/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>56373288
i'm fucking done with these threads. cover needs to fire them now, i don't want their existence to be acknowledged anymore. these useless fucks only damaged the company and the girls, if they come back i swear on the name of jesus that i'll anti them until they cut their dick by themselves.

>>56373288
I used to think they were hospitalized and Cover couldn't say anything due to it possibly doxxing them. But with Magni streaming almost full-time on his roommate's account and seemingly perfectly healthy. It's obviously not that.

There can be only 2 reasons now for this 'hiatus'. A labor dispute between Cover and Magni/Vesper. Where Magni and Vesper wanted to adjust the terms of their contract and Cover told them no and they're at an impasse right now. The timing of this gives a large amount of credence to this idea.

Or the two of them have actually been stealth suspended until such time that Cover has finished their internal investigation and what to do about them.

>>56373288
I will unironically start watching Vesper if he comes back, he grew on me through the shitposting here

I'm kinda curious but ever since these two stopped streaming they became a highlight here...

>>56373288
No that might be the reason for vesper's first suspension.
This is clearly different.

>>56373832
if its a stealth suspension then people would have to admit cover is a black company no?

>>56374151
I've seen cases exactly like this, I wish we could see what they said but I imagine a lot of people around Cover are getting interviewed right now.

>>56373288
Nah both of them are under investigation by Cover because of Tachibana Music's leaking and breaking nda.

Judging from Magni and Vesper attitudes, they probably leak stuff they not supposed to.

>>56373288
>one of them "jokingly" threatens a member or staff probably as a result of collabs and female mems
>one of them
>they both get suspended for some reason
Found a hole in your rrat, OP

>>56373832
My rrat is not super serious legal issues involving Vesper with Magni being caught in the crossfire.
I am talking about model art issues or stuff on this level.

>>56375220
They were probably telling jokes back and forth until one of them crossed the line. Most workplaces taking violence serious, especially with vesper owning a spear, both them being Americans that probably own guns too.

Personally I think new management came and told them they will no longer be allowed to be friends with the EN girls like they used to because Holo want to farm Unicorns wallets.
Magni & Ves probably didn't like to hear that, and threatened to quit. so Holo silenced them and put them in streaming jail to rethink their actions. Holo wanted to stop any drama from brewing considering how dark of an outlook fans have about various drama concerning Nijisanji. Magni & Ves were probably given a harsh ultimatum, either come back and never mention/interact with the girls, or get graduated.

Here you can hear hard evidence that management blocks streamers from doing certain things just to appease fans and prevent any drama from brewing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAZkBMCor7o

Holo management fears the ire of their crazy fans and loves their money simultaneously, so it's only logical they would do whatever the pay pigs want

If you don't like the fact of their disappearance, perhaps you should stop watching Holo EN alltogether because I guarantee you this behaviour will only continue happening.

>>56375467
>model art issues
Vesper and Magni can just use their old models if they have issues with their new ones. The cope that they fell off the face of the Earth because of copyright issues with their new models never made any sense.

>>56374367
A Niji style stealth suspension is when you order the talent to make up an excuse to mask the suspension.
Cover is staying silent, but if they state it was a suspension when "whatever is happening" is over, then it's not the same.

>>56374151
The only people who give a fuck are YABBA DABBA DOO tourists who never watched a single stream and were brought by that Desertorium cuck.

>>56375615
Vesper's model is a whole new one from a new artist so I could maybe believe there could be some issues there.
But Magni's just an update, no?
And if they were just model issues they'd be active on Twitter.

>>56373832
well magni's rm did mention he would start streaming again in the rm account when 2023 hit

>>56373288
Magni model always make me laugh, his torso is like a fujo character but then his face is la creature and his bottom is atrocious

>>56373288

>>56375722
Magni was an update from both his artist and rigger so the whole IP dispute bullshit makes negative sense in his case.

Everyone who makes a homothread should get their head caved in

>>56374367
Cover is being silent but then again they did also mention that their streaming activities would be “suspended” without further notice.
The whole situation is still weird though, mostly because it happened near Tempus’s 1 year anniversary.

>>56373288
I don't know what Vesper is doing.
But Magni's roommate said he's going to be streaming "a lot more". So I think Magni is dead.
I dunno about Vesper, I think he got in a car crash along with his roommate and they're both dead atm.

