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Can someone give me a rundown on why collabs with Tempus basically just stopped? Last year it wasn't just Mori and Kronii- Ame, Bae, a few of ID, even Ina did a song with one of them, all did things with Tempus. That completely stopped at a certain point, and iirc the last EN/Tempus collab was the usual gang of Mori/Kronii/Magni/Vesper doing a oneshot D&D campaign (one of the best collabs ever imo). The second Tempus wave has done nothing or next to nothing with HoloEN. Magni and Vesper "cease activities" and I believe around this time it was confirmed Omega/certain EN management had gotten canned.

What happened? Why the complete lack of transparency from Cover? Is there some kind of civil war behind the scenes about idol/unicorn bullshit? Why did this all have to become such a shitstorm? Even real japanese idols that have been attacked by insane wota go on talk shows and have interviews with dudes all the time. Where did all of this "can never speak to a man ever" come from?

>> No.56366459
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56366459

no
goodbye

>> No.56366487

>>56366459
fpbp

>> No.56366524

Why do you think Vesper and Magni are so pissed? Cover has -rightfully- decided to segregate Hololive and Tempus after seeing how poorly all these collabs do and just how poorly the guys have performed in general. At this point they don't want to risk the amazing growth of the new girls by having them Collab with the homos, much to Vesper's lament.

>> No.56366625

>>56366433
Because the collabs didn't work
The growth for the boys were negligible
To the girls it put them in the negative instead

>> No.56366642

>>56366524
I'm too lazy to check but I'm pretty sure the Worms tournament, Bae and Vesper's collab, and anything Mori and co. have done (Monopoly, Mario Party, etc.) did good numbers. I think they just caved to a vocal minority desu.

>> No.56366659

>>56366625
It's that simple.

>> No.56366691

They failed to create a new audience with Tempus and the core audience does not want them. Plain and simple. They decided to stop poking the hornet's nest and let hololive be as it should - hololive.

>> No.56366707

>>56366524
>>56366642
The collabs themselves get good numbers but those numbers don't carry over to solo streams. It's like there's a set of people out there that only watches these collabs.

>> No.56366715

>>56366433
>Can someone give me a rundown on why collabs with Tempus basically just stopped?
Because Tempus was killing Holo EN so Cover purged EN management for allowing such fuckery and put Dimitri "The Enforcer" Jap in charge to run a tight ship. His first order of business? Shutting down Tempus collabs.

>> No.56366763

>>56366642
View counts did not lead to increased growth for the homos. People who watched the Collab didn't bother to sub to Tempiss. This meant that the girl's fanbase wasn't interested in them. Cover saw this and came to the obvious conclusion that the people that watch the girls are not interested in the homos and it caused the girls to suffer mental damage from pissed fans for no gain.

>> No.56366807

>>56366433
>Even real japanese idols that have been attacked by insane wota go on talk shows and have interviews with dudes all the time.
You have some information that HoloEN is invited to talkshows and interviews all the time but refuse to go?

>> No.56367100

>>56366642
>I'm pretty sure the Worms tournament, Bae and Vesper's collab, and anything Mori and co. have done (Monopoly, Mario Party, etc.) did good numbers
>an intergender collab happens
>twitter and reddit tourists watch it for the sole purpose of owning da incelz
>but they don't spend money
>they don't watch solo content
>they don't watch same-gender collabs
>they go right back to twitter and reddit once the intergender collab ends
>meanwhile, actual paypigs and viewers get alienated by intergender collabs and leave
>nothing is gained
>money is lost
Kek. You want to talk about a vocal minority? Then talk about homobeggars.

