/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>56482073
How is this a good move?

>>56482073
can you get selen please oh king david

>>56482271
Really good PR

Jews are too fucking clever and manipulative. See OP picrel for why Ethnostates are necessary.

>>56482073
>the jew is winning
How do you reply… without sounding angry.

Why not take it a step further and reveal where all the money is coming from to fund it

Move? Both Yagoo and Riku run an operation 1000x larger than Aviel. You don't move for ankle biters.
I get his PR angle here with Idol. Now prove to us that the audience gives a shit by growing your talents' viewerbase. This may be appealing if you were selling computer parts. The only thing I care about is when's my oshi's next collab with her wife. And that's why Idol is reclining.

>>56482073
Why would yagoo or riku do something because some shitter corp said so?

>>56482073
>joe's burger shop does something
>your move McDonalds and Wendys!
They don't even know who this is.

>>56482073
Lmao comeback when he can provide endorsements, sponsorships, and connections to the biggest corps for his talents.

>>56482271
Good publicity. Idol Corp lets their talents design their models and will now make their contracts public knowledge. They have positioned themselves as the corpo that cares about their vtubers which is the opposite of Hololive and Nijisanji.

>>56482073
Always remember that this man named his agency Idol despite having no idols in it, and having women who drink their piss instead.

>>56482682
>drink their piss
Based

>>56482271
it hurts other corpos
>>56482563
cool it with the anti-semitic remarks

>>56482585
I don't think it really impacts Holo much as we have a vague idea their contracts are much much better than Anycolor's, I think that's the real aim here is it's a guaranteed zing on niji and also any other small corpos that have shit practices or at least suspected to (such as kawaii).

The other large-small corpo is Phase and I suppose that could be the main target but I don't recall if we know how good the Phase girls have it for percentages.

>>56482271
No one can accuse them of being a black company or screwing the girls if the contracts favor the talents it also pressure the other companies creating a better competitive environment. This isn't a shot at Hololive by the way since the biggest complaint from shareholders is the contracts are to favorable and they should give talents less of a cut also order of scale. Hololive is so big even with a bad contract a talent is doing very well vs saaaaay Nijisanji who this is really aimed at who has been playing a game of trying to gobble up and and all talents they can.

The Jew isn't fighting Cover he is fighting Anykara and Phase Connect who are in his weight class.

>>56482677
Why no 3D concerts if he truly cares about the talents?

>>56482653
>food analogy

Maybe it is my old antisemitism, but I just don't believe they are making money, I don't see the return on investment coming.

Everyone knows Nijisanji doesn't pay in merch sales and has no debut funds. Also, I'm pretty sure idol isn't a publicly trading company so it's not much skin off his back.

>>56482801
they're not, he said it himself that idol isnt profitable, they're not even breaking even
he just has infinite money from jewish investors

>>56482449
For who? Are you going to watch Idol girls because of this? He'll get stray le based replies under the tweet, and then that's about it.

>>56482876
that came straight from your rectum

>>56482801
Aviel did reveal that idol was not making money at all. The profit they did earn was spent on ads.

>>56482073
Fucking Jew, always good at manipulating and it's working.
>>56482467
By not holding back. Start the forth Reich kiwawa

>>56482563
>>56482876
>>56482971
They said they recently raised a seed investment, so investors. And they said they're in the green and profitable since May.

>>56482682
>>56482738
Hololive did it, Hololive did it

>>56482876
What is even his endgame if he's not making money? Propaganda? Fun? Future return in investment?

>>56482563
Based.

>>56482993
subversion

>>56482073
nice job saving ad money, jew-san

>>56483027
As always. We need to gatekeep harder.

>>56482563
shut it down

>>56482905
happy cows produce more milk, anon
and being known as the company that is open and transparent it's always a good thing
not to mention scouting and acquiring talents in general

>>56482073
>that filename
actual israel timezone lmao

>>56483126
looks like finland's timezone to me anon

>vtuber company starts out in the red, running off investor money
>:(
>vtuber company starts out in the red, running off investor money, except that vtuber company is hololive
:)

>>56482993
I guess managing a Vtuber agency is just fun for him.

>>56483119
What's the use of being open and transparent if it couldn't make the talents wealthy and happy?

>>56482073
>Believing the goys
Wasn't there evidence of this guy doing shady shit

>>56483173
>WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE POOR INVESTORS!!!!!!!!!!!

>>56483197
>if it couldn't make the talents wealthy and happy
anon I don't know how to tell you this but these women make more money than you just by playing games 2 hours a day (sometimes less)

>>56482073
>Your move yagoo
If you join holo, YOU ARE MILLIONAIRE AND YOU CAN LIVE OF STREAMING, that's the only thing you and everyone know and the only thing that you need to know

>>56483173
>hololive talents are poor
fuck outta here

>>56482993
He sees the chance to give the coup de grace to one of his competitors and he is going all in

>>56483173
See the problem is one company became so profitable it became a golden ticket for all their talents and raised their state in life... the other promised all this and then went out of business leaving the girls no where to go but indie, get poached by another small company or pray they luck into the first company I mentioned, and the management was to trash that talents have literal PTSD having to basically be a stand in manager for the other talents.

>>56483282
Lmao why attack me?
Do you have proof that these talents are wealthy cause I know for a fact that he already mismanaged at least a generation.

>>56483282
Look up their Playboards. It's like just Rin and Yuko that makes any money. Everyone else would be better off working in McDonald's.

