/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Anyone who shitposts using daisenpai should be castrated

If people were here for the boys they'd have more viewers without leeching from the girls.

This is now a Sora sex thread.

>>56790955
I'm not shitposting you unicorn seafaggot

I mean IRyS has been flirting with Oga behind the scenes for a while so this is why it's being taken so hard by IRyStocrats
Just another opportunity for those two to be together

>>56790904
Speaking to males at work? No. Playing videogames with them? Yeah.

Their job is to babysit lonely losers. I don't see how hard is it to just not piss off your audience of autistic virgins. Granted I doubt the overwatch stuff is their fault. It was probably blizzard demanting males in the ad so the game looks cool, and cover played ball because they don't realize blizzard and overwatch are irrelevant.

>>56790904
It's a matter of company and fan culture. Once that door opens just a little too much it'll be too late and then you're another nijisanji.
People want CGDCT, not another "le heckin wholesome coed family!" you fucking dumb fuck.

>>56790904
how hard is to take your meds schizo?

>>56790904
I don’t give a shit if they are coworkers, i don’t want them collabing or interacting on social media. If i want to see male and female coworkers interacting then i’ll turn off the steam and go to fucking work

>>56791182
>>56791143
>>56791196
oh the irony

>>56790904
>why do people still disagree with me after I tell them their reasons are stupid?

>>56791310
>b-but you
okay schizo

>>56790904
Poor quality entertainment we don't want.
Think of the INVERSE in sports.
Majority go to see men play sports not women. If they wanted to watch mixed gender or female only they would but they don't.
And in the same way, we fucking don't want mix gender or male chuubas

Almost all Twitch streamers are in relationships with other Twitch streamers. Why do you think chuubas and homos can't be lovers?

>>56790904
>Say you had a girlfriend or wife, would you prevent her from speaking to males
yes

>>56791376
Fair argument.
But that still doesn't warrant the amount of faggotry arising from this Overwatch 2 event. If anything people should be more angry they agreed to play that dogshit.

>>56790904
NijiEN is a good example of why people are against it. Same thing with flesh streamer groups like OTV. They'll all end up dating each other and bringing their relationship drama into their streams.

>>56790904
>He would let her gf or wife have a job
NGMI
Are you a cuck or something?

>>56790904
>Why is it so hard to comprehend that these girls and boys are here for your entertainment?
It's not hard at all, in fact it seems you are the one with issues understanding the situation.

>Say you had a girlfriend or wife, would you prevent her from speaking to males at work out of jealousy?
What a retarded example, gonna do one with food next?, vtubers are entertainments, they aren't family and never will be.

If you want to watch homos go ahead and do so, but some of us aren't into sausagefests so we don't, very simple to understand.

>>56791526
Virgin?

>>56790955
Shit skin detected.

>>56790955
Daisenpai hates unicorns. She wants unity above all else, and unicorns are enemies of unity.

>>56791600
post tits

>>56791374
>says unhinged schizo shit
>n-no, YOU'RE the schizo!

>>56790904
>are here for your entertainment
then why are they doing something i don't want them to do?
collabs with males are not entertaining to me
why do they exist if the goal is entertain ME and not themselves?

>>56790904
>your entertainment
>Say you had a girlfriend or wife, would you prevent her from speaking to males at work out of jealousy
It's not my entertainment watching girls playing around with fucktards. Would you watch your gf play hours with some guy while you watch?

>>56791919
>gets call out
>cant even argue
roru

>>56791517
Yes but I'm not saying we should embrace it as much as NijiEN does the open VC nearly every stream and a male joins almost all the time.
This is more in the context of "these people are from the same company so why can't they do paid promotion streams/events without their fanbases imploding."
The once in a blue moon Stars and Live collab can be fun like Roberu occasionally interviewing a girl in his Bar Zatsus or the one time Kobo and that faggot Altaire interviewed some voice actor.

