/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>56240111
IMPROVE YOURSELF

I don't remember ever disliking her.

>>56240111
I hardly remember what she sounds like.

I graduated from watching vtubers on easy mode, HoloEN has no use to me anymore.

>>56240111
She fucked my mom and now my mother is not there to tend me my tendies anymore. I will anti her to the day I die for my tendieless days

>>56240111
Her Mario Sunshine stream. She had a full blown melti over some plant boat level.
Someone sced her telling her to take it easy and she flipped the fuck out:
>IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, CLICK THE RED X IN THE TOP AND DON'T WATCH ME.
So that's what I did.

>>56240111
I have trouble remembering she's in hololive

>>56240183
>he didn't improve himself

>>56240111
She doesn’t love me even though I payed her money for months

>>56240111
I don't even remember who she is

>>56240111
She easily gets one guy'd and argues with chat. I watch Twitch for that kind of content. "Improve yourself" was just an example of this in action.
So no, I haven't forgotten.

>>56240111
Telling me to improve myself reminded me of the girl who I really liked who told me to basically fuck off

>>56240111
for me it wasn't one thing in particular but alot of different things over time and the final straw was her overlapping IRyS 2.0 debut, at that point I knew I was done with Ame.

>>56240183
fpbp

Only a subhuman could hate something this cute. AMEEEEEEEEE

>>56240111
>AMMMEEEEE
>ameeeee
>AAAAAMMMEEE
The power of teakeks... lol

>>56241184
speaking only for myself I don't hate but I did give up on her.

>>56240499
>>56240805
This is the main problem with Ame. She gets pissy with her chat and sometimes other holos too often. If I wanted watch some girl get huffy over a video game, I'd play games with my fucking sister.

>people itt still seething over "improve yourself"
lmao it's been over a year now

>>56240111
>>56240183

>>56240111
She's just a mean spirited person.

Her calling teamates piggiebanks two months after debut made me gravitate away from her, and seems it was the right choice

The condescension

>>56240183

>>56240111
The only thing she did that actually pissed me off was the graduation bait amogus announcement but I got over it pretty quickly

>>56240805
>Having this much of an inferiority complex over /hlgg/ culture
You will never win

Fly me to the moon~

>>56241334
How dare that cunt suggest that I improve my own life.

>>56240111
I got a new Oshi now – an Oshi that inspires me to improve myself, not someone who tells me to improve myself.

>>56240111
You know that really cute GFE holosummer short where (you) are sitting next to Ame in a yukata watching the fireworks. She said it was just a script and an example of just putting her head down and doing her job.
She is beyond done with goslings and the most creatividad project she has committed to in the last few months is the news show where she shills the homos nobody fucking cares about.

https://www.youtube.com/live/cOgynhXPKKw?feature=share&t=1336
I want to go back.

>>56242129
At what stage of self-improvement do you stop seething over something that happened a year ago and probably wasn't even directed at you in the first place?

>>56242739
>She said it was just a script and an example of just putting her head down and doing her job.
sauce?

>>56240111
Who?

>>56242129
Novelite?

>>56243086
Placing my bets on it being the Bau Bau

>>56241334
>>56242043
People ITT have given legitimate reasons why they dislike Ame that go beyond one thing she said a year ago

>>56243003
https://www.youtube.com/live/gLdSYKfSUdQ?feature=share&t=10853

>>56241312
>He has sisters that are strictly for fucking
h-hot

>>56240111
https://youtu.be/KylRjccy11A?t=14

humanity

>He doesn't know about the paypig server

>>56243277
Damn, Ame has fallen so hard. I'm not a numberfag but I've noticed just from the view count that Ame used to have a higher ccv and vod views about 1-2 years ago. That's gotta be a sign that many teamates moved on to other girls. From what I've read on here, many moved to Fauna, Mumei, and now Shiori.

You guys are sick and have a disease
https://youtu.be/hH86Lwkuzlo?t=12

>>56242739
>Ame found the script for the short a little cringey so she HATES her goslings
Ogey
Also her mentioning the stars for like a minute in her 20 minute news show is not “shilling”
>>56241725
Same

>>56244094
I said she was done with them, not that she hates them. She just doesn't care to indulge us in the same way she used to and offhand comments like
>sometimes I'm just like um okay I'm just gonna do my work you know
When referring to something every teamate loved is just an example I am using.
>mentioning the stars for like a minute in her 20 minute news show is not “shilling”
I don't give a fuck what your definition of shilling is I don't want to see Shinri's bare chest in my Ame streams and I don't want to hear her comment on Vespers "chad face". Simple as.

>>56240111
Buy an ad already.

>>56240111
I don't even remember who that is.
One of those endless nijinigger whores? Not interested then

>>56240111
It's literally just the male collab and "Improve yourself" lecture for me. She actually seems like she might otherwise be the most based girl in hololive, so she might've been my favorite if not for that.

>>56240111
The reverse, I don't remember why I even liked her early on. She is a terrible streamer where even Ina seems like a pro in comparison to Ame's autism.

>>56243086
That would make zero sense. How could someone who was pissed off by the "improve yourself" lecture start oshiing the "respect my collab choices" girl?

>>56240111
She never improved and stagnated.

