/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>56213677
>Tempus was a mistake
Yes
>Was Tempus the biggest mistake Cover ever made? Was it a worse mistake than HoloCN?
No. No.
Don't waste a topic next time.

>>56213677
>dumb OP forgetting most members had several breaks during this time

This board was a mistake

>>56213802
/thread

>>56213802
people have been telling the jannies how to fix this board for 2 years by just banning /#/ and all /#/fag threads but they refuse to listen.

>>56214005
The containment excuse is bs too.

>>56214005
They encourage it. If anything, once you start exposing the shitters for what they are mods ban you instead like when I once called number subhumans what they are - basement dwelling poorfags who larp as economic experts despite living off of welfare/parents or working some low end part tine job just to scrape by. Got banned for trolling, guess I made SEAmod mad by making fun of his kind. No making fun of Gura or SEA tho, that's off-limits. Harassing other streamers and discussing how to harass them? That's fine too!

>>56214005
>>56214188
>>56214313
>sisters seething at the evil numbers because they prove tempus was a cancer dragging down the girls

>>56214452
It appeals to a different segment of the market hence it's a big win for Cover. It's only a loss for incels that want more of the same content. You're going to be disappointed when cover expands their reach more and more.

>>56214452
>not the first post from this IP
Nope, I hate all numberfagging. No bias in that field and no exceptions. You kind is insecure and pic related shows exactly who you are.

>>56214550
It appeals to a toxic fanbase that constantly attacks the girls and their fans and wants them to disappear, and has already nuked nijiEN into irrelevance. Keep your cancer away from hololive.

>>56214550
It damaged the main market, resulting in a net loss. You are getting disproved currently by cover discretly thrashing tempiss.

>>56214751
>homos attack the girls
besides some twitterfags rarely, I don't see it as much as you fags harassing them. Stop deflecting, everyone sees what you're doing.

>>56214655
So you have no arguments other than NUMBERS BAD.

>>56214820
No arguments? You subhuman monkeys attack other streamers just because of numbers. You pick holos that are popular to hide behind so that you can harass and troll others and so that you wouldn't be made fun of yourselves. it's pathetic small dick energy behavior. How does that make numbers good you absolute downie? You can deflect and project as much as you want, but numbers are one thing, yet you shits for brains use them to harass streamers.

>>56214813
>everyone sees what you're doing
Right back at you, your toxic fanbase has been exposed multiple times and keeps getting exposed.

>>56213677
>that EN line

>>56214954
So no arguments

>>56214971
show proof, I will keep saving proofs of you cunts harassing holos too. I've been passive all this time, but you cunts have been insufferable so I'm gonna start compiling stuff which shows how you faggots organize raids and harassment campaigns on holos that dare breathe the wrong way. For every homobeggar there's 10 unikeks screeching at streamers for doing jack shit.

>>56214954
Numbers are neither good nor bad, they simply tell a story and the story here is that Tempus was a mistake that brought down holoEN to its knees before management finally realized their mistake and fired the producer responsable for this mistake.

>>56215156
>Ina and Gura missing around that time, 2 of the biggest pullers
>somehow it's homo fault
>somehow numberfags know all the managers and what they think based on a few tweets
Mkay..

>>56214954
NTA and those are a bunch of assumptions, Numbers don't tell the whole story, but they are indicators of popularity, if someone is having numbers, they are doing something right (+luck), it's the most neutral way to measure the value for an entertainer.
Ignoring the numbers is obtuse and points to your weakness in accepting reality.

>>56215204
>somehow it's homo fault
It literally is, if Advent happened in 2022 instead of Tempus everything would have been fine.

>>56214550
It's not about expanding reach.
If all of their decisions regarding Stars affected Stars only, this wouldn't turn into drama every single time. They don't reach their hand out for new fans. They slap the hands of current fans to detach- and get a vacant free hand, then join hands with the new fans while the old fans who built up the hobby from nothing with their monetary support get treated like villains who are "in the wrong hobby".

You can tell how much this hobby decayed by the general treatment of keyfabe. We used to have a strict saying "Do not rate the girls or compare them to each other, they are human beings behind their personas and that shit hurts", cut forward two years into the hobby and some Indonesian asshole-licking dogs post a rating board of the girls they set up on some random SEA convention right onto the official subreddit moderated by Cover, outing Aki as unpopular and attracting pity fags to go "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO AKI ", and Cover lets it stay up for multiple days and 3-4k upvotes before the idiot moderator realizes how trashy it is towards Aki.

