/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>56663067
Still related to Metanoia's dissolution, it seems like someone is cooking something.
https://twitter.com/LagannDragon/status/1693628634991341580
>Business will be closed if it's not profitable

>>56663154
well, ofc bussiness will be closed down if its not profitable, the better option is sell your bussines
but the contract or whatever written in it still has to be fulfilled

>>56663154
>Business will be closed if it's not profitable
This reminds me of our talk a couple of threads ago about Alterly, and recently I found a comment on YT that says Evos as Alterly owner cut their divisions elsewhere to keep their IBL club running so it's likely to be a key factor that caused those forced Perma-hiatus for Alterly and I can't blame them again same with Metanoia or NijiID since they've tried, they've fought hard but sadly the market says no

>>56663584
What intrigued me is it seems that Metanoia is generous enough to grant the remaining talent their IPs, unlike Alterly. And you're right, it's normal for VTuber agency to be closed if it's not profitable. Unless he knows the dirty laundry Metanoia had that related to its dissolution.

>>56663812
Nijis had many opportunities but they did not capitalise on them.

https://youtu.be/ZbWCxyeykW4
Lenad back to menkrep

>>56663812
i wonder what they were thinking by joining vtuber bussiness, what is the end goals? is it to promote EVOS as a brand or just simply trying to follow the hype?

>>56664050
In the end, it's what's inside the contracts that may have a part in how generous the management are; maybe they're really patungan at the beginning and commission the model afterwards which has varying prices, or, well, the CEO is just plain generous, we'll never know. And seeing how some of them may have historic ties with NijiID chuubas before NijiID even existed, there may be some helping involved behind the scene. The domino effect from The Merge Of Niji has a pretty impactful effect on some of the smaller agencies (especially Metanoia and Alterly, afaik), and we're now at the regenerative phase and shift of meta, into reality.

>>56664370
Once again, i, a fan, blame The Merge for this

>>56665173
Can anyone qrd on the history of Alterly? were they really a subdivision of Evos, or did Evos acquisition/bought them?

>>56665733
>Alterly
I think they're a subdivision of EVOS since the beginning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ij5trtUJm0U
Rui learns about Diet food?

>>56665733
Was the merge a consequence of Iwanaga leaving the company and Riku taking over and shifting the corpo culture in Niji?

Former Metas addresses yesterday's fallout
>Kawi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xoqdh-V1Czc
>Caitou https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E3zMmNZzWg

An unarchived hour with Wyne
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPRt5OHEMCM

>>56664050
I mean, it's a given in this talent first industry, but in reality, the opposite is the norm, and this makes image corpo really bad in the eyes of normal audience

>>56616258
what did they say in dm?

halo teman-teman
saya ingin menyundul

>>56663067
is it true that Harris Caine = the CEO of Metanoia Live ?

Although, I can't confirm that the agency's dying is solely due to this reason, but it is prolly one of the factor why all the talents have been abandoned for so long. Hence,resulting the agency to disband,

>>56667678
>spoiler
Where did you got this rrat?

https://youtu.be/eOJ0FReBKzw
Julie Chan Metal Slug Awakening

sundul page 10

Damn, board seems fast today ... And it's not even burger hour

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGRasBS7zDw
Happy anniv Vera!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv4KK1GhE9k
Ditaanyan plays Naraka

Fure doing Bakwan SMP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXEoX6DJ16g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCeWCo8ICPc
Seems like their Punkish MV waiting room confirmed AKA's status as jkt48v partner, now the question is how involved are they from just tech partner to main controlling management in this new project?

>>56667678
are u insane, Harris is the former talent of AOI ID

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYemdUV-NiQ
>15 more minute with 588 waiting
so anon what do you think?

>>56669774
I'm betting on Rendy has some things involved in there

>>56670166
If successful, we'll enter another exciting era in IDchuubasphere
If flops, that'd cement how volatile IDcorpochuuba are for aspiring future entries

>>56670166
it will be funny if they're speaking in english instead of indonesian

Context ??

>>56670166
>11K CCV
So far it's good.

>>56670893
>9k
too much stalling

so.. are they holo tier or not? I don't know about ID power ranking btw

>>56670956
It's not stalling, more like stream started too early since their twitter said stream starts at 7.15

>>56670688
might have something to do with azura

>virtual conferences
>3dpd
what the fuck is this shit?

>>56671016
Still far from it. If you know football/soccer, Hololive ID is like Bayern Munich on Bundesliga.

NICE CHUUBA IDKEKS

>>56670166
Good God, that's some ugly chroma-key. JOT please hire better videographer

Please buy better rig for your chuuba JKT. This stutter is horrendous

the blue girl mouth rigging is super shit

Watdefak with that mouth

>>56671330
>>56671412
If this is the best AKA in-house rig can offer, then my condolences to upcoming AKA talents

did these girls all comes from literal no one?

Yeah the rigging is shit

Should've been better with that JKT backing, but nah

>>56671441
Her head movement looks like Gema first model head movement. Did they have same rigger?

did jkt48v girls have debut streams?

Holo ID faggots are trembling.