>>56244656
>she doesn’t indulge goslings in the same way she used to
You mean date streams?
Ame was never really a fan of overt gfe stuff and she still does to romantic song karaoke and stuff like that
But I kind of see where you’re coming from
> is I don't want to see Shinri's bare chest in my Ame streams and I don't want to hear her comment on Vespers "chad face". Simple as.
Fair enough

>>56243277
God damn she can't even pretend a little bit. Then again after the homoshilling, it would ring false anyways.

Besides the piss-poor argument of basement dwellers timelooping old bullshit out of anger and denial, she's definitely soured over the years (picrel). Could very easily understand why people don't like her anymore, besides the fact that her only relevant presence on this board anymore is unnecessary bait and shitstirring (like this thread! fuck off OP)

I found this random vid and thought it was satire at first but by the end I wasn't sure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAN5CDkeR4U

>>56245289
Because of Anons on here psyopping everyone in 2020 into believing she's "/our/" girl as if that's tangible in any way. Liking her was considered based because she wasn't as upbeat and "fake" with her personality as the others as people would say back then. Also said nigger in her PL once ironically. This is what bred her initial goslings that are still chained by her

>>56245668
I like her well enough and I am still membered but I still want to go back.
https://www.youtube.com/live/Pqox9-28ZD0?feature=share&t=5810
https://www.youtube.com/live/cOgynhXPKKw?feature=share&t=1336
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4W2Ulbis_SE

>>56240111
*coom inside without condom*
*she makes angry gremlin sounds*

>>56245398
Someone said it politely while the other in a condescending way.

And I improved because the dogs made me want to improve without saying anything while I hated Ame for being condescending. Simple as

>>56245780
>dat pic
Literally me, I'm not even a fucking unicorn either since I dropped her for a Niji for fucks sake

>>56245867
They both sounded very condescending and antagonistic to me.

>>56240111
Yeah i do anon… we all do
>>56240183

>>56245398
>>56245924
Watch streams

>>56240111
>>56240183
speedrun

>>56245924
This >>56245984

>>56240111
I don't remember ever liking her

>>56241334
and she hasn't followed her own advice since

>>56245984
>>56246037
I literally did nigger.

>>56240111
She's too bipolar even for normal western woman standards, is a tempus shill, is STILL to this day not streaming because of her tummy hort bullshit she never bothered to properly deal with. I used to watch her but she peaked like maybe almost a year and half ago, maybe more. Kinda complacent, doesn't bother with much of anything. She's ok during some collabs, at least.

>>56245523
This, the person who needed to improve was actually herself, not us. She was on fire for the first couple months of Myth's existence but basically by the time Councilrys was out and about seemed to have run low on the creatividad juice. The thing about Ame is that even totally ignoring the homos angle she has just kind of gotten too predictable and stale. Like most streams go >plays game >does either mediocre or bad >rages at the game eventually or should I say scheduled "rages" half the time for "content" >hic >keeps playing game in the most boring way - neither so bad it's amusing nor so good it is cool to watch >has not really any interesting commentary on it or observations about anything else >some brief blog that she ate bread again or something

She is just kinda boring once you're used to the gremlin thing. You can feel her detachment from the audience and the feeling is mutual for her more impassioned viewers, so they leave. That leaves her with the more boring plain oatmeal teammates who don't really think much for themselves and just go with whatever slop Ame has warmed up in the microwave that day.

>>56246378
Also before someone >s phone autocorrected "teamates" .. maybe because I don't say that word much anymore so it assumes I didn't mean to, really makes you think.

>>56240183
Yeah
So why didn't you?

>>56240111
How can I dislike someone I never bothered watching?

>>56246671
Not watching Ame is objectively a step toward self improvement.

>>56241334
>>56242043
>>56246215
I personally believe it's all in the irony....the fact that a borderline NEET told thousands of likely depraved, jobless, faggots to get a life admist high tensions due to the male debuts. Her productivity has risen and fallen greatly, yet she still profits regardless, while everyone else either scrapes the barrel in their pool of seething or cuts it out and leaves
>>56246378
One of the only legitimate posts here. The brightest lights burn out quicker unfortunately, even as a teamate i respect anyone who doesn't see her the same

Ame is the perfect chuuba to Gosling, because in the end she makes you realize that your love, in fact your very existence, never held the significance you imagined. Ame made the meme vivid and real

>>56245780
most of the "vocal" crowd telling everyone they don't like ame or they "stopped" watching her will go back to as far as 2020-2021 for flinging ammunition. These circles are not genuine

>>56246378
Like it or not, Hololive is an idol company and the part of the idol journey is watching your oshi grow and improve. Ame however decided to regress instead

I never minded "improve yourself," some fuckers needed to hear it. But I think she's bitter now and her streams are more tense than they used to be. And the dropping projects gets old.

>>56240111
I only remember the drugs from her debut

>>56246749
kwab
the next step is getting off this website and getting a job

>>56246292
Then you'd know it's equally if not more likely that she was autistically explaining why she might only collab with a couple holos at most. She used the exact same words to explain why she struggles to make friends in a later stream, doomers retards and antis just immediately assumed the worst possible scenario upon debut.

>>56247123
A lot of people dropped in late 2021 because that's when her change in attitude started. Pretty sure the Coco graduation was the trigger

>>56247307
>likely that she was autistically explaining
correct
for the amount of memes about this site's majority demographic being people with asperger's syndrome, you fuckers are comically bad at identifying one of your own.