>>56213677
>>56213766
I fucking forgot HoloCN was a thing. What a terrible experience.

>>56215293
How is them not hiring advent homo fault? Homos have their own artists and managers, how are they obstructing hiring more girls? I don't get it. The twins were still working elsewhere you absolute brainlet, it takes time for people to leave one job, join another and then add the preparing time that holos undergo. There would not be any advent then anyway, not in the same way anyway.

>>56215214
By that logic most of the holos, btw all of the EN ones, are trash and xQc is the best streamer? Do you agree with that? And how amouranth is better than most of the holos? That's why I said numbers are whatever, but it's not cool to use them as a crutch to harass others just for the sake of it. Numberfags are literally streamer antis that simp for big number chuubas while harassing that have smaller numbers, it's nonsensical.

As long as Nijisanji exists, Males will never succeed in Holo.
Holo has marketed itself as a girls only club and that's what the fans want to see, No amount of Holosta collabs with Suisei or whoever else will save them.

There's no demand.

>>56215390
It's the fault of whoever decided releasing Tempus instead of EN3 was a good idea, and that's why Omega was fired. And yes, Tempus DID take EN3's turn in terms of new debuts.

>>56215525
HOW did they take turn? Explain it to me. How are completely unrelated streamers with different handlers stopping main branch from debuting girls? Also you completely ignored my point about 2 of them still being busy back then. Funny how you pricks pretend to be all smart and reasonable all the while completely ignoring points that dismantle your argumets. PLEASE explain how homos are stopping them from debuting holos, and don't forget that you're ignoring fuwamoco then being busy still.
If you're gonna play this game, then you better be forthcoming and honest, otherwise it comes across as you being an anti who just wants to harass some of the holos you don't like personally, which in turn invalidates all your previous arguments.

>>56215204
Why do you think Ina and Gura went missing?

>>56215459
>xQc instead of Kai
>Amouranth
This is how I know you're old and out of touch. Take a nap and chill out grandpa.

>>56213677
>Was Tempus the biggest mistake Cover ever made?
Yes
/thread

>>56215727
>different handlers
Omega was the boss of both HoloEN and HomoEN.
>>56215856
You failed to respond to his argument.

>>56215293
>Advent happened in 2022
Imagine.

>>56215891
I'm not the anon he was arguing with initially. XQC hasn't been the top for a while now and Amouranth stopped being relevant.

>>56215307
Advent is healing vtubing

>>56215727
Omega was the producer of both holoEN and starsEN, and he was pushing the whole HoloProEN unity bullshit. He is the one who decided to turn HoloEN into NijiEN by taking the resources they had and use them for Tempus and not EN3 and push the two branches together. The very poor results of this new direction are what cause Cover to fire him. Hence, Tempus was a mistake.

>>56215459
Says nothing about being the best, but if someone has more numbers they are more popular and that's a fact, you can't admit even that.

>>56215214
>if lots of flies flock to a piece of shit it becomes good
you eat marvel slop and buy all shitty triple aaa releases because they are popular, don't you?

As someone who's been enjoying small corps, I'm kind of glad Tempus happened because that's what gave them a chance to grow.
A timeline where Advent was EN4 with the same lineup, and some of the girls who ended up in small corps were in an EN3 that happened instead of Tempus could have been interesting, though.

>>56215307
Remember the dumb achievement announcements that Hololive used to do? People kept complaining that not all Holos were on it everytime, so Cover did the retarded move of putting a box for Holos who didn't achieve shit. So freaking retarded, fans don't understand if they weren't in the achievement announcement then that means they didn't achieve anything.

>>56215087
>I will keep saving proofs of you cunts harassing holos too
>too
Thanks for admitting you're harassing holos I guess. As I said, your kind is the toxic waste of vtubing.

>>56215727
NTA but for real, THEY RELEASED TWO GENS. TWO FUCKING GENS. THEY RECRUITED 6 RETARD THEN TWO MORE WITHIN 6 MONTH. if they didn't pull all ressources toward the fag the advent would have been EN4. Well it's not all bad, the tempiss failure helped cleaning up top EN management, so a bad for a good in my book.