>>56482271
This will cement Idol as the number two go-to EN corpo Period. Holorejects will make Idol their second choice over NijiEN (and possibly VSPO EN)

>>56482993
He's Jewish I'm not going to question his business acumen so long as Poko can be happy and stream then all is well.

>>56482073
Those two don’t give a shit about some small corpo.
Who this is actually targetting is the other small corpos to use as a potential poaching tactic.

>>56482769
Imagine phase revealing Yuri's contract.

>>56483454
>playboard
retard

>>56482782
Because Idol is based out of Israel

>>56483467
Baruch HaShem

>>56483282
did he even produce at least one successful girl on the levels of hololive and nijisanji?

>>56482653
> so imagine a burger

OHHH NOOO PHASEBROS WE GOT TOO COCKY

>>56483337
great reading comprehension, idiot

>idol announces 50/50 cut
>happily run towards yours 50%
>by jewish law, if you bargaining for 50%, then another half automatically goes to the other side
>in the end sitting with 25 cut minus taxes

>>56482073
>A jew wanting the goy to reveal their secrets
Lol, lmao. I may not like Any Color and like COVER but I pray they don't fall for this jewish shit test.

>>56483454
You are not wrong. Katta still needs to work at a day job andd can't afford to pay rent just by streaming.

>>56483454
Supah numbers aren't legit the girls encourage their fans to use Streamelements with extra services like TTS and they put more focus on memberships. Viewership yeah I can see that for sure.

>>56482789
Food service analogy althoughbeit

>>56483587
your baits won't work, retard

>>56482769
So a 100 dollar with 40% talent remuneration is better than 100k with 30% talent remuneration. The state of dumbass on this site.

>>56482769
That's bullshit.
100% sure their talents will still be signing a NDA and will still be forbidden to talk about many other things.
This is all PR

>>56483563
>on the levels of hololive and nijisanji
arbitrary metric that brings nothing to the discussion
a>b doesn't imply that a is small

>>56483517
Anon noticed the trick, good for him.

>>56483282
Delusional underagedb&

>>56482073
AIEEEEEEE
My yacht fund!!!

How is this in any way a bad thing?

>>56483197
I hope you never get a top position anywhere

>>56482073
OYYYYYYY VEYYYYYYYYYYY

>>56483218
He didn't pay for the artist work until she called him out.

>>56483173
rent free

>>56483119
How does revealing what the talents are paid make the talents happier you retard? How does it affect them at all?

>>56483711
/vt/ said so.

>>56483699
>inb4 Nijisanji takes the bait because they can't help themselves

>>56483711
It makes Anycolor interns worried that they're going to lose more potential 2-3view females to Idol.

>>56482073
Since he open a can of worm, then he need to show all of it including streamlab and any other monetization hole they hiding with every penny counts

>>56482563
Oyy anon, it came from his savings ok?

aight if it's 50:50 after youtube then i might consider a jew oshi

>>56482073
All I can see him is saying that a newcomer will get same benefits no matter what the previous gens achieved. Fuck you too, Jew.

>>56483467
How does the percentage cut matter when they have no income?

>>56482073
I'm not even a /pol/fag but I don't trust this guy at all. feels like he's constantly trying to sell me something and I'm tired of the shiori tranny ads

You can't build a profitable corporation out of virtue signaling
Where are the numbers, the fans and customers?

>>56483856
They are damned if they do and damned if they don't, that's why he is going all in.

>>56482073
Kawaii production
Phase Connect
Prism project
EIEN

BTFO

>>56483700
>shills trying to present jewcorp is a better company
>has nothing to show for it
>i-it doesn't count
cope

>>56484224
He's funded by the Israeli government to push pro-zionist movements to the western audiences. You're in the right for not trusting this slop.

>>56482073
>negotiate a better share
>company discloses this to your colleagues and peers
>resentment ensues
But no I'm sure this will be great and work out in every talent's favor

>>56483772
their angle is being the talent friendly company, they wouldn't do this if their talents had shit cuts or if they were unhappy in general
also by presenting themselves as a company that is good to their talents they are effectively giving the girls more leverage as being called out would affect them more

>>56484075
If he said it's 60/40 or more, he might be looking good. 50/50 is what Phase pays, give or take few percent due to individual negotiations.

B u y a n a d
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Enough of your jewish scheming shill campaign

>>56484503
buy an ad

>>56483711
/vt/chuds are just antisemitic incels. You think why their favorite company is holo(((caust))) live

>>56482271
>>56482073
It's complete bullshit you idiots
they can say XXX XXXX and XXXX are the talent cuts but in reality the numbers on the contracts are something else
Unless, they actually show the scanned contract of at least one talent with a signature on it, there's no way to prove what he's going to tweet out is true.

>>56484382
>antisemite
>"What's the use of being open and transparent?"
ironic

>>56484541
antizionism isn't antisemitism
how much are they paying you to be retarded?

>>56484177
These jewshills don't care about the talents
Reminder that the jewcorp already killed the careers of 3 idol wannabes

>>56483711
for most vtubers nothing, for the vtubers who want to go corpo is a more open way to know where to go, but there is also the big chance that new people get "fucked" in a way with for example time based increases of pay put on contract for example, or you get a good cut of the merch but the older you are, the more merch you get and the newer you are, the less merch you get.

Also, there is the small chance that this all goes to shit, and he gets called out for abuse or something like that which would make me lol

>>56484075
Why would you suddenly decide to support some girl if you didn't care about her in the first place?

kek Aviel got them really nervous now.