I fully embrace and enjoy CGDCT but the whole "remove all males" attitude that's seen may help damper opportunities like La+ getting on that one show to talk to some comedian.
>picrel

>>56792123
No one cares about some Ojisan or official broadcasts with Males. These are one time occurences.
No one cared that Marine collabed with Beat Mario and ZUN.
No one cared that Kiara interacted with Males on the Dokomi Stream.
Literally no one except those that want to stir up "Drama" because they are Pro Homo and are too retarded to get the difference.

The OW2 from Holizontal actually broke you and other every single fag making seethe threads about HomoJP. The board is on fire again lol

>>56792123
But I don't really care about some comedian, anon, I watch cute girls being cute girls. If I wanna watch comedian, I'll go watch comedian, if I want to watch someone actually good at the game, I'll go watch some bro fleshie.

>>56791965
There are a lot of streams so just find a different one to watch during that time. Do you always watch the same tv channel no matter what is on? Just change the channel when the infomercial starts playing. Not every show has to be enjoyed by every person. Nobody enjoys Overwatch 2 though; that's why Blizzard paid them to shill it.

>>56792362
then is it safe to assume every poster denouncing the overwatch 2 thing because of males is a retard and possibly esl SEAnig?

>>56790904
Why is it so hard to comprehend that mixed gender collabs are not entertaining at all?
Who outside of women, cucks and faggots wants to see that?

>>56791110
Holy fuck ogaman. Friend and ID pussies isn't enough he's going for the hafu now. Can anyone stop the libido of this absolute unit?

The way aruran and roberu are sitting down will never not be funny to me.

>>56792572
You don't understand the concept of oshis or a kamioshi do you

>>56792727
thought process was probably too nervous being around daisenpai and just do what she does to make it out alive kek

>>56790904
No EN can be professional like Sora

>>56792735
Yes, I understand pushing your oshi to succeed at her dreams. You don't seem to understand that your dreams might not be her dreams. She isn't a carbon copy of you. Sponsored streams are not forced on individual talents. If you are gonna support your oshi then support the fact that she chose to participate in playing that godawful game for money.

>>56793078
no i will not forgive my oshi playing overwatch

>>56792655
It does tick of a lot of boxes of what I said. However let me explain it this way:
The main issue is always that they are male eceleb/vtubers streamers since they do the same line of work.
You see someone getting intimiate with someone in the same line of work very often in the entertainment sector, like for example you see Actors getting into Relationships with other Actors often but not with Late Night Host or the Movie Directors.
So, them being a guest for some Male Interviewer or Comedian is irrelevant, a one time occurance as I said. Doing the same line of work makes it possible for them do this frequently.

>>56792720
only holoRU can stop this giganigga because it will have at least 1 cute but also crazy russian girl that makes michael looks tame

>>56793585
holoRU would get even less shekels than holoEU would. I don't think it's very profitable

>>56791110
is there even any proof that irystocrats are upset about this? pretty sure their threads got overtaken by shitposters

>>56793969
Yes, I'm irystocrat and I'm upset, no I will not show my membership

>>56790904
Sora got it right, many other girls, especially EN, don't. All unicorns ask for are considerations and some respects, hard to find many unicorns pissed at Sora for male collabs.

>>56790904
Can we just take a minute to realize that no one in EN besides maybe Fuwamoco has this level of professionalism and understanding of themselves in relation to fans?

Why the fuck would I watch my oshi get stolen away from me by the homos?

But for real though. The homos live in this board's head rent free. You're speaking to a wall here anon. Look at the frequency in which the homos get talked about on this board. They hate them so much yet can't stop talking about them. A decent amount of them are funny shit posts but there really are unhinged unicorns who get triggered at the sight of their oshi interacting with them. Saying shit like seeing them for entertainment is a mentally sound statement. Except that this board is fucking schizo most of the time. You'd probably find that you're a minority here. They don't even have to watch it but it bothers them so much anyway. And if anything, nobody should be watching this collab at all. The greatest sin out of this is them playing fucking Overwatch 2. What an ass game and fuck blizzard for ruining it.

>>56790904
>Vtubing is a performance.
You're at the verge of getting it. Obviously once she collabs with male then I no longer enjoy her performance and she gets dropped like a rock. Different fans have different limits as to how much they allow. As for me I simply don't like direct interactions, it's not what I came for or why I supported her in the first place. I came here for cute girls. Not for her to play with boys.

