/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>56394223
>can't remember Ollie
>"OH!!! it's Fubuki and Korone!"
Fucking clout chasers man

>>56394223
>I used to talk with her all the time
this is the statement you should be questioning, tectone is a known liar and clout-chaser
he probably dm'd her once about setting up a collab with some other vtubers or something

>>56394223
Sad

>>56394223
Ollie-chama...

Was Ayame poster right?

>>56394223
Tectone is a mess.
I wish people were nicer to Ollie. She seems like a real sweetheart

>>56394223
Ollie who?

She deserves it.

>>56394223
>tectone otherwise known as kektone
Pathological liar and a clout-chaser.

>>56395527
she doesn't.
you don't have to like ollie to see who's the dickhead in this situation.

Ollie seems like such a good girl from everything you hear, but then there's yubigate, ugly-seanigger-man-blabbing-into-her-mic gate, and being a cumrag for e-celebs... Can't say her fall is undeserved.

>>56395585
Anon, she does deserve it because everyone knew they'd use her and discard her. But she ignored the people that warned her. The worst part is that she didn't learn her lesson. All the people that tried leeching from her when she was big are gone but small indies are still trying to pump and dump her. And she's letting them. If they ever get big they'll forget she exists too.
Maybe one day she'll learn her lesson.

>>56395749
No, you see..., you are wrong.

>>56394223
>Kektone

>>56395585
No she deserves it.

>>56394223
Didn't Connor drop her too? I remember her simping him during that era kek

>>56394871
QRD? Any Yabs?

>>56395920
Uh? Really? Another destiny copycat?why do people care aabout those faggots?

>>56395585
Yeah, Ollie for not listening to everyone who told her this was going to happen.
You reap what you sow.

>>56395845
This, even her manager pretty much said stop doing that shit including giving shitty clipper clout.

>>56395984
Fortunately iron lung took that faggot away

>>56395845
>>56395977
>>56396032
Is this just a rrat due to a misunderstanding or what the fuck are you all talking about

>>56395585
>I WANT TO CHANGE HOLOLIVE’S CULTURE AND BREAK THE BARRIERS
She deserved worse.

Ollie's main problem is that she's so much of a nice girl that she doesn't know how to say no
>I'm nobody, can i collab with you?
no
>can i come over to your house? I'll be quiet
no
>can i finger you while you stream? come on it'll be hot
no
See? It's that easy Ollie, you can do it, I'm rooting for you

>>56394832
this is what's good about Hololive
ecelebs are monsters, they won't think twice about using you and then discarding you
with a corpo that values cohesion above all, you don't have to worry about that shit, you're not attaching yourself to anyone who's not already attached to you by virtue of being in the same comapny

there are Holos that used to be close and drifted away, but noone gets really left behind
look at Ollie, ecelebs don't give her the time of day now that her numbers have collapsed, but HoloID is still there for her, they keep her involved, they do their best to keep her relevant

>>56395984
Pretty much after his Ironmouse act got popular he left holos alone.

>>56394223
Once they realized an indo runt wouldn't get them in with the real prize (EN and JP) they dumped her ASAP

>>56396207
>>56395749
yubigate's a rrat, it never happened
the rest is true tho, and it's "her fault" for being a dumb naive kid but it's 1000x the fault of the people that took advantage of her

>>56394223
>>56395527
>>56395749
Ollie? More like the queen of dead subs
No better example of cluster B personality disorders in Hololive

>>56396032
she's not even a bad person, she's sweet and clearly loves hololive more than anything, but she needs to learn that doing favors to people who will do nothing to repay you is the easiest way to get exploited by leeches. she didn't stand up nearly enough for herself, and she wanted too much to be "everyone's friend".
life just doesn't work this way, and while i love ollie as a person, when definitely failed as a creator, at least partially.

>>56394223
deserved, unityfaggots are a tumor and they should learn first hand not to meddle with low tier eceleb scum

>>56396482
The first few times okay, but if that keeps happening the "dumb naive kid" has part of the fault too

>>56394223
Some who were early to the holoen/id train didn't understand just how big it was and took it for granted. Letting fleshtubers take advantage of your status was dumb.

>>56395493
Holy, Ollie has the second highest subs on ID, how the situation is that ugly? All of her viewers died and turned into zombies?

>>56395994
Not so much yabs he's just been giga obnoxious his entire life. He's been chased out of every community he's been in because he just picks fights with other creators and makes shitty low quality videos with no information. And his wife divorced him.

>>56394223
>I used to talk with her all the time!
and people here call me parasocial

>>56394223
She was too eager jumping into to the streaming world, she didn't know any better...

>>56397178
She did something.

>>56397449
she should have acted like kaela with hakka in this case. showing that you do not have interest in the person, and get them to stop trying to be in your circle for fame.
people who profited off her are pieces of shit, but as sad as it is to admit it, it's her own fault.

>>56394223
good kuck indeed

>>56397615
I know she keeps spamming apex, male collabs and shit like that, but damn, being bellow Anya "mobile gamer" Melfissa and Airani "too busy fighting AI art" Iofifteen is pretty insane

>>56395984
All of the ID’s at the time used to respond to him. All of them and mostly all of the Vtubers “dropped him”, when in reality is that he stopped giving a damn (mostly because everytime he interacted everyone started to create drama out of nowhere) and just keep by streaming with Ironmouse. I think the funniest part of the Calli shit, is how embarrassing Calli handled it, and this nigga was just chilling with the pink demon whore.

>>56395493
LET'S GOOOOO IOFIIII YOU GOT THIS GIRL!!!!!

