/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>5661534
>she

>>5661581
has

>>5661587
fucking

I'm sure this is going to be a great thread

>>5661626
penis

what's happened? please give me an unbiased account free of rrats

I watched Mokka's Umineko stream but nothing else has caught my attention

>>5661651
breath

>>5661663
accidentally let it slip that she's making a human suit, buffalo bill style

>>5661663
>>5661633
Well this is the last Mocca thread I'm ever bother making again. Havent seen anything on here for a long time so I dunno thought there should be something now that she's basically a vtweeter now
https://twitter.com/moccaliebeskind/status/1408693234826633216
Also locking replies on every tweet and nonstop tweeting about muh depression and muh trans rights
LOST IT is exaggerating but this is not what I started following him for at all

>>5661722
he sounds like he needs some dick in his life

>>5661722
that's rough. hope they find some stability and happiness in their life soon. pretty messed up upbringing

>>5661722
Then move on.

>>5661722
>Well this is the last Mocca thread I'm ever bother making again.
I don't know why you would make a thread in the middle of his menhera meltdown. It's going to be filled with shitposters and antis.

>>5661873
When else would I make one, when he's livestreaming video games? Oh wait

>>5661873
Can only assume it's an anti himself. If you still make threads even though Mocca made it very clear he doesn't want to have an increased profile and is largely stepping away from vtubing, you're just trying to rile up drama.

>>5661905
He said he was going back to streaming on the 26th and literally within the last few hours said he's going back on that. We can have ONE thread, calm the fuck down schizo

>>5661722
>https://twitter.com/moccaliebeskind/status/1408693234826633216

what a loser. typical girl whining

>>5661905
>made it very clear he doesn't want to have an increased profile
>nooo don't give me attention

>>5661967
You are very confused about what Mocca wants.

Most likely an anti trying to cause a drama circus, good luck with that.

>>5662013
>You are very confused about what Mocca wants.
Not everyone has time to browse through weeks of tweets by someone who tweets ten times an hour 12 hours a day.

>>5661534
>someone whose entire perosna is "I am mentally ill" has a menhera meltdown
Whoa

>>5662013
t. Mocca Liebeskind
Someone like this is doomed to suffer by their own hand because of some warped expectations
I remember his character in VRchat, he'd show up and have a good interaction with people and then spiral into suffering for no reason even though he was effortlessly accepted by everyone.
I don't know what they're expecting to find through all of this but it certainly won't come through lying to himself.

Iam just a viewer, not moccas friend or therapy. But I guess that's what mocca wants just streaming for a circle of friends instead of strangers.

>>5662187
He said the same thing you're saying in his twitlonger, it's not like he isn't aware of it.

>>5661534
Never watched them but just read their pinned tweet. Seems perfectly reasonable. What more do you people want?

>>5662256
Nothing. They want to punch down on someone who can't be happy because they can also not be happy.

>>5661534
>>5661722
>>5661826
>she
it's a he.
this abomination is a tranny.

>>5662231
Has he tried therapy? Would help more than twitter and discord

>>I am not the worst person alive

After reading this, honestly I think she must be one of the worst people I have ever encountered (not personally) online. But interesting to know her longterm story now.

We call those people no future kids. However, she might actualyl be quite old already if she was active in the irc scene before. Kinda sad if you think about it.

>moving in with someone you met on 4chan
That's so idiotically impulsive I'm almost impressed they went through with it

>>5662323
How is he a bad person?

>>5662256
theres nothing thst crazy in that twitlonger, but I also wouldnt say vomitting out your life story for all your followers to read is very "reasonable" either

>>5662294
Don't really care if they're a he, she, it, whatever. Not relevant to being a vtuber and it makes no difference to me

>>5662323
how is he bad for being neglected? it's hard to recover from having no affection or holding as a child.

