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A thread for the Vampire survivors inspired Holo fan game

Link to download the game:
https://kay-yu.itch.io/holocure
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2420510/

HoloCure Twitter:
https://twitter.com/HoloCureGame
https://twitter.com/HoloCureDev

HoloCure wiki:
https://holocure.fandom.com/wiki/HoloCure_Wiki

Upcoming Streams:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEBAGq0cd58
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aomckVmDiLY

>> No.56373085
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No one was baking so I made one. Apparently you can get furnitures from fishing as well. I got a Fuuton out of it, unfortunately I was on auto-pilot mode and tap too quick so I couldn't get a screenshot.

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>Lore accurate Okayu gameplay.

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Ollie's Special doesn't do the cute little squeak for me that she did in all of the EA streams...

>> No.56373610

Pego got 500k with AZKi
https://twitter.com/usadapekora/status/1692505308034388271

>> No.56373612

Any beginner tips?

>> No.56373911

>>56373612
gacha for irys or reine and farm coins for upgrades / gacha. Will make your life easier

>> No.56374117 [SPOILER] 

>>56373612
Buy Irys first. Buy the weapon limit max so you only have 1 weapon. Play. Get Super Chhato Time. Get Greed Stamp, Solo Stamp, and the Usada stamp. Repeat. If you're tired of Irys, you can use Korone or Reine to farm gold. You'll be getting 60k gold at first, but after you upgrade money up, you can get 200k gold in one run.

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You're not a lucklet, right anon?

>> No.56374434

>>56373911
>>56374117
You really don't need to go crazy with coin farming anymore. The management system gets you so many fucking coins.

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They need to add level for Fishing and Farming as well. Also there need to be some kind of automation

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So what's the best endless build for IRyS

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Just letting you know, when Flare finally gets her character into this game she WILL complain.

>> No.56375748

>>56374570
Why would they automate those when the point is to give people something different to do?

>> No.56375860

>>56375658
>She will have her old chink model and her primary weapon will be the bow and arrow.

>> No.56375870

>>56375658
>she WILL complain.
Kek, pretty damn sure the devs are aware by now that any magic is ok and any weapon that isn't a bow and arrow is ok.

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Is there a sound/sprite cue to know when Kobo's Praise buff has activated? Glancing at the bottom corner over and over again is distracting enough to often lose whatever's even there.
Other characters with Skills like this all have something that lets you keep your eyes on the sprite. Ollie has the *TINK*, Choco & Sana have overlays, Korone turns into Red Hulk etc.. So what's Kobo's & how do I keep missing it?

>> No.56376351

>>56375658
Gen 3 is a pain in the ass in general which is probably why it was decided to skip them for now.
>Pekora demands her character is OP.
>Flare needs to be carefully studied because she whines all the time.
>Marine has her hag and horny gimmicks which the devs need to also carefully think about how to implement without going over the line into offending the talent or being too sexual.
>Rushia.
Only Noel is an inherently easy character to work into the game, she is a tanky warrior who will probably go berserker under the right conditions.

>> No.56376434

>got the longest recorded time on endless
>only got half the score of the top player in leaderboards
Is it because I didn't take halu?

>> No.56376532

>>56376351
It’s a single player game and even the leaderboards are character specific. Does it matter if she’s a little OP? If my oshi asked to be buffed on stream I’d probably cave

>> No.56376607

Kay please add a speed up mode.

>> No.56376609

Does Beetle works on Risu's skills? Seems op if it is.

>> No.56376654

>>56376434
Yeah score is heavily tied to number of enemies defeated, most importantly the mini bosses which start spawning from 22 mins and Yagoo. Playtime only matters if you're playing Hardcore.

>> No.56376797

What's a good build for doing the 500 hp adchievement? Like a character, items and stage. I am having a hard time with it

>> No.56376852

>>56376654
I see, thanks... Dang it, I thought the leaderboards were time based.

>> No.56376942

A random mode where you have no idea what enemies you will face would be interesting even if playtesting it would be a pain in the ass

>> No.56377001

how are people getting 40 minutes on EVERY character
is there some new broken combo?

>> No.56377118

>try for 30 minutes achievement on stage 1
>beat smol ame while moving around
>could stand still until around 24 minutes in
>have to move a bit and even use skill until just before 30 minutes
>30 minute mark hits
>have to run from the Yagoos only to die a minute later
Should I be max upgraded before even trying to take on the Yagoos? I had 3 collabs and even a super collab (not enhanced though) but I can barely kill any of them.

>> No.56377247

>>56375658
god i hope her weapon is a bow

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>>56374809
Much like with all the lightweight fairy types with low HP and defenses, you're better off banking on the strengths of just controlling as much space as possible, getting boxed in is certain death. Luckily before Yagoo's start their bullying, IRyS has a very strong first 20 or so minutes solely due to having passive self-sustain, strong synergy with crit and tons of hits on her basic weapon, which makes something like an early Knockback stamp or Usada stamp a real strong start. Out of items Hope Soda, Milk, Focus Shades and many of the "gambit" items (Face Mask, Energy Drink, GWS Pill etc...) remain strong solely because even with a plethora of defensive options, you'll explode so having a good set of either ranged damage weapon collabs or items will usually leave your defensive options to either slot for body pillow and chicken feather.

>> No.56377488

>>56376797
Take the meat super collab, Piki, and Bandage. Use food. Play endless. I hit 400hp in an endless run before the patch so it should be very possible.

>> No.56377562

>>56375658
she will have twin pistols as main weapon like her megaman fangame and it will be called smile n go
>>56377001
so far its 35 mins from top leaderboard
maybe stacking damage reductions+jingisukan+lifesteal stamp? that supercollab adds 100hp and regen which is enough to buy yourself 5 minutes on paper

>> No.56377636

>>56377001
I think super collabs are just that good.

>> No.56377645

>>56377488
Got it.
Whats a good character and stage for that?

>> No.56377722

I find it weird that akirose is top S rank tier on both holocure and idol showdown. Dev bias? Lol

>> No.56377728

>>56377645
Anyone, anywhere.

>> No.56377742

>>56377562
I could see Flare having a big fire aoe somehow with her being the forest burner or something with block game since she's one of the major autists (shiraken super collab when?)

>> No.56377747

I disabled the fandom option from the shop but I still cant get the bug adchivement thingy. Unless you get it by just not picking the character only items in a run.

>> No.56377890

>>56377001
Because Jingisukan is now a thing. 3 HP per second might not look like much, but every circle applies their own separate heal so when you're on Yagoo rush it's stupidly difficult for them to kill you through the constant heal and whatever defensive items you have.

>> No.56377930

>>56377747
Don't pick skills (character specific passives) and finish a stage (banish them so they don't clog your level up screen)

>> No.56378061

>>56377930
Thank you. I dont know why it says something about turning Fandoms off in there but whatever.

>> No.56378168

>>56378061
Because if you have it on it'd be impossible to start the challenge in the first place. Even at level 1 Fandom the one you're playing will automatically have a skill attached unto them when starting the game.

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Fishin'

>> No.56378401

>>56378168
Oh that explains a lot then. I thought the Fandom option was there to get the tiny buffs like the slight hp increase depending how much you oshi them by like completing all stages with them.
Thanks again.

>> No.56378511

>>56377890
Jingisukan is broken, definitely gonna be nerfed at 0.7

>> No.56378613

Holy shit Risu with Lui shades + Beetle is overpowered

>> No.56378780

Did anyone face any issue launching the game from Steam? The screen just froze for me right after launch, no error messages.

itch.io version works fine

>> No.56378862

sweaty sex with ID sprites

>> No.56378958

>>56377742
this would never work. the list of things flare hates includes bows and fire magic. kay boys to every talent whine promptly so it's unlikely she'd get anything you'd actually expect her to have.

