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56293230 No.56293230 [Reply] [Original]

Is GFE unethical?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD_36kW5438

>> No.56293351

BVTM Twitter suspension deflection thread.

>> No.56293804

>in the middle of giving chat blowjob ASMR
>mom walks in
LMAO

>> No.56294254

>>56293804
>you winning, hun?

>> No.56294408

what's unethical is me committing domestic violence against my meat

>> No.56294517

>>56293230
>fans get what they want
>chubba gets paid
>both parties are happy
>OP seethees at the free market
Why is it unethical?

>> No.56294589

>>56293230
mio kyut
luv me some menhera femcels hek ye

>> No.56295481

Did anyone record the vod?

>> No.56295532
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56295532

Delection thread
Nigger got banned on twitter
Also already ban evading
https://twitter.com/bannedvttakes
Do your part
Everyone > Deceptive identity/Spam > Using fake identity to mislead people > elaborate about ban evasion (It's both against twitter tos to impersonate a banned account and to ban evade so either way they''re fucked)

>> No.56295625

>>56295532
>Delection

>> No.56295648

>>56295532
based

>> No.56295701
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>>56295625
oh nyo not the typo
Keep ban evading on twitter nigger

>> No.56295712

>>56293230
>private
:(

>> No.56295813

>>56295532
Phasejanny's not gonna like this...

>> No.56295875

>>56295712
fingers crossed someone archived it because i missed the good part

>> No.56296493

>>56293230
stop using my girlfriend to shitpost tyvm

>> No.56296933

>>56295875
Same I closed out instantly when I saw she was responding to coomer yesmen in chat

>> No.56297048

>>56293230
Please tell me somebody saved this.

>> No.56297184

>>56295532
KEK

>> No.56298043

>>56295532
Based
Janny will hate this post though

>> No.56298975

I love my girlfriend Miori

>> No.56299046

>>56298975
I want to titfuck your girlfriend and empty my balls on her face.

>> No.56299068

What happened all I know is she was drinking again did she yab?

>> No.56299171

>>56299046
i made this post

>> No.56299343

>>56295532
KEK fuckin finally. though that faggot will just make another account, still funny though

>> No.56299784

This is why non Hololive vtubing sucks
1) Women left on their own in this business default to whore mode eventually, no exceptions, they need structural corporate rules to dictate a minimun level of standards that elevates them from clout chasing e-girls with an anime filter to actual idol anime girls
2)No fucking one ever archive unarchived streams so their content is lost forever (not like it even matter, trash content is trash)

>> No.56300017

>>56299784
3) incel post

>> No.56300098

>>56299784
This dude hasnt listened to Okayus members ASMR

>> No.56300380

>>56300098
>implyning thats a whoreish behaviour
seething 2viewfag

>> No.56300796

>>56293230
>Is GFE unethical?
Its ethical

>> No.56302306

>>56299784
why are holotrannies like this? their summer event was a bunch of sluts being sluts.

>> No.56302390

>>56295532
Holy based

>> No.56304376

>>56293351
Arent they all now?

>> No.56304495

>>56299784
You just revealed yourself as a complete newfag, someone that barely watches JP, and a gray shitter that never watched members content.
Old Hololive was coombaiting a lot. Girls channels regularly got bonked for it (Choco and Aki most of the time from my memory).

>> No.56304569

>>56293230
Why do people act like vtubers are the only ones who do "GFE". It's a common transaction irl.

>> No.56304830

>>56304495
HoloJP never stopped coombaiting hard

>> No.56305033
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>>56299784

>> No.56305064

>>56293230
where the vod at.

>> No.56305225

>>56299784
The holy virgins of Hololive
The same holy virgins that post their sex toys on their personal accounts and use them for non hololive streams (HoloJP members btw)

>> No.56305664

>>56305225
You get banned for the picture showing matsuris sex equipment and how often she uses them
janitor hate

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>>56299784

>> No.56306169

>>56305033
*sssssssniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiffffffffffffffffff*

>> No.56310246

>>56293804
hot

>> No.56310320
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>>56293230
>Miori
>GFE
lmao Mio doesn't do GFE, silly anon
She said you should drop the E

>> No.56310439

Love me some Mio.
And she loves me.
Simple as
Sounds like a mad Enna/Millie fan to me

>> No.56310655

>>56295532
bump

>> No.56313477

>"gfe"
>has covered the ntr shit song
So who else is hyped for our girlfriend to get railed on stream?

