/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>Omega didn't get fired
>He got promoted

nothingburger, the seethe will be funny though as usual. retards with nothing better to do in their lives will waste it worrying that the sky is falling

>>56745935
>beginning of the end
you cucks are so fucking dramatic

That's a lot of words to say nothing

explain

This is a fantastic way to get people to hate holostars even more! Good job, Cover!

>>56746310
you could always just not do that

ey bruv, no needta be a cunt ovah it yeh? dis is a fookin nothinburgah yeh?

>>56745935
>on , and
why cant japs into punctuation?

>>56745935

>>56745935
It's their attempt at an answer to Vspo, which has had skyrocketing popularity this year

>>56746459
who

>>56745935
yep. things were looking up and then they drop this shit

Wait, a gaming branch? hololive will hire Selen?

>blablablabla
If I wanted to watch GAMER STREAMERS I'd simply stick with Unou as everyone else are inferior.

>>56746360
Intern-kun probably missed a word there. Should be
>Our goal is to create a community centered on <something>, and...

>>56746346
I wouldn't have to dislike them if they'd stay in their fucking corner. I don't want to hate the Stars, I want to be ignorant of and apathetic towards the Stars.

>>56746642
Who. I'm sure that tard is obviously inferior to Aqua

>>56745935
>The beginning of the end for Hololive.
>didn't even mention the end of hololive
you fucking retarded clickbait clip watcher subhuman

>>56746730
why do you have this reaction, though? have you considered simply being indifferent instead of needing to shield your eyes from the existence of holostars in order to not have a meltdown?

its unironcaly over ...

>>56746459
I mean isn't Met getting like ~13k for her streams on the regular? She's like upper mid tier holo status.

>>56746828
Involving Holostars in Hololive stuff is changing Hololive.
I love Hololive as it is. I don't want it to change.

>>56711674
Yeah it's over alright

>>56746922
what is it changing exactly, and what does it do to make you unable to love hololive?

>>56746916
Lol, nope. Her sunday zatsudan stream is the only one getting 13k. Her gaming streams are sub 10k but can get 10k+ if she collab with nip twitch fleshies

>>56745935
they really want to become nijisanji

>>56747018
I don't need to explain this to you, you probably would claim to not understand if I did.
You can't talk me out of my stance on this, and I don't care about yours.

>>56746307
>>56744046

>>56746746
Aqua is an idol, not a gamer.

>>56745935
Wait a minute, how many "beginning of the end" is there?

>>56747069
if you can't explain it to anyone else you probably can't explain it to yourself, or are embarrassed to. the latter at least involves self-awareness, so try not to feel too bad about it if you fall on that end of things.

>>56747036
>Cover wants to make Hololive more like Nijisanji
>Anycolor wants to make Nijisanji more like Hololive
Many such cases

>>56747154
Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.

A lot of Gen 0 - 2 used to and still do collab with males. How did Hololive become a place where collabing with males was controversial? I’m assuming it wasn’t always like this, since the early talents clearly collabed with males back in the day.

>>56747155
You aren't asking in good faith, so why would I reply in good faith?
Do you think you can talk people out of disliking the Stars with this kind of adversarial dialogue? No, you don't. So you're not actually trying to achieve that, e.g. acting in bad faith. You're just stirring the pot.

>>56747206
It began with Gen 3, which became mega successful, so it became the new norm for Hololive

>>56747240
i'm saying i think it's better for your mental health to consider at least pretending to grow up, if not actually doing it.

Finally, we won nijibros

>>56747301
Thanks for your condescending concern, which is also in bad faith.
For some reason a lot of holostars "fans" like to run around making bad faith comments to Hololive fans. If I didn't know better I'd almost think you were a stars anti trying to drum up even more hate!

>>56745935
fuck cover

>>56747350
no my disgust reaction is very much a sincere one, as is the condescension. being rude is not the same thing as acting in bad faith, just so you know. i'm telling you to grow up. i don't care about whatever gay tribalism schizophrenia goes on in your head, either.

>>56746307
People are thinking this will lead to more mix gendered stuff. I don't think anything will happen, but if it does

>>56747206
>How did Hololive become a place where collabing with males was controversial?
easy, it's not, that just ironic schizo posting /here/, nobody actually cares about that

>>56745935
Source ?

>>56745935
>Our goal is to create a gaming community centered on , and-
CENTERED ON WHAT?

>>56747720
my dick

>>56745935
I hope this means more things like community tournaments and competition

>>56745935
I, for one, can't wait for the beginning of trannylive.
Cute femboys speedrunning Super Mario N64. YES

AGP-Trannies domming four X games while vibing sephardicly. MHM!

Enby AFABs playing stupid indiegames while ranting about the patriarchy and hypocritically consuming highly questionable Boys Love media. OH YEAH!

Aidens shooting the shit about shipping with a bulldyke turned FTM. I NEED IT!

Yagoo, BRING IT ON!

>>56747829
i'd love to see that

>>56745935
>/vt/'s just gettin' a bit too peaceful

>>56747913
>GIVE WAR A CHANCE YOOGOO

Nijichads eating good tonight

>>56747549
It's already happening

>>56745935
How many times have you wrote this sentence? Though i agree they should just stick with girls only tournament

>>56745967
>It is well known that corpos in Japan are averse to firing people and that they often promote based on seniority rather than merit
I don't buy this rrat, but I couldn't stop my fingers from writing this

>>56747206
After Cover changed the direction and tee tee things became a thing. Until gen 2, they weren't pushing idol stuff and tee tee things weren't so common.

>>56745935
>Xbox
>Overwatch
Both massive in Japan, right? Collect your paycheck and keep the wordslop to yourselves.

>>56747649
https://note.cover-corp.com/n/n64e01d98e40a

>>56747486
Bro you totally owned that loser. Nice one. Everyone knows watching anime women play videogames is normiecore now. It's ridiculous that there might be a fucking loser and a manchild here, on 4chan, in /vt/ of all places. You tell these fucking nerds, bro.
you're fucking retarded.

>>56748113
Fuck, Irys too?

>>56748293
This will just fail. Although it's not even a big project. Its much closer to some indie game promotion. Its like Korone played and advertised Asscreed garbage a few times.

