/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

has bat stamp and EN Curse+Spider cooking monopolized healing?

>>56140311
Ollie frame: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ocj2CHvlbLQ

I've returned to this game after a year and tried to get all achievements from a new file without looking anything up. Some of it went easy, like getting the level 100 achievement randomly on a coin farm run of endless stage 1 without glasses. But how the fuck do I get couch potato? Deadbeats keep getting in-between the attacks and stand too close for me to hit them and I can't last 2 minutes.

>>56141449
nonny a maxxed out shop and a gachi'd character turns this game into journalist mode. i did hardcore mode and couch potato with fauna

3 more days

>>56141449
Any character with good defense / self sustain is easy to get couch potato with.
I did it with solo stamp sora with piman. But you could easily do it with others like fauna, sana, choco and kiara

>>56142420
https://countingdownto.com/?c=4913214
2 days

>>56123778
>Is there some kind of limit that stops all the stickers from dropping or some shit?
Yes. I ran into it several times. Have too many stamps lying around at once and any remaining ones wont spawn in, even if you then get rid of them.
I think it might vary, since I could've sworn it was 5 or 6 but that wasn't the case in a run I did yesterday (albeit on a different stage). Just keep in mind that there are enough stamps to get 5 to lv3 with 1 left over, as of the last update. So fodder ones you really don't need into backups you might to save on memory.

>>56121311
Fix how? This shit gets on my tits too. I have the bloody wiki page on standby during every playtrhough now.

>>56141449
Fuuuuuuck I almost did it just now
Got super lucky with getting the bouncy ball and Ankimo with my first two levelups and then 11 minutes in with a collab anvil spawning right on top of me. I guess I'll have to put more coins into the armory because I don't see myself getting this lucky again in a while.

>>56143287
This is my armory btw

>>56143287
Imma say try it with a solo weapon build
Solo weapon = you get to build defensive items quickly, you get to build stats quickly. And soras weapon is strong enough to shred anything even without the solo stamp.

Try: Breastplate, Limiter, Bandage, PikiPiki, Body Pillow, Ubersheep/Membership

Stats: HP > Pickup (until 600 ish) > ATK > whatever
Thats probably enough bulk that you can stall till your special which makes you functionally immortal

>>56131077
>>56133108
Collabs are just a fun little extra idea Kay slapped on top of the arsenal, not a skeleton he built it around. New ones get added each update, sometimes with weapons that were both already there. The creative process is essentially "what Hololive memes can I fit in using the current arsenal?". If it's an actual unit like Micomet, that's just a bonus.

>>56137907
I have seen someone on Discord claiming to be one of the devs saying that 0.7 is [...] JP3(no Rushia), stars JP1
>stars JP1
Cap. I'll believe it when I fuckin' see it. Kay knows better than to add Stars whilst fans are still waiting on 3 waves of JP girls. Like Tempus 2 when everyone wanted EN3, it'd just get the boys hate.
The only way I could see it being legit is if he's saving a super secret Final Yab patch for the very end. CN, the 3 homos, Rushia & Aloe make 11, mirroring the launch roster.Hitomi Chris can be the SquareEnix superboss.

>>56141449
>>56143287
One word:
BEEG.

>>56143770
Delaying JP4 for stars1 would be absolutely idiotic and bundling a girl gen with a boy gen is doubly so and this is coming from someone who doesnt mind them and actually watches Roberu and Oga from time to time. This will probably be worse for the stars image overall as the nips will feel that 4th gen got slighted for the homos. And the backlash might be big enough that the homos wont even play the game on stream because of it.
Best case scenario for them is to just release the entire JP stars cast as its own patch like the ID girls, and bundle them with some major content patch (like a Halls of Torment mode) to satiate those that dont care about them (like Holohouse for the ID girls).

JP Gen 3 + 4 is big enough that you dont have to add major content for it.

>>56144081
The first line was meant to be greentexted too, I fucked up. I'm in full agreement with you.
>release the entire JP stars cast as its own patch like the ID girls
Ehhh, we'll see. The ideal roster update seems to be 9 and Holostars has been marketing itself as a core group of 9 for years now, so much so that they insist on always appending Uproar as a separate thing so that it doesn't fuck with the branding: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrK2WYaH0bM
Maybe throw in the 3 graduated Stars for a roster of 12, and Uproar comes the patch afterward with all of Tempus for another 12? That sounds like a tall order for the ginger stepchild branch, tho.

>>56144495
Compromise:
>0.9 - 9 Homostars
>1.0 - 8 Tempissers
>1.1 - Uproar + Advent
Good idea/bad idea?