Mocca's probably grateful that people here are giving him more ammunition for pity-baiting.
Whether he'll be happier after a couple more years of this loop and not doing anything about the actual things that make him miserable is a different matter. Vtubing is distracting him from making the necessary changes to his life

>>5662232
I missed that, I always wondered if that personality type was inherent or learned and now it makes perfect sense.

>>5662496
Sharing why you're acting unhinged is not pity-baiting. I know this place lacks empathy but not everyone expressing sadness wants something. He is not asking for money or pity, he's asking for understanding.

Worried about the purpose of that note, is Mocca planning suicide?

>>5662697
would fit in with his character

>>5662697
It's possible.

>>5662697
flip a coin

SOMEBODY TELL ME ITS FUCKING GENDER

>>5662788
Fuck off.

>>5662697
That's the one thing mocca won't do. Despite all he wants to be alive.

>>5662822
All trannies do until they don't.

>>5662788
Male, was MtF and now back to just male.

>>5662527
How many more mental breakdown-reconciliation episodes do you reckon he needs before he has gathered enough understanding to get his shit in order?

>>5662843
None of that is confirmed by anything but speculation. The MtF rat is the closest to the truth but even that one's always been flimsy.

>>5661722
>basically a vtweeter now
Isn't saying "I'm going to stop tweeting regularly" the opposite of being a vtweeter? It's not like he doesn't still stream, he just doesn't announce it anymore.

>>5662788
Mocca alternates between beting genderless/femboy. The roommate is a mtf. It'sa blurry line cause there's a lot of self insert, but the character and streamer are different.

>>5662872
It's none of my or your business. Clearly needs therapy, so I hope he'll do it.

>>5662880
He literally used to have the male symbol in his bio

>tr*nny
Nothing of value was lost.

>>5662998
If you're talking about the vtuber character then it was genderless then femboy and now back to genderless/doesn't care about pronouns. Never once has Mocca said or even implied he's mtf.

>>5662256
The tweet was fine. The "lost it" bit is how she keeps making big announcements and immediately goes back on them barely a day later.

>i'm gonna stop tweeting except for stream announcements
>keeps tweeting anyway

>i'm gonna still retweet stuff but nothing else
>tweets about Lily, Mocca's inner groomer awakens

also,
>does everything possible to discourage engagement and new viewers
>gets sad when chat is too quiet

I wish Mocca luck with the music production and piano.

The outbursts are classic BPD, pushing people away and sabotaging relationships in order to be the one in control. Be the abandoner first so you don't become the abaondonee like you expect to be because you can't fathom the idea that people actually like you and that you are worth staying with.

>>5663221
>Mocca's inner groomer awakens
What is the point of saying things like this? Obviously they're just friends.

He has BPD though, yeah.

>>5662903
>>5662788
I think she finally settled on "I dont care any more I have no gender call me what you want"
Which should be enough for a vtuber, unless you're a doxxfag in which case fuck off

>>5663221
I see Mocca in Lily's chat like every stream, I wish they did more collabs before Mocca retired

>>5661772
No dude she hasn't taken hormone meds that's all

>>5663221
I'm more sympathetic to most of his stuff but yeah you're 100% right on the BPD behavior. Explains a lot.

>>5662872
I have seen another vtuber go through the same high energy-breakdown-reconciliation-repeat cycle. After every breakdown they figure out one piece of the puzzle that most of their audience already figured out completely on the first breakdown. However they're too fragile mentally to accept criticism and too proud to accept advice. So all you can do is support and hope they come out of the next crash-recovery loop a little better than before.

>>5663270
Because victims of abuse sadly often perpetuate the same abuse on others later in life because that's all they know.

>>5663435
Calling someone a groomer based on no evidence because of their mental health issues seems a bit harsh.

>>5663398
Which vtuber?

>>5663435
Lily is literally much older than Mocca. You seem to have trouble distinguishing between cartoon characters and reality.

>>5664298
What? How old is Lily, 40?

>>5663221
Fucking hell, anyone remember the Karaoke stream?
Mocca did a 2 hour stream where the audio and his singing were Desynced by a second or two making it pretty bad to watch, not a single person in chat ever pointed it out. After rewatching it he then went live and got mad at everyone because of it, redoing the entire karaoke again.