>> No.56379040

>>56378613
What does the beetle affect? I thought Risu clones fired her weapon and were affected by main weapon things like stickers.

>> No.56379080

>>56379040
if a skill produces damage (rather than just a multiplier) beetle affects it

>> No.56379107

>>56378958
Why Flare schizos love to lie about her? She likes fire memes

>> No.56379192

>>56379107
why flare apologists love to lie about her? she has ranted about "fire" associations with her on at least two occasions but no doubt more that didn't get cliptranslated. post less, lurk more.

>> No.56379289

>>56379192
Ah, so thats why her default weapon of choice in L4D2 was to throw molotoves everywhere. Watch streams Flare schizo

>> No.56379306

there aren't many flare posters but somehow they always shit up threads making things about her

>> No.56379323

Shit game

>> No.56379373

>>56379323
true, true. the length of time i spend on the porcelain throne with my steamdeck because of this thing isn't reasonable. it really is the game i think of when i go to shit without fail.

>> No.56379429

>Play Choco
>Pick Beetle
>Make Jingisukan
ez game

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>> No.56379530

>>56376532
>VS coop update
Holocure might add something similar so it need future proofing

>> No.56379582

>>56379477
Thats nuts

>> No.56379639
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>>56376797
Kiara has the highest base HP. Didn't even need endless mode to reach it

>> No.56379692

Do I need to level the passive item for super collabs?

>> No.56379769

>>56379692
Yes. I tried it out yesterday with jingisukan and I didn't get the anvil until the item was leveled

>> No.56379782

>>56374809
Greed Stamp with SUPER Super Chatto Time. Which is impossible to guarantee (you have something like a 0.3% chance of getting it, per Holobox) so unless you're as autistic as I am don't even bother trying. If you're asking for coin-grinding purposes grab Greed Stamp & regular SCT anyway, the sooner the better.
Crit hits heal her & increase her damage so CRT is her priority stat. But since it caps at 100% (and is arguably unnecessary long before that) I don't bother wasting item slots on Sake or GWS in Endless runs & wait for the incremental 3% increases once every slot's filled.
There isn't an incremental stat-up for Crit Damage, however. So buffs for that are valuable. The Botan goggles sticker, the new Lui glasses probably... Hope Soda is literally made for her, since she ideally wants every hit to be a crit & has a shitty Special that you don't lose out on by gimping.
I'm pretty sure that her hafu skills aren't tied exclusively to her main weapon, so AoE collabs are preferable. Maximize the # of hits you're generating to keep the healing coming in & the DPS buff topped up. Also she's pretty fuckin' set for full frontal assault so things like Dragon Fire are just overkill IMO; guard every other angle.
She doesn't really need healing items so long as your consistently crit-ing. That said a Full Meal might be worthwhile, since it doesn't need upgraded. Her healing's consistency but very gradual & chip-based compared to some other healers, so doubling it makes her runs a lot comfier.
I'd say Full Meal's good enough that you can safely pass on all defensive items but I guess there's her 3rd skill to consider. The "knockback enemies & heal every 1/5 hits taken" one. I don't think it's enough to build around, but if you're down to the wire with 0 rerolls, one slot free and only bodypillow/breastplate/etc. show up, sure it's not a wasted investment.
Since we're specifically talking Endless I'm obligated to recommend Study Glasses, Kaela's goggles & (with a disclaimer) Halu. They're must-haves in all my Endless runs, & reap the most benefit the earlier you get them. That said Irys specifically has a harder time with Halu until she has her Awakened weapon, so that one can be held off on.
Regarding Stamps (besides Greed & Botan's Crit-Up), IDK multiple builds are viable. My default go-to is always Haste/Size/Projectile but Size doesn't actually work on her and Projectile's pretty redundant, since her maxed weapon already probably has the most individual projectiles per volley. That, of course, also means it has the most HITS per volley, so hit-based stamps like Weaken/Slow/Bomb (ESPECIALLY Bomb) are pretty mental. Again it's a matter of calculating for overkill and what'd be most efficient.

>> No.56379894

>>56379639
NTA but I haven't done Kiara yet and I think I don't ever want to do it so the revive item never gets added to the Item Pool.

>> No.56379923

>>56379477
poor little yo pi

>> No.56379982

>>56379429
...shit.

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>>56379192
She shouldn't have actively made that her one memorable character trait, then.
If you've got timestamps or transcriptions or even just broad heresay on the context of these rants then it'd help. I vaguely remember this coming up in these threads last update and it turns out the guy was simply mistaken.

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>30 shrimps not enough for a level
fat fuck

>> No.56380213

>>56379080
>Nene's Skills will all be different types of husband

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>Finally get around to playing it
>Reroll function is still the most useless piece of shit in this game
Where can I yell at Kay Yu to fix this shit?
Literally
>Eliminate
>Reroll
>get the same fucking choices (sans the one eliminated) every time you reroll
This shouldn't be a fucking thing. I reroll to GET AWAY from those choices, not have them plague my fucking rerolls because they still need to be leveled

>> No.56380331

>>56380213
nah, at least one of her skills needs to be to copy enemy actions. copy a membershrimp, get a gura skill. if you know, you know.

>> No.56380335

>>56376797
I did Korone with Piiman, Bandage & all the weapon slots switched off.
She was scary. I SD'd as soon as I got it but was an absolute juggernaut til then.

>> No.56380443

>>56380276
>Reroll algorithm has been adjusted. After rerolling, the weights of Weapons and Items that were offered previously are reduced, which makes them appear less until the next level up.
From the changelog, but not sure how that fits into items you already have because they will inevitably have to show up unless you eliminate them.

>> No.56380497

>>56376797
>>56377645
Worth noting i went Korone specifically because one of her Skills gives her bonus HP, so it gets there that little bit quicker.
She was the only one I could think of on the spot, any others? I love the idea behind new Piiman but it seems kind of useless right now without a slew of kits to actually take advantage of it. I'm too used to Genshin i guess.

>> No.56380547

>>56380331
no bully wife pls
she said sorry

>> No.56380619

>>56380547
doesn't mean it stopped being funny. ideally you should want for her to have skin thick enough to have us be laughing with her, not at her.

>> No.56380684

>>56380497
Ollie's undead passive rewards building HP, but it's kind of weird to use with PP; you wanna have the passive triggered 24/7 but that makes PP worse because it cuts your max HP in half.

>> No.56380744

>Been trying to beat stage 4 for 2 days now with no success
>"Fuck it, lets give stage 1 hard mode a go"
>Beat it first try
I don't understand.

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>>56380335
Reject weapons! Return to Orayo!

>> No.56380832

>>56380744
he balances the game incrementally. so instead of do the smart thing and give people a way to play each map at the same difficulty like so many roguelikes do, each is harder than the maps before it, hence the foot/sword scaling shown. hard 1 is much easier than stage 4.
for the record, you're still upgrading in the store, yes? because stage 4 is pretty easy even with no fandom if your store is upgraded, so i have to assume you're still working on it.

>> No.56380960

>>56380832
But the Foot/Sword level for Hard 1 and Stage 4 is the same.

>> No.56380963

we do a little trolling

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Please daremo tasukete. I can play the old game with my old progress but the update does not work. If I install from steam, do I lose my previous progress and should I install it to the same directory as my previous version?

>> No.56381025

>>56380443
>, but not sure how that fits into items you already have.
It doesn't, because that's what tends to pop up repeatedly. It's frustrating that they pretty much don't give you much of a choice and that the only way to really get what you want is to fucking main weapon clear to trim the fat.