I'm just gonna celebrate the growth of the ID market because my loyalty lies with the ID scene, not on one company. Despite I love the HoloID very much.
And it's a big win for me. Cheers for any true ID chads out there.

>>56671412
Axel tier mouth rigging. Look like shit desu

https://youtu.be/bL7d96LUAsU
Moza holocure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHtFqSyCwhc
Ruka plays lego
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxarjuPsKRQ
Nana freetalk at SPBU??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVcxMwbOxtU
Ethel-Katya DND
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JcDWCzR_G4
Mai-Alia learns nihongo but gaul

Why the fuck don't they put link to their chuuba channel

end 20 minutes before the cover release
jkt48 chama...

which one bros?
the oshi no ko characters looking dope

wtf with this unconventional debut?? or they will debut stream again later date?

>>56671902
So, who is this Koko Jon?

Kinda wish JOT is /here/, especially /warkop/, to search for some suggestions.

>>56672112
top left gonna conquer vtuber sphere
mark my words!!

Get in here, /warkop/. In ~15 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCeWCo8ICPc

>>56672112
the blonde one, i hate the blue rigging and the purple one is not my taste

>>56672112
Pia looks like a Xeapher child.
Tana definitely nonbi_re x Rein_ly OMG IS THIS THEIR FIRST TOMBOY CHILD?? DEFINITELY GONNA FOLLOW.
anyone have any info or at least a guess on who's Kanaia's mama?

>>56672204
it was good, looking forward to their music

Do you like it, /warkop/?

>>56673212
still cant tell who's who, it was good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMgGgDjwVb0
Ael ETS2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQvCdCf9iuE
Kousei Love Choice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-qY6GXPb9k
Nongdin + Non Dira
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9q5Lds5iaE
To koleb balo or not?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNe9rLwR6xc
Nobar with Meedy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIb5Jt56BfQ
Echi Plug&Play

>>56673212
The lyrics are a mix of usual JKT Cheesiness and a little bit of Joke eSeMpE material. The music is cool thou, Hope that they could evolve to a more Ladybaby/Passcode like sound with Screaming on it.

>>56673212
Not my cup of tea but plus points for them picking Rumskii and Bpk Sutirto for this cover, they know what they're doing in MV making

>>56671114
>dicallout sama Azura
what happened?
is that fake japanese 2 threads ago?

A Malechuuba posted in reddit on how hard it's to attract straight male audience (the majority demographic of stream watcher) in the west. Most of his viewers are LGBT crowd and despite him not sex-baiting, he still get sexual messages from men. His model is also not an ikemen type.
/Here/ malechuubas, your thoughts?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxDlrvn8BIg
Epel cheers herself with fanmessages

>>56670688
>Lao Guo is a nijinigger
I fucking knew it

>>56672112
Wtf that tomboy looks like budget Marine

i rike it

>>56673445
haven't seen nyai streams posted in a while.
what's wrong?

>>56674449
Anon, she literally streamed chink game in office hours yesterday: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKTE0zFpB0w

>>56674206
Now that you've said it, I kinda see the similarity. This one is the same mama and papa with Cupang, right?

>>56674635
Cupang Airi ?

Seems like it, i dunno, i miss the stream

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwqH_b1j9NA
Gema Karaoke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjGqfJZLhr8
Ave holocure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOTh2ssOat4
Mikuru vs Kopikanan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rESDL7r55Vw
Kay with Handcam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_Ypmliq0Yo
Miroh Gora vs DEBM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LjHGbc63kU
Vanta One Hand Clapping
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xOaeoYE5XE
Kimi talks bout her new cover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10tb8D6CBMw
Echi KIDS

>>56674845
>Mikuru vs Kopikanan
Send her some Nintendo soundtracks.

>>56674072
I'm afraid that's not right on many levels. I can affiliate with Twitch in a month and without this kind of crap. Unless your content is baiting for thirst content, then I know why he said that.

Also, male viewers that watch male vtubers is all about content. Maybe the content he showed attracted that kinda crowd. I played RTS for my main content on my twitch and it's easy to attract straight male audiences above 20+ (child get filtered).

t.aspiring malechuba

Why is North America is rich while South America is poor?
South America used to be richer. But it all changed when North America adapted more free market which more competition while South America protected their wealthy elites from new smaller competitors.
In the end North American economy is more dynamic than the South America one.

ID market is heading towards the South American path if Holo ID stays being the dominant player. Sure they're still creative and still provides fun entertainment now, but so does South America in the 1800s, they were richer than the average American.
Competition should topple Holo ID from their throne soon if the ID market wants to become a dynamic market. Long term fate of the ID market depends on this.

I need answers. When Indonesian content creators (including VTubers) said that they sell NSFW stuff on Trakteer or Saweria, is the content includes pornographic stuff or just gravure stuff at best (or worse)? I rarely buy any paid content on Trakteer and never buy NSFW content, so I'm curious.

>>56675692
they put gore stuff, eating fetus, bathing on period blood, etc

>>56675692
>NSFW
yep it's included in pornographic stuff

>>56675575
Some folks at Langley might have a hand on it too.

>>56675863
Humu humu...
Does the pornographic stuff just nude photos with the erotic pose or does it also includes sexual acts?