>>56484696
you can tell they are posting in the thread kek

>>56482073
>lets their talents do whatever they want despite being an idol company
>no males
>fully funds all their talents' streaming setups and lets them design their own models
>no males
>transparent about the company's contracts
>no males
wtf, /pol/ told me jews were evil but aviel seems like a good dude. did 4chan lie to me?

>>56484591
>ad hominem
it's simple, anon. show us the successful talents that this jewcorp produced and i'll support your jew boss.

>>56482563
OY VEY!

>>56484451
This doesn't answer the question. How does it make the talents happier?
> they are effectively giving the girls more leverage as being called out would affect them more
what the fuck are you babbling about

>>56482073
Buy an ad

>>56482073
>irl vs vtuber
>Hey look, we show out face online and support those small creator now you as a big boy play on your own rule need to lower yourself and be like us, the useless and annoying one
Same energy itt

>>56484696
>jew shills got called out
>i-i bet they are nervous right now
cope

>>56484820
>no males
>over half their talents already had boyfriend yabs
lol
lmao even

>>56482682
That's been talked about by Origin members but one of the original plans for Idol to was hard enforce the idol route, going as far as banning swearing but they backed off from it. They were also originally planning to put in place a "Hebrew language only" rule for HE.
It's better that they didn't because the company wouldn't have survived.

>>56484975
you're so nervous.

>>56484986
it's unrealistic to expect women to not have boyfriends. you're retarded if you actually believe your oshi's lies as anything other than kayfabe.

>>56484566
>there no way to prove what hes going to tweet out is true
that doesnt matter people will believe he was as law because vtuber companies have somehow managed to make people think they are nice people and not corporate suits. even if a vtuber is getting less money then he says they are because of contract stuff people will think the person is just a hater spreading lies

>>56485094
you got me. i fear your 2views.

>>56483711
Phasefags are mad

how about you make some transparent titties you hack.

>>56482073
>"Idol" corp
>Most subbed talent is the biggest homobegger in the western hemisphere
>3rd most subbed talent makes fun of idol culture and did a male collab immediately after getting unicorn money on a donathon
Love to see it.

>>56483711
It's not. I just don't understand how virtue signalling has become a good thing now if it's done by the Jews.

>>56485276
take one peek into their thread and you'll see them all seething kek, it's fucking pathetic

>>56483454
>>56484177
>>56483337
Youtube earnings in month and a half, while at least 60% of their revenue is from streamelements that isnt counted here.

They earn well.

>>56482905
For the talent and applicants, you smooth-brain retard

>>56485167
>it's unrealistic to expect women to not have boyfriends
https://streamable.com/o8aomg

>>56485503
You guys are bragging about this shit? That's like an hour of sc income from a new Holo talent...

>>56485503
>not even as much as 1% of streamers
heh, they would do better flipping burgers

>>56482563
Oh nononono. Bad goyim

>>56485167
>pomu poster
>absolutely retarded

Another PR
What's next? Gonna make the girls unicorn friendly?

>>56485658
tell me your oshi so i can laugh at you

>>56484820
>false advertise as an idol company
>spend a little extra on setups, cut costs on bigger expenses
>virtue signal
No one is buying your shilling you sniveling jew faggot

>>56482677
>Hololive doesn't care about their talents

I'm not a tribalfag and I know that's just bullshit. Sure, the leash is tight but they wouldn't get this far if they didn't had a care

>>56485503
LMAO
jewshills, you guys can't be serious...
being an indie holo adjacent is more desirable than joining your jewcorp

>>56485687
They already are. Much more so than Hololive.

>>56485733
An unfortunately large number of retards here have, sadly.

>>56485618
>>56485641
>>56485793
whats your point? obviously they are a small corpo and not hololive. But they are way better than phase connect for example.

>>56483119
This doesn't make their talents happier. It makes everyone with a worse cut miserable because now they know someone else is doing better. As it is, with every corporation's contract hidden behind an audition, nobody knows if they are getting a good deal because they can't compare offers between different companies. You only get to see the one you got hired for and hope they aren't blacker than black.

Looking at it favorably, this is a push for transparency between all companies; which would encourage competitive cuts and help ensure talents aren't getting fucked over. Less favorably, it's a ploy to get talents in other small corpos pissed about the deals they are getting. Which make it easier for Idol to poach the talents they want, while leaving the dregs miserable and therefore producing worse content for their companies. Idol gets what it wants and everyone else is left with unhappy cows producing spoiled milk.

>>56485503
>being a Holo or Niji clipper earns more than these jew shitters kek

>>56485807
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>boyfriend
>boyfriend
>collabs with boyfriend
>blacked
>boyfriend
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>56482073
That's cute but have any of your lazy whores actually do any of the donothon goals?

What kind of fan would seethee at the CEO being upfront about how much their oshi does/will make?

>>56485733
>spend a little extra on setups, cut costs on bigger expenses
reminder that Kiara didn't even have a working PC for streaming the first 6 months of her career. if it was so easy why didn't Hololive support her?
I've never watched an idol stream but supporting your talents with standardized streaming equipment goes a long way to improving the quality of your content. it becomes very easy to offer tech support and training if everyone is using the same gear.

>>56485618
>>56485641
>>56485793
Holy retards. They make most of their donations through stream labs.

>>56485950
>fans
its obvious shills doing damage control

>>56485872
Look at the OP Jew bro.
Next time tell your guys to stop baiting for holo/niji if you can't take the heat.