>>56247123
>"stopped" watching her
>mention her older streams and not her newer ones
sorry, I love Ame but are you retarded? That's exactly what someone who stopped would mention

>>56240111
She's boring and SOVLless right now. Back then she used to be a creative gremlin and now she's just generic vtuber who plays games #4291. Her passion and spirit have been gone since Myth's first anniversary.

I liked that time when Gura kept killing her in Rust while she autistically screeched and tried to build a ramp.

>>56240111
Because she's boring?

>>56247451
I still remember JP bros on suicide watch at the work she put into her outfit reveal with the mini game... I want LA CREATIVIDAD back but I want it to come back organically for her and for her to feel reignited. I don't think it'll just naturally happen though.

>>56247123
>they are not real teamates because they go back to when Ame was at her peak to demonstrate how she changed
>>56245843
2020-21 had everything in my post and outer wilds, oblivion, charity stream, fish tank and all the minecraft kino. Yes there have been good streams since, we all loved Elden ring but she has absolutely changed and not for the better even before all the tiring homoshit.

>>56245780
>picrel
if i ever become that pathetic im just ending it all dude, holy shit
him convincing himself that a virtual entertainer is his girlfriend is not Ame's fault, thats literally all on him
considering the probability of this guy not being a zoomer but some 30 year old living stereotype basement dweller makes this even sadder to me

>>56247495
That was, unironically, The End. I don't blame Gura or her, I think they were both being a bit bratty and stupid during the Rust arc, but it really never got better after that

>>56240111
Ameggedon is too big to forget, sorry

>>56247495
That would get pretty fucking annoying to me as well to be honest, I would react the same way

>>56243788
what's finana got to do with this?

>>56240111
annoying cunt

>>56247428
no it's not, it's what grifting catalog faggots who held onto to each silver of cherrypicked drama, grievance, inconvenience, etc. would hold on to
>assuming these people actually watch streams
lol. lmao. You're not fit for the catalog, go be in the appreciation thread in peace

>>56248046
>she wont fuck me so shes le bad

>>56248078
holy fucking reddit....

Man. It's been a while since a good old le "improve yourself!" thread has been made. Glad to see /vt/ still holds eternal grudges and that Ame's words still haunt them to this day.

>>56248500
OP here, this is my second post in this thread kek

>>56248605
>>56240183
this is your second post tho

>>56240111
i like her though. i really haven't been in the holoEN community for most of 2022, to the point that i didn't even know tempus released, so i missed the whole male collabs arc, which basically means i have no idea why people hate kronii, ame and bae so much.

i don't wanna be shitty, but can i get a qrt on what they fucked up at so badly?

>>56248500
teamates are very sensitive

>>56248400
am i wrong?

>>56248515
>It's been a while since
you mean like 6 hours ago ? lol
rent free

>>56248500
this is how conversations work, anon. every time I see someone try to "pull" this argument it's never in the actual astroturfed samefaggy threads. Also I LOVE AME and I'm willing to talk about it.

>>56248673
yes, i never have once in my life wanted to fuck Ame, I actually didnt even like her from the start since it was so obvious she was just an annoying commiefornian

>>56248720
>annoying commiefornian
>literally indirectly named (((them))) on several occasions during streams
you are a dumb nigger
you are the blackest retard gorilla nigger i have ever seen

>>56247558
>>56247428
no one who's making coherent posts here is refuting the facts, even actual teamates want old Ame back here or there. Pretty sure what anon is referring to is the majority of posters that clearly have tunnel vision, mentioning "le homoshit" "random tidbit they don't like" or "generic yab that should've been forgotten" for their reasoning making OP right. Your posts are literally 2 in thousands, God only knows if anything will reignite her flames though and bring the attraction back
>56248515
scroll up dumb fuck

>>56248720
>so obvious she was just an annoying commiefornian
the absolute state of catalogniggers

>>56240183
And she called Gura a bitch, dead ass dropped it, not in a quirky grabass way

>>56240111
I don't hate her, but some chuubas I like for things other than their streams. Ame is for clips.

>>56248784
>>56248803
lol >>56248659
also tthe absolute state of teamates calling others catalogniggers when they are by far the biggest ones
go back to linking threads in your raid discord

>>56248515
Yup theres hundreds of vtubers. 1 faux pas and I will drop you. Watson has had several.

Didn't we just have a similar thread but with Sana instead of Ame? Also Ame bad etc etc.

>>56248801
>majority of posters that clearly have tunnel vision, mentioning "le homoshit" "random tidbit they don't like" or "generic yab that should've been forgotten" for their reasoning making OP right.
no, the majority of ame antis are pic related lookalikes who think they were "cucked" by a livestreamer talking to another man
as hard as it is for me to imagine this, these losers actually convince themselves that vtubers are their girlfriends

>>56248910
what a fucking unapologetic retard you are
also
>not your hugbox

>>56248878
>not in a quirky grabass way
it was exactly in a quirky grabass way, you just have autism tone blindness. They were both grumpier and sleep deprived that stream anyways. Chumbuds were on high defense when it happened screaming "AME WASN'T EVEN UPSET THEY'RE GOOD FRIENDS" because they knew gura was being a little brat, funny how the rrat changes