>>56215988
Fair, but also not really a good reason to barge into an argument and tell someone to stop talking.

>>56215390
Stars isn't at fault for being hired over Advent. It's management's fault for treating the hobby as a business opportunity and YAGOO's fault for trying to insert his own fantasies.
It's because he hired EN Stars that EN started having this thin red line to begin with where formerly there simply was a huge brick wall called Language Barrier. There is no good reason a boys group or girls group should interact with each other, there is a reason they are separated into groups. You don't play football with a basketball and you don't send a soccer player to compete in a basketball tournament.

If YAGOO wants a mixed division, he should release a fucking mixed division, not introduce two different types of hornet nests and rallying them up to kill each other, then tilting his head as if he didn't see that coming. You can't show up to two parties, you can't release girls-only gens and then go "Why do you people not want boys??" and expect them all to live out this fantasy where somehow the fans want to watch clique streams and drop a red superchat from the solitude of their own homes while someone like Kronii is tangoing with a mixed gender clique. It's because those people are rejected from Stacey groups and look for a person online who won't betray them for a group that unicorns become vitriol-filled at the sight of it.

>"But why doesn't it matter to those unicorns that the girls do collabs with other girls?? Why only when it's with boys??"
Because the majority of those people, similarly to the top donators of Stars, are of the opposite gender. Not only do they feel their comfort zone is being threatened by a random dude who uses his company standing to get collabs with their oshi, they also generally don't feel threatened by all-girls collabs because it hurts a ton less to know your oshi will never talk to you based on your gender rather than your personality and fame. It puts you as an individual viewer up on the same pedestal as every other male. It's no longer a matter of "They wouldn't like me as a person because I'm not famous and likeable like they are", it becomes a matter of "I'm a man, so it's just not meant to be".

>>56216398
My bad but you gotta stay up to date if you wanna bring up number shit I guess

>>56216276
Typo on my end, I'm an ESL if you didn't catch that, dipshit. It's yuro/SEA hours right now, mistakes are bound to happen.
I've never ever made fun of holos, just a couple of posts over the years taking a mild joking jab at one holo or another. Unlike your kind I'm not a hypocrite and and lying scumbag.

>>56215204
It's the homos' fault because their existence demoralized the real talents in the real branch. You can't just inject unwanted migrants into a nice neighborhood and think everything will be fine.

>>56216806
Nice deflection and headcanon with no basis, I'll be waiting for real arguments with proof meanwhile. By proof I don't mean some post from another retard in /#/, but girls alluding to being demoralized because of homos directly. Actual proof, not headcanons.

>>56216952
>the girls should create drama and smear the reputation of the company and the other girls by airing dirty laundry in public
The extent to which homolovers want to destroy Hololive is boundless.

>>56216268
They did that shit frequently on the subreddit before it turned to shit, too. Every what, 50k subs was an announcement, sometimes not even from Cover itself but just someone looking to farm le epic updoots. They turned Hololive into a sub race, which wasn't even remotely fair because of the massive disparity in global outreach that someone like Fubuki had compared to someone like Flare.
Gura debuting and mogging everyone near instantly was also a grim-dark reminder of how little JP had achieved at that point, working for multiple years, some years downsized to like 50k subs and stagnating. I wouldn't be shocked if this is the reason a lot of JPs simply stopped trying to reach out overseas. They really tried to get a global following until EN arrived and most of them simply gave up.

Evidence?
>Matsuri's last post was April of 2021
>Roboco's last post was June of 2021
>Noel's last post was July of 2021
>Botan's last post was September of 2021
>Aki's last post was March of 2022
>Lui's last post was June of 2022
>Flare's last post was June of 2022
>Mel's last post was August of 2022

September 8th of 2020 was the announcement of a new EN gen called Myth. Ever since Myth came around, most JPs have stopped their attempts to reach out because the competition was simply too good. Not only could they not speak perfect English, they also had to compete with EN which had fucking Gura in it who mogged everyone in JP and immediately got one million subs in record time.

We live in a timeline where EN killed any and all hope of JP interacting with overseas fans more often. The only people who still actively visit that place now are Watame who most likely isn't Watame but a manager and Kanata whose last post was 4 months ago. Most hilarious of all, the EN members who COULD communicate with the fans on the subreddit have simply ditched that platform, too.

