/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

your mistake is that thinking those are >people

>>56706142
She's gonna play with 2 MALES!

>>56706142
Are these translated tweets or English tweets? Because who cares what kaigais are saying.

>>56706191
OK, I can see how someone could get bothered by that, but why do they hate APEX so much? Seriously, there's this guy talking about ceasing to exist because MKNK is playing Apex. She should've stuck with the Nazuna Apex plan, I guess.

>>56706142
>>56706189
>>56706241
>he doesn't know
a bunch of EOPs commenting not knowing shit. classic.

>>56706395
I'm not a viewer, but she spammed it on Nazuna and basically killed all interest in her streams. So people assumed she wouldn't pull that shit again with her other persona especially since Nazuna was supposed to be the dumping grounds for those streams.

>>56706241
Translated. You can tell because translating JP tweets makes it sound awkward as fuck.

>>56706241
It's a mix. I don't really care what the kaigais think either, but I thought they might be more accepting of APEX. I guess not?

>>56706142
The idea she would care more about a game than them is breaking them because they're utterly delusional.

She's reaping what she sowed. If you explicitly court a delusional simp audience don't be surprised when they freak out when you stray from the idol fantasy shit they want you to be.

>>56706395
apex is a good idea if you're minimally decent at the game and you know how to make the streams interesting. you could also use it as an excuse for collabs and it's passable (this specific situation aside). otherwise you should play something else.

apex is a hookup app with shooting

>>56706395
APEX in japan is a dating app, even if you put that aside, her whole drama started over it, so yes her remaining gachikois who stayed with her through the whole drama might feel a little miff she is going right back to it. It is a double standard she placed on herself.

>>56706436
I liked Nazuna a lot, so I thought I'd give MKNK a chance, but her "fans" are freaking out over a fucking game.
>>56706647
Towa can play APEX and still sing. Aqua too, I don't see the issue with playing APEX, it's fucking goofy.

>>56706436
calm down there ken-sama

>>56706799
and nijisanji is also a dating app

>>56706866
correct, but worse than that.

>>56706748
There's so many Holos that play it no problem. Is it just all Niji guys getting uptight about MKNK doing it?

>>56706395
Apex has led to her playing with men and getting into trouble for it multiple times now, including in Hololive when it led to her getting fired. She then basically killed her alt channel by spamming Apex on it until most of her viewers left. She also played with some guy off stream for months who was like a troll constantly talking shit about her or something. There might be more but that's all I remember reading in random threads. Basically all the problems in her career as a streamer are the result of her playing Apex.

>>56706839
>"fans"
classic greyfag language.

>>56706142
I don't care about New Rushia.

>>56706142
You're late. Her unicorns already cucked to her will.

>>56706142
Dunno what drama this is but apex is too boring to watch.
Chuuba can't even zatsudan properly during it unlike with say boring blockgame because they have to concentrate.

>>56707157
A lot of the holos playing it have been found out hanging out with dudes, playing with them off stream and even cancelling participation in holo events in order to play with those males. Even alleged bfs involved.
Apex is a dating app in Japan. Same with valorant.
Of course you can play them and be clean, you can even play it with males and that doesn’t mean any of those males is your bf, but it’s a swamp.
Just so you understand how gachikoi feel about those games imagine you find out your girlfriend uses tinder to make friends… it’s not impossible but to believe something like that is not exactly a smart move in your part.

>>56706839
The "idol fantasy" here isn't about singing but not playing around with men. This bitch barely sings anything ever.

>>56707282
So, her playing Apex isn't even anything new. Did she swear not to play it again or something?
I know she said she was gonna use Nazuna's channel to play Apex, but I don't think she said she wouldn't with MKNK. Besides, maybe this shit is company mandated or something?

>>56706142
"playing APEX" is code word for "having sex with my bf"

>>56707671
you're more likely to end up in a lobby full of chinese aimbotters than to find a hookup. if people are using apex to flirt, they're flirting and hooking up outside of apex and it's not the game that's the problem.

>>56707733
Which fucking company is mandating her to team up with men, retard?

>>56707838
She's in that voice actor company, they might want her to shmooze with male voice actors so she can get used to working with guys.

>>56707788
They don't look for anyone through matchmaking, idiot.
There are multiple japanese streamer discords where they group up. In this particular instance Kirsch just posted "looking for 1 more" on Twitter and she was the one who asked to join.
The game is just an excuse to talk to other people.