>>56249015
you sound incredibly called out

>>56248878
>And she called Gura a bitch
to be fair she was being a bit of a bitch

>>56249042
great deflection since you have been called out as absolutely no idea of what you are talking about and sperged out without providing anything
imagine calling ame of all people a commie
fucking hell, can't make this shit up
based retard

>>56249069
Gura played by Rust rules and Ame was clearly asking for space, both of them were equally 'culpable.' Ame should have put down the ramp autism and Gura probably shouldn't have shot her when Ame asked to be left alone. Ultimately the "fuck you" wasn't even a big deal anyway, it was completely normal and sisters here latched onto it because they are basement dwellers with rejection sensitive dysphoria

>>56249021
>>56249069
>>56249213
insane amounts of cope
Ame was being a massive cunt the entire Rust arc and refused to even try and have fun with other people and all she did the entire time is piss and moan
Ame killed the Rust arc for EN with her faggot drama and bitching, she should have just played solo if she wanted to be an annoying faggot the entire time. She refused to even participate in the end season photo-op and rage quit after her gay car jump, she was set back like 5 seconds of gameplay and had a fucking cry baby meltdown
Your oshi is a cunt and everyone knows it including all of you but you will never admit it just like how you will never call her out for lying about the homoshit and doing it only to make her fans upset on purpose
Enjoy your retarded contrarian commiefornian oshi because you will never have any self insight or reflection I guess

>>56248999
>I disagree with someone, so I'll call them a neckbeard incel and disregard their opinions

Go back nigger faggot.

>>56249289
>she was set back like 5 seconds of gameplay and had a fucking cry baby meltdown
shes just like me frfr

>>56249244
>ame enters a fight and shoots at Gura and her team
>is declared KOS
>doesnt use her push to talk and Gura cant even hear her
>spawns 15 feet away
"OMG GURA SHOULD HAVE LEFT HER ALONE SHE DESERVED TO BE CALLED A BITCH AND AME SAYING MULTIPLE TIMES AFTER IT HAPPENED THAT GURA IS A BITCH AND DOUBLING DOWN ON CALLING HER A FUCKING BITCH IS ACTUALLY BASED"
alright buddy whatever you say

>>56249289
>tripling down
average catalognigger brainrot
what a based retard you are its honestly inspiring

>>56249332
>reddit spacing
also, im not wrong, am i? roru
ive seen the poorly disguised incel theads where you fuckers ADMIT to being neckbeard incel "oji-sans"

>>56249415
I didn't say any of that nigger learn to read

>>56249415
I understand that the point youre trying to make here is that being an asshole griefer is the point of Rust, but we are talking about a branch of an idol agency here. They should be nice to each other.

>>56249435
Different anon, and its not reddit spacing, I'm just a writefag.

>6 additional posters
>conversation rapidly quickens
Calvary arrived, where'd you fucks come from?

>>56249427
>>56249452
>>56249508
NOOOOO AME NEVER DOES ANYTHING WRONG HER BEING AN ANNOYING CUNT IS ACTUALLY BASED!!!!

>>56249528
>its not reddit spacing, I'm just a writefag.
naruhodone, all is forgiven

>>56249533
>the Ame raid discord gets mentioned
>ips start to skyrocket with ame defense force
>happens literally every single time
damn i wonder where they could be from

>>56249540
holy shit you're legitimately making up a retard to fight with in your own mind when this thread is filled with legitimate retards you could fight with. Nobody said Ame is a blameless angel, not a single reply.

>>56249540
>picrel
nigga just depict us as a sojyak at that point lmfao
>NOOOOO AME NEVER DOES ANYTHING WRONG HER BEING AN ANNOYING CUNT IS ACTUALLY BASED!!!!
as an annoying cunt myself, i like her exactly for this reason, she doesnt filter herself for she is autistic and cant read the room, just like me

>>56249332
>>I disagree with someone, so I'll call them a nigger faggot and disregard their opinions
Go back neckbeard incel.

>>56249669
kek

>>56249600
I'm pretty sure those uptight groomed niggers would've outlawed any mention of /here/ by now since the namefag mishaps of 2021. unless a different discord I don't know about was formed

teamates really are just free (you)s and easy lolcows
idk why people still bait with Gura

amelia watson is... le bad!!

>>56247428
Why do they keep coming back to these threads then?

>>56249694
the Ame fan discord used to have a invite only 4chan channel until someone leaked the entire thing because they were using it to raid threads so now they just have their own Teamate raid discord

>>56249703
real and true

>>56240111
I don't like her voice or her model. I think all of Nabi's children look horrible and Ame's voice makes my ears bleed, it would be a miracle to not hate her.

Ame is not even my oshi but she is one of the nicest EN. I have her membership and she is constantly posting to her fans multiple times a week, keeping them up to date with posts and pictures of the things she does. It's obvious she thinks about her fans often. Like how she drew some gators on the pizza tower stream.
Calling what's possibly the most altruistic Holo a cunt is the weirdest angle I've ever seen.

>>56249703
They should take one for the team and be the punching bag for HoloEN so the new fanbases can take it easy.