>>56217132
>"yeah I have no proof, it's just my headcanon! You want to destroy holos REEE!"
That's what I though. Gonna make claims? You better have something besides voices in your head to back it up with. You being an angry turbovirgin intimidated by people who barely interact with your holos is not a very compelling reason.

>>56217322
the only reason any english speakers watched JP was because there were no english vtubers yet
nobody is gonna watch shit they dont understand if they have an alternative

>>56217322
No wonder most chubas are /here/, reddit is fucking unbearable

>>56217322
Honestly it's a good thing. Most of the shitflingers/dramamonkeys here are also posters there so it's better to avoid that place altogether. All fo the fan interactions happen on twitter anyway.

>>56216575
It's called a Freudian slip.

>>56217339
>when Vesper and Magni existed
>Gura totally isolated herself to the point of not even participating in the Halloween event last year with the other girls
>demotivated and barely managed a stream a month afterwards
>Vesper and Magni gone for over a month
>rate of homo collabs have gone down to an almost dead crawl
>Gura streaming almost daily, clocks in personal best top 10 streams duration-wise, and connected with Holomems and fans again
Case closed.

>>56217322
The achievement announcements were around before reddit was made. I thought they were fine until the fans got them to put in the pity box. Shit was growing so much, its fine to be proud but the pity box was just sad for displaying those who didn't achieve anything. I think another contributor to less JP posts on reddit was Coco's drama and eventual departure. Gura being the 1st to hit 1mn was nuts. FBK was drawing art of her racing against Korone and then shark just came and dominated.

>>56217541
For non-Holos, its less reddit is unbearable and more that they don't get any traction on it. 4chan is still mainly Holo but other groups can have some attention. Go look at how dead the Niji reddit it. The general vtuber reddit is filled with so much shilling with barely any views/comments. Only Holo's reddit has ok activity, thanks to Coco pushing it back in the day.

>>56213677
>Was it a worse mistake than HoloCN?
Holo CN would have gotten China's claws sunk deep into Hololive and utterly, irreparably ruined it. The CN branch would have been Cover's greatest mistake if it wasn't cut short by Coco's kamikaze sacrifice. But it was. So overall, with China out of the way, Tempus is Cover's actual greatest mistake.

>>56217322
Nha it's watame herself who post on reddit, she does it during her stream sometimes.

>>56214005
>banning numberfags from a board that centers around the vtuber BUSINESS
No wonder the jannies laugh at you kek

>>56213677
Please stay in the numbers thread
>>56214985

>>56217931
I respect that, then. But at the same time, Watame has been a sweetheart from the very start, so this doesn't even remotely shock me. I assumed it may not be her because the English is unusually good.

>>56217678
Gura started ghosting her fans way before that. It started to happen more frequently like half a year at least before that from what I remember, I don't follow her closely. I do remember her streaming a lot less even way before that. Also you ignored Ina who was also missing due to her work and she was the second biggest puller behind Gura whose fanbase overlaps with others. Those 2 missing impacts everyone else too. Also wasn't she not working due to all her projects, working on animation, and travelling back and forth to Japan according to you chumbuds from what I've seen? Oh yeah-
>"rate of homo collabs down".
It has been down since couple of months after their debut, not just last month.
>vesper and magni gone, now gura streams
Yeah, new gen debuted and she suddenly started streaming just like when council debuted
See? Nitpicking and bias, doesn't work like that, you gotta be honest and consistent in your claims.

>>56218012
No. Please lick my balls.

>>56218141
You're going to a whole lot of effort to pretend like Tempus didn't cripple Holo EN, sister.

>>56218207
Its probably Oboretai

>>56218207
You're going to a whole lot of efforts to pretend like Tempus crippled Holo EN, sister.
See, works either way when your arguments are deflections and headcanons.

>>56218141
Interesting scripted talking points. It's really the same repeated NPC shit I've seen over the time when Vesper and Magni were still around. So the Gura antis were Tempus shitheads all this while.

tempus didnt cripple HoloEN, the lack of a new gen and shit management did
tempus was just a joke that nobody wanted

>>56218257
NTA anon but no, your sentence make no logical sence it's the difference.

>>56218141
Oh look, more proof that Gura antis are tempus sisters.

>>56218257
>You're going to a whole lot of efforts to pretend like Tempus crippled Holo EN, sister.
I watched Holo EN's numbers immediately nosedive in real time when Tempus debuted. You can't trick me with your low effort lies and Homo apologism when I was there to witness the fiasco first hand.
>See, works either way when your arguments are deflections and headcanons.
Nah.

