/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

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>>56235040
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

Dogs want to fuck cats

yab they want to eat cats

Fuwamoco is the all ages version of Asacoco 1.0

re: FWMC spam
>>56234376 (You)
Xuxa?

>>56234501
That's what the dogs remind me of.
Sexy kids show. Insipid.
Like what you want, but I will always take their spam and success as Brazilian

Wish i was fwmc cats

>fuwamoco has almost twice the views of the other channels
perfectly balanced

>FUWAMOCO right now

Cat bros we won

[Sad News] The twns are in love with cats!
>KORONE, HIDE OKAYU!

They said that they eat kittens before

>>56235129
Mogu okayu

GRIM

>we love pussy
nahone~

...

>HOLOLIVE BOARD
>HOLOLIVE THREAD

Why would Maimoto even leave? The dude's like one of the pillars of Nijisanji if he does that's all on Niji management for failing him either way because I keep thinking a lot of livers respect him. It'd be another Mayuzumi holy shit.

If they love cats so much, why don't they own one? Allergies?

>>56234877
>>56234909
Doesn't she have original ideas? And would she even recognize the references reddit would make?

>>56234877
>terrible idea reddit will get flooded with homobegging memes even more than before
kek, I dread to imagine the level of shitposting if it happens

>>56234877
>>56234909
It will be nuclear if Kiara explicitly says no males. But she may state Hololive girls only. It has the same meaning but it is less impactful.

https://twitter.com/maimoto_k/status/1691828456122978307
https://twitter.com/maimoto_k/status/1691828456122978307
https://twitter.com/maimoto_k/status/1691828456122978307

It's over...

>>56235193
JP7 will have a new feline

>>56235233
Niji fans are fans of the company not their organs so graduating organs left and right doesnt impact them financially

rate the dogs
>left-to-right
>3/10
>tits/10
>sex/10

Why does every holo a cat lover? Do we have any dogfags?

WILL MAIMOTO GRADUATE? LET'S POAL MY NIGGERS!
https://poal.me/1xy76i
https://poal.me/1xy76i
https://poal.me/1xy76i

Mysta 30k doko?

>>56235255
nah, it's easy. just say "hololive only" and watch the beggars' nerve pop ruru

>>56235193
lol

>>56235258
When she wanted to do the news show it was gonna be girls only but then Ame suddenly decided she wanted to do the news show again only to drop it after 3 streams.

>>56235141
>Like what you want, but I will always take their spam and success as Brazilian
Mate, Xuxa in the 80s was nothing like that. Xuxa was 100% for kids, paquitas and chiquitas and pituchas were wholesome as fuck.

Are you confusing them with Angelica / Mara Maravilha and down low coombait disguised as kid shows?

>>56235277
Everything is fine

BAU BAU PUSSIES

>>56235277
Maimoto gold?

I wonder if the sisters will try to dissuade Kiara from choosing memes

Hopefully Kiara revive reddit meme review.

THE DOGGO NUMBERS ARE FUCKING GRIM AND THE FAGGOT THAT SAID THEY SHOULD BE INCLINCING SHOULD ROPE HIMSELF.

BELO JOGO JANNIES!

>>56235382
Yeah she needs to debuff herself more

FWMC liking cats more than dogs ruined the kayfabe for me, dropped

>>56235277
From 8/18 0:00 (8/17 24:00)
We would like to inform you about our future activities.
Thank you very much.
In addition, clipping etc. will be prohibited for this distribution.
Important notice regarding future activities [Nijisanji/Keisuke Maimoto]

>>56235277
Solid graduation for a solid liver

>>>56235277
>>56235287
Dude shut the fuck up I'm not in the mood. Maimoto's possible and untimely departure is massive for the whole industry.

https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1691815039202722046

[Vacation News] Some nigger went to vacations in Scotland or something?

nenechi cameo on fwmc morning

>>56235382
>meme review
>in EUhour
GRIIMMMMMMMMMMMM

>>56235421
so true sister! #cut4hex

>>56235277
NIJISANJI IN THE GRAVE TONIGHT
EVERYBODY JUST HAVE A GOOD TIME

I guess they plan to expand the morning show little by little.

>>56235321
Bot power already spend today

>>56235213
EUfag already abandoned them huh.

Is there a reason FWMC morning never shows up on Vstats daily?
Not in previous day, not in the current day
Even though it shows up in currently streaming and their history

>>56235411
A lot of Niji stuff gets pruned.

>>56235382
>Austrian in charge of a humour stream
this will definitely go well

>>56235277
It's over

>>56235449
who?

>>56235277
It's bijouover

>>56235233
Ha. All the nijishills kept saying Mayuzumi leaving wouldn't matter, that it was a nothingburger.
Fast forward a year and all their tourneys are down in numbers and people are demoralized across Nijisanji. If Miamoto does call it quits completely, it will be D I R E for the future of any non-corpo events since it would indicate that the situation on the back end is so rotten that they're doomed in the long-term without a Nijisanji Resistance 2.0.

Holospy here, some of you are suspicious of me on how I get my sources. Don't worry, I'm hidden real deep inside sister's territory for years already since I was determined to join every anti discord that pops out back then.

>>56235369
Nahh. Shion 5th Anniversary is tomorrow

>>56235449
>massive for the whole industry
yeahh...... I don't think he's THAT big

>>56235482
The site sucks.

