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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*>https://playboard.co/en/>http://ikioi-ranking.com/>https://vrabi.net/>https://www.vstats.jp>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-rankingHololive sites>https://holo.poi.cat/>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html>https://trackholo.live/en/>https://www.hololive-songs.com/Nijisanji sites>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly>https://twitter.com/2434rankings>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber>https://www.nijiuta.com/Twitch>https://sullygnome.com/>https://twitchtracker.com/>https://stats.roki.sh/Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp
>>56623151BASED BASED BASED
>>56622836The catch is that the girls are paying for each others projects through that 15% cut
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN, NON FLESHBAG, NON-Z PODIUM *>36,809: Pekora (Hololive)>29,256: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>28,634: Subaru (Hololive)>28,355: Queue (Indie)>27,732: Nerissa (Hololive)>26,508: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)>19,907: Shion (Hololive)>19,105: Hololive (Hololive)>18,379: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>18,210: VOLTACTION (Nijisanji)>18,098: Korone (Hololive)>17,291: Towa (Hololive)>15,835: Fubuki (Hololive)>15,386: Watame (Hololive)>15,328: Lamy (Hololive)>15,281: Nene (Hololive)>14,673: GatchmanV (Indie)>14,484: Hinano (VSPO)>14,172: Ange (Nijisanji)>14,030: AZKi (Hololive)>13,600: Fuwamoco (Hololive)>13,289: Mio (Hololive)>13,144: IRyS (Hololive)>11,654: Korone (Hololive)>11,483: Met (VSPO)>11,435: Kagami (Nijisanji)>10,969: Hoshinova (Hololive)>10,291: Koyori (Hololive)>10,020: Polka (Hololive)tally dwarf is a retard
>>56623214BASED BASED BASED
okay but do the jew talents have their own personal butler?
>>56623214>AUGUST 2023 GOLDS1) Miko (Hololive) - 148,555 - Anniversary 3D Live2) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 53,484 - Radio Program3) Yashiro (Nijisanji) - 57,320 - Koshien Practice4) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 51,111 - Koshien Practice5) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 81,637 - Nijifes Announcement6) Pekora (Hololive) - 104,044 - Mario Party (w/ Marine, Kanata, Koyori)7) Flare (Hololive) - 55,591 - Anniversary Totsumachi8) Noel (Hololive) - 91,382 - Anniversary 3D Live9) Rikiichi (Nijisanji) - 39,244 - Koshien Siren Competition10) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 94,194 - Koshien Pre-Tournament Stream11) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 206,963 - Koshien A League12) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 215,338 - Koshien B League13) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 254,415 - Koshien Finals14) Pekora (Hololive) - 66,070 - Fate/Grand Order15) Aqua (Hololive) - 124,725 - Anniversary 3D Live16) Pekora (Hololive) - 42,994 - Only Up17) Shion (Hololive) - 95,618 - Anniversary 3D Live18) Maimoto (Nijisanji) - 180,341 - Graduation Bait19) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 134,582 - Koshien Highlights20) Mio (Hololive) - 70,279 - Birthday 3D Live21) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,809 - Metal Gear Solid 3 Finale>PER COMPANY11x: Nijisanji10x: Hololive>PER STREAMER6x: Nijisanji4x: Pekora1x: Aqua, Flare, Fuwa, Ibrahim, Maimoto, Miko, Mio, Noel, Rikiichi, Shion, Yashiro>2023 GOLDS>PER COMPANY158x: Hololive58x: Nijisanji6x: Indie5x: VSPO4x: Neo Porte>PER STREAMER55x: Pekora20x: Miko17x: Marine9x: Nijisanji8x: Subaru7x: Toya6x: Kuzuha5x: Aqua, Suisei, Yashiro4x: Hal, Hololive, Mio, Shiina, Towa3x: Chiroru, Fuwa, Iroha, Leos, Okayu, Koyori2x: Aki, Flare, Fubuki, Hinano, Ibrahim, Korone, Lamy, Lui, Maimoto, Nerumero, Salome, Shion, Watame1x: Air, Ayame, Beni, Chloe, Choco, Fuwamoco, Gaku, Gura, Gundou, Hibari, Himawari, Ina, Kaede, Kanata, Kanato, Kiara, Laplus, Lize, Mel, Mito, Mori, Noel, Nose, Nozomi, Nui, Polka, Ponto, Qpi, Rikiichi, Roco, Ryushen, Ui
>>56623214I dont think Pekora would be happy to get that gold.
>>56623214
>>56623214>>56623274based
Idol trying to intimidate small sized Vtuber corpos with their infographic make more sense. Even then, they still won't be able to touch VSPO and above.
Is Advent (EN3) still ticking in subs everyday? How's their growth
>>56623214>>56623236
Oh God it's fucking happening againWe're going fucking kon-kon kitsune with this shit aren't we
>>56623214This is a nice ammo for the pekosanji poster.
>>56623274Wait Koshien is over? Nijigods I don't feel so good
>>56623151/news/ anchorReply with a short description of the news and a link to the source!News from today:>More Idol revenue sharing datahttps://twitter.com/idol_corp/status/1693680623825691021>holocure review by well known gaming sitehttps://www.rockpapershotgun.com/this-vampire-survivors-like-has-catgirls-is-brilliant-and-costs-nothingYesterday's news:>VWP and KAF One Man Lives announcedhttps://twitter.com/VWP_virtual/status/1693315423826284984>VOMS has finalized their auditions and will be debuting their next wave in Octoberhttps://twitter.com/VOMS_Project/status/1693272652205728132>Idol revealed it's sharehttps://twitter.com/idol_corp/status/1693356309163160029>Guests for Ririsya's 3rd anniversaryhttps://twitter.com/Ririsya_music/status/1693471903703589007>Hololive's B2 controlled channel resumed activityhttps://www.bilibili.com/video/BV11N4y1d7ZM/>Miko taking a break due to deathhttps://twitter.com/sakuramiko35/status/1693540016067088518>Holodex down for a short day or twohttps://twitter.com/holodex/status/1693547002888659293>MGO Starpeggio announcedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KWwxbP-swk>holoID livse in Indonesia, Malaysia and Singaporehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWrGSkSHJYQ>Botan's Redbull column https://twitter.com/RedBullGamingJP/status/1693548498258469175
>>56623214>>56623339
>>56623214pekolishposting time!
>>56623214I am sure this won't ever be used against holo, no sir.
>>56623382Next year Koshien will be 3 months long
>>56623274>PER COMPANY>11x: Nijisanji>10x: HololiveIs it a close race between the two in the remaining days or is it going to be one sided?
>>56623214>>56623404
This is why the term Holobronies was coined.
>>56623334well, FWMC is currently at 511k right now.might be 12 or 13 later today
>>56622836Three things I can pull off my ass.1. They can say no.2. They incur accounts payables instead, with the promise of paying the 3rd party when their talents hit a certain revenue3. Talents pay but they get reimbursed if they hit a certain revenue
>>56623453Koshien is over what do you think?
>>56623456>>56623214
>>56623376Yeah, nice armmo to kill himself with
Pump and dump?Pump and dump.
>>56623492>>56623214
So did cover say anything about the b2 upload? It could be just whoever the new owner of the channel uploaded without authorisation.
btw.as far as i know, homoEN never had to resort to donothons like small corpos and nijisanji do.that says a lot
>>56623334
peroperoperoperopero
>>56623214>>56623543
>>56623562you rang?
>>56623550nope, they dont control that channel the only one who needs to authorize anything is b2 themselves
>>56623550Hololive literally has no control over that account.It's always been run by people in B2, and they do whatever they want with it.Current theory is that they are desperate to get money flowing through their coffers, so they're re-activating any dormant revenue source they can possibly pull, even if it means they have to start leeching shit like their holo accounts. This is because their Q2 losses were way worse than people were forecasting.
>>56623550Why would they say something when they are trying to hide it LOL. Cover wants back into China but fears what the fans will say
>>56623384Typos on>livse>revealed it's share
>>56623585>>56623214
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJzCmHZk5LEI guess the views of Toko's cover of Seishun Complex will slow down even more
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *>47,437: Tsukasa Tenkai (Indie)>40,640: Pekora (Hololive)>29,256: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>28,634: Subaru (Hololive)>28,355: Queue (Indie)>27,732: Nerissa (Hololive)>26,508: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)>19,907: Shion (Hololive)>19,105: Hololive (Hololive)>18,379: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>18,210: VOLTACTION (Nijisanji)>18,098: Korone (Hololive)>17,291: Towa (Hololive)>15,835: Fubuki (Hololive)>15,386: Watame (Hololive)>15,328: Lamy (Hololive)>15,281: Nene (Hololive)>14,673: GatchmanV (Indie)>14,484: Hinano (VSPO)>14,172: Ange (Nijisanji)>14,030: AZKi (Hololive)>13,600: Fuwamoco (Hololive)>13,289: Mio (Hololive)>13,144: IRyS (Hololive)>11,654: Korone (Hololive)>11,483: Met (VSPO)>11,435: Kagami (Nijisanji)>10,969: Hoshinova (Hololive)>10,291: Koyori (Hololive)>10,020: Polka (Hololive)
>>56623611im pretty sure, the talents that were there during the whole ordeal would not like for them to return there.
Is Mumei a Mammal?
>>56623559Are the Baldur steams multipov? I could see Bijou winning and giving her a boost to the 400k
>>56623611in your dreams bug
>>56623214>>56623629
>>56623665IT'S HAPPENING AGAINNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
So the very few indies still interested at this point of 2023 in going corpo are going to give up Holo and just try Idol?I guess some desperate ones will try NijiEN
>>56623611batsoup stained hands typed this posts
>>56623412you can try, and get called a retard again, dwarf.
>>56623665>>56623214ALL OUT WAR
>>56623665This chart kills the elves
>>56623665>AUGUST 2023 GOLDS1) Miko (Hololive) - 148,555 - Anniversary 3D Live2) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 53,484 - Radio Program3) Yashiro (Nijisanji) - 57,320 - Koshien Practice4) Ibrahim (Nijisanji) - 51,111 - Koshien Practice5) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 81,637 - Nijifes Announcement6) Pekora (Hololive) - 104,044 - Mario Party (w/ Marine, Kanata, Koyori)7) Flare (Hololive) - 55,591 - Anniversary Totsumachi8) Noel (Hololive) - 91,382 - Anniversary 3D Live9) Rikiichi (Nijisanji) - 39,244 - Koshien Siren Competition10) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 94,194 - Koshien Pre-Tournament Stream11) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 206,963 - Koshien A League12) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 215,338 - Koshien B League13) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 254,415 - Koshien Finals14) Pekora (Hololive) - 66,070 - Fate/Grand Order15) Aqua (Hololive) - 124,725 - Anniversary 3D Live16) Pekora (Hololive) - 42,994 - Only Up17) Shion (Hololive) - 95,618 - Anniversary 3D Live18) Maimoto (Nijisanji) - 180,341 - Graduation Bait19) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 134,582 - Koshien Highlights20) Mio (Hololive) - 70,279 - Birthday 3D Live21) Tsukasa Tenkai (Indie) - 47,437 - Mahjong League>PER COMPANY11x: Nijisanji9x: Hololive1x: Indie>PER STREAMER6x: Nijisanji3x: Pekora1x: Aqua, Flare, Fuwa, Ibrahim, Maimoto, Miko, Mio, Noel, Rikiichi, Shion, Tsukasa, Yashiro>2023 GOLDS>PER COMPANY156x: Hololive58x: Nijisanji8x: Indie5x: VSPO4x: Neo Porte>PER STREAMER54x: Pekora20x: Miko16x: Marine9x: Nijisanji8x: Subaru7x: Toya6x: Kuzuha5x: Aqua, Suisei, Yashiro4x: Hal, Hololive, Mio, Shiina, Towa3x: Chiroru, Fuwa, Iroha, Leos, Okayu, Koyori2x: Aki, Flare, Fubuki, Hinano, Ibrahim, Korone, Lamy, Lui, Maimoto, Nerumero, Salome, Shion, Tsukasa, Watame1x: Air, Ayame, Beni, Chloe, Choco, Fuwamoco, Gaku, Gura, Gundou, Hibari, Himawari, Ina, Kaede, Kanata, Kanato, Kiara, Laplus, Lize, Mel, Mito, Mori, Noel, Nose, Nozomi, Nui, Polka, Ponto, Qpi, Rikiichi, Roco, Ryushen, Ui
>>56623669I'll breed her anyway
>>56623687>>56623214
>>56623611>Want back into ChinaYeah, the real China, Taiwan.