>>56675575
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmrra8i4hZY

>>56675575
i think its all about the willingness their viewer to support a talent
sometimes its not all about money, but sometimes clip, fan art, fanmade games, basically anthing that could get your oshi to better public recognition
the problem is, this is such a long game, holo been around since 2017
many miraculous things happen to them which incline them till this day are they god's favorite or what?
while alot of corpo saw this as a opportunity to ride a wave, they forgot it was the community that help holo to be this big, it was long, many ups and down, but here they are

>>56676066
all of it
>Pornography is a picture, sketch, illustration, photograph, writing, sound, voice, moving image, animation, cartoon, conversations, gestures, or other forms of messages through various forms of communication media and/or performance in public, which contains obscenity or sexual exploitation that violates the norms of or sexual exploitation that violates the norms of decency in society.

JKT48V debut date has been released.
https://twitter.com/officialJKT48/status/1693979331754860659

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HfGqppSG0k
Zoey playing Nier

>>56676996
they should debut first before today's show

>>56673212
The song suck, now I can see why they keep delaying their original album project

>>56677002
Anjir, ga kapok main NieR ya ... Padahal kemaren pas ending kelakuan chat-nya ga ketolong. Kemaren Gebi livestream NieR juga kena backseat parah banget

>>56677835
Punkish was an NMB orisong right?

https://youtu.be/KO_oGGDKHUs
Kana donothon
https://youtu.be/ITfKmkdSNfY
Caramello Unpacking
https://youtu.be/of98EXVtrg0
Cecil meme review

>>56677841
>kelakuan chat-nya ga ketolong
What did you mean?
Backseating?
She's gonna chop your kukuciao coughdickcough if you do it

>>56678013
I'm new to this, So that song is translated? No wonder the lyric so weird. Can they hire someone like rachie to translate the song, because most of the time I heard jkt song the lyrics always make me throw up.

>>56678613
Yeah, and this always happens with anyone playing NieR:Automata for the first time. I saw it happened with Taka, Zoey, and Gaby. Idk whether they're the same crowds, but my God, they're insufferable

>>56678852
they should taste anya's wrath

>>56678852
No worries, she (and her mods) can handle (ban hammer) backseaters and spoilers.
I don't pay much attention to the chat.

>>56675692
Are there vtubers who sell that kind of stuff? Kek who are you gonna purchase it from?

>>56679619
I need to know what's behind the paywall because I'm aware that it's a crime to do that in Indonesia, although you can question whether police will be able to enforce the law, especially in their state after the Sambo case. I thought it was just gravure stuff. Turns out it's a local version of Onlyfans. Or so Awanama said.

>who are you gonna purchase it from?
No idea.

sorry holoid bros, I will support JKT48v from now on to get the best idol experience

https://youtu.be/NjJ1y0033wk
Mai plays holocure

>>56681667
Congratulations for graduating as a holosimp, anon!

>>56675575
NijiID is dead. just give up with this hobby nijikek. it's done for you. done. holoid thriving because they have high standard and support not only from their fans, but also from their management. remember nijikek, you failed NijiID. yes. you.

>>56679619
Helix and Cacang sell it under their rm name

>>56673212
so far the bellow my expectations, their voice is boring and lack of personality. It's like seeing debut of indie vtuber. I hope they can be better after debut because I really want to see them to success so we can have new Fondation in this industry.

>>56673212
Was kinda hoping ZEA would reincarnate here desu

>>56672376
https://twitter.com/Yashacchi1

>>56683976
i think she will make it to id4 instead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQQNMxpRzrA
Kawi talks, sings and skems

>>56683330
This. Anybody who's still pity viewing their oshi instead of moving on, do other things, and make themselves more useful to the community deserved that

I just watched the JKT48V first appearance and the one thing very noticeable about them is their public speaking skill.

They're not your typical nerdy hikikomori gamer girl like almost every vtubers currently exist. They looks like full professional entertainers. The gap between an experienced real idol group management vs virtual streamer agency startups management is showing. Their talent scouting is clearly above average.
Their management is clearly very competent, so it depends on the girls now to make JKT48V to be a relevant agency worthy of being a competitor of Holo ID.

>>56686244
the biggest flaw is their l2d rigging

>>56686244
>VTuber with great social skills but shit L2D
>VTuber with great L2D but shit social skill

ded again?? not even 48V bring you guys a hype anymore? sheesh
sundul +1

sundul page 9

>>56686244
>They're not your typical nerdy hikikomori gamer girl like almost every vtubers currently exist. They looks like full professional entertainers.
I had this opinion too before. Sometimes Vtuber fans in big agencies set the bar too high & demand their Oshi to be perfect. Even though not all Vtubers get training or have experience like professional entertainers. But the response I get from them is denial.

sundul

bump

Ded ?