>>56707671
>tinder
Bae...

>>56707788
Yes, nips have apesex discord servers, same with valorant. Of course the game itself is not a dating app, I’m talking about how it’s been used commonly in Japan.
Fried chicken also isn’t a Christmas meal but in Japan it is. Christmas is not supposed to be a day for couples like valentines but again in Japan it is. Fps aren’t dating apps but in Japan they are.
So yes, it’s rather obvious gachis feel uncomfortable when their oshi play those kind of games. Even outside the holo landscape in Japan some other girls have been found out not streaming because they are playing valorant with males and some were even found out going on offpakos with them. For a gachikoi those games are the real nightmare.

>>56707282
This, basically. The problem isn't Apex as a game or even playing with men in itself. It's that Apex is so consistently a problem for her but she keeps going back to it thinking "This time, it'll be different!". But it never is and fans both know that and are tired of it.

>>56708010
Honestly... that kind of makes sense...

>>56708010
You're fucking retarded.
She is completely used to working with guys. She is not afraid of them. Her only "real" friends are men.

>>56708231
Is that why Fuwawa made a joke about being a pro at Apex and JPs freaking out just for her to reveal be unable to aim straight and the JPs laughing about it?

>>56707733
OMG sister I can't believe that horrible company is mandating her to play apex, that's so crazy

>>56708231
nta, but isn't that more like groupies hanging out with existing players in a discord? I feel like it would be a little different with vtubers that actually play the game cause they'd have to take the extra step to join a rando's discord for it.

>>56708628
The streamer/e-celeb gang in japan has a really bad fame among otaku. They’ve been find out cheating and doing weird stuff. In general vtuber fans don’t want vtubers to mix with them also because of that. Streamer fans in japan ridicule otaku and otaku hate them back.
In the case of people being good at the game and competing (like Towa) it’s believable she’s just playing the game she likes with people who happen to be males, but in the case of girls who barely stream and are extremely bad at those games (like laplus) is pretty obvious she’s just there to meet dudes (she’s the most proven case in hololive).
Again it doesn’t mean someone who plays apex is on those streamer discords to get dick, but it’s definitely not something you as a gachi would want (see again the tinder example I gave).

>>56708451
I don’t know. Keep in mind a lot of those nips want to see apex. I’ve seen some nips telling my oshi to play apex (thankfully she’s never).
Most of the nips who play and want to watch people playing FPS are zoomers. Non zoomer fans either hates them or don’t mind.
Nips aren’t very vocal. You’re not gonna really see people in chat saying negative stuff. If you want to see that your best bet is to check the quote retweets and fans just typing stuff on their Twitter without tags and without the ego word, matome and 5ch too but there are a lot of trolls larping as fans. Twitter is honestly the best way.

>>56709171
Laplus actually follows the esports scene so her liking pro players make some sense but she's also a general streamer fan like the ones you mentioned hating otaku.
I think she's quite a bit different from the average female vtuber who just gets into apex and valo to hang out with guys. It's more like she wants to be part of the cancerous anti-otaku streamer community despite posing as an otaku.

People bitch because they are bored, which makes up 80% of this board's traffic.

>>56706142
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zw9vCyhUgaY&t=10s

>>56709171
how come there's so much overlap between those communities then? or is that just surface level?

>>56709721
I mean, she’s been found out skipping hololive stuff to play with males. She even went to offline events to meet them and she doesn’t really compete.
She even made up she had motion sickness to not play with holos and magically is fine to play the same games with e-celeb dudes.
She’s interested in those games because of the dudes. It’s really hard to believe she’s interested in the games themselves when she sucks at them and tries to not play them unless it is with popular males.

>>56706142
Isn't it to do with her yab, plus the fact she
>Plays it constantly
>Sucks ass at it
?

>>56710114
Because they're all streamers in a monolingual country?

>>56710215
All of that matches with what I said. The offline event was literally a valo esports event and the guy she met was there just by chance. The reason she even connected with him at the event was because he streams for her favorite esports team and she was with a girl who is another streamer for them.
You know there are people who watch esports and have no hope in competing ever. I'm sure she also likes playing the game for the other guys since she has played with some fuckboy singer but she genuinely watches pro level tournaments which the average female vtuber does not do.