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>>56381014
Saves are located in appdata (like so). Both versions read from here. I ported without issues, but there should my favorite word, should be a backup in the folder if needed.

>> No.56381380

Can anyone tell me how the fuck does some reach 1M+ for mel and ayame? 900k for reine? Ayame is a shitter with no survival skills

>> No.56381939

What does holo house give you besides extra money?

>> No.56381976

>>56381357
Thank you ! no issues with my previous save

>> No.56381991

>>56381939
You can cook meals that buff you for your next run

>> No.56381992

>>56381939
cooked food buffs

>> No.56382021

>>56381939
fun

>> No.56382150

>>56381380
For Reine
Food: Spicy Seafood Udon
Weapon: Solo
Items: Full Meal, Idol Costume, Plushie, Membership, Piki Piki, Halu
Stamps: Vampire, Solo, Greed
Stats: HP > Speed > Haste = Attack
Go to stage 3 hard and intentionally get hit as much as you can to trigger the food buff so you can spam tonjok. When you’re starting out you can use superchat time instead of halu, but once you’re confident with the stage it would be better to swap out membership for superchat time instead.
My record with Reine is 1M but thats with no halu. Ive done non-money endless runs (no greed stamp or superchat time) and I still make around half a mil on an endless run

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>didn't read the changes to Time Stage
>be miserable
Anyone have tips on the new version?

>> No.56383538

>people are still unironically debating characters and setups for optimal coin farming
It doesn't matter. None of that matters. My slaves made 100k while I was taking a shit. Just play the game.

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>>56379894
There are a few other high health characters that will "only" be 10 default health behind

>> No.56383615

>>56376351
>>56375658
>>56375870
I've never watched Flare
Any clips of her whining?

>> No.56383647

Why aren't there character ability pages yet

>> No.56383721

i haven't done much endless before this patch, but i now have most girls gachikoid with hard 3s done, and the weapon slot "meta" i've found is restricting to 3 (so super collab, normal collab, leftover). for conventional endless play where coins AREN'T the goal (and in fact don't matter at all), how many weapon slots would you suggest? all of them? stick with 3?
right now with one or both exp items there just isn't time for a third collab and the leftover upgrades line up perfectly with a handful of stat bonuses, but having extra time in endless isn't necessarily best spent with more collabs because of the upgrades.
anybody with experience with this with advice before i start going down the list?

>> No.56383728

Ideas of gen 3? I tried to think of stuff that the girls would enjoy.

Pekora:
>Pekorocket laucher main weapon
>ult is human rabbitality
>skill that increases explosives damage and area
>skill that references her laugh in some way
>skill that references her status as a """lucky""" rabbit

Marine:
>Cutlass or flintlock weapon
>ult is a bullet hell since she loves touhou
>skill making a "subtle" reference to her age
>skill maing a "subtle" reference to her libido
>skill referencing treasure box

Noel:
>mace weapon
>skill that gives her good synergy with knightly milk
>skill that references her ASMR
I don't know much more about her honestly

Flare:
>weapon that isn't a bow and arrow
Flare will not be happy with anything. I don't fucking know.

Rushia:
>some necromancy weapon
>ult is a mega desk slam
fuck knows

>> No.56383806

>>56383728
>Cutlass or flintlock weapon
Why not both?

>> No.56383835

>>56383728
>Flare
her weapon will be a shotgun, screen cap this

>> No.56383941

>>56375658
why she complains?

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These will be Flare's weapons

>> No.56384099

>>56383728
>Marine
Meter builds as she picks up coins, encouraging Greed stamp.
Coin meter (not necessarily coins) are spent with her special based on how full the meter is, sort of like Ollie.
Strongest version would be a huge female shadow appearing overhead, all targets get targeted on screen with some windup as the shadow finds them, then coins are dumped all over the screen as a huge attack.
The shadow would resemble Isaac's mom. If you know, you know.

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Might be my highest HP ever.

>> No.56384429

>>56384099
>Meter builds as she picks up coins, encouraging Greed stamp.
Anything related to picking up coins would need to have some kind of cooldown or just be a buff that refreshes its duration and at that point Greed wouldn't really do much because you're frequently getting coin drops anyway.

>> No.56384471

>>56383806
A flintlock gun with a cutlass bayonet? Or a gun that fires cutlasses?

>> No.56384503

>>56384429
>anon hasn't played reine yet

>> No.56384520

>>56384471
I was thinking a slash followed by a shot but a gun that shoots cutlasses sounds fun too

>> No.56384559

>>56384471
...she has two hands.

>> No.56384599

How will Fuwamoco be implemented?

>> No.56384623

>>56384599
go back

>> No.56384668

>>56384503
Reine generates coins, she doesn't benefit from picking them up. That anon suggested special charge from picking up coins which would be completely broken if it wasn't throttled in some way and if it's going to be throttled there's no longer any Greed synergy because you're regularly getting coins regardless.

>> No.56384691

wat are some hotkeys u guys are using with mouse
i'm doing wasd but can't find a good hotkey for the ultis and clicking

>> No.56384769

Anya is pretty fun. I picked up Idol costume and the breastplate which basically let me use the Special once every two sleep cycles.

I just activate the sleep, use attacks to kill anything around me, when the sleep stacks get too high I refresh them by moving a bit. Once the enemies get close enough I have a special ready to clean everything up. Plus the breastplate does loads of damage to bosses who stand inside the special while its going

>> No.56384772

any talents that could reach peak damage? like the yagoos are killed instantly after getting on screen?

>> No.56384791

>>56384691
Ulti is right click be default and it's good enough. Alternatively change it to [2] or [space]

>> No.56384846

>>56384772
Solo weapon Suisei maybe?

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It's bijouver

>> No.56385079

>>56384846
nta but I remember seeing an anon's clip where they were getting consistent 10k-12k swings with her, don't remember what buffs they had

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Is there a better feeling in this game than using Kaela's special to break all her ore deposits?

>> No.56385337
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>>56384623
BAU BAU! BAU BAU!

>> No.56385359

i havent played for long in the new patch but was there any new weapons with new collabs?

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>>56385191

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>>56385191
I feel cathartic joy simply skipping stage patterns with Okayu.

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I fucked up and think I managed to wipe my steamdeck save file instead of transferring it over to the steam release by removing it as a non steam game before I transfered the save over

>> No.56385917

any tips for no damage from projectiles in hard mode ? buffs from cooking needed for this one right ?

>> No.56386046

does the save get overwritten if the PC is shared with multiple steam accounts?

>> No.56386208

>>56386046
It shouldn't. The save data only pulls from the user folder based on your PC account, not your steam account.

>> No.56386430

>>56386208
What if my brother switches the steam account, will it tamper my own save file or will he have its own instance?

>> No.56386529

>>56383728
Autism mode on
>Pekora
Goal: RNG and explosions.
Weapon: Pekarrot Launcher - single shot launcher that deals damage with a blast radius. Awakened - 30% chance of the blast being “Lucky.” Lucky blasts detonate twice on impact with a larger blast radius.
Skills:
Lucky Rabbit - Haste Up, Adds flat +% chance for all lucky procs
Pekoland Princess - adds speed and % chance to evade attacks. Has % chance of getting “lucky.” During lucky evade pekora gains 3 seconds of invulnerability
Mischief - every x seconds Pekora plants TNT that explodes after a few seconds. Has chance to get lucky - explosion stuns affected enemies for 3 seconds
Special:
Ultimate TNT Cannon - Pekora shoots a fuckton of rockets and tnt at a location. Luck + 100% during special.