[Sad News] The twins are scared of loud sounds like thunderstorms, Ollie streams and F1 races!

>>56235258
i might give it a chance if she did state hologirls only
reddit already shit enough, can't imagine people spam homoshit just thinking they cool owning the incels

>>56235405
>the whole industry
nijisanji is not the whole industry
old things die
new things take their place
it is just how the world works
who genuinely misses Kizuna Ai

>>56235277
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHMAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHMAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHMAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>56235486
Niji interns working hard!

>>56235369
Doubt.
If he starts early he's going against Shion 3D live
If he starts on time or late he's going against Salome 3D debut.

>>56235482
because it starts minutes from midnight, and vststas stops updating after midnight for the big number (still does for the small one below)

Dead game status

>>56235520
>we are in love hotel
rumao cucksanji..

>>56235449
maimoto dont even collab a lot outside of nijisanji, the fuck are you talking about holobrony. its not 2019 anymore

>>56235548
BEGONE, FALSE PROPHET!

>>56235475
Kiara overlap

>>56235449
>whole industry
Not really. Big loss for Niji though.

>>56235449
Sorry man, but that's how Nu-nijifans see it.
>Graduation? SEE YA, PUNK, YOU DON'T MATTER!

>>56235548
if it's real, good job

>>56235547
I'm still mad at management over failing Mayu. I'll be even more mad if they've failed Maimoto. Besides Mito, Kuzuha, and possibly Lize or Toya, he's arguably their most notable pillar and it'd be a very very sad day for every liver with how much people respect Maimoto. It's Mayuzumi all over again.

>>56235570
I want to throw firecrackers at mococo

>>56235486
>Bait thread 299 on Shiorin or FWMC stays up
>Thread 1 on Plappa or Niji pruned

hmmm

>>56235351
Your remember the name of her straight shota movie?

>>56235548
nice try, judas

>>56235277
Blood Sacrifice for
THIS
Hahahaha

>>56235456
>>56235503
>>56235414
Seethe more this will be a very successful program for kiara. I can already see 20k-30k ccv stream for her.

>>56235411
Why would they delete that stupid graph but not the more damaging holo baits?

>>56235547
Niji resistance wouldn’t really work these days anyways, they made sure that they were bloated enough to the point where it wouldn’t be as effective.
They could always just butter up the ones who really do matter like Kuzuha anyways (4% cut)

>>56235213
No wonder Fuwamoco are pandering to JP. LOOK AT THIS MESS.

>>56235451
okay, i suck at noticing perspectives.
is that a shot from up close or far away?

>>56235559
For Nijisanji it's losing someone who may be considered the backbone of the remaining good fabric. God damn it I don't wanna think about it.

>>56235611
when is it?

>>56235547
literally no one but this thread cares about numbers like that, not even anycolor does, even more for tournaments they dont fund. those tournaments being able to happen by a lot of different members and were succcessful to do so.

>the nips have already gotten bored of FWMC

>>56235697
nijijanny power-trip that's why

>>56235382
>Haachama wants to do meme review
>Kiara swoops in and self inserts herself in
>Meme review dies
Yeah no.

Early Holo EN numbers

>>56235701
Imagine FWMC morning JP version

>>56235653
This, unfortunately, appears to have happened completely by design. By ACCELERATING this hard, they dilute any real power the talents have, and so they can just tell the old guard that doesn't like how things are to take a hike.
There will NOT be a Resistance 2.0, you'll take the boot to the face from management and LIKE it.

I feel like bijou/fuwamoco would do good just playing plantvszombies, bejeweled, feeding frenzy etc for weekly games

>>56235715
Seals are famously the size of thumbs

>>56235611
more alive than skullgirls i think

>>56235687
I am sorry for offending you KFP
I am sure Kiara's Meme review will be successful

>>56235653
>>56235233
Stop larping as a nijifag already

>>56235726
right right you got it right there
>For Nijisanji

>>56235611
shouldn't have added the stars

>>56235787
i thought that was a silver slug or something

>>56235731
>No one cares about long-term trends
Please stop making me depressed, even if I know it's the truth.

>>56235726
why are you acting like you care so much about this shit?

>>56235570
>loud sounds
>F1 races

anon-chama...

>>56235736
they are sleeping right now since the holiday is Obon

>>56235736
Last day of obon faggot

>extra special viewers = whales
... i won't ever get a shout out

>>56235784
I don't like it either. I wouldn't be surprised if Rikiichi is next.

>>56235784
there cant be no resistance when the nijifags all keep on bootlicking management instead of caring about their organs

Is this guy crying about maimoto that oboretai faggot?

BAU BAU

>>56235449
>is massive for the whole industry.
Retard King can just graduate too tomorrow and it still mean 0 shit for any other corpo beside Nijisanji

>>56235969
Just superchat bro.

>>56235925
More like the bar is so high for the twins, when 13.3k is actually considered bad.

Mococo deserves her own channel

Unironically ENkeks deserved to be NTRed. A 13k stream. That's my next week's prediction.

>>56235784
You'll take the food stamps and you will RIKE it

>>56235548
Based. Make sure you archive all the garbage, and when time is ripe and just right, you unleash it into the world for all to see.