>>56378945
There has to be something Cover doesn't want to talk about, either because it could make the situation worse (ex. legal issues or personal drama they're hoping will boil over) or because there's something ongoing and they want to finish it first (ex. an investigation).
Magni is obviously fine. I don't know about Vesper, but he's probably fine too.
My rrat is that they were told to stop collabs with the girls and they self suspended in protest.
Cover would prefer to keep them on the roster so they're just waiting and hoping they back down, any statement could make the situation worse.
Magni has a successful RM to go back to and Vesper can either use the holo boost on his own RM or go back to his RL job, also he's fucking nuts.
Both of them have more leeway in quitting than the rest of the Stars.

>>56374367
No.
Nijisanji veiled vacations as suspensions.
Cover isn't trying to cover this up, they flat out said they're ceasing activity.
Also Holostars is managed by different people.

>>56377164
One of my favorite things is Magni's roommate's tweet about his coworkers are cool but the uniform is ugly af.

>>56378885
lol what's your issue? You don't have male friends?(This is not a play on Kronii's joke)

>>56379481
Any shred of respect I had for Magni is gone now.

>>56379297
I don't see Magni giving a shit about not being able to stream with females.
My ratt is a manager in Holostars doesn't like Vesper and has been treating him unfairly. At some point shit boiled over and he got suspended and Magni stuck up for them, then got suspended/terminated along with Vesper.

>>56379598
You don't like based people?

>>56375722
>Vesper's model is a whole new one from a new artist so I could maybe believe there could be some issues there.
Anon. Listen to me. If there was a problem with Vesper's new model he could just use his old one. It wouldn't prevent him from streaming or tweeting or releasing voice packs. Your level of cope is unhealthy.

>>56379598
He's not wrong though. Magni looks terrible.

>>56375566
Give me a timestamp nigger

>>56375467
could be the doxxer i forgot the name of who was involved with both holo and niji for producing music.

Two homos got sacrificed for EN3 and Gura coming back. The only reason I'm not suggesting that we should sacrifice the rest is because we might want that boost later on.

>>56383793
I just worry they will come back.

>>56375566
meds

>>56383793
>using the homos like hostages in Payday
The law of equivalent exchange should prove this impossible but perhaps human sacrifice holds an unnatural power we shouldn't explore.

>>56379297
>Magni has a successful RM
if by successful you mean 1k live viewers playing genshit fucking impact then by god this man is living like a king.

>>56385368
>1k live viewers
That's good. That's minus wage. 9 an hour. If he got sponsor that could be 16 an hour

>>56385764
you're not taking into account the fact twitch takes 50% cut off every donation and the fact he's limited to that shit platform because all he knows is twitch. the current holobuff is because he's gone and people miss him as magni once new toys get introduced he'll be forgotten, dude can pretend his "comedy" made him successful but no one knew who the fuck he was before holostars aside from interchangeable chink in the twitch chink clique

>>56386048
I thought he was part Korean

>>56386125
Asian american should be a race of it self, regardless of background all they know is sociopathy and stepping on each other's careers to make $5 off their previous friend's corpses. and sexual assault. See:lilypichu

>>56374367
>if its a stealth suspension then people would have to admit cover is a black company no?
Hololive talents have recently been getting almost the same number of "health breaks" as Nijisanji livers get "vacations". The recent Tempus suspensions are only unusual because this rarely happens with holostars. Whether the guys have more leeway in their contacts or because they have different management they almost never get these long radio silent breaks.

>>56386048
He has fairly decent views and sub count on his youtube channel (some anons claimed he often deletes vids with poor performance, but I can't neither proof or deny that)

>>56375615
>model art issues
>Vesper and Magni can just use their old models if they have issues with their new ones.
No, they probably couldn't:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4lB2okj-N0

>>56386495
Here comes the nijifag acting like any and all breaks Holomem get are exactly like the confirmed stealth suspensions their sla- I mean livers get.

>>56386495
Kill yourself Aloe harasser

I'm hoping there would be no bad blood between them and corporate when they return. Tempus already feels pretty barren without the two.