>Rushia
Goal: Pet Summoner Character
Weapon: Kitchen Knife - Melee short stab. Gets bigger and faster as you level.
Skills:
Loyal Fandead - Fans cured by rushia (to a cap) get turned into undead minions that deal melee damage to the closest target. Draws aggro away from Rushia. Has health, can die
Piercing Scream - deals 300% damage around rushia every x seconds. Deals knockback.
Watch Over Me - When Rushia is near a fandead. Grants both of them shields. On a cooldown.
Special:
Pact of Loyalty - Rushia gives up half her health to summon special beefed up fandead. Gain lifesteal for 10 seconds after use.

>> No.56386681

>>56376532
If their a little OP than it's probably fine the problem is when they're so strong that a player wind up capable of falling asleep while playing them t.playerwhodidthatwithearlierMumeiversion

>> No.56386769
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>every single worker with not garbage stats has been a goofy lookin' skelebro
This is discrimination! The dev is biased!

>> No.56386794

Is there a benefit to stack crit?

>> No.56386893

>>56386769
I just picked whatever worker had the highest growth rate to get to management lvl 4 quickly, the ones you get before lvl 4 can't reach max level anyways funnily enough my best worker is now also a deadbeat

>> No.56386954

>>56381939
Food Buffs. Until I get the Peafowl Rod I mostly like making the Pufferfish dish since stat boosts basically everything.

>> No.56386967

>>56385917
No, not really. If you don't feel confident dodging. Play someone like Fauna who has an invincibility special and a passive that builds up blocking. With the two of them combined you should be fine

>> No.56387084

>>56386794
Yes. More crit.
?

>> No.56387093

So what's better for getting more exp, the new lab coat or glasses?

>> No.56387235

>>56387093
Glasses if you have to choose between either. Especially with the added damage.

>> No.56387275

>>56383728
Based on how references to members tend to gel specifically with those members' kits:
>Pekora - Skill that procs off explosions (HoloBomb & Bomb Stamp)
>Marine - Skill that scales off of coins collected (Greed Stamp) and MAYBE freezing (Frozen Sea)
>Noel - Skills related to tanking hits (Breastplate) & AoE ala Sana (Milk)
>Flare - Either a Skill that scales off of # of projectiles or a main weapon that's one massive projectile (Projectile Stamp; would literally be double/triple damage for the latter)
>Rushia - some kind of extra special synergy with the board that I can't think of right now

As for general references I'd throw in Noel's gargantuan tits and Pekora's FUCKING MONKEY.

>> No.56387342

Was there a buff to fishing with the lower quality rods with the last patch? Can't say for sure but it feels like you get up more of the low level food fish now.
Already got the goldrod and know you can get more per pull that way but with an awful chance to get shrimp/clownfish etc fishbait when?

>> No.56387555

best super collab?

>> No.56387879

>>56375658
Doubtful. Dev's oshi's both interact with her plenty, I'm sure he's well aware of how navigate that.

>> No.56387884
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What the hell is this?

>> No.56387912

>>56387275
PRESS F TO PET THE MONKEY

>> No.56387918

>>56387555
Depends a bit.
If you want straight up damage: Holy Fire
If you have a good special: Idol Live
If your character doesn't have any innate healing: Jingisukan
If you want more control and crits: Snow Queen
It feels like there isn't a definitive best one for every character/build which is nice

>> No.56387929

just had a 700k coin run with Irys on endless myth, 100k on yagoos alone

>skull/projectile/pekora bomb
>no weapons
>glasses/halu/candy/double healing/piki piman/
>haste soup
>stats priority: haste > crit > hp > damage > speed > pick up

>> No.56387999

>try to get back in the funk with a stage 3 run
>Anya is doing fantastic
>Until faggot cat snipers
I hate this mob so much, it annoys me how i have to chase every single last one of them because one single shot does so much damage. They are pretty much better than Shion herself

>> No.56388024

>>56385917
Anyone on stage 1 hard is easy, there's only a single projectile wave at 17:00, and they have a delay on shooting so you can just run one direction and you'll easily outrange every projectile. I used Bae just to nuke down the end boss since that's the only other projectile threat.

>> No.56388029

>>56387884
A super collab hammer. Lets you combine certain collabs with certain items to make super collabs, freeing up the item slot while still giving you the benefits of the item in the super collab as well as changing the standard collab a bit

>> No.56388159

>>56387918
Holy fire is great for anything that doesn't rely heavily on crit (Korone etc...)
Idol Live is great for those who want to have a strong special uptime (Okayu, Io etc...)
Jingisukan for any character who builds sustain and HP anyway (Kiara, Korone etc...)
Snow Queen for practically any character which has melee basic, builds melee and utilizes crit.

>> No.56388210

>>56388159
>Holy fire is great for anything that doesn't rely heavily on crit
Doesn't the super collab remove the crit penalty of the gorilla's paw?

>> No.56388236

>>56387918
>>56388159
I feel like Aki is great with snow queen just because of Mukirose

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it's joever...

>> No.56388503

>>56388236
I think frozen sea might be better for Aki

>> No.56388714

>>56388210
Yes, but the process of building it is usually also a process of using items that benefit to building to it. In case of someone like Korone, there just isn't a single reason to not pick gorilla early in the run, while other characters might not want to gut their crit rate early due to character mechanics (like Okayu, IRyS etc...), in those cases you usually pick paw among your last items (if you pick it at all, as there might be better options in comparison to Holy Fire)

>> No.56388796

You know what would be a fun visual? Bijou-themed enemies using visuals from the pebblesonas thing she did on her debut. Maybe make it a thing similar to the worker name list, or somehow set up a grabber to dynamically get pebblesonas from the relevant hashtag that'll work for 5 seconds until someone smart decides to post goatse under the hashtag.

>> No.56388902

>>56388503
hmm, I will try that next run. what super collab would you run on her?

>> No.56388965

>decided to play gacha
>didn't unlock ID gens yet
>roll 3 gacha for gen 3
>got all in 3 in 1 roll
>nice.jpg
>time for gen 2
>roll 3 again
>got 2 ollie and reine
>roll again
>3 ollies
>again
>another 3 ollies
>wtf.jpg
>roll once more got anya and ollie
i now have a fucking Grade 8 OLLIE
FUCKING WHYYYYYYYYYYY

>> No.56389029

>>56380960
Stage 4 is brand new. When hard 1 was rated we didn't have stickers, enchants, cooking, super collabs, a lot of the stronger items/regular collabs, and there were fewer upgrades in the shop.

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>>56388965
>inb4 lying for entertainment purposes
look at this
LOOK AT IT

>> No.56389230

>>56389193
Zombanwa!

>> No.56389312

>>56388965
10 pull like a real man.

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>>56389193
Time to increase that Fandom...

>> No.56389532

>>56389404
stop having sex on stream again Ollie

>> No.56389543

>>56389312
i wanted to spend as little as possible so i 3 pulled instead.
now i have a rank 8 ollie.
all im missing is aqua now

>> No.56389738

>>56383728
Noel
>Weapon: swings a mace that knocks targets around. Awakened effect has a chance of it getting "lodged" into enemies, dealing DOT.
>Knight Cup: Boosts the efficiency of all AOE effects.
>Palace Guard: Gives a damage boost to knockback effects, scaling with intensity.
>: Every X number or seconds Noel emits a pleasant tone, reducing enemy ATK by XX% in an area.
>Special: Transforms into Noel Deluxe, reducing movement speed and creating damaging shockwaves that push targets back with every step.
Only issue is getting synergy with the knockback effect of knightly milk and the the whole getting hit to deal damage aspect of the breastplate.

>> No.56389854

>>56379477
Aw nuts!

>> No.56389873

>>56386769
>>56386893
Wouldn't surprise me if he made deadbeats slightly better workers due to the whole Calli workaholic thing.

