/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

We should have a thread mascot.

You forgot to link the previous thread. >>5607183

>>5653424

waste of time unless you've got a godly voice then. no one cares about some weird guy moaning, and if you DO have a good voice you might as well do what Kitty did and just rake in fujo

>>5654443
I know someone who is made up of plasma...

>>5654616
>might as well do what Kitty did and just rake in fujo
just assuming that i do have a godly voice, what specific stuff did he do to rake in fujos?

>>5654737
just watch holostars streams and learn from them, idk if fujos are mostly interested in japanese speakers though

Which /asp/ie do you look up to?

>>5654867
>holostar.
Nijisanji is far better in that territory.

>>5654737
https://www.twitch.tv/xkittymcpancakes

Insane charisma on and off stream. Only male vtuber with that big of an audience that didn't bring it in from past efame

>>5654443
I would like that, I always gotta ctrl f, to find this thread.

>>5655078
Is he still in the process of being cancelled?

>>5655078
so... just be a groomer, but with a deep voice? is it really that easy?

>>5655050
none because idolization of people you can talk to anytime is unhealthy for what should be friendly relationships
the people i look up to are not aspies but they aren't big names either

>>5654443
Naoki (at least I assume it's him) was/is making the threads and he used a redesign picture that honestly fit pretty well. Not sure how disingenuous it would be to use an active chuuba for that.

>>5655175
A mascot that isn't already a vtuber, lets just say an OC for the thread

>>5655230
Yeah I agree, but that uncle Sam vibe that picture had was good. Something like that as an oc definitely works.

>>5655175
naoki wouldn't use his own image to make a thread three times in a row lmao
i know before the rename and i think a bit into it all the threads had a big "/auds/" in the op images when helped when i was still scrolling the catalog and not just using ctrl+f; not sure why that stopped but i'll guess because newer people started making the threads and didn't feel like adding the text to the image

>>5655123
He'll be fine, I think he's just letting the heat die down. He had Cimrai defending him heavily, replying to a bunch of posts and stuff in his stead so I'm sure he'll be OK if he has that big of a streamer twice his size backing him

>>5655156
If it was that easy more people would do it, you need to actually be able to talk to people.

>>5655354
>all the threads had a big "/auds/" in the op images
i remember that and have a couple of the OP images saved before it stopped. i'd like to see it make a comeback. i know that /nasfaqg/ does it, and it think it's neat, because it adds to that cohesiveness of their threads.

>>5654407
Kaoru...

>>5655459
no joke, i actually really liked them. reminded me of those old [Adult Swim] bumpers they'd have between the shows. i think the OP added some filters to it because searching the pics gives originals with a different color

>>5655702
i made a couple of bootleg ones back then (like op) but i could swear that the op of the threads had to mostly be the same person back when the threads were first starting and i gotta give them credit for catching the thread death every time

>>5655881
looks like that OP has stopped for some reason or another. if you've got 'em, please use them (or toss them up into the thread as it's dying) so that we can keep it going. i really liked the vibe it gave.

>>5655931
i usually made them during the thread deaths but if it gives the thread more recognizability i'll try to catch it more often or maybe make a collection of /asp/ ops

>>5655881
>op of the threads had to mostly be the same person back
Idol Hopeful?...
...T- T- Terumi..??
did you really care about use that much you stayed back here long enough to keep making enough threads for us >to become self sufficient?

>>5656021
nah, the big /auds/ in the thread images started a thread or two after she left i believe; idol hopeful used random images for the thread OPs when she was making them

>>5655992
i don't think any anon would really mind. the thread's been in a bit of a lull period anyway. i'd be down to see that /auds/ sign (i guess /asp/ now) make a come back. most of the stuff i have saved was because i thought it was cute.

>>5655230
If you wanna have a little character design contest, I would chip in.
But then gettting new images for op would be hard.

Using an already existing character could work. Like A-chan.

>>5656500
New images will be either drawn by others (if they want, of course) or commissioned

>>5654617
pure energy plasma, no less

Anons help. I get really emotional, start tearing and choking up when I sing song that have a lot of emotion or are connected to animes/movies that are really emotional. What do?

>>5657516
you sing your fucking heart out, you mysterychuuba

>>5657538
I can't get through Secret Base without choking up and crying halfway through...

I don't think I have autism, but I legit speak like a guy that has it. I also repeat things a lot if I don't like the way it came out, until I like it.

>>5657734
everyone knows secret base is a sad song friend, it's understandable

>>5657891
I still want to be able to sing this song for my viewers, completely, without messing up.

>>5656562
Yeah alright.

Does anyone have ideas for a mascot? I can try out some doodles of them. I'm thinking of small Tour guide.

>>5658471
Do it anyway it'll be pure soul

>>5658471
I think it's really just a song you have to keep practicing singing then
Maybe try so gong it verse by verse so that you can jump into each part without the emotions building up?

>>5659027
That's should be "try doing it" but it's 4am and I'm phoneposting in bed gomen

>>5654616
adding onto that anon from last thread, if you want the fujo audience you're not gonna make it with a full masc avatar, plus fujos are flighty and small in number compared to normal viewers, no matter how loud they are
being lewd isn't what gets them anyway, it's collab charisma and cute males

Im losing faith anons…
It’s too late and I’m too average
Maybe I should just give up on this

>>5659187
You should if that's how you think

>>5659101
agreed, if youre questioning whether or not you can do it, you cant. go watch the guy linked and see what he does and how he talks to people. if a normal dude said half the stuff he said itd be an instant drop, but because he's got a good voice and charisma he gets away with it. he'll probably come back wit full numbers liek taiga did

I just read Mocca's twitlonger where he mentions he made it to the interview stage for HoloENs gen 1 auditions. Anyone here to spoonfeed me on what he was making/how successful he was back then?

>>5662321
>Being alone has led me to, uhm, I mean there's no good way to say it other than hookup sites. I started hooking up with basically randos regularly, usually way above my age because those types were very easy and quick to hook up with and didn't expect any connection beyond it, just so I could feel like anyone cared that I existed just for a brief moment. During this time I also met someone through imageboards - I'd still habitually visit regularly - who I talked about 5 weeks with in IRC and then decided, and I am not joking, to move to the UK because he said he would be my boyfriend and loved me.

Jesus fucking christ, is Mocca the ultimate menhera?

>>5658714
I’m happy to draw some thread art too if we can get a little mascot going. I’m the anon who drew the lobster mini redesign a while if anyone remembers that
Blog post: but I wish the draw thread here had more indies in I love to rehash a design for fun.

>So many /asp/ers stream outside of my active timezone
I just wanna watch you all make it, stupid timezones

>>5662408
Cringe

Is it important to have a truly unique name? I forgot to Google the name I chose, and it turns out my surname is shared by a JP indie (I think) with 1k subs. I haven't started streaming or doing any kind of sharing or networking on my socials yet, so I could easily change, but I do like the name.

>>5666059
no, just dont copy someone thats already super popular and avoid names that are somehow trademarked

Email anon here, because people were wondering in previous threads.

I haven't had a response and I'm probably not going to get one. I checked back on the "contact us" page a couple of days ago and a new notice had been put up saying to not ask about auditions so they must've been getting spammed. Sorry guys!

>>5666319
I see, I'll stick with what I have then. Thank you very much!

>>5654407
Since I can actually draw how do I go about setting up a bunch of images to work in the fashion of a rantsona? I know some very basic AV editing and could do it in a prerecorded video, but i have no idea how to do it live.

>>5658714
A guy in a hoodie

>>5658714
makima inspired

i'd rather just a faceless avatar with a mouth that says /asp/ on it going around with a microphone. don't think having the thread's mascot be the literal thing that's advised against is a good idea. especially since you've got maleheras who really don't get it.

>looking through Live2D community discord for riggers in the 'i want clients' section
>so many examples of rigging don't show the heads turning at all
Is this some bizarre high end skill most riggers haven't acquired yet? Where a model can like... look left and right?

>>5672860
most are just self taught riggers who have no idea how to do a proper demo.
>circle head around for full range of motion
>head shaking to demonstrate hair physics
>close up of eye with full range of motion
>close up of mouth for mouthx parameters
>up down tilt + eye movement
>left right tilt + eye movement
if i don't see most of that stuff, i assume they're novices and just ignore them because they're not aware enough to make quality rigs

>>5672945
>if i don't see most of that stuff, i assume they're novices and just ignore them because they're not aware enough to make quality rigs
That's basically what I've been doing, but holy hell it eliminates... basically all of them so far.