If Moccas chat wasn't so fucking terrified of him throwing a menhera episode at the slightly criticism then maybe someone would have had the balls to speak up. There again, his chat is full of "Yes men".

>>5664858
You're obsessed.

>>5664903
explain why nobody commented on it then during the whole karaoke?

>>5664980
I was there that day and I didn't notice and everyone that knows Mocca would know he'd prefer if you told him about technical difficulties. You're retarded and keep bringing up the same story for some reason.

>>5665084
Because it makes you angry

>>5665229
Epic. You're a great part of this board's culture.

>>5663398
>I have seen another vtuber go through the same high energy-breakdown-reconciliation-repeat cycle.
Meru?

So did we ever find out if it was a he or a she?

>>5665693
was/were

>>5665693
>>5662820

>>5665825
So a man then.

>>5665889
Literally no one gives a shit about it but tourist that will never watch him anyway. Shut the fuck up.

>>5665693
it's a delusional girl who wants to be a femboy. kinda tranny territory, which makes sense with all the psychological problems

Meanwhile Mocca is retweeting suicide girl art.

>>5661722
>tranny
>get depression
We will never know. Its a mistery

>>5662385
Why delete the post then?

Just accept the others being others.
Don't take the human relations seriously.

>>5664858
I remember that shit. It was pretty hard not to notice. Kinda felt bad for them until they got mad at chat and redid it.

>>5662901
>"I'm going to stop tweeting regularly"
If Mocca streamed for every time xhe tweeted that then he would still be streaming on a regular schedule

Germoids are autistic fucks who should have been wiped out. If it weren't for them the romans would have wiped out the jews. Meanwhile germoids give the jews israhell and a perpetual out whenever they pull shit.

>>5664858
I hate being that one guy in chat complaining about audio. Usually the streamer is very rude back and says "fuck u talkin bout i havent changed shit since me last stream" and makes me feel bad

Do you faggots realize he streams to like 40 to 50 people nowadays? You're spinning narratives and punching down on a literalwho who just wants to be happy. Kinda pathetic.

>>5666793
True, unless you know they are going to take the criticism/feedback well it's kinda hard to say it.

Man, vtubing is a brutal scene for people with mental health issues
A shame it seems to attract them by large majority

I want to give mocca a hug

>>5667003
Getting attention yet being realtively anonymous seems perfect at first glance for those with mental health issues, but as we have seen, it can lead to further issues down the road. Just like 4chan.

>>5666801
Fuck off back to twitter

>>5667003
>>5667077
It's supposed to be a good scene for all kinds of different people but the mix of a horrible fanbase that does not allow any divergence from what they like (Hololive) and the normie infected pink catgirl types have ruined indie vtubing.

>>5667169
The irony of you complaining about holofans “not allowing any divergence from what they like” in the same sentence as you unrelatedly shoehorn in complaining about nyanners/vshoujo is palpable.

>>5667357
The fact that you think I'm talking about Nyanners shows how little you know about the indie scene.

>>5667169
The fanbase does allow divergence, a lot of divergence or else all the anti-seiso foul mouthed vtubers wouldn't be so popular. The "fans force hololive standards" meme is a rrat from nonconformist chuubas who get mad when their niche of a niche of a niche or their political grandstanding or their vtweeting cancel campaigns don't attract an audience above single digits.

>>5667375
Tell me what other pink cat you were referring to then. Don’t play dumb

>>5667169
As utterly detestable as the Hololive fanbase on /vt/ are, most of them are tame as hell, and even the ones here do not give a shit about indie vtubers, only numbers, drama and delusional rrats.

>>5667462
>only numbers, drama and delusional rrats.
Thats the kind of people shitting up every Mocca thread though

>>5667462
Uh, this is quite literally a drama thread anon

>>5667510
>>5667479

Whilst this is true and I now realize the irony of it, my point was more about indie vtubing in general. Mocca does this to himself tbf.