>>56387028
Gen 3 coming soon

>>56373832
>The timing of this gives a large amount of credence to this idea.
No it doesn't. They would have signed new contracts in May or even April as we know they are given at minimum 2 months of internal training before debut, and IRyS was around for 3 months before debut.

>>56387168
roru. rumao even. New StarsJP gen as well, right?

>>56373288
Magni throatfucked Vesper to death

I think it's a third party legal/contractual issue.
- they got suspended together, which is weird as shit
- we know from Magni's rm that it's not health-related
- they're officialy "under investigation". Cover killed their too-earner under a week under those circumstances, yet two EN Stars (literally who) are getting investigated for two months?
- nobody is allowed to talk about it. Not Cover, their genmates, or the interested. Not even drama-tubers can find anything that isn't a /vt/ schizo rrat
- they can't sell merch or voice packs, which probably mean they're not even contracted to Cover right now
It's a strange situation.

>>56378945
The statement never used the word suspended so why are you quoting it?

>>56379481
This is one of my favorite Mag moments
https://streamable.com/et5mw4

>>56387305
Yes.

>>56387444
>- they're officialy "under investigation"
timestamp?
source?
quote?
tweet?

>>56373288
all of these rrats only for magni to be throwing a tantrum at management kek

>>56387444
I wonder wtf is Vesper doing. Even his roommate isn't doing anything.
How is he going to make a living? Is he hustling on Doordash or what?

>>56378945
Cover never said "suspended" retard. If they did, no one would spam catalog with rrat

>>56387444
>- nobody is allowed to talk about it. Not Cover, their genmates, or the interested. Not even drama-tubers can find anything that isn't a /vt/ schizo rrat
Usually when there's airtight silence about anything it's some kind of legal issue where blabbing would put your party at a supreme disadvantage.
Since all parties, Cover and those two, have said nothing not even obliquely or in a roundabout way on their RM's channels, it pretty much points toward this being the case.
The nature of whatever the dispute is, who it's between or how much longer it could go on for is anyone's guess.

I thought that if the
>termination only after advent's been settled rrat
held any water it'd have happened during the last week. If this current week goes by and there's still no termination notice then I'd guess that they won't be, at least directly, and that whatever legal bs this is could just stretch out for months. They'd more likely just leave themselves rather than wait for a conclusion, which is of course possibly the outcome some here have suggested cover's been aiming for all along.

>>56387835
either he went innawoods or went to Ukraine as mercenary

>>56387966
Is he a Nazi?

>>56387444
Sucks these guys can't have a union to rep them or anything. I hate the homos but feel bad for someone losing a job over something dumb.

>>56387991
To what degree is he pidor, soi and absolutely retarded? Answer that and you'll have your answer.

>>56373288
I keep telling you guys, Vesper and Magni were taken to Cover's secret laboratories where they were subjected to thorough brainwashing and had their bodies remolded from the ground up. The duo has been there in plain sight for almost an entire month, acting like a pair of dog girls and BAU BAUing for hundreds of thousands of clueless fools.

>>56387915
>termination only after advent's been settled rrat
is retarded from day one, Rushia fired few days before Holofes, a FAR BIGGER TALENT FIRED few days before a FAR BIGGER EVENT. And somehow Cover hesitate to pull the same shit for smaller talents before a far smaller event?
>>56387991
maybe he just bored, or maybe he wants to vlog as Vesper there but Cover forbid him to do that

It's noon bros. It's time for vesper's stream.

>>56387991
All weebs should be allowed to fight Russia, Japan's historic enemy.

>>56388337
>few days before a FAR BIGGER EVENT
It was over three weeks before the 3rd fes. and it was a huge headache for them because of her own birthday merch and the people who bought tickets to watch her. If we entertain the theory that dumb and dumber are to be terminated then Cover might be sitting on their asses before announcing it because of the apparel merch that was announced after Vesper's 2.0 reveal, which was something that was in the making months before they even announced his redesign. Cover most likely don't want to throw a bomb on the laps of a partner brand who WILL have to deal with people asking for refunds if half of the faggots they made merch for were fired halfway through the sales period.

>>56388761
if they get terminated people will demand refunds anyway, in fact they'll be far more pissed if cover decided to delay the announcement to after the sales period than if they'd been straight up

>>56388567
If the japs minded their own business and didn't open up because they were gonna get bombed by the US everything would have been fine.