>>56396144
Ollie did a ton of shit with e-celebs in her first few months, and they all stopped collabing with her when they realized they couldn't use her to get collabs with Myth.

>>56395994
He’s loud, obnoxious and annoying. Mostly the hate that comes his way is LSF and the MiHoYo communities, so he’s pretty much just an annoying fag that just gets people railed up. The only part that’s weird about him is his ex marriage with a vtuber, Fream. It was extremely toxic on stream, and their excuse is that they married too young

>>56398018
learn to read retard
people are saying he dropped the ID girls, which is exactly what you're confirming: like the good leech he is, he attached himself to the meatiest prize and dropped the lesser meals

>>56398018
>out of nowhere
>"Mori, can you tell us about how idol culture is shit and full of incels?"

>>56395493
Idk if homo collabing is worth it. Those homo collabers who lost their viewers either fell for a twitter woke meme or just wanted to collab with homos out of sexual interest but I don't think those homos are such good ikemen guys IRL.

It's fun to think that everyone on the chess tournament that she entered doesn't give a shit about her for years now, Ollie is literally pump and dump in person kek

I don't watch Ollie nor I like a lot of things about her, but damn it I can't bring myself to hate her. She seems like a total sweetheart, I just feel sorry for her

>>56398348
>fun
Why is it fun? Ollie is retarded but by all accounts she is a genuine kind person who just gets used by clout goblins. Zoomer made zoomer mistakes. It doesn't even only happen to zoomers either, fucking hag fox got tossed aside by ecelebs too. I only hope she has learned the lesson.

>>56397119
Sometimes I forget the lasting effects of the Connor arc until I remember Ollie is the only Holoro member who doesn't have a permanent split thread.

kobo and ollie are the only holos I watch, also tectone is a nice guy, he's just loud.

>>56395749
She's a good girl, but also naive and stubborn.

thankfully advent seems to understand how important idol status is, and the number one rule is to stay away from eceleb trash

>>56397220
He screwed over some players in the Arknights community by tricking them into buying or potentially skipping on different units that he claimed were good, got into arguments with other streamers about it then threw a hissy fit when the owners of the game refused to sponsor him or something.
He baited a lot of people into whaling on Sinoalice after being one of the people who falsly got the publisher to go through with bringing it to NA. Proceeded to run away once it turns out the game is bad after all his fans spent hundreds to get into his group.
Most of his genshin arc was him attacking other content creators and trying to use his clout to force Mihoyo into fucking over the F2P crowd.
Also the stuff with him abusing his wife for years.

>>56400105
meant for >>56395994

>>56395994
They turned Kiara into a real person

>>56394223
No shit. This is most obvious with Connor who hasn't spoken to her in ages. I wonder if he was the one who supposedly didn't want to play offline because it wasn't content. Ollie really was too trusting.

>>56399527
It's fun because she keeps doing that, if you see a kid fall into a hole you probably won't find that fun, but if you see that same kid falling at the same hole every time it turns comical

>>56400489
The fact that Ironmouse herself says that Connor doesn't want to do anything unless it's content (tm) it's pretty indicative of his character

>>56396144
She genuinely whored herself out to any e-celeb that gave her a crumb of attention.

>>56400949
>The fact that Ironmouse herself says that Connor doesn't want to do anything unless it's content (tm) it's pretty indicative of his character
Really? Damn, I actually feel bad for her too if thats the case.

Idk who this tard is but Amerimutt or spic e-celebs wouldnt care at all about sea vtubers. They only think you are an asian weirdo with a shit esl accent. Its obviously her own fault but never collab with western shitters if you want to grow as a human

>>56394871
Ollie is fat and she seems nice when she collab with my fat 2 views healer so she"s cool in my book.

>>56396352
That's any good corpo honestly.

>>56401442
he has played apex with ollie and moona offline before

>>56396032
Genuine question, anon. I'm not attacking you. With "everyone" do you mean /vt/ posters or did she actually get superchats and comments warning her about e-celebs?

>>56401783
Only because the possibility of interacting with the bigger holos was still on the table

>>56396352
I don't understand unityfags that want that to change, you can point towards any big fleshtubers who streams and there's a big probability of him already being on several dramas, inviting those guys to vtubing, principally hololive, is asking for drama

>>56394223
sorry kektone but you're a few norwoods too late.

>>56394871
>She seems like a real sweetheart
She absolutely is but she's got 0% common sense

>>56394223
Never heard of this dude. To me, Ollie is an e-celeb of this interaction.

>>56401895
I'm pretty sure management and other holos talked to her about it

>>56395493
Kaela flying high, you love to see it

>>56394223
>Using Tectone, well known western menhera, as a drama starter
Oh shut the fuck up. Ollie doesn't need Tectone.
If you worship fleshtuber so much, why not let them anally violate you?

>>56394223
she realized at one point all those e-celebs dumped her for the next new trend once the "omg fleshtuber x vtuber in one screen!" hype from normalfags dies. bet at least half of those dudes in that chess tournament forgot her name too roru
her ccv keeps dropping and you start seeing her in 3views range despite she had the most views in gen2 she even adressed this on stream
at least this way she tries to just be a zoomer instead of zoomer but thrice as retarded

>>56394223
Just make her use a non-zombie model permanently

>>56395493
Where is Kobo?

>>56395493
Ioficoin throu the roof

>>56394832
This becomes more sour once you realize the extents of it, even well known clippers in the Holo community hate hololive, they are just the most monetizable to clip it seems, someone posted their convos on discord here saying they would rather just do nijiclips and that they hate hololive as a whole and that they are aclimatizing the clipwatchers with some nijisanji references to finally stop clipping the Hologirls.
No e-celeb is your friend with the amount of clout you get from Hololive, no clipper, etc. You're a tool and once your popularity drops a single bar you become fucking irrelevant to them.