>>5667547
Yeah, when someone is suffering openly and getting shat on for exhibiting obvious suffering and mental health problems it's best to blame the person suffering and not the people that shit on that person.

>>5667434
NTA but Normalfags/ironic weebs that decided to become pink catgirl vtubers are a dime a dozen. I don't like Nyanners, but I'll at least give her that she's been around long enough that she's not one of those.

>>5661534
This is what zero Dicks does to a bitch

>>5667591
Just because mental health issues are pitiable and deserve our sympathy doesn’t mean that they’re wholly out of the mentally unwell person’s hands. It’s a classic feature of most mental illness that their associated behaviors self-perpetrate the illness. Only being able to see yourself as a victim of others rather than the one most responsible for your own mental health is one of these behaviors.

>>5667913
You won't see me disagreeing with you. Using that as an excuse for the shit in threads like this is pathetic though. Own up to being a shitty person, don't make excuses like "this clearly disturbed person brought it on themselves".

>>5667913
I'm actually the guy the previous guy was responding to, and whilst you did put that first part far better than I could have myself, I will say Mocca himself is at least self-aware about it all.

Some of his fans, as we can see, not so much.

literally just wants to stop streaming regularly. Also mentions that SHE is/was a 4chan regular and purges fans in a cycle. I was following this vtuber since vrchat but i dont have the energy to keep up with the new twitter accounts and identities anymore. I wish them the best and hope they find happiness, hopefully on my lap

>>5668240
>SHE

It's ok to be attracted to guys anon, no-one here will judge you for it.

>>5668240
Only reasonable way to see it.

This thread acts like there is some nefarious reason behind all of this, like he's trying to get pity views or money but you faggots don't remember he literally walked away from a thriving Youtube career with hundreds in donations. If money or views were his primary motivation, he just wouldn't have stopped streaming on his Youtube channel when he was blowing up.

>>5667987
That’s true that people going out of their way to troll them or make them feel bad are genuine pieces of shit.
But on a meta level, you could say making the continuous decision to put oneself in extremely visible positions in search of validation, while resenting that validation as inauthentic but also being extraordinarily sensitive to a lack of validation, becomes one’s own issue eventually. When someone with a mental illness repeatedly chooses to put themselves in environments that exacerbate their unwellness, it becomes a problem that begins with their choices. It might be true that the environment seriously contributes to their suffering, but at a certain point they become responsible for their cyclical choice to return to that environment. How many times do you have to make a new online identity, blow it up, and repeat, before the problem stops being the toxicity of the internet and just becomes your choice to continuously stake your mental health there?

>>5668240
>literally just wants to stop streaming regularly.
Yeah right. How long until he starts again, finds a group of indies, causes a drama and fucks off whining about mental health issues?

>>5668670
I really don't think Mocca disagrees with you considering what you're describing is verbatim what he said. Probably why he's trying to stop being relevant.

>>5668775
But this is exactly what I originally meant when I said he does it to himself - just put a lot more eloquently - which you got pretty damn mad about.

>>5668868
>He does it to himself
is true when you say he's causing himself to be in this situation by not seeking the help he need

>He does it to himself
is not true in the context of he deserves to get shat on because of that and the people doing it now have a good excuse other than the fact that they're terrible posters on /vt/ without empathy

>>5668965
>How many times do you have to make a new online identity, blow it up, and repeat, before the problem stops being the toxicity of the internet and just becomes your choice to continuously stake your mental health there?

You're clearly very upset that I mildly criticized your oshi, may I suggest you also seek the help you need?

>>5669065
Not upset at all and I mostly agree with what you said. I just don't respect making excuses for doxxfags and people that post they want others to die.

I just read the twitlonger.

Holy fuck mocca. Come on bro/girl/whatever, yes it's hard as fuck, but you can dig yourself out of these patterns, with time and effort.