>>56235783
That's a 14k-15k ccv stream like mio or koyori.

Kiara raid

>>56235701
A morning stream should be at 6am pst instead of 8am. At 8am people are either already driving or at work while est are absolutely at work.

FAILED RAID TO CHIMKIN
BASED NEAL

incoming

>>56235715
Nigger, unless there are seals as small as ants that’s clearly a shot from far away

>>56235449
no one except your bots care about your liver nijibrony

>ruffians should be used to showing up here after fuwamoco morning
Kiara is enjoying this, isn't she?

>>56235277
I don't understand how is this more indicative of anything that the stream frame itself isn't already? Or am I not getting something?

>>56236024
It's hot when JPbros funnel them with 20k ccv

>>56235687
> 22k with all of advent + debut buff on holotalk
> 30k on meme review
community must make some very good memes

Stay on Kiara's stream, please

>”oh no Anycolor so black every liver must hate it”
Reality ……….

>>56236108
Lol probably

Massive HoloID overlap!

>>56235910
Because I've spent 5 years watching Nijisanji and the thought of losing someone who's one of the pillars like Mayuzumi is massive if not even more big of a deal? For fuck's sake no one, not even Niji fans put the livers first like I do. It's seriously infuriating being the damn minority nowadays.

Why do you even care about a niji graduating if its not your oshi. they have 200 members, one leave, more join, it was built to be like that, just like a business

Raid kiara pls. Raid kiara pls.

>>56235277
i doubt the announcement is graduation
unless niji really try to shoot themself

kek, Kiara reaction to the raid was priceless
>ruffians should get used to be redirected to my stream

>>56235520
they are next

>kouhai have nearly 3 time more viewers
why did Kiara FAIL so hard?

>>56236168
The redirect for mine got stuck

>>56236009
It a empty slot after all if this is a usual day,we have to wait for Friday to confirm whether it recline or bad timing.

A RARE OCCURENCE!

>>56236138
true, in reality Riku even slept with a few of them

>>56236108
Kiara is a SLUT for ANY sort of acknowledgement that she exists.
That's why <REDACTED> is still a thing, and why she essentially spread her legs for the nijigirls to kneel to her.

>>56235798
They need to add a homo as playable chara so they can go head to head with skullgirls in dead game derby

>>56236180
Ewwww

>>56236157
Ok oboretai

>>56236168
Neal botched mine.

>>56236201
Do you have autoplay off?

>>56236176
It's probably a hiatus if anything, but the comments from JP fans worries me still.

>>56236192
do you really want to ask this question anon? are you a masochist?

>>56235736
I think giving JP their own stream might hurt their English stream numbers. JP bro might just say to themselves "I will wait for the next JP stream" instead of being forced to just pick up what they can from English stream

>checking the numbers for what I missed while sleeping
>JP talking stream gets 23k views
Jesus Christ, that never even happened with the other girls who tried it in EN (with the exception of like, Mori in debut period)

>kiara also wants a naked dogeza from nerissa

>>56236180
Kiara must love the twins.

>>56236210
AAAAEEEEEEEH

>>56236243
I haven't had issues with other raids even with autoplay off

>>56236192
Thread would be archived before I finish listing why

>>56236180
this is true?

>>56236138
some 3view sucking up, nice

>>56236124
I belib in Kiara. She's talented enough and charismatic enough to get those kind of numbers.

>>56236210
THE LENS IS FOCUSING!!!!!!

>>56236176
anon if maimoto wants to graduate, he will graduate. Nijisanji can try to stop and negotiate some things but in the end the will of the member prevails. hes in there for what, 5 years? how many years do we expect those vtubers to be in these agencies?

>>56235382
>Reddit meme review in 2023
Oh no no no homobeggar it's our time

>>56236180
Wonder if they would redirect to JP once the collab ban is over.

>only 2k transferred
>getting lower
good job with the fast exit rumao

>>56236202
My point is simply: If the twins are doing bad, then all of Advent is doing bad. Not sure what people think of this honestly speaking: >>56235780

>>56236333
>Enter Kiara's free will

>>56236235
>Oboretai
Dude fuck him too, if anything I'm just pissed at how Niji management keeps shooting itself in the foot with irreparable consequences by consistently failing those who left. If Lize ever leaves I'm done with VTubers forever.

>>56236176
The fact that he won't be in Nijifes should be a good red flag

how hard is kiara cuming now that she has a dedicated raiders on MWF?

>>56236210
3 delicious hags intertwined

>Kiara helping Fuwamoco behind the scenes
it's over

>>56235611
bros, how the fuck does idolshowdown, an indie game with only female streamers in it, be featured like this? What the fuck

>>56236192
Roboko-san...

>>56236180
Lmao she wants people to stay so bad

Episode 8 will be interesting. Wonder if the tourist nips will comeback or just wait for the next jp only stream

>>56235277
Why are nigga in the comment saying "Thank you" en masse? Is it just Hololive fan who are so scared of these announcements?

>I have the most interactions with Nerissa and Fuwamoco

Holoniggers, you don't want Nijisanji to fall, trust me. You'll start eating each other even more than what you already do if that happens. And you won't be able to blame it on the falseflagging boogeyman anymore.

>>56236362
What can i say, i closed the tab fast

>>56236400
MWF raids every MWF.