>>56249834
>They should take one for the team and be the punching bag for HoloEN
that role is already taken up by US, anon

>>56249834
The main issue is that Teamates have done 99% of the punching since the start of EN at least in terms of hololive fanbases
they will never be the punching bags because they are basically the Pippa fans of Hololive

>>56249703
these have always definitely been global poster teamates (who are a subhuman variant). the appreciation thread would not give a single fuck
>>56249773
proof? at work rn and cannot be bothered going through archives

>>56249879
Yeah but your bones needs some rest so tag in those teammates so they can take a bump.

>>56249244
>>56249415
>>56249289
>Season is ending and everyone is just taking photos
>Ame wants to be a part of it by building a silly ramp and jumping off into the coast near the crowd
>Gura comes up to Ame who was minding her business and kills her very clearly seeing her nametag despite Ame saying to just leave her alone
>Blantly lies about it after the fact that she thought Ame was Mori when she could clearly see a gigantic nametag on her screen
>Ame finishes of her ramp after callnig gura to fuck off and everyone laughs at her silly spectacle like she wanted to
She should have call her a lying cunt instead

>>56249879
Has there been much cuckbeat slander recently that I've missed? Seems like Calli's just been doing her own thing going under the radar.

>>56240805
>publicly shaming and laughing at retards in chat is bad

>>56249929
>proof
ill be honest im way too fucking lazy to go find it but its been posted a handful of times
there was one time they raided /ggg/ and were posting their own discord mod chats with people while namefagging people while trying to just cause drama

>>56242932
never, that's part of my DNA

>>56240111
I don't dislike her tho

>>56249600
>n-no why is everyone not shitting on this person I make daily anti thread off
g-go back to your discord
Grade A tier projection right there hope you can get the game you want with those gift cards

>>56249703

>>56240111
Non meme answer is that she started phoning it in.
Year 1-2 ame was pretty good, then she just stopped caring about making good content.
Stopped innovating.
Always dropping every project she starts.

So many of the girls and fans love what ame did in the past, but if you judge her by what she does now, she just feels like a worker who clocks in and clocks out.

Whether you dislike ame is whether or not you you liked who she used to be.
She practically speedran a burnt out content creator.

>>56250089
is this post supposed to be 100% ironic?
projecting me as OP and also telling me to go back to a raid discord while also deflecting about the Teamate raid discord while also crying about projection?

>>56250215
What games are you thinking of getting ? I am looking to play some new games myself, sadly I have to buy them with money

>>56243586
I agree.

>>56240236
Me neither, also share more rare ames, I only have rare guras

>>56249835
Anon, she does not get hate because she not nice, she gets hate because she's too nice.
All these bait threads are entirely due to her not throwing tempus under the bus.
If people just didn't like her, and many don't, there wouldn't be a need to make and post in these threads.
This hate is ideological.

>>56250287
Gonna pick up baldur's gate 3 in a few days once i finish up playing a couple other games, currently beating Asscreed Black flag again because pirates are cool

>>56240111
Most people stopped watching Ame because of a long drawn out slog of small yabs and discontent. Her anger issues towards chat, even when its genuinely her fault. 90% of her member posts being miserable, long winded excuses to why shes failing all her goals, in hololive or her general life. Showing up late and phoning it in a lot in the second year. Her creatividad content boiling down to her willingness to show off a janky novel gimmick that gets boring after two showings. Asking her community to pitch in with dream journals and Christmas art, only to show very little of it off, or discuss it in any meaningful way, leaving teamates feeling disappointed and unsatisfied. It just takes a toll after awhile.
Then the crown jewel, she had the gall to tell people who where politely asking what role the new males would have in her future content, to spend their time improving themselves, a insult thrown in her glass house, that also blindly forgets all the supas she got over the years about her inspiring her viewers to take up art or singing or unity work. She has been a total letdown for most of her career at hololive.

>>56240183
t. didn't improve

>>56250396
reinstall deus ex

>>56247307
It sounds like that until she specifically says the "respect those around me" part.

>>56250492
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kovReXR5sQU

>>56250433
i feel like ame was cursed ever since she wasn't allowed to use holmies

In a fit of rage, she called my oshi a bitch.

Glad they buried the hatchet though.

>>56240111
more like I don't remember why I liked her

>>56250567
100% deserved.
Your oshi needs to have some self-awareness correction

>>56248784
>friendly reminder that ame says the gamer word

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKyMHyg3-_k

>>56250567
Your oshi literally gets wet by the thought of getting called a bitch by her though

>>56250123
Yep, Watson Weekly is the prime example of this - itself a duller version of Ame in the AM. It's been 10 weeks and just 4 episodes, when this is arguably the most exciting time in EN in months.

I never really watched Watson outside of her first few streams but I decided to give her New Vegas ones a try. Was pretty disappointing to watch.

>>56240522
>>56241334
>>56241774
>>56242043
>>56243223
>>56245780
>>56246750
>>56247123
>>56247451
>>56248801
>>56249703
>>56250433
/thread

>>56250691
It being the most exciting time in EN in months is part of the reason there are so few episodes

>>56240183
NGMI
She said the truth anon.

At this point people seething over improve yourself just out themselves as threadshitting retards. Same thing with the Fauna friend thing. Anyone that unironically leaves over such a small thing was never a fan, and was either leaving for other reasons already or never cared in the first place. Especially when neither were antagonistic and you have to basically have autism to interpret it that way.