I don't give a shit if they ever come back or not. I just wanna know what it is. Have some fucking transparency, damn nips.

>>56388904
True but this isn't Cover merch. There's a partner brand involved and Cover most likely doesn't want to ruin their relationship because two retards decided to fuck up and get fired.

>>56374340
Yeah, it feels more like this is something more about a disagreement between the dudes and Cover, something that can't be settled easily.

>>56388567
They were cool with each other under Lenin

>>56388761
So after the merch ships then we get an announcement?

It's been nearly a month and a half.
I don't care about the reason. I don't care if they all have to awkwardly pretend nothing happen and never collab with anyone ever again. I just want them back.

>>56389236
If the termination rrat is correct, most likely.

>>56388983
Give back the Chishima islands.

>>56389076
and like i said, if they get terminated people are gonna demand refunds and that'll be a lot harder to do once the sales period has ended and will damage the relationship between cover and the partner brand far more

I really with Vesper's roommate would post something, anything right now

>>56375143
>Vesper attitudes
Vesper has been completely radio silent since the stop of activities

>>56389474
I hope he goes scorched earth on cover once it's all finalized

>>56389474
where are all the anons that kept talking about how he was lying when he said he hated twitter?

>>56389636
Except for anonymously seething in here, of course.

>>56389426
It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. They certainty wouldn't announce it days after the not-suspension started because they would want to be 100% sure that two of their top performing faggots did something bad enough to warrant a termination, but by the time they confirmed it was already in the middle of the sales period and would be extremely awkward for that store/brand to just suddenly have to give refunds to a bunch of people who bought their shit because the two got fired. There's literally no way to win in this scenario and they're forced to chose the least worst course of action.

>>56374050
he's nothing like the sex pest /vt/ make him out to be

>>56389743
i've said it twice now, people will demand refunds if they announce a termination after the end of the sales period and will be far more pissed off if they found out cover was sitting on their hands for weeks instead of announcing it immediatly

the least worst course of action is to rip the bandaid off and announce the termination as soon as it's decided and yes, that includes in the middle of the sales period because it's easier to offer refunds during that period than after

>>56388567
KURIL ISLANDS BELONG TO JAPAN

>>56389825
100% real

>>56389825
dyrb

>>56389292
Magni rm still streams. Just watch him

We need to buy an ad on Times Sqaure that says "Where is Noir Vesper? What did Cover Corp do with him?"
That would be be able to be ignored and they would have to give us information.

>>56390192
I would. However, I'm a dumbass that lacks critical information.

>>56389825
This rrat was disproven when magni's pl mentioned vesper's pl in a context that only makes sense if they were still keeping up with each other

>>56390232
I ignore shit that's happening on the ad billboard all the time. Hell I'm ignoring a couple hundreds right now.

>>56387835
>>56388761
I remember some poor sod posting that his engagement ring finally arrived after Rushia got shitcanned and it made me laugh

>>56389970
>ignores his genmates and makes up excuses to avoid them
>COLLAB WITH THE GIRLS? YABBA DABBA DOO
>not a sex pest
Sure thing, Vesper

>>56389076
>>56389076
Cover offered ticket refund back then, also they didnt sell the ticket themselves, a third party company manage the sales for them

>>56390330
Y'all got a link for that, or a quote at least?

First time i've heard of it

>>56390556
literally just go on the doxxsite and ask. should be able to find it easily without spending 5 years digging through pages

>>56390496
Big difference between ticket sellers who have to deal with refunds all the time and an apparel brand that suddenly have to deal with the fallout of 2 of the people they're making merch for being terminated.

>>56390330
What did he say?

Magni ate Vesper as they signed on for another year. Cover can't prove it and it's just too crazy to go public with so they're just waiting out the contract.

>>56390626
these merch deals are usually made to order - they have a sales period where they get the order numbers and then make/distribute them. in circumstances like that it's much, much better to have refunds during that period than when they're actually making/shipping stock.

>>56390630
>>56390596
I found a clip from Magni's roommate 3 days ago saying his friend "Randon" told him not to play Bard in BG3, look for the clip "Told ya about the Bard XD"

>56391428
dumbass

>>56388431
I wonder what crazy stories will granpa tell today!