>>5672983
yeah, that's the shitty part. i've been looking at some of the other chuubas and who they've been getting rigged by.

Yozora's rigger is currently open and taking commissions. his work on Yozo's lewd model is pretty decent.
https://qryosity.carrd.co/#live2d-rigs

>>5673020
demo reel isn't that great, but she's currently live right now and you can check out her rigging https://www.twitch.tv/yozoraaoi

>>5673065
>check her out
>10 minutes of brb screen

>>5673020
That does seem pretty solid, and I'll look at the stream to see it in real use. In my case, my design doesn't have much for clothes or accessories, so I have to ensure that the facial animations are up to snuff since that'll be the main focus (even more than usual for vtuber models). Looking at other vtubers tends to end in pain since the "big names" use shit like IV that I can't access, or are JP riggers I can't communicate with. Alternatively a lot of indie vtubers have questionable rigging but I can't tell if its due to the rigger's skill level or the vtuber just paying for simple rigging to save money.

Industry right now is a bit of a mess due to being so new so its hard to get real good baselines for stuff.

>>5673331
It happens with streams, you'll end up doing it at some point too.

>>5673346
>my design doesn't have much for clothes or accessories, so I have to ensure that the facial animations are up to snuff since that'll be the main focus
you'd probably be able to negotiate that with your rigger. my design is pretty simple around the chest/torso region as well, so that's my plan for my rigger.

>>5673065
>she's not even using the Shuten cosplay model at the moment
Guess I'll have to go based on the demo, I'll keep them in mind.

>>5658714
default vroid model

you ever look at an artist, see the way they shade and handle proportions and immediately think "yeah, they draw lots of porn"?

>>5674310
My artist posts their porn right next to their SFW commissions on twitter.

>>5674369
that's hot. gonna get my model commissioned from one of them

>don't live alone
>male
>frequently complimented irl on my voice, so i have that at least
how much physical privacy do you need to attempt vtubering? what are the fundamentals of a good vtuber design?

>>5674737
>how much physical privacy do you need to attempt vtubering?
enough that it's not fucking up with your streams. get a room and slap a Do Not Disturb sign or talk with your housemates about it. tell them it's a zoom call or some shit.

>what are the fundamentals of a good vtuber design?
humanoid with a visible face that includes eyes, eyebrows, and a mouth, don't a be fucking retard like Zylphe and go with a faceless design or HazardHornet with a gimmicky model everything else is up in the air.

>>5674737
Probably depends on how much the people you live with will take you into consideration. I live with my SO, and at the start will stream from the living room (where my main computer currently is). However, I've streamed before as a non-vtuber, and they watch this stuff all the time too so they know to not make any noise during streams. I'm working on getting stuff to turn our spare bedroom into an 'office' of sorts that I can stream from which will alleviate this issue.

>design
As the only real 'animation' you can have as a vtuber is facial animations, I'd consider that the main focus for design. Clarity of your eyes and mouth, and head movement as well. Everything else is extra.

>>5674737
>how much physical privacy do you need to attempt vtubering?
meh, you just need a few hours of silence. I usually pick a time when everyone's gone to bed or are out.

>what are the fundamentals of a good vtuber design?
An expressive design that can show emotion and personality. Don't be too gimmicky if you're starting out, keep it simple.

>>5674737
Just tell the people you live with that you're going to stream and need a bit of silence
About designs as long as it has a face it's ok for me, you can make expressive models even if they're not humanoid as long as you have some kind of face, it also depends on what kind of impression you want to leave for your viewers

>he removed the part in his bio about his mic being disabled until he gets a bunch of followers
>he removed the "here's my actual PO box address in my neighborhood, give me GPUs lol" box
>twitter is still protected
dude should really just give up the 3d model, go back to the drawing board with a png that actually has a face, and start using his mic.

>"I want to be a streamer/content creator on twitch or youtube!"
>"but I don't want to talk"
?
I've never understood this mindset. Why do you even want a channel if you don't even like the sound of your own voice? How do you think you'll gain subs without even talking to your audience? Not everyone can be Zentreya or Crowbcat.

>>5675530
No, he should give up. That personality is pure ngmi.

>>5675670
if you've got serious passion for it and are really only doing it because it's fun (Corpse), then i can see it working. but that dude sets up so many unrealistic expectations of how many followers, how many donations, how many tweet likes and retweets and shit.

>>5675733
They seem to be under the impression that "being a vtuber" somehow brings attention by itself. But no, we've reached the point where thats just a normal subset of streamers. You now have to distinguish yourself somehow just like any other streamer. Stop expecting success, time to EARN success. Get your shit together or get out and stop wasting your money & time.

>>5674857
>>5675165
>>5675168
>>5675263
Thanks anons. I should have the computer specs I need, and I have funds reserved for hardware/software (mic, webcam, etc.), so space concerns, building an e-persona, and 'what do i actually play' were the sticking points I was working through. I'm pretty sure nobody wants to watch my bronze ass play league, but I've been thinking of trying to get everything set up in time for the release of Pokemon Unite (both to get in before it gets saturated and because it looks like a really neat game).

>>5675670
I guess he may want to put a voice to the character that's not his own natural voice,
That, or he finds his own voice awkward?

>>5675931
then he needs to grow the fuck up and deal with it.

>>5675871
Have fun. Planning a content strategy can take a lot of work. IMO you always want to focus (at least initially) on stuff you both like and are knowledgeable about. This will shine through as you stream and be more engaging than "random vtuber plays shit they have no idea about #7691". For example, I'll be focusing on alcohol tasting/discussion and playing more niche stuff like diablo 2/PoE/metroidvanias (or just older games). Is it a big market? No. Is it what I want to do? Yes.

>>5654407
You can make your voice sound better in OBS using DAW plugins, right? Which ones would you recommend?

Alright /asp/, I'm doing it. I'm starting my first stream as a png now. Thank you for helping me throughout the threads! We're all going to make it (I think)!

>>5676552
>You can make your voice sound better in OBS
you can't change your voice or "sound better" in OBS by using filters. all of that is still on you and your voice plus the quality of microphone you have.

if you must use filters, i recommend the reaper plugins https://www.reaper.fm/reaplugs/ they've got pretty much everything you'd want. if you don't know what these are, you're probably better off not touching them.

My microphone captures a lot of my mouth sounds, like saliva and lip smacks, any tips on how do I filter those sounds? I can't change how sensitive it is since there is no such option on the windows mic tab.

>>5676766
if you are headset mic anon from last time, move it away from your mouth and closer to your throat

>>5676799
I'm not that anon, I use a USB mic

>>5676870
then move it away from your mouth

>>5676896
Seems better now, thanks anon.
I distanced it 30cm from my mouth and it is now above my head
But I had to use RNNoise instead of speedx, sometimes this filter cuts my voice

>>5676766
By the way I have another problem mut it's just an annoying thing
When I close my obs it always crashes. This only started to happen after the recent update, anyone getting the same problem?

>>5676658
thamks anon

>>5677803
i run OBS in admin mode and haven't had any problems like that

Pondering whether to set my stream to 'mature' or not. I want to talk about alcohol often, and would love to educate people on aspects of it. Including instilling a healthy respect for alcohol, and what to know ahead of time, for underage people. Not to encourage underaged drinking, but just to prepare them with knowledge so they don't do something stupid when they do start drinking. But people are often real stupid about all this, thinking any alcohol related topic is kid-unfriendly. Maybe I should shoot an email to twitch for clarification. At least then I could have something "in writing" from them. I don't expect many underaged people will enjoy my streams regardless, but I won't actually be making real 'mature content' otherwise.

>>5677966
do it, it's literally a single click. pre-roll ads will be more annoying that the "mature audiences" button.

>>5677992
It's more that I would really like to educate younger people on this subject so they can enjoy alcohol in a safe manner instead of hitting drinking age and just chugging shitty beer or horrible tequila shots until they black out because they have no idea what to actually expect. I probably will end up just abandoning that hope and clicking 'mature' to prevent Twitch from making its usual horrible decisions.

If I get in, will I be able to wife Pomu?

>>5678072
just do it, no one gives a fuck. you think the "you must be 18 or older" pop up stops younger people from going onto porn sites?

>>5678106
ywnbav

>>5678126
I realize that, except that if you get a hint that the person is under 18 in a "mature" stream, you as the streamer have to ban them or you get in trouble. Meaning they could never ask questions without getting banned for it unless they do workarounds. Like I said, most likely gonna set it as mature but I wish I didn't have to.