>>56790904
>are here for your entertainment?
I don't find males entertaining, so if they show up it isn't for (me).

>>56791517
>NijiEN is a good example of why people are against it.
but they are fun

>>56794567
Succinct and on point.

>>56794554
Sounds like you're just really insecure about yourself.

>>56794708
Good joke
I get that Nijiniggers like them and think their "humor" is fun but if you enjoy watching Hololive then whatever Niji offers is not for them. NijiJP has some watchable talents though.

Entertaining me means in part not making me uncomfortable. I don't want to be reminded of male competition, it's not relaxing and I'm not good at dealing with it. Professional interactions (which Sora is a pro at btw) aren't a problem and are rare, but if you get the sense they getting too close or god forbid flirting then it enters male-competition territory, especially if you get the sense they're chatting offstream too. It's foolish to fall in love with an egirl and idiotic to think you'll ever have a shot at her, but you can't watch a young, pretty, charming woman for hours a day every day and not start to get a little bit of a crush, unless they specifically pull a "mom" act like Nina Kosaka or a "one of the boys" act like Rin Penrose. None of the Holos come close to those two.

>>56792655
The initial stress was somewhat called for, but at least Lui said the girls and boys won't be speaking to each other. Still, it is worrying that it's a sign of more and worse to come.

Meanwhile at NijiEN, where crossgender collabs are embraced
>95% of collabs involve a male. There have been 3 month periods without a single female-only collab
>males inserting themselves into the stream of their oshi to hit on them in front of her audience as a power move (Luca)
>Reimu often flies to the UK to meet Vox in person. Vox lies to his chat about it. When she returned Reimu bragged about knowing where Vox keeps the keys to his house
>Enna and Kyo call their fans a bunch of cucks and hold hands on stream as they offcollab in her bedroom. Posts NTR comment on twitter because "it was funny".
>Giant mixed-gender hotel meetups, and some more private meetups literally streaming from the hotel room together. This includes pairs where one member is known to be in love with another like Shu/Elira or Enna/Kyo
>Major reason for signing up for the branch is the opportunity to meet/attempt to fuck your oshi. Several people have signed up under these pretenses including Ver, Meloco, Kotoka, Aia.
>Girl's lose a tremendous amount of their male audience, exchanging them for fly-by-night females who vanish whenever a male starts streaming.

You really wanna go down this road?

>>56793585
Oga's ex- tried to strangled him. A Russian menhera is nothing against the Ogaman.

>>56790904
that's nice but Sora isn't GFE, her fan name even explicitly friendzones her viewers

>>56795174
>>56792123

>>56795150
>It's foolish to fall in love with an egirl and idiotic to think you'll ever have a shot at her, but you can't watch a young, pretty, charming woman
I was born a fool then. But you know, even a blind chicken finds a grain. I have beaten other bad odds before. Also Marine isn't young and neither am I.

>>56791613
So she wants the death of Hololive? That doesn't compute.

>>56795305
reading comprehension-chama....

>>56790904
>Why is it so hard to comprehend that these girls and boys are here for your entertainment?
Two points here, 1.- the boys are not entertaining or at least not at the same level as the girls and the numbers show it 2.- why is it so hard to comprehend that we are there to support the girls? Not the boys

>Even if they do perform with the opposite sex you know it's strictly in a business sense as coworkers.
Ah, that really worked out very well at nijiEN right?

>Say you had a girlfriend or wife, would you prevent her from speaking to males at work out of jealousy?
The moment she gets a job is when you failed as a man.

>Yes I can understand the concept of "betrayal" with GFE when it comes to their personal lives. But if you can't have full confidence in your idols' interactions with their coworkers and other performers then you never should have gotten into this hobby in the first place.
Huh? Are we talking about the same company were Mel got sekkuhara'd, a trap got fired for being a sexpest, Chris got fired for being a whore, the zombie got fingered live, and the EN retard got suspended for being a sexpest trying to go to japan to fuck the girls? Are you asking me to trust that that same place will remain profesional with intergender interactions? Delusional, this is for the best.

