/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

They won't.

>>56258605
the usual bait threads, then everyone will forget they exist until the next collab with girls

NTR will truly thrive

I wish they did, but things aren't looking very bright

>>56258605
They're going to realize that they wasted a month speculating about a nothingburger. They'll have a triumphant return stream followed by collabing with Shiori.

Will finally be happy again but I am the odd one out on this site since I like the homos lol

>>56258605
Go back to making Yabadadoo threads

>>56258605

>>56258888
HOMOCHAD DOMINATION

>>56258605
Everyone will be mad for a while. Then everything will go back to normal, at least for a little while. Expect the mad to flare up hardcore if they end up collabing with one or two of the Advent girls.

Resume cuckposting until Vesper gets suspended again, and then make fun of him again

>>56258605
Who?
Looks like some of those endless Nijishitters. Not interested then, buy an ad instead

>>56258888
Can you retards stop choosing a different cope every week?

Nobody cares, maybe a week then theyll be ignored like their whole branch.

>>56258888
The most rearsed rrat

>>56258888
Honestly i also was talking about this with some people a few days ago. By the nature of the sudden stop, a lot of arguments of the same kind, testimonies and what happened recently its most probably a problem about model IP. They aren't suspended or fired but to avoid further problems they had to stop their activities until Cover lawers resolve this matter and you know how sluggish any legal shit is.

I feel pity for them honestly. Basically they are still holostars but can't stream cuz legal shit that wasn't even their fault.

>>56258888
>COLLAAAAAAAAB...A COLLAB FOR MY BOOOOOOOOOYS? IT WOULD BE SO EPIIIIIIIIIC... JUST ONE COLLAB FOR MY BOOOOOOOOOOOYS

>>56258888
retarded

>>56259460
I also hear about that before. But they could at least let them use twitter not just freeze them and return like if nothing happened.

>>56258605
they're not coming back. one person? maybe sick. two? suspension. a suspension this long? termination.

>>56259722
Yeah but that's how cover doest stuff... they will try to save face until the last minute. I bet my balls when they come back they will be forbiden to talk about the matter because that will put coven on a bad light

I wonder if that one person who coincidentally sounds like Magni and complained about his waiter uniform once has anything to say about this considering he's been streaming a lot recently.

>>56259808
Then prepare for vesper 3rd suspension cuz the retard isnt gonna stay silent. That is if he ever comes back

I hope they collab with every girl not only on EN but also JP, and they end each stream with them DPing the girl they collabed with that day.

>>56259460
This.
Schizos thinking they're getting a 2+ month suspension because of something they did is retarded. If it were that bad they would've just terminated them.

>>56260056
It'd be worth a week vacation to thrown them under the bus.

>>56258888
But Magni's update was just a touch-up. Did his Mama not do it herself?

>>56260056
If he does that even if i kinda like the guy i would find it undertandable. If he doesn't follow rules thet would be his fault.

Me personally, I’ll cum

>>56259460
>>56260326
Y'know I usually don't see these copes in the wild, it's almost impressive that you all have convinced yourself that them being gone for approaching a month and a half is a nothingburger.
They're clearly under investigation for something, especially Vesper. Idk exactly what that is, most likely an NDA breach but could be some other issue. But to pretend they're not effectively suspended atm is dumb as hell.

>>56258605
Laugh at unicorns.

>>56258605
Vesper will immediately seek out and impregnate your oshi on live television.

>>56260326
Then why so insecure sister, who are you trying to persuade with your rrats if you're sure they're blameless

I genuinely wonder what happened to them, it's kind of odd how they just stopped streaming and holoprod just said "they're not going to be streaming for a while" with no further explanation.

>>56260326
Roa has been away for over 3 years, because of legal stuff (she just lost her court case). Magni and Vesper might be in legal limbo for just as long.

>>56260674
I just want to know i dont care if they come back or not

Vesper and Magni went on a fishing trip and are MIA. Police are currently on the lookout.

>>56258888
Sister this is some next level cope lmao.

>>56260361
You're right. But these people are grasping at whatever straws they can to feel better so don't question their logic.

>>56258888
Hoy shit I wish I was this delusional when I had to wait 22 months for Pekora to get an official outfit

A reminder to the sisters. Unicorns absolutely won.

>>56260674
Same, I'd like even a little more info than the nothing we got. Funny thing is, I've barely even noticed they're missing, the rest of tempus just kept on going while the only time I hear about these two are catalog bait threads like this

>>56258605
Sisters will think they won while ignoring the fact the two disappeared for months

>>56258605
>when they come back?
* IF * they come back

>>56258605
>when
Depends if we ever find out what the fuck happened. This is the biggest holo mystery on the EN side. It doesn't make any sense for it to be some personal disaster considering they both got put in limbo at the same time and Magni is doing just fine. Artist disputes make no sense either nor does contract negotations or strikes or any other of the retarded sister copes but fuck if I have anything more compelling to offer in terms of rrats.