In case you're reading, I can only suggest what I know, which is what worked for me. I'm not telling you what to do but here it is just in case it helps (or anyone else reading):

I suggest reading on wabi-sabi and kintsugi. Repairing the broken with gold, finding purpose in the imperfections. Suffering brings experience and character. Buddhism brings a mindset of awareness of the shittyness of life, humilty and compassion for all life.

As a complementary process, literally get angry. Rebel against the yourself that is following the pattern. Every time you get this fear/thoughts, visualize it as a different you and fucking tear down that motherfucker in your mind. It's basically thought interruption training. Kind of an aggressive meditation.
Don't even try to reason with it, every time it comes, slash, even if you have to repeat it 50 times in a row. Zero tolerance policy.Sword, claws whatever just go fucking apeshit against it, but keep it a short imagined action and always the same action. You condition yourself to feel like a predator and those thoughts a prey, you end up reacting like that to those fears/thoughts, and then those thoughts stop appearing because you've broken and replaced the pattern with something different.

>>5669103
Is that you, Ken-Sama?

>>5669163
kek it's kind of oriental flavoured now that I read it again. But it just works.

To clarify the second technique:
>dissociate the bad thoughts as another you
>go apeshit, do not reason, replace irrational fear with irrational predatory instinct. Tear down and devour it.
>you end up conditioning yourself to a predatory response and jump at it every time those thoughts or emotions appear, so you don't process them. This replaces and breaks the pattern.
>eventually it stops and you dont need to do this

I know it sounds ridiculous, but it works. Probably because psych patterns are chains of conditioned responses and emotional habits, and you fuck up the pattern by introducing reactions and emotions that we all naturally have deep down (predatory behavior) but would not match up with the original emotional patterns, which are more like a prey pattern.

>>5669317
I don't want to speak for others but I doubt you'll reach Mocca with such a masculine approach to things.

>>5669366
I guess so. The kintsugi approach may be more suited.

But maybe the takeaway idea is that you cannot break a pattern by using the same emotions that form such pattern, that's adding water to the river.

Was this the end?

>>5661534
it's because he lost one of his friend a few months ago, it's rough

So many "she" users here even tho mocca made very clear he was a femboy for a while

>>5670386
Mocca has changed so many times I have lost track

another reason why western vtubers are seen as a meme

>>5670503
No, the reason is that you don't know Japanese and have never looked into the crazy shit that indies in Japan are doing. Also, you're retarded.

>>5666460
>English is a mystery
>ESL summerfag trying to fit
>Spamming buzzwords and trying to fit in

>>5670571
Wrong, I said what I said specifically because I did my nip reps. If anything it sounds like you're the one who doesn't understand nips, they have much more tact. You're just a dumb fucking burger that thinks the rest of the world is as menhera as him

>>5662788
Mocca's gender is Mocca.

>>5670737
Sure thing faggot. There's bigger menhera shit than any of this in the Japanese scene and you don't even have to look beyond Hololive but I'm sure your memory is selective enough to forget so you can say dumb shit on 4chan feeling smug.

>>5670737
>muh superior nipponese culture
You will never be japanese

>>5670791
>>5670798
ogey burgers enjoy your delusions

>>5670386
Mocca has explicitly said he doesn't care about and went back on the femboy label, partially because people over corrected over it so often. It doesn't matter.

>>5670835
you make yourself look fake as shit by acting like jp indies aren't menhara as fuck. give up.

I fapped to that one lewd pic of Mocca

>>5677831
Tfw all lewds are gone.

>>5680977
what happened

>>5661534
> Betraying 4chan

Every fucking time. These two faced streamers get a boost from us here and then turn around and shit on the reputation of all chan users.

Fuck him and fuck nyanners too.

>>5694802
> basically, 4chan. I posted a lot, a lot of horrible shit too, and just generally acted like the stereotypical user you'd expect. Not a good person. Full stop, whether or not that had a reason is not really relevant. ... So I did, basically spent all of my days on 4chan and IRC channels for a good chunk of time and posted horrible shit on the board, ... until one day I realized I do not feel like I'm being truthful. You see, it's not like I meant the things I said. It was a performance. A performance so that I can be accepted by someone, anyone.