>>56747875
Fuck, I wrote this for shit and giggles but the idea of a trannylive vtuber agency is growing on me.
It could be like a comedy troupe.
I'll hire the least mentally stable, most stereotypical while still entertaining LGBTQs, give them complete control over design, game choice etc. They can be as political as they want. Only Enbies, FtMs and MtFs can join. I'll write to all of the news outlet and I'll get all the free marketing in the world. Twitterfags, even college professors will shill my agency for free to "support the cause"

Hilarious situations will write themselves.
When I ultimately get cancelled after my posts on a korean basket-weaving forum resurface, I'll just run with the money to some remote tropical-island-but-not haiti-tier-country and chill.

>>56748468
wait what's going on with irys? or do you just not like overwatch?

>>56745935
It would seem that all the money the fans spent on their favorite Holomem would go to prop up the dogshit shitty male branch that nobody asked for, and beyond; most likely because a party in the video game industry is bankrolling this "Horizontal" idea. In the end, all of your money was just a springboard for a corpo to get the bigger bag from investors. Thank you to all Holofans who superchatted to their oshi and gave them tens of thousands of CCV compared to the males. Thank you for the 20 million dollar studio. We'll be sure to use them for our mixed gender orgies.

>>56748536
She literally said she had no interest in interacting with homos in the past.

>>56748633
So they have to force talking with homo while being in the opposite team in a team game? How does that logic compute, that like being in vsaikyou.

Majority of Hololive/Vshojo are not even idols or virgins.

In fact they are quite the opposite. E-Thots and whores.

Why pay them money when there is much better to spend on?

>>56748693
>there is much better to spend on?
What do you recommend?

>>56747788
Not centered on much then

>>56748633
oh ok, honestly didn't know that, must have mentioned that in a stream i missed or smth
but she isn't even on a team with males so why even care?

>>56748693
this.
your oshi is not a virgin.
many of them have met male stars already.
what yagoo is pushing is still wrong. no one likes males.

>>56748750
Alot of other things. A better home, Cars, Video Games, Vacations, road trips, and tons of parties.

>>56748750
A dodge viper. 8.0l v10 yep baby pure raw driving machine

>>56748750
A Yacht.

>>56748750
A private island you can turn into your own country and military base so you could annex the surrounding nations, eventually going on to conquer the whole world.

>>56749002
Good luck with that, Big Boss.

>>56745935
don't worry, it'll fail miserably after backlash from the insane part of the fandom

>>56745935
>>56746392

>>56745935
what the fuck is this shit

>>56749287
It'll be just ignored.

>>56745935
Took them long enough. It's not fair to treat Holostars as the second class citizens when they're as talented, some are MORE talented than Holomems, not to mention that all of them are under Hololive Production brand.

This is the only place people are doomposting over this. When will you fags ever learn that 4chan is basically invisible to Cover.

>>56749869
I don’t need to come to 4ch, it’s all plain and visible that homos have no demand just by looking at their numbers. This is just foolish business decision

looks like its written to attract Wall Street's attention. There really is no escape from them, isn't it?

>>56750352
show MBA

>>56749002
Or selen and nocturnal's condom money

>>56745935
>regardless of nationality
is this a wink to the chinese?

>>56750505
>Mindbroken dragoon outing himself out of nowhere

Holizontal was already a stupid project, but a tolerable one as long as the girls got money from scamming sponsors. Then they decided to shoehorn literal who homos, so now it made sense the name. They couldn't shoehorn the homos into the hololive brand through the "Hololive production" bullshit, so now they are trying to create new brands to include the fags later. Give them a finger and the will pull your entire arm. If nip viewers don't chimp out and show them this is not what they want, they will suffer the same fate EN had before advent debut and the next sponsored tournament will have mixed teams

>>56750774
the homos have to make money somehow now that they have investors
unfortunatly, they can only do that by leeching off the girls like tumors

>>56745935
wow this is definitely bad for hololive, the company will surely fall off and go bankrupt because cover wants their members to play games together

>>56750824
They could just do like the wnba or women's football. Give them a share of the male league revenue while they do their own thing, not shoehorn them into the male team and tank the main show and it's revenue. Have the homos do their own stuff and give them some gibs, instead of dragging the holos down

>>56750824
always wondered where that androphobia comes from /here/ by some anons, is that like a suppressed trauma kinda deal where your dad touched you no-no-spot as a kid or something like that? it's very clearly not normal, obviously, so i guess something must have happened at some point, no?

>>56751069
last time I checked sports fans were salty about womens sports taking over the programming blocks on the cable channels they pay for

>>56750937
>some retarded schizos here actually believe this unironically
grim

>>56747875
>aidens
you are either one of them or way too obsessed with them. also that all sounds based, i hope we get trannerlive

>>56748633
I wouldn't really describe shooting up a bunch of npc opponents who happen to be piloted by males like any normal lobby while only chatting with your (all female) team as "interacting with homos"

If it turns into another Niji I would just abandon with no remorse

>>56751447
It would be hard for Cover to fuck up as bad as Niji.

>>56747206
The Hololive of five years ago is not anywhere close to the same as the Hololive of today. For the first year or so it was basically comedy skits and having fun on camera(very similar to Kizuna AI) because the standard vtuber format of "play video games while chatting" hadn't been established yet. The company was much smaller and there were very few talents. It was a lot like one of those Japanese shows that feature people who are famous for being famous reacting to various things, not an Idol group. As soon as the company started to expand and numbers surged through the roof it became taboo to collab with males because of the change in the viewer base.

>>56745935
thx for the money dummies

>>56747206
>Nijisanji was way popular than Holo.
>Gen 3 drops.
>Switch to the idol route.
>Start to become more and more popular.
>Covid and gen 4 and more idol stuff.
>popularity increases with no male interaction.

>let's play a dead game with dead vtubers
horizontal more like vertical decline

>>56745935
>We want everyone to give us their money, no matter what or who they are!
There's your translation

>>56745935
Here we go fellas, get out as soon as you can

>>56749869
if this place was invisible there wouldn't be multiple members of all the largest vtuber agencies accidentally caught having a /here/ tab open lmao

>>56752937
Reading reps anon.

>>56745935
Don't care won't watch anyway

>>56749863
If they're more talented they wouldn't all be 3view shitters. Izuru is an exceptional singer and can have a great future as a musician but spending 12 hours of his day playing Valorant alone on Twitch or restreaming a big tournament is a waste of his talent and why he doesn't grow, and pretty much all other homos have an extremely similar situation outside of Roberu who's the only one who gives a fuck and is trying to grow his brand. If they don't want to be treated as second class citizens they should stop acting like one.