>https://streamable.com/i8foba
Oh it's dead. Does someone have it?

>>56236398
Was he in last year's?

>>56236321
theres like 90 members in nijisanji who are in there for 4 to 5 years and idk 20 or so in hololive.. i do wonder sometimes how many years those from 2018/2019 will remain. is 5 years a lot? will they go to like 10 years? i wish i could see the future

[Sad News] Kiara talks with FuwaMoco on discord

So miko gold today? Or is it FWMC gold today?

>>56236210
WE ARE APPROACHING THE SINGULARITY AHHHH

>>56236418
Had 200k downloads the first 2 weeks bro. Is better than most poverty games

>>56236440
>Fuwamoco
Timezones probably

Did Kiara get raided?

>>56236087
listen man like i said here >>56235854
i thought it was a slug.
also, if you removed the seal and you told me that it was just an up-close shot of a river with rocks, i'd believe you.

Fuwamoco doesn't say who is replying when they chat in private

Not gonna lie that morning show was grim for FWMC. High 4view guaranteed post buff but 5view? I think it’s not happening.

>>56236453
Phasefags are just as much of a blight as Nijisisters nowadays.

>>56236138
I find it funny how companies does this. If it's my job, I would always want a bonus or a raise. Not a freaking free pizza or KFC.

>>56236533
no, natural incline

>>56236453
dont tell them that a monopoly would be bad for their agency, the console warring mentality and common enemy dont make them be able to see

>>56236418
It's pretty high quality for an indie game and it got some exposure from the recent EVO.

>>56236533
Yes

>>56236453
Spot on.
The infighting is bad enough as it is across NijiJP fanbases. Admittedly I was part of this but Gundou graduated so I don't really have anyone particular I dislike anymore.

>>56236418
Look, the truth is that the bar for the FGC is LOW as shit when you look at the hard numbers, such that the numbers Idol Showdown got on release were AMAZINGLY IMPRESSIVE for what it is.

FWMCMORNINGS
Ep0: 38,979
Ep1: 28,132 (-10)
Ep2: 23,079 (-5)
Ep3: 21,482 (-2)
Ep4: 17,258 (-4)
Ep5: 14,771 (-3)
Ep6: 16,748 (+2)
Ep7: 13,359 (-3) [Koyo+Kiara overlap]
Ep8: ??? 10k - 12k

>>56236453
>And you won't be able to blame it on the falseflagging
People still blame /qa/ for shit and it's been dead for two years (justifiably so, though, since they have those off-brand chans and shit)

>FWMC have separate discords
>they simply reply under one
>she can't tell who replies without the signature
This is interesting. They really do share everything.

>>56235611
Early fame ruined this game
>Game just came out, barely any balance
>Character roster is incomplete as well
>Already get dragged to events after events
>The dev will just keep shilling it in event and won't actually try to improve the game because that is "good enough"

>>56235382
No. That shithole is coopted and raided to hell.

>>56236483
I dunno, just saw a sister talking about it in his pre-chat when it was first shared itt hours ago.

>>56236157
you have to admit that the nijisanji you love is dead. There's no point in following them anymore

According to Kiara, Fuwawa and Mococo each has a discord account and usually they reply through Mococo's account. They only have one pc so they can only have one account logged in at one time.

>>56236453
>He thinks we want Nijisanji to fall
Fuck no, I've seen what monopolies do to companies, I'd rather Nijisanji continues to keep Cover on their toes in terms of general operations. I really do wish that cover would stop trying to stuff the stars down everyone's throats though.

>>56236591
ep 8 - 12k
ep 9 - 14k (monday buff)

>>56236638
My kamioshi (Lize) is still there, so I pay attention to the company she's in, unfortunately.

>>56236533
use your brain

>>56236591
It'll be interesting over the next few weeks and months to see if the Monday program is stronger inherently compared to the Wednesday and Friday episodes.

Around 2 months after debut they start getting money from youtube, sponsors seems to be quicker

>>56236557
So your rather get a $5 bonus instead of the curry to post on twitter and get a bajillion likes?

It takes 2 months for Youtube to send the SC according to Kiara.
I always though it was one

>>56236553
you say this now, but when the JP collabs come, you're gonna say
>i knew all along that they would remain 5views, i swear it

>>56236453
no, from hololive vs nijisanji it will turn into hololive vs the rest of vtubers

>>56236587
>>56236577
>>56236513
>>56236607
How would it maintain the popularity if it already goes to events like this? Also, funding for new updates etc. This is honestly unstable aside from iit being a good point for your resume.

Kiara dropped the ball and wasted the raid by having shitty network

>>56236728
First paycheck takes two months

>>56236581
>Actual niji Tourism in the thread
Go back to your stinking discord samefagging retard.

>>56236604
I wonder if they agreed to always do work stuff together and then live their separate lives off-camera. Because if either of them yabbed it’d be over for both of them, so they agree not to do anything in character online if they’re not together (or at least do it on the same account so the other one can see it).