>>56261324
Your oshi can't get unfucked.

>>56261840
Sakura Miko is still a virgin

They suspended him because he insisted on coming to holosummer spash party with Magni as his plus one.

>AIEEEEE! Omegay has returned!!! Mr. Jap betrayed us and caught Gura in her secret scheme to destroy all Homostars! Unicornchads our response?????

>>56258888
>>56259460
Vesper 1.0 mama recently came back from death so this rrat is getting stronger tbf

>>56261746
Magni has been pretty burnt out in the past few months while increasing his RM activity. His redesign also looks like shit and did nothing to increase his numbers. Wouldn't be surprised if he just decided to jump ship.
Vesper already has a suspension and did nothing but cause drama in the past few months. Not hard to imagine the retard getting kicked out at some point.
Then you have the obvious management changes in EN and the change of direction with a return to CGDCT and females only content.
Either they fucked up and under investigation or jumping ship.

>>56258888
>we're the ones wasting a month
k

>>56263245
And Jap-san will personally behead V*sper.

>>56263245
so true unichad bro! #coom4moom

>>56259460
>a problem about model IP
Makes no sense since at no point, during the whole commission process, any of the artists or riggers owned the likeness of the characters.
Even if they somehow did, they sure as fuck never owned the names of the characters, meaning any activity not involving the models would be completely fair game, especially the use of their twitter accounts.
EVEN IF for whatever reality-bending reason they have any claim on the names, it would make absolutely no sense that both Magni and Vesper got hit at the same time for the same reason since they have different artists and riggers.
You might as well buy into the jail rrat because this one isn't really any more believable than that.

>>56263480
post tits

>>56263493
The IP dispute wouldn't be from the artists or riggers that made Vesper's model. It would be from stolen art.

>>56263480
Seethe sister.

>>56263606
Ok but that still doesn't clear the last point, the fact that both of them got hit at the same time.

>>56263856
Unless Magni's art was always stolen.

>>56264177
Yeah, well
>You might as well buy into the jail rrat because this one isn't really any more believable than that

>>56264279
Why? It doesn't even have to actually BE stolen, just plausible enough for an anti to cause a problem.
And that's if it's human art. If it's AI without licensing that could be a serious problem, too.

an uptick in bait threads about how vesper is le gigachad who fucked everyone
more speculation about what the fuck happened cause they sure as shit ain't gonna tell us

One thing is for sure regardless on your position. They haven't been fired regardless if you like them or not. Makes no sense to think otherwise. Cover have no problem to terminate any talent no matter how succesful they are Rushia was a good example. She was basically the top earner and one of the most iconi0c members of the vtuber community and yet that didn't save her from getting her ass kicked out at the instant she caused any problem.

Cover will not stutter or try to hide they terminate 2 low subbed talents if they caused a problem? Why? For what purpose? That wont damage their image if they did something. If they haven't been clear on the matter means its a tricky situacion that doesn't involve the talent directly so its a Cover issue.

>>56258605

The faggot is gone. No regerts.
The actual faggot will not return because of the drama.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it, sisters.

>>56264527
It wasn't the "instant" problem that got Rushia fired. It was CONTINUOUS problems that got her booted.
You're right about them firing Vesper. Unless they're playing smart and stringing them along so they don't run off on a smear campaign after being fired.

>>56264390
Because if that was a thing, antis would have already exploited it for much bigger targets than fucking StarsEN.

>>56258605
You see, OP, this world runs on comedy. If they come back, everything will simple go back to how it used to be, shitposting will resume and that's all. As boring as always. Now imagine what happens if they really get fired: all shitposters will be an absolute panic at how they just lost 2 great assets, all the homobeggars in denial will pretend they never cared about the homos, and /vt/ will be nonstop threads making fun of the homos and Omega.
For entertainment's sake, which option do you think seems more interesting?

>>56258605
The usual sperg out, BTFOs here and there and then back to normal before the next yab happens between those two and then they go back to celebrating, BTFOing etc. and the process repeats itself

it will be fund to watch the brapper piss all the kudos she got for her good behaviour and effort to get back in the holobox with one collab stream. Other than that I will just go back to not even remembering they exist

>>56264785
Look, you're not going to allow any hypothesizing at all. If you want to wait for facts or statements or whatever, fuck off and stop baiting. I won't stop you from being silent.
But with the information we have now, this is the best fit theory.

>>56264684
>Unless they're playing smart and stringing them along so they don't run off on a smear campaign after being fired.

I really doubt this you need to sign a NDA BEFORE joining Cover not after. Rushia got in a hell of legal issues because of this precisely same as other talents from other agencies.

So no its not any thing about firing them that would be way too easy for them if they did something have to be something else. Guess thats why so many people are talking about IP and some other shit. Odc all theories are pull out of everyone ass nobody knows for sure whats happening since cover haven't release any official statement.

>>56258605
ONE MORE MONTH SISTERS, TRUST THE PLAN, THEY WILL RETURN!