This is just getting sad...
I don't even care about her numbers, I don't want to see that optimism crushed...

>>56394223
Jesas

>>56403979
Ollie was a combination everyone feared being in Hololive
>E-celeb dick chaser
>Wants to destroy the barrier between Stars and Hololive
>Would trick their genmates into play valo with her and ''coincidentally'' invite an e-celeb to play with them
>Organized an amongus tournament inviting many cgdct Jp senpais and the surprise guesses nobody knew but her were the stars, which the latter saw what she was doing and dipped the fuck out after giving her an earful.
And I'm sure I missed many more, her hate is justified and I don't see herself recovering any time soon.

>>56405089
She probably didn't stream that day.

>>56406413
But enough about Mori

>>56399527
It's fun because anon posted it and when I read it I smiled and almost giggled.

>>56401895
i don't watch her stream much but she did got few of those from id fans which she has to address on stream and being stubborn about it

>>56406413
Most recent thing she did was that Apex tournament iirc
She refused to tell people who was in the mixed portion and it ended up causing headaches for the JP girls.

>>56401895
idk if it was a larp but i remember she got one supa from the jp

>>56400489
Oh boy I still remember the whole ''connor always wishes me good morning and makes sure I'm eating properly'', girl got used so much by someone that just wanted to be part of the hololive culture

>>56400489
>>56400949
what a leech.

>>56396166
Hopefully her fat ass only breaks the floor barrier into her basement. That or she breaks the barrier for first 2view Hololive stream.

>alienate their indo viewers at some point indo peeps also throw her under the bus
she deserved it desu. ppl said holo is strict, but here i see what ollie did was all on her. maybe her intentions was good to make holo to reach wider audiences in the west but she choose the wrong e-celebs to do that . stupid

>>56409112
>ppl said holo is strict
In no way holo is strict, I feel like chuuba can talk about how she got gangbanged and at best she will get a bit on the wrist.

>>56409282
>I feel like chuuba can talk about how she got gangbanged and at best she will get a bit on the wrist.
lmao

>>56406413
>which the latter saw what she was doing and dipped the fuck out after giving her an earful
are there clips or anything about this?

>>56395845
I mean she means well though. She wants to believe the best in people. It's sad that the real world doesn't match her idea of it.

>>56394223
why do you watch him?

>>56394223
When they see her fat hands they all go away

>>56399525
aside from iofi who is just boring, true, everyone in ID have their own thread even if Anya's thread is split with Petra

>>56408777
Silvervale is proven right once again.

>>56418037
If you understand Indonesian Iofi stream is semi-GFE

>>56395544
He should try being an hero

>>56418484
bro do i have something for you here

https://streamable.com/1tneth
https://streamable.com/z1og48

>>56394223
>watching tectone
hard pass and she deserves whatever she gets for associating with him lmao

>>56402043
This, she's fucking retarded I swear. All she had to do is get even a sliver of common sense and she can bounce back. I don't wanna say she's a hopeless case but considering her track record...

Ollie is underrated. Sue me, fuckers.

>>56408381
is this the one nene was involved in that made her have a mini menhera episode later?

>>56419208
yet now shes throwing herself at astel....

>>56396399
Thank you, Ironmouse, for saving us from that garbage

>>56394871
Ollie is a pickme. Nothing good can come from supporting her, unfortunately

>>56419555
Ollie is just happy and wants to share her success, as well as be friends with everyone. Unfortunately, despite life shitting on her at several points, she assumes everyone else is the same way and thinks that if they aren't, they should be.

>>56409924
>>56406413
this sounds funny. I would like to know more about this, specially what she was told if she was scolded by someone involved.

people here keep saying ollie is a sweetheart, but from reading this thread I'm getting the impression that she is selfish and disregards other girls opionions on male/e-celeb collabbing in order to push her ideals on what hololive should be.

>>56418857
>https://streamable.com/z1og48
I should start watching Iofi, that's hot.

>>56395493
has this girl at least made peace with her choices?

>>56419666
no no no anon, caring about others makes you a 'leech' and wishing others well makes her a 'pick-me' that's a /vt/ sister law

>オリー主催でAPEX大会を開くみたいですが、ホロスタの面々を呼んでいる意味がわかりません。 何故男を絡ませるのですか?JPホロリスがホロメンとホロスタが絡むことを嫌っている、それを望んでいないと理解していますか?ホロスタがホロリスから腫れ物扱いされていることを理解していますか? 日本には「可能性を生み出しただけでアウトなんだよ」という言葉があります、ホロスタと絡みたいならIDだけでやってください、JPホロメンを巻き込まないでください、余計なことをしないでください、リスナーが不快になることをしないでください。迷惑です。
DeepL Translation
>It looks like Ollie is hosting an APEX tournament, but I don't understand the point of inviting the holosta guys. Why are you involving men, do you understand that JP Horolis does not like the holomen and holostas getting involved, does he not want that? Do you understand that Holosta is treated like a tumor by Holoris? There is a saying in Japan, "You are out just for creating a possibility", if you want to tangle with holostars, please do it only with ID, please do not involve JP holomen, please do not do anything unnecessary, please do not do anything that makes listeners uncomfortable. It is annoying.