>>56391428
This is he could have been told that months ago.

>>56391790
game was released on the 3rd
notice of their "suspension" or whatever was 10th last month
if you take vesper at his word that he'd never buy a day 1/ at launch game but would wait till all the bs is patched then you could wait say a week: if he bought it on the 10th, which is only last week, then it's possible that this interaction was recent

>>56392649
The game has been in early access for years though.

>>56392821
again, if you believe vesper he hadn't touched it

>>56392888
>believe Vesper
The pathological liar.

>>56390459
I mean, anon, one thing is to try and rizz up the girls and another is to actually succeed. Is there any actual credence to this?

>>56373288
Nearly every art legal contract dispute rrat falls apart when you take into account the fact that they don't share artists or riggers. These individual parties having such a large issue that the talents have to go completely silent all at the same time is way too much of a coincidence. I still feel like the most plausible rrats are

>Magni and Vesper being good bros decided to both play hardball and try to get something changed about their/all of EN stars contracts changed.
>Magni and Vesper breached contract in some way, potentially leaking information or some other type of infraction that now has an investigation going on.
>New management coming in and doing stuff they don't like so they are protesting

If I remember correctly Magni had that drawing thing before debut that somewhat confirmed him as being here right? I'm not sure if it was debunked but if it wasn't I wouldn't be surprised if the actual issue that is going on has been posted on this board in some of these very threads.

>>56390330
>This rrat was disproven when magni's pl mentioned vesper's pl in a context that only makes sense if they were still keeping up with each other
Honestly is curious that both of them get redesigns but they are still fighting with management. They both had problems with their Live2D model and could that be true for someone in Tempus vanguard?

>>56375645
They don’t order anything. Zaion simply stated that they asked her what they’d tell her audience. That doesn’t mean you’re forced to make up a fake scenario. For all we know they could just say they’re fucking off for a while without any reason

>>56393734
You can be a sex pest even if you don't touch them. Repeatedly hitting on someone if they're not into it is considered harassment in most work places.

>>56394931
>repeatedly hitting on someone if theyre not into it
im sorry but when has this happened oh all knowing one

>>56393341
hence the "if"
a stretch, I know

>>56379297
A dead prostitute was found at the Airbnb they were using during AX, and so the police are investigating them as potential suspects. They are not gonna be allowed back in unless the true murderer is found.

>>56373288
No. Vesper went on hiatus to take care of gura and his kid while she streams over her kouhais to make money. Magni is just an uncle.

>>56386125
Half and half.

>>56395279
their roommates being involved with a criminal case (as either suspects or witnesses) would unironically be a plausible reason why they'd be indefinitely suspended without cause

VESPER I KNOW YOU ARE /HERE/

>>56387281
I know nothing about Cover's contracts, but I think it's logical that they would factor the training period into the initial contract. Otherwise, they would be shorting themselves 2-3 months of content.

It could bea Tucker Carlson situation in which they are technically terminated, but they signed a two year deal and Cover doesn't want to pay them a compensation fee.

>>56387281
>>56396046
sana debuted on 23rd august 22 and graduated 31st july 23. it's reasonable to assume that hers and the rest of councils contracts were signed on 1st august and last for a year and that her graduation date was on the day it ran out

>>56373832
i gotta ask, what is Magni's other account, im curious

Come back to us Vesper

>>56394983
theyre simply stating an example for you retardanon. youre just too stupid to see it

>>56395520
would magni be allowed to stream on his pl account though if that were the case?

>>56399654
i don't know american law but i can't think of many situations where he wouldn't be allowed to do that, besides, his pl account isn't controlled by cover beyond the 'you can't say you're magni' clause

Vesper probably went on another one of his Forrest Gump cycling rides. They'll find his body eventually.

>>56375467
This is what I subscribe to as well. They haven't been officially suspended, are the only two that just got art asset updates, and seemed to be dedicating even harder to their futures in Holostars. The fact that Magni's RM streams and Vesper's doesn't is, by my guess, a loophole in standard corporate noncompete where they can't also be a vtuber elsewhere but aren't prohibited from streaming in general. Vesper's RM having been a vtuber, and Magni's being a fleshtuber.