>>56258605
Who?

real talk, where is vesper? hard to figure him out if his rm isn't active

>>56265312
>this is the best fit theory
But it really isn't, you're just deluding yourself into thinking it is because you fear the alternative scenarios.

>>56265758
This might be a doxx but most probably he's on his house right now. Just dont tell anyone else.

>>56258888
I don't recall IRyS talking about ip other than not using 1.0 anymore because it was obviously superseded by 2.0. I don't see how that situation is comparable to not being able to stream or do any activities at all for over a month

Can't wait for all of the seethe Vesper will generate when he comes back and collabs with Advent

>>56265978
Stop Ban evading faggot.

>>56265884
no shit lol

>>56265932
TL;DR Cover fucked up somehow on legal issues before releasing the models. Not the first time a company do this based on experience. Not the last. Companies are not perfect they do messed things up sometimes.

>>56265978
>YABBA DABBA DO! interesting interesting...

>>56258605
If they return I will laugh at the unicorns
if they graduate I will laugh at the sisters
Simple really

>>56264903
Shitposting about omega and homos is literally this board’s most tired joke, and it’s all you do anyways

>>56266135
Isnt magni’s rigging the only real difference to his model? I don’t see how his model fits in this equation

>>56265848
Your "theory" is... nothing? then don't talk ha ha

>>56266135
That wouldn't require a total stoppage of activities though. At most they just would use the model on screen which pletty of holos have done when there's technical issues

>>56258605
Raid the Kronii thread and laugh in their faces

>>56266271
I won't get into complicated legal stuff here but to put it in a term most people can undertand... Riggin artists can be assholes...

>It's an issue with their costumes!
Why? They could just use their old ones, like how they stopped the 2.0 upgrade rollouts because they were bugged.
>It's an IP issue!
Fucking how? Cover owns anything they commissioned, and Pako loves the boys, I doubt he's suddenly blocking his own outfit for some reason.
>It's AI!
Where? Show me which part of their new outfits are AI. Nevermind for all the bluster surrounding AI, there's very little legislation and thus disincentive against it. Fucking Wizards of the Coast and Disney have used AI in products.

>>56266293
so is yours. now shut the fuck up and stop delcaring your own head cannon as "the best theory rn"

>>56266517
They are... but agencies are not saints either sometimes the issue are the agecy being assholes to artists too so don't skip that.

Spending weeks even months rigging a high quality model with a lot of features just for the agency who commision it being completly unfair about payment and royalties is just disgusting.

>>56265978
No one gives a fuck sister. Unicorns already won. Assuming this faggot returns he'll just go back at being an irrelevant 1k shitter spamming WoW streams and only get used by tourists for shitposting. Tempiss was a massive flop and even Cover realized it.

>>56258605
If they come back, both of their models should have black eyes that they're not allowed to acknowledge.

>>56258888
this is honestly the most rational rrat i can believe
it's been a fucking month and still nothing even remotely softly confirming a termination has came up
the most i can believe is legal trouble regarding their models that needs to be resolved

>>56265978
>Comes back from over a months long suspension
>The thing "his" own "fans" are looking forward to most is a collab with EN3
Holy shit not even YOU like him!

>>56267214
even if he's not here you're still seething, beautiful

>>56266750
its probably related to the August 19th bit Bettel.. and it would be kino if both of them showed up to beat the shit out of him for some haha

>get in the cuckshed or infinity limbo, take your pick. Fags.

>>56258605
I hope they come back soon so they can stream with Shiori and Kronii

>>56259485
Giving this the (you) it deserves because lmao

>>56267582
>even if he's not here you're still seething, beautiful

>>56267321
This, people who like homos just to spite fans of the girls are not fans at all, they are just asspained tryhards who will cheer on any opposition out of their bleeding butthurt

>>56267907
>No one gives a fuck sister. Unicorns already won. Assuming this faggot returns he'll just go back at being an irrelevant 1k shitter spamming WoW streams and only get used by tourists for shitposting. Tempiss was a massive flop and even Cover realized it.

>>56258888
The copyright IP rrat doesn't make sense because only Vesper got a full 2.0 redesign and wouldn't explain why Magni is radio silent on his Tempus accounts. Cover has been doing this for years and everything involving the vtuber models would be contract work. Having their activities stopped might not be saying it out loud but they are having some type of dispute with management.

>>56265978
>blocks your path

>>56268381
>images ree

>>56267071
>ask for theory
>get one
>complain
>>>/twitter/

>>56268240
>that underaged basedjak pic
kek the absolute state of homobeggars

>56268240
where do you faggots even come from

>>56268280
Also IP dispute wouldn't be a reason for Cover to gag not just the boys but whole branch from talking about it. Not once (to my recollection) has anyone said directly "vesper and magni are fine, they're not in trouble and they will be back when the issue holding them up is solved." All we have heard is crickets and that Vesper and Magni will not be releasing new voicepacks like the rest of Holo (even Haachama will do hers eventually when she is back from the hospital, we were told). And we know Magni is already continuing on outside of being Magni at the moment, so he is not dead or in jail or something, just unable to stream as Magni for whatever reason.