>> No.56314549

Holy shit indie sluts really are desperate
Thank god she didn‘t get into EN3 despite leeching from Bae whenever possible

>> No.56314617

>>56313477
J-just a joke

>> No.56315182

>>56314549
>leeching Bae
So true sister, lets ignore the fact that is Bae doing the reach outs 99% of the time

>> No.56315323

Did someone archive it?

>> No.56315932

>>56315182
Yeah because Bae is a good person and noticed her friend turning increasingly slutty to pander to coomers

>> No.56315990

>>56315932
retard

>> No.56316010

>>56295532
based

>> No.56316103
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>>56315932

>> No.56316150

>>56295532
You can't engage in "ban evasion" with an account that existed before the ban. Retard.

>> No.56316267

>>56295532
>Nigger got banned on twitter
are the phasetrannies blaming the jews for this one?

>> No.56316429

>>56293230
Yes but capitalism at it's core is unethical and business is business

>> No.56316557

>>56305225
>doesn’t realize these people don’t watch hololive

>> No.56316638

Why do sisters seethe so much about streams like this?

>> No.56316914

>>56316638
what even was the stream? some member asmr?

>> No.56317037

>>56316914
guerilla drunk ASMR

>> No.56317117

>>56316429
Kys tankie

>> No.56317341
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>>56293230
where's the archive?

>> No.56317435

>>56316638
the only thing women hate more than themselves is other women, especially when they do things men like

>> No.56317723

>>56316914
no that's what people are upset about. she only does lewd asmrs on members stream, but got drunk and did one publicly last night

>> No.56317804

>>56316638
>they should be donated to ME

>> No.56318239

>>56293230
Yes

>> No.56318651

Archive is up, witness the best GFE in the west
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzG1bnxLsfM

>> No.56319361

do korean girls really

>> No.56319587

>>56318651
this one is 7 minutes shorter than the archive someone posted earlier

>> No.56319788

>>56319587
Probably just from cutting out the starting soon/now ending screens.

>> No.56320469

>>56293230
I've said it a million times before, but I'll say it again:
GFE is only unethical if the chuuba doesn't hold up her end of the social contract, which is to be single and a virgin, and stay that way, and not break the parasocial immersion, until she graduates, or at least stops doing GFE content.
Or if, like in Miori's case, she constantly makes light of NTR by shitposting about it. Even if she isn't actually cucking her fans IRL and never will, it's still permanently damaging to the viewer's relationship with her to hear such deeply upsetting words and phrases come out of her mouth, even in a joking manner.

>> No.56320644

>>56320469
> it's still permanently damaging to the viewer's relationship with her to hear such deeply upsetting words and phrases come out of her mouth, even in a joking manner.
Literally a (You) problem

>> No.56320688

>>56313477
B-but you don't understand Miori! Watch streams! You have to watch 200+ hours of getting cucked by Miori, and then you will understand that it's totally ironic!

>> No.56320809

>>56320644
Sounds like a (You) problem that you lack the appropriate disturbed reaction to any reference to cuckolding. Maybe lay off the soi lattes.

>> No.56320856

>>56320809
Sounds like i don't suffer from some severe form of autism

>> No.56320939

>>56320856
If righteous hatred of cuckoldry is autism, I don't want to be normal.

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Whats funnier is she wanted to cover another cursed song "Coconuts" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcgEXwjAImo
But because of a meme challenge, Bae literally telling her "do it or no balls" and beerpals "it's just a joke" she delivered it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8b2Aqunt5s
And the cover is great

>> No.56321338

>>56321198
Did Bae also tell her to play cuckold simulator twice?

>> No.56321441

>>56321338
Nope, the kr stream happened because the shitposter dev gifted her a copy of the kr version
But dude, you really must be a fun guy at parties

>> No.56321641

>>56321441
If not allowing my GF, virtual or otherwise, to engage with content that involves some guy's wife getting blacked while he watches, cracking jokes and making light of it the whole time is "boring", then I don't want to be "fun".
Enjoy your tainted whore I guess.

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>>56321338
You know Bae would 100% play it ever show up on the "greenlight games" spreadsheet

>> No.56321763

GFE has always been a term used for hookers/escorts, and it's just as applicable for streamers as hostesses and rental GFs. It's always implied that you are just getting a service/"experience", and that there's other clients.
Sure, you can argue it's breaking the illusion and done in bad taste and thus ruins your pure angelic image of your waifu, but that's your choice to move on and find someone who never breaks kayfabe instead (Bau Bau?). Everyone else who stays can actually take a joke without being triggered. If you actually see a GFE vtuber as your GF (or any type of GFE service provider), unironically get psych help and move on from this industry before you ruin your mental health.
Consider just how bad the rest of the GFE sphere is filled with scammers and grifters who actively disdain their audience but solely do it for the paypig donations, and you'll see Mio frequently quoted as one of VERY few good/genuine GFE.