>>56751288
Nah, I'm a bigot. Unlike most bigots. I'm an informed one. Can't hate something if you don't engage with it in order to understand it. I'm principled like that. The LGBTQABCMAPS community is an utter clusterfuck. Also Aidens make up the lions share of the detrans community while MtFs just tactfully shoot themselves in the head when the gender euphoria ends and reality sets in.

it's a tournament where the teams won't interact at all, so why are people getting so worked up?
>i-it's the principle of men being there!
when the girls play any online video game it's already more likely they're playing with other men. even if they don't interact with them, heck there have been multiple instances of holostars and the girls ending up in the same lobbies for certain games in the past and no one blew a gasket over it because they didn't actually interact with each other outside of playing the game.

>>56745935
>Have the most successful vtubing brand in the world built on the back of CGDCT anime culture
>Pivot into E-Sports when your core fanbase are notoriously hateful of FPS content
What's the business motivation here? Just buy Vspo if you want an E-Sports side branch, this shit will kill Hololive.

>>56747018
No homoshit in Hololive. Simple as. I'd rather the homos graduate than have them in a single stream with my oshi.

>>56747096
Her fps skills are a waste then, she should give it to someone else.

>>56755593
>when your core fanbase are notoriously hateful of FPS content
untrue, especially for japs

>>56745935
I fail to see what's wrong with this. Or are you being a dramatic faggot again, OP?

> regardless of nationality or gender
I fucking hate this PC SJW speak so much... HoloEN was a mistake, they got the freaks to invade Cover

>>56747069
No, explain it to us you fucking moron. Even if you are a slobbering 1-digit IQ retards, explain it to us normal people who have been raised right.

Just kind of a weird thing to do. Who asked for this?

>>56755684
>untrue, especially for japs
Pex ah ah ah ah

>>56755593
>What's the business motivation here?
Unironically trying to save the Homos. The chance of it working are less than the chance of it implode in their face. The homo are 2view for a reason.

>>56747205
It might even be the beginning of beginning, or the end of the end. Who knows.

>>56746922
Hololive has been interacting with Holostars since before the inception of this shit excuse of a board anon. Probably since before you even knew vtubers exist.

>>56755914
The homos aren't even good gamers though. They'd definitely be more popular if they were like Kuzuha and were avtually skilled at FPS

>>56748468
Lui just said they won't talk to each other though

>>56755984
In extremely rare cases. Most JPs won't touch the homos with a 10ft pole. Even Fubuki has pulled away from saviorfagging Oga

>>56755593
The /biz/tards will say it's because Cover needs to "diversify" their business approach and that being female only will "stagnate" the company but then ignore how Advent are completely destroying Tempiss and Tempoop's numbers less than a month after debut.

>>56756051
That's why I said it'll blow up in their face. The star already tried leeching off ID, EN Fubuki, they're still 2-3view. It just won't work. Roberu the most successful star didn't even bother with Hololive.

I was saying years ago, like, 2020, that they should have split the company up in to distinct branches.
Idol unit, general entertainment unit, e-sports unit.
They way they are doing it right now is silly.
They should have just made a fucking esports unit ages ago before all the division shit and allow anyone to transfer over to it if they wish.
If they do that now it will just cause endless anti shitposting on all sides.

Crazy plans and contents such as
playing a dead game but with homos
playing a newly released game but with homos
playing a single player game but with homos reacting on the background
playing multiplayer games vs homos
and more exciting vidya game contents in the near future!

>>56756358
>they should have split the company up in to distinct branches.
wouldn't that be a rly bad idea?
>Idol unit, general entertainment unit, e-sports unit.
ok now you're just being silly
>They should have just made a fucking esports unit ages ago before all the division shit and allow anyone to transfer over to it if they wish.
is that division in the room with us right now?
>If they do that now it will just cause endless anti shitposting on all sides.
yes, that's why its a bad idea

> Our goal is to create a gaming community centered on, and we ...
> centered on
centered on what?

>horizontal
just like sex with your oshi

Holy shit you guys are pathetic.
How 'bout you do us all a favour and fuck off with your bullshit.

>>56755370
i'm waiting for the actual stream because it can go both ways
what i hate about this is homobeggars gets something to cause shit again after they are forced into hiding when advent girls gave nothing to tempoops

>>56757243
>'bout

>>56745935
Niji deflection thread now Mirei confirmed the rrats and proved Zaion right.

>>56757512
The rest of the fanbase hate you, the talents hate you and your family hates you (and they are right to do so).
Never fall asleep again without remembering that please.

>>56757708
Made you spell properly.

>>56757774
Made you reply.

>>56755370
The issue I assume is the hologirls and holostars are sort of co-workers.

>>56756091
>Even Fubuki has pulled away from saviorfagging Oga

She was just in a collab with him along with Choco and two other guys.

>>56747875
>Cute femboys speedrunning Super Mario N64
Holy shit cosmo is /in/

Holostars are just hacks who can't make it and so are here to leech the girls.

So damn useless, the smart ones understood it very soon and got the fuck out.

>>56748113
If they are going to sell out the girls like this, I might actually become a shareholder, since the IRL ojisan meetings might actually become a thing.
And a pretty good selection for the first meeting too, Irys, Botan, Chloe and Fubuki are all pretty high on my list.

>>56745935
>new plans and contents centered on game culture
ogey, except nobody seems to have the time to stream games anymore...

>>56758785
Your porn fantasies aren't how real stockholding works. The company doesn't even have enough stock public to have a stockholder determine what they do without question.

>>56760210
It's simple... we buy out the company.

>>56756847
Fuck off newfag, you hadn't even heard of a vtuber when this was up for debate before you simp fucktards latched on to vtubers.

>>56760210
Did you not see how the shareholder meeting went? There was like 2 ojisans who asked about IRL meetings with the talents just for shareholders.

>>56761321
>Fuck off newfag
he doesn't know
>you hadn't even heard of a vtuber when this was up for debate
he doesn't know
>before you simp fucktards latched on to vtubers.
he doesn't know
my fucking sides man lol
whatever helps you sleep at night bro

>>56761484
Yeah neck yourself.
No argument zoomer cunt.