>> No.56367198

>>56366433
Amelia said she will do the Worms collab with Tempus again

>> No.56367225

>>56367100
Truly like Hollywood SJWs
The point is, you have to know your core fanbase, make sure the new improvements do not alienate them
Mixed collab is not an improvement btw, it's just imitating Nijisanji, and if the audience found the collab amusing, they will just migrate to Nijisanji who does it better kek

>> No.56367244

>>56366763
>cover came to the obvious conclusion that the people that watch the girls are not interested in the homos and it caused the girls to suffer mental damage from pissed fans for no gain.
/thread

>> No.56367473

>>56366433
Only Tempus collabs with HoloEN were stopped.
Altare and Kobo interviewed Chamber's VA after Vesper and Magni were suspended, Axel does intergender collabs with outsiders so nobody cares.

>> No.56367483

>>56367198
No she didn't. She said that she would be happy to play worms again and hinted at it being a Myth worms collab because she's wanted to play it with them for a long time.

>> No.56367611

>>56366433
Because i hate seeing males especially that femboy altere

>> No.56367655

>>56366433
There's just no point to doing the collabs. They're not friends. The tempus fad has passed. Vesper and Magni aren't even there anymore so there can't be any good collabs with them even if somebody wanted it.

>> No.56367726

>>56366642
>le vocal minority
Watch and support your homos instead of only shilling them here or on Twitter, you stupid beggar

>> No.56369648

>>56366433
Kiara basically said it best, when once again she had a homobeggar in chat.
Collabing with tempus brings tourists but they don't stick around. Anyone that does collab had a huge drop in CcV from long time fans. The tourists don't subscribe to tempus either. The comments become a culture war section instead of talking about the actual stream.
It's all loss, no gain.

>> No.56369818

Fuck off and go watch Advent you tribalistic fag
Us UNITY chads will continue to watch Ame, Bae, Kronii and Mori while you suffer with boring gachikoi and idol shit

>> No.56369859

>>56366433
If you don't know the obvious then you're the biggest brainless idiot I've seen on this board.

>> No.56369885

>>56367473
>Axel does intergender collabs with outsiders
VCR is kino, god I love those events

>> No.56369890

>>56369818
WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER!!!

>> No.56369931

>>56366459
Fpbp

>> No.56369974
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>>56366433
You can literally see decline that started when Tempus debuted and didn't end until Advent debut and Tempus was sent to the Stars ghetto.

>> No.56369991

>>56366433
go back to red-dit/doxsite you homobegging faggot

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>>56366433
>Can someone give me a rundown on why collabs with Tempus basically just stopped?
New management. I hope omegatroon is dying in a ditch somewhere.

>> No.56370062

>>56369818
based

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>>56369974
Full chart for reference.

>> No.56370092

>>56369818
>including Ame among those other shits when she hasn't collabed with them in ages and the only time she did months ago was because Mori beggee her to fill in for Kronii

Yeah nah.

>> No.56370130

>>56366433
Tempiss collabs kill the girls' ccv bruh.

>> No.56370140

>>56369818
This. So much THIS

>> No.56370163

>>56369818
>unitycuck
You mean faggot that will never watch, sc or member them unless they collab with the homo, got it.

>> No.56370214

>>56366763
It didn't help anyone homocollabing girls were not gaining subs or CCV from this interactions at all and homos have a hard time leeching anything from clipwatching normies. Holo EN as a whole was stagnant/dying during 2022 compare this to now after (real) EN3 debuted with everyone gaining subs and views along with new girls.

>> No.56370217

>>56370068
Wow, homo and their fanbase are literal cancer to vtubing, no wonder vspoen and idol also told homobeggar to fuck off.

>> No.56370346

>>56366807
anyway professional interactions like that are a whole different thing since there is no flirting/shipping involved inb4 Tempus boys would never try such a thing they dindu nuffing and no interest in women - just look at fucking axel and how tempiss dudes in general jump on every opportunity to interact with the girls if they're only allowed to.

>> No.56370458

>>56367225
>and if the audience found the collab amusing, they will just migrate to Nijisanji who does it better kek

that's a good point, it's actually possible that they attracted quite a few niji sisters as casual viewers since sisters love event streams of all kind but they have no reason to stay for solo content, they don't seem to care about non-event niji EN streams either it's just a shitty audience and a waste of time/energy unless you have no other options.