>> No.56321802

>>56318651
fucks sake, got copyright takedown whilst I was updating yt-dlp

>> No.56321814

>>56321710
I'm not defending Bae. Just saying Miori has agency and you can't blame her degeneracy on being peer-pressured by Bae.

>> No.56321835

>>56321641
found the guy on hanime comments complaining about ntr again

>> No.56321867

>>56321835
>hanime comments
?

>> No.56321918

>>56321641
I'm sure you have plenty of girlfriends.

>> No.56321971

>>56321918
says the other guy on /vt/

>> No.56322075

miori is a fake whore

>> No.56322130
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It is okay when Shiori does it.

>> No.56322211

>>56321763
Mio does massive amount of dono baiting too

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>>56322211
>literally the first thing in her description
very trashy imho

>> No.56322443

>>56322284
>>56322211
Is she suposed to stream for free and donates everything to charity now? Do you understand that she is an indie doing vtubing and related behind scene activities full time?

>> No.56322509

>>56322443
i didn't say she can't monetize her channel. I'm just saying it's trashy how she begs for donos and has super expensive membership streams

>> No.56322598

>>56322509
Gifted memberships getting cucked out of members only content is based

>> No.56322688

>>56322509
The membership tiers are meant to keep random people who get memebership gifts from ruining the comfy vibes of her membership streams, retard

>> No.56322700

>>56322509
yes, Mio membership is more expensive than the average vtuber membership but the benefits and the rewards are also massively above the average

>> No.56322721

Mio is a med school dropout turned whore.

>> No.56322745

>>56322211
>>56322075
Note the preface that she IS just another rental GF, that is part of the deal. She provides a service, donators/simps provide payment to subsidize all the greynames. Never doubted that she does dono baiting (as anyone in the GFE industry does), but at least she's a genuine menhera who actually likes her audience (or at least is REALLY good at acting like it, especially during drunk streams and ASMR).
Given all her personal struggles with dropping out of school (again), parents giving her a rough personal life, etc, you can feel like she deserves something for her efforts. When it came to her merch, she handled everything solo and massively underpriced items (compare to the massive incompetence of Holo/Niji merch, which has a full-on corpo behind it), basically making no profit and even going through multiple reprints and selling misprints at or below cost for fans. The multiple menhera stress attacks that fiasco caused was only more proof of how dedicated she is to her work, which contrasts how lazy and uninspired most corpos are these days.
Compare this to the rock bottom standard for big corpo "GFE", where you even have the likes of Mori and Kronii pandering to the coomer audience and getting tons of paypigs who have no standards. Sure, she donobaits (given she's trying to make a living off low 3views considering most of her subs are dead and mostly through music/shorts), and sets member streams to a higher tier than donation (which is still understandable). However, even if Mio's not perfect, at least she's a refreshing case of a Korean menhera actually being good.

>> No.56322757

>>56322721
the only thing you got right in your post was her name

>> No.56322788

>>56322721
Hot

>> No.56322817

>>56322757
Lurk more

>> No.56323005

>>56322745
I believe you about everything you said. Which is why it's so disappointing that she chose to taint herself by associating herself with all the NTR shit. What could have been.

>> No.56323087

>>56322788
Agreed....every desperate GFE provider should be a complete failure to her Asian tiger parents and pitybait for clients. That just makes the experience even better.
That said, just imagine how desperate those parents are to try to marry off their failures before they turn into hags. Any successful NYC lawyers/finance bros want to take in a chubby unemployed drunkard menhera? Even if Yagoo can't save her, maybe you can?

>> No.56323348

>>56322721
unironic suicide watch for her

>> No.56323514

>>56323005
Genuinely curious about what causes so much drama around NTR. Not exactly a fan, but at the same time I don't understand why people are so triggered by the idea, especially when it comes from a service-based industry.
Like I said earlier, even if you have a favorite escort/rental GF, it's an implicit part of the deal that she has other clients. If you aren't willing to "save" her and shell out the big bucks as an oil baron paypig, you should be thankful others are willing to carry most of the cost burden and subsidize your top tier service for a fraction of the cost (or in greyname lurker cases, for absolutely free).
Maybe it's the cultural degradation of the west, but perhaps it's much easier to just be jaded and accept all relationships (and ESPECIALLY from actual escorts or GFE ASMR providers) as nothing but transactional. Ultimately it comes down to the idea that "she's not yours, it's just your turn": you don't own her, she's not your exclusive GF, you're just paying for her time to put on a performance as entertainment. I can understand if it detracts from the kayfabe of the experience, similar to if she did male collabs or revealed she has a BF IRL, but ultimately you don't have an actual connection beyond enjoying a paid-for lovebomb happy-ending session.