>>56623669Shes an antropamorphic personification of human civilization. She resembles both a human and an owl but is actually neither. Shes a being composed of divine energy brought about by human belief
>>56623214BASED>>56623665CRINGE
>>56623665>>566237342x: Tsukasa (full flashbag pros streams)kys dwarf
>>56623778I will fuck a god, then
>>56623707if something of this level it's enough to have them drop the hololive aspirations in favor of donathons and leeching gura with shorts good riddance.
>>56623214>using non-zthis shitposter is newfag
>>56623274>>56623734notto disso shitto agen
>>56623214HOLY BASED
>>56623214>>56623274>holobronies care this much about some non-existent medalspathetic, you already let the baseball convert channel which isn't on vrabi steal the gold from kuzuha/niji, stop the holopocrisy
>>56623602>>56623605Yea I meant just issue a statement saying that account is no longer affiliated.
>>56623778She often gets on her knees to provide me with human relief as well.
*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*>8/21 DAILY TALLY25,408: Nerissa (Hololive)13,600: FuwaMoco (Hololive)13,144: IRyS (Hololive)9,387: Kronii (Hololive)8,919: FuwaMoco (Hololive)8,395: Bijou (Hololive)7,850: Ina (Hololive)7,746: Mysta (Nijisanji)7,511: Baelz (Hololive)>EN GOLDS FOR AUGUST 20231) Bijou (Hololive) - 26,316 - American Truck Simulator2) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 28,132 - FuwaMoco Morning3) Shiori (Hololive) - 24,103 - Advent Pajama Party4) Shiori (Hololive) - 31,094 - Unarchived Karaoke5) Mumei (Hololive) - 36,054 - Birthday Stream6) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 33,109 - Karaoke Stream7) Nerissa (Hololive) - 26,823 - Monetization Karaoke8) Gura (Hololive) - 20,176 - Night Security9) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 18,197 - Overcooked (w/ Bijou)10) Fauna (Hololive) - 13,792 - Pokemon Unite Tournament11) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 16,685 - PHOGS12) Gura (Hololive) - 20,185 - Phone Games13) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 28,329 - Karaoke Stream14) Mori (Hololive) - 19,674 - Offcollab (w/ Marine & Baelz)15) Bijou (Hololive) - 15,654 - Holocure16) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 23,148 - Japanese Stream17) Nerissa (Hololive) - 14,106 - Powerwash Simulator (w/ Baelz)18) Gura (Hololive) - 15,562 - Holocure19) Ina (Hololive) - 19,894 - Fate/Grand Order Sponsor (w/ Kronii)20) IRyS (Hololive) - 53,910 - 3D Showcase21) Nerissa (Hololive) - 25,408 - Unarchived Karaoke>PER COMPANY21x: Hololive>PER STREAMER6x: FuwaMoco3x: Gura, Nerissa2x: Bijou, Shiori1x: Fauna, Ina, IRyS, Mori, Mumei>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)58p: FuwaMoco24p: Nerissa23p: Gura21p: Bijou20p: Shiori8p: Mumei7p: IRyS6p: Kiara, Mori5p: Fauna, Ina3p: Luca, Mysta
IRyS, now would be a good time to pick up the pace a bit. She's starting to get kinda close.
>>56623707Let them make that mistake
>>56623803To be fair there are several gods in Hololive and many people want to pork divine beings in this company
>>56623752>>56623214
>>56623810>dwarf has nothing left>n-newfag!
All those Idol financial tweets and shilling reminds me of this time period.Idol is directly going against a dominant market leader and expecting to topple them by... just copying them but with "better numbers".It's not really gonna end well for them.
>>56623214not this shit again. what's 5ch take on this?
>>56623707If they are happy to settle for something that will go nowhere then they probably didn't have it in the first place.
>>56623838Will Mysta and his two graduation streams be the only EN golds for Niji this month?
>>56623214>>56623852
>>56623835If they wanna do that, it'll be a while until then.Because you know how fucking slow Elevens are for making company statements and shit.
>>56623838>2023 EN GOLDS>PER COMPANY174x: Hololive55x: Nijisanji3x: Holostars1x: Idol>PER STREAMER22x: Fauna21x: Gura, Mori17x: IRyS, Mumei14x: Ina13x: Baelz, Kronii10x: Amelia9x: Kiara, Mysta, Vox7x: FuwaMoco4x: Pomu, Selen, Shu3x: Bijou, Nerissa, Nina, Ren2x: Alban, Finana, Hololive English, Ike, Luca, Shiori, Wilson1x: Enna, Elira, Flayon, Fulgur, Luxiem, Millie, Petra, Regis, Roca, Rosemi, Sonny, Vesper, Bandage>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)216p: Fauna166p: Ina160p: Mori150p: IRyS141p: Mumei121p: Baelz114p: Gura101p: Kronii91p: Kiara83p: Amelia80p: Mysta74p: Vox64p: Luca63p: FuwaMoco37p: Shu31p: Selen27p: Nerissa26p: Bijou25p: Pomu24p: Nina, Shiori19p: Ike16p: Ren15p: Enna, Fulgur14p: Sonny, Uki13p: Finana, Millie11p: Axel10p: Alban, Elira, Hololive English, Wilson9p: Vesper7p: Regis6p: Rosemi, Bandage5p: Flayon, Luxiem, Petra, Roca4p: Magni, Bringer3p: Bettel, Hakka, Kotoka, Poko1p: Kyo, Maria, Meloco, Shinri, Pippa
>>566238715ch/matome always just uses whatever vstats has on top that day, so theirs will be tsukasa
>>56623841Mumei is unironically botted. She doesn’t even fucking stream how the fuck does she keep ticking
FAUNA DOKO
>>56623214>>56623898
>>56623835their whole leaving china already done that
>>56623926STOP NOTICING THINGS FAGGOT
>>56623891For no reason someone might do an unarchived Kareoke or two this month HOOCHA
>>56623707They either choose the Rye route or the Bijou route.
>>56623926Moom cutest
>>56623891Mysta is graduating twice?
>>56623891I dunno, man, I think a good majority of us were pretty sure that he'd get gold from the final ever Karaoke stream, and then he fucking blew it hardcore.Imagine if they put the first Council 3D Showcase on his graduation for some top-level counterprogramming
by the way, their name is idolCorp and they haven't done anything idol like at all.if they have infinite money, why don't they do 3D lives?Pro Kawaii already did one AND they are giving their top talent a sololive.and im 100% sure they are richer than them.
>>56623841There's no way she catches IRyS even if she gets 40k a month, it'll take 2.5 months for Mumei to hit 1 million. IRyS at 20k a month would hit 1 million in 2 months.
>>56623931Breastfeeding Mumei
Why are male vtuber so fucking sensitive?
>>56623214AS a nousagi, I don’t condone this shit, same way I didn't condone halschizo, and I hope this one dies off faster. Pekora doesn't need your pity points to be the greatest vtuber in the world.
>>56623214>>56623799>>56623856kys newfag
>>56623891how the fuck can you have 2 graduation streams?
>>56623841Mumei will catch up and then they will start collabing almost daily, they will reach 1M together and finally KronMei and BaeRyS will die
>>5662355080-20 chance they won't say anything.I think most Chinese fans already know about the Bilibili situation, so if that's the case, they don't need to talk about it, the fans will educate each other.They only need to say anything if the Chinese fanbase had 90%+ people believing that the Bilibili channel is legit, but that's no longer the case nowadays, so they can just mind their own business and this too will blow over.
People forget just how many non-China Chinese people there are out there.
>>56623861Barrier of entry is way lower to be fairFor hololive that is, these small corpos couldn't make newbies feel welcome if it killed them
>>56623967That's all it takes to become a fucking fast sub grower?Just be cute?!?
>>56623989Why did you like that tweet
>>56623214>>56623939
EUgods here's our chuuba, fucking Serie A Milan-Bologna watchalong kek
>>5662383823 streak counting the 30th and 31st of August.
>>56623926She's cute, she's sexy, that's all she needs.
>>56624026well did you see gura?
this is for the flare posters out there
>>56623989those are not malesmales don't become VTubers
>>56623926There is a button on peoples channels, it's big and has the word Subscribe written on it. What happens is people go to the channels and they click this button, which in turn causes the numbers to go up.
>>56623214>>56624029
>>56624032sorry, I'm more of a Bayern Munich/Arry Kane fan.
>>56623957Eh I think he'd beat 40k with a graduation, fucking Nina didAlso we've yet to see how hard the now giga overlap will affect Gura. The fact that Bijou, Nerissa and FWMC are pretty much always there to sap Gura (along with Fauna sometimes) makes reaching those big 30k+ peaks hard. We've already seen them reduce Gura to her floor over and over again for 2 weeks.
>>56623980This IRyS 20k month only happened because of the advent boost and no2 her 3D showcase. That shit doesn't last forever. She was sub 10k pretty much every month besides her redesign. Sometimes as low as 6k a month. Mumei is not dependent on events to gain subs.
>>56624016I'm getting ready for the ultimate, state-sanctioned cope:>The Mainland is the ultimate authority over all Chinese worldwide, so no matter who you pander to, you're pandering to us if you offer anything in our language at all!You'd think that would be a pathetic cope over the Hololive situation, but it's also literally top-level policy
>>56623974>>56623995
>Miko going on extended hiatus due to """family"""AHAHAHAHAHA GET FUCKEDPekoschizos deserve everything coming to them. Make sure to save up money to throw at her when she comes back crying!
>>56623995Part 1 and Part 2. Nina did it.They'd be on the same day for the EN audience but on different days for the CN audience (and for the tally).
>>56624076>>56623214
>>56623997That would honestly be really cool but Mumei is an autist and starting school soon and IRyS is a HikiNEET.
>>56624058Yeah but she's also dopeyI still unironically believe that her fucked up gwombus face was a key factor in her growth
>>56624032any milan fan chuubas from outside italy immediately expose themselves as hags since only they would remember the last time they were good enough to get bandwagoners
>people still homobegging at idolen
Raids are such fucking bullshit, Irys has no business being on the podium with this stream
>>56624122>>56623214
>>56623980IRyS will slow down tho, mumei for watever reason kept ticking even when the subbing (pre advent) was stagnant.I’ll admit it would be pretty kino if they did something together (off collab Karaoke?) if they got close to 1 million together.
>>56624114This is the new meta. >hire a bunch of vtubers>graduate one by one>1 month graduation buff + 2 part graduation streamit's fucking genius
Advent daily subscriber numbers increasing a little…
>>56623980IRyS is out of ammo for this year unless holoEN does a christmas karaoke relay but that would buff also Mumei that still have to 2 anniversary streams in her sleeve.
>>56624104Names it HoloTW Checkmate.
>>56624154The jew tells them to fuck off every time, he even blocks them when they get annoying
>>56623214kys>>56623799This one>>56623990As a nousagi, I agree with this anon
>>56624155>IRyS beat Mysta TWICE
>>56624024Most Holofans never had to shill their oshis, but even in the rare occasions that they had to, I think all they did was send you a couple of funny anime girl clips, either gameplay or something else funny happening, or them telling a funny story.I think the last time I got a small corpo clip recommended was Tenma playing that voice controller kusoge. That shit was hilarious.Among all the astroturfed shilling on /vt/ there's never once been any funny clips that they recommended to you to get you interested.Hell, even the fucking homos had that psish clip a while back.Zero clip recs just proves how fake their shilling is.