>>56795342
She is 17 anon, I guess that's too old for you huh? Well you are out of luck since she likes young boys too, not balding ojisans

>>56794740
And? We're not school kids in a classroom where we're forced to be one place so we have to force ourselves to enjoy each other's company. I made a deliberate choice to come to her stream and join her membership, in exchange I want to see her being cute on screen. If don't get that I simply move on. Obviously, I feel the need to complain if I'm already emotionally invested. But I simply won't waste my time and money on an experience I don't wish to have. I'm not paying to be a third wheel.

>>56795423
She only wants the death of (You).

>>56795174
This should be pinned somewhere

>>56795485
I meant her roommate, sorry for the confusion Anon-kun. I wouldn't have thought someone is thinking of actually wanting to marry a 2D girl.

>>56794924
but its genuliy fun I will never understand people hate for Niji

>>56790904
Just like Niji EN Right? for us

>>56795760
For you, but not for us. I actually just ignored NijiEn until they did Zaion dirty. I wasn't a fan of hers but watching them treat a person like that is disgusting.

>>56795760
I tried to watch them but they are just too different. It feels to me like watching your average western twitch streamer and I never was into watching streams prior to Vtubers/Hololive.
Pomu is cute though, the only one I care to watch on rare occassions.

>>56795743
So you wouldn't marry an actual 2d girl if you could? Marine is pretty cute you know, she can do all kinds of cosplays in bed I bet

>>56794708
Yeah, it's fun watching them crash and burn, but is not what we want for hololive

>>56795760
>its genuliy fun
>girls having a kino fun moment
>males burst through the door spamming twitch memes and talking about their dicks
>openly flirt with your oshi in front of you
no it's not. If the fans wanted to see male vtubers they'd be watching Holostars, they are not doing that.

Is Shien a supporter of unicorns?

>>56790955
Go kill yourself, you guys shit on EN all the time for it

>>56796230
Technically I could, but no until AI isn't advanced enough I won't care and I know a ton about AI to know that the point of where it would feel genuine to me isn't coming soon and if does it will be hyper corporate.
And having someone real has the benefits of having children.

>>56796303
Wait… homostars can actually be based? I assumed joining holostars by default made you a leech and a cretin, this is incredible to see

>>56796573
Most StarsJP actually know to stay the fuck away from the HoloJPs

>>56792123
It's easy to say now when you are trying to get your foot in the door. That's how slippery slopes work. And you clearly do not enjoy cgdct if you think celebrities count. Celebrities are as far out of the reach of the vtubers as the vtubers are for the audience. That's like the difference of someone getting upset with their wife for lusting after chris pratt versus them flirting with their boss.

>>56796303
Any of the homos that act like this I won't watch but I will wish them luck.

>>56796557
I meant as in real life 2d girl in person,but I get what you mean, honestly with most girls in holo or in general vtubers I like, I can't say I would want marry even most of them, but to talk to them, to see how real they are would be an experience that's for sure. Imagine looking at real Marine tits and she knows you looking and now it's embarrassing because you aren't behind the screen

>>56792123
>The once in a blue moon Stars and Live collab can be fun like Roberu occasionally interviewing a girl in his Bar Zatsus
You mean his offpako shenanigans? No thanks

>>56796303
Based if true.

>>56796901
>real life 2d girl in person
What? That makes no sense.

I don't find on-stream flirting to be entertaining. If I did, I'd watch those weird shows where a group of guys tries to date a group of girls in some big shitty house or whatever and they have to eliminate someone with a vote every week.
I watch chuubas to see anime girls playing vidya, not some matchmaking bullshit. If they want to flirt they should atleast have the decency to do it off-stream. That being said if I was a homostar I would totally flirt with all the girls and try to fuck every single one of them, just for the glory. So I don't really blame them, it's just what any man would do.