>>56323348
And that's the exact type of parasocial menhera experience we are looking for? We've been waiting for ages for the advent of EN Rushia, and Mio's as close as it gets.....WHY DIDN'T SHE GET THE SHIORI MODEL? IT WOULD HAVE BEEN PERFECT

>> No.56323895

>>56323514
>what causes so much drama around NTR
are you trolling? NTR is the ultimate humiliation for a man, the biggest L possible on a relationship and cause for over 50% of suicides.

>> No.56324135

>>56323895
>and cause for over 50% of suicides.
I don't think that last part is true...

>> No.56324174

>>56323514
>Genuinely curious about what causes so much drama around NTR.
It makes failed normalfags relive their traumas. That's basically it. Celbros just laugh at them.

>> No.56324227

>>56293230
Yes. It captures vulnerable men and exploits them. See rushia or marine. you can be a successful female vtuber without having to do gfe or some lovey dovey bullshit with your viewers

>> No.56324250

>>56323087
I miss the old "I LOVE MIO AND WANT TO MARRY HER" threads. So much entertainment value from IRL posters who cry about never being good enough for her.
Then again, imagine you are an elite educated, tall, Asian/White guy in your late 20's making big bucks (let's say 250k+ a year) in a major city (which is essentially her parent's standards based on precedent). Would you really want to date or marry someone like Mio? She's great for the occasional GFE rental session, but is she worth the exorbitant cost for full time ownership? Adopting a menhera is a very tempting fantasy, but very unlikely to work out in IRL, especially if she's genuinely crazy and not as attractive as you can get.

>>56323895
I'd say the main point is to have an abundance mentality, which also eliminates fear of NTR. If she leaves you, good for her. You can move on to someone better since you have options. She's not special and never had an exclusive relationship with you. She's just another escort/FWB/hookup tbat you see every so often, and it's mutually agreed that you don't want to lock her down since she's not worth it. Even if she is the best of your current lineup, you would never want to give up all the other options (opportunity cost) to be tied down with exclusivity while you can play the field.
The core problem with NTR antis is that they idolize women far too much and put them on a pedestal as these perfect ideal angels (or believe in the myth of the soulmate). Here's the thing: if she NTRs you, she was NEVER right for you anyways. Sure, it might hurt in the moment, but technically she's doing you a favor by revealing who she is inside (gold digging, monkey branching, clout obsessed etc). True acceptance is embracing the fact that some guy is obsessing over your used goods, while you can do better than a traitorous whore.

>> No.56324269

>>56323514
>Genuinely curious about what causes so much drama around NTR
It's not really that hard to understand.
Forget VTubers and imagine we're talking about a real GF.
Depending on your level of sensitivity, you may not dump her on the spot, but it would at least raise an eyebrow if your GF was shlicking it to NTR hentai, started humming the NTR song around the house, played Cuckold Simulator beginning to end, and started cracking jokes about BBC.
Now of course GFE VTubers aren't the same as a real GF, but it is designed to emulate it as closely as possible.
And it differs from GFE in rental GFs or prostitutes in that the client's interaction with the performer is limited and purely virtual to the point that it's impossible for client's to "cuck" each other. Ever heard the phrase "if I can't have her, no one can"? Well in the case of GFETubers, the clients are actually being promised the latter and are satisfied with it.
So there is more of a reasonable expectation of exclusivity with GFETubers than rental GFs or prostitutes. Meaning, in that one way, it actually more closely emulates a real GF. So it makes sense for the same things that would upset you if done by a real GF, to also upset you if done by a GFETuber.

>> No.56324561

Concentration camps desuu~

>> No.56324910
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Someone reupload the archive on not youtube

>> No.56325272

>56321763
>regurgitating every tired talking point to depend an ntrtuber of all things
Lol

>> No.56325344

If you want to talk about exploitive GFE talk about Shiori instead.

>> No.56325839

>>56325344
I think I will anti both Mio and Shiori, thank you. Por que no los dos?

>> No.56325892

>>56325839
redditor hands typed this post

>> No.56325942

>>56325892
Crystal Cafe hands typed this post

>> No.56326126

>>56293230
No.