>>56623214>>56624165
>>56623214>retard thinks he can hijack the tallywill pobably samefag "holobronies are the worst" or something similarkys
>>56624155I just wanna say Nerissa is a shit singer. I fear her career will quickly drop to Bae status unless she somehow distinguishes herself.
>>56624184They'd name it HoloTP
>>56623554I don't think they're really allowed to, Kiara wanted to do a crowdfounfing for her lore videos but mentioned there might be problems like management doesn't want them to imply they need money, seem like it's something they've discussed on meetings and shit. Having said that axel had a whole begging stream and multiple roulette karaokes to milk more money from his fans.>>56623707No, they're all going to join Cyberlive a true talent-first company.
>>56623838>>56623903Will Fuwamoco manage to beat Faune by the end of the year?
>>56624016Your point being?
Shout out to the Magni/Vesper fansI've been seeing lots of support across social media even in their absence. Y'all make me happy to be a Tempura
>>56624154I want to see homobeggars start up a corpo for male vtubers just to see it fail miserably.
>>56624155Nijiseethe
>>56624154>I love female vtubers buuuut
>>56624189>>56623991wrong life>>56623214
>>56623559I assume this and your screenshot are 2 days worth of growth since Holostats was down for a bit
>>56624155IRyS is the raid baby
>>56623665>40,640: PekoraNot not 40k, it was a Z nousanji
>>56624097Mumei also floats around 10-20k a month when not having one of her growth spurts. She also got an advent boost. Either way I'm expecting them both to get there by the end of November
>>56623214based>>56623665kys you stubborn, literal retard
>>56624221Honestly has been a disappointment for me. Covers are nice but I thought I’d get lots of Karaoke streams out of her.
>>56624215I got coworker addicted to holos by spamming this on slack :)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGj-Z8A3Br8
>>56621562of what vesper and magfag told them idol strikes me as a corp that would pay to get insider info from competitors, they paid for ads and dramafags like khyo to shill them and quite likely tried to hire DN as advisor at one point. If it turns out that producer creep have links to Aviel I wouldn't be shocked at all.
>>56624032>not cheering for bolognasoulless
>>56624280>>56623214
>>56623214HOLY FUCKING BASED
>>56624221>>56624307Stop samefagging
>>56624155Lmao Mysta flopped twice.
>>56624336>>56623214
>>56624114Jezas
>>56624351Stop coping Jailbird, once I’d think maybe it’s nerves but 2 times in a row?
>15 talents>5 streamsFucking grim night for EN
>>56624380>>56623214
>>56624170Shiorin is going to ressurect their growth
>>56624307She just needs to fix her setup, calm her nerves and practice singing (without a studio making her sound good)
>>56624419>>56623214
>>56624380JESUS PURE SEXBROWN 2D WOMEN ARE SO FUCKING SEXY
>>56624281yes
>>56623214Why do faggots keeps trying to manipulate the tally? This makes it so much easier for me.
>>56624407Without Advent, this would've been a 2 stream day with only Mori and BaeImagineGura or Mumei will do a surprise stream anyways
>>56624407>Bae>Mori>SC readingSo 2 streams? Gooba pls stream today….
Too many newfags coming after Advent thinking they own this place when they have literally never seen Tsukasa gold, baka
>>56624181>IRyS is out of ammo for this yearHold on just a second! IRySs big day that she worked tirelessly on and planned for months is currently, as we speak going viral playing second fiddle to a random homostar stream. The thousands of upvotes recieved will surely boost her pace to the moon.
>>56624462>>56623214
>>56623214>>56623665What happend this time?
>>56624515The yearly Mahjong kerfuffle
>>56624407Did gura say why she hasn't streamed for the past 3 days, or did the spirit world take her back? She might pop up a frame later.
>>56624407So realistically shiori is the only one of these hitting at least 10k right?
>dwarf tally anon has turned schizo again and samefaggingthe sad state
>>56624503>>56623214
>>56624484>calling out newfags>got filtered
>>56624032Oh nice, took some effort to find a stream of the match
>>56624515Who knew it's that easy? A nijinigger just reposted the tally to make hololive look bad and voila it works.
>>56624219kek, already did>>56623833
>>56624170Shiori took a 10 day break and bijou was only able to get an 11k lead on her...
>>56624531>Biboo with no Advent overlap for two hours, and only having to fight against a Superchat Stream until Shiori Return StreamShe's got good odds
>>56623214>>56624540
>>56624529Tummy hort. Too much Red Bull and not enough sleep
>Raids are okay now>Tally can be changed whenever you see fitOh come on newfag kun.Also holo doesn't need another fake gold to secure this month anyway.
>>56624529Gura killed advent's debut buff so her job is done
Being in an active unit "Holotori" boosted mooms subs huh?
>>56624585>>56623214
>>56624444She said she's never going to take karaoke as a serious performance to save her throat. Of course, you could point to people like Watame who sing every week on top of being near the top hours streamed for the entirety of her career as that being a bullshit excuse, much less non Holomen who do the same, but that was honestly a pretty clear sign of what to expect from her.
>>56624547>implying I didn't do it on purpose senpai
>Holodex is off today>an EN is streamingSo like, what's that gonna do for viewcounts?
>>56624407I will actually enjoy the Fuwamoco superchat stream. Wont get over 6k though.
Can some non-schizo explain the issue?
>>56624629>>56623214
>>56624635>you could point to people like WatameEveryone is different in terms of throat strength. Remember when IRyS tried it and then fucking died for months?
>>56624154>Shows the money people get in idol>People that don't even know the basics of the corpo show up making demandsLmao
>>56624624Mooms been “Boosted” for months now.
>>56624667Remember how Watame isn't a retard who takes vocal lessons on how to keep her throat alive, while IRyS downs soda by the gallon, which is something Suisei has talked about not doing?
>>56624693There is literally nothing wrong with soda
Eh post more flares, dwarf is going schizo over not getting his retarded way
>>56624658Fleshies
>>56624667Retard, that’s because she was being overworked at the studio. She literally told them she was dying and Omega made her keep going because of scheduling.
>>56624407RIP streak of 5 views in EN tally gold unless NijiEN is somehow able to get 10k out of nowhere. 21 straight days of 10k+ is nice though.
>>56623841Irys can't beat my warehouse of smart fridges, sorry
>>56624570I think Bijou will maintain it though, but don’t know.
>>56624635>>56624667>bedroom singers that never bothered to learn proper technique goes muh poor throat excuseWHY DONT THEY HIRE A FUCKING TRAINED SINGER I AM GOING INSANEA SINGER CAN PRACTICE 2 HOURS EVERY DAY NO SWEATA SINGER CAN FUCKING BELT NO PROBLEM IT DOESNT DAMAGE THE VOCAL FOLDS YOU FUCKING IDIOT NERISSA
>>56624713>not getting his wayEvery time people try and fight the dwarf, they eventually give up and the dwarf wins.Happened last year, too, remember
>>56624635KEK Oh okay, nvm she's going to be another 4k shitter that hides behind regular song releases to get views.
>>56624678Yeah I can see that, But I think It has begun since her last collab with Gura. Gura's influence really help her
>>56624215I mean holos have more clippers and bigger clip channels so it's kinda hard to compare but idol doesn't seem to stand out on the Vtuber market in terms of their talents or their chemistry (standout would rather go and suck homo dick), they don't really have a niche like Phase with their unhinged IBS antics (well to some extent, it's mostly pippa) they kinda try to copy hololive with that idol thing but don't really invest in music or 3D studios honestly marketing is their ONLY strong point that's why the whole thing feels kinda artificial.
>>56624154>Vtubing is one of the few fields that is female dominated>Wants to push males to the forefront insteadWhy are women like this?
>>56624749Trained singers fucking suck at being entertaining
>>56624711https://youtu.be/OK8kmrCfEBw
>>56624749>NO SWEATWith this I am talking about damaging the vocal folds, you will feel it in the muscles of your body though
>>56624755So Owl's a leech? She's nothing without gura huh
>>56624664>>56623214
>>56624723nta but so? holo sponsored mahjong match also had fleshy commentator and it was counted.
>>56624032Is Puligod starting today? I'll sub if she supports the new American imports
>>56624749She sucks without mixing and she knows it. The I’m not taking it serious was cope the whole time
>>56624749Calm down. I bit too heavy on the HRT holy shit.
>>56624529new kohai are no longer a thread time to go back into hibernation mode
>>56624833>>56623214
>>56624113Kys schizo. Miko loved her grandpa and she is currently grieving.
I don't give a shit about the fleshies winning the tally, just keep posting more brown elf SEXO.
>>56624773I have proof otherwise
>>56624733Shiori return might break 10k
Would one of the girls playing Titanfall 2, get them a buff?
thread's english levels rapidly decreasing as schizoposting rises
>>56624874>>56623214
Man this match sucks balls, even sexy lizard girl won't make me keep watching it
>>56624773Azki can play geoguessr and be a 5view
>>56624154Wants homo representation just for the sake of it, won’t watch or support them.
>>56624892Sora is less "trained singer" and more "trained geisha," specifically for me
I heard from my uncles cousins sisters room mate, that HoloES is coming soon and shareholders were adamant that it's a great market with many tier lists and such.
>>56624892How did she do that?
>>56624755Anon remember she also sing's suisei's song. She's really desperate in those subs kek
>>56624836Ask the schizo. Not my problem.The vtubers may be playing but they only speak until a winner emerged. Also, this happened before and the issue was already settled with not much resistance. The spergout happens this time for some reason.
>>56624907>>56623214
>>56623989Apparently there was a trend for Tempus to stream with period simulating device, some sisters think it's in poor taste other's love it "brotubers" is not even a meme at this point so I'm not surprised nobody talks about it here.
>>56624635>She said she's never going to take karaoke as a serious performance to save her throatYou shouldn’t repeat that if you like her, because proper singing doesn’t actually work that way for a trained singer. They can do live performances, no problem.
>>56624896In what world does it not break 10k? The competition is weak and demand for Shiori should be high with her return. I'm thinking 12k, more with a Bijou raid
Sora is a woman.
>>56624752dont talk about yourself in third person, schizo
>>56624944>and the issue was already settled with not much resistanceThere was SO much shitposting about that, what are you talking about
>>56624952>>56623214
>>56623989They have period
>>56625026>>56623214
>>56625005proof?
>>56624963Does the second half of my post give the impression that I like her? I keep hoping for an EN Watame/Hachi/old Rene who'll just do a fucking karaoke stream every week. It doesn't have to be perfect, just good enough and a regular occurrence, but the only EN chuuba I've found that does it and is a passable singer is Roca.
>HOLOLIVE BOARD>HOLOLIVE THREAD
>>56625067>>56623214
How many kids do you think Flare has by now, and with how many fathers?
>>56624844He just scored
>>56625019Sorry I didn't remember. What I remembered is that it got settled.
>>56624836It's just nousanji coping, they tried so hard to bot pekosanji's MGS3 stream but still failed to get the gold yesterday.
>>56625076Of course its an idolshill
>>56625103>>56623214
With a little over a week until the first month of Advent here is an update on the>30 DAYS TRUE AVERAGE AND MEDIAN OF PEAKS, HOLOLIVE ENGLISH, 2021-01-01 TO 2023-08-21The short summary for it is>WHAT TOOK THEM SO LONG?!They seem to have passed a local peak on the 17th with a 9,283 average, comparable with the IRyS + Council honeymoon and with last years grandiose summer.The median, likewise, in a local high and comparable with the highest peaks in 2021 and 2022.Again: WHAT TOOK THEM SO LONG?!
>>56625103>>56625106black flare
>>56623214>>56623274>>56623324>>56623825>>56624302>>56624338>>56623833>>56624547>>56624723kys>>56624113anon, I know you hate pekoschizo, but please don't use that as shitpost
>>56625135>people who values singing watches one of the few trained EN singers in vtubinghuh how weird
>>56625121Try harder anon, I am too old to fall for this shit, have a pity (you).