>>56755593
I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if this sort of shit was pushed by the girls and guys involved. You do realize all the girls in this tournament are certified cockgobblers who have constantly played these sorts of games and collabed with males before, right? Unless it starts forcing together members who generally avoid each other, this is just a way of making an official safe space for these co-ed orgies that were happening anyway.

According to prior data I have gathered (on ruffians) Proxy collabs are ok. See Copypasta for more info

THE RESULTS ARE IN
With over 500 votes, the poll should give us a rough idea of the mental state of ruffians.

I. QUESTION
The question posed was simple: Which behavior and interaction is expected for FuwaMoco (Both are a single entity in this case) without drawing the ire of Rufflings, their fans. The question was based around FuwaMoco's initial pledge during the debut to keep Ruffians smiling.

II. SCENARIOS
The scenarios given filled a wide range of possible things that could happen, regardless of homobegging or not. The scenarios ranged in severity but there was not a clear scale.

III. INTENT
The intent was to determine if a critical amount of rufflings would be drastic in their opinions or actions, causing distress to FuwaMoco and possibly facilitating an early graduation due to stress, similar to Chinese harassment experienced by OG talent Kiryu Coco.
The intent WAS NOT to determine what amount of homobegging was acceptable because no amount of homo- or collabbegging is acceptable.

IV. METHOD
The method used was an anonymous online poll that was posted multiple times throughout the day in both hololive global and /baubau/, the FuwaMoco split. You were able to choose multiple acceptable scenarios for you, a severity scale was not used as this is purely subjective. However, they will be loosely grouped for the results. The limitations sadly include that we cannot cross-reference groups (aka, we cannot see how many schizos are in each group). Assumptions that Schizos are in group 4 will not be made. The Schizo group was made to have a clear indication of how many Ruffians intent to cause harm to FuwaMoco for a perceived breaking of the pledge.

V. RESULTS
tl;dr: Almost half of the Ruffians wish for no interaction between FuwaMoco and Holostar. An expected result and nothing to be concerned about. 40% of Ruffians do not mind interactions (Groups 2-4). 13% of Ruffians wish to cause harm to FuwaMoco for a perceived breaking of the pledge.

1. No Interaction (None of the above, By proxy in a bigger event but not directly in contact, Interactions with a Hololive Member that regularly interacts with Holostars) 47% (240/511)
2. Passing Interaction (Chat interaction, Twitter interaction) 14% (72/511)
3. Temporary interaction (Video Project or Song Cover, Group collab instigated by another member) 12% (63/511)
4. Direct confrontation (Collab instigated by a Holostar to directly interact with FuwaMoco, Collab instigated by FuwaMoco to directly interact with a Holostar, Interaction off stream) 14% (68/511)
5. Schizos 13% (68/511)

As expected, the majority of Ruffians do not want any direct interaction between Holostar and FuwaMoco. This is counterbalanced by the 40% that do not mind interactions (of varying degrees). A good and healthy split.
Interesting to note is that if a direct collab comes to be, more Ruffians prefer the collab being hosted by FuwaMoco(5%) and not by Holostar (4%). The same could be said for interactions in stream chat (8%) are preferable to interactions on X (formerly Twitter) (6%). Another interesting datapoint is that a one-off project, like a cover is preferred (7%) to a collaboration stream with multiple people, including Holostar (5%).

13% of Ruffians wish to cause harm to FuwaMoco for any interaction with Holostar. This option is the 2nd most voted, with "interaction of "tainted" Holo" being an expected 1st. It is interesting to see that 10% of Ruffians do not even wish for that, however since we cannot cross-examine the poll, we cannot tell how many of these are included in the 13% that wish to cause harm. We can only state that more Ruffians wish to cause harm to FuwaMoco than Ruffians which would like a complete and total abstience of Holostar and Holostar adjecent content or members.

IV. CONCLUSION
Ruffians are not in danger of being corrupted by schizos. Despite the 13% who wish to cause harm to FuwaMoco for perceived transgressions against the pledge, There is more than double the amount of Ruffians in either Big grouping (No interaction or Interaction of varying degrees) that can drown out possible harassment by the 13% of schizo Ruffians.

I thank you all for your participation and help to quell my own schizophrenia.
t. Novelbeat

>>56756358
It's almost like they already did that before in the past, and failed. Not like I expected a newfag to know.

>>56761684
>You do realize all the girls in this tournament are certified cockgobblers
>IRyS
>Lui
>Chloe
Even Botan is a stretch considering how she ignores the homos and the only male vtuber she ever interacted with on stream was Ibrahim from Niji.

>>56761848
No they never, fuck off.
The only side shit they did was minor and it almost resulted in Miko fucking off.
AZKi was indirectly fucked because Upd8 died.
That's it.
It was also literally right at the fucking start where they didn't know a damn thing about what they wanted to do as a company so fell back to vtubing because it was easier to get in to.

>>56761582
my fucking sides man lol
whatever helps you sleep at night bro
>>56761738
>interact with holostars off stream without your knowledge
who the fuck cares if literally nobody knows because it's offstream anyway? some "people" are beyond any logic and reason lol

>>56761738
Wrong thread?

>>56761738
Holy mother of tl;dr.

>>56762027
no this is the shitposting thread that is worried about male collabs.

>>56761738
>Rufflings
You are not a Ruffian.
>posted on global
Why would you ask the opinion of non-Ruffians about what they think? Your scientific method is lacking.

>>56761738
>1-on-1 collab
It would be a 1-on-2 collab

>>56746392
God I want azuazu to feed me with my head in her lap

>>56762139
ruffians are in global.
500 is a good number to delude bad data.
>>56762143
it says right there in the initial line that they are treated as one entity.

>>56761993
>they never did that
>except the times when they did and it failed
Also, Gamers, which is not a separate unit anymore, and just another gen.

>>56762249
>ruffians are in global
According to who? Why don't you make a post to see how many of them are ruffians.

>>56762270
Oh fuck off, gamers were a retarded themed gen idea because they were in their dumb "copy everything nijisanji does" days.
You're acting like nobody played games at all before that.
Get the fuck out of here you wiki-reading cunt.
There'd have been threads all over this shithole board shitting on gamers if it were made today, just like people shitting on the whole vsinger thing they repeated again with IRyS and caused this weird awkward distance with her and the rest of EN like they did with AZKi and the rest of Hololive. Even NOW that awkward distance is still there for AZKi, there'd only a handful of people she interacts with.