>cute girls doing cute things
*but then*
>POOOOOG poggy pog pog!
*males burst in*
>FUCK I haven't cum in about 10 days my BALLs are so FULL of CUM!!
*girls get mobbed by the males and the joke is over*
>"hehe hey girl wanna go to the strip club together? plane tickets are cheap right now?"
*defensive posts calling them just friends*

>>56790904
Is Sora a whore?

>>56796573
The JP stars are pretty humble guys. I know most people here are only familiar NijiEN males or Tempus and see them in a similar light, but JP is held to a higher standard. When it comes to interactions with the girls, or even just comments about them, they are professional. Oga was the first one to stream Holocure, and a chatter asked if he would be added to the game. His reply was along the lines of:
>That's really difficult to do. It would be better to add all of the JP girls first. Prioritizing the JP and ID girls is more important.

>>56790904
you faggots think making a polite pitch for your homos is going to win people over? it's not happening

>>56790904
>entertainment
>literally no one in core audiences on either side are entertained
Kill yourself homobeggar faggot

>>56790904
>they are here for your entertainment!
>what do you mean you don't find males taking over the stream entertaining?

To this day I'll never get the mental gymnastics you bums do to hyperbolize the fuck out of male-girl collabs. Absolute madness.

>>56799561
Anon it's not hyperbole if you look at the shit NijiEN is doing.
Ok? Here's an example from the last NijiEN offline meetup.

Enna and Kyo share laughing moments
>https://youtu.be/rEjyqSLqj6o?t=8156
>https://youtu.be/rEjyqSLqj6o?t=10233
>https://youtu.be/rEjyqSLqj6o?t=12320

Enna giggling about Kyo
>https://youtu.be/rEjyqSLqj6o?t=5209
>https://youtu.be/rEjyqSLqj6o?t=5720

Enna and Kyo sit next to each other like glue
>https://youtu.be/rEjyqSLqj6o?t=5502
>https://youtu.be/rEjyqSLqj6o?t=10208

Enna says she's in love, then meets Kyo's eyes
>https://youtu.be/rEjyqSLqj6o?t=7504

>>56799711
>finally gets delete in /NijiEN/
>shits up catalog instead
kys ennaschizo

>>56799711
I won't even deny this one. But is this mulligan representative of the whole? I don't get how the shitflinging's justified over two streamers who don't even subscribe to the whole idol mentality

>>56796303
>avoided reading every single comment and superchat mentioning pekora when he first streamed fgo
>never did a one-on-one collab with a holo (if you don’t count totsumachis) or collabed with them if he’s the only male present
I don’t know if that counts as being a unicorn supporter but he clearly knows his boundaries, at least

>>56799711
Based enna schizo, always with the links at hand

>>56799561
The reasons have been laid out multiple times in multiple threads for over a year now. What exactly do you not understand?
I'm inclined to believe you're a retarded beggar who's feigning ignorance since you can't even ask the question without flinging shit at the other side like a passive aggressive nigger, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

>>56790904
This drama is so astroturfed. /vt/ doesn't even watch Holo JP yet it looks as if most of the board cares about them collabing with guys.

>>56799561
>gets explained why it's bad based on precedents
>M-M-MENTAL GIMNASTICS SCHIZO SCHITZO SCHIZO

>>56801101
>This drama is so astroturfed
Nice job detective, any clue on who could be behind?

>>56792123
>Stars and Live
Reddit homobeggar detected

>>56795760
Fun for who? The overwhelmed population of female? The most popular girl in nijien barely get 3k and she herself said she have a majority of female as her audiance. Let me say it again, fun for who?

>>56796573
afaik jp homos are all really reasonable and cool. I haven't checked out the en homostars. The first male ens I gave a chance were nijien and that was a big enough mistake that I didn't bother checking with homo ens

>>56795174
niji are doing just fine

>>56801439
Probably the company losing a top earner in 4 days. Especially considering another talent is showing clear signs of rushing a song project because she's got one foot out the door and wants to leave something behind.

>>56802635
As expected of double-o peko, our best spy

>>56790904
>A lot of female fans
Funny to mention only Izuru, Temma, Miyabi and Rikka have a majority. The rest have a 50-50 male-female ratio but leaning to women. The ones with the most male fans are Roberu, Astel and Oga.