>>5678185
NO ONE FUCKING CARES

>>5678209
I take it you've never had to deal with moderating a stream where bad actors try to cause issues just so they can report the streamer?

>>5678302
>implying the mature content warning will stop them
if they are being uppity bitches, ban them. the fuck are you trying to do? request government issued id from each of your visitors?

>>5678343
You misunderstand what I am talking about entirely. I mean if someone seems to be under 18 for any reason, you have to ban them no matter what. Not doing so will allow anyone to report the streamer for "not moderating their chat" (which is an explicit option in the reporting system), which can potentially get the channel shut down. There are people who create accounts and join mature streams pretending to be under 18 specifically to fish for chances to report this.

This all stems from the fact that I would like to be able to answer questions about drinking from < 18 year old users without getting in trouble. But its too much of a risk of Twitch deciding that's against someones morals, so I'll most likely be setting it as mature. Which sucks, but oh well.

>>5678545
based ass paranoiachad

>>5678545
seek professional help

>>5678545
i'm surprised most streamers with 10k+ viewers arent getting banned everyday

>>5676766
Look into setting up a noise gate in obs

>>5678545
ive literally never had this happen and never heard of it happening in my entire time on twitch, are you sure that you haven't been talking about the way your asshole puckers everyday when you're ruining it with a dragon dildo or something

>>5658471
Sing through regardless, it will create a more genuine atmosphere for your viewers

>>5678607
>>5678755
You know, I'm just looking it up now for clarification and I can't find anything in the TOS regarding this. I've worked with a few streamers that all have mature channels, and every one of them had hard rules for all moderators to ban anyone even suspected as being under 18 to prevent any issues. But as you all implied, there's no actual rule against it that I can find. I guess I learned something today. That's on me then, I was wrong. I'd raise a question against one of the streamers I mod for but at this point I'm stopping all mod work to focus on my own streams so its a moot point going forward.

>/asp/ gen 2 has manly men and no pretty boys
>they're all maleheras like this drunk anon
so there's always a catch... naruhodone

>>5679068
ive never posted anything relating to my model until now just to show that i somewhat resemble a pretty boy
model work has been slow because of the shenanigans i had to deal with a couple weeks back and my completely obliterated sleep schedule but I should be able to get some decent work in today for once

>>5679262
>has eyes
>has eyebrows
>has mouth
looks like you're gonna make it

What sort of stuff are they looking for in the first round of audition, is it there to look out for interesting people or is it there to basically root out anyone incompetent who clearly doesn't know what they are doing?

>>5679378
round 1
>do you have what it takes to hold someone's attention for 5 minutes?
round 2
>are you able to do so in a style and format that suits our company's goals?

>>5679448
nrhd thanks

>>5679320
heh

>>5679068
Eh, not crazy. Just operating under false assumptions which I now realize were incorrect and other anons had the right idea to just hit the 'mature stream' toggle. Feel free to insult me if it makes you feel better though, my stupidity probably annoyed you and it's good to make sure I can handle the heat. Not drunk though, it takes too much alcohol to actually make me reach that point, and all I've been drinking is stout.

>not malehera
>says the malehera typing out literal paragraphs about some made up shit that doesn't happen

>>5679635
It's wild that people really talk like this in casual situations. Don't spend too much on your model and rigging, you won't go above let's say...5 viewers.

>>5680457
My speaking style during streams isn't the same as how I type in this thread. This is more a side effect of over a decade of writing reports & software documentation for clients. I'm fine with spending whatever on my model, I can afford it and I'm not in this to try to "hit it big", I just know what content I want to make, and I'm going to stream it regardless.

>>5680457
>people have started to say stuff like this about viewer numbers
This thread has kinda gone to shit hasn’t it? How a person talks in text does not actually equal how they talk on stream; you can’t really tell one just from seeing the other. Ignore this Anon Alcohol-tuber; people will watch you if you’re good. No-one cares about how you come off outside of the stream as long as you aren’t a raging asshole

>>5680830
just going off how you're replying to this, you have a personality that will not lend itself to being a good entertainer. a stray comment from chat is going to sidetrack you as you sperg out about irrelevant shit.

>>5680860
>I can instantly tell how someone is going to act on stream by reading their online comments
Wow Anon, congrats on your psychic power. Please tell me all about how you’ve cultivated it

>>5680953
alcohol anon made up a fake scenario in his head over shit that doesn't exist despite being told straight up that it doesn't matter and wrote out multiple paragraphs further detailing this fake scenario. what the fuck do you think?

i'd better see you show up in alcohol anon's chat dropping akasupas to prove me wrong though.

>>5681011
>alcohol anon made up a fake scenario in his head over shit that doesn't exist despite being told straight up that it doesn't matter and wrote out multiple paragraphs further detailing this fake scenario.
Actually the scenario was based on rules I worked under for years so assumed were based on proper understandings of Twitch TOS. Which seemed to be wrong and now I question why they were the streamers' rules in the first place. But I was wrong in that assumption and so did what you anons mentioned and set the stream to mature only. And if anyone acts on stream like they type in these threads then that's a real point of concern. I'm mostly just typing like this at this point because it seems to bug you.

>proving the point in real time

>actual mouth breather
Are there any settings to hide my retarded breathing sounds?

>>5682577
do your nose reps

I'm planning on finally streaming today, but I'm still too much of a lil bitch to actually commit and hit that "Go Live" button. I know that once I do it, I'll get over my stage fright, but it's that first time that's fucking me up inside.

>>5675530
>>5675670
Who are you guys talking about?

>>5682577
Stop mouth breathing. It's bad for your teeth too.

test

>>5682577
no. move the mic to the side so it's not facing your mouth.

>>5682779
don't worry about it. just some ngmi chuuba.

Been looking at the resource list in the pastebin, and one of the riggers there has this in their pricing:

>Also includes bi-monthly minor updates for 6 months after completing the model.
Is there any need for 'bi-monthly updates" to a rig or is that just a way of saying you can make changes after its done for 6 months?

>>5683110
probably the latter

>>5682720
Just do it and don't even announce it anywhere. You'll have zero viewers but you'll get over the stage fright.

Where people find designers to create logos for their vtuber projects?

>>5683889
You can commission it or ask around. Matter of fact the same artist who did my model asked early on if I wanted some type of emblem on my model and it morphed into a full blown banner logo.

how is looking for a good live2d rigger as bad of a search as looking for an artist who can draw masculine male?

>get curious
>do archive reps
>there's more of them than i originally thought
why the fuck do so many guys completely miss the entire fucking point?

>>5689194
?

Started my own live2d rigging today and holy shit it's time consuming but it looks much easier than i thought it would be.

>>5689194
Only good thing that comes of those people is the cash in the artist and rigger's wallets.

>>5690035
If a random indie gamedev anon can do it better than everyone else I guess it shouldn't be hard

>>5690035
got tips on how to do your own rigging? i don't even know where to start or what program to download.

>>5689194
>why the fuck do so many guys completely miss the entire fucking point?
meh, I kinda get it. Just consider where these guys are coming from. You have a lot of amateurs many of which might be straightup autists who hate their own voice/personality who design their avatars just to look cool rather than expressive. You have people like Zylphe who are commissioning models of their OCs from when they were 13 as they desperately think that having a "le badass masked ninja/soldier" is gonna get them views and do all the heavy lifting.

>>5689194
i wonder if they think that because they think its cool that kids will think they look cool too but i dont think they have the capacity to think that many steps ahead when they make a design like that

I'm working on this design for my chuba, any feedback.
It's supposed to be a "fairy" type

>>5694923
Simple and cute! Would like to see your ideas on details and colors.

>>5693946
>many of which might be straightup autists who hate their own voice/personality
I think this is a huge reason behind it.

I've had around 7 separate people tell me I have a voice for voice overs and guys in siege saying they thought I sound like a yu girl oh character. I hope that's a complement

>>5695025
Didn't think much about it yet, but i plan on going for a soft pallet, the hair will be a really light shade of blonde with red-pink decals on the end of the twintails and the little head wings. The legs are going to be white high tights and the shoes will have a similar shade of pink from the hair. Didn't think much of the dress but probably going to be using darker colors to make the face and hair pop. Maybe I'll be posting the colored design tomorrow.