>>5694802
"I said things I didn't believe to fit in" is not the same as "actually the people who built me up were evil and manipulating me"
Mocca takes the blame for his own actions, who gives a shit if he doesn't consider himself part of the culture anymore or some shit.

>>5670627
You mad bro?

Please Mocca. I need to see your feminine cock, please. I'll listen to all the transgender, social justice human rights issues but please start engaging with your own porn again Mocca.

>>5703070
He mentioned trans people existing once in a whole year of his vtubing and you immediately think he's a crazy SJW. I don't think Mocca would respect you in any way.

>>5704904
I just need his girlcock inches from my face. If there is no respect, it can be all the better too. I love Mocca.

>>5705514
You don't love Mocca, you just want a safe character to explore your faggotry with. Find a new one, they're dime a dozen.

>it's another: online tranny pretends to have Borderline Personality Disorder because they think that's a more sympathetic disorder to have than the one they really have which is Narcissistic Personality Disorder and also because they think having the former makes them more feminine

It's good to see him implode like this, meaning Pomu and Elira won't be able to remake their old connections with him before he's deemed too menhera for collabs.

>>5706187
meds

>>5706226
Hilarious that you believe Mocca would want to interact with them.

>>5680977
Just did a search on gelbooru and they are there

>>5667003
yeah, right? maybe it has to do with the closeness to otaku communities, where there are many mentally challenged peopel already. I was wondering about that just this morning.

There seem to be many many nutjobs in the vtuber community. Kind of weird to display yourself this way then.

>>5704904
any person that puts it's gender in a profile or curriculum is a crazy sjw person and need medication. that's just common knowledge.

>>5709576
I hope you'll be happy one day, anon.

>>5709671
What next you gonna tell him to "touch grass" you stupid terminally online snarky ironybro?

>>5710420
Nope. And there was also no irony in my words. Sorry if that's hard to believe.

>>5694802
You can't "betray" this shithole. At least, not the post-2010s 4chan.

Death to disgusting tr*nny am*rican vtubers.

>>>/lgbt/
go back to your mental illness containment board

>>5704904
he wants porn of this tr*nnoid.
why would he want any respect from him? are you retarded?

>>5722155
Samefag somewhere else.

>>5662697
hopefully he livestreams it

>>5667169
no, I just hate trannies :)

>>5668240
>SHE
stop trolling.

How embarrassing.

>>5722236
which posts am I samefagging retarded schizo?

>>5721652
I know this is bait but
>american

It's a real shame that every mocca stream just became mocca complaining about how he isn't talented or entertaining or worth watching. I read the twitlonger and understand why he thinks that, but for real man you can't just keep doing this to yourself.

>>5724829
it's a poison he can't stop consuming because he's addicted to it.

>>5669545
The end of what? That collab was cute as hell and they both seemed to have a great time together.

>>5725410
I really hope Mocca will at least continue the KH series collab with her one day.

Sounds like he needs to fuck off from the internet for a while and unironically touch grass.

>>5725784
You'd think he would, considering he's friends with the Queen of Grass Touching herself.

This will probably be the last Mocca thread and discussion so I just want to say I'm glad I discovered him and a lot of amazing chuubas through him as well. I wish he could love himself but I accept that he can't right now.

>>5661722
I relate with the self-sabotage thing in their twitlonger but...at some point you have to look at it from the perspective of all the people who depend on you or whose lives you make better by streaming and power through your own shit to keep making the world a better place with your content. Throwing a tantrum and abandoning all those people because you care that little about their feelings is pretty damn disrespectful to your fans.

>>5726240
I'm sure this is trolling but I wouldn't be surprised if people here really believed things like that.