Here's Nene's response to the invitation and seeing the stars being invited
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=8546&v=U5teUXAv4TY&feature=youtu.be
>Ollie-chan invited me to an Apex event
>I didn't know who would be participating
>I'm not sure how it would go, isn't there only 7 JP members?
>Ollie invited me a very long time ago, so I think she thought through it very much
>I haven't played apex in Avery long time, hasn't even updated it
>there seems to be a hololive only and holostars only group
>I'll be participating in the hololive only event

Ollie goes out of her way trying to trick the JP girls

>>56394223
Tell me something I don’t know OP

>>56420662
"people" it's just one guy lmao

>>56394223
I don't understand Ollie, she always say how much she loves hololive and holomems yet outside of ID she barely collabs with them

>>56421490
i wish i could make autistic men seethe on the internet and get money out of it

>>56421688
maybe she wants to but the other girls are now wary of her trickery.

>>56420662
>>56421490
aside from the amogus collab which we don't even have the full picture on I don't think she has pushed it on anyone. The APEX tourney was segregated from the get-go and only the girls who wanted to took part in the mixed portion, the only issue was her waiting so long to announce the participants and causing some of the girls to have to reassure their fans they wouldn't be part of the holo/stars part.
I have never seen Ollie bring up homos or push that shit with any girl who is purposely avoiding it.

>>56420662
I will never forgive her for dragging Moona into collabing with that white devil that ironlung is lusting over.

>>56420662
Those two aren't mutually exclusive, she's in fact sweet but she has a pea brain and thinks everyone just want to have a good time together no matter the type of content or who she is collabing with, and that isn't the true since she fell so hard

I like Ollie, she's sweet. I just wish it was me that fingered her on stream.

>>56422227
was there ever a definitive, Occam's razor kind of answer to what happened there?

>>56394223
Ollie is by far hololive biggest fall from grace, maybe even on the whole vtuber sphere

>>56421688
I remember when Usaken was prepping for the first summer festival, Ollie was trying to be an attention whore on the background while Usaken was busy with their group collab and everyone just ignored her. Was pretty funny desu.

>>56396867
>she loves hololive
no she doesnt, not at its current state at least. she was literally trying to turn it into nijisanji. bitch got so desperate she tried to trick jp members into collabing with the stars

>>56395493
take a look on what she streams that day.

>>56422503
Such nice girl

>>56422361
I don't remember well how that arc was undone, I only remember lots of doomposting before the stream and when that happened I only watched Aqua's race with Towa and Suisei

>>56422346
Towa and Matsuri exist so no.

>>56394223
Tectone litrally lie 100% of the time

>>56423919
Towa is bellow most holos but I don't think she fits in that spot and Matsuri is a good competition but Ollie literally goes on 3view area with almost the same number of subs with Matsuri, if you go to 3view as a holo you're definitely doing something very wrong, even considering ID shit viewership

>>56423919
Towa did fall, but was able to carve a niche that works for her and her viewers. Ollie just fell into near complete irrelevancy. Matsuri always seemed out of place in hololive to me.

>>56394223
a better question is, why the fuck is OP watching tectone in the first place?

>>56397747
What happen with Kaela?

>>56401679
Nami is not fat

>>56420662
True, but you have to understand that in her zoomer pink colored world that's a good thing, she didn't do it out of malice, rather the opposite

>>56421490
I heard about it but thought it was just /vt/ schizo ratts but to do this to Nene of all people. Ollie is even worse than Mori. Holy shit.

>It's kektone
Retard

>>56421490
i still don't get the issue of inviting holostars. Aren't they from the same company?

>>56426532
Ollie, get off /vt/, now!!!

>>56423919
Matsuri and Towa were always like this, so there was never a fall. Towa in particular got her numbers pumped by reddit and then a bunch of new JP's picked her up despite her antics and constant homo collabs.

>>56426055
This is pretty accurate.
On an unrelated note, it reminds me of Mika from Blue Archive

>>56400105
>screwed over some players in the Arknights community
nta, but that's not technically correct. He had shit opinions and isn't a good analyst, so his opinion on what units were good or bad was just him being an idiot without any actual depth to it. He wasn't technically wrong, but, he missed the point of the game and the units entirely and made a point to start drama about it with other AK content creators. So, basically, he would go around and see what other people posted about the unit, and if it was different than his tier list he would attack them. The person getting attacked would be offended and make a video essay. Rinse and repeat. It got annoying so most AK players just called him an asshole. He got butthurt about it and somehow did some mental gymnastics and played the victim. Calling the AK community toxic. kwab, he did the same in genshin but got scared since genshin is actually toxic.

>>56426532
Nice bait, have a (You).

>>56426532
The women here hate anything involving men

I actually believe world peace is achievable because tectone exists. Hes so instantly hateable that he can unite the world in hating him. He is a cancer that must be wiped clean. Im also like 90 percent sure next otk rapist will be him

>>56426870
Holy shit, I never watched this guy but isn't he bald, bearded and on his 30s? How can a guy like that be such menhera, puts even the seething 2views vtubers to shame

>>56427302
Only a true man watches Vox rape asmr #127

>>56395994
https://clips.twitch.tv/CautiousChillyKumquatKeyboardCat-6-nueZtXbgRShVBx

>>56427503
> WE HAVE SPONSORSHIP, EVERYONE SHUT THE FUCK UP
Kek

>>56427503
holyshit that was funny

>>56395493
No way this is real, I always see them averaging at 1k per stream, even iofi.

>>56427709
>>56427752
Soda saved it, yeah

>>56428008
ID overlap hell.
it's always like that. also they are collabing, playing pirate games for the #21412 time already.