Do they think an IP lawsuit would ban the boys from using the chars forever by law or something or would it be more like an artist trying to dig into Cover's pockets and extort them for extra money. As was said this would be kind of unthinkable to do because there is no obvious reason there would even be a case at hand but it would also ruin the fuck out of any artists involved if their reputation is that they are liable to sue their employers for the hell of it if they want more money.

I think what could have happened is Vesper got in a stink with management again and either was borderline fired or it was basically-imminent and Magni tried to basically take the bullet for him going "if he goes you have to fire me too" and Cover simply went "well if you say so" and obliged. That or it is NDA breach from both of them and they were locked out without warning so Cover could investigate before they could tamper with evidence, and are simply slow walking their graduation to not cause drama in the background of Advent getting established.

>>56268240
Perfect summary of incels and Unicorns right now.

>>56269051
This lacks any rationality, its full of imaginary scenarios and makes no sense Cover could easily terminate both of them inmediately if that was the scenario. Still the ip theory is more credible.

>>56268240
You lost. Give up on your worthless life already.

>>56258605
Depend on how they will come back but i'll anyway found something to make the sister and fagot seethe. If they give an explaination i'll use that, if they don't i'll use that. But honnestly you ask me what i'll do when they will come back, which they won't. RN the whole point is which one of the 6 left is going to be next.

>>56258605
i hope vesper graduates as fast as possible, so i can go back talking about kronii's tits without seeing fags mentioning him.

>>56269051
Also because that was a long post already I didn't bellish my own theory further but I think Advent might have led to a blowup ok the first place.

Now that we know most of Advent doesn't care about the homos and yet the homos share a discord with the EN girls, and the new gen is introduced to the rest of the branch not long before debut (following up 3-4 months of training as a gen)... The timing is a lot around the time Advents would be getting familiar with the other EN girls. If Vesper/Magni were like "hey Fuwamoco we should collab" and were given the cold shoulder that could have escalated. I can see the dogs outright saying they flatly don't want to associate with Tempus period including on discord and vesper/magni throwing a tantrum to the point management stepped in to forcibly shut them up.

>>56263480
#coom4moom is so funny because most of us just would unashamedly, #cut4hex is entirely different, sis

>>56268985
if he was able to get (You)'s then what's the point?

>>56258605
God, please, i WILL grudgepost for weeks

>>56268820
so you don't deny that you're an actual fucking basedboy then? nice to know

>>56260486
You can't name what they both did but believe they must have done something. Nigger I don't like the fans but you sound like a coping faggot.

>>56269585
They delayed Council's debut because of Coco's graduation, they very much do not want any drama spoiling the hype of a new gen. There is no consequence to their waiting to announce termination later while there would be one to do it a few weeks ago - both for the new girls and for Tempus' own one year event. It would be a bad ominous look to have a one year ""celebration"" a gen where 50% of their starting group was fired and couldn't even make it to the 1-year mark. So they just did not do the anniversary at all instead. Financially it would make no sense to skip an anniversary for vesper/magni and Cover itself, so they basically did that because they actually-really-had-to.

>>56258605
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>MALES MALES MALES MALES!!!
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>same image
are you the fag that keeps bringing these up? be fucking honest with me

>>56270535
They debuted Tempus during Sana's graduation month. This rrat doesn't really fly.

>>56258605
They won't. Magni just wants out because he isn't having fun. Vesper is getting fired Rushia style. The reason Cover is taking so long to give an official response is two-sided. They were trying to get Magni to continue the 1 year contract, but they realized that there's no changing his mind around a week before the Advent announcement. He might come back for a graduation stream, but my bets are on him just leaving. They keep drawing it out now as to make sure the announcement doesn't draw resources and news away from the still relatively new Advent girls.
>tl:dr
Vesper will be fully terminated, Magni might come back for a graduation stream only. Announcement for their fates will likely be either this weekend or next week.

>>56270535
It's already been 2 weeks retard. They could have done it and no one would have cared because they're watching fuwamocco

One of them just went live on twitch to play genshit
It's so fucking over sisters

>>56270791
anon, those are different companies entirely.
>but theyre all holopro
HoloPro is the parent company, with both Hololive (with its different branches) and Holostars (with its different branches) underneath.

>>56270801
it's been two fucking weeks since Advent hype died down, where is the fucking announcement? WHERE IS IT?! You cunts always today, then tomorrow, then this weekend, then next week,... what's next? Next month? Next year? I'm starting to believe this isn't a termination or a graduation.

>>56271032
Then they'd have zero issues with them terminating the fags

>>56269585
>Still the ip theory is more credible.
Explain Magni EXCLUSIVELY with the IP theory. He got a touch up and new accessories BY HIS ARTIST AND RIGGER, so explain why would they ever sue Cover when they themselves worked on his update. Come on, I know you can (not) do it.