>> No.56370495

>>56367483
Finally Kiara could join, what happened with that Ame news show anyway? She said nothing about magnivesper suspension in the last episode.

>> No.56370518

>>56370092
Ame shills Tempus every week on her news show you dumbass.

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>>56370518
every week, huh...

>> No.56370708

>>56370629
Another dropped project huh?
Listen teakek... Defending a lazy shit with THIS is not the "own" you think it is.
Besides she calls the Tempus guys "cute" on those episodes, the romantic duet with Altare is not a collab too right?

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why is there just one guy just talking to himself here

>> No.56370795

>>56370736
>no argument

>> No.56370815

>>56370708
I'm not the anon you're replying to. I just thought it'd be funny to bring up how Watson Weekly was abandoned after four episodes.

>> No.56370837

>>56370795
i didn't come here to argue ken-sama

>> No.56370854

IDs still collab, Bae still collabed relatively recently (3 months ago), Mori and Kronii only collabed with Vesper and Magni who are currently dead and probably won't come back
due to these circumstances, it's not entirely accurate to say the collabs have stopped, but let's entertain the thought that a change in course has actually happened

the early HoloEN/StarsEN collab galore was unusual for Hololive standards, it was an attempt to include StarsEN in the same group as HoloEN
this failed dramatically: HoloEN viewership cratered, StarsEN growth started well, and outpaced StarsJP by a lot, but eventually stalled while their viewership has been on a continuous decline since debut
some girls were not on board with this attempt (and why would they, they signed up for Hololive when it was girls only or at the very least when it was following the JP model gender segregation) so this attempt caused a lot of stress for them as they were continously pestered for Stars collabs
for the ones that did, there was instead the stress of dealing with the outraged gachikoi in their audience, which exist even on the EN side, even though they're not as rabid as the JP equivalent
they also lost a lot of their core audience: the girls that collabed with StarsEN have suffered on average a much steeper drop in average viewership than the ones that didn't

tl;dr the intergender collabs brought a ton of negatives and barely any postives, expect StarsEN to conform to the StarsJP model of mostly ignoring the girls and occasionally collab with the ones they have actual friendly relationships with. no more collabing for the sake of collabing

>> No.56370861

>>56370837
you just lost the argument

>> No.56370868

>>56370837
Then go back to your dead Amelia general, why are you even here?

>> No.56370880

>>56370868
not your hugbox

>> No.56370890

>>56366707
That's like 90% of collabs even for indies. Hell I only watch collabs on specific streamers cause they suck solo or avoid cause their collabs are ass.

>> No.56370959

>>56370890
And? What's your point?

>> No.56371025

>>56370880
Could say the same to you, whiteknighting a woman who will never fuck you.

>> No.56371055

>>56369974
>>56370068
Holy fucking shit, people literally fucked off for a solid year and are only now coming back, huh? Reminds me of the debut threads which had a lot of old OC makers rejoining and people checking back in for the first time in a while.

>>56370518
For all the good it does. Most of Tempus is solidly in 3view territory and aren't growing at all. I don't even mind her being all unity, but it's just the same as Fubuki or Matsuri collabing with the JPStars: just a small, very temporary buff and they go back to the same views they had before.

>> No.56371066

>>56370708
>Besides she calls the Tempus guys "cute"
Timestamp?

>> No.56371068

>>56370854
Honestly had they given them a month or 2 more or had casual collabs in MC or something pretty sure things probably would have gone smoother. I don't mind the girls collabing with stars but it did feel hamfisted once the embargo was lifted.

>> No.56371098

>>56371025
when did i ever defend anyone, i just pointed out the copious amount of samefagging itt. You on the other hand want me to leave so you could keep doing what you were up to now

>> No.56371319

>>56371068
Mori's whole campaign "WELCOME TO HOLOLIVE MY SONS" was so goddamn harmful, for all parties involved
i don't fault her for trying, i kow she had good intentions, but jesas
even an actual Stars fan like Bae was more delicate

>> No.56371736

>>56370629
>K-Kiara please drop your news show idea. I'm going to do one i-it's going to be regular this time I swear!