>>56684182
Oh plis no..

bump

>>56669817
Wait, which one? It's not Gita's genmate, right? he's now Hiruki Astral iirc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC_Dig2OKqw
rm's...... soo many rm's

>>56686244
almost like the hololive model was strangling the industry.
now that we have something good but different maybe the industry can grow

>>56686244
Now let's see if that's what ID wants, managerial competence means jackshit here if talents can't keep up with local demands

>>56679901
>it's a crime to do that in Indonesia
wait what

>>56711905
https://www.hukumonline.com/klinik/a/hukumnya-jual-beli-video-porno-di-situs-dewasa-lt60b4792beeb01/
Please note that this article still uses the outdated criminal code and not the newest one.

>>56712472
oh, I thought there's a law prohibiting commercial porn specifically, but it's from generic law prohibiting porn distribution in general lmao
no one gives a single flying fucks about that

>>56712634
>it's from generic law prohibiting porn distribution in general
>in general
Exactly. The scope is wide and may include the commercial kind.

>no one gives a single flying fucks about that
Eh, it depends.
https://www.detik.com/sulsel/hukum-dan-kriminal/d-6725769/ma-perberat-vonis-dea-onlyfans-jadi-1-tahun-bui-di-kasus-konten-pornografi

sundul page 10

>>56666024
Riku taking over? he has been CEO of anycolor/ichikara since day 1. Iwanaga was COO and Head of nijisanji, who is now a position from another person, which isnt riku

>>56713829
c'mon, anon, we all know that law always have a couple or a dozen generic law designed to trip every living things on earth just so anything can be criminalized on the fly if they happen to piss off the wrong person

though now that i think about it, this specific law also includes just the mere act of recording sex, so won't it also affect the celeb itself on that particular celeb porn leaks a while back

>>56686244
>Talent
Eeh, it's alright. I've still yet to see them do public speaking in their own debut instead of being introduced by other JKT member
>Manager
Kinda agree on this one, the introduction bit seems okay. MV was also olay, though nothing sepcial. However the real battle starts now. Can they grow the talent while adapting to the market needs?

>>56717023
Well, the chance of those content creators will be persecuted isn't zero, then. When you talk about "pissing off the wrong person," there's also the chance that they unintentionally do that. I think they're in the worst position than they, you, and I can imagine. Law enforcement officers most likely already know about them, but they decide to not enforce them for some reason.
After that day when I found there's a police posed as Gojek driver, I'll always assume that the police and others don't turn blind on NSFW stuff, especially on X (Twitter).

>won't it also affect the celeb itself on that particular celeb porn leaks a while back
Yes. There's a case about that.
https://jatim.suara.com/read/2022/11/09/113149/pasal-berlapis-untuk-pemeran-video-syur-kebaya-merah-kasus-skandal-ariel-noah-jadi-contoh

>>56719462
>Ariel
Got 2 years in prison.
Meanwhile, Gisel (same case) didn't get sentenced (as far as I know).

>>56666024
no the merge happen because anycara become IPO anon

>>56719462
>I think they're in the worst position than they, you, and I can imagine
I meant more that everyone is in worse position than anyone can imagine, anon
I mean, for one, we're posting in tibetian butterfly catching forum, that's a blacklist at best

>that article
>guy got prison
>girl get out scot-free
kek, typical

>>56719967
I belive that celebrity porn cases and whatnot are, most of the time, sacrificial cases whenever the Police has a big scandal to cover up

imho deidey is cute

>>56671441
this is that upcoming talents anon ....

>>56721136
So true!

Ollie can't really catch a break huh

anons, anyone of u know Naya Ishvara PL ?
a writer + her english is very good + hag

>>56722834
>dimas d'arc
>vox profile pic
KEK

>>56686244
>VTuber with great social skills but shit L2D
>VTuber with great L2D but shit social skill
>VTuber with both great L2D and Social skill but drama infested and grad early

You can't have all the good things at the time anon kun, monke paw's law is in effect

>>56723523
If JKT48v is successful, they could fix the shit L2D at anytime. Poor social skills however, will take years to fix.
So JKT48v can have both of the good things

>>56663154
>still no spill as of today
Where's this fella?

Also,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgMwP5tewnk
>"kar kamu jadi indie makin liar gk"
>"mau seliar apa? kalian pengen aku liar?"
>"siapa disini yang pengen sempak bolong Karissa?"

>>56721136
>>56721683
DEIdey is SEXy

>>56723055
qrd on this dimas guy?

>>56686244
Bruh public speaking skill doesn't equal with good vtuber or even entertainer in general. just look at big-name on vtuber Industry, gura aqua pekora is a fucking loser irl and doesn't have much friend. The charm of vtuber is not their public speaking skill but their personality. And so far all 3 of them fail in this catagory, they sound really bland and doesn't have interesting gimmick. Maybe it's better for them to become a caleg instead if their only focus is public speaking skill.

>>56723850
WHY ARE GUYS OBSESSED WITH AN USED THIN FABRIC????

>>56726309
yeah, we love awkward and retard girl, they are relatable to most of viewers

>>56726309
I feel like it can't be applied to ID audience with being awkward. Because shouting means entertaining at least for many bocil.

>>56722834
But she's get 1.1k views on that stream? Etf is she smoking

>>56722834
It's just like the usual catalognigger where they using numbers from first several minutes of stream as a bait.