>>56427503
>Ollie accepts "friendship" from people like that
Holy retard

>>56426532
When I ask for a coca cola and I get a sprite back, I get mad, same here, I don't want homos in my hololive girls stream, if I wanted that for some reason I would watch them ontheir solo stuff, but I don't want to watch males, in fact according to the numbers not even the homobeggars want to watch them.

>>56394223
Take your meds

>>56396482
Yubigate actually is so clearly obvious if you watch it with the timestamps image. The kiss at the end really removes any doubt in my mind. It's so blatantly obvious it happened that the only rrat part is that someone else fingered her. She could have done it herself, but that wouldn't explain the kiss. However, there probably is a way you could argue it was masturbation even if I can't think of one. So it definitely happened, but we don't know if it was her or someone else doing it to her.

Anybody who says the entire event didn't happen simply did not watch it or loves Ollie and will defend her no matter what. There is no possible way you could watch it and not think she was doing something lewd. However, since 99% of thread readers are newfags who haven't seen it and the timestamped image with it, they will just believe it is ridiculous, when in reality, it blatantly happened. The event itself is not the rrat, since that did happen, it's whose fingers it was that is the rrat.

I want to say some hateful things about Ollie but this thread pretty much summarized it for me already. 500 average viewers despite being a 1M+ channel under HOLOLIVE label, goddamn how much of a fuck up she is

>>56395493
Finana rival

>>56419339
kill yourself

>>56408381
That's not what happened.

>>56409924
No because that didn't happen. It's true she was organizing a big Among Us collab with Holopro members, but Holostars were too busy to join so she ended up with just girls. Sure you can make rrats that the guys dipped out but none of them ever said shit. Also Ollie literally commissioned artwork for that collab, which would mean members would need to be confirmed at the very least a month ahead.

>>56394223
ollie and picrel deserved worse

>>56421490
There is literally nothing in that Nene bit that implies she was tricked.

Also isn't that SC the same faggot who made Miko cry?

>>56395493
do some of the people replying to this know kaela has had male collabs or do they just not watch streams?

>>56421490
The doomposting around that was incredible, even Ollie being a massive retarded she knew she has to address that and say that the homos are isolated and only members that want aka Towa, Bae, Mori and indogs will play with them

>>56430772
Every indog did that, at least Kaela does it so little and she streams so much that majority of people don't even know

>>56428938
yap, i dont watch phasmo
so someone mention it, i ask, give me link and time.
heck, Top comment on vod now is "it happend, get over it" kek
the worst par are the "i dont want to" and Reine "tankhs for the performance" at the end, suggestiv
who knows what Anya thought of all that tho

>>56428938
It always seemed pretty blatant to me. Her whispering “stop” and the facial tracking capturing her moaning and closing her eyes is pretty blatant. I don’t know if Reine and Anya knew exactly what was going on but they seemed aware that Ollie was acting weird too.

It makes me doubt her some times. I think her pushing boundaries is more about the thrill than about her having some naive worldview.

>>56396352
Towa never fell, her numbers were virtually unchanged after her scandal (her numbers were shit to begin with). She actually got more viewers after she started joining FPS tournaments and collabing with males. Now Towa is the most popular member of her gen and is part of some of Hololive's premier units (Startend, PEBOT), having an upcoming album and Sololive, all while having a male collab every week.
Hardly comparable to Ollie.

>>56395984
Everyone dropped her, inclusive the viewers too

>>56431689
Meant for >>56423919

>>56431689
Because Towa keeps that stuff to the side. She’s not going to force aqua at gu point to stream with Mondo and Cpt and other males. Also saying Towa is the most popular of yonkisei is dumb, because all of Yonkisei is pretty big with each member.

>>56405905
>even well known clippers in the Holo community hate hololive
Source or more info?

>>56431689
Towa is in a way better position than Ollie, but saying she is the most popular of her gen is bullshit, she's a little above Luna, around the same as Watame and bellow Kanata even though Kanata is dead for a while now

>>56431689
bigger than watame? doubt.

>>56431797
NTA but I remember an Okayu clipper started to get away from her once she dove deeper into GFE play, and he hated it. He also cited that he was “busier”, but that’s bullshit because he was losing interest.

>>56431689
>>>>>>>>>>>never fell
If it wasn't for EOPs she would be gone before Aloe, even Fubuki had to come to her rescue and soften the blow

>>56431881
I swear I keep hearing the story but it never makes sense. Did Towa seriously get fired over a male voice?

>>56431924
Remember, she LIED about it being a manager, newfag. That's what got her in trouble with Cover at first.

>>56431971
I started watching in 2020 but never cared enough to go deeper into the situation. Seriously?

>>56431924
Besides graduations it was probably the biggest drama in holo and it was the beginning of the fags that say "muh idol culture bad"

>>56432016
Yes, seriously. I like Towa, but it was a misstep on her part that made it worse than it needed to be. But that's all in the past.

>>56426641
The jp FPS scene is also the reason companies like VSPO could carve out a living, it's small and demanding(skills) tho.

>>56432064
I feel like it was always that being thrown around, but that was before me. I think the biggest issue to me between the permissions arc where everyone just was forced back to square 1 with missing archived a plenty, and the china arc. Towa’s yab was bad but I’d barely place it near shit like ame/regis in comparison

>>56431689
Towa's incline is more due to her having more collabs with other Holos ever since gen 5's debut. She used to be a loner who only collabed with Sio and Nose back when she was the runt of gen4 together with Luna.