>>56236484
It's kind of insane when you think about it. The OG Hololive roster is still here
>Gen 0
>Gen 1
>Gen 2
>And maybe Gen 3
They have went through hell and back, through the high and low point of Hololive and to this day most of them are still here with the company, still contribute a lot to it and enjoy hanging out with their kouhais

Luna really loves kaela

>>56236662
The ideal scenario is that Nijisanji remains competitive, but with how Riku is steering the yacht, the future is looking kinda grim

>Kiara discusses youtube monitization
>Live stream offline

>>56236726
Japanese curry is shit

>>56236797
>and then live their separate lives off-camera
They sleep in the same bed dude

>>56236210
>Engineers at Holodex
>Plasma stream convergence is highly, highly discouraged.
CROSS THE STREAMS

>>56236640
they didn't learn about using browser and the app isn't it?

>>56236576
>>56236662
>if Niji fell, Hololive would be a monopoly!!!
VSPO... Phase... Kawaii...
And also, if the corporate entity of Anycolor fell at any time, I guarantee you a bunch of the popular organs would get together under some new brand, be it another corporation or something more low-key like a network of independent Vtubers.

>>56236555
Plappa fans*

>>56236785
I don't use Discord. And I've always been here, although I'm not a tribalist and I am critical of Nijisanji contrary to most of their fans here.

>>56236114
Just a bait, so I can show off (You)s to my family

LMAO NEAL IS WATCHING

>>56235755
>Haachama
Bro, you have to let it go.
She's gone.

>>56236591
The Koyo overlap was a non-factor, being an SC reading (I assume) and no funnels.

>>56236772
Good, very good.

>>56236808
he can always just boost it with more bots, as weve seen many times recently

>>56236180
I'd rather close the stream

>>56236850
It's bunk beds, anon. At least according to their claim.

>>56236855
still one computer... and it's probably just 16gb ram ruru

>>56236192
You act as if being bigger than Kiara is a weird thing

>>56236894
>weve seen many times recently
where? niji?
if cover used bot, homo NY stream wouldn't be that grim

>>56236180
https://youtu.be/KouE7vfolBI
Better Holocure stream

>Kiara gets raided by Fuwamoco
>Kiara's stream starts shitting itself for one reason or another
happened everytime so far

>>56236738
This. Kson predicting that western vtubing will die soon will be triggered by le'holochad.

>>56236994
>Axel's onahole
I'm good

>>56236802
People used to say that they wouldn't expect to be in the scene by five years, but we're more than five years in and most of the scene is still going.
I think people REALLY thought about Vtubers in the First Boom sense, the Kaguya Luna/Kizuna Ai/Mirai Akari era, where the structures to support them long-term just weren't there.
Ever since the corporate side grew, the long-term sustainability of Vtubing for both a market and an individual's perspective has grown significantly.

>>56236920
it's real, not even gonna do a
>just trust me
im pretty sure someone posted a picture of it here

>>56236984
follow the chain anon, post before was talking about Riku

>>56236859
>VSPO... Phase... Kawaii...
None of those come even remotely close to Hololive's level of popularity.

Ruffians need to get used kiara raid and honestly they shouldn't tune out and watch her for atleast 2hrs

>>56236863

>>56237032
>Axel's used onahole
ftfy

Zeta 4k btw

>>56236920
nta but technicality of beds aside the point is they live together their entire lives in the same room. why are you trying to argue they have separate lives?

>>56236453
I'm not following, are you implying a sizeable amount of nijiniggers will gravitate towards the homos instead of flesh streamers or kpop dudes?

>>56236878
Wont know till i check chat overlap to deduce if it's a non factor.

>>56237039
3 years is a fucking hard cap in this industry. Imo if a Vtuber survived past their 3rd years then they can survive for at least 3 more

>>56236662
Cover doesn’t quite have a monopoly…in Japan. I figure that tastes are so different that even in Japan the “virtual idol” angle doesn’t appeal for everyone. And they “only” have like forty people there, who aren’t enough to suit the tastes of over 120 million people.
But vtubing in the *west*? Yeah, vtubing from Japan is going to be monopolized by Hololive because it’s close to being so already. But that’s because most JP companies are shit at expanding abroad and Cover isn’t (the fact that the ID branch is still running when Niji’s failed is also proof imo).
So yeah, Hololive might not have competition in the west other than with small corpos, and if that happens, it’ll be Riku’s fault. Since like many Japanese CEOs he doesn’t seem to know how to expand overseas. Actually, he seems even worse than average.

>>56237039
all those you mentioned were corporates though

>>56236994
No thanks

>>56237062
Neither does Nijisanji

>>56237089
being in the game buff

>>56237053
well there's also a topic about cover
anyway
how would the company survive with just bots

>>56236994
>>56237032
4k, when is Axel making that same number again?

>>56236591
Can you add the days?

>>56237071
30 minutes
Take it or leave it.

>>56236994
Her new model is ugly, I usually like landmine girls bit this one misses the mark

>>56236591
>Kiara overlap
already coping I see

>>56236859
This is like saying mom and pop shops competing with Walmart

>>56237089
got some from fwmc.

eh I shouldn't be watching kiara's holocure, I have better things to do such as catching up on the dogs' holocure.

>>56237062
especially kawaii.
just because they had 1 3D concert doesn't mean they are popular, especially when they had to Ax an entire gen.

sorry Luna, 10k is for grown ups only

>>56237157
her base outfit is so much better

why doesn't tempus play holocure? oga plays it

>>56237089
Based! Axels used goods should get another chance

>>56237141
The same way fleshstreamer can bot their way to popularity
By giving the illusion something is popular they will attract actual people come checking it out because "it's popular!!!"