>> No.56371739

>>56370854
there's a greater coincidence of playing Persona 5 for more than 2 episodes losing you average CCV than male collabs
Mori, who's touted as an example all the time, completely cratered once she ran P3 and P5 in parallel, despite her male collabing dating to a month after debut (with first Stars collab only like 3 months later)

>> No.56371848

>>56371739
....whats wrong with Persona

>> No.56371958

>>56366433
They fucked it up and torched all the goodwill that's what. The holo audience WAS giving them a chance, even here. At least until the
>welcome to the holopro family
glut of collabs started.
If the collab ban was never lifted early, if they didn't go 0-60 with multipart mixed collabs out of the gate and instead the homos focused on their own audiences with the RARE occasional collab (boomerVSzoomer, Mori/Magni art comissions)
Then things would be different and maybe the homos would have retained some of their borrowed holo audience that was giving them a fair shake at the start.

They had the blueprint already but they threw it all away to force them onto the holo audiences plates damaging the girls, the homos and "unity" amongst the fanbase. Maybe it was EN managements plan from the start or maybe the initial success of tempus just made them go full retarded in the moment, we will probably never know.

>> No.56371969

We can enjoy this peace now, but you know Shiori is going to collaborate with a Star eventually.
The incoming meltdown will be….something.

>> No.56372063

Hate it or love it, at the end of the day unicorns run this shit. 1 unicorn is as valuable as 100 of you filthy homobeggers.
Unity my balls in your mouth.

>> No.56372476

>>56366433
Gura fought for a long time in the shadows against the tyranny of Omega, he finally managed to reach Japan where with a lot of effort he managed to summon Dimitri Jap, who banished Omega forever (Vesper also died but nobody cared).

>> No.56372626

>>56366433
go watch nijien, nijinigger

>> No.56372652

>>56371848
it's JRPGs in general, Kiara played like two and got turned into the chew toy of numberfags while she gotten completely acceptable numbers during shit like Portal or GTA series
I can't wait for Nerissa to actually start playing one of the Tales games to completion and her average to collaps, and watch catalogfags spinning cope narratives that it's due her being too close to Kiara or some other inane shit and not having a 40 5hr+ episode series for something people stopped following/caring for at episode 4, tops

>> No.56372722

>>56371969
>Shiori
>incoming meltdown
the girl is a walking landmine
I'm looking forward to the final yab

>> No.56372840

>>56371958
It must have been the management that got kicked that probably thought the 0-60 collab rate would be a good idea.

>> No.56373051

>>56372652
Yeah JRPG's have to be done in sparse marathons(like 8hr streams or something) unless they act as zatsu's or something of the sort.

>> No.56373317

>>56366433
>oneshot D&D campaign
It wasn't D&D, it was GUN. Stop calling TTRPGs "D&D", thousands of people would be happier if they knew that they should play something else instead.
t. fa/tg/uy

>> No.56373423

>>56369818
Hardly a challenge. I am enjoying it a lot.

>> No.56373717

>>56367473
ID is full of cocksucking whores nothing new

>> No.56373833

>>56370708
She hardly said anything about tempus in the last episode, actually forgot shinri's name kek

>> No.56373905

>>56369818
>UNITY chads
You mistyped holobeggar cocksleeves, atroturfer.

>> No.56374405

>>56366433
because they literally serve no purpose. kronii did like 3 collabs with vesper and it killed her whole career, now what would even be the purpose of continuing?
ina did her verse likely because she was just invited and the management was asking for a holopro song, so she got in to help the new branch. but you see what didn't work? it's the whole branch. the people didn't give a fuck about the males, so they just did normal numbers for the girls, leaving the only options to make constant more intersex collabs to help the males or just to stop that type of collabs because it didn't particularly help the girls either.
imagine being a girl in holoEN, and seeing that these collabs brought nothing but antis, would you be interested in doing one? i sure would not. the only constant collabs are between kobo and regis, showing that the main factor which would keep them happening are the friendships formed between the people involved. these same friendships just didn't last, and without communication between the two branches, it killed the last factor which would make these collabs possible. as simple as that.