>>5662307
Yes this much was stated by Mocca in the longtweet.
>>5662323
You sound like you barely have any life experience. Mocca aint on heroin or got stuck in sex trafficking. Mocca has the capability to go far in vtubing or entertainment in general. Both of these allow for a future and gathering wealth. The only thing in Mocca's way is Mocca. A terrible childhood of pure neglect and bullying will do this to your psychological development. So all things considered Mocca has come far. But to say Mocca is the worst is an incredible overstatement and absolutely retarded. Never heard of Chris Chan?

>>5726365
It's not trolling, the easiest way to get through depression is to find your place in the world where you can make a difference and apply yourself to improving at that and making others feel good. Seeing the people whose lives you improve by existing makes you forget about all the existential nihilism and self-loathing, because at the very least you have a purpose that other people can't fill no matter how much better than you they are at everything else.
When content creators go into these depressive episodes and just abandon their fanbase it just shows they never really considered their fans as real people who appreciate them and whose lives are improved by their presence, just faceless NPC's or something that they take for granted. It's a really shitty mentality to have as a creator that you can just do whatever the hell you want without any regard for those people that have supported you all that time despite their own real life problems and mental health issues. Think about all the fans who are on the brink of suicide themselves and have nothing keeping them grounded besides the parasocial relationship you've basically groomed them into as your income source. Take responsibility for that shit and don't just run away when it gets too real or becomes an inconvenience.

>>5727132
I'm not reading all that. Calling someone selfish for not sacrificing their mental health to make others happy is retarded.

If you're seriously dependent on a streamer to make you happy you also probably need just as much help as Mocca.

>>5727221
They're not sacrificing their mental health by streaming read the fucking twitlonger you retard.

>>5727415
If that's what you're taking from what he wrote then you really ARE retarded. Maybe time to try basic reading comprehension classes again.

Mocca I know you're ITT you dumbfuck.
Just be happy :)

Seems like a case of spending too much time online to me. With his reception of lewds of his character i also wouldn't be surprised if he was a massive coomer.

How many times does Mocca masturbate per week?

>>5727619
Okay

>>5727132
Entitled viewers are the worst, kill yourself already

>>5727497
Whatever Mocca you fucking baby just keep retreating into your shell every time anyone shows any sort of appreciation or affection towards you. Surely that will work and lead to a good life outcome you dumb bitch.

>>5727698
>per week
considering his mental state I'd say at least 3 times per day
>>5727729
stop browsing this shithole, it'll greatly help you with your mental health.

>>5727698
Im no nofap advocate but probably too many.

>>5728099
Anonchama...

>>5662998
Someone wasn't around for the VR days. the whole boy arc came later. All the tranny the accusations have zero proof.

>>5727221
Don't agree with the other anon's framing, but smoking weed and masturbating and staring at the wall all day is not doing anything positive for Mocca's mental health. He might as well stream. At least he's not alone with his thoughts that way.
I don't think anyone has ever spilled their depression spaghetti to the internet and ever got better. It's just a downward spiral unless someone intervenes IRL.

>>5728858
Neither of us know what he's doing with his time right now, to be fair.

>>5728858
this.
internet manages to make the situation worse when it comes to depression.

>>5728984
He straight up said his life is a cycle of just abandoning people and finding new social groups to inevitably abandon with no growth or improvement to his mental health. Abandoning streaming won't make things better, in fact it'll just lead to more social isolation and repeating the cycle of hooking up with randos from grindr and emotionally abusing anyone who tries to get close to him.

>>5728984
Pretty safe bet it's smoking weed and masturbating and staring at the wall all day.
You don't scream for help as loudly as dumping your depression on the internet if you had any positive and/or productive use of your time.

>>5728984
pretty sure he's browsing 4chan.
he says he's stopped posting here, who the fuck are you kidding? you can never leave this place.

>>5728099
You have problems.

>>5729171
I like how you act like you care for his wellbeing but also try to frame it like Mocca is an abuser. Definitely no ulterior motives here.