>>56421688
early on ollie collabed alot with JPs actually then she suddenly stops doing that before holoX came out, really felt like JPs ignoring her because you still see anya and reine hanging out with holoJPs just fine

>>56432834
Ollie’s real issue is that she’s super hyperactive, and not in the Polka way. She can be like Polka, but doesn’t

>>56427503
>>56427709
fucking kek

>>56395984
I remember when that fag first tried to weasel into Hololive on Amelia's stream. "Hey is this the detective girl I've heard so much about" he sent in a yellow SC, then sent another one when she didn't respond. Meanwhile his entourage in chat was trying to hype him up like "oh hey Connor's here! Look look!" and Amelia still ignored it. Was wonderful, then Cali went on Trash Talk, then Ollie and most of ID fell for his leeching (I think Anya and Reine were the only ones that did not). Good riddance to him.

>>56433609
What I hate most about those guys is that they’re such pretentious fools, that their anime takes are pathetic. It’s why I despise most EN fans: they worship retards like that who probably can’t watch a single mecha show, and need constant ADHD action

>>56407075
The only thing Mori and Ollie had in common with that greentext is the first point, the others are Ollie only.

>>56433609
It's so funny when those e-celebs get btfo by holos, only the IDs give them attention if they're lucky kek

Meanwhile Kobo, the “queen” of ID, constantly collabs with e-celebs, and has even more lined up.

>>56434230
Yeah, that's why she lost almost 10k viewers

>>56395493
Holy kek, I guess being a thirsty dyke only goes so far.

>>56433609
it's not like it's one way. Cover got to work with bookwalker like with marine's book, and eventually got some fromsoft perms from Kadokawa by collabing their subsidiary GeeXPlus that produces tt and other global facing influencers.

>>56432834
I don't even remember Ollie collabs with JPs aside from group like among us

>>56434230
yeah but those audience she gets from them? majority of them gone and her drop is as insane as ollie but kobo was lucky she had such insane start she still can get 3-6k ccv average

>>56432834
After how she put Nene on jeopardy with the surprise homostar collab, I won't be surprised if almost all of JP relations were broken that day, but that was half a year ago while her last JP collab seems to be with Haachama in april 14th of 2022, something had to happen before but can't remember, the whole yubigate/connor debacle happened at the start of 2021 and I think it reached the JP side around that time but I don't think that's the reason, I can't remember if she tried to trick another JP girl before into doing a collab with the JP stars, will have to do some reps for it.

>expecting an e-celeb to remember anything past what he ate for lunch 2 hours ago
Big ask

>>56395984
All e-celebs are fair-weather friends at best. They will piss and moan about not getting access to Hololive, then drop them the moment their numbers are bad.

>>56405905
>>56431797
i dont know if nekomikuri stopped doing this or not

>>56428548
>get a sprite back
but you are getting coca cola and sprite at the same time

>>56436491
More like some retard decided it's okay to mix them together and give it to me

>>56434473
Once the collabed ban was lifted she speedrun collabs with so many JPs trying to propose to them on their first collab. That includes Coco who she married in Minecraft

>>56436285
god I fucking hate nekomikuri so much

>>56436794
but they are not mixed. the waitress gave you a coca cola and a sprite for the price of one. 2x1

>>56437206
Fine, let's do it your way. I hate sprite and it leaves shit feeling in my throat, unironically without any allegory on homos

>>56437262
sounds to me like you are insecure and think the sprite is going to fuck your coke.

>>56436285
nekomikuri was the one making clips in the nijien channel right? does he hate hololive cause people don't watch those clips? if it is I just stoped watching that channel since it was purely NijiEN content (the channel is called Nijisanji EN but it had videos of the jp members that I did watch)

>>56394832
yes

>>56427394
Never trust a man with a padlock beard, worst beard in the planet, extra red flag if they are bald.

>>56432313
Towa's Yabe incident is the reason incidents are called yabs in the first place, to give you an idea of how influential it was for 4chan chuuba culture.

>>56437470
he also paints his nails black

>>56427503
>>56427709
kino

>>56436285
Tribalfag brain rot is a terminal disease.

>>56437935
>yabs
You know years ago I heard that and I never asked myself what it means.Does it really come from Yabe?

>>56395493
This is disingenuous. Ollie only streamed for 30 minutes because she's a fucking baby when it comes to horror games. The average is low because by the time people caught on to the fact she was live the gameplay was already over and she was reading superchats.

>>56427503
I'm missing context here. Why are they screaming?

>>56432834
She's actually pretty nervous when she collab with jp these day, without her friend as emotional support she barely talk in collab unless her partner initiate the convo first

>>56438257
baldman starts screeching over someone passing the controller, other person starts shouting because he's being shouted at, baldman starts getting louder, soda: SHUT THE FUCK UP

>>56434422
Are you assuming that was connor? because I'd expect hololive being a big thing in Japan cover was perfectly able to work those connections on their own and have no need for some cringe western eceleb.

>>56434586
She's pretty good on damage control, I give you that. After she sees the recline, I don't think she's ever made homos content on her channel anymore. It's all on the other side instead to insulate the situation.

>>56438094
The results for "yabe" start March 4th 2020. When exactly yabe became shortened to yab I can't say.
>>/jp/?task=search2&search_text=Yabe&search_ord=old&search_res=post&offset=24
The first results for "yab" on /jp/ related to chuubas are from september 2020. Towa gets pranked into blowing up "Sora mountain". Seems to have been accepted from there.
What a fun little dive into pre-/vt/ history.

Bonus:
>>/jp/thread/26208166#p26211077
>If we get a vtuber boards, can it be named /yab/?

>>56394223
I'm not really a huge Genshin Fan, but I joined a group because the arts that they share there is pretty good. And I remember this dude being hated because of how much of a liar he is. Lol.