>>56710114
Mostly surface level. Hololive is normalfag tier now so there are a lot of middle and high schoolers watching who aren’t really otaku and love FPS. Now, the otaku on the other hand are nothing like that.
I’ve seen real gachis seethe because a progamer mentioned my oshi. The thing is everything is self-contained. They tweet and after a while then they delete the tweet.
The overlap (if there is really such a thing) is mostly zoomers. I’ve never seen the non zoomers cheering for my oshi to play FPS or telling her “yeah, you should marry someone!!”

>>56706142
1). She's not in the tournament anymore
2). It's a nothhingburger in the end because odds are she'll never interact with Kirsch again for depriving her of an opportunity to play in an Apex tournament
Don't listen to antis and Holofags

>>56707157
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>no problem

>>56710552
At this point is just you believing she’s disregarding hololive altogether to play with males and only males with no ulterior motives. To you she even meets them offline but it’s only as friends.
That’s what you believe but that’s not really what evidence suggest for such cases and nips definitely don’t buy that she even caught covid along with a bunch of male e-celebs after the gta streamer server closed down just by coincidence, not because she went to a party with all of them, and of course if the party happened it was only as friends.

>>56710639
you know most of her fans are holochads right nijifaggot.

>>56710585
what you say makes sense and thanks for clarifying but
>if there is really such a thing
i don't want to argue with you but i see vtuber fans atttend streamer events and esports tournaments semi frequently. i don't think the venn diagram is a circle (because i also see people hate on vtubers and otaku about just as frequently) but there's enough of them that i see a couple in person and my timeline has a bunch of them saying they attended. they're also in the replies of streamers and pro players fairly often. so i wasn't speaking out of my ass either.
but now i understand from your explanation that a vtuber girl's gachikoi are probably not part of that overlap (people can be otaku without being gachis).

>>56710914
We turned on Hololive after her "friends" stabbed her in the back and was still fired for doing absolutely nothing wrong. Lurk more

>>56710888
But she doesn't play with only males.

>>56711009
Oh, by overlap I also assumed you mean people who wanted when to interact.
Right, there are people who watch competitive streamers and vtubers (I’m one of those actually) but the amount of people who want them to interact is what I said it was mostly composed of zoomers.
Although at least based on my oshi’s fandom the amount of gachis who like competitive stuff/streamers is rather slim and the amount of gachis who like both vtubers and watch streamers compete who also want them to interact is even more slim. There’s people who are also like “I want her to be happy and marry someone” but still would rather not see male collabs and I’ve also seen the /here/ take of “she’s not your girlfriend”.

>>56706142
>still watching undead Rushia
>still trusting her GFE
You only get yourself to blame

>>56711572
More entertaining than nu-Holoshit. Her GFE is more consistent than Lamy who fell off too

>>56711400
ah alright then disregard, i just meant people who are a fan of both. people begging/pushing for interactions and being annoying about it are another story and i'm pretty sure they're disliked by the majority of fans.
the topic of collabs is always touchy. in general it's better to just take them as they come and not try to influence the streamer to do anything. but in some cases it would straight up go against the girl's genre of content and the type of fan she caters to so it's better that it doesn't happen at all. but as you pointed out normalfags don't seem to be able to grasp this concept.

>>56706395
For two things
1. Making your channel all about apex if you get addicted to fps, and that could lead to the 2nd point
2. You start playing a lot and getting a decent level, suddenly you get invitations to multiple tournaments, and suddenly you get into a team with a random male that for "some reason" know the people organizing the event and another random. It isn't a surprise that a lot of vtubers or female streamers in general "FOR REASONS NO ONE KNOWS" have boyfriends or are flirting with esports or just pro players in this case of apex. Basically the apex became the game of the groomers, you join an apex tournament and next day you have 20 pro players sliding into your dms with for reasons that clearly are not friendship. That's all, this game and valorant became dating apps for pro players "wanting to teach you and wanting to make a team with you inexperienced female player who surely does not contribute the same as literally any other person"

>>56711049
Ah, yes. The fancuck schizo finally appeared. All the usual mike defense force is complete.

Mikeneko did nothing wrong
Kirsch deprived her of participating in this tournament and stabbed her in the back
Wife did nothing wrong. He's gone from her life for good.

>>56711957
>He's gone from her life for good.
I've heard this one before.

>>56711572
At least fandeads aren't dead inside like u

>>56711957
>Kirsch deprived her of participating in this tournament and stabbed her in the back
what exactly did he do? are they not competing together anymore? i'm not seeing the info you're seeing.