>>56218257
Would Kronii have had her drama spergout were it not for Tempus's existence? Obviously not, considering it was directly linked to Tempus. Even one bit of drama, one bit of a negative outcome that harmed a Holomem and that came out of Tempus makes their existence a net negative considering how shit their performance is and getting worse.

>>56218325
Was there ever any doubt?

>>56218502
That's on Kronii and corns that started pushing her buttons. kronii shoudn't have played with them or get triggered by corns twlling her what to do. No one forcedbher to play with these fags

>>56218325
How is any of that anting gura? That's just what happened and I clearly remember chumvuds being sad at her for MIA for no reason. All of that happenes before tempiss too so I don't get ir

>>56213677
The graph shows HoloEN was dying since the start of 2022 though, on the contrary Tempus seems to have generated some hype which resulted in that spike before their debut.

>>56218747
>Tempus seems to have generated some hype which resulted in that spike before their debut
Why aren't you mentioning the crash following their debut?

>>56213677
At least with HoloCN it was really easy to just nuke the branch with minimal backlash since it was attached to bilibili and they actually got something out of it, with the Azur Lane collab being extremely important for Hololive's expansion in the west. Tempiss on the other hand brought fuck all to the table outside of an extremely retarded audience who tries to shove the faggots on anything Hololive while barely even watching them and getting rid of them without making the entire western scene hate Cover will be much harder even if their actual fanbase is minuscule.

>>56213784
>dumb retard ignoring how the lack of a new gen exacerbated the impact of these breaks

>>56218325
>>56218431
Hey, you fags started pinning Gura's issues on homos when the two aren't related at all and then you have the gall to call me an anti? I'm in my right to point out your hypocrisy and deflections if you're gonna do it this way.

>>56218747
The way you people try to twist plain facts is honestly impressive, absolutely no shame or decency whatsoever, just straight up brazen lies.

>/vt/ blames males.
>Not themselves for being antagonistic and the constant shitpost against other vtubers.
Is this so hard to believe? I stopped watching a few vtubers because their fans badmouth my oshi even though she's friends with them.

>>56219222
This. I stopped watching holos 70% because of other people and 30% because tbqh the holos aren't improving and are playing the same blockshit half the time.. I hate blockshit game. mostly due to other fans being absolute cunts.

>>56214813
For 1 unicorn fan "harassing", you have 1000 faggots like you shitting on the girls for believing in their own value. Just face it, you are a cancer. I saw 1 guy screeching on twitter and you faggot fanbase with braindead behaviour choose to doxx the girls because you want to own le unicorn, that guy not even a unicorn because he talking about raid(jpgirls). And guess what, cancer like you congratulated him.

>>56219346
Typical homobeggar that doesn't watch streams. If you did you would know they barely touched Minecraft for a long time and only returned to it for the ID festival.

>>56219470
Why can't so called Holostar fans actually watch them?

>>56219470
???
I don't beg, what? I watch an indie, a fleshie, 1 homo only and 1 ID holo. Just cause I watch a homo doesn't mean I beg for anything, also he doesn't even know about holos or ever talk about them. I stopped back then and I couldn't be fucked to check up on them again. Once you lose a fan then he's gone, simple.

>>56213677
For me? No.
Were they worse than HoloCN? No.
HoloCN were a bunch of political dickriders for Communist China.

>>56214813
Oh yes because 4chan is real, not reddit, twitter and youtube comments where they actually read them. An attack on their fanbase is an attack on them, but you won't understand it because you never a fan. Just a unity bitch that only come once in a bluemoon for clip and thumb up.

>>56219222
Sounds like you're a weak-willed faggot who easily lets others influence his life, and a mongolian basket-weaving forum at that.

>>56219587
you expect /vt/ to tell the difference?

>>56219612
look who's talking, letting /vt/ influence your decisions lemao

>>56219222
>homosisters so delusional they're blaming /vt/ for Tempus driving fans away from Holo EN
KEK

>>56219551
But they are, like 100 of them.

>>56218747
No, it shows that it started dying when tempus was announced and everyone saw what was coming

>>56219720
My opinions are my own, unlike you who literally admitted you let this shithole influence you. Retard.