>>56486066
>your guys

its just catalogfags

This is his worst decision yet. Once nijis see what they could be making he'll have a mob of greedy far-left subversives knocking on his door looking for a cut. Next gen will be full of rotten cunts with familiar voices.

You guys are calling him a jew, but who is the one hiding financial information?

>>56485884
retard

>>56482073
>Your move yagoo/riku
This is aimed to small and medium corpos, not for the big ones

>>56482073
Why so many ads for this shit?

>>56482073
the more idol talks, the more jewish the corpo looks

>>56486161
Good thing they actually do research and scouting before they hire. They don't look at big NOOMBER and hire like niji or holo.

>>56485986
I don't watch Kiara so I'm not sure exactly how you're twisting facts, but she was clearly fucking streaming fine in her first 6 months so I'm not buying your pilpul, kike.

>>56482073
Do we really need to know how much of Niji's earnings goes to the yacht?

>>56486121
/jidf/ isn't even talking about this. Maybe more idol fans watch streams instead of arguing in 4chan?

>>56486226
This move unironically hurts Niji more than it does any of the smaller corpos I feel like. Niji is gonna get a shitstorm of tweets harassing their profit splits

>>56486298
Bijou is struggling to even run streams. You would think they would send her a fucking start up PC to fucking stream.

>>56486163
It's a PR move, obviously he won't show stuff that's bad for him. He will only show what at glance looks good while hiding all the shady stuff

>>5648550
My faggot earns much more leeching off of Holo/Niji than your jew whores

>>56482073
EIEN BLACK COMPANY

>>56486350
Oh yeah, all 12 of Avi's shills will grill Niji so hard. You really cornered them now.

>>56486297
If Aviel hires Enna or Millie, fuck him. No one wants those trash whores.

>>56486415
If he shows only the good stuff then its already a thousand percent better than anyone else out there on the market.

>>56486415
I dunno man he's been pretty straightforward so far. I have no reason to doubt him other than >le jew

>>56486406
>being stupid enough to not see that this is good SC bait fuel
Mori was a pro at this at debut

>>56486435
Funny. Didn't this faggot get paid to shill idol EN's first gen?

>>56486565
>lie of omission is good
How the fuck do you defend this, retard

>>56486565
>>56486584
>3₪ has been deposited to your account

>>56486611
>C-can I get a good PC to start off with?
>nah just bait them into giving you money

Nice company you got there holoshart.

>>56485986
Kiara is already fully geared before she even become hololive anon
>>56486406
How the fuck being able to run elden fucking lean is struggling?

If you guys wanna go that way say the obvious talent like polka with her poltato PC or the entire holo Id first gen. Now you can call that struggling

>>56486298
NTA but more than her shit computer, her audio on debut and a while after was absolutely fucking horrible, and while she did technically stream fine, it went a long way to her being the runt of her gen. She needed to have fucking Mori send her a spare microphone and they had to figure out how to get it sounding halfway decent themselves.

>>56486406
Bijou had a problem with ONE Elden Ring stream because the Live2D was using all her resources before OBS got a taste. She fixed it by changing OBS to be higher priority, and she's currently streaming the same game RIGHT NOW perfectly fine. You would know that if you actually watched streams on the things you talk about instead of spreading disinfo on imageboards.

>>56486733
Rent free faggot. You're doing the exact same thing for grifter central. How's that shiori hire you got there holoshart? Already taking a long break?

>>56486932
Jewbro the only talent you have that hits 4 views is a homobeggar leech...what the fuck are you on about???

>>56486663
>shit I made up in my head cuz jews

the shofar is howling, you know greatness is coming for all nations.

>>56486932
Shiori~n's brand is much more valuable than the entirety of your jewcorp, shill.

>>56486856
No. She's the runt of her gen because her voice and kraut personality appeal to a smaller audience. That's it. All you're proving is that you're full of shit, to no one's surprise.

>>56482991
Jeffrey Epstein had plenty of "investors" too, ya know

>>56487028
Idol doesn't even have homos so I don't even think about them as much as you do. Still better then hiring grifters.

Contract transparency is >LE BAD

>>56487033
I didn't make up your post you schizo. >>56486565

>>56487146
I said it went a long way to making it the case, not that it was the exclusive reason. I was there for the debuts faggot, and I know how offputting her mic situation was.

>>56486535
Gen 2 got thousands of applications which they filtered through to find 3 great girls (the other 2 were scouted), one of which even was a well known name in the small corp sphere. At this point I trust those guys to know how to hire, and god knows they'll need to keep up with that ability to filter through garbage with a third EN gen and a Spanish gen in the horizon.

>>56482073
good pr, but will probably be a convenient lie till they need to restructure during contract renegotiations. Also just dangerous for the talents to have a publicly trackable value counter over their heads.

>>56487111
Oh it's so exciting to know she'll start a fucking book club. How on brand and interesting kek

>>56486932
Rich coming from fans of that jew homobeggar whose claim to fame is leeching off Gura.

>>56487204
>Still better than hiring grifters
Anon your reps...The piss drinker and the clown are two of the biggest fucking grifters this side of the Mississippi.

>>56487204
>we're le unicorn idol company
>biggest talent is a homobeggar
>talents aren't idols
Your whole company is a grift, schlomo

>>56487393
this is how you spot a phasecuck pippiger

>>56487223
Virtue signalling is good because >JEWS ARE THE CHOSEN VICTIMS

>>56482563
Oy vey, the goyim is waking up. shut it down

>>56482991
>they said
That's nice, but it's not transparency

>>56484566
if he tells bald-faced lies the talents will probably call him out on it or directly or subtly.