>>56271108
>>56271156
Even though they're under different companies, an announcement from one will still affect the other, especially because of both sharing the Holo prefix. Be patient, anon. Retribution will arrive soon enough.

>>56270801
2 more weeks bro! t-this time for sure!

>garbage designs
who are these indies? same agency as that thailand chuuba?

>>56270330
I'm sorry but I'm not interested in arguing with some underaged tourist. Go back and stay there.

>>56268240
more evidence that homobeggars are hololive antis

>>56271863
>2 more weeks bro! t-this time for sure!
I specifically said it'd be less than 2 weeks from now to avoid you sisters saying this but whatever.

>>56270801
>the announcement doesn't draw resources and news away from
Yeah, that 0.1% of people that watch both Tempus an Advent is such an inportantr crowd.
Don't be stupid, anon.

>>56270520
The sisters biggest cope relies on a fucking fictional scenario that somehow both of their artists or riggers are suing Cover for whatever when both of Magni's actually worked on his touch-up model. You really think this is in any way more plausible than both of them leaking shit to outsiders when there is proof that both of them are either close to or have few degrees of separation from dramatubers?

>>56271108
I dunno what will happen but I mean realistically the signs don't look good, to imagine that they will come back like nothing went wrong and resume streaming like usual legit seems less likely than a major change including possibly one or both leaving.

I mean, they were fucking disappeared by Cover. Gone without a trace, none of us truly knows what happened to them, and those who do know can't say or even hint it (including Magni himself).

Usually, this kind of thing does not happen to people who are in good standing with the ones doing the disappearing. Do you think, do you THINK, that Cover would come bind and gag vesper and magni and kidnap them in the middle of the night and threaten any witness who talks about it if they were happy with these guys?

If it was a neutral external dispute Cover would not hesitate to reassure the fans these guys will be back - they have not. Breaks for health or family etc are outright announced, Cover is not that secretive. None of their genmates have been able to say even a word about it and neither have the pro-homo EN girls either. You would think if it were just a misunderstanding Mori or Kronii would tell us straight up or skirt on the edges of hinting everything is fine. Nothing is far.

I think Cover is slow burning this process not just for Advent but to try to let the fans gear themselves up for it and get used to a Tempus without them first. I could easily see an advisor saying "let them slowly come to accept the idea it could really happen and go through the steps of grief before confirming it" to try to tone down the reaction because a double firing is unprecedented and they don't want to risk people thinking the entire branch is about to collapse. Rather they are demonstrating it can go on without them first. I think this is actually done for the benefit of the remaining homos to naturally take in vesper/magni fans as refugees and give the viewers time to acclimatize, moresk than because of Advent (although that has to be a favor too) - so that the remaining dudes stand good odds of keeping their remaining fans.

Rushia was fired because NDA breach and they wanted to make that very clear and had no choice on the timing because Cove had to respond to Korekore's big leak stream that had just happened clearly exposing leaks. If that happened and Cover waited for months to terminate her that would look weak as fuck, plus give extra time for either Rushia or more leakers to come forward thinking it's low key OK to do that and not actually a termination worthy offense. Cover had to make it clear no, it is in response. With Vesper/Magni they control this situation this time and can handle it on their own timing as best they judge it to strategically minimize the losses incurred.

>>56271707
>Retribution will arrive soon enough
i wish you didn't say this... you've already set a bad precedent now i'll just stay quiet.

>>56272805
Believe it or not, unicorns like me and assumedly (You) aren't a vast majority of the fanbase. There are many that watch both and would be affected by Cover doing something like brushing two terminations under the rug.
also
>that 0.1%
>an Advent
It's 9AM in Jakarta right now, huh.

>>56266204
Based wotld-burning watcher enjoyer, and same.
In fact I hope their absence continues for another month or two and then they do indeed return like nothing happened. The uproar will be hilarious to watch

>>56272891
Literally post proof of anything done or fuck off. It's been two months of non stop "IT'S HAPPENING BROS, THEY'RE GONNA TERMINATE THEM". I know homobeggars are obnoxious troons but you somehow managed to surpass them in faggotry by non stop talking about dicks

>>56258605
it'll be so unhinged, its gonna be epic!

>>56273328
>talents going silent for over a month and being forced to not stream or text on their mains is perfectly normal because...

>>56258888
rights? what rights. artists gets no rights when it's work for hire. or do nips not have that.

>>56271108
They need time to Stalin those two from anniversary merch for tembussy

>>56272999
one of them is leaving, and it's definitely Magni hands down, no cap

>>56271669
If the issue where simple they wouldn't have been force to stop their talent activities don't you think? Go ask cover legal team they are also struggling with this very problem i bet you as a profesional lawer as every single person here can quickly call them out.