>> No.56389984
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Gib Botan.

>> No.56389997

I don't know if it's correct but I always take piman and stack hp in endless

>> No.56390023

>>56389738
Screwed up, last skill was supposed to be called Onee-san/Sisterly ASMR

>> No.56390081

>Get Jingisukan on Mel
>Become an insatiable lawn mower

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Best placement I'll ever have probably.

>> No.56390266

>>56390096
The leader board is new, there should still be time for mediocre players to snipe #1 scores. I took one last night on a scuffed first attempt.

>> No.56390267
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Why do the other mems sometimes spawn in the worker area?

>> No.56390301

>>56390096
I’m still wondering how to reach 8-10 million. Best I’ve made so far is about 7.3m. Do I need more power? Because I have about 800 HP before getting slaughtered at 42 minutes.

>> No.56390350

>>56390267
Sex with chumbuddies.

>> No.56390355

>>56390267
Presumably because Kay Yu didn't turn off spawning in that area

>> No.56390368

>>56389997
It's a viable strategy that works decently well with pretty much everyone. Even low base HP characters can get several hundred HP in endless.
>>56390267
Pretty sure Kay just made a basic rectangle spawn point and cut out the pond from it.

>> No.56390405

>>56390301
I think early halu is the main factor.

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>>56390096
Do we know how exactly the highscore is calculated? I got a #6 without really trying to maximize my score and realized I could probably have gotten #1 if I just ran away from Yagoos longer and started with hardcore enabled

>> No.56390481

>>56390405
I get early Halu and that’s not the only thing. I think it has something to do with Yagoo killing. I went solo weapon for my runs, I don’t know if that’s the best strat or if I should be using more weapons.

>> No.56390516

So, koyori vest and exp glasses or anvil card + kaela item?

>> No.56390533

haven't played this in awhile, holy shit they added so much. this game fucking rules. nearly shit myself when I got my first super collab. I think it was called idol live. I was confused to see a golden anvil pop up when I was full on collabs. "huh?" went to "lmao what the fuck" very quickly
bravo Kay yu

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how to get 160 levels in endless? just pick up glasses ? im stuck at 120ish

>> No.56390611

how do I farm with irys? I die too fast at halu4

>> No.56390690

>>56390602
glasses + halu

>> No.56390726

how do you toggle fandoms off?
i want to do a run for the achievement for clearing a stage with no skills. i have a character i don't have any fandom for anyway but i just want to be safe

>> No.56390762

>>56375860
Hopefully she will be darker than Sana

>> No.56390787

>>56390690
so one less defensive items, kinda tricky but ill try

>> No.56390848

>>56390726
Refund the upgrade in the shop

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How much of this is a skill issue? I have been prodding at Migo in this run for about 3 minutes before she died and had to keep running away from a horde about the size that's on the screenshot for like 6 minutes straight. Should I just avoid halu until I get all shop upgrades?

>> No.56391196

>>56391046
The fuck is this item selection?

>> No.56391326

>>56391046
Your items suck ass

>> No.56391331

>>56391046
Do people unironically take ubersheep?

>> No.56391389
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if you use the pufferfish meal set food from holohouse you can start a hardcore run with 10 extra hp

>> No.56391423

Is it true the Piki Piki Piman effect from the previous update is still present in a new item? I really liked it and I'm not a big fan of the new version.

>> No.56391436

>>56375860
What should her primary weapon be if not that?

>> No.56391459

>>56387884
There are only 4 right now for the record. Transparent parts of the hammer will actually start appearing in the top-right of your screen if you've got the necessary pieces for one. I've had a handle and a a tiny little nub from the bottom of the handle appear (I'm guessing for when you have a valid collab and a valid maxed item, respectively).

>> No.56391471

do you guys take blacksmith's gear and/or credit card for solo weapon runs?

>> No.56391580

man fauna is so fun with jingisukan and the beetle

>> No.56391688

>>56391331
I still take it. But you won’t see me take Limiter in a million years. Idol Dress for a solo weapon run is really questionable.

>> No.56391705

>>56391436
Pyromancy. Easily.
She's been leaning into that meme for years.

>> No.56391780

>>56391705
Why though? I know she hates being called a "dark elf" but I didn't realize she hated her bow and arrow too. She even has it in the holo Alternative PV.

>> No.56391827

>>56391423
Its a now a food item you can craft in the Holo House called Spicy Seafood Udon.

>> No.56391910

>>56391688
Well, solo items generally increase skill damage too now, so spamming ulti should be more viable.

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>>56384599
Good luck.

>> No.56392052

can irys still afk farm? if I don't keep moving the mob do too much damage before I can heal

>> No.56392082

>>56376351
as long as when the horny buff activate shes goes "im horrrrrnnyyyyyyy" then all will be right in the world
it could even be her ult , more of a buff one like +100% atk for X seconds kind of thing

>> No.56392140

>>56384599
You play as Mococo and Fuwawa will backseat you by giving bad advice

>> No.56392257

>>56391471
No. Unfortunately it just gets too unreliable at higher levels, as opposed to XP buffs. Even without credit card or blacksmith glasses you'll still typically get 20+ levels easily.

>> No.56392292

I want to plap biboo so bad bros....

>> No.56392297

>>56391331
Yes, it's part of a collab now
taking it in a solo item run is kinda dumb though

>> No.56392365

Does credit card work with Kaela's anvil drop? I just did a no thoughts run where it showed up and holy shit that was a lot of anvils.

>> No.56392368

>>56391910
My problem is I’d rather take the food buff to get special charge when getting hit. Idol Dress is sort of redundant when I could take something that makes me stronger.

>> No.56392394

>>56392292
Same, stupid sexy zoomer brat

>> No.56392451

>>56391780
Her issue boils down to not wanting to be stereotyped, and bows are THE stereotypical elf weapon. At the end of the day, much as people like to shit on her for it, Flare just wants to be represented by who she actually is, so she doesn't give people coming to watch her the wrong impression and leave them dissapointed.

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>>56391780
IDK cuz setting shit on fire's fun? She's the one who started the meme of her being an arsonist with her own actions. And she's STILL doing it so I dunno what the "actually she hates that too" thing ITT is based off of.

>> No.56392552

So Beetle is the new best item, right?

>> No.56392579

>>56392552
Literally useless of several characters.

>> No.56392696

>>56391331
Okayu gets stupid mileage out of it, but that's about it. If you're not playing Okayu, you usually grab it for the collab.

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>get stuck on one of the stupid dividers in the hololive office stage (literally just a long vertical pixel that almost looks no different from the rest of the stage
>die

>> No.56392755

>>56386769
ive noticed haatons seem to be generally useless for their tier, which is a shame cause i want a pen of only pigs for haachama to bully and get "bullied" in when she falls over

>> No.56392771

best character for the no skills achievement run?

>> No.56392784

>>56391331
I cope with Sake + Ubersheep + Limiter if I can when I'm trying to do max crit memes with Bae.

>> No.56392870

>>56392451
Technically it's the stereotypical elf weapon, but not DARK ELF weapon. For dark elves it would be daggers, blades, glaives. They are assassins that slice you up in the dark, not marksmen and hunters in the woods.

>> No.56392878

>>56387093
you can do both coat and glasses ive reached lv195 doing that
the coat relies on not getting hit though so it would either need to be someone who can get comfortable in the pocket like haachama/sana/mumei, or have dodge like fubuki/gura

>> No.56392882

Am I blind or is there not an option for picking a random character anymore? Am I misremembering and that wasn't ever a thing?

>> No.56392884

>>56392771
I did it with Ayame, she just doesn't need them to murder everything

>> No.56392921

>>56392882
That used to be a thing yes.