>>56487368
>>56487393
>>56487399
>streams going on
>shitposts on jew bait

Holo "fans" everybody.

>>56487622
>jew gets called out
>deflects
Like kikework

Hololive is dead in the water if they don't respond to this. Aviel has balls of steel for making this move and watching you fags seethe is such a beautiful sight.

>>56485618
Yeah, and? Everyone knows HoloEN is the big prize. But besides them, there’s NijiEN, which is a shitshow, and a bunch of small corpos, many of which are run by idiots who don’t know what they’re doing.
Idol is trying to stand out among those companies, in order to attract applicants. Who all already know getting into HoloEN is like winning the lottery, and just as realistic too.

>>56487622
>jew shill gets called out
>cry
seethe jewshill

>>56484566
>lie about something that will be immediately discovered as a lie by anyone who tries joining
retard

>>56482993
future return obviously. anyone expecting to make money in the short term on a startup is either planning to rugpull or is too retarded to run a business

>>56487622
>t.ASSBLASTED

>>56487683
>>56487729
Do you retards just bite every bait? How lonely and soulless are your lives kek

>>56487519
I fucking hate nazi holofans like you. 12 billions Jews died in the holocaust and you can't deny it. I even heard how they separated children from parents in polish death camps. Then they would force kids to climb the utility pole and touch the electric wire to meet their parents.. The Jewish child then would get shocked to death, it's unbelievable but it did happen, you antisemitic piece of shit

>>56487713
>jewshills bait holo fans
>jewcorp gets called out for being jews
>jewshills deflect
Yeah, next time choose your opponents properly, jewbro.

>>56487701
please tell me how this would hurt Hololive then

>>56487602
NTA, but they aren't gonna break NDA to whistleblow. Small corpo vtubers don't have a nest egg to live off of once they get blacklisted by the industry. I'm not saying Idol *would* lie, but if they did they would probably get away with it. It would be a terrible idea for a different reason. It would kill talent motivation if the company decided that you should be worth X, but they are only gonna pay you Y behind the scenes.

>>56482769
you are a complete retard if you think idol is any closer to anycolor or nijisanji

>>56488003
nice try phasecuck

>>56487947
How does that shit matter now?

>>56488003
This is why it's hard to even start up in this market. Like a thousands of the worst holo fans that shit on everything.

>>56487768
If they're so much better and more talent friendly than the other corpos why don't they release the whole contract tomorrow too instead of releasing it at a later date? Could it be that they're making changes to it to make themselves look better? Could they be having the talents sign NDAs to avoid talking about these changes? Who knows.

>>56487701
I don't think hololive even knew the existence of this Jew anon.

>>56487768
NDA

I really wonder what some anons smoke when they think those EN agencies are even close to Nijisanji. any look at their numbers shows the massive difference

>>56482073
How does it help vtubers make more informed decisions? Shouldn't it have been the viewers that make more informed decisions?

>>56488222
He doesn't even talk about idol anon he only hate jews

Funny that nobody is mentioning niji

ITT

>>56488477
Ctr+F niji
>1/21
If that's not enough for you then have some more
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>>56488406
This is the turning point anon, when Aviel releases the profit splits Niji fans will flock to Idol to finally support a company that puts their talent's first.

>>56482073
>A literal Jew is less of a Jew than FAGOO and Riku
Can't make this shit up.
Your move Holobronies/Nijibronies?

>>56488759
Is it me or does it look like anycolor is abandoning nijiEN?

>>56485618
What about NijiEN, Phase, Kawaii Sony etc?

>>56482271
Only worked to attack small corpor or recruiting indie.
No effect on big corpor like Brave, Anykara, Cover, etc

>>56488780
Well from just observing things Hololive girls look to be well off. Even if they do get shafted it's still like getting 1/3 of a million dollars. Niji though is like fighting for absolute scraps.

>>56485754
They wouldn't have so many fights over redesigns in hololive and holostars unless there were problems with management not letting vtubers have any creative input. Idol Corp is a tiny company but their talents can design their own models. Cover has more than enough resources to offer the same but they simply don't care.

>>56488780
>called Yagoo a fag
>called Riku by his name
Who could be behind this post? Truly a mystery. On an unrelated note, no small corpo has a cut worse than 2%.

>>56482449
Dumb move from business perspective, he's treating Idol as a 2 year project.

>>56489273
because the character is created before the hiring process. watch streams

>>56489273
Then how would the chuuni board of directors live out their OC's through streamers?

come home selen.

>>56488759
Most nijisanji fans dont even know what the fuck idol en is.

>>56489632
no wonder niji is in the state it is.

>>56489444
I mean that's a given. However Kiara had input on her model before it was finalized. It's not all bad.

come home gura

>>56487768
retard

>>56489609
What would Selen even do for her model if she joined Idol? Ditch the whole dragon shtick?

>>56485503
Even a groomer 2view make more than these

>>56489778
she can be whatever she wants to be, idol lets the girls choose the model and even the artists.

>>56482073
the strats are real

>trusting a Jew to not be doing this for subversive bullshit later
Hope you’re happy when the big 2 don’t give a shit and they just end up poaching all the other smaller Corpos before they’re the only ones left and then tighten the screw like a true member of God’s Chosen People

If the deal is actually good for the talents then its honestly going raise even more questions about how profitable this corpo actually is. With all the accelerating I don’t know how Idol actually makes money.