>>56721568
That's the joke

>>56725841
VPU admod that fired another mod because paranoia get the better of him. Also, a huge Ollie simp from what I know.

New Deidey's short.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/uSU7HC4hBwg
>she doesn't crawl around the field like a vegetable for 5 million rupiahs
Weak.

>>56733540
i chalange deidey for 5mil if she willing to post her own lewd pic

>>56734044
Add 5mil if we can request specific poses

>>56734044
>>56736199
Checked.
Deidey is an artist, she must draw her own lewds.

>>56728781
Yep, loud and annoying seems a better option, though being a bumbling awkward would certainly attract somebody with similar issue

>>56728781
>>56740331
to bring wrinkles on the situation tho, how many of these bocil actually results in you receiving money

then again, them fleshtubers catering to bocil do actually getting them sweet endorsement money

>>56743422
bocil doesn't really give you money, but their views count could help you to pitch some endorsement
gachi brings you money, but how much gachi x how much money do they willing to throw for any stream/merch

can't really decide which one is better if i don't really know the numbers

>>56726309
Basically this
>Introverts
Shy, focusing on their own channels, can be awkward, 'relatable', strong personal branding, can be funny bumbling idiots
>Extrovert
Collab, Collab, Collab, Collab, Collab, better at public speaking, more flirty than introverts, weak personal branding

>>56743422
Gachis culture is kinda niche and you're probably better off just continue on idol activity as jkt48 if you simply want gachi. Also, it's not like Mithy is one of awkward vtuber tho. Also, funny anecdote. Windah's discord server on jkt48 is filled with student anyway so it seems kinda appropriate at least.

>>56746910
>Windah's discord server on jkt48 is filled with student anyway
windah a groomer?

>>56743422
>how many of these bocil actually results in you receiving money
actually a fuck ton. if you want to see bocil throwing money at streamer look at DeanKT dude racking in 3-5 millions every time he stream just from mediashare
if we count membership his membership cost 10k and when he do sensus penduduk there are 3k memberships
his average ccv are 10k-17k
even Windah admit that he is the rising star of Indonesia streamer and with his recent drama that somehow get wota and JkT48 attention

>>56747810
Well... It's "small donations from many people" instead of "big donations from a few people"?

>>56747752
I doubt that's related. But hey, his discord server size has 500k users. Decent sample for simple survey at least.

>>56747810
>DeanKT
>EVOS
Tf? Is this the same EVOS guy who owns Alterly?

>>56721136
deidey cute

>>56748728
he was ex ice president of evos legend he is now full time streamer.
he even said he get more money being streamer than being VP kek

>>56749898
Enaknya di indo, lu bisa jadi influencer yg banyak dpt banyak tawaran endorse sekaligus bisa jadi streamer yg dapet banyak donasi juga (terutama donet judi gacor). Apalagi di niche mobile game e-sportnya.

>>56747936
By having many people you'll easily attract those gacor donos anyway as low-budget ads.

so what's the verdict for the JKT48V? doa? promising but rough start?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Gew5foT_xo
Ael Only Up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSTsilmVSE8
Valita Little Nightmares 2

>>56751936
Promising, but it'll be a rough start. I just hope that the management didn't bet on quick growth and quick turnaround
captcha: g48gk

>>56751936
they haven't even started yet

>>56751936
I can only gib mine in 3 months, for now we should just let them cook but keep an eye out for their content, networking and most importantly how they interact with others

>>56663154
I read this again and the last tweet caught me off-guard so is this user somewhat related to Igni? Is this Igni rm account?

>>56749898
E-sports organizations have always been bleeding-money businesses, which is bad for financial decisions. Even Moistcritical said that in his video.

What with id chuuba and dono drama it's happening at least once a month

>>56754648
What's happening now?

>>56754648

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>>56754648
Idk, this one looks like a scam

>>56754648
https://twitter.com/RoseliaViento/status/1693910087931396485
Asked for 15 million, got 8 million in 2 two day
no content, no any kind of guarantees,

>>56754648
>>56757299
Strangely, there's similar Tweet last year from different indie (same amount of donation, same reason):
https://twitter.com/axtonnie/status/1570571364272312321
Why do I think it's a scam? Because from the latter tweet, there's no clear indication that the case was resolved. The latter also retweet (repost?) said tweet by the former, with no additional context, and and there's same person related to the parties involved (@GigarumonCh). I don't think this Gigarumon fellow is guilty, yet, but those two begging for donation are definitely suspicious

>>56757299
then its not a scam, its blatant online beggar
not illegal, but unethical

>>56757299
>>56757535
I mean, you can cry SCAM only after the person fuck off with the money lmao

until then, it's just beggar begging

>>56756612
>>56757299
>>56757535
>>56757597
>>56757666
Remember the artist who was in debt?
Someone posted his tweet here a few months ago.
What happened with his dono?

>>56757597
>>56757666
Honestly, if you're faking your reason to beg for money, doesn't it already qualified as a scam? Yeah, sure there's a photo evidence about the surat pernyataan ke PLN thingy + insulin pen stocks, I feel that the letter could be faked, and I don't think that amount of insulin is enough for her grandma (IIRC insulin shots are given at minimum like twice a day with different type of insulin?)