>>56625141>>56623214
>>56624319kek I got my anime watchalong group into it by playing Mogu Mogu Yummy on Discord while we waited for everyone to gather before the day's episode.
>>56625135Only chuubas I've given money to are AZKi, both sides, and Hachi.
>>56625165>quoting facts about the schizoRetard
>>56623214>>56625183
>massreplying
>>56624407FWMC SC readings are always fun
>>56624407>More than 1 stream todayWe're winning
>>56625135>Of course its an idolshillWell he’s not actually wrong in saying she’s good at singing.
>>56625168You fuckers are so annoying
>>56625222>>56623214
>>56625144>Already recliningGrim times ahead
>>56625275>>56625269
>>56625144what happened on July 18, 2022? This is when the graph started crashing. Could there be a specific event we can link to that date?
Are Europoors worse than Sisters?Sisters>Don't watch streams>Dox>Shitpost all day>Constantly demand shit they don't watch>Superchat>Buy Merch>Go to eventsEuropoors>Don't watch streams>Dox>Shitpost all day>Constantly demand shit they don't watchThere's a big difference between the two.
>>56625269>>56623214
>>56625165Anon, I merely pointed out the reason of the spergout. I will explain to you since you are so slow.>Tsukasa Tenkai held a tournament with vtubers as players but with fleshies as commentators>Schizo deemed it unacceptable, thus wanting it to be disqualified.
>>56625323but what about eurorich
>>56625319The day Tempus was announced?
>>56624407It is a monday so I get that they take a break, it is their "weekend" now>>56625268If there were 1-2 good EN FPS chuubas you wouldnt call us annoying for saying they were the only good FPS chuubas. But since you are a retard and cant hear when people are good at singing you lash out.
>>56625144>HoloEN numbers look like this nowIt's so over
>>56625333>>56623214
>>56625267He's not wrong but it's a bit obnoxious, probably the exact same guy who made the Nerissa bait thread in the catalog. You just know that poster came from /#/.
>Nijisanji is reclaiming its top spot in Japan>Hololive is returning to ChinaAre we in 2020?
>>56625319>>56625359>>56625144
>>56623214>>56625378
>>56625392>Nijisanji is reclaiming its top spot in Japanrumao
>>56625392>Nijisanji is reclaiming its top spot in Japanproof?not baiting the other one
>>56623550The fact that they're silent about it concerns me the most.
>>56624255Whatever that may look like, they already got their test run at nijiEN and it backfired
>>56625144never forget
>>56625411>>56623214
>>56625445>Japanese company doesn't react to something with lightning speedSo unprecedented
>>56623602>>56623605Maybe they got control back? Just a possibility.
>>56625456>the decline started with the announcementlmao
>>56625144kek, here are the four "arcs" of HoloEN since 20211) Algo change2) Stagnation3) TOTAL COLLAPSE4) Jap
>>56625479They never HAD control. That's how B2 works. You don't GET to control it if you aren't Chinese.
>>56623611Don't tell us what we already know.
>>56625457>>56623214
>>56624889We all know how much Miko loves old men, don't need to remind us.
>>56625341Sorry. I shouldn't have quoted you. I thought you were part of them
I did not realize they were this fucking popular, wth. It's the most successful case of an OG transitioning into streamer. They get more views than Fubuki and Korone.
>>56625502might as well change TOTAL COLLAPSE to HOMO
>>56625508What about their CN manager or CN employees?>>56625423>>56625431Yes? Back to back monthly golds in July/August will do the trick.
>>56625525>>56623214
>>56624771I'm talking about waaay back in late 2019, when Holo's biggest talent was Fubuki and she had barely 250k subs. Even by then they had a few funny clips like the one with Shion and Korone in minecraft talking about her accent, or the AkuShio neighbor war, or the "Hololive resistance/ja teki dane?" clip.It took a while for chuuba clipping to reach a big level, but even in those early days holo had a bunch of funny and interesting clips that you could show to potential new fans to get them interested.Both of IdolEN's top talents have been around for 9 months, and they have 200k and 500k subs respectively - yet I've not seen a single uniquely interesting clip coming out from either of them. It's just strange, and like you said I suppose the marketing is literally all they have going for them.
>>56625572Nope. Never had control of the account. They had at best control over their own branch's channels, but the main account was B2 corporate only.
>>56625573>>56623214
>>56623554different marketmen (target audience of female vtubers) want to provide for women and the smaller the chuuba the more potential for paypigs to groomthe target audience for homos (Chinese women and yumejos) only want powerful and socially approved men, if their guys start begging for donations their value will crash through the floor
>>56625485pure coincidence it was actually the girls fault, especially Gura, because she stopped streaming around that timealso Sana artificially boosted the numbers with her graduation touralso summer break endedalso all of the EN vtuber scene started dyingalso the planetary constellations were really bad based on astrological sciencealso the planetary schuhmann frequencies dippedit was all of those things but is has NOTHING to do with our precious boys who even held their own against all these debuffs!
>>56625572Reclining event number is reclaiming? what
>self hating flip menhera numberfagOur representation is leaving soon...any last words for him?
Are you fag so bored that you are arguing about a normal ordinary tally? There aren't even any special event today from Niji or HoloImagine fighting this hard over one gold
>>56625616>>56623214
Would Hololive even survive this?
>>56625582Well, most Idol clips I've seen are of Rin and /jidf/ hates her so they're not going to shill her.I've also seen coombaiting clips from Yuko.
>>56625572The CN manager literally stabbed Cover in the back and tried to steal their models.
>>56625658Somehow not the worst NijiCN had to offer.
YAGOO
>>56625502Omega and his troons. The scourge of EN.
>>56625638SO true, oomfie, the boys couldn't control the fact that Mercury was in retrograde
>>56625638They did have an impact. The extent of its damage is unknown except for the delay of EN3.
>>56625664>>56623214
>>56625582I assume shorts are the equivalent for idol, but only rin is successful?
>>56625359No way, it couldn't be. Beggars told me that EN homos would be a smashing success and that those who don't want them are a minority.
>>56624667>>56624693Watame even wears a wetmask at night to keep her throat moist. She advised IRyS on them too, but I don't know if she ever followed through.
>>56625704>>56623214
>>56625677Now you're just making shit up
>>56625686kek
>>56625572Cover's "CN employee" are just B2 employees/some random chink in power. They went rogue and proclaimed that they support the One China Policy when the Taiwan thing happened and Cover didn't know anything about it until later.
>>56625748>>56623214
>>56625667>Akai Haato will graduate (Rushia Treatment)instantly the most fake shit that I've ever seen in my life, retards don't even know shitImagine if they were letting Ame release a duet with Chammers this week, only to nearly immediately after, scrub her from the face of the Earth
>>56623838>25,408: Nerissa (Hololive)>13,600: FuwaMoco (Hololive)>13,144: IRyS (Hololive)>9,387: Kronii (Hololive)>8,919: FuwaMoco (Hololive)>8,395: Bijou (Hololive)>7,850: Ina (Hololive)>7,511: Baelz (Hololive)BASED BEHAVIOUR DESU.
>>56625791>>56623214
>>56625756>Cover agreed to let the CN branch keep all their models and assets
>>56625384So who should be used as a comparison when there's no HoloEN member who does weekly karaoke? Fucking NijiEN?
What the fuck is that? Another convert?
The homobeggars are even doing it to idol.
>>56625825>>56623214
>>56625582Those blue ones are trash, graduate them. They'll never get numbers.
>>56625667It looks more like a wishlist than a leak.
>>56625861>>56623214
>>56625831No one in NijiEN does weekly karaoke either, or even monthly karaoke. the obvious other choice is Beryl but I don't want to enter vsinger timeloops again
>>56625756NTA but the managers over at CN were telling the CN talents, or they might be all in this together, were trying to gaslight cover into letting them keep their model. A lot of them went on stream to say that live to their fans when it was clearly not the case.
>>56625582>Both of IdolEN's top talents have been around for 9 months, and they have 200k and 500k subs respectively (...) It's just strangeIt's not, not in 2023. Subs are cheap in 2023, they weren't in 2019.Here is the top 12 for Subs in the month gen4 debuted. 332k would put a channel in the top 10 of all vtubers.In August 2023 Fuwamoco beat that 4 days after debut.For quite some time subs are no longer a good proxy for either popularity or notability SPECIALLY for those getting subs out of tje #shorts audience
>>56625359correlation doesn't equal causation retard.
>>56625913>>56623214
When did Tencent buy shares of Hololive? Shiori already had to censor calling Chinese made products shit. Things will only get worse from here.
>>56625582Because it's almost wholly artificial, boosted by ads and shills who were running their thread here. Their en branch came out to bigger success than the original but were still shit until one of them leeched Gura and hit the algo. Then the "gura fan" seeing this also made a short leeching her and hit some increase also. The second gen was also heavily shilled and they paid for like 50vtubers to react to their debuts and ad boosted everything. When you pay for numbers and don't get any good talents it's no surprise there is no natural break out clips or funny moments.
>>56625667WE WOOOON HOLOLIVE KNEELSYAGOO WILL SAY "CHINA NUMBER ONE AND FUCK COCO" DURING THE LIVESTREAM
>>56624475>Gura>Mumei>streamingLOL
>>56625956>>56623214
>>56623838>Mysta before his frame: Only Up w/ an harmonica>Mysta's frame: "I'm vomiting"What the actual fuck is his problem?
>>56623903>216p: Fauna>22x: FaunaUNCHALLENGED. UNPARALLELED. UNUNSURPASSED.
>>56625932>into letting them keep their model.Worse. The model is the cheapest thing, as Mike just proved by hiring the same illustrator for a "close but not exactly" margarine substitute for her old model.NijiCN management was trying to get Cover to let them keep>THE SOFTWARE STACKthe 2D and 3D software they used. which would obviously result in the chinese cloning Hololive wholesale with zero effort
>>56625582People like Fubuki built vtubing. Idol has people that put Gura's name in their shorts.
>>56624243assuming they get roughly the same amount of points for the last 3 months, yes.
>>56625852>the biggest thing idol will get out of this is a lot more homobegging leeches who have never researched the company before
>>56625950>debut more girls>charts be going uphmmmmmm I dunno anon, seems to be the case for this one
>>56625531Miko is a lesbian and she has a girlfriend (Suisei)
>>56624243>Will Fuwamoco manage to beat Faune by the end of the year?Unless they relapse or tone down, they have 3 guaranteed 10k+ streams per weeks with their morning show.It would be hard to keep pace with that for a streamer averaging 7k or so
>>56626068They didn't have access to the software in the first place or the wouldn't have even made the demand. They would have just cloned and called it a day.
>>56625667Is this after the Pekolypse?
>>56623246sometimes they're babysitters like in Iroha's case.
>>56625997>>56623214
>>56626139God bless the server-side component that made it impossible for them to clone.IIRC a lot of the functionality of the "Hololive" software was done server side to take the load off the device it was running, and it might have saved Cover because if it was all client side they would have cloned it without batting an eye
>>56624889Shouldn't have lusted after some oji san cocks during her maiden trial back in January.
>>56626175>>56623214
>>56623976He's already done two karaokes in as many days. Seems he's going to die by spam as he lived by it. Maybe if he does one more on a weak day he'll get something for his trouble.
>>56625582both of those sub counts are artificially inflated by shortsniggers, their real numbers are probably 80-100k subs
>>56626212>>56623214
>>56625894Well, remember the quality of China's last "Leak"...Does anyone have that picture? The one where it's like>Everyone was in the office and yelling at Coco for how much she fucked up>Aqua came in and personally berated her for causing this issue>her termination seems all but certain now, guys>Source: Chinese leaker in Hololive
>>56626260>>56623214
>>56625502Why does Stagnation show them soaring upwards several times? Nonsense title
>>56626310>Aqua came in and personally berated her for causing this issuekek, wtf? No way that was in any written form of text
>>56626310and like the day after fubuki hangs out with coco
>>56626185If it was a coincidence before, it's a feature now.