Seems like someone caused some kind of IP rights conflict and now Cover has to tread extremely carefully until it's sorted out.

>>56383646
Tachibana.

>>56402500
The entire thread explains why the IP bullshit is a fucking cope and you retards keep pushing it. But sure, let's dissect this retarded "theory". Beginning with their riggers there's negative chance they remotely responsible for it since Magni's rigged FuwaMoco and Vesper's (both original and redesign) rigged Shiori and if they were taking action against Cover I doubt those three would be allowed to use their models. As for their artists Magni's mama worked on his touch up and even gave him a new neck warmer thingy so unless a month later Cover fucked them somehow it's stupidly unlikely they are related to this hypothetical IP dispute. With that the only loose end left is Vesper's original mama, but even if they were suing Cover for anything (likely the redesign) why would Magni be hit as well? And even with Cover being incompetent on multiple areas in the past you really think they would fuck up something like the rights of the characters when in almost 6 years of Hololive that never happened and they never had problems with any of the artists they worked with outside of that menhera hentai artist?

>>56393818
>New management coming in and doing stuff they don't like so they are protesting
Vesper and Magni threatening to take their ball and go home when they have zero leverage would be hilarious. A single Fuwamoco stream probably makes more money than those faggots did in a week.

>>56402500
>Seems like someone caused some kind of IP rights conflict
There is no IP rights conflict that could prevent them from streaming, copechama.

It's just a simple tale of two men getting greedy, happens when you're a big fish in a small pond. Vesper and Magni not only asked for raises on their contracts but also for ADVANCES on the salaries they receive from Cover. Cover would not oblige and asserted that this was the best contract they were going to get. Now it's most likely they signed it begrudgingly, because otherwise we would have just heard they got fired, but also informed Cover of their intentions to bring in their own lawyers to examine the contents of their contract which is stupid. Hearing that these two talents were going into legal action, Cover revoked access to all of their accounts while still upholding the salaries promised in the contract. Essentially, suspension with pay, though it's probably expected they'll resign or just go through this year's contract without renewal because bringing outside counsel is a big no-no.
My source? The girls taking the piss out of them/making an inside joke on stream that no one but a genius like me will get (timestamp is 35:49): https://www.youtube.com/live/GmMWKmxtm2A?feature=share&t=2149

>>56403829
I find your timecode very compelling.

>>56403829
Very fine rrat good sir, I now unironically believe this to be the canonical events as of late

>>56403366
>>56403766
>legally illiterate
Get well soon.

>>56375566
This rrat does sound believable, Vesper was adamant on not wanting to join Niji for some reason, and Magni never cared about homos, only the Holo gals. They're also the only ones who kept collabing with the girls. Maybe Gura returned because Jap assured her they wouldn't bug her for a collab

>>56404379
Then explain how BOTH of them are related to an IP dispute at the same time, lawyerchama.

>>56402500
Vesper's PL has streamed multiple times since Vesper's debut. It's possible he had to get permission, but Hololive generally doesn't care if you do stuff on your other accounts so long as you don't openly doxx yourself.

>>56405240
>Vesper's PL has streamed since Vesper's debut
Since when? How did I miss this? I used to watch him when he was just starting out.

>>56385368
I know of several US twitch streamers, that have way lower live viewers and it's their main job. I watched a guy for a while, who gets 120 viewers at most, doesn't do sponsorships and he's making a living.
1k is pretty good.

>>56386048
>fact twitch takes 50% cut off every donation
You pay for bits up front. If someone tips 100 bits then they spent 1.30 on it.

>>56405331
It wasn't on his own channel; it was as a guest on other channels, particularly girl_dm at least once

>>56379605
This is the most likely scenario. Vesper and Magni really bonded in holostars and Magni's rm has been hanging around vesper's former friends. If I had to guess it's still an ongoing management dispute with a ban on collabs with the girls being a possible symptom.

>>56410709
The most likely scenario is the one where my beloved homos did nothing wrong. lmao

Keep telling yourself that sisters.