>>56757535
>The latter also retweet (repost?) said tweet by the former, with no additional context
Interesting, both have 15m dono for electicity.

>>56757860
without BPJS insulin cost 70k
1 pen can last for a month depend on dosage

>>56757990
is that normal price in Jakarta? here in Jatim my monthly electricity bill cost 200k and im using AC everytime when i sleep
i use heater for shower but im using the gas type, for laundry well i go to laundry place

>>56757860
i mean you could always put beggar and scam as the same categorize, but they still owe you nothing, thats why its dumb to donos/give something to beggar

https://www.cnbcindonesia.com/lifestyle/20230717111153-33-454923/kisah-pengemis-terkaya-di-dunia-punya-harta-rp15-miliar

>>56758178
Depend where you live. If you live in PIK or other elite residence, it's more pricy per kwh.
Also depend on how many kwh you use each month.
I read a certain chef spend 20m per month for his house.

>>56758178
I don't think so. Medium household (3BR all with AC, 2BA) pays around 2-3mill monthly. So, with that penalty being the double (or triple?) amount of monthly bill, you'll be seeing at least 5mill in your monthly bill, which is insane, considering that she only lives with her grandma (said both parents are gone, no siblings and relatives), no landline internet connection and doesn't have fridge (she said that she has to put her grandma insulin stocks on neighbor fridge)

Get in here, /warkop/.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TQiMS0hKPg

>>56758855
I'll watch you, discount Tomboy Marine

>>56758855
lmao get ready to get spammed by Melodean

>>56758855
I just realized that jkt48v only uses trakteer without saweria despite the latter being bought by the same corpo who owns jkt48v, so... Why did they bought saweria in the first place if they don't use it for jkt48v?

>>56758855
Kek, her Javanese accent is so thick. Also, her voice kinda reminds me of a younger Ony Syahrial

>>56758855
>start slipping javanese here and there

OK SOLD! NEXT PURCHASE PLEASE!!!

>>56758855
Now that I've seen her, I'd say that her rigging ain't that bad, but she's supposed the least bad of the 3, right?

JOWO PRIDE

>>56672376
>Tana definitely nonbi_re x Rein_ly
Damn you're right anon..

I dunno guys, but something about her thick javanese accent reminds me alot of Kobo accent too

>>56760216
her mouth didn't move, JOT get fucking scammed kek

>>56760216
same pair of mama & papa as Devi Nalawati & Airi Cordelia

Okay guys real question
is JOT allow GFE gimmick for their chuuba tho ? coz i feel like this Tana girl vibe is tomboy GF you can bring to tongkrongan

Is this Reine tier?

>>56758855
What a lofty goals (1M subs, 3D model). Will she able to reach them?

>>56760929
You have to ask Wota about the relationship between the Wotas and their flesh idols. It may offer some clues.

>>56761277
Low-tier HoloID, but still far above ex-IDs like Mika.

>>56761277
>2k for debut
lol no

>>56761314
>her mascot is Banteng Hitam

>>56761323
>Low-tier HoloID, but still far above ex-IDs like Mika
Even if they're can keep their viewership this way in upcoming months, this already puts them as the strongest competitor holoID has ever seen, let's hope their impact wouldn't fall below Mika one day..

>>56761277
You forgot about debut buff awan-chama.
We should wait at least 2 weeks to 1 month to see how many viewers she can get on average

>>56761472
2K FOR LITERAL WHO DEBUT IS STILL MUCH ANON
AIIEEEEE BOTTING, JKT BOTTING

>>56761323
This
is this unwritten rule between Wotafags applies to them tho ? cos i feel like tbey are just lax about this things and just do their typical chuuba keyfabe not like their flesh idol

Tana also mention about collabing with vtuber outside their agency, is male collab ban applies to them too tho ?

>>56761573
they are carrying JKT48 name anon, you can't call that literal who

>>56761485
At least the snout isn't white

SEX

>>56761590
>is male collab ban applies to them too tho ?
>get greenlight from Windah
well if JOT gonna apply no male collab after the biggest streamer in ID shill them.
then JOT is a fucking retarded

>>56761849
SEGGGSS

>>56761573
>all of these VTubers are mogged by a proper Japanese virtual idol

>>56761927
jilat udel jilat udel jilat udel jilat udel jilat udel jilat udel jilat udel jilat udel jilat udel

>>56761590
What's the rules?
t. only found out recently that Wotas still exist and doesn't extinct

ITS HER

>>56762193
SAHA???

>>56761925
>get greenlight from Windah
pls dont be another ollie situation
pls dont be another ollie situation
pls dont be another ollie situation

>>56762193
sopo anying

>>56761968
I mean, debut buff is real and all

>>56761925
So they're just laxing the idol rules for this group only huh ?

damn.... here i tought that they are unicorn friendly just like their main flesh branch, Tana also got me goslinged too....

>>56761968
damn.... they had uniform numbers of viewers
now i feel bad for hating them too much

>>56762193
yeah, bojo kulo

I don't like this expression, /warkop/. Her smug aura mocks me.