>>56711936
>>56712047
Shoo, shoo, Holoshills

>>56712145
Said publicly he's pulling out of the tournament, ghosting her in the process and causing her to go menhera on Twitcast the next morning. That and antis harassing her again thanks to Kirsch. Fuck Kirsch, Fuck Cover, and Fuck doubters.

When I went to Japan and went home with a girl she was explaining to me that all her friends were trying to get eboys by playing Apex, and the dude's skill in the game being directly proportional to the amount of girls he can get. I'm not even joking. They'd play Apex and if a guy carried then they'd exchange (line, discord) then meetup to fuck.
My only regret is not asking why the fuck they use Apex like some autistic faggots instead of just meeting dudes normally.

>>56712266
was it the tweet he erased? because all the posts about participating are still up for all involved parties. it's not that i don't believe you it's that this is extremely confusing.

>>56712510
Yes, he withdrew, therefore ghosting Mikeneko and leaving her abandoned

Human fucking garbage

>>56711690
Lamy didn’t really fell off. She just, like, decided to stop. It’s been talked a lot already but after she moved places and took a 1 month long vacations she backpedaled hard to the point nowadays even girls like marine, miko and even sora do more ASMR than her.

>>56712603
Nah, she's an ungrateful whore who hates her fans. Wife would never.

>>56712555
i mean being an asshole and having no tact is sort of his brand so maybe mike should find better people to hang out with.

>>56712555
This is the new narrative huh? Not that you harassed him until he quit for Mike's sake.

>>56712653
We've been trying to tell her this for a year now. This time she will absolutely listen after being stabbed in the back yet again because our support depends on it.

>>56712693
It's not a narrative when it's true and it's exactly what Mikeneko said in her recent Twitcast.

>>56711858
I’d like to add to what you said that it’s not only male streamers grooming. Women join those servers to get dick. They aren’t victims, they are perpetrators too.

>>56712789
oh so she threw him under the bus

>>56712789
There is no twitcast.

>>56712789
why didn't any of them erase the team announcement posts? did she also explain that on her twitcast?

>>56712651
Your larping is so obvious it’s funny. Keep doing it though. People /here/ aren’t exactly smart for the most part so you’ll get some good laughs.

I want cum inside Rushia

>>56712852
Don't reply to Marineschizo. He's lying again.

>>56712952
See>>56712885
There was no Twitcast. Marineschizo is just off his meds again.

>>56713206
I don't why but I believe him (marineschizo that is)

People hating on her playing Apex are antis.
They constantly try to fuck with her and ruin her streams.

>>56713363
so true
apex love

>>56706142
Double penetration cucking while playing Ape-sex

Damn she's just doesn't care about everything now, poor Fandead....

>>56706142
When will you retards learn?
NEVER
TRUST
A PINK

>>56715244
Pinks are never wrong. They're just unfairly maligned by you blue fucks.

>>56715244
Koyori is a good girl

apex is dating app in japan, only horny females looking for dick play fps in japan next question

>>56715244
Koyori and Mococo is good pink retard

if anyone's wondering why the catalog is quiet its because they're literally a cult. brainwashed so nothing can move them so the bait is minimized.

Yab
https://twitter.com/niki_ikemen/status/1693944034275004623?t=cBwiIj5a2pacTMCup7ggLg&s=19

>>56712266
what the fuck did cover do to get involved in this lmao

Why do people keep saying that her squad dropped out? I can't find any evidence of that

>>56715628
Yep. It was around a year ago when they were stalking her apex account and saw that she had been playing a bunch. It was around the time after she had reconnected with an old male friend so I said they're probably playing together. The cultists had already been panicking and telling each other to not do anything that might make her look bad and my comment had them all telling me to shut up because apparently there was no proof.
Earlier this year they had a meltdown because they finally had to accept that she had been playing with that guy and when I called out their past behavior they claimed they never denied it.
Actual insanity.

>>56716092
kirschtorte posted and then deleted a tweet. one anon is saying the tweet kiru deleted was him saying he's not participating in apex matsuri anymore. anon has no screenshot of whatever kiru tweeted, only "proof" is a reply to the now deleted tweet and anon saying mike said so in a twitcast. (so basially no proof at all)

>>56716501 (me)
>basially
*basically. i'll go kill myself soon

>>56716501
It's real but it doesn't matter because she still contacted him to join his team.

>>56716590
just a typo anon... relax...