>>56626310None of this actually happened, go on and debate me though.
>>56625848man these retards should be considered vfurries, not vtubers
>>56626317>>56623214
>>56625661blame that retard newfag who try to make tally that remove tsukasa
>>56626310this one? it's so fucking good kek
Late 2020 was really a dark time for VTubing. I'd rather be in 2023 than Late 2020
>>56626185That’s why the require good upload
>>56623214>>56626392
>>56626342reminds me of that meme going around of Aqua bulling Rushia while drooling and passing by obliviously.
>>56626339Both the spurts above that line and the crevasses below that line ended up "returning to the mean"
>>56626409THAT'S THE ONE, ALRIGHT, THAT'S THE FUCKING ONE
>>566232146-19 win for nijisanji, hololive is dead
Is it a coincidence that this is happening while animate Taipei is getting a holocafe?
>>56626437>>56623214
I remember when you fags highly shilled her because of her rm. What happened?
>>56626443kek, the other version of this one, right?
>>56626409Kek, what gutter oil does to one's mind is a truly marvelous phenomenon.
>>56626409What's with the european audience nonsese kekDid they mean NA?
>>56626409>stable cooperation and investment from china>the west is too unstableFun how that turned out
>>56626480>>56623214
>>56626492gotcha
>>56626502Someone translated "EN" to "Europeean" for some reason
>>56626502they mean the west it's a tn error afaik
>no MC Monday Grim
>>56626491>highly shilled her because of her rmWut? People even knew who the fuck Meloco was?
>>56626409kek
>>56626446But there wasn't a mean before that and no, both growths were bigger than the one dip
>>56626502It means the west / western worldt. not a chinkoid but I am a europoor
>>56626532>>56623214
I think it's funny they think Holo will go back there when their psychotic behavior was caused the death of a branch and Coco, the outfit redesign for multiple vtubers, lost sponsors, getting treated like lepers by other vtuber corpos, etc.
>>56626535One of the funniest pics in the whole history of this place
>>56626409>we will never get shit like this againThank God, but I do miss it sometimes
>>56626585>>56623214
>>56626491She joined the wrong branch since she is a highly charismatic kansai-speaker when she speaks japanese but a bumbling fool when speaking english
>>56626477I mean look at that Watame and try to tell me it doesn't calm down your schizoid brain.
>>56626544>holodex down>no Goobers streamit really is over for EN
>>56626491Honestly those views seem decent considering she's a shitterAlso hedgehogfags gave up on her once she turned out to be a fucking Lucub and gave up on karaokesThe "why didn't Yagoo save her, she should be a Holo" posts did age incredibly bad though
>>56626635>>56623214
>>56626409what a huge coincidence this week every """leaks""" also came from the chinks
>>56626622Please tell me someone saved the retarded manga of Aqua being bullied by Cover cause they FORCED her to leave her chink fans, shit was hilariousProto oshi no ko tier
>>56626622>the post ends with them bitching about how the islanders eat "American meat"How is this not parody
>>56626681>>56623214
>>56626622>WatameWe know the real reason things didn't turn out well for them.
Is tonight the Gura Short or is there one more first?
>>56625711Shorts aren't the same, since the audience is completely different to streamwatchers.Also shorts are self-shilling, there's a different nuance and a bit more genuineness when someone else takes the time to make a clip about you and then spread it to other people.
>>56626622God I forgot how chuuni they were
>>56626443Didn't this rrat start because Rushia told a drama channel she was being bullied in hololive because someone was overlapping her streams and turns out it was Aqua?
>>56626732Context here, back then taiwan was considering importing american pork with added 'lean meat enhancer or some shit'. It was a nothingburger but the bugs made it into a big deal.
>>56626746>>56623214
>>56626622Damn, the fact that he dropped a mixtape just to shitpost is incredible though.
>>56626722SAY NO MORE
>>56625852> Brazilit's so hard to not be racist when pattern recognition works so hard against it.
>>56626783>werethe only news that i still follow from competitive LoL is the chinese reactions of the international competitions, they are ballistic/over the top.
>>56626546Newfagchama
>>56626824lmao
>>56625920>spoilerI miss her...
>>56626814>>56623214
>>56626824Reminder: This is supposed to be about Aqua
>>56626846>tfw EG is kicking the hornets nest in Valorant by shitting on chinese teamsI so look forward to it blowing up
>>56625946It's less valued, sure. But my point was that generally Holo and even Nijis had people clipping their antics and spreading it around for people. Even phase connect had this.I'm just surprised no one is doing that in any of these Idol shilling threads or discussions.
>>56626864what a waste of fubucopy...
>>56626890And, of course, guess who?
>>56626881>>56623214
>>56626544aiEEEeeeeeee
>>56626890Aqua that far back was so incredibly autistic that if a strange man came into the room she would sit in a corner crying and doing autism noises
>>56626891ah yes shangai has been added to the champions tour next year, the seethe will be glorious
(Zhang) Expectations:>>56626890Reality:>>56626535
>>56626795No proof honestly, /#/ was searching through her recent schedule at the point to see who overlap her the most and closed down to Aqua. The old Rushia timeslot was quite empty too so it's easy to see who could be overlapping her
wtf is a Yu Q. Wilson?
>ywn eat Lui delicious hag paellaSometimes I ponder whether this mortal existence is even worth the hassle, I don't know ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY9CURlReK8Maybe putting an end on it right now would award me a chance of reincarnating as a cute Hololive girl.... just saying....
>>56626921>>56623214
>>56626915The idea of some japanese woman having a mental breakdown cause she cares too much about her chinese fans is so ridiculous. How could they not see it?
>>56626915My favorite part:>MOVING MONEYBAGS
>>56626966u cute wilson
Su-SUGOI
>>56625121>Jeremy is going to lose his family in the floodsThat sucks Jeremy but you kinda deserve it...
>>56626622they all act like some mongolian basket weaving forum schizo without the anonymity
>>56626982>>56623214
>>56626653Not a schizo but Watame does kinda piss me off. She seems to have no remorse about endangering the company's reputation with low quality output and doesn't interact with her own genmates. She didn't even care when Rushia was fired and never collabs with my oshi Suisei.
>>56626987>you missed this chance and you probably won't have another oneAh, yes, Aqua notoriously had no more 3D Lives after leaving China
>>56625121Anon this is not even the first time this argument happened, it's not about Pekora, do your rep
>>56626755Watamage isn't real.
>>56627038>>56623214
>>56626477Taiwan loves Watame for some reason
>>56627044>Not a schizo but
>>56627057
>>56627044Watame wants to make fluffy music that makes people happySuisei wants to be cool and seriousThey are incompatible
>>56627076Post oshi or no balls. Don't lie, Watamage can read your mind.
>>56626890>>56626915>>56626987>>56627057The entire thing sound more like what the chink did to Hololive
>>56627076Nice, I was tired of waiting for another niji graduation
>>56626908>It's less valued, sure.It's not less value, don't get me wrong. My point is that subs are easier to >STUMBLE UPON BY CHANCEsome dozens of chicks tried to leech Gura in the shorts algo, only Rin succeeded to get some subs out of it.It's not guaranteed, merely a lottery.On the other side of what you are talking about, clipping is a work of passion. I used to do subs for series (like House M.D.) and even with the subs already done in a language I understand (making the work merely to translate it into my language) was a task that took me about 3 hours for a 23 minutes episode.You can't buy what's done for free and you can't beat a work done out of love.What Idol, Phase and the rest of the micro corps lack is exactly that>a loving audience
>>56627104>Ah-Ah>Of course you wouldn't get itWhat the fuck did they mean by "Ah-Ah"
>>56626969> tfw remembered the Paellera storyRIP to the Kek dude
>>56626824>>56626890>>56626915>>56626987>>56627057lmao if cover was really this cut throat about buisness they would have axe the homo branch years ago
>>56627089>>56623214
>>56626984Gutter oil has lead in it IIRC
>>56627162I swear, this final page became accidentally propheticBUT NOT FOR HOLO, LOL
UOH
>>56624407>>56624529I’m late to this here but Myth are probably all traveling back to Japan. I’m almost positive Ina said she has to fly out to Japan for the holosummer concert and then she’s flying right back to CA the moment it’s finished because she’s got shit she has to do. So yeah, in a couple days all of Myth and Council should be in Japan
>>56626987>moneyit's always about this huh for the chinks, they even put it in all their rrats
>>56627212holy karmic justice kek
>>56627212>a big family under the same companyNijiCN organs, DON'T LOOK!
>>56627135>was a task that took me about 3 hours for a 23 minutes episode.NTA, but If anyone thinks this is full of shit, my job works with a transcription company, and they quoted an 8:1 ratio for the minimum amount of time required to transcribe dictations. Granted, it's a bit more fucked there because half the dictations are by ESL mumble rappers.
>>56623214>>56627195
>>56626969AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH, HAG HOMEMADE COOKING!>PLEASE MIO-SAMA, I CAN PAY!
>>56625392>>56625572Do you honestly believe that Nijisanji will keep on getting golds?
Looking to be their biggest short of all time.
>>56625969Pretty sure Rin blowing up in the algo was no accident, she actually pays someone to edit her shorts, probably scripts too it's all very professional and designed purely with numbers in mind.
The average novelite
>>56627212LOL
>>56627292>>56623214
>>56627212kek, thanks for the new shit posting material anon
>>56627320don't forget the shark! oh no no no
>>56627212kek. NijiFamily in shambles. Hololive thriving!
>>56627113Hoshimachi Suisei. My oshi is untouchable.
>>56627286Wut? Nobody can doubt 3 hours for a 23 minutes episode with the transcription already done in a different language, only requiring a translation and a quick check to see if the original transcriber didn't fuck up anything.When there was no original transcription and I had to make it from audio you can turn that 3 hours into 6 hours EASILY
>>56627335>posting AquaNever post that retard againShe looks so fucking stupidStupid people shouldn't be allowed in Hololive
>>56627330it's not even 1 month what is this mental illness
>>56627135> a loving audiencePippa (and by extension, her company) is deviating from the Holo style in order to bring a more twitch style streaming to Youtube, and is getting the appropriate audience.But naturally, they're just rubberneckers, and if Pippa ever stops being "unhinged" as they say, they will simply leave.Same with Rin and Yuko, they bring in their own audience with their same brand of "weirdness" but that brand is just NijiJP (which NijiEN completely whiffed when translating it to EN) which also brings with it an audience that's quick to pick fights with others in the same group.The million dollar question for them is how to construct that "loving, passionate audience" for themselves without becoming yet another "holo lite" company?
>>56627330God bless him. We need more fans like that.
>>56627343>>56623214
Man, this whole China thing resurfacing reminds me of when they tried to set EOPs against FBK and Pekor on leddit by posting the abayo chocoballs and gorira clips. Little did they know...
>>56627394It is called being a great fan
>>56627330kinda based ngl
https://twitter.com/idol_corp/status/1693680623825691021
>>56627400>>56623214
>>56627406I KNOW WHAT WILL MAKE THE WEST HATE COVERSHOW THEM MIKO CALLING THAT GUY A NIGGAOH NO, HOW COULD THIS HAVE BACKFIRED
>>56627389That includes you then anon.
>controversy with the tally results in people posting a fucking torrent of chocolate lewdsW-we should have trouble more often, maybe... I didn't realize there were so many Flare lewds...
>>56627406Kinda like the japs getting mad at the barbie account posting barbenheimer or some shit so they started doing jokes about 9/11 and pearl harbourReally shows the vast mentality difference between east and west
>>56627090Yeah but Fubuki and Aqua being there must have ruffled some feathers. I wonder how the bugs will feel when startend have a concert in Taiwan.