>> No.56374466

>>56374405
>you be interested in doing one?
Yes.

>> No.56374750

>>56366433
When Tempus debut, Omega was still the head of HoloEN and desperately wanted to imitate NijiEN’s mixed collab culture. Cover gave him leeway due to Tempus initial success and because they attributed him to being the reason HoloEN was a success at the time.
Vesper got suspended, Omega got fired after Japan started getting involved in the EN branch, management got restructured and they hired a new head of EN (that Jap guy).
On a side note, the reason why Holotori became a Cover backed unit seems to be cause of him. So it seems like Jap’a vision of HoloEN is to be idol focused as well.

>> No.56374851

>>56374750
based jap san i kneel

>> No.56375046

>>56374750
like 80% is catalog creative fiction btw.
there's no actual verifiable info on who was the person behind Omega, no such sources on it even being anyone in particular and no sources regarding Jap's competences
it's equally likely EN management just got expanded and the branch started getting treated more seriously after members scored some pretty massive collabs, while Omega just got axed as a missed take on another management avatar like A-Chan because it played into the lore aspect too hard

>> No.56375230

>>56375046
Ame confirmed HoloEN only had 3 staff members during Myth’s era, Jenma/J-chad/EN director.
EN director refers to himself as the first HoloEN staff member and had the same writing style and lore autism as “Omega” in the grape interview he did.

>> No.56375417

>>56369818
>enters thread
>"leave us alone!
we will make fun of cucks and you are free not to join us

>> No.56378073

>>56369818
Kek

>> No.56378976

>>56374405
Yeah Kronii was the dumbest, her whole brand was being the super scarce and premium woman, like a royal member from being drawn by a top tier global artist, threw it all in the trash with those collabs now she is completely for the streets.

>> No.56379083

>>56369648
I really wish Kiara had said this publicly instead of member's stream because it deserves to be clipped and shared. Seems that she really wasn't a fan of "Based Vesper" raiding after all.

>> No.56379137

>>56366433
Collabs in general mostly dropped.

>> No.56379145

>>56378976
It was funny how she attacked her own fanbase so she could collab with Vesper only to end up not associating with him outside of Mori organized collabs. Her mods ban his name on sight in her chat as well.

>> No.56379191

>>56375046

There is plenty of evidence for the old holo management being super woke sjw, specially if you listen to Bae's talk about management, Kiara also said Omega was never a single person and was the personification of multiple managers (who aren't there anymore)

>> No.56379386

>>56366433
Talk shows and interviews are conducted by professionals, the tempus faggots are not professionals, they’re a bunch of fuck boys

>> No.56379673

>>56371739
This is massive cope, i know that deadbeats are running out of narratives but there’s no way you genuinely believe this right?

>> No.56384082

It's because all homobeggars are tourists who don't support the talents and only watch the collabs/clips. That includes people on /here/ that homobeg being 99% agitators who only shitpost.
>>56369974 and >>56370068 show that its been the downfall of EN and they are rectifying that.

>> No.56384162

>>56370629
La Creatividad everyone

>> No.56384357

>>56366433
Popular demand didn't do as well as expected.

>> No.56386547

Who cares?