>>56237115
sometimes i wonder where Nijisanji is right now if Iwanaga didn't graduate from the company. he seemed to be a more loved figure there than Riku.

>>56233354
Matsuka Matsurika.

>>56236453
>>56236576
>>56236581
>>56236662
>>56236738
We want kurokara to crash and burn with no survivors and Riku running away to a non extradition country leaving behind a bankrupt company

>>56236591
Monday:
>Ep0: 38,979
>Ep3: 21,482
>Ep6: 16,748

Tuesday:
>Ep1: 28,132
>Ep4: 17,258
>Ep7: 13,359

Wednesday:
>Ep2: 23,079
>Ep5: 14,771

>>56237157
yeah her artist mama did a shitty job overall.
she need to sue them.

>>56237224
sure doesn't help nijiEN tho

[Sad News] Kiara doesn’t like alcohol
>THAT BITCH!

>>56236453
Neh Nijisisters are genuinely mentally ill and a complete blight on vtubing. There is also a difference between some tribalfagging bants and a mentally ill fucktard spamming doxx on cooldown and the astroturfed catalog threads.
The best thing Nijisanji has done is keeping dramanigs like Khyo busy at the very least.

>>56237117
They were corporate, but the corporate STRUCTURE was weak and new. They stumbled, failed to effectively promote their talents, made decisions that we now know are bad ideas, etc.

>>56237237
riku is just a puppet anyway. it's his uncles moving the company

>>56237202
Literally nothing in there for them. Atleast with Oga he's an actual fan of the girls.

>>56237042
I was trying to avoid doxposting.

>>56237094
I am not >>56236797; I'm the original poster of this chain.

>>56237130
i thought this was referencing biden sniffing

>>56236728
It's about 1-2 months. If I send a holo a superchat today, it'll get included in the AdSense payout for August, which gets sent to Cover towards the end of September. Once Cover gets it (which can take a few days because of how slow bank transfers are), their cut will get sent to the talent (which also takes a few days due to how slow bank transfers are).

>it wasn't EU hours when FWMC got 38k the first stream
>it's EU hours now that they get 13k
when exactly are EU hours?

>>56237182
>they had to Ax
They axed one girl, then the rest all quit en masse a few months later for unrelated reasons, iirc

Why is the bar seem so much higher for Fuwamoco? Aren’t they doing very well in relation to their gen? I mean all around too; live views, subs, money.

>ReGLOSS IS A NEW BRANCH UNDER HOLOPRO

>>56237335
>actual fan
>soon to be sexpest

>there are people who think Phase Connect will be the 2nd most popular VTuber agency in the world in their headcanon when Nijisanji "falls"
BVTM please make yourself less obvious please.

>>56237372
whenever they underperform

>>56237202
oga and pizzaman has a close relationship to the IDgirls, so they get a pass.

>>56237258
Where do you live that today is Tuesday?

>>56237372
EU prime time starts 1-2 hours from now on

>>56236751
You don't. The game is dead. That's why they only have 3 updates planned with Pekora being one.
They wont get paid to do more and the FGC will throw it the moment an update doesn't drop in less than 2 months.
Like you said, is mostly for your resume.

>>56237135
Nah, even with the continued incompetence and drama they're still on par with Cover in current year. And based on publicly available numbers, it looks like there's a literal order of magnitude power gap between Cover/Anykara and the rest of the industry.

>>56237372
Every time of the day, but anons also count midnight and work as EU hours

>>56236728
All the revenue from a month gets sent after the 15th of the following month.

>>56237206
Ty vesper for hooking me with nodoka chan

>>56237378
>why is the bar so much higher?
Shitposters in /#/ will perpetually set the bar exactly 2,000 CCV higher than whatever a chuuba currently has at the moment of their post. Most people won't be that stupid, but shitposters will be, and since there isn't much discussion generated when people are sensible and in agreement, the shitpost standard gets discussed more often.

>>56237117
Yes, but the equivalent of the no-name western companies that started when Hololive got big (BEFORE Myth debuted). You’ve never heard of them. I haven’t. Tsunderia’s the only one I recognize and they’re dead (and I’m sure many anons don’t recognize the name anymore).
The first thing that’ll happen when a new market like this opens is companies starting up. Good companies run by competent leaders that know what they’re doing and how to actually make money in this industry take longer to happen.

At this point all I can do is laugh

>>56237450
Please understand, I'm retarded.

I think cover need more members to raid kiara.

>>56237459
I dunno man, they keep Skullgirls around and it's been a dead game for nearly a decade

>>56236878
Chat overlap has no useful insights besides decrease of NijiEN tourist and Spike of Pekora viewers that may or may not be correlated to numbers.

>>56237145
He'd have to leech off of Enna or something, but she's already loose and worn out from Kyo.

Reminder that BVTM likes to falseflag as Hololive fans to punch up at Nijisanji even though one of their admins is a rabid Holoanti and is responsible for 90% of the catalog bait topics

>>56237537
Omega has been a disaster for hololive

>>56237182
speaking of that concert. did they disclose the actual attendance count of that live? or at least a picture of the whole venue just to have an idea how many attended here?