0.7 will be a shitshow be it Rushia or the Stars, Holocure is fucked for the holomems

>>56144770
I was gonna say "just avoid Rushia onstream lmao" but then I remembered the gacha system jej. Awkward silences abound.
Imagine if we got one of those RANKUP RANKUP RANKUP neverending streaks for Rsuhia. On MARINE'S playthrough.

>>56143193
don't post suppositions without saying they're suppositions, you're going to get tourists internalizing bad info
there's no limit based on stamps present. it's random and scales with kills so you can influence it with halu.
to test this load up the trainer and set health to infintie and then go afk. come back at 18 minutes to see how many stamps are sitting idle.
hint: it's a lot.

>>56141449
Easiest way is Shion. You can still move around for a few seconds while during her ult to collect exp and boxes.

>>56144933
maybe they can just make a seperate banner. Call it the Hololegends banner and add Aloe, Rushia and Coco to it should've had sana there as well tbdesu but holocure released before her graduation.

>>56143604
Solo weapon is with the solo weapon badge. Havent been using normal weapons ever since I found that out.

>>56145233
solo weapons can be effective even without the solo stamp just because of the sheer amount of stats you get which is why I suggested it for a Couch Potato run.

Cover can be oddly spiteful at times, so it could go either way, but Coco being in that fighting game long after her graduation could get Rushia a spot despite her termination. I won't be surprised either way. although I do lean that it's unlikely. Given how he got guilted into changing Ina's cult because she's a thin skinned little bitch, there's not a lot he can do to keep Cover's favor if they encourage him not to do it and he does anyway, so I wouldn't hold one's breath. I think having her is better just because more characters and memoryholing is creepy, but it's not a hill to die on.

>>56145022
Just saying it happened pretty consistently. I'd leave 6 stamps laying around in Stage 2 Hard whilst waiting on the 1 I wanted and 20 minutes later (ON Halu) it still wouldn't show up. I'm speaking so confidently on it because I literally got a Silver Yagoo once or twice under those circumstances and he STILL dropped nothing.

>>56145440
>changing Ina's cult because she's a thin skinned little bitch
?

>>56145440
>Given how he got guilted into changing Ina's cult because she's a thin skinned little bitch
Who was getting upset over that? "Not a cult" is a recurring joke on Ina's stream and Takos are supposed to be collectively referred to as the Tentacult.

>>56145943
seems like you answered your own question

>>56144495
>3 graduated stars
>Suzaku checked out after 6 months barely having 5k subs when it was obvious he expected being the next Kuzuha
>Kaoru fired for "shady shit", and then did even more damage by using no-longer-his Kaoru identity for underground Beyblade tournaments
Kira should be in because he's one of the three Alumni, others being Sana(already in and also left for health reasons like Kira) and Coco(definitely will be in)
>>56144933
Exactly. Kay Yu won't want to put Holos in this situation, so he won't add Rushia.
On the other hand if you look at Idol Showdown, you can see that even Pekora was OK with Roberu in that game, even bantering about prices at his bar. Sure, Kanata and maybe Flare would skip the Holostars update, but neither is even playing the early access right now so it's not like they plan on making a lot of HoloCure content.

>>56146044
The beyblade thing was AFTER his release? That's new info to me.

>>56146044
Sana did not leave for health reasons, that had an injury months before her graduation that people memed into the ground.

>>56146217
He did a bunch of beyblade related things while he was still streaming, like the Beyblade ASMR that got retweeted by Kakara Tony, the creators of beyblade, and was the main source of his sudden sub count hike, but the tournament(and implied illegal gambling) thing was 2 months after.
>>56146320
I could be wrong, I haven't really watched much ENs until EN3.

>>56146044
>Kanata
streamed Holocure exactly once(June 28th 2022 so late 0.3)
>Flare
streamed it twice in July 2022(still late 0.3)
Other than playing the patch with their character, it's pretty safe to say they wouldn't lose much if the Stars patch is implemented later.

>>56143831
When I think about it I've spent more time playing as Sana in holocure than watching her streams

>>56143287
Ame is the easiest to Solo Weapon.
>Her base weapon is easy to aim and use now for the beginning
>Bubba grabs xp and helps with enemies
>Her special completely melts bosses
EZ game.

>>56146044
>Sana(already in and also left for health reasons

>>56145943
>Takos are supposed to be collectively referred to as the Tentacult
Tentacult are Fans, Takos are members.