>>5729762
Can't it be both? It's not like abusers choose to be the way that they are. As the saying goes, hurt people hurt people. He says it all himself that he tries to pre-empt people abandoning him by abandoning them first. Do you not think that may have fucked up other people into having the same kind of issues forming emotional bonds? Imagine you spend years getting close to someone and even dating them and they just out of the blue decide to cut contact for no discernable reason but because they woke up on the wrong side of the bed one day and decided you're going to betray them so they'll do it first. How would that not fuck someone up?
I'm partially projecting here as I've dealt with people like this many times and they never seem to notice the damage they do to others until it hits them all at once, which just makes the realization that much worse to their mental state.
I'm not just some shitposter trying to goad him into killing himself, it's genuinely helpful to take a step back and look at how you approach social situations from the other side's perspective instead of just living in your head filled with self-doubt and rationalizing it as the entire world being out to get you for reasons you can't explain.

>>5730258
Did you read the entire thing? He said he reconciled with at least some of those friends from the past. Also, he kept apologizing to his fans for doing this and it's not even like he completely disappeared, he's still active on Twitter and Discord.
>I'm partially projecting here
Glad you're self-aware.

>>5728152
What we fapping to bro? Need some good stuff...

Mocca if you're herr please confirm, is your dick feminine?

>>5730638
See for yourself.

I don't buy that shit about making a performance. It seems more to me like he WAS being himself but did not have actual friends that shared this "culture" and is trying to cope his way out of his past here. I would bet my ass 4chan helped him immensely through some hard times like it did for a lot of people here, regardless if he thinks he said some bad shit or not.

>>5730808
Most people on here are pretending to be edgy teenagers to fit in, anon. Don't delude yourself.

>>5730757
poor mocca, lost his peepee and had to replace it with a prosthetic

>>5662872
How often do addicts relapse? same shit. People with mental health problems get stuck in loops and phases. Stop expecting all of them to be able to behave normally. Thats literally some low iq shit.

>>5731360
Lost it in the great femboy war.

>>5730757
I like this one.

>>5731972
of 69?

>>5730757
>>5732078
m-mocca love...

>>5661722
>tranny has meltdown
shocked, shocked I tell you

>>5661534
I remember when I first tuned in and thought "this german, I swear I heard them before" but then they started going on about the whole gender thing and that hit alarm bells.

Whoever vtuber they *might* have been prior didn't matter, all that I did know was this was was mentally unstable and the very thing I hate about western vtubers

That said I don't wish bad upon them, they have a niche, fine, just not for me, if they fall it'll be by their own hands, though I wish not for anti's, that'll just validate it's existence

>>5732191
Never ending love!

>>5732601
mocca...

Can all you tranny obsessed polfags go back? Why the fuck do all these retards buy the "I'm a boy now" shit. literal mouth breathing retards spouting the same word over and over like a bunch of cultist.

>>5732751
/pol/acks are nothing but indoctrinated cultists. They will never stop yelling.

>>5732141
Yes as part of the "Swallows" regiment.

>>5732820
I know. I was sadly one of them and just as bad.

>>5732713
mocca...

Mocca! Please do a cum tribute to this thread, please!

>>5732751
Cause it's hot and Mocca is a vtuber and I'll still watch him

>>5736439
How will you watch him when he doesn't stream?

>>5736510
by watching the porn of him

>>5736697
What was the conclusion of the Mocca removes the R18 tag again?

Is there a link to their discord? I'd like to join it

>>5743123
>post discord link
>handful of people swarm in
>mocca leaves

>>5743434
I could post my tag so someone could send me a link (it's possible to limit the number of uses for an invite to avoid that kind of stuff)
But I could understand mocca wouldn't want any more members

>>5661534
Who?

>>5669545
Did Alker die and that event send Mocca into the dark descent?

>>5725929
Can someone fill me up on Alker? What is she like?

I was curious why so many people were being unnaturally nice to this dude it’s because they’re a 4chan bitch you guys are pathetic.

>>5663398
Sounds like delutaya

>>5750996
Apparently a woman pretending to be a man