>>56762148
>unicorn friendly just like their main flesh branch
awikwok, delusional wotafag

2k ccv for a debut is pretty great right?
This is a totally new brand in ID, by totally new I mean they don't have any significant foreign fans like Hololive or Nijisanji.
From 40k debut number of HoloID, how many of them are Indonesian? Or to be fair, how many Indonesian watched Area15's debut at one time (not total)? I doubt it was more than 1k.

The real comparison will begin 1-3 months from now, when the number stabilize.
Also learning from Kobo, ID market has a bit of a lag problem, debut number doesn't mean shit because the talent could pick up another wave of popularity months after their debut. It isn't like most JP and EN vtubers where their debut is their peak and it will go downhill from there until it stabilize

>>56762542
meant for >>56762368

Hey, her singing isn't bad.

https://youtu.be/GkmZb5aUlew
I know yall excited about jkt48v but can anyone tune in into Andi rn? Something's up with his stream

>>56762542
the fuck, are they trying to recreate that porn meme with nigg and white girl???

>>56762556
well, its holo trademark to always be saviorfag, so big numbers always spill to lower member
while you already know that JKTv got a "bit" of backlash from their own fandom

>>56762556
>2k ccv for a debut is pretty great right?
good enough but not great

>>56762542
Fuck and here i tought their main flesh branch is unicorn friendly too

i dunno lur im not wota, i just tought that JKT also had same rules with their japanese main branch too

I tought that their anti males rules are strict

RATE HER DEBUT STREAM, /warkop/!

>>56762723
>shadow: none
>*never more starts playing*

>>56762723
Some seconds in and i already feel some energy that's similar to some of Zen's last streams

>>56762804
I'm pretty sure it's the same. It's not like AKB48 didn't do any male collab for shills activity or something. They just aren't allowed to have relationship compared to celebrity back then. I mean, Holo used to be like that until gen 3 JP debut exploded and suddenly becames walled garden because pekora back then kinda insecure about doing activity with m*les.

>>56762910
JAWIR/10
would tune in for her next stream

>>56762723
eh, so he's just using his pad vacation

>>56762556
kobo was garnering her own fans back then, that's what makes her powerful. she brings new viewers because she's different than anybody else in hololive. until one day she finally kneeled to holofag

>>56762910
JAWA JAWA JAWA!

>>56763030
>>56763638

>>56763030
>>56763638

i dont know how but Kobo always manage to do GFE stream like this, this is genuine GFE stream not gimmick

>>56764430
huh? NFS Stream? really? how?

>>56764430
>this is genuine GFE

https://twitter.com/tana_jkt48v/status/1694345356434436468

>>56764498
>spend 2 hours on customization
yup the real GFE

>>56763240
>until one day she finally kneeled to holofag
qrd?

https://youtu.be/YqLI_LNMLN8
New Purin is here!
https://youtu.be/yzBUJ483QjA
Naya Bookdate : Leigh Bardugo's Six of Crows
https://youtu.be/GTzVKsavqyE
Charles ngerandom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EIbuus5FvA
Cae returns after a week!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rxe9A71mjI
Daisy stream something.. But what is it?
https://youtu.be/GAd45mbqQZE
Overcooked 2 with Laika, Livy, Phina, Gebi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncuDnNgM1wI
Echi Memecheck

>>56762723
So... QRD on Andi's live stream today?

>>56764430
hello bang dillon, hehe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq-LUrPpOf4
Palo with Cupang
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A26TK-Qrwhs
Epel cheers herself with your words

>>56765439
>https://youtu.be/YqLI_LNMLN8
>"my friend started doing face reveal, so I fomo gaes"
oh nononononono
>"but I don't want to be famous, so I won't"
puji tuhan, buddha, dan sidharta gautama

Gods, I love this Tana. A major ID vtuber who doesn't shy of using occasional Javanese? With Cia gone, she can fill this empty place inside me.
Jawa pride! Fuck those Jakartan who accuse you of being Jamet. I bet their house were built by Javanese craftsmanship anyway.

>>56768029
>"but I don't want to be famous, so I won't"
This is what the automaton said huh? I'll never understand what anycolor where smoking when they hired these idiots for NijiID, like it's hiring 101 to only hire people who wanna grow your corpo yet NijiID got stuck in horrible KKN, they hired buffoons who've done everything to debuff NijiID only because popularity scares them, what kind of backwards mindset that was so bad it eventually crumbled the whole branch just because muh popularity le bad???

>>56768029
I like her pudding form better

>>56770390
she just specifically doesn't want to get called out in public by strangers, chill man
she also said that face reveal is inevitable because she's a VA and all, but she just doesn't feel like it currently

also you can't KKN when you're the very first hire

>Kobo doxx went viral on facebook
>Someone mentioned her real name on sociabuzz and livechat
Jeez, and Kobo's been on a really good mood these past few weeks, I hope she's okay

>>56770796
Wait, it's a new doxx?