>>56747206
Nigger no one cares except hyper schizos who THINK they're being "like" 2ch or "real japanese idol unicorns" when they fail to realize that 2ch is actually making fun of unicorns when they spam that retarded emoji, and real japanese unicorns aren't fucking retarded and think no female will ever talk to males ever
And like other said with popularity come the tourists who do that shit

>tl;dr
"Unicorns" on the EN side are LARPing as Japanese

>>56762476
I'm glad we agree that they already tried to do this separation into different units and it failed miserably.

>>56747206
Gen3 are the ones who started the "no males" thing on their own. They did it for their own reasons (rushia was GFE, flare dislikes online men, pekora was more comfortable being around the girls, Noel didn't care either way but was happy to avoid men since it benefited her roommate, marine wanted to do what the rest of the girls did)

Then gen 3 blew up and became uber successful and it became the standard the rest of the company would follow, with many of the early gen girls like Miko and Subaru following suit, even if nowadays gen 3 aren't as dogmatic as other girls are

>>56761464
Really? How did cover respond to them?

>>56746459
>something becomes popular
>reactionary response that makes no sense months later
is this the cover way

>>56761950
Chloe is the only iffy one but she falls into that demographic of succubus that would have an OnlyFans account, not exactly above having sex with men for money. Lui called fans ATM's and IRyS literally fucked her rigger on stream. Botan is famous for having a whole rant against fans who were opposed to collabs like this, calling her a stretch is disingenuous as fuck.

>>56762854
>units
Okay newfag.

>>56762139
He’s done this fake stuff weeks ago.

>>56747206
Miko became based and redpilled. Subaru joined in. And the rest of Gen 0-2 faded into irrelevance.

>>56748633
She actually said she has no interest interacting with people she doesn't know. You understand what that means, right? ;)

>>56763029
>Chloe
Never collabed nor interacted with the homos. Closest thing was the Minecraft event and she barely interacted with the dudes.
>Lui
Stop taking shit out of context, nijinigger. She called the bot on that mahjong game a points ATM and compared it to a fan losing on purpose for their oshi.
>IRyS
Multiple Holos are friendly with their male character designers/riggers and they still don't collab with the homos.
>Botan
She straight up said that people who want male collabs within Hololive to go look elsewhere and that having variety of options was a good thing.

>>56745935
The genderist cancer reached Hololive. The fun is over.

>>56763160
You mean she latched on to what her friend Pekora was doing because it was pulling numbers.
And Subaru caved to peer pressure.
>noo only Niggersanji has cliques!!!!

>>56763160
suisei?

>>56762968
I think he said something like "We don't have plans for something like this, but we will keep it in mind for the future."
Just note that this is a canned response because you can't just say no to a shareholder, as it would look unprofessional. So this is closer to a "Fuck off" in americanese.

>>56763160
You don't know shit about those gens retard

>>56763212
Already coping.

>>56763461
Fucking predictable. What kind of subhuman are you? Nijinigger? Homobeggar? A BVTM exile?

>>56745967
>Omega Alpah gets "fired"
>his boss music starts fading out
>phase 2 boss music starts
>his new character design is male, has wings now, and refers to himself as Alpha Omega
Turns out he was just doing some JRPG boss LARP shit in the background

>>56763556
I just know that I am not an ATM machine.

>>56763570
Man, fuck this shit. Things were looking up with Advent and this omegay faggot had to pull boss phases like Ansem from KH1 or something. Fuck him.

>>56745935
this time it's really over right?

>>56763644
Oh no bro, watch out, he'll call you a normie for not being a simp like him.
Keyword being normie instead of normalfag.

>>56763644
>>56763769
So a nijinigger still taking shit out of context. Hope you have fun with Mysta's graduation today, it won't be the last one that happens this year for your crumbling EN branch.

>>56745935
holy shit you dramafags must be STARVING if this is the best you're eating those days

>>56763858
kek, I don't even watch Nijisanji.
But keep coping about it.
You gosling fucktards have been royally shit on every single time you fall for someone.
I cannot wait for all you Shiori tards to get stabbed in the back as well, I will savor the tears.

>>56761738
>ruffians
>511 total votes

>>56763225
Miko's fucktoy? Her relevance outside of Miko is explicitly unrelated to being a vtuber.

>>56764124
So you're a beggar. That's actually better since your two faggots are on the death row.

>>56764291
kek, look at him reaching, the desperation, the desperation to distract himself from the fact these e-thots will betray him one day, sooner or later.
hahahaha
The pubescent rage is amazing.

>>56764291
kek
Desperately looking for a label. I'm surprised you didn't call him a troon.

>>56764361
>>56764413
>1 minute apart
And I'm the desperate one.

>>56745935
Basically they didn't hire enough girls who are good at games, so now they have to mix up their branches in order to get the big game sponsorships. They're seeing the success of the Crazy Raccoon stuff and wanting in within their own box.

>>56745935
>all the Holos are gonna be forced to stream with guys


NIJIFICATION

COMPLETE

>>56764468
I don't need to samefag to upset you, you're upset without my posts, you're even more upset with my posts, and now you are reaching and trying to find a way to make sense of it all.
It's you. You're the problem.
Sort yourself out, m8.

>>56764503
It was honestly quite sad to see them try copy that when half of them find no fun in those types of games.
The Holo RUST server WAS fun, but it was embarrassing.
They've never been able to make anything cohesive since Coco left, she was legit the only one capable of organizing such large events properly given she managed to get damn near everyone playing ARK for a long ass time.

>>56747206
Western unicorns?

>>56764565
Damn, didn't know I was dealing with an armchair psychologist. Anyway, I hope you're looking forward to the inevitable termination notice.

>>56745935
>together
>regardless of gender
Ummmmm is this a defcon 2 moment

>>56764696
>armchair
lol, it's funny because I actually did uni level psych in school, probably before your barely-teen ass was alive. Not that this matters, you will continue to cope.
Also, it will be you facing a termination notice soon. I'm not happy about it myself. She deserves better though, the sooner she is out of it, the better.

>>56764850
Sure thing, grandpa. Also who the fuck you're talking about? Already suffering from Alzheimer's?

>>56764946
Thanks for admitting it at least.
And you'll see. Remember me when you are crying. They're desperate not to have her leave, but there's only so much you can do when someone has lost all interest.