>>56219222
>Not themselves for being antagonistic and the constant shitpost against other vtubers.
The graph tells another story, see this is the things with numbers, numbers don't lie, you can live in your own delusions but numbers are the factual truth

>>56219839
>numbers don't lie
That's why homobeggars have to make up delusional copes and do absurd mental gymnastics to "explain" how the numbers don't show what they clearly show. Tempus crippled Holo EN and they can't revise history to erase that plainly obvious fact no matter how hard they try.

>>56215214
you faggots are no different than marvelfags & AAAfags who eat any slop as long it's ''popular''

>>56220580
You're saying that because the numbers aren't on your side. You'd be the first to numberfag if they worked in your favor.

>>56214550
A girl with a prince-like model would do an infinitely better job with a female audience than any of the homos and she wouldn't bring this cancerous fanbase who is one small step from wanting Cover to force the girl to interact with their precious faggots. Also it was such a big win that two of their top performing cunts are not over 5 weeks "not"-suspended. Fucking amazing.

>the enabler of homostars

>>56220658
Tempus should have been an intentional joke branch played by Holos pretending to be men as a gag. The kino would have been unbelievable.

>>56213677
HoloCN gave us Chinese Towa and morale high ground. What have Tempus given us ? Drama, fanbase fracture, homobeggars,... Tempus was worse and we won't see the end of them anytime soon unlike china.

>>56219346
and.. why your extremely niche story has to do with anything, your case is probably 1 in 500k, block game is the most popular game in the world for a reason.

>>56219222
They'll blame everyone and everything but themselves and would side with anyone that even slightly favors their agenda.

>>56218906
How is it relevant? The graph falls pretty much the same on both sides of the spike. Tempus failed to attract new fans, it did not cause an exodus like the disingenuous OP claims.
>>56219202
Tell me how I'm wrong. Pro tip:
>you can't
>>56219755
Learn to read graphs retard

>>56221734
>homosister lies about a graph everybody can see

>>56220658
Then debut that model and see how it does. Just keep trying to grab different segments of the market. Don't only focus on one thing like trying to squeeze every drop out of the toothpaste bottle, that's obviously a bad strategy that makes no business sense.

>>56219415
Thank you so much for this. Saved. I'm so sick of these tempigs and their gaslighting psyops. Though I suppose that's to be expected from actual faggots and feminists, being a bunch of virtue-signalling narcissists that they are.

>>56219551
Because that would require effort. And that is something faggots, trannies and some women lack. Picrel.

>>56219720
But you're the one who stopped watching certain chubas because of their "fans"? You just put your foot in your mouth.

>>56220135
>>56219839
Numbers are evil, comrades. They are nothing but the machinations of the capitalistic bourgeoisie who are trying to make you blind to the homotruth. Embrace emotions, reject empirical evidence.

>>56221825
It's ok, your retarded claim got BTFO. It's ok BVTM, it happens.
And stop using Gura for your shitposts

>>56221866
And shoving a bunch of dudes also never made any business sense when Hololive is known for their girls and any and all attempts to make male vtubers under the Holo brand work ended up being a completely failure at worst and a paltry success at best with Roberu becoming the most popular Holostars member by actively ignoring Hololive and interacting with other agencies and indies. Tempus' whole existence is an exact mirror to the JP branch, both being created because Cover's competitor, Anycolor, found success with male vtubers, and it's downfall was also completely predictable even if they were more successful than their JP senpai early on.

>>56214005
>/#/ is le bad
only general that reaches 1000 posts on this shitty slow-ass board.

>>56222130
>homosister seething because she (male) got blown the absolute fuck out ITT
oh nyo

>>56222225
Maybe if you stopped thinking about cock 24/7 you'd learn to read these graphs right.

>>56220580
This argument sucks because #1 Marvel's extremely mainstream and have accumulated a massive amount of goodwill thanks to their earlier movies like Iron Man 1-3 and the Avengers. It takes time to fully deplete that goodwill.

And #2, pertaining to the point above, Marvel/Disney have been on a steep decline. If you think people these days would consume and praise anything with the Marvel logo on it, you might want to take a look at how secret invasion, m-powered, the eternals, and the latest Captain America TV show did. And those are just naming a few among many.

>>56220619
It's what I've been saying. People here are mostly closet #fags. They only get mad when the numbers don't fit their narratives. But they can just hide their hypocrisy due to the anonymity /here/.