>>56802925
It's just Sora's impression, I think she's just not familiar with the Holostars community. She said the same thing when she went to Aruran's totsu for the first time, but Holostars' female fans have never minded collabs with girls. Even Izuru and Uyu who are the most isolated from women have played with girls and there was zero drama.

>>56790904
I do not find faggots with twink anime avatars to be entertaining
I would not let my wife work I will provide for her while she takes care of the children.
I trust my oshi perfectly fine, I just hate the faggot leeches that decided to shit up a stream and I am voicing my displeasure so they will not walk on my lawn again.

>>56790904
>you know it's strictly in a business sense as coworkers.
They're in the business of being emotional prostitutes for lonely men.

I don't want drama, just sex with Sora...

>>56791613
>Daisenpai hates unicorns.

Are you on drugs dude? Those are bad for your brain bro.

>>56802925
No one actually gives a shit about what percentage of male/female viewer of Holostar members have because they are way smaller fanbase compared to the girls and won't dare to start a drama, it was just her being considerate saying there are people that don't like mix gender collab and since it can become problematic so it's understandable that some people want to avoid collab with opposite gender

>>56790904
>...are here for your entertainment?
Yes, anons like you and the boys always seem to miss that vital part, because they are not entertaining which directly correlates to you and many others NOT watching or supporting them. But good on you for finally realizing that, self-awareness is the first step to betterment after all.

The biggest mistake Cover made regarding the homos was labeling them HOLOstars. By connecting them to Hololive they invited people to make comparisons as well antis chastising holos for ignoring their male colleagues. The boys will never get out of Hololive 's shadow. It would have been fine if Holostars was a separate entity entirely.

“Anti-unicorns don't understand the concept of the gentleman's game. When a woman decides to play the part of hostess and entertainer to an audience of men the men in that audience (to preserve peace) afford one another a certain amount of respect and deference. This is why a thousand unicorns can say they love their oshi and the streamer can say "I love you too" and none of the unicorns are jealous of one another. They are all on an equal playing field. They get to have their 15 seconds of recognition - they walk up to the belle of the ball, kiss her hand and a few of them get to have a round on the ballroom floor in a country waltz with her but at the end of the galla all the men who wanted some of her time got it and nobody has made real progress in courting her.
The male collab represents a fundamental break in the gentlemans game. The male collaborator is not on an even footing with the men in the audience. They are in a fundamentally unassailable more intimate position toward the belle as her co-worker. It's like trying to court the dame while her prize beaux is standing right next to her. Yeah, you can try but you aren't going to be in his place no matter what you do and that spoils the entire interaction.
That's why if the dame has a preferred suitor she needs to make her intentions and purposes very clear about it else wise she will embarrass and dishonor her other suitors by wasting their time and making them look like fools chasing a hopeless querry.

Unicorns have a fundamentally aristocratic mindset where as the anti-unicorns are fundamentally democratic. Neither is superior or inferior just contextual.
Chuuba's who don't want to engender that kind of dynamic in their audience need to be very clear about that from the very beginning or you will get the unicorns and they will raise a stink when the rules of the game they thought they were playing are broken. there cannot be mixed signals.
Unicorns need to stick to the GFE chuuba's because those girls are much more likely to honor the gentleman's game.“

>>56792655
Retard yes, SEAnig, not as much. Its again, fat whiteys with nothing much to complain about so they lash out at it.

>>56792720
If anybody deserves bitches, its that guy and Roberu.

>>56790904
95% of people who are invested in these vtubers have never heard of the concept of not dipping your pen in the company ink. You don't get involved with coworkers. It's such a stupid idea and knowing how much men foam at the mouths at the idea of their precious idols even thinking about a man, much less collabing with one, guarantees that these women would never get involved with their male coworkers. The notion that any of them are dating each other is ludicrous.

>>56799711
Based

>>56790904
Business is hard

>>56796303
He said he's fine with gachikoi in a past interview so the awareness is there.
https://web.archive.org/web/20210814031910/https://upstation-ntv.com/article/20210801holostar_shien

>>56790904
I don't want to see Holostars on my screen and I want to watch all streams from the Hololive girl. I can't do either when a collab happens so I get fucked over and thats no good. Simple.