>56765023
Christ, you're a bonafide schizo. I knew you beggars had mental problems but this is too much. Get some help, friend. You definitely need it.

>>56762476
>gamers were a retarded themed gen idea and DEFINITELY weren't introduced as being intended to be e-sports focused. This absolutely never happened. There 100% was never a press release that said this.
Consider the rope, newfag.

>>56765104
Embarrassing.
Also, >>56765023 meant for me :) )
>>56765139
lol k

>>56761738
>>56762249
Fucking retard, majority of Ruffians won't touch global with 10ft pole. You got votes from some homobeggars.

>>56763205
she just want to chill

>>56764640
Sorry, nobody want to watch 10+ streams of the same shit. It was insufferable already with things like holocure. Rust was funny while it lasted and hope it nevers come back, the same with ark.

>>56747069
>has no idea

>>56766323
What happened to Haachama that also nearly happened in Apex?

>>56764651
Use more buzzwords newfag retard. Hololive took a turn starting with gen 3 where they focused more on gachi's.
It took Luxiem to blow up in the west for those business fags to start pushing males again. It's all about business retard. Keep living in your western twitter bubble where "western unicorns" ruined everything. Tranny kys.

>>56747626
Saying it over and over again won’t make it true

>>56762851
More coping from tempus fags… you’re not tricking anyone you know, you’re just making yourselves look pathetic with all the coping

>>56763205
That’s just cope, she’s definitely gonna collab with all of advent sooner or later

>>56763220
Genderism? ESL-chama it’s called sexism

>>56766868
>Tempus not even involved at all
>TEMPUS FAN TEMPUS FAN TEMPUS FAN TEMPUS FAN TEMPUS FAN TEMPUS FAN TEMPUS FAN TEMPUS FAN TEMPUS FAN
Holy mindbroken lmao

>>56766868
Tempus has nothing to do with this obsessedchama, stop being obsessed

>>56745935
I don't get it. Is it because it now specifically emphasizes gaming and games?

>>56747206
It didn't. It has already been said many times, but western unicorns are unique in the sense they try to emulate the jokes about Japanese unicorns instead of their actual behaviour.

>>56745935
>what will cause war will be the attempt at creating peace
We live in a society.

>>56767305

The comments about "gender" strongly suggesting that Hololive is going to force more collabs with males. This is probably a new initiative to try to rescue Holostars, as that whole business segment is not doing well.

Hololive has fallen into the classic trap of not knowing your customer and trying to "expand the audience" at the expense of the old audience. As with many companies who try to "expand the audience" they run the risk of chasing the old one off while not getting the new one they hope for.

>>56745935
hahahahahahhaah
funny joke sister

>>56767716
Oh right, you mean people haven't read their websites before? It's been like that as their mission for years.

>>56767716
if the plan was to make the boys thrive, then shill them as their own
hell, shill them to the high heavens if they can even if the public eye will probably see it as "favoritism"
keep the boys in their lane, and the girls stay in theirs, it's that simple

>>56767893
Just wait until somebody finds the audition forms after 5 years and acts like it's news.

>>56767893

Yes, they've been trying to rescue Holostars for years, and nothing has worked. Which suggests they need to either change their business strategy or cease plowing resources into that business segment.

Their current strategy to "fix" Holostars has been to try to force their popular female streamers to collab with them . There is a lack of basic understanding that Hololive's core audience are idolfags and that audience isn't transferable to Holostars. They just keep trying the same thing over and over again, just from "clever" new angles that aren't really clever at all.

Yagoo has no option.
>Women are bad at video games.
>Men are better but no one sees them, so he has to attract views with girls to get more sponsors later on.
Some girls have to suffer for the cause.

>>56745935
Lmfao
Imagine still being a corpofag after shit like this, enjoy your scraps, cucks

>>56768352
>Women are bad at video games.
And that's bad because? People enjoy watching women being bad at video games.

>>56768325
What does that have to do with Holostars? It's just part of their corporate mission statement. You've literally been supporting it all along.

>>56768352
Fuwamoco are awful at games and yet I enjoy watching them. Partly because they're so bad that it comes back around to becoming funny. I don't want to watch a male vtuber with a pretty boy avatar. It's clear the designs were made for women and homos in mind. I'm neither so it doesn't appeal to me. If you try to force it on me not only will I not watch, I will actively hate the company that forced it on me. I will especially be pissed if they force it on my oshis, although I'm fairly sure they're safe from it given they're new.

>>56748585
Lmao >fans money is being used here
Not even a cent of fans money is being used here, it's all Blizzards money. they want vtubers to advertise their game and they payed for it, management asked the talents, they accepted it for their own reason(definitely not to collab with males kek)
Get your head check, such embarrassment to call yourself a fan

>>56767336
Nobody gives a fuck about goslingfags.
This is an entirely Japanese thing and it happens all the time.
I mean, they definitely do emulate them to a much more retarded degree, which is funny as fuck, but it still is very much a Japanese thing.
It stems from the type of societal reject that likes Love Live and other trash like it. All of them latched on to vtubers around that time and shit things up.
They didn't start out at Hololive, they were all fans of that other shit group that tried replacing their vtubers actors and claim they were "character vtubers". Unlimited promptly died after that.
That's why Gen3 didn't have much success early on until they all trickled over there. Others wetn at .live as well and shit it up... I miss Futaba,.. fuckers.

>>56745935

>>56768975
Reading comprehension, faggot. Hololive boomed due to CGCDT, Hololive get CGCDT fans' money. The money was used to promote Homostars. They keep receiving more of that money and used it to get big and get a 20 million dollar studio. After they became big enough, their brand gained traction as a marketing platform for other brands. They jumped to grab the Blizzard money bag that wanted them to do a mixed gender collab. Hololive's success was built largely on the purchases of CGCDT fans, and they now betray those fans to grab the Blizzard money bag. It doesn't matter if the entire event is sponsored by Blizzard. Hololive only got noticed because they got big from the fans' money in the first place.

>>56769739
Wow are you the type of fan that forces a talent to do your bidding because you are the reason where she is right now? Ew disgusting

>>56761738
so this proves that to collab with males, youd piss off half your fanbase, just to placate a passing fancy the other half isnt even seeking out in the first place.

>>56770126
>You can't have the product or service you paid for and you must eat this shit that we served for you
What a cuck. What a doormat. You'll happily pay a corpo and watch them abandon your interests in favor of getting the bag from investors and sponsors. I bet you contributed zero dollars to Hololive anyway, pagpag eater.