>>56148026
In terms of people who actually like to stream holocure, its mainly just Gura, Sora, Lamy and the IDs. Others just ride it as a one and done fotm

>56138191
>Is it me or is Haachama pretty difficult to solo weapon challenge
It's just you. Start with Haachama, but then once the weapon is built up switch to Haato. Use the Projectile increase and/or attack speed stamp. Her attacks are incredibly powerful (since they lower defense by 30%, it acts like a free Gorilla paw) and rapidly hits enemies while pushing them back. You can just sit in place and most of the time enemies can't even touch you unless they spawn on top, even in Hard2. Even ones that spawn on top will die extremely quickly due to how hard and fast her weapon hits.
Akai Haato is one of my favorite to Solo weapon just because of how peaceful it is, you can get up to use the restroom or make a snack or both and you'll still be fine when you come back.

>>56148426
the fact you skipped over mumei tells us to ignore the rest of what you said.

>>56148477
Oops, forgot to double link to
>>56138191

>>56144770
I don't see why everyone thinks Rushia would be a problem. Yeah she was fired, but it's not like she was memory holed, and other holo's still bring her up from time to time. Personally think Aloe would be the bigger issue, because she shouldn't be added, but you just know people will bitch about it.

>>56148426
...Kaela?

this is a holocure thread you fucking braindead ass dramaniggers, do me a favor and please kill yourself

>>56140311
So if I get the Steam version do I lose my save?

>>56152165
no it will automatically transferred to your stream, according to Ollie

>>56152248
Thank god ive been playing constantly since day 1 and even if every update makes it easier to get coins and renders all the farming I did redundant It was still MINE

I just had this game crash on me for the first time ever. I'll take that as a sign to stop playing until the update

>>56143770
What kind of idiotic rrat is that jp3 (no Rushia) + holostars for 0.7 theory?
That's literally the one fucking way I could see holocure go negative in steam reviews while poisoning the game from ever getting streamed by literally anyone in holopro because of how big the fan backlash would be. That'd shoot the entire fucking project in the head and then some.
Seriously that rrat suggest holocure is going to step on multiple fucking minefields in the least elegant way possible.

>>56154664
you're mentally ill if you think there are enough anti-male vtuber watchers to move the needle on steam
i mean this with absolute sincerity and concern: please speak to a doctor about your emotional wellbeing.

>>56141449
Trivial with Mumei because Friend stil collects XP for you. I think other characters with companions work the same, but I did it with Mumei because of her pretty broken basic weapon and big attack/damage boost from her other passives.

>>56149596
>she shouldn't be added
Hitomi shouldn't be added.
Aloe's incident happened at such a different time & in such a different way that I frankly see less active downside to her than Rushia.

>>56151941
anonchama the roster's the draw for games like this for most people, speculation on it IS holocure discussion.

>>56148477
Haatonchama, does she get the goth outfit in this new update?
I was pretty disappointed she doesn't switch into it in Haachama mode, it feels like she was lacking in visual effects compared to every other character last patch.

>>56155734
The bigger thing with Aloe is that with so little streaming there is just nothing to reference with her, it would be another AZKi situation but worse.

>>56155087
TBF there are enough mentally ill fans that it's not worth tempting fate. At least, not for the "principle" of senpai's getting prioritized. FFS the game launched as half fuckin' Council, why start caring about who debuted first now?

>>56155962
Azki is explicitly why I think Aloe'd be fine lmao. She has a distinct & unique kit, not everything HAS to be a meme reference. "Flustered Succubus DJ" by itself is more than enough to brainstorm up 3 Skills and 2 weapons. Even before you factor in her Headphones and how to synergize a kit with them.

>>56155087
Anon...
It's not even just the anti male unicorns. It'd be the people pissed at Rushia getting excluded, it'd be the people mad that jp4 got pushed back.
Out of every fucking roster decision for the next update it would literally be the worst possible outside of pushing in tempus first.

>>56155913
>does she get the goth outfit in this new update?
Yes it is her gacha alternative outfit.
>I was pretty disappointed she doesn't switch into it in Haachama mode
It did feel like a missed opportunity, especially now with Moona’s special giving her a different design for the character she turns into during it.
However as I thought about it, it would be weird to handle as new alt costumes are unlocked for Haato every update. It is easy enough when she just has one or two, but what about when she has 3 or 5? Would Haachama form always just lock to the goth one? It is s bit different compared to the Moona special handling, since Haato and Haachama are both full kits.

>>56143411
You should only be doing achievements when fully maxxed out
Also, the only way to do couch potato is using Subaru

>>56157707
>Also, the only way to do couch potato is using Subaru
It is funny to do it with Subaru to just be immortal tanking hits and respawning but lots of others can do it just as easily on earlier stages.