>>56237372
EU hours is when number bad

>>56237440
I mean, it’s possible, if the same unforeseen circumstances and trends that allowed China to grow so fast in forty years are true for global weebdom.
That’s supposed to be sarcastic, by the way. It’s not going to happen. Even if anime is getting more popular outside of Japan, the most popular corpo in anything anime is not going to be headquartered in fucking Canada.

>>56237464
Are you guys not forgetting a member of the big three. Vshojo is up their on par Hololive and nijisanji.

>>56237372
>Number bad
EU hours
>Number good
Not EU hours

>>56237579
I don't care. I laugh at Nijis and ignore Hololive antis, and sometimes Sneedpost at them.

>>56237378
They have two talents for one channel. They should be getting double the numbers to everyone else. If not then the twin channel failed

>>56237537
bro actually doesnt watch stream, he's part of the chorus in one of towa's new songs. or is that not good enough for them?

>>56237672
naaaaaaaah that's the korean corpo.
but they can settle for 4th

>>56236802
niji gen 1 and 2 also is still 100% iirc

>>56235486
but 20 shiori bait threads reach bump limit
that's what counts! jannies have their priorities as straight as their sexuality

>>56237372
Their first stream after debut was their morning stream, which did very well, while their lowest performing streams are at EU primetime. This isn’t up for debate, it’s just a fact.

Sisters trying hard today

>>56237537
I bet he doesn't even know wtf is a holostar

>>56237537
>live
those are nijifans, i think even vshojofags don't call them like that

>>56237672
bro is using an image with two ex vshojo members from a concert two years ago, yikes.

>>56237294
Unironically because they did not doubled down on bot

>>56237700
You have 2 brain hemispheres yet you write as if you have one

>>56237728
>live and stars
your comprehension reps?

>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
DAMN YOU, YOU WENCH!
>FAUNASCHIZO WAS RIGHT! DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL, HE WAS RIGHT!

How could I have been so blind?!?!?! She's a FUCKING MONSTER!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2pvJUhIAHU

>>56236859
retard. take a look at how many subs both hololive and nijisanji have and compare with the entirety of brave group
Its hololive, nijisanji>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>VSPO, Vshojo, etc

In term of subs, revenue, profit, viewership, both of them are too distant from the rest.

>>56237237
He is an "advisor" to Vshojo JP now and you see how that goes
I remember the general consensus regarding that is that the man was merely an idea guy without a slightest idea on how to make money

>>56236453
>>56236576
>>56236859
Hololive is already a natural monopoly in the west if we think of vtubers as a stand-alone industry (which, of course, they're not), but if we think of them as part of the streaming industry (which they obviously are), Hololive is a fairly small player comparatively.

>>56237840
yes im agreeing with you, im saying the dude in the image is even more retarded than how your image presents it

Looking back on FWMC's JP stream, I want to check with people:
Is this Verification Cull closer to the EN average, or JP average for severity and subsequent bounce up? Checking to see if the factor that decides it is Audience Centralization, or Streamer Region.

Tally doko?

>>56237850
>You lost the game
Ahaha based Grandpa influencing fauna

>>56237693
Sure you do, Phasefag

>>56237764
Yeah, pretty fucking insane
Meanwhile the newbies keep dropping like flies after what? 1 year? 2 years? How the fuck are they supposed to carry the torch of the old one like that?

>>56237850
FUCK YOU ANON. THE INSTANT THAT HORRIBLE THUMBNAIL POPPED UP MY GUT DROPPED.

JESUS the amount of FWMC bait. Didn't someone say FWMC is schizo-proof?

>>56237237
Riku never has been that involved in Nijisanji, which is why Im always baffled theres so much focus on him. Before it was Iwanaga who was the head of Nijisanji and COO of anycolor, after he left, someone else went to his place but it wasnt riku. riku is like the top corporate but hes definitely not hands on to the projects

>>56237672
kek, stop living in the past. Two of them already left
And the vtuber larger than ironmouse also left that company
Vshojo is a shell of its former peak

>>56237870
This, so much this
Small corpo usually have like 1-2 stars they build the entire company around. Holo and Niji have a whole fucking army of stars they can use

>>56236484
I think 4-5 years is a good enough time to graduate, honestly. Its half a decade, most employees dont even remain all that time these days in the same company.

>>56236256
>First time JP stream
You guys think debut buff doesn't exist for JPs too?

>>56238023
>shell
funny, it was a shell company to begin with ruru

>>56237870
How would anycolor collapsing affect the vtubing market?

>>56237964
I mean, have you seen the quality of bait they produce for it? It's not even worth mentioning

>Kizuna AI, 四天王, Gamebu, upd8, .Live, Animare, 774, NND migrants, Salami
Damn I love a good funnel.

>>56237903
>>56237903
>Hololive is already a natural monopoly in the west
I doubt that since their both vshojo and mythic are around. At most you can say hololive own the youtube streaming side but on the twitch side vshojo is on top.

>>56237672
>he doesn't know about v-clan's pay for play deals

>>56237891
Did he give them the exact opposite of "accelerate" cause VshojoJP's recruitment pace makes hololive feel fast. Just 2 talents in 1 year, no plans of future members.

>>56238096
Talking in Japanese, is not the same as actual new debut.