>>56259485
KEK, good one anon

>>56273328
>proof
There's NEGATIVE proof of anything, it's pure speculation on all fronts, but there something called "educated guess" and the IP bullshit is not educated in any sense of the word. If you want proof that these two are close to dramatubers here's not-Magni announcing a stream with Nux's editor (who claimed that he could find out what happened on stream the day after the initial announcement), and here's proof that not-Vesper is close to the purple twink dramatuber fR7yVQVqOGk.

>>56273609
Nigger you still didn't explain why Magni got hit when his touch-up is not any different from the Holomem getting a 3.0 rigging with new accessories. He didn't change artist, didn't change rigger but somehow both are taking legal action against Cover because...?

>>56273609
>>56273941 (me)
Oh yeah, and Magni's rigger is Jujube. You know, someone who rigged a fuckton of Holos including FuwaMoco? Why would he still work with Cover if he's suing them for whatever the fuck happened with Magni?

> One year after debuts is almost up, time to renegotiate contracts
> Magni and Vesper think they are hot shit and push for better revenue split in renewal
> Cover does not bulge
> Time passes, Magni and Vesper think that time is on their side and Cover would be forced to yield to make way for anniversary
> Cover in fact, does not yield
> Contract is now technically expired, so they are bared from streaming until it's renewed
> Rest of tempest now have indefinitely delayed anniversary
Woman moment if I even seen one.

Mass Novelite suicide

>>56258605
Who?

>>56258888
IRyS original and update are both by Redjuice, retards.

>>56273253
Ye unicorn aren't the majority of the fanbase, they are the majority of the money though, so they are more important than (you) Friendly remember that kronii is the hololive EN member that sell the least merch by a huge bargain.

>>56274359
is that how it works in US/Japan regarding work contract? in my country, the corpo will give you time to negotiate, when time is up, and both party cant agree in a new contract, that means they dont have any work affiliation anyore. It's that easy, oh and the time the corporation gives usually 2 weeks max.
Either Cover gave them reaaaalllly long time to negotiate or something happen, i tend to believe the latter

>>56274359
>Contract is expired so they are barred from streaming unless they renew

That actually makes a damn lot of sense only.. if this was the case, why did both of them drop all activity for a few weeks first? Their going on strike trying to get a better deal?

I mean if this is the case they have been toast since Aug 1 presumably and Cover has just been trying to figure out how to damage control it best. Magni doing streaming outside of his char feels a ton like he is just getting the jump on how he moves forward, deciding not to be a vtuber anymore. If Vesper still wants to do vtubing but can't as Vesper he might just lay low while he figures out his reincarnation if he does not want to keep being orc man afterwards.

>>56275469
Lol they are not. That what they keep telling themself to feel important.

>>56275550
They might very well be unaffiliated, locked out of accounts and without any pay right now.
It's just that by not announcing graduation/termination Cover leaves a way for them to get over their hissy-fit and sign new contract, which Cover would obviously prefer after just spending money on model updates and preparing anniversary merch.

>>56275963
>Their going on strike trying to get a better deal?
Yeah, sounds way more plausible, than "Ughh, they cannot stream because of legal dispute with rigger."

>>56273328
Anon when have these long absences ever gone well for the long term prospects of the absentee?

Sure a couple of times it turned out to be a serious rm health issue at fault but realistically we know that's not the case with vesper and magni because vesper has been a cause for drama since debut to the point he got himself publicly suspended once and magni is pals with all the drama circles on twitch and is likely a dramafaggot himself, so the chances of this being anything health related as opposed to drama and their getting punished for it are against the odds.

Magni Dezmond peer pressured Yagoo into injecting 2 whole marijuanas at a convention. Vesper was arrested at a casino for turning tricks for quarters for the slot machine and is performing community service.

>>56269051
Both parties (that we know of) being this airtight about what happened usually means that it's a legal issue. If they had run afoul of Cover, as contracted employees they'd be dropped in a heartbeat. The fact they haven't been outright fired by now suggests an outside party is involved.

One rrat I haven't seen much of is the possibility of a dispute between Vesper and Magni themselves, with Cover suspending their accounts while they try to mediate between the talents.

>>56269925
>t. mindbroken kronie
this is why they still spam you guys instead of spamming Bae's general with porn of her and the clown btw. you keep showing your weakness

>>56267214
> Unicorns already won
We only have to be lucky once. You have to be lucky every time.

>>56276094
Numbers objectively prove otherwise. In a couple week Advent has achieved more than your faggots did in an entire year.

>>56265978
I'd like to see this just to see the catalog burn because of these repeated bait threads..

>>56276182
what i mean with they dont have work affiliation anymore is they are agree to go separate ways, The only way to work with them is to reapply. And Cover shall and must announce about that. There's nothing good to hide that

>>56277341
They will return thats for sure we are just having fun with these unicorns. When they do they will act like if nothing happened or just shrug it off telling they will fail. When they dont they will just keep hating them like always.

>>56277146
Lmao no, every second a girl is streaming without a homo, homobeggars are losing.
The true winners are cgdctfags.