You think it hurts their ego to see how little of an impact their absence has had? Nobody cares, the company is doing just fine without them and their few diehard fans just have to hold that shit until they decide what to do with these dudes. But in the end they could get fired and nothing would happen. Their two biggest shills, Mori and Kronii, are also just doing their thing and they arguably earn more money the further away they stay from these two dipshits. Mori specifically had a fucking song with Reol of all people. Kronii is currently shilling for FGO as I type this post. I hope that while they're gone they see how little they matter, or rather, how they don't matter at all. 100% deserved for not keeping things simple and wasting their one chance to be perceived as decent dudes people could cheer for, like the JP stars.

>>56423015
damn thats a whole lot of nothing you just typed out

>>56374367
Yes. Anything else is cope

>>56375615
God I hope so, I miss dorito chin and sid the sloth

>>56374367
>Suspension homo
Cover is white company

It's pretty easy to tell, Vesper probably joked with Magni that he could always take the next step with Kronii, and somehow word got back to new management and escalated to JP HQ.
On top of other rrants about how it isn't fair they don't get to collab with the new advent girls. They over reached and cried about their lack of privileges and got hammered on.

>>56373832
there's nothing stealth about it. they were directly suspended, by same verbage as Vesper's previous suspension, for an indeterminate amount of time, with no reason listed. While the reason is up for speculation, they are definitely suspended.

>>56423298
Not him, but I can agree there was a focus on Mori & Kronii after the suspension. Mori got especially busy prioritizing work with Hololive again instead of her side projects, and Kronii got pushed out of her comfort zone to do lewd shit.
I don't think it was only the threat of advent that got everyone starting to take things seriously again, it was New Management and them flexing muscle over Holostar's branch.

>>56429108
To add further to this, with old HoloEN management tossed and HoloStars under control, that's why Gura said they were growing stronger.

>>56373832
magni's flesh tuber is twerking his heart out and he doesn't seem upset or anything so it's probably nothing normal people would give a shit about

>>56403829
A good rrat? In /vt/?

>>56403829
I should have read thread, this man is a fucking devil, he knows his stuff.

>>56428914
no one cares about your schizophrenic diary entry. Take it to a shrink

Vesper told me what happened in a dream. He said that as a bit he and Magni called their old artists hacks, and the management, being japanese otaku who dickride literally any otaku creator as though they were gods, put them in "vtuber limbo" He also told me that he's working on his singing, but it hasn't imrpoved.

>>56404379
>legally illiterate
Yes, you certainly are. If they had legal issues with their new models they'd just use their old models and keeping streaming like nothing happened. Homosisters are so retarded it's unreal.

>>56404379
>legally illiterate
Yes, you certainly are. If they had legal issues with their new models they'd just use their old models and keep streaming like nothing happened. Homosisters are so retarded it's unreal.

>>56375615
it's been heavily implied that cover pay royalties to the artists, if they've ended the 1.0 version and moved to new artists, those contracts would be ended. they'd not pay double royalties, nor do some math about when a model was used etc etc to do some split payments thing.

>>56403829
Heavy extrapolation, but strangely feasible

>>56399611
>We're too stupid to see the nonexistent
Schizochama...

>>56403829
I believe

>>56403829
I hope this rrat is true just for the chance of Watson actually mocking those faggots after being one of their biggest shills.

>>56374367
Pretty obvious that’s exactly what’s happening now and you don’t see people admitting it

>>56430533
>it's been heavily implied that cover pay royalties to the artists
When? Where? Was this something revealed in a dream?

>>56432839
Because it's not a stealth suspension when Cover literally said their activities will be stopped.

>>56430280
Well, unless it's an Irys1.0 situation, where actually, no, they wouldn't be able to use their old models.

>>56387465
>>56387854
Jap anon already explained that in japanese they don't use word "suspension".

>>56375566
This makes sense, look at how Kronii's sales went down the toilet after the homo shitshow. She doesn't have the cuck fanbase like Mori to carry her either.

>>56434702
And yet when vesper was suspended the statement used the term.

>>56434833
Obviously written by different people

>>56434860
Nta but this is extreme cope.

>>56434860
No shit, written by the EN team. The same people that do use the word and have in the past yet choose to not do so here. So please, don't quote words that were never said.

>>56435048
How do you know that this time wasn't different?

You know this has gone on far too long when even the obsessed dramafags on /vt/ have fizzled talking about these homos. Cover really is just going to try to sweep this under the rug entirely, what an irresponsible way of handling whatever the fuck is going on.