>>56438522
Imo cover tried to get the ironic weeb crowd's attention, it kinda worked but not as expected

>>56436285
Didn't know nekomikuri was such a faggot. I'm subbed to his clip channel and he seems like a decent enough Holo clipper. I'll just drop him if I see any recent yabs.

>>56421490
Two nukes weren't enough

>disposable cumrag
If they fucked I'm pretty sure he'd remember her name

>>56439221
do you remember the name of every random slut you pick up at a bar?

>>56395493
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkT2FMLfvKo

>>56427394
>30's
lol no, he's 29. Yes, I heard him say that on that podcast he does with asmongold and I was like, how in the literal fuck are you simultaneously younger than me, and yet look older than me at the same time?

>>56439102
Probably a situation similar to the homo collabs. Trying out a new thing to generate hype and numbers, it doesn’t work as intended and they drop it. The condom fund incident and the resulting fallout was the nail in that coffin.

>>56439221
You're too naive.

>>56421983
>I have never seen Ollie bring up homos or push that shit with any girl who is purposely avoiding it.

100% this. Bullshit like this get spread by retards that don't even watch streams or are coping about random shit like this faggot arguing in bad faith and twisting shit to fit their narrative>>56421490.

Ollie has never forced the stars on any girl, including Mumei who willingly went into that holostars collab of her own free will. The worse shit she did was play wingman for bae being able to talk to roberto, and she didn't even force that on her either, just told her it was her fuckin chance and to take it.

>>56437262
>Food analogy
Your analogy if fucking shit. You have the choice of coke AND sprite OR you could take the one you want and ignore the one that you don't want. That is ollie's apex tournament. And honestly the only entertaining part was the stars/mixed portion.
"BUT COKE AND SPRITE IS MIXED IN THE MIXED PORTION!"
Then don't fucking take it you fucking retard. Take your coke and get the fuck out you goddamn sperg.

>>56436285
>4 chat messages from nekomikuri
it's just the discord troglodytes who tribalfag to feel better about themselves
you guys out of anyone would know right?

>>56397220
His wife did?!
The one he's married to in this interview? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXnVcJ0vGbI

>>56419666
If she's really happy, she wouldn't be so hell bent on "sharing her success" anonchama

Where is Ollie's savior general?

>>56396461
Pretty much this. They would have loved to leech off of Gura or Korone instead, but that's not how it works.

>>56407075
Nah, you can hate Mori for being a dick chaser, but she respects her coworkers unlike Ollie

>>56419087
and It will stay that way

>>56442868
>she respects her coworkers
Gura might disagree with that statement

>>56442868
Mori the same person Who send kiara death threat yesss such a Nice coworkers

>>56398459
same here anon

>>56400017
i just hope miss "respect my collab choices" wont make the same mistakes

>>56394223
She was warned about chasing twitch celebs

is there an acceptable e-celeb?

>unironically watch tectone
Jesas I would neckmyself

>>56428354
if you get approached by a controversial high profile person online, do you ignore them? or entertain a conversation to just be nice?

>>56445692
No

>>56445692
HololiveJP

>>56443197
Proof next thread?

>>56394223
Ollie is an irredeemable whore.
this is old news.

>>56445692
Y.Aoi, Sugita, Zun, Toby Fox, Kojimbo, Reuben ect... to name a few.

>>56440394
Homobeggars out

>>56445692
>is there an acceptable e-celeb?
Anyone who doesn't do streaming. People who make music, games, etc ACTUAL content creators who don't rely on leaching are the only ones you can go near.

>>56400949
source: it came to me in a dream

>>56445770
Ignore them obviously. Why would you entertain the advances of a clout chaser?

>>56421490
every day I get confimation that japan shoul’ve been nuked more than twice

>>56430623
yep. he SC'd Rio too before his 3D live. Guess he has a lot of NEETbucks to throw around

>>56447890
Seething homobeggar. No homostar shit in hololive.

>>56445692
Forsen. Mostly because he stays in his own corner.

>>56396872
Do people really use unity to defend collabs with random twitch fleshtubers these days? I was on board with it when it meant keeping global civil but that went out the window when there started being too many ENs to watch, resulting in a lack of shared culture and vtuber-specific generals becoming the norm.
What the fuck has the term been twisted into now?

>>56448067
"Unity" now just means being non aggressive and having no stance on anything

>>56448067
Some like Ollie believe that all vtubers should be one big happy family without being bounded by their corpo. Completely delusional of course and such naivette makes Ollie an easy mark for small time e-celebs looking for a way into Hololives walled garden.

>>56394223
Ollie was just their ticket to collabing with the more popular hololive girls, as soon as they realized it wouldn’t work, they dropped her, it’s sort of sad actually, this is why we like the girls to stay away from e-celebs, they’re very sleazy

>>56421490
IT'S THE SAME GUY
SOMEBODY STOP HIM PLEASE.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDGDIB7lz_E

>>56445692
I like most of the OneyPlays guys specifically because they don't care about clout. Or if they do, they do a very good job at hiding it and rarely collaborate outside their close group.

>>56405089
From what i’ve seen she’s actually pretty on par with kaela, at best doubling her CCV but often times right besides her (and sometimes even lower)

>>56448212
Well, there goes your hero. Turns out he was simply a piece of shit using homoantis as a fuel

>>56448294
He can be right about one thing and wrong about another thing.

>>56448400
Did he pay you to suck his dick anon? He seemed loaded after all

>>56448173
That is a nice philosophy. But unfortunately like most philosophies it falls apart as soon as you introduce human nature into the equation. Some people just aren't worth associating with.