>> No.56387100
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>>56367611
Altrannie*

>> No.56387497 [DELETED] 

>>56366433
TLDR

Tempus basically began a sex-pest vibe and the girls off handedly confirmed they were sexting whores because why the fuck not then washed their hands after the fans started to wise up and they started to see less numbers in merch and stream/vod views

Also they failed a psyop, more about that if you dig but this cuckold website will bot never admit to it and memory-hole the fuck out of early 2023 when all the girls decided to very quietly, get fucked on stream

Hell immediately what comes to mind is Kiara's corn-pizza stream where "pizza friend" and her had a quickie and she came back sorry as all fuck trying to play it cute

>> No.56387916

>>56366715
Jap my hero

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>>56370629
kiara dropped her news show project for this? kek no wonder she sounded so passive aggressive

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>>56387497
>comes to mind

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>>56379145
>Her mods ban his name on sight in her chat as well.
Kronies is this true?
That would be hilarious.

>> No.56389622

>>56366433
They were a new thing and they wanted to try streaming with them, because it was new, they tried it and it wasn't very good so now they dont

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>>56379145
>Her mods ban his name on sight in her chat as well.
but why is it okay to mention her other close friends such as mumei? arent kronii and vesper besties? whats wrong with mentioning his name?

>> No.56390332

>>56389749
Because you cannot call her master's name directly. You're supposed to address him as Mr. Noir.

>> No.56390398

>>56371319
>even an actual Stars fan like Bae was more delicate
That's probably why Bae handled it better desu. Mori, at best, means well but is generally ignorant.

>> No.56390508

>>56389749
Isn't it an auto ban word? or the mods personally ban anyone saying it?

>> No.56390549

>>56369818
>doesnt buy merch, memberships, donos ect.
Opinion disregarded and discarded by holocorp

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>>56371969
>this is what homobeggars actually believe
Kek, Tempiss collabs with the girls are DONE, you need to accept it and get on with your life. Cover saw which way the wind was blowing and rightfully course corrected away from the CCV killing money-pit that is homostars. Cope with your loss or keep waiting for something that will never EVER happen.

>> No.56390685

>>56390644
I hope you're right anon

>> No.56390765

>>56390644
As if that would stop Mori... She does it for ideology and to own the haterz, she will fight for it 100% even if the numbers are trash.

>> No.56390894

>>56390765
None of the girls have collabed with them since Omegay was tossed feet first into the woodchipper. It's Joever.

>> No.56390931

>>56366433
Chronii rejected Vesper, and he killed himself.
This lead to Magni retiring indefinably, and Cover to impose a ban on all male collabs.

>> No.56390958

>>56366524
>Why do you think Vesper and Magni are so pissed? Cover has -rightfully- decided to segregate Hololive and Tempus
Cover delayed EN3 to promote Tempus, rushed out Tempus redesigns in less than a year, and continue to sell holoPro group merch. The more likely answer is management temporarily stopped the collabs because they are hyping up Splash Party. After they are done selling the holosummer swimsuit merch they will start allowing group collabs again.

>> No.56391120

>>56369818
SLAAAAAAY QUEEEEN

>> No.56391126

>>56390765
mori is all but tamed now, we made that bitch bend the knee a long time ago.

>> No.56391426

>>56369974
>>56370068
The dark ages
>nijiEN below holo ID and almost at stars level
Grim

>> No.56391747

pretty sure they just collab spammed early on to put them on people's radars and see if they enjoyed them. basically corpo-mandated leeching. ultimately I'd assume both branches generally prefer sticking to themselves

>> No.56392794

>>56391747
Mori really wanted SQUAD (her name for the collab group) to become a real thing for some reason. If it wasn’t for that then mixed collabs would’ve been really rare.
If Magni leaves, expect Bae to be the only one willing to collab with them.

>> No.56393136

>>56366433
>Where did all of this "can never speak to a man ever" come from?
From incels that take snippets of what they hear about what happens in Japan without understanding any Japanese themselves and crank it up to 11 to fit their extremist views. You have to understand that Japan is a very moderate nation compared to the U.S. Freak attacks and assassinations make headlines because they happen so rarely there, where as mass shootings in the U.S. is just another Tuesday.