>>56716877
>goes nuclear and tosses her unicorns away for APEX with some twinks
>gets kicked out
roru

>>56716877
thanks for the actual screenshot, it makes way more sense now. i suppose they'll properly announce it later then and that's why no one is deleting the team post?

>>56715540
So, how about Pochi-mama? I kinda get that Apex represents a lot of normiesteamer hate for a lot of otaku now, but she seems to get a much bigger pass on Apex than others.

>>56717067
Just a guess, but Kirsch probably hadn't talked to the others about it yet and didn't want to make the situation worse.

>>56717213
maybe shes good or entertaining at it? never watched her play apex

This entire saga has been funny as shit to watch:

1. There's speculation that she was removed from the tournament by management because of either Cover (Astel) or Mafumafu (2 of his friends who I don't know the names of) having connections in the tournament.
2. She had been talking about how even if she lost unicorns she would get new fans from the exposure immediately before this happened.
3. People from here and 5ch memed about her top donor killing himself so much that he had to tweet an announcement he was alive. (Seems like he had just said fuck it and stopped tweeting with the intention of leaving her fanbase)

So she basically just threw away 30% of her superchat income for nothing at all and is currently having a meltdown behind her membership paywalls if her twitter tags are anything to go by.

>>56717916
Her usual cucks like quix are back to pronouncing their love for her so I think whatever she said in the cuckclub has got a lot of them by the balls again.

>>56718136
It's the rrat about kirsch being the one to break it off. Now it's okay because hes a meanie for ghosting her. Which is kind of funny because its like saying "how dare her bf not come to fuck her! I wanted to be angry at her for getting fucked!"

>>56718419
he's going to post/stream tonight isn't he? maybe he'll explain his side

>>56712298
Wait, this is basically the MOBA dating scene but as FPS

A game where women with lower skill levels find attractive carries. Since APEX is a team game that has less firefighting, it means there’s less pressure to get good compared to something like CoD or CSGO

>>56717916
>Astel
What a fucking hero.

>>56712298
They use Valorant now.

>>56717916
Whale-kun...no.....

>>56719131
>>56717916
I'd bet more on Rikka than Astel honestly, Astel would be the type to have fun poking at her in the chat between matches.
.

>>56717213
Pochi has the mind of a perverted old dude, and these are her irl friends. She can do whateever as long as she keeps delivering hentai goodness

qrd

>>56717916
I want to add to the comedy by clarifying that the guy leaving was dropping between 500 and 1,000 USD on her every stream.

>>56719855
jesus fucking christ lmao

>>56717916
kek homos being based for once

>>56706142
>WHY DID THEY FIRE RUSHIA IT'S NOT LIKE SHE'S MNETALLY UNHINGED OR SOMETHING?!

>>56719855
I wouldn't say he's leaving until he is actually gone. I get the feeling that these sunk cost cucks will get reeled in easily.

>>56712834
Right? "Apex is a dating app in Japan" followed by "it's the groomers" sounds really stupid when women know what they're getting into.

>>56719855
Once again proving what an absolute retard she is for throwing this kind of money away just to kill her viewership with Apex

>>56707573
>Chuuba can't even zatsudan properly during it

Only if they're shit at it.

>>56706142
unicorns think apex = cock caroussel game

>>56720190
he went completely silent on twitter and wasn't present at recent streams. like it was mentioned before a bunch of people were wondering if he killed himself

>>56719510

Don't *think* that Holo talents are stupid enough to go out of their way to mess with pink woman after the company had to lawyer up against her for months, adding the way that she eventually got the other women to feel sorry for her because they are women, whoever got caught doing it would get fucking crucified.

My bet is on the alien because everybody thinking he's fucking pink woman is a massive cockblock, specially if he is.

>>56720490
But then he tweeted and said he's not going to make any further comments for now. I've seen this behavior from him before.

>>56720250
Apex aside, Miguel has been pretty desperate to find a group to integrate with and the FPS scene is the easiest and laziest way to accomplish that.
She's considered NG because of how she got fired from Cover so a lot of people don't really want to associate with her.
>>56717916
The tournament is being run by UUUM who represents Hikakin who is also a good friend of Mafumafu iirc

>>56707157
How do you even bring up nijisanji in this case, speaking of obsessed.