>>5695056
>>5693946
why the fuck they trying to be a streamer then?
>>5694368
this is why you gotta design for a streamer, not a cartoon character. you have shit like Power Rangers where you see their face most of the time, then they suit up with a mask. okay, that's cool, i get it. but that works for a tv show. that doesn't work for a streamer, much less a vtuber.

>>5695025
>>5695416
And also going to add some golden yellow on some parts like the cubes on the twintails

>>5695304
If yu girl oh was a typo, it could be a good thing. If it wasn't, well...

>>5695477
>why the fuck they trying to be a streamer then?
that's a very good question

>>5695304
>they thought I sound like a yu girl oh character
first I hope you meant 'yu gi oh'

secondly, you know they're clearly talking about the american dub of the show, since you're speaking english. So that means they're comparing you to the vas of the english dub of the show. You can take that however you want, but if someone said my voice belonged in an american anime dub I would fucking kms.

I’ve gotten rid of the fan static when I’m silent though a noise gate, but when I talk it comes through. My room gets warm so I would really like to leave it on, is there any way to clean out the noise?

>>5695804
if you have an 2000/3000 nvidia card, you can use Nvidia Broadcast to remove it. otherwise no.

>>5695804
Ultimately if it's loud enough no amount of noise removal will fix it without majorly messing with your own voice.

Honestly, the simplest solution is just leaving it off when you stream, which is what I used to do. You might have to accept that when you stream you're room is gonna get hot.

>>5695563
Er, yu gi oh

>>5658714
Sorry I forgot I said this.
Here's a few quick ideas.

>>5695681
What the fuck...

>>5695873
>>5696021
Pain, thanks. I’ll remember this if I win the Best Buy restock lotto.
Related, should I keep my usual EQ/compression settings on when I sing? I was under the impression they distorted the song but I turned them off and I sounded like ass.

>>5697051
you want the compression so the sound doesn't get too loud. if you don't know what you're doing, remove your EQ settings entirely.

>>5696117
not gonna lie, watamote femboy is my personal favorite, but that's because i have a thing for really cute femboys

>>5696117
i'm fond of default live2d and tour guide

>>5696117
I second watamote femboy, it feels fitting

>>5697725
>>5696117
I personally like the idea of a mascot with a split personality, to kinda poke fun at the vtubing dichotomy. Like a cutsey hyper anime girl in public, only to devolve into a depressed, femboy neet in private

>>5696117
Guy in a hoodie is the funniest option. I kinda like Default Vroid-chan too. I think tour guide fits the thread best though, so that’s my vote.

>>5676658
I think I've gotten something decent out of them now, but I really need more room in general and a boom arm.

What's the minimum acceptable quality in a model? I'm drawing mine out because I'm starting to realize I've been trying to save up for a model for months now but I'm better off just drawing out one now instead of hoping I'll have hundreds of dollars for commissions.

>>5700725
anons are streaming as literal pngs, there's no "minimum"

>>5700838
I'll take that as "As long as there is articulation, clean lines, and some amount of shading"

>>5700984
then you're fucking retarded.

>>5696117
I'm torn between all of these, they're pretty good. But my absolute favourite is the tour guide that acts as a "I know literally every Vtuber and they're all my friends" type mascot that's also a stand in for viewers!

>>5696117
I like the femboy cuz its funny

>>5701005
Relax my guy. I just don't want to PNG stream. Or at the very least, not for any long length of time

>>5701705
ok, so you are actually retarded

>>5700725
minimum acceptable quality is "not abhorrent and disgusting to look at for extended periods of time" but that is mutually exclusive from the level of skill behind the model. there's many super simple artists you can emulate as well as some basic color theory you can figure out on your own, but judging from the fact that you asked in the first place you either have a perfectionism issue or are stupid and dont actually know what goes into good aesthetics

>>5700725
Yeah there is no minimum acceptable quality.
There are vtubers who have made their model in microsoft paint, and some with stock images.

If what your actually asking is "how do I make a appealing model without too much effort". Just make it simple. Like a chibi desgin or something.

So, is having a faceless guy that big of a debuff?
I considered the idea of a crusader choober with a helmet
I just think knights are cool and based
He has to have a helmet, the design will morph into a shitty jrpg character without it

>>5706334
yes, it's a debuff.

>>5690497
...live2d. Look at the official documentation, then Kira Omori's videos for more advanced lessons. I drew and rigged my own model from scratch in the span of a month and it looks great.

>>5706334
Using any vtuber model, even if you get a top-end rig, is going to lose something in comparison to a human face. There's going to be some half-expressions that it just can't do.

On top of that, you've got the rest of the body language. As an example, keep track of your arms and shoulders when you talk. Try holding your favourite book in front of you, and then stand still, reading the first several pages out loud without moving. Then let your arms and legs move, shift stance, and put on voices for the characters.

So you're at a disadvantage because your model isn't going to be quite as expressive as a real human. You're also at a disadvantage because (sorry) your artist and rigger aren't going to be the best. People will compare you to other vtubers, and your rig will probably not match up to theirs (unless you're blowing $6000+)

And you want to stack another debuff on top of that, and completely lose your face?

It could maybe work, (see: pngTubers migrating), if you already have a following.

>>5706334
>>5706425
I think it's more to do with the context. The problem with Zylphe and the one posted earlier is that they both seem to take themselves too seriously and don't really play off it, Zylphe for example was using a faceless model as an excuse to work less as opposed to figuring out how to elevate the experience.
I think a knight that sounds like a Monty Python knight would be pretty funny, with some proper muffling and fun accent. Maybe even better if you can figure out how to do armor clanking sounds so you can jiggle around to have some extra expression, but if you're going to play it straight or serious, just give up.

>>5706548
There's a lot more problems to Zylphe than just that, namely that he doesn't want to be a streamer, he just likes the idea of it.

>>5706548
>I think it's more to do with the context.
fuck off. it's a debuff and no amount of """"""""context"""""""" will save you from it. stop trying to even imply that a faceless vtuber will make it. they won't.

>>5706686
there are people who stream with no face at all that are highly successful anon, assuming the experience needs to be tied to a face is short-sighted

>>5706736
>there are people who stream with no face at all that are highly successful anon
exceptions to the rule. fuck of zylphe, you're not convincing anyone. prove me wrong if you genuinely believe it. i'll be waiting here to laugh at you.

>>5706736
I do think in the current day streaming with no facecam is a huge debuff. The big ones who still do it, like Vinesauce (I know he's not 'streaming'), only get away with doing so because they've been around for so long.

>>5706736
>no face at all that are highly successful
1 - citation needed, and
2 - you think your ability to entertain is at their level, Zylphe?

>>5706803
I can't disagree with that since I knew a streamer who had no facecam and hovered around 150 viewers, then got one and became successful enough that chat was no longer comfy. I'm just saying that not having a facecam doesn't mean you'll be stuck at 5 viewers max forever, there's so much more that goes into streaming than just having a face. Hell, my current favorite non-vtuber doesn't have a facecam but he does a lot more with his stream and chat interaction that goes beyond what /asp/ies I know currently do
>>5706736
>>5706831
you guys do remember zylphe also mutes himself and then also makes shitty social media posts and then locks his chat to followers only and then also plays niche games and then doesnt even make his character face towards the viewer and then basically begs for PC parts in his description? dude's a fucking trainwreck

Been using Vtubing to help forget about bad memories and loneliness. Has helped a good bit. Thanks guys

>>5706982
>I'm just saying that not having a facecam doesn't mean you'll be stuck at 5 viewers max forever, there's so much more that goes into streaming than just having a face.
Zylphe, you need to leave. Like seriously. Just stop coming here. You're a shit streamer, you'll never make it. Fuck off. You can try to spew this cope day in and day out, but the fact remains that you don't even have the "so much more that goes into streaming" part of it.
You're not charismatic.
You're not entertaining.
You're not funny.
You're not charming.
Fuck off. Cope as hard you want and cry about how a vtuber avatar's face isn't the be-all-end-all. We know that. Everyone in /asp/ knows that. That's why the number one piece of advice is make content, not "make a good avatar."

But all you're doing is coming up with excuses. Your content isn't good, no one gives a shit about you. You can make as many excuses as you want here, on a mongolia anime picture forum, that's not going to attract viewers to your channel. Fuck off.

>>5707084
i literally listed everything he does wrong that not even having a face would save lmao

>>5707084
Not that any of that is achievable without talking. It's crazy how some people really do not have the capacity for any semblance of critical thought.