>> No.56393524

>>56391126
even if that's true im not watching her nor any collab she is in
she just did... too much dumb shit man

>> No.56393570

>girl collabs with tempus
>loses views and revenue fromfans
>also gets a shit ton of hate
>all vtubers are /here/
>can't handle the hate
>quit homo collabing

>> No.56395097

>>56367244
Always a shame to see entities kneel to terrorists.

>> No.56395765

>>56369974
>Damn you Omegay! you made NijiJP numbers tank as well
Fuck off with your false narrative

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56396435

>>56389200

>> No.56397224

>>56366433
They realized that nobody likes them or wants them to be around hololive.

>> No.56397813

>>56395765
No Nijisanji did that themselves. Being a yab factory and over acceleration which happened to coincide with The Omegay Trench. NijiENs collapse began with iluna funny enough and they never recovered from it.

>> No.56400113

>>56366433
was it dnd? I thought it was a cowboy ttrpg

>> No.56401954

>>56400113
Yea it was GUN not DnD

>> No.56402858

>>56366433
Mori and kronii were mostly interested in collabing with magni and vesper, and they aren't here.

>> No.56403139

>>56367473
Altare also did a collab with Ollie recently. Risu and Iofi regularly collab with Aruran and Oga.

>> No.56403773

>>56366433
Holy homobeggar

>> No.56403876

>>56366433
ID still does, but of course ID has never given a single flying fuck about unicorns

>> No.56404328

>>56366433
A combination of threats from Kronie unicorn Chads and Magni and Vesper being sex pests shut it down real good.

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>>56387497
>early 2023 when all the girls decided to very quietly, get fucked on stream
uh....

>> No.56404533

>>56366433
https://streamable.com/19hzwj
>I want them to succeed
>But for my personal growth and also my mental health I think I don't need that now
Pretty clear that management saw that Tempus collabs were damaging growth and the brand in general and sent out a directive. Merch sales dropping, viewers leaving, drama spiking in general. These are all quantitative truths that can't be denied.

>> No.56405107

>>56369818
i only like bae of these four

>> No.56406047

>>56396435
i would if she used her real voice. the chicken voice filters me so fucking hard

>> No.56406303

>>56366433
>Where did all of this "can never speak to a man ever" come from?
People who got their definition of 'Idol Culture' from Love Live.

>> No.56406509

>>56406303
You should tell Kanata her ideas about idols are wrong

>> No.56406609

>>56366433
>Can someone give me a rundown on why collabs with Tempus basically just stopped?
Popular demand. The NijiEN model wasn't as popular as management banked on while rolling out Tempus so they quietly banked it and went back to what made Hololive successful.

>> No.56406753

>>56379083
That's not it. She really didn't mind the raid, the problem was the homobeggar

>> No.56406803

>>56379145
>Her mods ban mention of him
Yeah okay, then the rrat about them quitting because they can't Collab with the women is true kek

>> No.56407030

>>56406509
>trying to talk sense into a menhera idiot
I'm sure there's a hilarious joke about talking to a wall that could be made here.

>> No.56408562

>>56396435
I tried many times, but that Nerissa collab reminded me all the reasons I don't like her and why I might not like Nerissa either.
I still respect the chicken.

>> No.56409527

>>56403876
>Iofi
GFE in ID doesn't really boost your subs/CCV past certain point.

>> No.56411086

>>56369818
BASED

>> No.56411166

>>56370068
the girls didn't stream that much during december

>> No.56411225

>>56366433
>Can someone give me a rundown on why collabs with Tempus basically just stopped?
Unicorns and Gachikoi are the primary paypig demographic. Tempus drives them away. Pretty simple.

>> No.56411289

>>56366433
Mori got busy with her concerts.

>> No.56411469

I think Omega was obsessed with turning HoloEN into NijiEN, and once he was booted things went back to normal. That's a good thing, because NijiEN is fucking collapsing from their retarded decisions right now.

>> No.56411664

>>56366433
The entire point of male collabs was cover trying emulate the success of nijiEN’s male vtubers. But nijiEN is currently crashing and burning so they decided to stop it

>> No.56411693

>>56366433
INA DID WHAT ???? Dropped.