>>56485503
Base yt cut
>11508-30%=8055.6
>8055.6/6=1342.6
Outside America yt cut
>11508-24%=8746.08
>8746.08/6=1457.68
Idol possible cut
>1457.68-20%=1166.144
>1342.6-20%=1074.08
With an 80/20 split towards the talent (hololive/niji is 50%) Roca is making 1-1.2k a week on superchats. The others are around 5-600 a week on superchats. There’s still members and ad rev though it’s nothing crazy. I doubt they work 8 hours so it’s definitely better than flipping burgers but if anything Aviel has said about cost is a lie then they’d make more working at McDonalds

>>56489632
Didn't some niji sexpest come into roco karaoke once or twice, i think i saw them.

>>56488759
NijiEN fans don't care about the well-being of their livers. They turn on them at the drop of a hat. If you want NijiEN fans to flock to Idol then Aviel just needs to do one thing. The company(not the talents) needs to make more money than Hololive. That's it. That's all they care about.
Just pray Aviel doesn't try to poach any NijiEN talents. The only profitable ones are Enna and the males. And he wouldn't be poaching the males.

>>56489820
They make more in stream labs. It's not posted there.

>>56485503
Top one is 11.5k, youtube takes 30% so 8k. Assuming Idols cut is 0% (extremely unlikely) that’s 8k for a month and a half or 1.3k a week before taxes. Keep in mind their earnings were massively frontloaded so their per week earnings will keep dropping. If Idol takes anymore than 20% post YouTube then she’s averaging sub 1k a week. VoD numbers are 4 digit so won’t be earning too much from those. Membership is unknown but even if I’m very very generous and assume 1000 members all paying the U.S rate of 5 bucks a month and Ariel takes nothing after YouTube’s cut that’s maybe an extra 3.5k a month so maybe 2k a week pretax for the best earner in a fantasy scenario where Aviel is effectively earning nothing at all from her while plowing god knows how much cash into ads.

>>56482073
>Luring in chuubas with promise of MONEY instead of community/technical and legal support/idol dream/promotion and exposure.
I expected nothing less from jews.

>>56488759
>Niji fans will flock to Idol
we don't want them. Rosemi can maybe come over. Rosebuds are generally chill I think.

>>56490163
Aviel does all of those things. You see one thing that affirms your confirmation bias because you're low IQ though

>>56490163
how do other corpos lure vtubers then, with funny jokes?

Yeah, transparent just like Hollywood accounting

>>56482585
PLEASE people learn "declining". I cannot stand to see reclining used one more time

>heh, only 52k/y (not counting streamlabs) by playing games in your room, might as well become a burger flipper

>>56490032
All of that math and you didn't even think that they make MOST donations through stream labs. It's fucking spammed in their chats constantly.

>>56490304
holy newfag

>>56490032
They are doing better then one would think at a glance. Otherwise they wouldn't be expanding to ES and EN3.

>>56487768
>the manager said it's this but it's actually-
>NDA lawsuit.

>>56482563
Good point.
Well, idolshills? Your response?

>>56488759
Yah nah, i don't need to watch a bunch of grifter using monetization as an owned, i spend more on pomu vp as a mean of supporting her.

>>56490304
>people use a term wrong on purpose as a meme
>ESLs learn that term and start using it without knowing it's a meme
Personally Ilose my shit every single time so I hope they continue being retarded forever, it's even better when they're making a serious post

>>56490013
They’ve hired 16 talents I believe and based on their spending I don’t even think they’ve covered initial costs yet even with an awful deal for talents

>>56490460
you're just jealous your public company is worthless, no one buys the stock, not even the dip.

>>56490163
>hey we offer great benefits!

Like any other fucking job on the planet?

>>56490450
nda is not a magic word, retard
suing a talent over calling them out would only make them look blacker

>>56485522
But this whore have a boyfriend/husband and even have a kid. Iron mouse is the same and Manners too. Even the Hololive whores and Nijisanji. All vtubers female and male are whores married or normies with have boyfriend husband or girlfriends.

>>56483711
Other corpo shills can't comprehend that their ceo isn't a saint and could be low balling the vtubers.

>>56490414
>infinite Jewish Goblin Gold to be subversive cunts
Can’t be that.

>>56490414
Anon they have a blank check from jewish funding, of course they're going to continue to expand. I'm surprised they're going into ES though...you'd think jews would recognize that fishing for more ARS superchats isn't worth the investment

>>56482271
It's just transparency. There's really no need to hide this stuff unless you're being shady as shit. It's good for donators to know exactly where their money is going to so it sets them at ease, and for future talents

>>56482563
This, if you want to say how good your company are, you might aswell reveal every nook and cranny.

This is only bad for NijiEN and their bots already panic.

>>56482563
Don't forget to include your government fund

I don't have any horse in this race I just wanted to say that it's funny as hell how people are already going "IT'S A LIE" before he even says anything

>>56490667
>>56490679
>THEY ARE RICH BEYOND BELIEF FUCKING JEWS
>HAHAHA LOOK AT THEIR SUPER CHATS FUCKING PEASANTS!

Holy fuck. Pick something and run with it.

>>56485872
No way she earned 60 bucks

>>56482993
>he's not making money
But he is making money, he's just re-investing it back into his venture unlike black companies that just pocket the money and die out in a year. this is how a company that starts from scratch should be run. you start investing everything into the company until you get big then you can start easing up a bit

>>56490163
Yes Pippa is just doing it for the community, Idol dream and exposure and not the fucking money.
Idol already promise them the other stuff you mention, like any other small corpo.