>>56627319It's their only good short. Of course it'll do better than the rest.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qgSvLudAUFM
>>56627480>posts a women even more autistic than Aqua
>>56626890>>56626915>>56626987>>56627057>>56627104>>56627162>>56627212I have yet to see a proper rebuttal to this that isn't "fuck the Chinese, I'm either racist or someone who's actually so dumb that I think Taiwan is actually a real country and not a province"It's objectively true that Cover fucked over Aqua's career to close ranks behind an ungrateful bitch who just stabbed Hololive in the back later. Aqua could have been a megastar. But Yagoo wasn't even thinking about how the fans would suffer after his decision, or the talents. Imagine firing an entire branch, taking away their livelihoods, just to massage the ego of a single woman who stupidly refused to apologize after she stepped into a delicate geopolitical situation. It's pure office politics and I have no idea how so many Holofans got brainwashed into thinking it was a good thing, especially when EN fans rightfully complain when EN girls talk about politics Yes, I am still seething. Fuck Cover and fuck Coco. Fuck Fubuki too for good measure, brownnosing corpo bootlicking snake.
>>56623214>>56627451
>>56627212everything about these bugs do aged like milk, just like nijisisters posts
>>56627485They are being done to piss off the fucking dwarf that takes care of the tally>>56627513
>>56627319Lui BD routine separate upload it's on the way for half mil after airlifting the VOD views of the live, this is obviously content that many wish to see from the girls more and more. i won't make the parallel with plave but well the extremes are so similar in this hobby
>>56627395>The million dollar question for them is how to construct that "loving, passionate audience" for themselves without becoming yet another "holo lite" company?Here is the thing, for all the grief Vox got>deservedly, for being pretty much an unscrupulous virtual gigolohis audience (chinese or abroad) had TRUE LOVE, true gachikoi love for him.That, incidentally, is the most recent rant of the sisters that made to the catalog>he stopped giving that massive love back, so they want outIt is not even hard to build a community like that>listen to your audience wishes>interact with them>prop up the best among them by using their fanart, complimenting their efforts, liking their works on social media >NOT APPLYING COLLECTIVE PUNISHMENT out of "one guy" retardationit's not hard to build a community and it doesn't need to be "Holo-lite"
>>56627528>>56623214
>>56627522delicious seethe
Why is Holotori doing so well on the debuff main channel?
>>56627522>acting like Aqua isn't still a mega-starThis is the rebuttal. Aqua did fine.
>>56627330Kneel worthy behaviour desu
>>56627522*cums on you*
>>56627380Okay, another NijiCN "graduation" was just scheduled to be revealed next month, expect one of their top females this time.
>>56627522>chinkseetherare these days
>>56627580>>56623214
>>56627522Bat soup stained hands typed this.
>>56627612Make a catchy meme song with a catchy meme short. Everything else seems more forced like Kiaras early attempts to make a tiktok trend. This just seems more natural and more well done.
>>56627248I forgot about that splash party concert. I figured they would have recorded it already.
https://twitter.com/Holo_Data/status/1693533898012324264
>>56626959It wasn't Aqua, it was fucking Roboco. Aqua only had like 4 or 5 frames in the entirety of November and December 2021 and none of them were on Rushia timeslot. That's why people just came to the conclusion that she's fucking mental.
>>56627648>>56623214
>>56627389>Aqua>Mumei>Nene>Roboco>IRyS>MelAnd the least intelligent of them all, borderline on the spectrum:>Iroha
>>56627522Weak larp/falseflag anon.
>>56627395No one streamer can do it alone, they need to find some way to move the audience to the rest of the organization. The other streamers need to figure out the best way to ride in their anchor talent's wake. In doing so the brand of the company becomes apparent and defined.
>>56625686wow that's racist
>>56627522>It's objectively true that Cover fucked over Aqua's careerAnon, Aqua got her sololive in 2021, Red Bull ambassadorship and countless sponsorships along with (on par with Miko, Rushia and the other leaks) moving 1M USD in merch every big event.People posted the money that the girls made on bilibili donations back then, fucking HoloID on streamlabs make more than that today.I'll be 100% transparent here: I, since her debut, ALWAYS loathed Coco crass humor, penchant for unityfaggotry and when she picked a fight with management for the right to collab with fucking Projeky Melody I almost became an anti.But the best thing she has ever done was that outro in her return stream>and if you don't like it, go fuck yourselfor something to the effect, in a message directed to the chinese that were giving her grief.
>>56627522wheeew. This seethe is delicious.
>>56627687KOYORIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
>>56627687>5 fuwamoco>8 biboo>10 gura
>>56627406I remember the Zhangs hiding death threats in fanarts, making porn deepfakes, and using a Coco cutout as target practice in a shooting range.
>>56627754>describe someone asian as "asian">omg racist
>>56627702>>56623214
>>56627212jej
>>56627330Scrolling through her likes is kinda funny
>>56627388No, people easily doubt the 8x+ ratio. Most people who haven't even tried think 2x is reasonable and 3x is someone being lazy.>sauce?Exact same job, from multiple clients thinking "we just got the dictation" meant we would be done within 2 hours, and the reason why I learned what the 8x+ ratio was in the first place.
>>56627447Funny how the merch where vtubers make the most money idol takes the biggest chunk lol and they make people praise them for it
>>56627693>Rushia was a Roboco bully>got firedAnyone who targets Roboco fucking dies...
>>56627756That last message was too much. It really whipped them into a frenzy. It was an "own the haters moment" and guaranteed they would declare forever war.They post that outro everywhere.
>>56627800lel
>>56627687THEY ARE
>>56627453To be fair she nailed the 'nigga~' so damn well everyone liked it.
>>56623214>>56627794
>>56627715Hey, come on, Iroha isn't THAT stupid
>>56621468>Vshojo is 50/50 or 90/10 depending on who you believe>Hololive is estimated 50% and 50/50-60/40 for the others>Niji is 50/50 for everything except standard merch (2%) and sponsorship but sponsors are still more than merch>Pixel link is said to be 25% from schizo anons with a NDA>Eien is has numbers all over the place but never less than 30%>Sony cuts are hard to say but people rarely quit in spite of low numbers and they get great music support >Kawaii is around 50% but possibly lower for the othersNone of these companies match all 6 at most reaching 1-2. Now in actuality Hololive is 30-40% same with all of those that use yt revenue they drop by 15-20% except Pixel link because that 25% already accounts for the cut, maybe EIEN as well so 1 of these being right is the only one possible. It doesn’t mention the cuts from yt/stream elements fees, anons pointed out paying for streaming expenses yourself knocks thousands off your taxes but these tax breaks now go to Idol, and as stated earlier the industry average is a lie so the Idol side is most likely also a lie. It even has a footnote saying yes we’re lying but prove it.
>>56623957Nina got fucking 50k for her graduation. When was the last time Gura broke 50k on karaoke?
>>56624154Love to see a field that is actually dominated by women for once slowly getting co-opted by men. You can't write this shit up even if you tried.
>>56627522spoken like a true zhang, its all holo fault, never the subhuman bug that spam pictures of dead rabbits to pekora
>>56627687Is 10 hours mgs stream included in this data or not?
>>56627804Wut, WTF? Anyone doubting NEVER EVER attempted to transcribe a text from audio, let alone transcribe AND translate>which in many cases means "translate AND localize" because for a lot of content there is no direct translation and it need to be adapted to the intended audience
>>56623214>>56627848
>>56627522I won't read that but please BAU BAU yourself
>>56623995Didn’t Mayuzumi have like 3?
>>56627756>>56627824>Owning the haters is okay when it's against the Chinese>But when Mori does it it's a sinI hate Holofags so much, zero consistency
>>56627788Never forgive. Never forget.
>>56627522Aqua herself "rebuts" this perfectly fine chang-kun.Also you might wanna look up "friend" in the English dictionary since I don't think that concept exists in your language.
>>56627878It's about equality, anon.
>>56627756>bilibili donation statsI was a big proto-numberfag at the time for that, I still have the stats for that (forget if I put them together or took them from somewhere else, though)
>>56627915>>56623214
>>56627687>Gura being in the top ten>has streamed more hours than Korone and is on par with PekoraGo, sharky, go
>>56627756
>>56627640
>>56627829Very nice
>>56627933Mori haters are still "people" by a loose definition
>>56627330how cute
>>56623211Using your money to pay for things you can do yourself pocketing the difference and making you say thank you. So the jews invented vtuber taxes without a tax return
>>56627878It's only ok when said women don't pander to men, chud
>>56627900only counted until 24 jst (8 hours). even if they count for 10 hours, still not enough to catch koyori
>>56627960Mio...
>>56627907Pretty much, I've personally transcribed much shorter excerpts to similar ratios, but it keeps fucking happening at my job and I keep having to play middleman for this retardation.
>>56627818But merch costs money to produce.
>>56627687>1 Koyori>5 Koyori forma de gemelaI KNEEL TO DOG SUPREMACY
>>56627960I also remember that there was a big deal made back then about how EN's first two months in the Vtubing world literally made more money than the entirely of Hololive's B2 earnings put together for that whole year.
>>56623211didn't a rinfag told that she had to pay for her cover because all the money went toward gen2 debuts?
>>56627824Again, this is coming from someone that NEVER liked Coco in the first place.That was the exact correct message. There is no appeasing, no middle ground, in Bush's parlance>no negotiating with terroristsCoco did nothing wrong. Haachama did nothing wrong, They didn't even call Taiwan a country, Haachama merely read the breakdown of the audience directly from Youtube's analytics.Anyone taking exception with that was whipped in a frenesy, as you said, but not by the girls but by peope that wanted a scalp for their collection.Joke is on them, Cover played that to perfection>didn't capitulate>didn't allow the chinese branch to capitulate>when the chinese branch tried for a mutiny Cover just field executed them in cold blood EXACTLY how things should be done There are some things when there is no middle ground. Cover could have apologized, kowtow'd and kept the Chinese market (at the likely expense of their kaigai one) or they could have done what they did but there was no "thin line" they could walk over
>>56627972God, I still miss this particular bitch, not that one one.
>Larp as a bug>Get free (you)sIt is that easy.
>>56627389Cry about it Cleetus Mumei is dumber than 2 rocks
>>56627561But that type of vibe already precludes some level of "wholesomeness" in the stream.Never picking a fight with anyone, never dipping into any controversy, never randomly shitting on comments just for the fun of it etc. etc.You're halfway there to being an "idol" at that point, your content gets severely limited.Has any eceleb ever managed to cultivate a "passionate" audience that's not even close to "idol" type content?
>>56628078Honestly, people here talk about "MERCH SALES BEING KING" and all that, but don't they realize that it's fucking retarded to pretend that merch is good for a company at all? When a company makes merch, they're taking a pretty steep loss.
>>56627933See >>56628107, it was no "owning the haters", it was sending a clear message to bilibili and HoloCN management that Cover would not be forced by their underling or commercial partners into a situation they would rather avoid.
>>56627972Pity that she followed her own advice.
>>56628107I'm not saying Coco was wrong, but the consequences were real. They used that image as a rallying cry.
>>56628128>"Mommy mommy look at all the yous I farmed by pretending to be a retard."
>>56628153Mumei is autistic, not retarded. Don't use her to post retarded things. Every major franchise makes most of it's money from merch.
>>56628193>equating Zhangs to retardsbased
>>56627888Pekora is a bully who has done and seen worse, who cares about some stupid rabbits?
>>56628128I bet most of them are indochad posters
>>56628128eh instructing the newfags about the horrors of the past is also useful to not forget and not forgive
>>56628212Anonchama... your shitposting identification reps
>>56627731Huh, now that I think about it...EN VTubing inherently starts off with the disadvantage that most of your colleagues are spread around the world and you can never visit them and hang out...We saw this in effect during the early days of Myth and even Council, and it's not until the world opened up and they started to travel to each other more that the branch as a whole got a lot closer to each other.How does any EN chuuba company overcome this problem? Even now I don't think I've heard about any "collab group" combos from any of these smaller corpos that result in fun streams.