>> No.56411766

>>56387497
???

>> No.56411861

>>56390765
Mori is in it for the numbers now. She wants the money, owning the haters comes second to that.

>> No.56411976

>>56395765
Niji is up to like 30 members now and I couldn’t name half of them. I bet if you asked Vox to name every member he couldn’t.

>> No.56413265

>>56411976
31
17 males, 14 females
They have LESS females than holoEN. And once you dig into it the numbers are even less
>2 unwatchable JP girls for some reason hired into EN
>shitters like Aia, Reimu, Finana
not to mention the males are in every single collab so like 1/3 of your oshi's streams are unwatchable

>> No.56413289

Is the Stars hate generalized or it's just only EN? I like Roberu. captcha jjavt

>> No.56413468
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>>56366433
Nobody cares about male vtubers. Having things we don't care about shoved in our faces is annoying. People who have little tolerance for such things left, leading to lower numbers for all talents involved. Cover noticed this, did the right thing and got rid of the problem and got in some new blood. Now things are good again and all is right with the world, those who left are returning and fun times are ahead. As long as Cover doesn't fuck it up.

>> No.56419216

>>56366459
fpbp

>> No.56419753

>>56371319
It didn't help she only immediately welcomed the two most popular members at the time, really a bad look for Tempus fans.

>> No.56421662

>>56384082
>>56369991
>>56372626
>>56378976
>>56379386
>>56390931
>>56393570
>>56397224
>>56403773
>>56404533
>>56411225
>>56411469
>>56411664
>>56413468
this
>>56411861
hopefully this
>>56371969
Sh*ori is already a persona non grata
>>56372063
Cover is a company, and the girls get more $ by playing to unicorns. No doubt they all recognize where the majority of their income comes from.
>>56374750
I kneel
>>56375046
cope

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>>56366459
fippy bippy

>> No.56423358

>>56366433
>meanwhile Foob and Choco just had a TTRPG collab with Homos a few days ago
You need them having actual great relationships to do collab with, consider EN chuubas barely have many chances to meet each other face to face it's not to hard to see why their collabs don't work.

>> No.56427186

>>56413289
I hate that sex pest too

>> No.56429201

>>56390765
Yeah. Mori might as well be a Hollywood actor telling you what you have to be entertained by or you're a sexist nazi. I watch Japanese media to escape from that and the bitch had to drag it in.

>> No.56431966

I hope /vt/ shuts the fuck up with the 'Tempiss cumrag' shit soon, it's been way too long since the peak of male collab drama....

>> No.56432400

>>56374405
I dont follow ENs, what happened to her career specifically in terms of "killing" it? Is there a before and after graph of various metrics that I could look at maybe where they fall off a cliff? Or did the metrics stay constant and it's more of a shitposting thing?

>> No.56432894

>>56431966
Anon this is forever. This is the future they chose.

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>>56431966
A full year of anti unicorn policies and you complain that unicorns are still complaining about the previous regime 1 month after it ended? Not even mention what that faggot did to Gura, the allocation of funds meant for the girls's development to fund his vtwitter chunii shit and how he greenlit Irys 1.0, this faggot almost killed holoEN with his nijification bullshit. No dude, expect me at least for what is left of 2023 to shit, piss, snort, spit and cum on omega's corpse, then harlem shake on his tomb and then spray paint "HE" and "WAS/WERE" on his grave stone.
Rip in hell bozzo, nobody will miss you.

>> No.56433291

>>56433134
B-based

>> No.56433316

>>56423358
I dare you to post the TTRPG numbers

>> No.56434353

>>56370068
Wow starsEN in freefall

>> No.56434425

>>56434353
yeah, is like they banned their best 2 male vtuber

>> No.56434518

>>56370068
POPULAR DEMAND LET'S GO
I love omega so much it unreal
He showing that homo will not only kill theirself but they will also drag the girls down

>> No.56435303

>>56433134
Absolutely based

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