>>5707163
Fuck off, Zylphe. Stop coping so hard and accept that the bullshit you're trying to argue for is basically the same as winning the lottery. It's not happening.

i picked a wrong time to walk into the asp thread, i think...?

anyways, i'm coming here to say that we're all gonna make it, even if we're small, as long as we try our hardest!

i got my first donation today, and i haven't even set up my stuff to where i can stream just yet! >.<

i hope you all are doing well!

>>5706334
I literally designed my knight character with a large enough hole in his helmet just so it was easy to see the eyes and mouth, and even then I made his helmet a toggle-able headwear that could be removed whenever I wanted just so I could stream with his full face. The entire point of a vtuber relies on your model reacting to your expressions.

>>5707480
we finally have a boogieman i hope gen 1 is proud!!

>>5703526
Yeah, It's a perfectionism issues. My mind immediately goes wanders to super high quality $2000 model+rigging and my mind thinks to itself that anything less is inadequate. I know as a fact that's incorrect, and like the other anon said people get away with flat colour PNG's and make pretty great content. But It's still a hard feeling to shake off. I already have a very rough sketch of the model, I'll work on that some more, and see how well it turns out. Worst case scenario, is that I learn what not to do for the future.

>>5707516
expressions come from more than just your face, good movement and a good voice factor in as well, thats why I suggested that anon needs to carry with his voice and movement if he wants to be faceless. a monty python black knight vtuber would be fun

>>5707593
>expressions come from more than just your face
Yeah good luck with that.

What's the point in spending any amount of time, effort, or money in a vtuber model just to not give it a face? Why not just become a webcam-less streamer at that point? Sounds way easier and cheaper.

Anyone tried REALITY? Looks good to shill yourself since a lot of people look at every stream, its pretty simple and you can create a character there. Even Polka's roommate shilled it like two years ago. Seems good to do your confidence reps if you cant afford a model right now

>>5707678
if someone had a live2D where only the face was animated it'd be pretty fuckin shit

>>5707533
I'm treating it all like I treat tools for housework.

Buy the absolute minimum £10 ikea 17 piece set, and do what I can with it. If it turns out that anything there can't handle it, I'll buy an upgrade if and when.

Currently I'm using a £30 dynamic PNG; and then I've made all my background and panels myself. They're not great, but it shows I'm putting the effort in, and it maintains a consistent style.

Question though - when I evolve into a L2D form, is it worth doing several stages? So pick out a cheap artist, get the art and rig, see if I grow, repeat at more expensive; or just say 'fuck it' and dive in with a four figure cost?

So to all the defenders of the faceless Vtuber gimmick (which I’m guessing is just one guy) can you point me to the most successful male streamer who has a faceless avatar?

>>5707712
I wasn’t saying body language wasn’t important you moron, however it can’t save an expression-less model.

>>5707480
based soft dragon chuuba

>>5707831
I literally never mentioned that there was even a vtuber with no face that was good, the point was more about there's already streamers in general with no form of facecam which apparently doesn't count. I gave fairly valid reasons why someone like Zylphe doesn't work, it's because they don't do anything to make it work out in the first place. Zylphe is just some dumb freeloader-wannabe that expects praise to come to them for doing nothing and not having a face is the least of their problems because they refuse to make their streams actually entertaining.
Besides that, even before the vtuber boom there would be streamers who would just put a static image of their OCs on the stream with not even any mouth movement that PNGtubers do these days.
I was never attempting to defend the people like Zylphe and the earlier one posted, my point was that the one way it could work is if you actually think out of the box and make something fun out of it, and that a face has never been a hard requirement for a successful stream as much as it is something that can elevate it if you're good with it.

>>5707678
>What's the point in spending any amount of time, effort, or money in a vtuber model just to not give it a face? Why not just become a webcam-less streamer at that point?
Whoa whoa whoooaa, anon. Unfortunately you’re thinking through this logically where you expect someone to think ahead, consider their options, THEN make a choice.

In reality, these people already blew $1-2k in designing a model that can’t emote without even thinking about whether or not any viewer would be into that (as well as not bothering to check if any other big successful streamer has a boring faceless model to make sure that there’s at least precedent for success) and now that they realize the massive blunder they’ve made, they can’t go back because that money is already burned so now they gotta stick with it and keep coping. “Y-yeah, plenty of people will stick around for my streams. People love staring at a vtuber who can’t emote for hours on end.”

It’s just denial anon, the first stage of grief. People like Zylphe are already on the anger stage. You’ll notice how all of their arguments as to why a faceless avatar isn’t a terrible idea stems from hypotheticals. “People could be into that. People might watch someone who doesn’t have a face.” Yet they can never point to a definitive successful vtuber whose done it because there is none.

people out here forgetting that being funny matters more than being pretty
we straight up had a conversation about having the best rigged model in the world means nothing without the entertainment value

>>5708273
I think they know, but they've deluded themselves into thinking an avatar can someone save them.

For the NIJISANJI audition... Are anons using unedited stream footage for their video, or clipped highlights?

>>5709052
It’s only 5 minutes long, I’d go with highlights if you have them.

>new mic
>”you sound a little quiet”
>”you keep cutting out mid-sentence”
>switch back to broken headset mic
>”yeah that’s better”
I’m suing whoever wrote the auds pastebin for damages. I thought I sounded pretty good in Reaper... maybe I didn’t test the settings enough?

>>5709052
Depends what you’re doing I think. I did mine unedited but got to a point in the game where there was stuff to do and talk about.
I also did it unscripted because what’s the point in scripting it if they’re checking I can livestream in character

>>5709848
I'd be pulling footage from my existing streams, which are of course unscripted.

>an avatar can't carry you!

>X is only successful because they spent a bunch of money!

make up your minds

>>5710087
Who are you quoting?

>>5694923
>>5695416
Looks nice.

>>5696117
Tour guide seems fitting for the thread

>>5696111
I love love LOVE tour guide.

>>5706532
Mind showing it off, anon? I'd like to see how far id get myself.

I found this character in skima and I like her. Imagine all the potential art of her for the op.

>>5709366
What mic do you have? Is it an XLR mic or a USB mic?
If it’s an XLR mic, and it’s dynamic or ribbon, you might want to get a cloud lifter, or otherwise up the gain for your mic or (if you’re using a noise gate filter) turn off the noise gate
If you’re using a USB mic, unless it’s an Elgato or similar specifically designed for streaming or a USB version of an XLR mic like an AT2020 USB, you won’t get good results
If you do want a good resource for mics though (and for online voice acting in general) check out these two videos and maybe the rest of the series:
https://youtu.be/_sjZJ9i_mH0
https://youtu.be/FkTWBFYaJmE

>>5696117
The femboy and Tour guide were picked the most, so I worked on them a little more.

I think I'm done with them, so I'm going to bed. Anyone else is free to add anything to them though.
If I still like them in the morning I'll draw some art of them.

>>5713650
bless you anon.

>>5710087
A super high quality design, rigged (and retweeted) by someone like Iron Vertex will garner a bunch of initial views, there's no real way to argue that. It'll bring in eyes when you debut/start since your artist and rigger will shine some attention on you, and bigger names mean they have more followers that will learn about you. However, from that point forward, your model doesn't mean much. Even a high quality model won't actually entertain people, it doesn't create content, etc. You have to actually be entertaining, or informative, depending on what kind of content you wish to create.

However, making a vtuber model that doesn't show expressions is effectively the same as having no cam and covering a chunk of the screen in a random PNG no one cares about.

>>5713650
I could kinda see this as a mascot duo. A tour guide trying to help people as best they can, but the femboy just constantly doing all the wrong shit no matter what they are told.

>>5724199
don’t badmouth femboys, all new chuubas do this anyway

>>5725310
It wasn't anything against them for being a femboy, just I find the dynamic funny of the guide trying to keep it together while the newbie just keeps doing stuff wrong.

I have a mostly finished model, and I want to start streaming already but I'm not really feeling the design. Should I wait until I finish the redesign and its model or should I just finish up what I have go ahead and stream already?

>>5728604
just finish up & start streaming, you can change your model later

Do these things cancel noise coming from outside my room? My family is really noisy and my biggest fear is that they leak my name or something personal while I'm streaming.

>artist nearly done my design & ready to rig artwork
>just sent a message off to a rigger they know that seems to do decent quality work that has July slots
>all parts have arrived for my new streaming PC
It's all coming together.

All this faceless vtuber talk made me think about Love Live Rina and her board. Surprised I haven't seen chubas with the same idea yet.