>>56770126
so youd rather they bite the hands that feed them?

>>56770621
You don't play for streams. You are making donations.
The membership? It is clearly stated beforehand what are you receiving in exchange.
Hope this helps to clear your misunderstandings.

>>56762895
And guess what, homobeggars? It WORKED!

>>56750422
They already have Rockefellers and Rothschild family money. Blackrock too. Trough Mitsubishi.

>>56750937
Yes because the fans are mentally ill. And don't support this. Even if they are trannies jannies.

>>56757652
Like number niggers harrasing a underage girl and their family. Like Hololive faggots harrasing aloe to graduate.

>>56768499
Hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha I don't. Fucking whores. Don't even know how to play videogames.

>>56770126
Worse, they usually didn't help much, or they didn't help at all, then they still keep demanding and threatening.

>>56745935
Where can I read this?

>>56745935
This is good! I'm happy they are doing this with how the world is today shuning someone because of their gender is wrong and we should all work together and have fun no matter what.

>>56745935
>>56745967
>>56746310
Take your meds.

>>56770983
A good chuuba's income is mostly from sponsorships. Unicorns always deserve the rope.

>>56772960
and who will watch them if not unicorns?

>>56745935
Gypsies were right, ensharts were a mistake

>>56773106
The other 99%, who are happier with the shitters gone.

>>56773086
Activists, for one week until the next FOMO product drops for consumption. Maybe we can get to Niji gen debut levels until it inevitably implodes

>>56773086
lmao imagine thinking you shitstains are very important. There are way more normalfags than you who watch vtubers because they're entertained and couldn't care less if there's the occasional male collab.

>>56771363
>>56750422
The pozzing of JP has already begun. I can't be the only one who has noticed more skin tones in newer anime (while facial structure remains white because caucasians objectively have the most beautiful ethnicities.)
There is no escape, anons, I'm sorry. The mighty ESG dictates the course of entertainment. As soon as Cover became public, they became beholden to Vanguard and BlackRock.

>>56773280
Then why aren't chuubas honest about their intimate relationships, when they talk about all of their other family? It's the same situation as porn stars, don't kid yourself.

>>56773280
>>56773427
Most normalfags are creeped out by Live2D.
It's a hard filter to overcome.

>>56773427
Because it's not relevant to the work they do, you stupid cumstain

>>56773427
That attitude is pretty fucked up bro. Consider suicide.

>>56773649
>>56773708
OK lovies, at least be honest with yourselves and watch only Nyanners or others like her, so you can be consistent with your worldview.

>>56773280
there was a poll for ruffians and the results boiled down to 50% want nothing to do with male collabs and the other 50% dont care to a wide varying degree. they are important.

>>56773708
You are too shortsighted. Consider, that a chuuba disclosing intimate relationships also puts their loved ones at risk. Mostly online, but sometimes even physical. It's not as onesided as you think it is. The whore analogy is surprisingly good in this regard. Wise whores never disclose their children or family.

>>56773280
>normalfags
>Watching vtubers
LMAO. Keep trying to act like one. Won't matter. Normalfags will never accept you

>>56745935
I'll keep it real with you. If Cover thought that pushing homocollabs and mixed gens and other nijification type shit was any kind of viable path forward they would have already done it. The CEO of the fucking company is personally emotionally invested in seeing the homos succeed and he misses no opportunities to lie on their behalf and carry water for them. It's obvious where management stands on the issue.
The truth is that they know it won't work. They can see every number that we can see and a bunch that we can't. They'd have to sacrifice the baby to save the bathwater and as much as they might want to, they know that they can't afford to. The solution is simple, stay the course. Love and enjoy your oshi, support CGDCT and ignore homo collaborators as we always have. Again the fact that they have not even attempted to pull this bullshit is proof enough that we are winning.

>>56745935
>>56774221
I relate to Yagoo. The entertainment business is really unfair to males. We meme but he really is a saviorfag. One of the three qualities Cover looks for in a potential talent is desperation, or desire to join.
I can't change what I like. But I wish nothing but the best for the homos who behave well. The JP homos still around are well behaved and respectful to the female talents. So I will watch. My oshi is the MC and likes the homos very much. I trust her judgement more than anyone else in the company.

>>56774058
They already do because unlike you frothing imbeciles, I know how to separate my niche hobbies from the ones I share with society

>>56774604
The fact that you admit to hiding being a vtuber fan already proves my point.
You scared of not being accepted for who you really are.

>>56766785
exactly
that's why i don't understand these unicorns who try to hold on to their twisted version of reality
would be way healthier for them to just let it go, but you can't help people who don't even try to help themselves
>>56772960
other people? what kinda question is that lol

>>56762851
Not saying this is wrong necessarily, but I don't think Rushia would have gone full meltdown if there wasn't at least a critical mass of schizos on the JP side of things as well that caused her to panic and attempt [what she naively thought constituted] damage control. No way in hell she reacts that hard if she's only being harassed in a language she barely speaks.

I wouldn't be surprised if we have more unicorns than Japan does, because there's a larger population to pull from, but I think you're doing a reverse racism to claim that the JP unicorns aren't as crazy as ours.

>>56745935
It's been happening for a while. I warned you when they shoehorned homos into the new year live, but people called me paranoid. Enjoy your soulless attempt at being a niji x VSPO chimera, I'm out.

>>56776987
I wouldn't call it harassment in her case. She's the definitive virtual girlfriend, getting angry and crying when she sees some random in chat talking about watching other vitubers. Part performative, part reality, she encouraged a kind of misunderstanding and brought everything on herself. She was crazy enough that she probably actually thought of her chat as lovers and would've freaked out based on the perception of being unfaithful regardless of what anyone might have said to her.

>>56747164
I swear if both companies just snapped out of this retarded lull they're both in and realize what made them good in 2019-2021, they'd probably thrive
>Nijisanji goes back to being unhinged but more light hearted and streamer oriented company
>Hololive goes back to being a girl's high school tier company
>Do collabs with respect for both sides
>Shut down ID/EN/KR or whatever and just focus on JP

>>56778065
>>Shut down ID/EN/KR or whatever and just focus on JP
all this larping /here/ still doesn't make you japanese though

>>56778244
I don't give a shit, KR are notoriously lazy, ID are basically just Western degenerate SEA, and EN are the harbingers of the worst parts of all things
I'll sit there waiting for translator-kun to post, or do DeepL and hope for the best

>>56747206
>A lot of Gen 0 - 2 used to and still do collab with males. How did Hololive become a place where collabing with males was controversial?
Hololive started leaning more heavily on coomerbait and GFE. When they started to get parasocial idol fans they began using idol marketing strategies. A contradiction with Cover is their desire to be mainstream while selling erolive swimsuit merch.