>>56248500
Yeah, teacucks are second to Clockies as groveling, boot-fed losers

Bet you good money Ame or some seething tea-fuck or cover loser made this thread to fan flames

>>56240236
Based

I don't watch Ame and have never watched a full vod.
The only discussion that I see about her are formers fans still whining about her pissing them off and current fans whining that being pissed off isn't a reasonable excuse to hate someone.
I can thus conclude that Ame is bad because she cultivated a fanbase of complete faggots

I improved myself to the point that I considered myself worthy of having a superior oshi.

>>56245780
Peak mindbroken lmao. I've never seen a more perfect example. I hope I never become a person like this

>>56251295
I'm proud of you, anon.

>>56251041
Ame literally said the exact same thing almost word for word in her first valentines stream and nobody cared.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ww8HYMWdA3E&t=1482s
This is why I cannot take those posts you mention seriously.

>>56249332
He’s right

>>56251237
This is the way.

>>56251237
Were vtuber fans, were all probably faggots

>>56243788
Everyone but Gura has one

>>56251237
>former fans
you are the most retarded person on this site if you think any of them were ever fans

>>56250556
I blame Omega for that. Sherlock Holmes is public domain.

>>56240111
While I do dislike Ame, I don't hate her. I only ever watched her for like a few months. In the beginning, she was kinda fun, and I remember watching her streams with Gura a lot. I did catch some of her early solo streams when she was live post-debut. Her streams were there for when Gura wasn't streaming or I didn't feel like I wanted to watch Gura play a boring game. Then I stopped watching Ame and just watched Ame clips and then I just stopped watching her clips as well. In all honesty, she just got really fucking boring for me. All of Myth got boring. Then, Council came around and rinse and repeat, and then HoloEn got boring and I just unsubscribed to all their main channels. Well, except for mumei, and fauna. I don't watch streams anymore and just watch Holojp, fauna, and Mumei clips + the main Holojp channel videos. Even that isn't regular, just when I feel like watching cute girls being cute. I've not seen an Ame clip since Rust. I don't hate Ame, I'm just bored, and shitposting about how much of a cunt Ame was/is is more fun than watching boring streams. To sum it up, I dislike her because she doesn't make me laugh anymore. Ironically, she didn't improve herself and vtubers became boring. That's probably the only reason anyone needs to dislike a vtuber.

>>56252571 (me)
Get fucked nerds. While you were arguing I just became the 100th poster in this thread. So long losers, I'm off to have real sex.

>>56240499
That was a really early stream in her Holo career, too. That bitch very quickly forgot who pulled her out of the fucking trailer park and who actually made her rich.

>>56252873
yagoo?

>>56240111
I liked her for about 6 months, then she became just another streamer. She hasn't done anything to stand out in at least 2 years.

>>56252893
>>56240499
>someone sced her
>that's what I did
read between the lines anon.

>>56252998
should she get down on her knees everytime you throw money at her? i know it's inconceivable for someone of your complexion, but people have dignity

>>56240111
I don't care about Millie tho

>>56251085
teacucks are all tranny redditors so it wouldn't be out of place for them to do it

>>56240183
fpbp
She also had a major role in ruining Kronii's career, since she was the one who organized the Worms collab, followed by a HolostarJP Garlic Phone collab she clearly did out of spite by the backlash of the first collab.

Bump

She stopped being creativdad. Looks like she's been in a long-drawn writers block for a while to try to innovate.

>>56240111
>You probably do not even remember why you dislike her
Told her core audience to fuck off, is a spiteful contrarian, participated in Omega's traitorous attempt to turn Holo EN into Nijisanji EN, and worst of all, dumb bitch can't stop eating bread. I remember.

>>56253611
Maybe she should take a month or two off.

>>56240111
I never dislike her. I took her advise and went outside touching grass. I can no longer catch her streams because I'm too busy touching grass.

>>56251371
Ame has been preaching self improvement the whole time she has been in holo but If you cannot see the difference in context and tone between that moment and the "improve yourself if you don't want to watch me collab with holostars" you are retarded.
https://www.youtube.com/live/FJ0CDB8qfzI?feature=share&t=1841
Just listen to the whiny child voice she puts on to mock the whole position before she even gets around to the improve yourself bit.

Whether you think people had the right to ask her questions about collabing with tempus or not, there is absolutely no comparing those two moments or any of the previous "improve yourselves" moments to that one. All the other ones were inspiring and positive meant to build people up and motivate them. That one was mocking, meant to imply that if you are the type that has a problem with her upcoming collabs there is something wrong with you that needs improving.

You can agree with that position and think those people needed to be told that, but I am sick of people saying
>she has always talked about self improvement it's literally the same thing

>>56240111
she just needs to improve herself and become entertaining

>>56248878
And she called her a bitch again in the Paranormal Cleanup collab, lmao

>>56252873
how much have you superchatted ame, anon?

>>56252571
that's honestly kind of sad

She stagnated because nobody has challenged her yet. Ame at her best is the peak of vtubing, nobody can touch her highest highs

>>56253860
>Ame has been preaching self improvement the whole time she has been in holo
Which is hypocritical as fuck considering she seems completely uninterested in making any attempt to improve herself. The bread thing is a funny meme but it's also symptomatic a real behavioral problem. A woman who willfully keeps eating food she's severely allergic to has no right to lecture others about self-improvement.

>>56254180
>Ame at her best is the peak of vtubing, nobody can touch her highest highs
Citation needed.