>>56264903
>For entertainment's sake, which option do you think seems more interesting?
the homos collabing with all advent

>>56277978
please, read this again >>56277146

>>56277722
>They will return thats for sure

Ahh the "just you wait" card, the only cope they have left

>>56278209
Yes, I've read it again, thank you very much.

>>56278209
Still hoping for that Gura collab?

>>56278598
it could be another two months of radio silence and we'd still be told to "JUST WAIT UNTIL THEY COME BACK"

Tachibana ratt makes the most sense to me cuz of it being 100% known Tachibana was doing shit that is not allowed plus the fact the magni worked with him lot and magni was known to be actively doing projects. my guess is magni and vesper was working with Tachibana cover caught wind of a leak was unsure who leaked it thought it could have been vesper and magni so put them on ice then found out it was Tachibana so now they are suing him for it which has kept vesper and magni away.

>>56275469
lol not true at all and like you would have any knowledge about how much merch Kronii sells.

>>56279776
>so now they are suing him for it which has kept vesper and magni away
This is Cover we're talking about, not Anycolor, and Bettel also worked with Tachibana and as you can clearly see isn't not-suspended like those two. Also why would Vesper work with a music producer when he barely does anything music related? He didn't even work with Tachibana on his only cover.

As I see it them returning could mean some advent collabs, that's assuming the girls are retarded enought to take their newly acquired golden ticket and throw it away in a fit.
So far we know Fuwamoco is safe because they are actual holofags and want to do idol stuff, Nerissa already said that Hololive is an idol company to her so it's pretty clear what she wants from it.
Bijou and Shiori are the ones people should worry about, their FPS collabs with kobo and only will be a homo magnet and kobo, without any malicious intent because she's mostly a normie, she might take a screenshot of the advent girls playing valo with tempus and her while not streaming just like she did with Laplus when she was trying to salvage her reputation.

>>56280278
>Also why would Vesper work with a music producer when he barely does anything music related?
for the tempus anniversary.

>>56280278
my thought was a future project was leaked to someone yes vesper doesn't music much but the anniversary is a big fucking deal him doing a music thing or collab on a music thing with magni is not out of question. bettel's music is said and done so it doesnt effect him. seriously why do all Tachibana think of previously completed projects those dont matter the issue is projects in development which start long before we know they exist? yes there are flaws to this theory but there are to every theory we've had theories are pointless they simply act to fill space until we get an update in the end only those involved know the truth.

>>56280524
>Laplus
>trying to salvage her reputation
Also Kobo asked for her permission before posting it

>>56279776
>my guess is magni and vesper was working with Tachibana cover caught wind of a leak was unsure who leaked it thought it could have been vesper and magni so put them on ice then found out it was Tachibana so now they are suing him for it which has kept vesper and magni away.
To add to this, can't Cover claim damages from lost revenue after being "forced" to sideline 2 of their talents (near their 1-year anniversary no less!) while this is resolved? I'm wondering if this contributes to Magni and Vesper not returning until they crush Tachibana in court.

>>56269051
>Not once (to my recollection) has anyone said directly "vesper and magni are fine, they're not in trouble and they will be back when the issue holding them up is solved."
they've said they're just as in the dark about magni and vesper as we are.

>>56281862
Again this is Cover we're talking about, not Anycolor. Cover never did something like that in the past and the emblematic case for this practice ended up with the talent leaving Nijisanji because she got tired of it so why the hell would they do this with two of their top performing homos with the chance that they might just fuck off even if they're allowed to come back?

>>56281862
oh ya the probably would have an argument if nothing else vesper and magni defiantly have and argument for lost revenue since they were forced away from streaming heck all of HQ could argue lost rev since merch couldnt release

>>56282311
The fact that they can't communicate with their gen mates, not even to let them have a rough idea of what's going on, makes the situation ever more grim. This is Cover intentionally cutting them off from any contact they had as their Holostars personas.

Anyway for a change of peace let me resume some of the prospects of various rrat and cope :
> graduation/terminated/contract not renewed
Obviously forever
> IP issue
Around a decade, probably more since international shit will be involved, as good as gone.
> Doxx shit
Those kind of thing are either solved within 2 weeks or would take at least one year.
> conflict between those two
Historicaly the last one lasted for 3 years.

>>56277596
NTA, that's how temp/contractual works in my country. Usually they still get paid as long as the company doesn't strike them as AWOL. Workers still need to turnover duties and responsibilities to another worker for that matter.

>>56269051
>>56270535
Proof next thread?

>>56283236
They can communicate, but they can't talk about having communicated on stream

How many times should I tell you?
They're just striking in solidarity with the WGA
They won't return unless the whole situation is resolved and the strike is over

>>56284320
Changes nothing really, if they can't say it on stream it's because Cover is officially isolating them.

>>56284320
From what I noticed only Hakka mentions them regularly. The headquarter boys, altair too vague to get anything while axel is on a doomposting rant while making his genmates a scapegoat.