Ok. Cool.
Can Vesper and Magni come back now?

>>56778065
>Shut down ID/EN/KR
Anycolor is already on that. Officially closed 2 of them and are bullying ID into graduation.

>>56778530
Coincidentally they also started to become actually popular just as they started doing that. It's not surprising people get mad at this kind of shit.

>>56779802
Seems an odd way of bullying them out, just leaving them alone and giving the popular ones everything they want....

>>56745935
Horizontal is code for equality.

It's a reference to the Japanese phrases "tate shakai" and "yoko shakai" which means "vertical society" and "horizontal society." Verticalness in a society represent its structural hierarchy. In a vertical society, the leaders are on top and the followers are on the bottom, while in a horizontal society, everyone is equal. Most Japanese say that Japan s now a horizontal society but that some aspects of vertical society remain, such as in school and work etc. Whenever you hear a Japanese person talk about making society more horizontal, they advocating for more equality.

>>56780581
i.e. woke corpo bullshit forcing the content in the direction opposite to the one that made hololive big in the first place because they want to go mainstream even at the expense of the fans who carried them up to where they are now.

>>56745967
FPBP

>>56747206
Gen 0-2 was before it became an idol company, a few months into gen 2 the entire company shifted and their popularity skyrocketed because of it.

Before becoming an idol company, they had to compete with scraps from nijisanji

It's code for the horizontal shuffle the Stars and Holos will be doing AKA fucking.

>>56780581

>>56748965
specifically for okayu cosplayers

>>56745935
Idol activities don't make us enough money.
That's why we are going to play Overwatch 2

>>56745935
complete nothingburger, which nijigraduated today ?

>>56783050
forcing irys to both play with homos AND play a blizzard game is not a nothingburger

>>56778244
anon you don't have to be japanese to see that they have no idea how to manage foreign branches

>>56773280
how do dumb posters like you even find catalog threads to seethe at?
/vt/ is not where all the unicorns are hiding you idiot, unicorns are the fans of the girls that superchat them $500+ a month and buy all their merch

500+ gray names are less valuable than one unicorn giving the girl $500+ dollars because gray names RARELY give money
gray names(entertainment only fags) do not financially support the girls in any meaningful way besides being CCV for sponsorship streams, which they don't even watch because gray names refuse to watch sponsored streams whereas unicorns literally watch every stream the girls put out no matter how garbage it is

/vt/ aren't the unicorns, the majority of the fans for any of these talents are unicorns, if you aren't giving them money, you aren't a fan, you're a number
this isn't a hololive only thing, or even a vtuber thing, this affects every IRL egirl on steam and even camgirls on chaturbate
if you do a stream with a man on chaturbate, you're money drops off like a fucking rock

>>56780581
>they advocating for more equality
the word you are looking or is 'equity'

>>56783712
We will see the numbers, but at least on the jp side this type of stuff doesn't cause a drop in the number of unicorns. Playing a tournament where there is a male that is. Even the ones who pushed it a bit like Aqua wanting to play with a pro smash player wasn't fatal in the long term.

>>56783114
Yes it is. C'mon, son.

I can't decide what's worse. Playing with the homos, or playing fucking overwatch 2

>>56747164
more than 2?

.

All of this doomposting because Irys is in a tournament with the homostars? She wasn't the unicorn icon anyway. That was Gura and still is. She doesn't even acknowledge their existence

>>56745935
>they think we watch vtubers for the games
It's remarkable how they don't understand a goddamn thing. The games are just a framing device to let the girl talk and do her thing. It's utterly irrelevant how good or bad she is at gaming. I don't even play games. I never played them.

>>56760210
the fantasies are true, i'm the ojisan

>>56783712
not everyone who gives them money is a male-avoidant unicorn tranny, what is this shitty logic?

also, a tournament isn't the same as a one-on-one collab or whatever, they won't necessarily be bothered.

>>56783712
So according to you, the guy that superchatted both Lui and Chloe complaining about the collaboration doesn't matter because he is a grey name. And thus this thing is a nothingburger.

>>56745935
Its so over. I am glad that I have moved from Hololive to small corpos like a year ago.

>>56747164
more than 2?

>>56748468
They're not talking to eachother. It's no different then when they play with randos in multiplayer games. Do you think when pekora was playing fall guys for instance she was playing in an only female queue?

>>56745935
That's a lot of words for "the girls will collab with the boys, and it will be corpo mandated",

>>56748585
holotalents get salaries fan money was always going to stars ever since their inception.

>>56792913
>collab
>not even talking
All of myth collabed with Kiara's papa when he hung out on the minecraft server like 2 weeks after debut.

>>56792913
>and it will be corpo mandated
That's actually worse, literal black company bullshit.

>>56793012
>not even talking
Sure buddy. Do you wanna bet on it? Of course they are not gonna talk to each other in the game, but they will talk to each other before or after to congratulate the winner or whatever.
Otherwise this HLZNTL shit is meaningless.

>>56793300
What else would "under the leadership of our company" could mean?

>>56792607
That guy was clearly someone trying to start drama, he even used a socket puppet account.

This is dumb. We already have a whore branch called ID. If you want to see these soap opera collabs watch the Indonesians.

>>56793467
I'm not gonna bet anything but you can save this post and grudgepost later. If they were gonna have them talk why would they segregate the teams like that and what's the point of even having an MC? Seems kind of odd on top of all that they chose fubuki to MC. But doom post away.

>>56793541
That when the usually suspects do male collabs that it was facilitated by cover. Basically taking credit for shit that would have happened anyway. Do you even corpo speak? Maybe they will pay fubuki and bae a little bonus to talk to roberu/oga once a month.

>>56746392
i want to cuck azki's husband

>>56795077
>facilitated
If it was just facilitated, they would have said supported or something like that, but no, it says "under the leadership" which means that it's the corpo starting this shit.

>>56797703
Get well soon Kanata.