>>5729382
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOozmdnOhOrk3mojTazi-TQ
Well kinda

>>5728604
Waiting for the stars to align only works if you have years of experience streaming on a different name or you're insanely interesting and charismatic

what are the most overused design elements?

>>5729382
that's just an anime version of the western "tv-head" / "tv-face" character design, which we literally already have a bunch of

>>5729481
thats really cute

"it looks really nice" -Terumi

i've said this before, but Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney characters would make for some good vtuber models. they're silly but simple and very understandable with a clear theme.

>>5730660
Cat ears, Cyberpunk-inspired urban techwears and hoodies

>>5732119
top left is just Shien from Holostars
phoenix himself is too bland
top right is a generic nekomimi

center left reminds me of Rummy from Rum&Coq
center middle would be too distracting with hair covering the screen
center right is pretty much aristocrat pretty boy

bottom left is male gura
bottom middle might work, expression gives of Callie vibes
bottom right has dumb hair, but i can see it working

>>5694923
>>5695025
I'm back, one anon asked for my ideas on colors so I have collored it. any feedback?

>>5734279
I'm the one that asked about colors, personally I'm a sucker for green but that blue one is the most pleasant to look at. I'd suggest looking for some complimentary colors and highlights to start making things pop though.

>>5734401
understood. i tried using the 3 adjacent color pallete for those so i didn't think much about complimentary colors

>>5734279
Green feels nice cause it have good contrast.

I love these kinds of threads where people are working towards a goal in their life. I wish everyone here a very gmi.

>>5732364
pirate Rummy/Coqui/Krimbo would be such a cool alternate outfit idea
>>5736226
>thank you kind anon, i hope you make it as well in whatever your endeavors are!
>>5734279
gonna parrot the other anons and agree the the left two are my favorites as well, though i'm more partial to the blue one

>>5713419
It’s a Shure SM58 with the Focusrite Scarlett as an interface, so an XLR. Thanks for the videos, I’ll look into those a bit later.

ARTIST CHAMA. PLEASE. GIVE ME MY MODEL.

>>5737564
>buys an XLR mic
>doesn't know how to set up audio for it
this is exactly what you guys fucking get when you bash Yetis and higher end USB mics for years

>>5737678
i've been saying from the beginning, just get yourself an Elgato Wave 3. it's decent quality, super easy to set up, comes with its own software mixer. fucking /asp/ies getting misguided because a handful of /mu/ tourist come in and start sperging about XLRs and shit

>>5737766
What about a HyperX QuadCast? That's the one I was looking at and it seemed fine to me. Honestly, knowing what makes a good mike good would be enough for most people I think.

>>5737952
adjustable gain as a physical dial is nice but it's in an awkward as fuck position under the mic. the elgato comes with its software mixer, so i'd still recommend that.

>>5713650
Anon I love her. Please

>>5736549
>>5734690
>>5734401
also asked some friends and they also liked blue so i'm going with blue.
put some yellow and made the outer part of the dress dress darker for contrast

>>5739012
This is soooooo cute anon!!!

>>5739012
Very cute! The color scheme also makes her look really refined too.

>>5739056
>>5739073
thx anons!

>>5739012
purple and gold is a nice combo
>>5738085
be sure to include the slashes for /asp/ and not just asp on its own

>>5739012
I suggest making the stockings white since there's a lot of purple going on. at the lower half of the body. The white stockings would help separate it a bit,

/asp/ is a difficult combination of letters to come up with a name for. only have
>r/asp/berries
>j/asp/er

>>5742056
why not
>/asp/irants

>>5742145
sounds more like a title than a name. was coming up with a nickname for the thread mascot

>>5742177
Oh, okay, I thought you were coming up with a name for us. I'm bad at names, myself.

>>5742056
>/asp/ergs

>>5729124
Answer: No, you'd have to put those on the other side, but it wont cancel the noise 100%

>>5737564
Okay looking into it that’s a dynamic mic; explains why it kind of had some unfortunate softness. See, you need to purchase a cloudlifter with dynamic XLR mics, and without a cloudlifter things will be way too soft.
Also just for the record, USB mics are mostly not good for streaming outside of something specifically designed for streaming like the Elgato Wave 3, so if you see someone recommending a USB mic that isn’t like that then please don’t listen to them. Most USB mics have pretty bad overall audio compared to stuff like the Elgato Wave 3. Yetis and the like are good for gaming and talking with friends but generally stuff like Elgatos and USB versions of studio-quality mics (like AT2020 USBs) are better for streaming and longer recording sessions.
>>5738063
The Quadcast actually has a software mixer itself but it’s more of a podcast mic than a stream mic.

>>5743731
Ah the Quadcast is not the one I’m thinking of
Well, I have watched a streamer who uses a Quadcast and it works pretty well for him IMO; it should be fine, though the Wave would be better
Still if you’re the Anon who got the SM58, it’s probably cheaper to get a cloudlifter or an alternative type of pre-amp than to get a whole new microphone

>>5743731
>don't buy a USB mic
>says the /mu/ faggot who is telling someone to just buy an XLR and get multiple other parts to make it usable for streaming
wow if only there was a microphone that was super easy to use, just had to be plugged in, and could give a decent sound quality
nope guess you have no choice but to drop a few hundred on XLR mic setups and struggle for months trying to figure out the right combination of shit to make it work, before streaming to literally 5 people, because someone said Yetis suck

>>5745269
Why are you acting like this is some widespread issue? I have a similar setup and all I did was plug the Solo in, plug the mic in, install the software. It worked fine. This anon is clearly just an outlier. Yetis DO suck.

>>5745508
>Yetis DO suck
ok then explain why

>>5745508
explain why USB mics are apparently entirely unusable in your opinion then since you seem to be so intent on shilling XLR mics to people with 5 viewers

>>5745508
The only time I ever see "yetis suck" talked about is from audiophiles and audio engineers that I've talked to. Obviously a good XLR is going to be better, but it seems people like you never take "fitness for purpose" into account.

>>5745269
>wow if only there was a microphone that was super easy to use, just had to be plugged in, and could give a decent sound quality
It's called the Samson Meteor

>>5745508
USB Mics are perfectly fine audio quality for low-mid range streamers
I have never had anyone complain about my Yeti's quality and the only setup is you need to set up sound gates right to keep it from picking up everything but it's plug and play after that
why should I spend another 500 dollars on an XLR setup to upgrade just because some faggot on /asp/ says there apparently some hidden audio quality issues both myself and my viewers aren't picking up and I need to have a professional recording setup instead?

>buy an expensive XLR microphone and mixer because there's the potential to upgrade in the future to stream on twitch where video compression kills any audio quality and game sounds drown out your mic anyway.

>>5745269
I mean, the person I’m talking to has already bought an XLR mic and a whole audio interface. Buying a preamp overall will cost less than buying a Wave 3.
Most people would be fine with just starting out with a USB mic though, although they shouldn’t be low end as always

are these the same people who think you have to have an iPhoneX as facial tracking from the start as well? you know you don't need professional equipment from the start right? you can start out and upgrade later if you see success

>>5746077
BUT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND
i NEED to have a $2k model, with $1k rigging, with a iPhone12 face tracking, custom logos and branding, with 30 pieces of fanart commissioned on $150+ artists through skeb and custom stinger transitions or else i won't make it.

>>5745975
If you’re going to be doing a chatting stream or something similar you’re going to want at least a decent mic
Again though I am not talking to most people; I am talking to the person who already bought a Scarlett and a Dynamic mic. They have three options; sell the Dynamic mic and audio interface and buy a USB mic, which is fine but requires Anon to create an account where they can sell stuff, don’t sell the mic and interface and buy a USB mic, which is just wasting money, or just buy a cheap preamp that does the job of increasing audio signals, which is easier than the above two

>>5746268
>if you're going to be doing a just chatting stream
80% of standalone mics whether USB or standalone are sufficient for it, you're absolutely delusional if you're goin to sit here and keep saying everyone needs to get a professional mic and mixer just to do just chatting streams

>>5746077
If they have the money to burn, why stop them? A good design can help greatly if they want to make an impact. Knowing how to do the job is another story.

>>5746376
I didn’t say you needed an XLR for a chatting stream, I just said you need a decent mic (which includes the Wave 3 for the record)
For the record USB mics are mostly fine but the fact that most come without the ability to adjust their gain in a precise manner kind of hurts them. The Elgato and Rode NT-Mini are better for this though since they have in-built audio mixing software.