This place has truly gone to the fucking dogs when people starting defending and liking this fucking Jew corp.
I bet op is Aviel himself like he's been shown to be posting here before.

>>56482991
Just publish the company quarterly performance report then if they want to be transparent with us.

>>56490821
>it’s a Jew
Almost as certain as the sun having risen this morning, it is never wholly true.

>>56490821
just think who would be angry about something like this and you would understand why they are so desperate in their posts

>>56482398
this made me laugh hard, thanks

>>56482801
It's a startup. Any new business trying to be anything more than a local mom and pop shop is run by incompetent monkeys if they're not running at a loss using investor money to expand as hard as possible before the business opportunity they identified disappears.

>>56487223
Neck yourself basedjak faggots. You are glowniggers pedophiles.

>>56490696
Does holoEN and nijiEN do this?

>>56491133
>pedophilia is... LE BAD

>>56482563
I genuinely dont care if they are funded by child eating lizard people or whatever.
I just want to watch cunny, man.

>>56491208
Well some stuff got leaked. So no but yes. Hololive makes most of their revenue through merch while it's the exact opposite for Nij.

>>56491238
Based. Let the haters hate.

>>56490937
Anti-semitism has been part of vt culture since ancient times?

>>56490620
Yes I’m sure people would care about that

>>56490881
The talents' stream incomes are mediocre. The company doesn't need to course correct though, because they have infinite funding from Jewish investors. Are you familiar with the concept of a "loss leader"? That's what Idol is. They are bleeding money to buy market share in the hopes it might pay off later. Normally, a startup can't do something like this but, again, infinite funding. That's how they can afford to do batshit crazy ideas like make a branch catering to poverty-stricken countries.

>>56491238
This. Most of the corp is cunny, with models chosen by the talents themselves, so they get my respect. Them being well-managed means those talents are happy so it makes me happy too.

>>56491238
Love all the talent since they all are cunny but hate the fact that it's runs by Jews. Such confusing choice

>>56491237
Yes it is. Lolicon is only good if is fake. I don't want real children like you. Jewish sick fucks.

>>56489707
Only a bit, she was able to request minor changes but that's it

>>56491342
So, the next step is to make profitable merch, or make their idols merchandisable. With the next Adpocalypse, they will need it.

Wait so the people who are seething are just numberfags mad at how they cracked the shorts algorithm?

>>56491627
Most of them are fans of Hololive too. They just want to live the dream of being a vtuber.

>>56482563
I couldn't care if he stole the money from santa claus, or the mossad as long as the talents are treated well. Money comes from israeli start-up funds, investers, his own savings and sponserships. If he runs at a loss that's his problem and I don't care as long as he treats the talents well.

>>56491572
>people wouldn't care whether a corpo is black or not

>>56491702
I'd buy shirts or any apparel from them. Not really a fan of acrylic crap.

>>56490821
Well you would scrap your NDA and let your talents show their contracts if you want transparency.

>>56491969
Doesn't it take like court hearings and shit to undo NDA contracts? Why bother. Just write a new one when the other expires.

>>56491931
I want either plushies or figures. Dakimakuras are good, too.

>>56485754
They abuse their talents and their cuts are pathetic for how little the company does to help the talents.

>>56491969
>they do as promised and reveal the contract at the end of the year
>people ask the talents if it's true
>they say yes
>FUCK YOU YOU'RE LYING

>>56482073
This man is one shrewd business man. Mad respect. I can only pray for his continued success.

>>56491931
Buying vtuber merch is cringe, it's always the lowest quality garbage which you pay a 800% mark up on.

>>56492354
I don't mind buying merch. I have a nerd room I can store most of it in anyways.

>>56490696
Multiple reasons to hide it but there’s only 1 reason to show your hand. You know for a fact you’re offering better than the competition which means information that shouldn’t be public is being shared and that’s a lawsuit at the very least.

>>56492228
What do you mean? 2% is more than enough

>>56492228
Where's your companies concerts? 3D lives? The trips to Japan?

>>56489444
And it sucks

>>56491784
rejects of Hololive*

>>56491893
>If he runs at a loss that's his problem
This can become your problem eventually if expanding like this doesn’t pay off, this whole thought process is so short sighted.
>hey aren’t you curious how this corpo even manages to turn a profit?
>just don’t worry about it.

>>56491930
>3D fully paid for, growing steadily, had the first en live, and bought by a relatively big Japanese IP company
Yes people don’t care

>>56492944
all of those things were arranged before the gen3 fiasco

>>56492228
Even someone like iofi is being treated the same as theirs big guns anon. Please stop pulling out shit outta your ass

>>56492083
Yea but realistically they would just have to not act on it same way Cover only fired Rushia and didn’t sue her.

>>56492257
Schizo

Remember Talent Freedom
Remember Vshojo

>>56493213
you forgot the bait, anon

what makes neets such good businessmen?

>>56482271
Because they're a sockpuppet from some larger media conglomerate with infinite pockets whose goal is not to become profitable but to control as much market share as possible and leverage their control to push indies and other corps out of the market. They're going to say that their percentages are something absolutely insane like 90/10 and also the talent are unionized and the corp pays all the fees, and while people like OP will be saying "wow based" people like me will be saying "they plan to hemorrhage money on both shills and noncompetitive business practice until Nijisanji and Hololive play ball with some kind of backroom deal".