>>56448838
Be honest you don't even know what human nature is. It's made up i.e. a convenient excuse to justify anything.

>>56448838
human bean post, armchair evolutionary socialist edition.

>>56448204
Reminds me of when a Hologirl had to tardwrangle her fandom who joked about "Hey, look at these new girls, I wanna change my oshi lol lmao." One of the comments in the clip is said something like "Hey, no one wants to feel like being tossed away after being used."

Now, look at Ollie (if the rrats about her turn out to be true, but I guess it's /vt/ consensus).

>>56448212
No, he's a hero that made a known misandrist cry (yes, she DESERVED it and to kill herself, too), so don't stop him. Tectone's just a clout chaser, so he's no better.

>>56449271
kys zhang

what did migo do anyway? also pretty bad of her to cry since she says she doesnt care about that stuff

>>56445770
Ignore them, duh. Otherwise you are just engaging in the clout chasing.

>>56447890
every day I get confirmation that this board is filled with redditors

>>56394223
can't be helped when she is dead.. a zombie.. who wants stinky rotten vtuber

>>56445692
E-celebs normally are used for popular streamers, so no, almost no one is acceptable

>>56449809
of course. you're one of them.

>>56448838
It's a good philosophy if you go from the presupposition that everyone is a good person, and that's far from the reality

>>56410128
"mean well" doesn't have any value if she's too copium to admit that she's deliberately and unfairly naive to people
it might even rub off as "covert contracting" where she's expecting everyone to side with her for being so "nice" to people
that is toxic, definitely. but seeing how determined she is to keep this trait, it probably came from a powerful circumstance she still has problems digesting

>>56427503
And that interruption going viral unironically made everyone knows about it making it more successful
Drama truly bring views

>>56396461
Was pretty disgusting how bad they wanted to get to Gura especially the OTV crowd trying to get to Gura so Sykkuno could have his e date.

>>56441973
He constantly treated her like trash and verbally abused her on stream. This is the only example I could still find because he copyright strikes them. https://youtu.be/PtVUDY4T-Mk

>>56449531
That sc nitpicking why migo don't invite all ID, EN and a few jp member to jp sportfes meanwhile she put shiraken member on her own team members, she actually crying because 35p showering her with support and spam sc to drown that fucktard sc

>>56399527
You know what? I'm glad she has a chance to be a retard at her age. Just let her learn for herself, and don't soften the blow

>>56443096
Sure she might envy her, but she's based enough to know that Gura is the messiah and she must change. She's doing very well so far

>>56406413
I'm glad Gura is such a shining beacon of light for holo's captain that other human reject shenanigans pale in comparison

>>56448067
Unity is a concept that has been completely bastardized so that it can be used as a shield to defend and justify indefensible and unjustifiable behavior.
It's simps that refuse to hold their oshi accountable for things and would rather waffle, backpedal, and make excuses. It's the same type of retards that appeal to authority on male collabs.
>b-b-but Fubuki collabed with males too
that type of shit

>>56419087
prove doko?

>>56420986

>>56445692
Fauna's oshi, NL.

>>56445692
Hans Seb Eli Fors....

>>56438803
yab was a meme made from Towa's minecraft chat screenshot. It's from the time Pekora (collaborating with Sora-senpai) framed her for blowing up Sora Mountain. "yab" is what she said in chat when she saw the notification that Sora logged into the server

>>56394223
Ollie is the type of girl that thinks she can't do wrong because she is nice to everyone

>>56401780
Yes, but it’s rare enough to be notable. It’s hard to be a good company for something like content where it’s easy to compete. Especially when you’re building a so-called “box” that makes new debuts naturally draw views from your own fanbase.

>>56402023
Because this benefit of corpos (and specifically Hololive) is harder to see if you’re not a fan already. To outsiders, this all just looks like anime idol larp shit and any points you bring up that aren’t already immediately obvious are just cope.

>>56396867
she loves her own personal idealization of what she wants hololive to be. she doesn't love Hololive as it is.

>>56431689
might just be me but i also feel like the males towa chooses to collab with seem to mind their own business and not try to change who towa is. they seem to respect what vtubing is even if they don't understand it or think it's cringe.
at least that's the impression i get from the regulars but i haven't kept up with every single person she's ever collabed with so maybe there's been exceptions.

>>56445692
Hikakin

>>56433609
god i hate that disgusting faggot so much. everytime he i see him pop up on twitch with so many viewers i get so fucking pissed. Disgusting leeching faggot cunt. And fuck that fake lying whore ironmouse too. Both of them should just fucking fuck off

>>56394832
of course, why do you think EN management has always been so restrictive on outside collabs?

>>56457560
Most holos that collabs with the homos are like that, they'll say things like "Everyone in hololive likes each other" but ignores the fact that more than half of the girls doesn't give a shit about the homos

>>56435630
don't they then turn about and complain about their fans and "idol culture". even a faggot like rpr did this when he moved on from leeching off holo and niji to vspo

>>56458710
Yeah, that fat fuck who reacts to hololive clips always cry about muh parasocial now that he mostly uses twitch vtubers to his reaction/leeching

>>56409112
imagine dumping your indog fans for some random foreigner dicks who will inevitably dumped you 1 year later. and then, kobo happens. indogs are beyond believe, i expect that kind of growth from mainline branch, not kobo.

>>56394223
i only watched ollie once when she participated in my wife's game show
she seemed like a decent gal, really respectful and polite
shame about her current status and all

>>56394223
Ollie really represents well the anime she likes(Naruto), she is a naive retard and she only stays relevant, compared with most vtubers, is because of her lineage(hololive)