>decided to check out Live2D pricing to get into rigging
>no perpetual license option
Fuck modern software Jewry. Fuck photoshop for normalizing this bullshit.

>>5747197
You will own nothing, service economy is the future.

>>5747197
Just pirate it like true f2p indie.

“Bought a nice mic” anon here, didn’t mean to cause any trouble. I was jokingly-venting last night, I wasn’t actually super mad at Pastebin Guy. I bought the nice mic because a. My headset mic broke, b. I have a Snowball but every time I try to use it my friends tell me it sounds bad, c. Everything was refundable except for the $15 mic stand, d. Basically everything I do goes through a microphone at this point, not just streaming, e. I have a lot of money. I didn’t spend my life’s savings on magic beans, I was just a little annoyed that Reaper tricked me into thinking it was good enough to go live and looking for advice. Didn’t mean to come off that belligerent, my bad.
I’ll look into the Cloudlifter. There were a few settings I think I was using improperly so I’ll mess with those some more too. Thanks for the help.

>>5747887
PIRATED CLIP STUDIO PAINT PIRATED LIVE2D STUDIO PIRATED VTUBE STUDIO STOLEN GAMING PC STOLEN MIC STOLEN IPHONE NEIGHBOURS WIFI MOMMAS HOUSE STOLEN SOLAR PANELS STOLEN SUN SOLAR ENERGY STOLEN WATER WHEEL NEIGHBOURS RIVER STOLEN HYDROELECTRIC PLANT CHARGING PHONE WITH WORK ELECTRICITY SHOWER
FREE STREAMING

>>5746166
cimrai

>>5745967
500? Try half that, stop exaggerating to try and "prove" your point.

What makes a good follow/sub notification?

>>5749716
something thematic

>>5749716
Short and sweet.

>>5749716
If you must have sound make it quick.

>>5749873
magi- magikarp- karp
magi- magikarp- karp
magi- magikarp- karp- karp- karp- karp~

Looking forward to debuting as a member of /asp/ gen 2 soon...

>>5747197
According to Brian tsui you can make good quality live2d models with free version

How often does the face tracking software glitch and show your face? how do I avoid this ever happening?

>>5750770
never.

>>5750688
i can vouch for this but you'd be better off making it waist up only to keep the art resolution decent

>>5750658
Do we have a proper definition of who qualifies as a gen 2 yet?

>>5751720
basically any anon who debuts from this point onwards. i think japanese rain charm was the last one of the /asp/ gen 1 because there's been a pretty long gap since anyone else has debuted.

>>5750931
but I've seen videos of it failing...

>>5754119
post exact video because it varies depending on software.

>>5754143
dunno just googled and got these two.
https://youtu.be/9wydvqDvjOI
https://youtu.be/DIFbgtiQnZY

I also saw one that was of a porn vtuber in another board

>>5754119
I think you’re guaranteed safe if you’re using fancy iPhone tracking. The rest is more software dependent.

>>5754313
Thats just ancient software. Shouldn't be an issue anymore.

>>5754416
thanks, that makes me feel safer.

>>5754313
both examples are from ancient outdated programs that act as an overlay on top of the webcam feed using flat image tracking.

vtubing in the current year use iphone's FaceID which only collected depth map image which is created by shining IR dots on your face and calculating those. so there is never any footage recorded to begin with, just numbers that represent those IR dots.

vtube studio takes those numbers and translates it to movement, so there is zero risk of a face reveal.


other tracking software like FaceRig and Animaze don't output your webcam footage, so you'd have to intentionally go out of your way to select your own webcam footage as a source in OBS for it to fuck up that much.

>be me a few weeks ago
>small twitch vtuber who made her own model
>gets a twitter pm asking me if i take vtuber commissions
>pogchamp.jpg
>easy 300$ in the bag
>cute design, but they say they dont have the money yet
>"that's okay commissioner! take as much time as you need! here's my discord!"
>gets a message every few days
>"hey"
>"hey"
>"hey"
>ew they're one of those kinda people
>tries to respond each time but they don't seem to know how to make conversation
>sometimes they just send their twitch clips
>understandable I guess I've been there ( I AM there I guess, shit's tough and it's hard to grow )
>weeks pass
>gets kinda big on tiktok promoting my twitch
> gets and works on another commission
>new commissioner is very sweet! goes very smoothly and she's very communicative
>finishes it! looks great!
>starts on commissioner-san's model
>he gives me 2 psds
>both are solid, merged images. a-symmetircal.
>it's hard to explain, but there's a lot about them that would be hard to translate into a model.
>"hey commissioner! can you send me the artist's info, thanks!"
>sends over info
>talks to artist
>artist says she wasn't paid to separate the model and doesn't make artwork that way.
>fuck
>sees commissioner is streaming now
>looks at stream
>he now already has a fully rigged model that looks exactly the same as the one he sent me except there's a slightly different outfit.
>w-what?
>messages him
>"hey! I love your new model :D! would you still like to commission me for the rig?"
>"yes"
>???

does he want... just another outfit? did that poor rigger have to separate that whole model? why is he commissioning 2 separate riggers for just an outfit switch when he's tight on cash? Am I crazy and complaining over nothing or is that really weird?

>>5754708
sounds like a malehera. just do the commission and drop him.
hope you have a clause in your Terms and Conditions allowing you to charge more for model cutting because it's a flat .psd with no layers

>>5739012
cute anon! i like it a lot! maybe the legs are a little too bow-legged but other than that it's really cute! that color scheme can work with a lot of different overlays too which is nice!

>>5754820
yea imma charge him a little more if he makes me do the whole damn thing. imma try and ask to just get the seperated psd from whoever rigged the current model he has and then add the other outfit onto it. shouldn't take too long it's just really weird. like??? i get making a whole other model from an artist you think makes nice stuff because pretty art but this seems like a lot of unnecessary hoops to jump through. google is free and if youre going to be paying upwards of 300$ for something on the internet you'd think you'd look into how it's made a bit so you don't spend more money then needed right?

>>5754957
fools and their money, anon. as long as you get paid, fuck 'em.

Seeing Hina say she sent her application at the last minute makes me think they will start watching auditions seriously after deadline. If not at least preemptively giving flash views to the applicants they have so far.

>>5755273
unless you're a male, i don't know why anyone would flat out not view audition tapes unless you've got a full roster of rockstar candidates. nijisanji's gonna be on the lookout for the next Gura.

>>5754313
share porn vutber

>>5755273
Is this in the same stream she mentioned prepping with a 20 page document or something like that?

>>5755485
No, it was the one when she said she felt useless and a lost cause and sent the audition at the last minute because she had that little faith in herself.

This is the gen list for /asp/ based on when people popped up and stayed active.

>>5756368
i have no idea who these are.
i guess lobster would be the first of gen 3 with her re-debut as a full live2d model?

I decided to not audition for Nijisanji this round and instead spend the time building a better YT channel until the next one. Hololive isn't even something I'm considering due to the extreme competition- and I personally don't enjoy the restrictions they have. I might try to join a smaller company and use it as a stepping stone for Niji, but it would take a pretty long time if I do that. I might be burnt out on VTubing by then too.

DESU even if I don't get into Niji or change my mind about joining a smaller company, a YT channel with a few hundred subs would still be nice. I already have a channel, but it's a trash heap with meme vids (no it's not the same quality as Gura's roommate). It does have a sizeable amount of views however (most popular one at 400k, and 20k on most of my other ones).

Guess it's better late than never to start a gaming channel.

>>5756368
dang i gotta step up

>>5756437
From left to right,
KajiOniyama, fightan game oni chuuba
https://www.twitch.tv/kajioniyama
AhRinge, babi bandit, plays a bunch of different stuff
https://www.twitch.tv/ringech
IberoCorporis, streams infrequently and i think usually does Hearthstone stuff? Has a self-made model with SOUL
https://www.twitch.tv/iberocorporis
Cocobungus, artist that did some drawing streams recently, has been collabing with Akashi
https://www.twitch.tv/cocobungus
"Gen 3" will probably consist of Retsu, and the other mentioned, along with any of the chuubas that have been posting their design in recent threads if they start doing test streams

I have this annoying buzz going around in the background and I usually use audacity's noise reduction to get rid of it, but for future reference what's a good audio mixer that could do the same?

>>5756639
guess you can count me in as part of gen3 then. might post a design pic once i get my model back, as i think i've got a rigger locked up (maybe)

>>5756775
you need to figure out where that buzz is coming from first.