>>56258888
This rrat is extremely high quality.
I legit believe it, because VTuber vs Artist is a common source of unneeded drama. Far more believable than silent suspension.

>>56276472
>Anon when have these long absences ever gone well for the long term prospects of the absentee?
Gura? Haachama?
Are you this retarded?

The funniest part is that if they do come back they'll have to give a non-answer ("some stuff had to be resolved but we're back now!") and then stream like absolutely nothing happened.

>>56258605
Either Magni is patiently waiting while busting out his PL Account, or the writing on the wall is far more ominous and he's re-acquiring his old fandom

Same thread this week? Jesus you homobeggars are annoying as fuck

>>56258605
>How will this board react when they come back?
How will you react when you realize they aren't coming back?

>>56258888
>IP dispute
Top kek. This is such a delusional rrat. If there were copyright issues with their new models they could just use their old models. Homobeggars are literally fucking insane.

>>56285602
>Gura
Cover never announced any suspension of activities, her gen mates could always get in contact with her
>Haachama
Announced inactivity for health-related issues

>>56284320
>They can communicate, but they can't talk about having communicated on stream
This. Cover doesn't let them say anything about talents that are under suspension except for the management approved story. The rest of Tempus have to act like they know nothing.

>>56285602
>Gura
Outside of her announced health break on late 2022 she didn't get a "all her activities will be stop for a while" notice and was somewhat active on twitter during her long hiatus.
>Haachama
Is explicitly on a health break and also showed signs of life a few weeks ago

In summary these cases are nowhere similar to dumb and dumber's who in turn had their "hiatus" announcement written with a very similar language as previous suspension. Granted not the exact same but there's no reason for them to be locked from their twitter accounts if they're coming back anytime soon.

>>56258605
seethe even more

>>56285602
>Are you this retarded?
Uh oh sister, looks like you're the retarded one

>>56264903
>For entertainment's sake, which option do you think seems more interesting?
discord leak where the homos doing sex ERP together with EN girls, please

>>56284383
Or Cover could just not wanna put up with talents trying to force their hands with contracts and ax them. If the homos are ocnceited enough to think they are irreplaceable and can twist the arms of management at will they should remember Cover turned on a dime to drop Rushia within like a week of putting out a letter defending her, and she was literally the top earner of the ENTIRE company. Do two homos who have less combined CCV on average than literally the bottom tier JP girls really-really matter to Cover's bottom line? Not really. Their existence and status certainly would matter to someone whose ego and personal agenda is on the line but all evidence appears to suggest Omega is dead or at least relegated outside of top level influence vs Jap.

>>56264676
PLAP/PLAP
PREGNANT/PREGNANT

>>56269934
Holy delusion.

>>56258605
>They won't.

>>56258888
>Homobeggars don't even know that Magni didn't get 2.0 but only a small update
LMAO. Are unicorns have more knowledge about homos than them?

>>56288598
If there was a contract dispute cover would just graduate them, as you said these two are such small fry compared to the girls cover wouldn't even blink before telling them to fuck off

>>56277186
>>56275469
true unicorn bring money and money make world go round. in the end they work for corporate master.

>>56258605
no one know for now why they not showing any present yet, the only information available now is suspension mention.

>>56258888
>>56292663
They choose to beleive in this "coincidence" that doesnt exist, yet ignore the elephant in the room, that the suspension happened right after Vesper collabed with Altare for the first time in months when they had obvious bad blood

>>56292663
Yes, ESL-chama, the schizophrenic unicorns that spend half of their day seething about Tempus existing do probably know more about them than anyone else.

>>56270742
This unironically

>>56294208
>Wah, thanks for the stream Vesper I'm so glad we overcame our differences I had a lot of fun
>Hey Altare are your pubes the same color as your hair?
>Excuse me?
>Well I'm just wondering if your balls are as fucking blue as mine are after you took this much time away from my girls
>Vesper I'm p-
>Yes I know you're a pussy, it's not the same, now if you'll excuse me Kronii is on break again and I want to see if this new model can squeeze a grief-bang because it reminds her of Sana

>>56258888
They could appear in collabs without model and tweet without a blank avatar.

>>56264676
Why are they so yellow?

Just saying but what if they are in a legal battle against cover for some reason? they can't disclose anything because it would affect the case maybe? and cover cannot fire them while the case is on going? is a weak rrat?

The model rrat only makes sense for Vesper, not for Magni.

The real rrat is that Magni and Vesper were accused of commiting a regular crime while at AX, but Cover is not gonna fire them unless they are found guilty in a court of law.

>>56284383
>They're just striking in solidarity with the WGA
>They won't return unless the whole situation is resolved and the strike is over
That would be extremely stupid unless they make their intent clear.

>>56295156
>is a weak rrat?
Depends. What's the legal battle about?

>>56286545
>IP dispute
>Top kek. This is such a delusional rrat. If there were copyright issues with their new models they could just use their old models.
Apparently not. IRyS:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4lB2okj-N0