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>>56293230

>> No.56326529

too much talking, where archive

>> No.56326979

>>56322075
No she is a real whore.

>> No.56327015

>>56326529
ok got it, do thread reps everyone, easy to find

>> No.56327017

>>56322721
No she is a whore turned med school dropout whore.

>> No.56327148

>>56327015
The youtube link got taken down everywhere, what do you mean?

>> No.56327219

I'll just wait for AI chuubas to get there.

>> No.56327245

>>56293230
Just like, have fun, you sad retard.
Also don't post my girlfriend on the catalog every again.

>> No.56327438

>>56322284
Would you rather half of your donation goes to youtube on the supercuck system? get real

>> No.56327573

>>56293230
100%, its pure evil and also serves only to further push all ready unwanted guys away from the actual real love and affection they crave. Its a sad existence on both sides

>> No.56327963

>>56327573
>Unwanted men
>Keeps them from finding love
Pick one

>> No.56328723

>>56327148
look at her thread, not this one

>> No.56328933

>>56327573
Imagine believing in "actual real love and affection" in current year. Nothing but instathots, e-thots, and AI waifus await unwanted guys, but at least it provides a simulated GFE experience. Nobody escapes the world's oldest profession, and I for one welcome the return of exploitative emotional prostitution so guys can wise up to the ruse while simps get milked for everything they are worth.

>> No.56329147

>>56328723
She has a thread? Definitely not in tsun

>> No.56329786

>>56295532
>still up
Holofags and numberfags can't do shit lmao

>> No.56329946

>>56329147
Yes it is in tsun....also reposted courtesy of /asmr/ if you want to check there too for Based64 links.

>> No.56330171

>>56320469
Anon, she is insecure about viewers "keking" her with other chuubas. I'd say her feelings are real towards viewers, but at the end of the day she is retarded woman, doing some retard shit from time to time. I'm willing to look away at some things she does as long as it doesn't cause a big yab for me. I won't sugarcoat if she asks "WOULD YOU BE UPSET ME TALKING WITH TEMPISS GUY?" and things like Millie did on her stream though

>> No.56330279

>>56329786
You underestimate how slow Twitter's report system really is.

>> No.56330494

>Thread dedicated to shilling literal whos GFE
>Zero working links provided
What the fuck was the point of this thread? You want people to sub to her but you've provided zero reason to.

>> No.56330620

>>56330494
I don't even know. I want the sauce, though. The stream itself is privated.

>> No.56330664

>>56330494
>>56329946
You guys don't deserve the spoonfeed, but here you go anyways. More Mio appreciators will hopefully raise the bar for the pitiful state of western GFE chuubas.
>>56314366

>> No.56330691

>>56330620
>>56330494
Nigger two people posted links to a gofile archive and a youtube reupload kill yourself DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE

>> No.56330836

>>56327573
They are already unwanted. I don't feel like I'm unwanted person, maybe I have too high opinion of myself and that's why I can't really attach to vtubers.

>> No.56331460

>>56328723
Based anon

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>>56330691
YouTube upload is broken and I ain't downloading a whole ass VOD to go try to find one specific moment. I'm just gonna assume you people are making shit up as per usual.

>> No.56332107

>>56330171
>Anon, she is insecure about viewers "keking" her with other chuubas
I don't understand what you're getting at here. So it's justified for her to joke about cucking her fans to "get revenge" for something they might not even be doing?
Or is it that she's supposed to be the cuck in every joke/reference she makes to NTR?

>> No.56332225

>>56332107
I'm saying those jokes are just poor taste and nothing more, does she really jokes often about NTR? Can't say I catch her every stream, every third more like, I'm not sure I heard any NTR jokes, worst I heard is her fangirling over tempiss, before her cover I think

>> No.56332434

I just listened to the upload on gofile, it seems nice and all but nothing spectacular unless you have an emotional connection to miori which I personally don't.
Are people mad for any reason that isn't: "Wah this should be muh sekrit member asmr only greynames go die"

>> No.56334182

>>56332225
>does she really jokes often about NTR?
No, and she goes out of her way to not mention other people on stream

>>56332434
The actual members aren't mad about this being public

>> No.56334247

>>56332434
The only person mad is Mio herself because she hates doing this lovey dovey shit in public streams

>> No.56335771

>>56334247
I see. She has a very sex model but asmr does nothing for me outside of 18+ stuff.
>>56334182
good to see her fanbase aren't total apes then

>> No.56335881

>>56295532
Phasebros I don’t feel so good…

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