>>56627967
>>56628234what kind of indog is awake at this time
>>56628212But it's true. Merch fucking kills companies.>you only get a certain amount of revenue in a batch from making merch>but every new unit of merch you make incurs costsBecause of diminishing returns, every single time you sell a new unit of merch, you make less money. Eventually, you hit the crossing point and start to LOSE money by making more merch.And considering how popular the Holos are, they sell a LOT of merch. I have to imagine it really is a big cost for them to produce it... Big money sink, all things considered, no?
>>56627788and they still act like holo is the aggressor need to apologize when they are the crying beggar lmaoif holo go back to china those chink definitely want FBK gone, its just not happening, they burned too many bridges harassing not only coco
>>56628277The ones that waste their time shitposting here
>>56628253>How does any EN chuuba company overcome this problem?Regional Vtuber circles.Make HoloNew England, HoloMidWest, HoloCalifornia, HoloSouth, HoloVegas, etc
>>56628153I like the girls, and I want the girls to get rich. Why should I care if the company is getting little to no profit from it? They already get enough of it from shills and collab with other companies.
Why the actual fuck are 3 NA holos+ Kiara playing BG 3 in...late JP hours
>>56628306wow is this the new version of the >if the concert is sold out, they're in a loss!
>>56628306Stick hololive friends and dino gura on walmart and target sales in the US and they'll sell like hotcakes.
>>56628354seems like a risky maneuver... the type that companies might risk if they didn't have the "idol" method already in front of them for perceived ez money, even with a cap...
>>56628186This. Coco only fuelled the zhang menace even more by giving them attention. Her whole "be positive" schtick didn't help either. But honestly, fuck em. watching hololive during those months was super depressing and has conditioned me into not wanting to open the chat bar
>>56627960wow just where the fuck does their confidence even come from? the bugmen always acts like they own hololive
>>56625582You can’t clip shorts or members porn
>>56627447I'd rather have 50% of $10k that 60% of $1k. I think he's trying to be the slum lord but poaching low tier females. Maybe he can get a NijiEN girl.PS: why are they called idol when none of them want to be idols and idol has taken no steps towards doing idol stuff.
>>56628408Please understand they're experimenting to find the lowest possible numbers debut content can reach, they need to find the floor before making projections
>>56628306>makes a ton of merch>sells out concertsCover keeps bleeding money
Another Asmongold Holocure shilling videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nu7NdKI0aQA
>>56628408for the sake of numbers
>>56628451I love it when /jp/ pretends that those were the good times
>>56628306Damn, Gura must be ready to graduate considering her Dino figurine broke sales records... must've cost her a bunch of money.
>>56628253>EN VTubing inherently starts off with the disadvantage that most of your colleagues are spread around the world and you can never visit them and hang out...Ah, come on! The whole concept of "streamer houses" come exactly from western streaming culture, mostly from the fact that moving to California / NYC if you want to grow big in the entertainment industry is almost mandatory for the traditional media and the nascent streaming industry.There is ZERO preventing a company (not Cover, they don't roll that way, some other company) from putting an audition EXCLUSIVELY for people living in the LA/SF metro areas, or in New England, on even in Texas or Florida.
>>56628408Nigga do you know how long the game isThey’re gonna be playing that game for like 8 hours straight
>>56627212No way, this coincidence is too funny to be true.
Holodex is working now
>>56628509holodex my beloved
>>56628452Honestly they they fail so dramatically, with so much grandeur, It's like watching a Shiori karaoke but not cute.
>>56628471>3rd HoloCure videoAre those doing good or does he genuinely likes the gameOr is he trying to establish a business collab between Holo and Mythic
>>56628426>he wants them to sell like Hotcakes and bankrupt Gura
Any interesting stream today other than Bijou holocure?
>>56625502Stagnation is because council was awful though
>>56628556His first two exploded on his main channel
>>56627800KEK
>>56628509GOD FUCKING DAMNITI WAS SO EXCITED TO SEE WHAT BIBOO'S NUMBERS WOULD BE WITHOUT THE HOLODEX EMBED DEBUFF
>>56628493>>56628493/jp/ got raided by /pol/. I remember an indonesian flag having constant generals redirecting to the holo threads
>>56627800Needs a bit more polish, but solid template*clap clap* NEXT MEME!
>>56628503Right, but as your examples show, the few attempts at such "houses" kinda broke down.It's similar to how Coco tried to make "Holohouse" work for the longest time, forgetting that several members love their privacy, and having other holos nearby could be an actual issue for them (even though they love each other).But just moving people in the same city might be an idea though, it hasn't been tried yet, but idk what company would take that risk.I think it'd have to come from talents. Even Hololive started off from a high schooler, her best friend and selling a dream to a VR company guy.A group of girls that are good friends with each other will have to sell the idea of a chuuba group to some company in order to make such a thing work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJHtDcJy4LkFuwawa loves us...
>>56627522Gutter oil-covered brain spouted this nonsense.
>>56628509i just realized how much i depend on that site, can`t live without it
Is this waiting room bigger than her last stream of this game?
>>56628306>instead of Fixed Costs/Per-Unit Costs and Per-unit Revenue>this dude is saying "Fixed Revenue and Per-Unit Costs only"You fucking retards are too strong
>>56628509Uh oh, it's missing streams
>>56628724That reeks of raided waiting room.
>>56628030Shiori had to kneel to the dark empire, swallow her pride, and join their ranks. Now she has more devoted fans in 3 weeks than she got in 5 years.
>>56628724Almost double
>>56628674>I guess there are numbers in mathToo bad most of the people posting here don't know math
>>56628556He's taking advantage of a trendy "new" game but also doing market research to figure out why Hololive succeeds and the bottom of the barrel vtubers that Mythic signed don't.
>>56628787Smart man, if true
>>56628773Better start fresh if they give you the golden ticket.
>>56627687>Three ENs in the top 10>One in the top 5What is this world?
Who will win?
>>56628667>, the few attempts at such "houses" kinda broke down.>It's similar to how Coco tried to make "Holohouse" work for the longest time,Nah, I'm using "streamer houses" just as a rhetorical device, I loathe the concept for the reasons you put forward>your coworker is a bitch and you have to spend your free time with her too? Fuck that!My point is that all of the advantages of the HoloJP girls living in Tokyo area can easily be replicated by other companies or even Holo themselves merely by geo fencing the auditions>must live in such and such geo area
>>56628787>Mythichaven't heard anything from them recently
>>56628306>every single time you sell a new unit of merch, you make less moneyIt's actually the opposite. Selling a certain amount breaks even and everything after that is gravy as long as the scale fits your production capacity. Look up marginal costs since it is one of the most fundamental things in product development.
>>56628828ahh one of those over x10 moment, love it
>>56628787I've been following some Holocure stuff. It's interesting, a lot of the people seeing it don't seem to realize the insane fact that every character is a real streamer that you can watch.
>reading up the threadWTF IS EVEN THIS SHIT? People having educated and polite arguments about decent subjects?>BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!Where are my timeloops?!?!?
>>56628649No not really, I think 2023 Hololive is much better than late 2020 to pre-IRyS Hololive. I almost quit watching it because the amount of drama was too much for me but by November of that year things calmed down substantially for Hololive.
>>56628509Ononoonononono
>>56628810Is hololive a golden ticket? She's gonna have to do idol shit. Sure she gets money and fame but that's about it.
>>56628879Euro hours, bro, sorry, we only get good threads in these times
>>56628556From quick check nothing under 1m views isn't noteworthy for his channel and even then it needs 2m to be of particular note, nothing under 700k is worth of attention
>>56628828
>>56628828RASPBERRY KING! TAKE THE GOLD! THE HOLOSTARS NEED YOU!>he was on a break?!?!?
>>56628892>idol shitthat's the good part
>>56628879All the shitposters were a Chinese psyop. Now that B2 bent the knee and wants Hololive back they've all disappeared.
>>56628828ANOTHER BARBENHEIMER?
>>56628884The only thing you can attack 2023 Hololive for its its stagnating to declining numbers for the main branch. Other than that, no real complaints because EN is looking to be the most profitable asset Hololive has with Advent's debut and Gura's resurgence + Mumei's rise to top status.
>>56628938Then why did Gundou leave?
>>56628953DID SOMEONE JUST SAY BARBENHEIMER???https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/15x8mu1/the_hololive_version_of_barbenheimer/
>>56628835at the same time that also precludes you from finding more talented people, since not all the people in a single city would -> know about vtubers> even want to become one> have streaming/content creation experience> have some or the other talentIt could be resolved by requiring everyone move to a single city before debut, but that would also restrict future gens to that city alone, meaning missed out talents from other parts of the world.It's a bit of a delicate balance, and idk if the chuuba industry has enough potential recruits to make "city-specific" groups a thing.
>>56628956Anon, the main branch is averaging above 11k. For reference, that's ahead of even the peak when Coco graduated.What the fuck are you even talking about?
>>56628828I'm pretty sure Shiori's current waiting room 5 1/2 hours away is going to be more than Axel's non raided viewership for his stream
>>56628967because niji's version of idol is shit, simple as
>>56625852Honestly if you're a holo tribalist, homobegging these small corpos is a sure-fire way to fucking stunt their growth, if not kill them outright. Fortunately, our regular homobeggars are already doing it on their own volition, FOR FREE
>>56628890I doubt people even noticed that he was away with the whole Vesper and Magni rrats
>>56628993Star fans fucking suck, 3 times the same meme. are this creatively bankrupt?
>>56628892Doing idol shit isn't even that hard, if Noel can do it anyone can.
>>56628452Bugs have this terminal illness of being entitled to everything just because their population is so big that outsiders can't resist their monopoly money or mess with them. Now that the economy is a mess, the population is shrinking and Xi's paranoia is at its peak, they can't do it anymore.
>>56628787>the bottom of the barrel vtubers that Mythic signed don't.Box pushing? I wonder when lives will become commonplace in the west now that everyone sees the power. CtW may have not had much of an immediate impact but maybe it will resonate.
>>56629014it's the nigga that try to start nijiJP>holoJP holoEN>nijiEN, get ready for a Gura image with some blatant timeloop
>>56629058Six weeks now BTW
>>56629049I wish our homos were actually competent, they would be doingthis shit by themselves then instead of attacking hololive
>>56629062>3 times the same memeWell yeah, there's only a few dozen stars fans.
>>56629003>that also precludes you from finding more talented peopleMate, even HoloJP doesn't give a fuck about the super talented chick that lives in (let's say) Saga prefectureif she can't move to Tokyo or a closer prefecture she'll 100% get passed for not being fit for what Hololive needs>a girl that can show up at the studio and perform
>>56629063It wouldn't shock me if Noel left over having to do too much of it. She doesn't need hololive and is plenty wealthy.
>>56628030Mind you all of advent probably would’ve had something to varying degrees if they were gone like Shiori. And this is for a family vacation she wasn’t enthused about now compare the welcome responses to Sana returning after being depressed over her dead dog
>>56629116oh hi suischizo
>>56628873>a lot of the people seeing it don't seem to realize the insane fact that every character is a real streamerACKSHUALLY They are Anime characters from the hit Youtube short Anime, holo graffiti.
>Hololive let that fucking slut in with their great hireWhy did the fuck that up and bring them both in, clearly we all know it would've been better if the let the good one in only
>>56628993>1k upvotes>17 commentsvery natural, very organic
>>56627854She somehow gets lost walking along a road, with GPS.
>>56629116oh look it's another>*insert talent name* already outgrows hololive, she's going to graduate soon
>>56629116The same Noel that that's considering stopping knightly duties because hololive money is so good? That Noel?
>>56629108Iroha...
>>56629159That's even worse than Gura, holy shit
>>56629157I wonder if they realize they're just making themselves look worse and worse.
>>56629150Un un.
>>56629116>if Noel left over having to do too much of it.kek, you certainly has ZERO knowledge about what keeps Noel going.She's the girl that said she would BEG ON HANDS AND KNEES to be allowed to remain on Hololive if she was ever asked to leave and she doesn't even do it for the money
>>56629067They've also been fed a steady stream of propaganda about them being the center of the world. This is the reason they've periodically gotten btfo by external enemies throughout their history, they're too arrogant to admit the threat until it's too late.