>>56811452
For oldfags, can you guys explain why Holostars didn't blow up like the girls when the big 2020 boom happened?

>>56791503
If you think most of shitposting aimed at holos themselves rather than Cover is from holo fans you are a fucking retard

>>56790904
at first I didn't care but now I just have a grudge because of the fucking homobeggars like you, I just enjoy watching the homos fail because it makes you seethe

>>56794058
proof that she is flirting you retarded cunt

>>56791115
Playing videogames is part of their their work, you special needs moron

>>56795450
Imagine being so fucking insecure that you can't stand the thought of your wife getting a job. Maybe you should be a better man and get better salary you useless piece of nutsack. Oh wait no you can't, because you'll never have the experience of interacting with a woman unless she's skinwalking as an anime girl

>>56794567
I’ve never heard of a man who doesn’t find other men entertaining
Sports, comedians, actors, male friends, family
Is this normal? Is this a vtuber thing?

>>56795450
I think Suisei is doing pretty good

>>56827372
It's 100% a vtuber thing. It's even more insane than unironic simps because they at least don't claim to never find a male entertaining ever.

>>56799394
Millie’s fans are used to her moaning at random people and being loud
Her core audience is fine

>>56804966
Astel is the Matsuri of the Stars. He's unironically a man-slut.

>>56790904
The problem for me is that if they are GFE and collab with dudes, she is more intimate with other guys than me because voice chat+playing together is more intimate than textchatting. It breaks the fantasy for me, I can't handle it. If they are not GFE however, this does not apply, and I would not care about collabs or not, though the quality of the stream tends to be worse of in mixed collabs... or maybe it's just me who thinks that.

>>56827035
Cuck

>>56790904
The coworker angle doesn't even work since statistically the workplace is one of the most common places people find their partners. The only reason the angle works in the first place is because of the implication that the interactions will be as restricted as possible. But that's literally the only reason it stands as an argument, since being coworkers itself is statistically great grounds for building relationships.

I respect unicorns as the backbone of the industry, but Jesus Christ you fuckers are insecure.

>>56790955
Fpbp, dubs of truth
But OP is not shitposting

>>56828774
>t-trust me, n-nothing will happen
How is that working out for nijiEN?

>>56791503
People are angry about everything anon, and with homo involved saddly an infinite amount of faggotry as to be involved, see OP post, sister are participating in coversation, so you have many fujo, and their followers the fags. Put in simpy term since homo only audience are sisters and fag, when they are involved a whole bunch of fag and sister will come out and think they are smart.

>>56828774
>I respect unicorns
lol
>the backbone of the industry
lmao

>>56828774
>the backbone of the industry
I could see that logic as in, the total of ALL Vtubers, corpo indie and 2view....yea unicorns definitely save alot of otherwise dead channels

>>56829160
NijiEN is a product of dogshit management and ridiculously entitled zoomers sabotaging themselves. There are a myriad of core issues with that shithole that are more significant than boys and girls collabing. The main branch and other agencies do it fine enough without the talents coming across as extremely horny teenagers.

>>56829826
>NijiEN is a product of dogshit management and ridiculously entitled zoomers sabotaging themselves. There are a myriad of core issues with that shithole that are more significant than boys and girls collabing
>i-it's the main representative of male collabs in the west... b-but that's not why it's failing!!!! there are other reasons!!!!
Sure, bad management is why the girls audience is mostly female and they saw their income sky dive into the ground.

>>56829826
>The main branch and other agencies do it fine enough without the talents coming across as extremely horny teenagers.

>The main branch and other agencies do it fine enough without the talents coming across as extremely horny teenagers.
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>>56790904
>Why is it so hard to comprehend that these girls and boys are here for your entertainment?
Yes, and that's precisely why they shouldn't do intergender collabs. It ruins the entertainment. Now go back to twitter, trannychama.

>>56795423
She literally created Hololive. If there's someone I trust when it comes to Hololive, it's her.