most prominent drama vtubers that may or may not have something to do with Fred and Barney being disappeared for almost two months now.
>>56807780What?
>>56807780Why are kikeks like this?
>>56807854Which ones are safe?
>>56807627Its profitable for niji since they dont have to give their livers or even majority of their managers salaries and they get to keep majority of the merch and music revenue.
>>56807917I don't think silvervale has ever talked shit about hololive
>>56807875>making shit up
>>56807971Don't forge being able to plate Riku's yacht in play buttons
>>56807780
>>56807800>>56807923>>56807917>>56807981see>>56807830
>>56807854Can you be more clear on what THAT is?
>>56807981she did.i remember the interview she did.
>>56807236No, I haven't seen the brown guy that roleplays as Connor.
>>56807236When is her new outfit
>>56807875God I hate kikeks so much
>>56807981Missed the old Dexerto arc with our favorite vtuber beat investigative reporter Andrew Amos?
>>56807785Isn't it better just reverse the schedule if they want to benefit Stars for the sponsors? Have the girls do the pve and than have pvp with Stars so they can bet on more viewers tune in for the pve part and wish most of them stayed for the pvp part.Now with the girls only there to join the pvp, it's not really inticing to watch to begin with.
>>568078962 years vs 1 right? 1st year is usually the biggest SC time, so I doubt Tempus makes as much in their 2nd year, but it's still not an even comparison.
>>56807981ok andrew
>>56807236you called my queen
>>56808063You mean the one where the interviewer put his words in her mouth?
>>56807875They don't even have the same voice sister
>>56807780Post THAT, coward
It's real. No need to burry your head in the sand. Follow the chain and look it up yourselves. >>56799354
>>56808010>copingburying your head in the sand doesn’t change reality
>>56807981It's unclear if she even said anything bad, given that reporter was just freelance paraphrasing whatever he felt like.
>>56808090>>56808123>>56808063Have you forgotten that Andrew was the one who put the hololive comparison in his article and not a quote from silvervale?
>>56807311not a problem for her since that where most of her "charity" money goes
>>56808148The one where he retroactively rewrote what she actually said because it was unnecessarily abrasive
>>56807780I mean it was 3 years ago so maybe there's a chance...
>>56808188Why are kikeks like this?
>>56808188You know you just proved it's not real right?
>>56804793So with the confirmed bots, we can conclude he a sub 2k shitter now.
>>56806058Yeah, but you know ... People like to scream "Based" but I'm interested to see their sales figureThey DID collabed with Hololive after all
>>56808172The entirety of /#/ knew she was Waabyuu before you even got here newfag.
>>56808217and that came straight from silvervales mouth anon
>>56808247Kikek please
>>56806217The retention of such a raid would be horrific
>>56808295>>56808320Why do Nommies tweets link back to Wabyuu then?
>>56808217>believing the damage control the interviewer did to save his favorite streamer from the backlash
>>56808120Let's do another comparison, because you aren't wrong.Advent:>Biboo: $35,000>Nerissa: $38,000>Shiori: $40,000>Fuwamoco: $66,00035,000 + 38,000 + 40,000 + 66,000 = 179,000$179,000 * 0.35 = $62,000 (rounded down)They've hit the halfway mark on Temp2 (which had eight months of uninterrupted time as the only new talents) in two weeks
>>56808306I'm talking about the other person slow chama...
>>56808359Why are kikeks like this?
>>56808188Biboo doesn’t care about unicorns, fuck off.
>actual unironic Vox fans ITTexplains the mentally ill behaviour of this board.
>>56808120I mean you can just compare it to sana and see how big the difference isnot to mention some of the en autists hate sc and disable it a luxury stars cant afford
>>56808359She was hacked for sure
h-he's gonna use THATM-MASAKA