>>56222279
I didn't say a word about cock. You brought it up out of nowhere and based on your projection I can only presume you think about cock 24/7.
>learn to read these graphs right
You can't gaslight me into reading the graph wrong, sister. Now please try to stop thinking about cocks for 5 seconds.

>>56220854
fagni and vestroon have left and the other 6 are crying about management not supporting their shitty projects anymore monetarily. nature is healing.

>>56222215
>only general that reaches 1000 posts on this shitty slow-ass board.
The only thread that actually does that is also the only thread that should exist and unfortunately the only reason this board was even created at all, Global.

>>56222836
>unfortunately
Get out.

>>56222501
>no u
Embarassing, try again closet homo

>>56222953
Catalogshitters don't get to pretend they belong.

>>56214005
>>56214188
>>56214313
MOST

Maimoto deflection thread

Itt cuckroniis seething

>>56222225
>Troon avatar fagging

Only trannies on /vt/, reddit, and twitter hate tempus. Everyone else just leaves them be like completely rational people.

>>56225357
Yeah, if you ignore "muh support the cause" and how the majority of tempiss fans on twitter are pronouns in bio subhumans then you're absolutely correct that only trannies hate the homos.

>>56214005
Aside from homos we get a lot of Holo vs Holo threads because of fuckers like them

>>56215079
Spoken like a true cave dweller.

>>56215344
VSPO CN might bring it back

>>56214005
Probably because they're aware the problem is catalog shitters who will just use different bait. It's a shame you're too stupid to realize that and keep eating whatever the schizos shovel at you. Actual retard.

>>56225588
You're both too stupid to being using this board. Catalog shitters love retards like you.

>>56214954
>Not smart enough to realize Catalog shitters will simply use something else if /#/ is gone.
Either you're impressively stupid or you're one of the faggots making bait threads.

>>56225671
So no arguments

>>56215727
>HOW did they take turn? Explain it to me. How are completely unrelated streamers with different handlers stopping main branch from debuting girls?
>PLEASE explain how homos are stopping them from debuting holos
That's what I would like to ask Omega, why the fuck did he consider that people were gonna accept the homos before a new girls gen??? He just saw that Luxiem was popular, "I HAVE TO FIGHT AGAINST MY RIVAL" and lost like the retard he is, because for some reason he thought that hololive really competed in the same market as niji, when the only thing they have in common is that they have people who stream with anime avatars. I would also like to know why he decided to throw away all the efforts of 2 years to the trash for trying to copy his rival, why he decided to play favorites with them and leave the girls aside, why he put so much effort into promoting HoloPro as a whole, and especially the way you responded to yourself, what's the point in not being able to debut another generation of girls just to give space to stars?? It sounds retarded, but it's even more retarded because it actually happened and the fucking retard has already been erased from history

>>56223042
On that, I can agree. You still need to leave.

>>56213677
retard

>>56213677
The graph actually get a lil' chuckle out of me.
For me the graph looks like starsen falling from the ceiling and hit holoen right on the head then fall alongside them.

What the number truly say is that if you make Gura happy then the numbers are happy. Anything that makes Gura unhappy should be removed from this earth.
Homos don't make gura happy so they should be mass graduated. It's as simple as that.

>>56228439
the graph is cherry picked nonsense
>the op is even an edit of the title saying its cherry picked
en returned to what it was getting post sana and offcollab month, then dies when the entire branch stops streaming. ina in jp, irys on break and then sick, everyone sick, everyone jp, etc.

>>56214452
>numbers go up when new gen drops
>tempus complete irrelevant
Look! It was tempus! Tempus did it! Tempus tempus tempus!

>>56229372
How's that not-suspension treating you, sister? 5 weeks, huh? Vesper now spent 10% of his entire career suspended which is quite the feat I might say.

>>56214005
>200 Advent bait threads in the catalog, all of them obviously astroturfed by seething nijicucks and other Hololive antis
>1 numberfag thread shitting on Tempiss?
>DELETE /NUMBERS/ MY POOR BOIZ PROTECT DA BOIZ
I'll take /#/ over /NijiEN/ and /MANS/ any day

>>56228975
Shark god of EN must be appeased or else she tanks the branch

https://encyclopediadramatica.online/Virtual_YouTubers

>>56230052
That's a good call