>>56629170She'd quit hololive if they told her to stop. Hololive doesn't mean much to her. She's one of the few holos that could be terminated tomorrow and not have a meltdown.
>>56628993Disgusting. They're so desperate.
>>56628993fun fact, one comment was actually removed by a moderator which means the the reports about the OP being against their content stealing rule has also been seen yet the mod did not delete the post
>>56627212>>56627800kek
>>56629108Anon, HoloJP recruited several folks that lived in the boonies. Aqua, Iroha, Okayu etc. being among them.They never forced them into Tokyo though, just gave that incentive that you'd get more studio jobs if you lived nearby. And you could always commute in (which was a lot more inconvenient and a waste of a lot of time but the option was there).And hell, thanks to Japan's public transport system you can get to anywhere in the country within 24 hours at a rather cheap price.How would you extend that system to the entire world, while still being able to recruit talents from not just other cities, but other COUNTRIES !?
>>56629088This. I'd tolerate them more if they could be like our EN Roberu/Astel, grooming non-holos for Yagoo's benefit
>>56627687Looks like another Pekora win for the month
>>56629136Don't compare actual schizo ramblings about Noel to genuine concerns about Suisei leaving Hololive. Even Hoshiyomi have noticed how Suisei seems to be moving outside the Holobox.
fucking yuros
>>56629143holoCure newbies to hologura pipeline needs to be real thing. Someone should recommend Asmon into binging all the episodes
>>56629177You're missing the point. Japan public transit system makes it possible for even a chick in the boonies to be in Tokyo in 4 hours tops, stay the night and go back home the next day.Actually Choco does it for tun, sometimes she craves regional food so she takes the shinkasen (at 90 bucks a pop per leg), go to some region, eats the local food and go back home the same day.In the United States that wouldn't be possible. There is no way a company wanting to have girls close by to each other and to the studio would hire a couple of girls in the east coast and another couple of girls in the west coast plus one more in Texas and another in Florida and a couple more in Vancouver.
>56629230don't bother to reply, is bait
>>56629306>HolograBut it fucking sucks
>>56629281This, if you ask their split they'd tell you about them. I do not recommend it since that'd be calling for a raid which is a violation of the site's rules.
>>56629248See >>56629330
>>56629337shit taste
>>56628505Don't be delusional
>>56629283and these fucks have the gall to tell off fans of female chuubas
>>56627900Probably not, it's up to August 20. Only included her 1st stream
>>56629337Kys retard
>>566281072 things arguing from a hypothetical point you can’t prove makes you a schizo. Not knowing Coco and Haachama were suspended before disbanding Holocn makes you a newfag and a retard. To double down on the retard point the word is frenzy*
>>56629283based lgbt gatekeeping m*les from the hobby through sexually harassment.
>>56627878And you’re considered an incel for pointing that out. I get it, the anime community (and by extension vtuber fans) is predominantly conservative and would rather watch male streamers. But cooping ‘incel’ and being gaslit by seething male streamers who want to shove their way into a predominantly female-centric niche is super gross.
>>56629283It's pretty much information everyone already knows. A straight dude trying to be a vtuber is going to have a hard time with all the fags coming at him. Better to just do something else or do something to filter them entirely.
Why did YouTube remove playlists and subscriptions?
>>56629283Dont become a glorified e-escort if you cant handle it fucker
>>56629337>Dumb anon lacks tasteKeK What a retard
>>56629482normal on my end. Is it past midnight where you are?
>>56628879I've been saying this all the time, in EU hours (You) either get the worst schizos or the most normal civilized thread (by /#/'s standard), there's no in between.
>>56629516No, it's 4:49 PM
>>56629196Looks like the mod actually came by to delete a comment but left up the blatent buzzword spouting shitstirrer in the next message. Don't think they care anymore.
>>56629482hit the 3 bar icon, you sure you didn't just hide them?
>>56629543They haven't even updated the reddit to include Advent on the sidebar. They've absolutely given up.
>>56629306It would make more sense if there was hologra linked in community hub or something.
>>56629553Tried it. Still not showing.
>>56629587did you try an incognito tab?
>>56629574>no tempoop eitherT-Chan got taken behind the shed didn't it?
>>56629283Look at how Uki sexually harasses every male in nijien and it makes sense
>>56629543Mods gave up after the tempoop disaster
>>56629439>Not knowing Coco and Haachama were suspendedRetard, I'm a 2018 era Haaton, how the fuck would I not know about their suspensions.It was misguided as fuck, a very japanese attempt to "force humility" by having people without any fault to apologize.it obviously didn't work because the zhangs didn't want anything to do with Haachama, they merely wanted to collect the American scalp
>deletedhomobeggars don't want their safe-haven disturbed
>>56629617Are you telling me it will only work on incognito? I really want the left sidebar back. It was fine this morning.
>>56629697delete caches or get better internet
>>56629283Euros being fags explains why the EU timeslot is so dead for female vtubers but males can excel there
>>56629283>Streams on Twitch>Complains that her fanbase is full of trannies, whores and groomers.
>>56629697no, I'm trying to ascertain if it's a you issue. if it works in incognito something is preventing the page from loading property. Delete cache, then cookies from YT if cache doesn't do it
>>56629482>>56629697I think it's on your end, I can see mine clearly.
WELLLLLLLLLLL NUMBERFAGS?!?!??!>HOW MUCH WOULD BE A FAR RATE FOR RENTING MOCO BELLYBUTTON / HOUR?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3eJJ0FVou8
>>56629757It's a straight guy complaining about fags
>>56627687without biboo and fuwamoco advent would've been council part 2
>>56629230Are you talking about the same woman who said she would naked dogeza for yagoo to not get booted out of Hololive?
>>56629789For other people: 5 Gorillion per hourFor me: Rent Control at 5 USD an hour
>>56629791Shiori = HaachamaNerissa = (no homo) Suisei
>>56629820Do you per chance has jewish blood in your veins?
>>56629725>>56629780>>56629781Yeah it was a cache issue. I was worried it was Adblock-related. Thanks for the help. Enjoy the streams tonight.
>>56629869No, but I have Italian-American blood, so basically the same
>>56629330>>56629376So what that essentially means is that city based chuuba companies just don't work in US...And obviously not the EU either, considering the market...So... EN VTubing is doomed to just be HoloEN clones for eternity?
>>56629283Well, now you know why "brotubers" aren't working as vtubers
>>56628306I hate when retards make good points that they can’t explain. You are correct it’s why new businesses and people who try to sell things from home start off slightly profitable but fail soon after. People that aren’t retarded mark up their products enough that selling half is enough to break even. Cover and Anycolor most likely do 100% mark up as well as being made to order so they don’t overstock it. Other vtuber corpos or at least the ones that aren’t retarded follow that model or do limited stock that can be purchased for most of the year also at a higher mark up. So again your statement is correct if you don’t know what you’re doing which a lot of indies have learned recently.>>56628373Because if cover goes belly up the money that should belong to them would go towards plugging the holes. But before all that you’re just a retard
>>56629697YouTube has account unique features. I have 6 alt accounts and all six have different features for whatever fucking reason. One can translate JP comments. Some have autoplay function. Some can sort by old. etc.
>>56629974they totally work, as long as they are womenjust look at Fauna and Kaela
>>56629283once again proving that males do not belong anywhere near VTubing and should stick to fleshtubing if they like streaming.
>>56629943>city based chuubaMate, just make it area based! Here>pic relatedmight be the size of Japan, not even kidding
>>56629943EU would be good for the infrastructures upkeep and means of travel for the chuubas to meet up the whole continent is connected with high speed rail on the lines of shinkansen, the issues are ESL accents and they have to target burger hours to actually have audience.
>>56629283That explains /mans/
>>56629789I'll pay whatever it costs and then cream all over it
>>56630017I miss Fauna
>>56630071yeah me too anon
Why are holoclippers so segregated in the Algorithm? Finding worthwhile clips these days is too far in-between. I literally have to use the search bar to find good clips. YouTube keeps recommending me 3 view clips for some reason.
>>56629943No, you'd need to go oldschool and have a requirement that the people you hire need to relocate to wherever your company is. Not exactly rare, this was pretty much the norm before remote work existed.
>>56629283Between the NijiEN/StarsEN males bitching about homoerotic fanart of themselves on twitter and faggots like this. Male vtubers aren’t as ‘lgbt friendly’ as people think they are.
>>56630048Sure, but size doesn't exactly mean the same population.Restricting themselves to that area alone will reduce your access to quality talents across the rest of the world... but would the girls you recruit even bother visiting each other even across this relatively small distance for offcollabs and stuff?Or would they be more interested in just sticking to their own thing with the occasional discord collab?Holos only grew so close with each other thanks to having several external pressures forcing them to circle the wagons... would any chuuba company be able to build such a "Box" if it was lacking anyone else to push against?
>>56630119Wut? You're not clicking enough "not interested", "do not recommend channel" and not erasing unwanted videos from your history then
>>56630119I think clips in general are being pushed out to be replaced with shorts.
>>56630119Skill issue, I subbed to dedicated clip channel of my oshiThere are way to manipulate the algorithm to your liking, it just take times
>>56630165>Sure, but size doesn't exactly mean the same population.Anon, that geographic area has about 20M people living in it. That's about the same as Tokyo and surrounding prefectures
>>56630129The big advantage of the chuuba industry is that they don't HAVE to do that though, isn't it?For such a big shift in policy, the company better be offering something good.And once again the only paths a new chuuba company can look to follow are that of Hololive or VShojo.And if they're into 3D shit, then concerts and idolshit is what makes sense... but then they encounter the problem of just becoming Holo-lite like every other small corpo...
>>56630119vtuber being put in it's own niche+anti rabbit hole algo measures took for alt-right/coff+anti kpop reps cull, it's alot of shit stacked against natural growth, sometimes the algo sperg and instead of 2-3 views wraps around to 2-3yr old content with millions of views trying to get you to click another video
>>56630017Fauna is not brotuber she's femenine as fuck
>>56629646holy shit you just opened my eyes
Is YouTube's algo IP bound even on the same account?
>>56630279>The big advantage of the chuuba industry is that they don't HAVE to do that though, isn't it?That's true for most companies, but for Cover at very least you need to be able to drop by the studio some three times a year>bday>anniversary>holofes
>>56630119you need to prune your algorithm anonalso try watching some JP clips, they sometimes give good stuff.>>56630278ok but that doesn't take away from the rest of my points.
>>56630283Is this why Nijisanji is favored by the algo? Viewerbase full of tourist who fucked off to different places after they done watching events?
>>56630119Just either tell youtube you're not interested in those channels or get an add-on that blocks youtube channels.
>>56630301Even on different accounts. Sometimes I get recommends for stuff clearly meant for my wife even if we don't share anything other than the wifi IP >>56630323>also try watching some JP clips, they sometimes give good stuff.I 100% recommend that too
>>56630327Not sure anon, somehow they are just favored by the portuguese
>>56630295Which is why she's amazing
it's a shame 95% of this board wasn't here during the time of the chinkout between aqua fubuki and coco
>>56629804You’re biting bait anon but sometimes it’s good to inform newfags. The retarded shit I’ve seen spread as fact all over the catalog because people don’t correct schizos is insane
Why can't China send spies that don't talk like they're bots?
>>56630327niji has the rainbow advantage to get handpicked for trending but yeah that's one of the fundamentals of the reps, chaining your target video with unrelated viral content to push and broaden it's relevance
>>56629997The fuck are you even talking about? The talents pay for their custom merch themselves, and Cover gets some cut out of the sales because they're using Cover's IP which is the character. If Cover decided to take the majority of it even when the talents were the one paying it forward that's what you call a fucking black company, and thankfully Cover is not one of it.
This Marine clip of her outdoor performance is amusing as fuckhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQNS9TJRSf0>imagine being blasted at full volume in the actual meatspace where your parents can actually see you!
>>56630397It's a shame you still believe 3 year old debunked rrats