>>56770796
wasn't it already posted on warkop weeks ago

>>56770689
>also you can't KKN when you're the very first hire
The problem was that their scouts nepohire talents from Ennichisai sirkels, and that already happened since 3SetBBQ until 3FicLite afaik

>>56771123
are you saying the scouts is also part of the sirkel

>>56770796
>(you) mentioned it while I didn't look at Facebook after Tana Nona's debut
>"Huh? Why is the past Kobo's cunny doxx goes viral again?"
>do my reps
>nope, it's a full-blown doxx
>it's real

>>56770912
No, it's an old doxx
>>56770914
There's already 200+ comment on her post on the Taiwanese cosplay group in the past 2 days to the point where she has to remove the image yesterday. Normies have less decency than doxxfags because in the end most doxxfags are hardcore fans that want to keep their oshi's secret to themselves.

>>56771301
Not the scouts themselves but NijiID was run by former Ennichisai higher ups and it's him who puts those nepohires into early NijiID waves
You can even see him as S.O. on anycolor interview here https://www.anycolor.co.jp/en/news/29-lmr7-o1

>>56765191
outdonesian market (Free talk English)?

>>56771845
Wait, is he the one that Ejak were disappointed with?

>>56765439
Purin opens mediashare!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fzC4yhOQV4
Mai unarchived whispering

>>56768249
kek funny thing when Jawa punch back they start using "its just a joke" kwab.
whenever you saw those kind of "jokes" just ignore it they only dare talk shit in internet

>>56768249
Also, her Javanese is most certainly not those royal Javanese (Jogja, Solo, dan sekitarnya), and more akin to those used to communicate by commoners. As a commoner Eastern Javanese, it fills me with joy

>>56771550
>There's already 200+ comment on her post on the Taiwanese cosplay group in the past 2 days to the point where she has to remove the image yesterday
wait what she is the one who post it?
no wonder in the previous free talk she talk about buying cosplay costume and doing cosplay
this fucking brat purposely doing this to bait Ojisan.

look like the rrat about her creating her own YouTube channel israel
she already have connections with illustration,MV,composer/mixer now she can create her own music without Cover cut and she can play her favorite Chinese kusoge

>>56776455
>look like the rrat about her creating her own YouTube channel israel
well cover doesn't forbid that, she can try

>>56776455
I'm not talking about that, she still does cosplay as a hobby but not publicly and she only shares them to her cosplayer circle, the one that got spread is the cosplay pic from she was 13.

>>56773684
Not really, that one was for middle management while as you can see on the interview, S.O. is much higher than that in niji hierarchy

>>56770796
Someone apparently tracked a JNE delivery with her name on the receipt

Head's Up sundulan tengah malam

Sundul

>>56777268
>cosplay pic from she was 13.
ToT

>>56779130
what the fuck for what?

>>56779130
Tf?

>>56771945
fucking retard nigger

To any future parents, don't upload your child's picture on the internet

>>56770390
>>56771845
for the sake of what i am about to say, i am going to use the correct term for this and that is cronyism, nepo is family connection while crony is friend connection.
i get being upset with the cronyhires when with foresight its obvious that it was not the best choice but there is a reason its pretty common for employers to do it, as it is easier to hire those you know rather than someone you hardly know, for multiple simple reasons
>they have a connect to you and wont want to burn that bridge
>you know them well enough to vouch for their abilities
>you are more likely to have good synergy with them already
>they are more willing to join knowing there is a familiar face
cronyism can obviously get bad fits into roles they are not good for but not nearly as often as nepotism hires where the presidents son gets a manager role for example..
it is the safest option for an employer to get employees who are willing to stay around and do their jobs, just look at how niji ID went the longest time without a single graduation, the longest of any company as far as i am aware.
complain about it all you want but wait until you need a job and your friend helps you by doing you a favor, i cannot imagine you would turn that opportunity down if you were given the option, just on the dislike of cronyism alone

>>56771845
you know, I didn't thought it goes that far up
it's one thing when it's the talents giving good words about someone that's going to be their co-worker, but it's really something else when it's someone with actual fucking powers hiring subordinate
much less you, the talents can't even do a thing about it
nepohire is inevitable, ex-ID has been doomed from the start

heck, that's probably the sole reason NijiID even created in the first place
dude just wanna fill it with his circle from the very start

>>56779130
ok, its straight up dox wether its real kobo or not
penyalahgunaan informasi
perbuatan tidak menyenangkan
retard people trying so hard to get those free jailfood

>>56779130
Wtf this is too far, this is not "I want to know someone behind her" level anymore but more creepy stalker like holyshit

Bumpo

Sundul

>>56792682
victim blamers would gaslight this with the term "that's the price of fame, bruv. Accept the risks". Common sense is already gone with people beyond "get some help"

>>56778464
Hmmm ... So he oversaw bunch of talent managers, and one of them disappointed Ejak?

>>56794603
>dude just wanna fill it with his circle from the very start
If this is the truth, then why the old livers (like Taka, ZEA, or Cia) who're supposed to be part of his circle quit then? Shouldn't they stay, given the circumstances? Did something happen to them, like, was there a feud between S.O. and them, or, did S.O. lose control of them the moment merger happened so they can't do activities as Niji livers anymore?

>>56806573
merger probably a symptom that the dude ain't got that much power no more

GOJO SATORU IS FUCKING DEADDDD