So Gura fucked off again already? Well that was quick

>>56237870
Don't talk about subs when pretending Nijisanji is in the same universe as Hololive

>>56238034
This.
This so fucking much.

>>56237964
JPbeggars

>>56237639
Anon Niji could shut down tomorrow and PC would still be far from 2nd most popular.

WHAT THE FLYING FUCK?!
>Hiragana "へ" and katakana "ヘ" are different?!?!?
Fucking Nene is smarter than me?!
>I DON'T CONSENT TO THE SIMULATION!

>>56236692
>>56236533

>>56238134
For once he was the one who hired most of the current popular Niji

>>56238008
He wants people to like him like Yagoo maybe?

>>56237672
You mean Ironmouse when she's collabing with Connor and Kson are on par with individual JP members within Hololive and Nijisanji. If you think Vshojo is one of the bog boys, you're probably some Pepega and Pog spamming retard.

>>56237937
As with anything in the algo, the absolute truth is "who the fuck knows?" However, high verification cull and other older chart oddities (CCVID, fixed interval sawteeth) tend to correlate with some kind of audience flagging, not the streamer themselves.

>>56238155
left is hiragana, right is katakana
Did I get it right?

>>56238138
Watch stream, brownie.

>>56238138
She was waiting for numbers to come in… she will stream because Advent is still doing well.

>>56237963
I dont think the newbies are like that. I made a count for the JP graduations and most of them come from 2018/2019, very few from 2020 and almost none from post 2021

2018: kogane (4 months), kuroha (less than a month), kaminari (less than a month)
2019: Mororu (1 year), Setsuna (1 year and 3 months), umiyasha (1 year), hassaku (1 year and 4 months), Azuma (9 months), Chitose (8 months)
2020: Kasumi (2 years and 5 months), Tsukimi (1 year and 4 months), Achiki (1 year and 6 months)
2021: Gibara (2 years), Lulu (2 years and 2 months)
2022: Warabeda (3 years and 3 months), Mayuzumi (3 years), Melissa (2 years and 4 months), Axia (1 year and 4 months)
2023: Akane (2 years and 9 months), Gundo (4 years and 5 months)

>>56238155
it's easy anon
katakana is strictly straight lines, while hiragana has curves
>>56238194
you're correct, you can see the slight curve on the lengthier side

>>56238155
>>56238194
>Did I get it right?
Hell if I know. I'm still in shock that they're not the same
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1eZv0JVkAs

>>56238172
>bog boys
I agree

>>56238180
In a way, the high-level posters in this thread can probably mark down on their resume that they're "independently trained on algorithmic interpretation methods" and gain something of note out of this whole shebang IRL.

>>56238141
nijisanji is the closest to hololive in subs anon. holo has like 70 million and niji has 60 million. vspo is the third one with... 5 million

>>56237393
But he is married to a Holo, isn't he?

How did Millie basically become the strongest NijiEN girl by just spamming zomboid streams for two full months?

>>56237672
How can the dying rat even dance if she can't walk?

>>56238216
i just realized that most nijijp graduations pre 2020 are literally whos

>>56238135
It's their first full JP stream. The first morning show got 30k+. Subsequent JP zatsus will likely be lower similarly.

Moving away from bait posts, thoughts on 3.0? Is it good or not? imo I would've hoped they would upgrade home3d more

>Kiara whenever she recieves a big fat juicy raid from Fuwawa and Mococo from both sides.
What are her numbers?

>>56238114
Niji is next in the menu of funnels. Owari Da.

>>56238335
Nanomachines

>>56238335
ew pity bait season

>>56238371
>thoughts on 3.0
A gimmick with very narrow applications, very similar to Home3D or mocopi in this aspect
>nice to have, not game changing because it won't paper over any deficiency in content choice

>>56238371
I feel like 3.0 strays away too much from the anime that it's starting to feel uncanny.

>>56238371
it has its uses as thumbnail materials and reaction images

>luna likes kaela and anya
is that because of rust?

>>56238371
>upgrade home3d
>mocopi integrated
>Sony hand-tracking integrated
it's their primary app, it will always update without fanfare

>>56238370
but the last time she got a raid the dude got banished to the shadow realm

I feel like a lot of shit had gone wrong for vtubers outside of Hololive after gura dropped this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Trs-SFvMtYo

>>56238399
I love that Twitchtard still buy it for the nth time and throw money at her. I mean can't blame IM for keep trying it since the viewers believe it

>>56237672
Isegye idols mog them, Vshitshow cuck.

Wait, Miamoto is graduating???? Why???

>>56238326
>the strongest NijiEN girl
huh?? Nobody watches her anon, plus the majority of her fanbase is filipino.
She had a lot of viewers yesterday because she got raided, and because she was talking about her offcollab with 5 males in a hotel, literally stabbing her loyal fans in the heart on the same day she's trying to promote her merch.

>>56238172
>If you think Vshojo is one of the bog boys
Hololive themselves have acknowledge vshojo as one of their main rivals in their share holding report.

>>56237378
It's just shitposters Anon. I don't know if you noticed but Advent will get 200 bait threads at any time for the most inane shit.
Advent was an objective success and massively overperformed considering the absolute state of western Vtubing in the past year. Both when it comes to the numbers and the quality of the talents.