>>5756795
It's from the AVR I've got, most of the things on my PC are hooked up to it. I've tried getting rid of the buzz or mitigating it to no avail.

>>5756913
AVR?

Dumb question but how do i become /asp/ie? Should i report and tease progress? Or it's okay to just drop the link to the first stream?

>>5756437
You can check out my vtuber intro. It has everything you need to know. :)
https://twitter.com/KajiOniyama/status/1408859244825387015

Anyways here's my hussar model. Still in the process of being rigged. It's a little plain but I didn't want to go overboard for my first model commission, plus I didn't want it to be overly expensive. But I'm satisfied with how it turned out.

>>5756795
>guess you can count me in as part of gen3 then
same. I didn't know that we were supposed to be actively self-promoting our models. Like I expected that to be against the rules or something.

>>5756942
Voltage regulator. Shithole infrastructure means fluctuations every now and then which might've fried my shit.

>>5756954
uh, if i had to draw a line in the sand, it'd be an chuuba who has had more than a passing interaction with this thread, /wvt/ and other chuubas from /asp/.

so like, that aztec guy god who was here months ago when the thread was still called /auds/ probably wouldn't count as an /asp/ie.

>>5757018
Does it have a winged version?

>>5757018
the no-selfpromotion rule is more for shit like advertisers, brands, etc. shilling themselves for profit (they need to go through 4chans ad process, not freely spam threads) it doesn't really apply to vtubers.
but the model looks neat. your content gonna be thematic with the model?

>>5757026
holy shit now that's a throwback
there was also that guy who had that like top hat with a steampunk aesthetic but his game window was like 1/4th of the screen with a lot of empty space
>>5757018
very handsome face
i totally get not wanting to shell out a bunch for your first model too you can always upgrade in the future
>>5756954
just post yourself here, a lot of the people considered to be /asp/ies posted test streams and asked questions about their designs or layouts

>>5757177
>top hat with a steampunk aesthetic but his game window
oh shit, that's right. totally forgot about him. i wonder what those guys are up to... can't be assed to dive into the archives to look them up so i'm just gonna believe they're doing okay with 20 viewers each.

I really dont wanna post my model too much but considering the thread is about to die I think this is the best time to post the sketch openly.
Still had at work on the actual model which has a few changes from this, mostly troubles from cold, sickness and sudden changes at work but I'm finally at the coloring stage.

>>5757292
pretty simple, hope your face rigging makes up for the lack of attention grabbing accessories and details

>>5757055
>Does it have a winged version?
Maybe on a future 3d model but not this one. I experimented with how it'd look as just a 2d model and it looked weird. The perspective of the wings behind the head were distracting, not to mention they were massive, so they'd be constantly obstructing like half of the screen, so I streamlined it. I do plan on adding a hat like pic related as well as a pelt along the chestplate, but I'm waiting until we're done rigging it.

>>5757125
>the no-selfpromotion rule is more for shit like advertisers, brands, etc. shilling themselves for profit
gotcha. I just never know since I'm new here to the thread, plus I've barely seen any self promotion in the last few weeks anyways, so I just thought it might be a rule or something.

>your content gonna be thematic with the model?
Not really a lot of games with polish hussars. I might play some mount and blade for fun, but that'd be it. I'm mostly going to be focusing on some lesser known slightly older fps games, but that might change depending on my viewership.

>>5757177
>i totally get not wanting to shell out a bunch for your first model too you can always upgrade in the future
This was my mindset from the getgo. I just want a decent model that I can make a start with, then worry about upgrading much later.

>>5757233
i followed him back when he first selfposted and he's still streaming o7
https://www.twitch.tv/xaydn_rixioj

>>5757339
Oh there's details that aren't on the sketch that are in the linework, some extra makeup and some accessories I haven't seen other chuubas do, but the vibe is mostly the same.
As well as something else...

>>5757361
>plus I've barely seen any self promotion in the last few weeks anyways
i think a lot of it just chuubas not wanting to be so openly associated with 4chan.

>I'm mostly going to be focusing on some lesser known slightly older fps games
sounds good, anon. hope it works out for you.

>>5757375
oh shit, that's cool. props to him for still being active and streaming away.

>>5757582
i'm not sure what i'm taking away from the image. but can't wait to see the final model be finished. curious to see what these rare accessories might be.

>>5757005
kek

dumb question, do i have to refer to previous gens as senpais? that's just a jp thing, right?

>>5758667
these "gens" are made up and you don't have to refer to anyone as anything.

>>5758715
I will now refer to all future and former gens as bitches

>>5759014
literally based
>>5758667
no one does that as far as i know

>>5758715
>>5759080
yeah, dumb question, but i just wanted to make sure. thanks anons

>>5759014
now THAT'S ballin

>>5747197
the free version works just fine for beginners, activate the pro trial when you feel decent enough at rigging

Since other anons have posted their designs, I guess I can drop mine here as well. This is currently just a draft sketch, and I need to find a Live2D rigger afterwards.

>>5760333
damn thats way better than mine at being a pretty boy

>>5757724
>curious to see what these rare accessories might be
i was actually trying to re-jog my memory with how i came to that conclusion and suddenly thought towa and oga had them but apparently not after checking. i just hope it looks good

>>5760333
Is your artist Jouvru? Gorgeous model btw.

>>5760414
>damn thats way better than mine at being a pretty boy
Sorry, I did not mean to compare! This is something that I commissioned and is 100% the talent of my artist.

>>5760438
Yes, it is! I actually found him by chance when he posted a Live2D commission for another male vtuber. I was lucky enough to secure a spot in one of his commissions.

>>5760333
It looks great. My only issue with it is the body seems a bit too wide in comparison to the head, but it’s only a draft so far

>>5760533
Thank you, anon!

>>5760333
very handsome design, would open mouth kiss with tongue

>>5760641
Shucks, you're making me blush.

>>5760504
>Sorry, I did not mean to compare!
nah im teasing dont worry about it, though it is making me rethink how I'm doing some of my lineart, this model's been in the works for a bit too long that my creative juices are failing me a bit

>>5760504
Bro! We're going to be siblings! I got the final July slot! Going to be bringing my Cu Sídhe to sexy life. Their art really is the best for sexy men. Are you on the discord server? I'd love to follow you on Twitch/Twitter

>>5760759
I've been lurking and reading that one of the strengths of being a vtuber is that you've got a lot more freedom to reincarnate and change up aspects of your avatar. Maybe a fresh new perspective on the direction you want to go might do the trick?

>>5760829
Oh that's awesome! I knew it! I had an inkling that this might have been the case. Some of the stuff I'd been seeing here appeared to be a bit too coincidental!

I am not on the Discord, unfortunately. I've been staying away from it mostly because it's a bit of a hassle to switch between the Discord profiles I have right now. And I felt lurking here would have been more than enough.

I'm gonna hold off on posting my Twitch or Twitter for just the moment, if you'd understand. I don't really have anything there at the moment.

>>5760922
Completely understand. I've been pretty terrified to post anything too obvious on here as well. That's so cool though! I hope it all goes well for you.

>>5760984
Thanks, anon. Can't wait to see everyone debut. Just from these paste few posts, looks like we've got a pretty wide variety covered. Best of luck to everyone who shared their designs tonight, as well as those who are still lurking!

>>5760922
your model gave me that fresh perspective and a bit of a wakeup call, just needed to go back a bit and see what was going through my head in the initial designs for my character and rethink how I was gonna present myself
the design will be mostly the same, just needed a bit more flair to the linework really

as for the discord stuff, I currently use chrome to access my vtuber account while my desktop is still my roommate account. alternatively you can also download the public test branch of discord so you can have two different clients up at once

>>5761357
Good luck, anon. Hope however your design ends up, it works for what you are looking for.

And thanks for the pointers on the Discord stuff. I'll keep it under consideration. Though I'm 100% aware that getting an actual invite link is unlike due to the trolls, I might reach out to some /asp/ies from the previous generation once I'm read to make that leap.

Not really an /asp/ie since ive been streaming on and off for a while now, but I'm dying here waiting for a 3D modeler to open up so I can redebut. I have a Live2D artist (that i can guarantee will take my commission since) whoopens up in July but it's the same month as the 3D artists opens. I'd rather go 3D but it seems like I'm gonna be stuck with a 2D since good 3D artists are in such high demand.

>>5761468
there's several pre-debuts that have been in the channel for a while so feel free to reach out at any point
>>5761565
good luck! hopefully you can snag that 3D spot!