>>56490450
Yeah so lying to future applicants about the rev share and all talents playing along because "NDA" is more reasonable than them being honest.

>>56492639
To keep someone around? Yes, but to keep them happy you need at leat 3%

>>56493213
What about it anon?

>>56492666
The "practice" for those concerts is where the abuse happens. I'd rather not have that.

>>56493194
>Even someone like iofi is being treated the same as theirs big guns anon.
Why isn't she getting the same number of 3D lives and origonal songs with popular srtists like Marine? The treatment isn't equal at all.

>>56493472
Man holo "fans" sure love making shit up inside their heads. I guess the bigger the fanbase the more schizos.

>>56490163
>Offering a good benefits package is...le bad!
Found the Niji intern.

>>56490734
oh no what panic. im sure en members will quit to join a much smaller agency.

>>56492666
Are you talking about Niji? They’ve had a lot this year.

>>56482073
Hell yeah, I don't know anything about Idol corp but I wish everyone did this, just because I'm curious

>>56493609
im a vshojo fan, i'm just also a /pol/ poster and I've seen this song and dance before across multiple industries. I believe anyone from /a/ should recognize it well enough.

>>56492909
It'll never become my problem, anon. I don't concernfag/numberfag.
I'm watching the talents have fun and enjoying their work. If something happens it's their problem, but they are contractors, they can just leave if the company fails with everything the company have gifted them, like the model and equipment, if anything he owns them money later and that's not my problem.
There are worse, far worse companies out there, if you just look into the abyss of failed vtuber group start-ups and black companies.

>>56482993
So he can sell the company to a bigger company and run away with the money.

>>56485872
Comparing the highest performing against the lowest Phase. Nicely down now show the IdolHE stats.

>>56495931
>highest performing
I showed all gen 2 what are you smoking

>>56493590
idk if idol will release merch cuts but vshojo already revealed the stream profits are 100% for the sreamer, would be fun to compare with every stat like merch/sponsors cut but i don't think it will happen

>>56482801
>>56492909
It's a vtuber company. The start up and upkeep cost is pretty cheap.

>>56496838
Upkeep yes. Start up absolutely not.

>>56482563
oh no no no no

>>56482993
>Propaganda
/pol/ might say yes to this one, but I disagree. They haven't shown any attempts at brainwashing the masses, even slightly, so far. Unless /pol/ wants to claim that Yuko drinking piss is a conspiracy to undermine the morality of the west(kek).
>Future return in investment
Probably this one. You see how Idol is now a well-known corporation despite not even existing two years ago? Normally a company would have to work from the ground up, but that's not the case if you have unlimited funding from the start. He bought his way into being a player in the industry. You can start bringing in big money after you get popular. It's getting to that point that's hard. It's like playing a management sim, but using cheat engine to give yourself a bunch of money at the start. He basically skipped the early game and moved straight to midgame now. All the investment money he's spent will more than pay for itself if he can get the company to even a quarter of the size of Cover or Anycolor. It's only a matter of time before he starts turning a profit. Because he has the funds to get there and the entertainment industry isn't going anywhere.

>>56485872
Stop using my wemi to shitpost. I will hunt you down you piece of shit

>>56496969
Compared to an actual business it is. 5k a model? 25k is going to cover like 90% of costs unless you're hiring managers which is more of a later thing.

>>56484820
You see, That is your problem
You belive in /Pol/

>>56493605
I am talking about their recent holo summer event you retard she got to be in the music video and 3D lives.
And talking about 3D this year iofi have 3 3D live 1. Her first 3d 2. Holo id gen 1 3d Collab. And the summer Collab while senchou have 4 3d lives. Anniversary 3d, Showa 3d, music festival 3d, and that one with umisea. That is not a lot of different.

And I know you're a newfag. As Matsuri sama said having original song is your own choice to have so that simply means senchou is more active at producing than iofi.
Honestly why the fuck I argue with someone that never watch hololive

>>56485877
obiously in exchnge they loss their chance to go black, as having it public put you at a standard, you have to met said standard or be outed as a scamer who just say shit.
this would affect their revenue directly, so be prepared for shareholders to put pressure or someone inside try to change shit to get higher in the corpo lader sucking it up to greed.
movement is good
yet, keep an eye out

>>56486798
yea, both where streamer before joining, if their set up was bad is more on them or they try to gain simpathy.

>>56488081
ultimatly it would get out they lie
some people are very spitfull or care more about justice than their own monetary interes
that will be a torpedo tothe side
only way they will ensure silence is NDA, but even then would ultimatly get out

>>56490679
Es market is VERY viable
not in raw money like superchats BUT ADDS
Spanich countries are getting more public acces to internet, meaning Untap market, gett several millions to just watch and you can earn a size pasibly trought views on youtuve

The biggest miscalculation is thinking this is going to affect the JP market which is both of those companies primary market. Sure by disclosing splits you are potentially getting more motivated western applicants but most of them when streaming won't be going on beyond 3 views, maybe 4 if it's something like an outfit reveal stream. Most people who watch vtubers are weeabs and you're at most going to attract a couple lefties who think it's ethical. Oh wait, they refuse to hire men and trannies and tard control their talents so they don't collab with men.

This literally means nothing to nobody.

>>56500034 me
And after saying this I just noticed that Matsuri only have 1 original song while iofi have 2. Wtf Matsuri ? I am fucking sure money is not a problem here since she gets a alot more than iofi