>>56253860
>Muh tone
>Muh context
It's literally the same thing, if you watched her you would understand "Ah it's the usual thing, she is scared that she might have cultivated a bunch of too dependent schizos and she wants them to have their own purpose". It's not something that she never said that you would have a hard time to understand what she is getting at.

>Just listen to the whiny child voice she puts on to mock the whole position
At least pretend you watched her at some point jesus.

>>56240111
She told Big Fish to "fuck off" in Rust, leading to Gura's mental health decline, recidivism into alcoholism, and subsequent lengthy hiatus.

>>56253113
>Ame should kneel down everytime she gets a superchat.
>Brown/black people don't understand dignity.
Yeah....that's horrible. But, imagine if she really did that though. Not like for real or anything. I mean, I wouldn't be against such a thing. It's not a bad idea if you really think about it. It might improve her content. Nah, just joking. Unless? If she really wants to improve I wouldn't be opposed. Maybe, she should do a stream as a joke. It can't be too bad. It might be hard on the knees though. Going up and down, up and down, up and down. Maybe she should just do a kneeling stream, for fun. Yeah, for fun. Remember, when Ame ate those noodles on stream? Good times. She should probably also try eating some spicy noodles again while doing this. It might bring back some of the old fans. Yeah....that would be..something. Can you imagine?

>>56254506
>Ignore the context
>Ignore the tone
Wow it's literally the same thing!
You are so fucking retarded my man. How can you listen to the clip you linked side by side with the one I did and say that?
>At least pretend you watched her at some point jesus.
Picrel. Just because she does that fucking voice all the time doesn't mean it isn't usually in the context of chat whining about something and her poking fun at it, the problem was that if you look at the maro on her screen at the time it was a perfectly reasonable question to ask and mocking it like that was retarded, especially because she answered the same question a hundred times better and more diplomatically earlier in the stream.

As you can see It wasn't a big enough deal for me to drop her over it, and I still like her. But It was not some wholesome Ame moment looking out for the teamates it was her preemptively lashing out because she KNEW some people were not going to like it.

>>56255215
omg sister i unsubbed the second she told me to improve

>>56240111
Easy way out: >>56240183 and her Altare thing

Hard way out: she stopped being fun and her streams just devolved. Her creativity fizzled away, and her gaming was stale. Not someone who I felt was getting better with time, but worse. 2022 was her breaking point, and it showed in many ways. Her attitude is her dealbreaker, just like Mori.

>>56255313
10 minutes ago
amePotatoame YYYame UUUame MMM
glad you're feeling better, whatcha been reading?
excited for Studio PC!

I tune in, I get bored, I leave.

>>56250433
She was great for years 1-2. I swear she was one of the better members. Nothing ever against Ame, but then you just see her losing steam. I feel like her end started to come in January 2022 after her birthday stream. Maybe it wasn't just me, but her motivation just died. Ame to me is what happens when you stopped being the best you, and settle on mediocrity. I know Gura, Ina, Mori and Kiara don't do that. Ame did. And the worst place to be is to be mediocre. Vtubing history can remember all the fun stuff she did in 2020 and 2021, but they will not be as kind to her for 2022 onwards.

>>56252938
>>56253611
>>56255365
>>56256061
So, how do we save her and revive 2020-21 Ame?

>>56256453
Bankrupt her.

What the fuck is wrong with teakeks? Were the goslings actually sincere this whole time?

>>56240111
i dont dislike her really , i dont watch her because i think shes boring

>>56256453
Stop paying her to coast.

>>56240183
fpbp and /thread

>>56257100
Not everyone is an irony-poisoned zoomer like you. Yes, when I say something I generally mean it.

>>56258454
Doesn't she still turn off SCs all the time? You would have to stop buying merch as well

>>56241334
telling peeps to improve themselves wasn't her sin. Tt was doing that after criticizing teamates who didn't want homo collabs and calling them incels

>>56259230
>criticizing teamates who didn't want homo collabs and calling them incels
this literally never happened

I notice there are two groups:
-People who dropped Ame because of improve yourself and homocollabs

-People who dropped Ame due to a decline in stream quality and change of attitude

>>56253279
>She also had a major role in ruining Kronii's career

forever based

>>56240499
>>56241312
>>56240805
>>56241774
>>56249988
>acts like a complete narcisistic 3DPD roastie
Shouldn't you be watching a twitch thot for this kind of roastie behavior? I thought vtubing was supposed to be different. I guess this is why Ame declined in popularity. Might as well some other roastie act like a roastie on stream.

>>56259603
nah thats cringe

>>56240111
I don't event think about her enough to dislike her

>>56240111
I don't remember her, period.

>>56240111
Did Arsene Lupin have any sidekicks or friends in the story? I feel like, if you’re going to have a vtuber alluding to Sherlock Holmes, and given this IS a japanese company that actually knows about the guy, there should be an Arsene Lupin-alluding vtuber.

>>56240111
Your premise is flawed, I like Ame quite a bit.

>>56259882
Spade Echo...

>>56241912
KINO

>>56258915
I don't know, I haven't watched her since early 2021. Cover needs to stop paying her to be lazy too. However it's done she should be sent back to 2view hell on Twitch.

>>56240111
I just don't like her demeanor

>>56240111
I don't really care about her to be honest.