She just wanted to be able to do a big collab like she's a real Vtuber and not isolated black listed everywhere, instead her fans screeched at her on twitter how she's a whore all while she got black listed and kicked from the tournament

>>56720437
just another reason her apex streams were so disliked. she would stop talking to chat to focus on the game then would get salty when she still lost because she's bad at apex. her mood was almost always worse after playing it

>>56720643
You have to wonder how she expects to get anywhere considering Mafumafu has associates pretty much everywhere.

>>56720437
He can sing Disney songs and Bohemian Rhapsody while playing so that's cheating.

>>56721155
>funny alien is a mob boss in japan
kek

>>56706142
Apex is gateway to male collabs

Hello. I'm a stupid NTR fag who wandered in today. Are there any vtubers who actually play into the tease angle? Or are we not quite there yet?

>>56723254
Shiori

>>56720477
Even if Towa and Matsuri were the only examples of this, it would be enough proof.

>>56706142
Apex is another word for sex. 'I finished my work, can't wait to go home to play Apex with you' basically means 'I finished my work, can't wait to go home to have sex with you'

PEX AH AH AH STORMY

It's kind of heartwarming how the gachis still support her. Selfless bunch.

>>56717916
Why on earth would Astel give a shit?

>>56724455
holy cope

>>56706436
>seething because Apex is a male magnet collabers
you need to go to asylum

>>56708438
And there it is...

>>56728165
I think the implication is Cover would give a shit since Astel is participating, not Astel himself.

>>56707315
One day you will

>new member twitcast
I thought this was a nothingburger

>>56723171
always been

>>56720985
Most vtubers don't join an apex trash tournament.

>>56737711
>most of EOPs vtuber
most of JP vtubers are associated themself with Apex because how big it is in JP scene but ofc a newfag and EOP like yourself are too sheltered in your own bubble to realize that

The cope of EOP Holofags
>"JP never does it"
>JP did it
>"It's okay when JP does it because I can't understand what they said"
I know Valorant is dating central in Seaniggerland, but I don't know Apex is the same in JP.

>>56740095
What the fuck does this have to do with "holofags"?

>>56706839
Towa never told her fanbase that she'll never collab with males anon.
Just like with Kronii, the main problem with mikeneko is not male collabs or Apex, it's the betrayal of trust and the lying to your fanbase that are the problems.

Menhera streamer, menhera fans

>>56706839
Rushia built her career on lies that she's scared of talking to males and that she loves her chat and she will forever be only for her fans.
Then everybody learned she was chasing alien dick for years on top of playing apex with males and now, after another round of apologizing and promising she will never betray her mikeneko fans she decided to do another collab with males.
It was her personal decision to make those promises to her fans.

>>56706142
I'm starting to think her anties are actually more retarded than Coco's. At least those were able to move on after she left hololive.

>>56742873
It had stopped being Mikeneko yab thread in the middle. Apex bitching has been a frequent enough in this board that there is a real pattern of complaint and cope cycle. Especially when a Hologirl is involved.
Nijicucks didn't even need Apex because they have enough material to shitpost elsewhere.

>>56742875
Towapi kills hers unicorn with that "manager" accident

>>56720643
>Miguel has been pretty desperate to find a group to integrate with
Isn't she now part of that one corporation with the two Ames? I thought that was going to provide her with the company of other streamers she so desperately sought.

>>56745201
as far as I know there haven't been any interactions past generic twitter greetings from them. imo they're either scared of her fans/antis or are pissed she got some special treatment like her revenue split

>>56745201
As far as I know, she hasn't even acknowledged them once, and she doesn't even follow them on Twitter.

>>56744459
She is not a hologirl

>>56710114
In Japan and Korea everything is billion times more interconnected since they have big populations and one massive center where everything happens (25% of Japanese people live in the Tokyo Metropolitan Area and 50% of Koreans live in the Seoul Metropolitan Area) and pretty much all of them just stick to just their national internet scene.

>>56706142
2 males in the stream, plus apex is a bore to watch.

>>56706241
>who cares what kaigais are saying.
Mike should care because the Japanese have abandoned her long time ago. She loves her delusional oversea bros.

>>56717213
Did you know that wishing someone can actually get a proper husband/wife to take care of her/him is also a thing? I remember the shipping between Akasaka and Norio too for quite sometime, until Norio actually got married.

In her case, she's pretty old, and those are her IRL friends. It will be great if she can have more friends anyway. I'm sure everyone will celebrate it if she got married

>>56712298
>autistic
>Japan
there you have it