>> No.56393066

>>56388159
the fact that you also get 50% all stats when you lt, makes it surprisingly good on haachama too
and the cooldown reduction makes it so if you want to use coexist you will have haato ready in time to go back into if youre going to die in haachama form (i,e, yagoo 35+)

>> No.56393110

>>56392552
In terms of fun, it's my favorite. Solo weapon Mio has never felt so good to play.

>> No.56393259

>>56384599
One character slot with 2 sprites ala Donkey Kong Country or Ice Climbers. Either they tag between themselves or they act entirely as one entity with some double-damage quirks to make up for the bigger hitbox.

>> No.56393273

>>56391780
>>56392451
her problem stems from not wanting to be the sub in the noe/flare relationship
she wants to be the cool girl who kabedons, not the submissive slut (and despite noel being a knight in armour its obvious shes flipped the other way being the subbiest of subs holding a baby bottle wearing a cow bra)

>> No.56393288

I've tried doing the only pick first item from the list achievement three times now and for some reason I'm not getting it. Is there something I should be turning off for it? I'm using anvils, stamps and collecting boxes normally, and have the full armory.

>> No.56393338

>>56392771
literally anyone. Go to Stage 1 and see how many different "no [x]" achievements you can do at once.

>> No.56393340

>>56392579
It’s not literally useless on my most used characters but it may as well be.

>> No.56393366
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>>56393110
I'm having too much fun with it

>> No.56393370

>>56393259
we already have haachama as a template, make it a stance swap

>> No.56393404

>>56393273
>she wants to be the cool girl
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about

>> No.56393416

>>56393370
Didn't the dev say he doesn't want the stance swap mechanic for FWMC?

>> No.56393488

>>56373085
Can confirm, got a wooden cabinet or something. Seems rare, like around the same rate of goldens

>> No.56393503

>>56393288
IDK, I got it in 1 try but it was as part of >>56393338 which might've messed with it. Went for No Items & no main-weapon-levels too (Eliminated it ASAP so the upgrades wouldn't be 1st later).

>> No.56393567

>>56393503
I'll try that then!

>> No.56393629

>>56393370
Nah, I give Kay Yu more credit than wholesale reusing a gimmick like that. Especially since it's literally two people and not just schizo kayfabe. They're a special case IRL, so warrant special treatment for their sprite.

>> No.56393634

>>56393404
she has said as much herself
she didnt want to be pigeonholed into the submissive elf stereotype

>> No.56393719
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Does the Super Sake interact it with Ceo's tears? It feels like the tears just shoot in a much wider cone and spread more randomly.

>> No.56393738

>>56393416
>>56393629
What if you use one stick to control one and the other stick to control the other? So you get two characters but you can only aim in the direction you’re moving without the lock.

>> No.56393789

>>56393634
There's some kind of disconnect here. Since all I've heard about Flare is that she was meant to be cool and went out of her way to undo that image cuz she'd rather be seen as cute.

>> No.56393868
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>>56393738
That's the kind of novelty I'm talking about. Like Gemini from Robot Wars.

>> No.56394055

>>56393719
No idea, never took it. Super Sake might be the most worthless Super Item with it only giving 30% crit, while Focus Shades gives similar value albeit it's tied to non-melee weapons and GWS gives permanent 25% provided you spam your special whenever they go off cooldown.

>> No.56394073

>>56393370
Kay Yu shot that down already. He is not going to copy Haachama's design. He wants it to feel like you're really playing two characters.

>> No.56394200

>>56393738
Personally, I find this >>56392038 idea the simplest solution. Two characters with the same control scheme and an optional button to move only one, double the items and double the hitbox. And sprinkle in some DBZ fusion action for an ult.

>> No.56394232

>>56393868
The only problem I see is that it’d probably be annoying to move the screen. You have to impose a limit on how far away they can move from each other since otherwise, one would go offscreen if you wanted. Maybe make it so one drags the other behind them once you hit a certain range limit.

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ZETA CUTE

>> No.56394587

what collabs are good on Aki?

>> No.56394659

>>56390410
The formula is on the wiki. Coins, kills, level, and time are the factors that matter, which is why I presume that early halu is the only real difference maker. An early drop contributes to three of those four.

>> No.56395017

OFFICIAL INDOCURE TIER LIST

>SS
Zeta

>S
Moona
Risu
Reine

>A
Kaela
Iofi

>B
Ollie
Kobo
Anya

>> No.56395037
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56395037

is AZKi better than Reine for coin farming?

>> No.56395067

>>56395017
>he doesn't know

>> No.56395100

>>56395067
>he thinks he knows

>> No.56395145
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56395145

Anyone know how to play Moona? Either her main Skill description's wrong or the game's glitched cuz she plain doesn't fukken work as advertised. I'm more inclined to believe the former but that still doesn't make sense unless I'm just looking at how she's "meant" to be played completely backwards.

>> No.56395175

>>56395017
Kaela is fucking busted though. She should be higher.

>> No.56395263

Technically you could start a new save, avoid unlocking some of the weapons, eliminate all of them except the ones needed to build a Super Collab, and end up with main weapon build with all the benefits of a broken super collab, the only downside in this scenario being -1 slot worth of damage from stamp. Superior to normal 3 weapon run where you lose another slot and 7 stat upgrades for little gain from a normal weapon.

>> No.56395291

>>56395263
ok but how do I farm coins

>> No.56395293
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56395293

quick, what's the best build for ela

>> No.56395335
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56395335

I thought Suipiss would be good with Greed Stamp, but it seems like either the damage-based scaling on it is really weak, or it doesn't count overkill damage.
Then I died because I suck at the game because I never take defensive or healing items and go full unga bunga big number mode.

>> No.56395356

>>56394587
Idol Live, I'd imagine.
Healing's pointless since she's designed to not get hit in the first place, so just go with whatever will cover the most area and stop enemies from getting near you. And/or invest in Bodypillow & Headphones.

>> No.56395367

Does hitting 30 minutes in endless count as a win?

>> No.56395419

>>56395367
yes

>> No.56395428

>>56395291
Fishing.

>> No.56395435

Noel milk doesn't affect Kaela's No Pressure. I feel like that's gotta be an oversight, I can't think of any other aoe unaffected by it

>> No.56395459

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1901917313?t=7h52m19s
Ollie...not like this...

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56395497

What'a the concensus on Stage 3H so far? Is it overtuned, or fine the way it is now? Even Kaela is having difficulty clearing it consistently, and I'm wondering if it's because the enemies move too fast. Maybe it's better to invest in Spd more than anything? Aruran was able to 1-weapon clear it using Risu by focusing everything into Speed and taking advantage of Cold Stamp

>> No.56395536

>>56395335
Multi-hit > Damage for coin farm

>> No.56395577

Why are people doing one item runs? for fun, or is there another reason

>> No.56395593
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56395593

>is a worthless meme fish that's just there to break your combos in your path

>> No.56395595

>>56395293
Haste buffs to swing her hammer faster at the deposits. Size Stamp might help for the same reason.
Maybe stuff that inflicts Slow to make No Pressure more potent? TBPH I'm surprised her kit wasn't explicitly built around Anvils & Upgrades so am kind of at a loss. Her Goggles & the Credit Card don't sound like they're even must-haves on her (unless they effect her Blacksmith Skill).

>> No.56395625

>>56395593
Do not bully Kanata!

>> No.56395629

>>56395497
It's good, you are more likely to die there because it's tiny and cluttered with stuff that you can get stuck on (especially when you can't see shit with all the fat Yagoos on screen), than die because enemies are strong.

>> No.56395762

>>56395536
Indeed. Gonna do Risu then, especially since the nutsplosion carries stamp effects. Starting to think Greed should just be bonus money on takedown and not machinegunning enemies with a bunch of low damage shots. Everyone kills, but not everyone machineguns.