>>56263097
you cared enough to both open this thread and post in it

>>56240111
>why she isn't talked about as much on the board
Going to sound like a broken record, but mentioning tempus at the time she did. Contrary to the current state of the board, /vt/ and its predecessor /jp/ wasnt always as hostile to males, they just ignored them for the most part. Nijien's Luxiem branch got a few bait threads, but most anons chalked it up to being niji and didn't really care. The announcement of a male vtuber branch for Hololive english changed everything, mostly because anons never once thought they'd come to EN.The meltdown was huge, and Tempus's announcement was basically the 2016 /pol/ of /vt/, and Ame being quick to interact,collab, and show support during all this set off the her mostly parasocial fanbase /here/.

TL;DR Ame was the first vtuber alot of EN tourist unicorns followed, and how she handled tempus turned almost all of them away.

>>56263337
you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about like literally everything you said there is wrong

>>56249540
> NOOOOO AME NEVER DOES ANYTHING WRONG HER BEING AN ANNOYING CUNT IS ACTUALLY BASED!!!!
Yes

>>56263754
What was wrong? Seems right to me

She told me to improve myself when all I did was express how I disliked her collabing with males that are destroying the core essence of hololive. I still hate her, all I did was try to set her to the correct path but no she had to follow the wigger and step out of line. I'm glad her numbers have been low ever since, she deserved it.

>>56263337
We know JP can handle the collabs. Just look at Roberu. We KNOW EN CANNOT. At all.

>>56249835
>>56249978
>>56249600
>>56249743
>>56250361
>>56250480
>>56251041
>>56258568
>>56264091
Ame's meltdowns are really unfunny and just give off triggered Karen vibes. It's not lik when Marine's chat is trolling her and gives a funny reaction. One guy tells Ame to relax/take it easy and she flies off the handle raging like a Karen. Ame is just a roastie in vtuber form. GACHIKOI DO NOT WANT ROASTIES AS THEIR OSHI.

Vtubers are a breath of fresh air from roasties, so Ame behaving one like one is what drove most of her fans anyway. She acts no different from twitch whores. She should watch Marine if she wants to be a good chuuba. Able to have a sassy attitude while not being a grouchy Karen.

>>56249979
Because there isn't many of them left.

>>56260620
>reduce her salary
>threaten graduation
So Nijisanji then?

>>56263754
He's close but Gura fills the "unicorn" bill better.

>>56265264
correct post

>>56245780
Fuck you fag

>>56265264
Way to out yourself as a woman or a flaming faggot

"improve youself" is such a double edged sword

>>56265864
Reminder that Cover wrapped up Coco in red tape and threw her into the isolation closet

>>56268437
also not a new ip

>>56268472
Reminder they did that so Chinese didn't murder Coco.

>>56268612
Zhangchama, her roommate was in Taiwan recently, and she didn't even get diarrhea. All the 'murderous chinks' were like five unemployed wumaos keeping up their vatnik supported spambots running, plus the snake Artia stirring up shit early on before her entire branch got atomized and memoryholed.

>>56243437
I'm just saying, if Gura did this to me, I really don't know how I would cope with it.

>ITT: People who have never watched an Ame stream try to larp as Ame viewers

I don’t care about her at all but I hate her pathetic manchild fanbase

>>56253932
Timestamp?

>>56245818
Holy cringe

>>56240111
You what? You are ri- >>56240183 ACK!

>>56263754
Well seeing that one JP site saying Ame was GFE, I believe it.
>>56266518
The funny thing there is this JP site explaining what GFE experience is, but they claim Ame is GFE, this leads me to believe Ame was recognized as GFE in the past so there are bound to be unicorns

>>56240111
Ame is fine on collabs, but when she is alone she behaves like a raging bitch.

>>56265264
the roastie attitude could be the root cause of her downfall, yes. because why watch an anime girl if she's just gonna act exactly like a 3dpd bitch

>skip tutorial
>proceed to waste the next 2 hours

>>56280681
you were in this thread for al least more than an hour, is there a reason you waited so long to reply?

>>56240111
contempt

attitude and teamates

>>56259641
>I thought vtubing was supposed to be different
Lmao

>>56245289
literally this, also a reason why she reclined like crazy once myth got actual competition in council and advent

>>56240111
I do, and it's not because of males or anything like that. Back in the day she was brimming with creativity and enthusiasm to do something interesting, nowadays she seems to have completely check out. I'm still convinced she will be the next to graduate, just a matter of time for her to decide she is done. I dislike her because she gave up.

>>56263161
Yeah because dumb bait threads trigger the shit out of me and I fall for every single one of them.

In the end I didn't mean it as a slight against her. I don't really watch her but I don't mind her either. Just not my cuppa.

>>56269700
I was advocating for why she didn't get murdered in those days. I've stopped caring for coco/kson since her graduation. Now leave.

>>56240111
>own the fans arc
Same reason for all the ens I dislike

>>56284214
>I'm still convinced she will be the next to graduate
this time for sure sister
rumao

>>56240111
I probably don't but whatever she did was enough to make my brain subconsciously avoid watching or hearing her whenever she pops up out of pure reflex

>>56284214
She has talked about how she enjoys behind the scenes work more than streaming. Perhaps she'll take more of a managerial position, but I'm not sure if she'd have the work ethic for it