>>56429006
>same verbage
anon, your english reps...

>>56429237
>Gura said they were growing stronger.
i don't think gura gives a shit about hololive

>>56435361
Nta, and I don't give a shit about Gura, but I know enough about her to be able to call this out as straight up false.

>>56373288
the fuck? why's this nigga got so many sleeves
they took a break to sew more sleeves into that retarded jacket i bet

>>56435361
Two weeks for the graduation announcement, right?

I wish they'd just expel them already so magni can be my twitch oshi and vesper can fuck off since he clearly died in the woods or something.

>>56436044
Me and Vesper were mud wresting in the woods (like hogs) and I think I embarrassed him so badly he had to take a streaming hiatus. Dunno about Magni though, I think he's just fruity.

>>56379361
>b-but Nijisanji
Black is still black. It's like putting two shit turds next to each other and discuss which one smells worse, when both are shit.

>>56393818
Pretty much the only three plausible rrats at this point.

>>56403829
This is the one!

The Prophet!

>>56406152
Then it’s over

>>56385368
>by god this man is living like a king.
1000 ccv with patreon and membership can afford you some semblance of comfortable living. 3 digit streamers can survive outside the horrenduous metropolis.

>>56403829
This is the best explanation I've heard so far. Good god, you're a smart bastard

Just watch Bettle

>>56439772
The whore (Froot)'s apparent bf?

>>56403829
Weirdly plausable.
The yt link as proof is laughable though. It's just a joke.

>>56403829
I belieb it

Here's what really happened.
Magni's roommate talked about smoking weed at Offkai. Cover being the Japanese company they are have a zero tolerance policy on drugs and want nothing to do with him but weed is legal in Magni's roommate's state so they're in a weird grey area legally and can't outright fire him for this. This is the first time Cover ran into a situation like this and has no idea how to handle it. And Vesper's roommate is the retarded friend that gave Magni's roommate the vape he found on the ground so Cover thinks he's a drug dealer, not just a user, and don't want him anywhere near their other talents.

>>56443316
> Vape he found on the ground
That's Mori's wasn't it?

>>56443316
But that was when Bettel and Magni were hanging out when they found the vape rrat chaama

>>56443572
A cure rrat, but mori doesn't smoke pr vape.

>>56443631
I was joking about certain clip https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nJxSCxvbEk0

>>56443800
Kek

>>56398527
Doctor Calrissian

>>56444224
You cheeky cunt.

They want a raise and better contract which allow them to ''off collab'' with all the holo girls.

>>56385368
My understanding is that anyone who can hold even a few hundred viewers for hours at a time makes enough money to be considered a full-time job. Magni's VA is doing fine, and is in like the top 10% of streamers among the sea of 0-1 view streamers on that platform.

>>56403829
You're not gonna get in trouble for hiring a qualified lawyer to review a contract lmfao, that's just good practice that everyone who can afford it should follow.

>>56403829
Having your own lawyer review a contract is common practice. I'm OP and as I said I deal with labor disputes often. Most employers have a lawyer and most collective bargaining unions have a lawyer each of them review the contract.

>>56443316
Kronii I thought admitted to smoking weed too?

>>56443316
If that were the case Mori would've gotten her ass suspended too

>>56447926
for drinking cough syrup?

>>56447860
Mori talked about dabbling in devil's lettuce in the distant past too. Chat freaked the fuck out, reasonably so, but nothing happened. Even the lean controversy had consequences for her because of her behavior/replies, not because of lean mention itself. My boy was not in a good mental state at the time, glad she's long over it now.

>>56448005
Lean is coughsyrup with codeine in it. It's really not around anymore because people abused it. 10 years ago it was awesome you could get it from a doctor so easily. It was very popular in the hip hop community at the time. With people "sippin on that sizzurp". One would take 2 Styrofoam cups stacked. Fill the open cup with ice then pour in said lean with sprite and jolly ranchers. Another common application was codeine blunts in which someone called a cigar filled with cannabis then dipped it into a jar of codeine let it dry then smoke it.

>>56403829
>this sounds right in my head
I can tell you work a wagie job and you have no idea how companies actually work.