>> No.56395852

>>56384599
One of the twins is the weapon.

>> No.56395881
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56395881

I think they'll make around 380k or so per run once I get all of them to max level, bretty gud passive income

>> No.56395890

>>56395335
The coins from Greed all have the same base value and you can't go higher than 100% chance to get them. Suisei is probably the worst character in the game to use Greed because she deals so much damage, attacks slowly, hits once and has relatively small range. If the stamp also scaled the coin value based on damage then she'd be great for it but it's busted enough as-is.

>> No.56395950

>>56395890
>If the stamp also scaled the coin value based on damage
That's what its new description claims it does

>> No.56396012

>>56395497
It & it alone fucks with my framerate in weird inconsistent ways so I can't exactly tell. Have been able to clear it with half the IDs tho, none of which were even at the 2nd fandom level.
>Maybe it's better to invest in Spd more than anything
Yeah lel IDK if the "recommended upgrades" thing on the selection screen was always there but I sure as shit noticed the "Speed x7" it has. An inability to make some breathing room has certainly been the deciding factor in all of my deaths. I haven't gone all-in on Speed so far but have definitely given boosts to it more value. Think I maxed the Lightness Stamp for one run because of it.

>> No.56396038

>>56395335
I think the problem is that the greed and usaken stamp can both only proc once per attack/projectile and Suisei's swing is slow as hell. Sure, you'll probably get one pretty good coin for the swing, and another for the usaken explosion. Meanwhile, Irys is firing off like ten projectiles per shot that can each proc one greed drop and one usaken explosion which in turn procs one greed drop
That's 2 vs 20 drops so unless the damage really makes up for that, you're not going to be making more money with a swing

>> No.56396042

>>56395950
If it actually does that it must have an easily reached cap of some kind because it's barely noticeable. The increased chance to get coins is very noticeable though.

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>>56395459
If you put all your skill points in to 'cute', there are none left to go into 'smart'

>> No.56396098

>>56395881
>passive
Don't you still have to feed them like 20 minutes worth of food and fishing every time though?

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56396103

>>56396042
>easily reached cap of some kind because it's barely noticeable
That's probably what it is, yeah.

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56396185

>>56396098
It's like 5-6 items to fully restore their stamina from zero, and once they hit max level they no longer change food preference. It's manageable especially because I'd be fishing anyways heh

>> No.56396215

>>56396038
>once per attack/projectile
You know, this makes sense. I would've expected enemies to drop coins as much as their heads fall off, but it seemed more like one coin per swing.
btw, with 1K damage, it seemed like coin drop values were only around 40 each (stage 3, level 5 super chat)
Where do I send feedback...

>> No.56396218

>>56395577
>Personal challenge
>all the collab SFX get annoying AF
>easier on poltato PCs without said SFX, probably
>good for various kinds of experimental runs since it halves the drop pool
IIRC the main reason was coin farming, since it lets you skip to stat-ups & coin packs 63 levels earlier than otherwise.

>> No.56396290

>>56396185
is level 4 manager and gold star the highest you can go?

>> No.56396327

>>56396098
NTA but I just leave the game running while I'm watching something or eating and check in every now and then to plant crops/feed workers/collect fish. Minimal effort and after playing for one day they're already making over 100k collectively during one stage.

>> No.56396351

>>56396218
makes sense. thanks

>> No.56396371

>>56396215
Maxed out Irys weapon and it looks like it's 7 double projectiles, so if each of them proc a coin both on itself and on an explosion, that's 14 coins per shot compared to Suisei's 2

>> No.56396448

>>56396327
Fair enough, I saved up too much money from 100%ing the game the last update so I could buy almost everything right away. Don't feel like I need to grind any more this time around

>> No.56396516
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56396516

How do I get the cutting board & which characters is this referring to?

>> No.56396537
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56396537

>>56396290
lvl 4 is the cap for manager, the workers can go up to platinum stars. Haven't figured out the exact formula for how much coins you get per stamina/efficiency yet, though.
I only know that
>you get +1 efficiency/+2 stamina per level
>they collect coins equal to their efficiency level per 'gold collecting instance' (but one 'gold collecting instance' is not equal to 1 point of stam usage)
Like, my deadbeat collected 34456 coins in total when I let it use up its 149 max points of stamina (beginning with 0 coins). That number can be divided by its 59 efficiency value, but I have no idea how those 34456 coins are related to its stamina value.

>> No.56396591

>>56396537
thanks!

>> No.56396593

>>56396516
Do 2 Ina runs.

>> No.56396602

>>56396516
You get it by surviving 10 minutes as Ina I think. Then you just play a flat chested character and use the cutting board to unlock the ball

>> No.56396650

Anyone have an issue where clicking off somehow ends up making it so almost 0 inputs work in game? Controller stops doing anything, and it seems like 0 keys on my keyboard work, but aiming and clicking with my mouse still works. Died to this twice today. Restarting the game fixes it, but that's obviously a run killer.

>> No.56396690

>>56396516
Ina, Gura, or pretty much any flattie

>> No.56396706
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56396706

you DO name your workers, don't you /cure/?

>> No.56396763

>>56396706
I don't even need coins to bother with that stuff.

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56396768

>>56396706

>> No.56396770

>>56396593
>>56396602
>>56396690
Thanks, but which one are those?
I'm not exactly familiar with these vtuber missies.
Please post images.

>> No.56396825

>>56396770
The 2nd and 3rd girl on the top row both work.

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56396841

>>56396770

>> No.56396862
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56396862

>>56396770
This is my delicious flat wife, Ina. Survive 10 minutes with her to unlock the cutting board. It will have increased efficiency on any flat chested character. You can check unlocking conditions for items by looking at the character specific tab in the achievement menu, btw

>> No.56396880

>>56396770
dayummmmm i still think its crazy how people don't even know vtubers and they're playing the game

>> No.56396891

>>56396770
Well you can read names, right?

>> No.56396901

>>56396841
Shion and Ollie are also FLAT.

>> No.56396936

>>56396880
I blame Asmon.

>> No.56397033
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56397033

Mouse aiming when? I don't feel like using a gamepad.

>> No.56397055

Why the fuck would you put an item behind this stupid-ass haste achievement?

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56397068

>>56396862
I see, hmm yes. Thank you.
>>56396880
>>56396891
I just wanted you guys to post the flatties.

>> No.56397079

>>56397033
You can literally mouse aim, just left click ingame to toggle it

>> No.56397088

So how do you think the rest of the gens will be split up in waves? Like will we get all of JP before Advent? Will Stars ever be in?

Also have the devs talked about what new features and modes they want to add in the future?

>> No.56397101

>>56397033
Left click nigga.

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56397122

>>56397079
>>56397101
Ope, I'm dumb. Thank you.

>> No.56397173

>>56391046
just don't take halu bro

>> No.56397216

Does anyone know if the "no items" achievement means "no weapons OR items" or "no items but weapons are fine"?

>> No.56397234

>>56396901
Sex.

>> No.56397260

>>56396880
I barely know them, aside from liking the game I'm surprised at how much I like the music.

>> No.56397272

>>56396901
Is Anya considered flat for this game or what she has schrodingers tits

>> No.56397274

>>56396537
Since you seem to have figured out the management system pretty well and I just hit level 4, what do you look for in effective platinum star workers? I assume max level is the most most important stat, followed by efficiency, stamina, then exp rate, but what values are worth keeping and what would you just ignore and reroll?

>> No.56397297

>>56396706
I spent 500K coins rerolling the first worker to see if my name showed up, to no avail.
I'll do it again when my manager rank is maxed, assuming the price of 1st worker is still 500.

I know I can rename them but I want to confirm my ego. I doubt it got rejected, it's not a name like ShionCockSlayer420

>> No.56397346

>>56397216
Weapons are fine but there is an achievement for both, so you may as well. Go to the shop to disable them all.

>> No.56397388

>>56395593
i swear axolotls silently got rate-uped and have single-handedly ended every fucking combo past 30 (at least on normal game speed)

>> No.56397408

>>56397297
uhhhhh, the dev put in the names of the play testers in there, so unless you were a part of that, you probably won't see it...

>> No.56397412

>>56397297
You can just open holocure.exe in the game folder with something like Notepad++ and Ctrl+F your name. If it's in, it's there in plain text.

>> No.56397498

>>56396880
It's a quality game and the VS genre is popular so streamers jumped on it because they're always desperate for the next big content thing.

>> No.56397541

>>56397408
It's not play testers, Kay put out a form for anyone to submit their name and fanbase and just filtered out the potentially bad ones

>> No.56397557

>>56397088
>Like will we get all of JP before Advent?
Yes. The only way this wouldn't be true is if Kay Yu is a fucking mad man and finishes the rest all at once or if Bijou goes Kaela mode.

>> No.56397614
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56397614

>>56397274
>I assume max level is the most most important stat, followed by efficiency, stamina
As I said, one level is +1 efficiency and +2 stamina, so if you have
>worker A
>max lvl 50, 8 efficiency, 54 stamina
>worker B
>max lvl 48, 10 efficiency, 60 stamina
worker B is objectively better because he'll end up at the same efficiency level and have +2 stamina over worker A.
But honestly, don't worry too much about minmaxxing them, rerolling costs quite a bunch (up to 5k/roll) and the workers aren't that different from each other. You can compare picrel with my deadbeat in this post >>56396537 and then look at this post >>56395881 to see that they bring in pretty similar amounts of money

>> No.56397626

>>56397412
You're a credit, anon. It's there, and my ego is satisfied.

>> No.56397627

how do you even unlock the house? I've bought out the shop and done all the stages except 3H (haven't tried) but I'm guessing it's the 2nd row of ??? on the title screen that's still locked.

>> No.56397686

>>56397557
He started with EN so he might rush EN3. Wouldn't be surprised to see them added after JP3+4

>> No.56397778

>>56397686
no reason to rush it, fanbase needs to settle in with their mascots before he can do anything

>> No.56397857

>>56397627
You're supposed to unlock it just for clearing the first stage. Worked on my machine but I started a new file. Have you tried getting a first time clear with a character? Maybe the clear check is bugged or something.

>> No.56397927

>>56397778
It will be months before JP patch, and then months till the next one that might have EN3. Half a year total at least. More than enough to create memes to reference.

>> No.56397967

whats the best item set up for leaderboard runs?
glasses, halu, shackle, candy, plushy all seem needed, membership for damage and reduction last? (obviously jingis as well)

>> No.56397990

>>56397272
IIRC there's a chart on the Bouncy Ball page of the wiki. Only the completely flat tier counts for that achievement

>> No.56398007

>>56397778
Bijou is already there with her pebbles. Do other Advents have mascot design or just names like ruffians or jailbirds?

>> No.56398043
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56398043

>>56398007
Jailbirds are certified fat fucks

>> No.56398078

>>56397967
I dunno, I'm still working on it. The only things that seem absolutely necessary are Halu, Glasses, Membership. There's also food that makes you invincible for five seconds every 30 seconds, that might be good on a lot of characters to get breathers against Yagoo. I also don't know if solo weapon or a full loadout is better for score, I've only been doing solo weapon so far where Piman is also necessary.

>> No.56398241

>>56397967
Extremely dependant on character. Halu and glasses are the two absolute universal must haves though.

>> No.56398247

Moona is a skill filter

>> No.56398321

>>56397627
Stop using cheat engine

>> No.56398334

>>56398241
ive been trying with miko, those 6 seem best for her but idk if i am missing something
for collabs im generally trying for the snowflower sake, bonebros and lightning weiner

>> No.56398344

>>56397614
Thanks anon, decided I'd just settle for any that would end up with at least efficiency 50 at max and left it there.

>> No.56398566

>>56398007
If I'll need to wait even more to play Botan I will personally visit Kay and break his ankles

>> No.56398610
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56398610

who said you had to stop at 500hp
sana is a certified fat fuck
when people said some builds could just sit in the ginguskan instead of thinking its bad cause you have to run away from the yagoos yeah i mean granted its >super headphones carrying it but it does work

>> No.56398876

>>56396841
>>56396901
You both forgot Matsuri.

>> No.56398909
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56398909

Do Kusogaki Shackles cancel out the effect of the Unit Stamp?

>> No.56398913

>>56398876
I thought Festival has small boobies, but not flat.

>> No.56398916

>>56395017
Kaela is SS for sure

>> No.56399091

>>56383721
endless bump before archive

>> No.56399474

>>56398610
I need sanas mega tits on my face dumbass

>> No.56399562

Are there Stat caps in the game?
Like obviously 100% Crit is the obvious one but do I really have 300% Speed and Attack or does it stop affecting me after 200? Same question with Haste.

>> No.56399570

>>56399474
>face
She left her limiter behind. One of Sana's nipples are bigger than you.

>> No.56399595

>>56397627
Are you a hacker?

>> No.56399632
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56399632

>>56399562
Check the wiki for haste caps

>> No.56399714

>>56379639
I just tried and couldn't even hit 400 when last boss showed up.
With food, glasses, PP, Halu and bandages.
It all comes down to radom 10% hp up?

>> No.56399773

>>56399632
What about Attack and Speed caps?

>> No.56399810

>>56399562
Crit has a cap, haste has a cap but it's different for each character. I'm pretty sure other stats don't have a cap but due to linear scaling you'll benefit less from stacking the same thing repeatedly(no this is not diminishing returns that's something completely different) unless you're going for a very specific build that actually wants to stack a single stat(HP is a good example of this so many things scale with HP now.)

>> No.56399830

>>56399632
where? i asked earlier and nobody posted it. i've searched the wiki and google for haste, attack speed, weapon etc and can't see this list.

>> No.56399847

The fuck is curse ball? OC?

>> No.56399873

>>56399830
I was lying, I thought it had it under stats/details for each weapon but i guess not.

>> No.56399897

>>56399873
i appreciate your honesty.

>> No.56399905

>>56397088
Dev confirmed Stars at the start and double-confirmed it with his own words in a recent-ish Youtube interview with a guy called Koefficient. The full thing might have answers to your last question.
The precedent so far is ~10 characters per update, which usually means 2 gens. I daresay next update will be JP3+4, and the one after that'll be JP5+6. Same exact pattern as the first 3 updates.
>>56397686
>>56397927
>>56398007
Kay showed Stars on his brainstorming spreadsheet over a year ago, right alongside all the JP & ID gens. Advent is the first Hololive gen to debut since then unless you WANT to count Tempus ahuehuehue. He'll probably gives the boys priority (the core 9 at least, fuck Uproar) since he already has god-knows how much groundwork planned out for their update. Advent deserve at least as much thought & attention; you wouldn't want them to be upstaged by the m*les would you?

>> No.56399934

I feel like it's just so much easier to get Gachikoi now it feels weird

>> No.56399937
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56399937

>>56398247
Sh-shut up!

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oh "im die" benefitets from the +1 projectile enchantment
if you rolled it on both parts before combining i bet it would get pretty silly

>> No.56400323

>>56399847
Could be a reference to all the own-goals in that Mii game. I know some EN have some popular clips of that. Fauna's comes to mind.

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