>>56157707
Eh, upgrades are not necessity, but they definitely should be first focus.
As for couch potato, I did it with Roboco both on my old and new PC, so eh. You just need to itemize properly for challenge and character you are using.

>>56146785
>but the tournament(and implied illegal gambling) thing was 2 months after
That was another player trying to impersonate him. Your rrats are weak.

>>56156377
>Tempus out of nowhere
Seek god and improve your life.

>>56156377
>pushing in tempus first
Do it Kay. You coward.

>>56152540
I can't properly gachikoi anyone in this update and I hope That's a on my toaster having no storage and not my save being borked.

>>56155792
ok braindead dramanigger whatever you say, have you and all the dramaniggers in this thread consider the rope?

>>56158935
I'll kill God and improve myself with his ashes

>>56159937
conversation was fine, even with people disagreeing, until you started randomly calling people dramanigger. like, this general has general been very tame compared to the vt average. and then you happened.
maybe look in the mirror before posting again
thanks in advance

>>56159937
Hey now I think Rushia & Aloe'll most likely be in it, end-of. Where's the drama in statin that.

Is the steam version going to have steam achievements?

>>56145440
I don't want to rehash how Rushia and Coco are completely different situations because it's been done a million times, but looking just at Holocure

>Coco
2 items, 2 collabs devoted exclusively to her, which I'm pretty sure is more than any other holo and appears multiple times on the office TV. 99.9% confirmed.

>Russia
One possible item that is probably just refers to flat girls generally. One shared frame on the TV, which iirc was added before termination. Aloe currently has more representation. Seems unlikely, but we'll see.

>>56160940
Song on Stage 3 is "Halloween Night, Tonight!" which Rushia is part of and there is also her emblem on wall. It was added after her termination.

>>56149596
>Yeah she was fired, but it's not like she was memory holed
She kind of was though. No graduation stream and her channel was promptly deleted. Aloe's was left up for like a year iirc.

>>56160940
>One shared frame on the TV, which iirc was added before termination
Rushia was fired in February. The game was first mentioned in March, released in June, and didn't have the office level until September.

>>56159937
Stop being so dramatic.

>>56161410
Has it been that long? I thought she was still around when Holocure launched.

>>56161328
That's standard termination practice, memory holing implies a concerted effort to rewrite history like she never existed. Searching "Rushia" on the official Hololive channel still brings up all the hologra episodes & gameshow skits she was in.
Removing Zaion's name from a duet on Maririn's channel, THAT'S closer to memory holing. At any rate she'd be on a NG-topics list for members if it a big deal, and clearly isn't given how casual they are when she comes up.

>>56140449
AFAIK Horns is still considered the go to, except maybe for endless.

>>56141449
If you're still here then try Ame or Mumei. Bubba/Friend will gather xp for you.

What do you think the Casino will entail?

>>56162472
A coin drop sink, considering Pekora's past antics with game slot machines in Dragon Quest. Also a Holo Alternative reference.

>>56162472
Hopefully more than just gambling with holocoins, since generating money has never been an issue and gets even easier with every update. At minimum I assume we'll be able to win special cosmetics.

>>56162280
That's why I said kind of. I don't want to go any further down that rabbit hole ITT though.

>>56160940
There's also the Bounce Ball, that's two items

>>56140449
For solo weapon runs I normally just grab bandaid outside of a few characters that get bonuses from healing, since you end up with such a high base hp that the percentage healing ends up very high and very consistent.

>>56160504
Yes

>>56162472
I wonder if it will actually allow gambling considering the laws against it in vidya now that the game is going to be on steam.

>>56165152
Is that a problem if it's not tied to microtransactions or directed at children (like Pokemon games that had slots removed in remakes)?

>>56165152
Last I heard the laws were about actual money. It's a free game.

>>56165152
Would that matter if real money isn't a part of the equation at all?

>>56162311
>>56165056
For me its just that theres so many other items I want, I'd rather just offload healing to one of my collab or stamp slots

Is HP the most important stat to level for Endless mode?

>>56166451
I think some people outrun the yags, idk. i havent made it past 30:05 since the old ina nerf

>>56166451
Usually, but it can vary based on character. The strategy I used to hit 40 with Bae last night cares more about haste and speed, though you still need 300-400 HP.

>>56165740
That's the reason I was using life steal in the Bae strategy, but against regular enemies in stage mode Horns makes you basically invincible

>>56166832
That's semi viable, yeah. I would often do that during Irys farming, just hold direction and shot back at Yagoos to generate gold, no thinking required.

Do slow sticker and broken dreams stack with each other?

Design Fuwamoco in the game without making it a swapping gimmick.

he's just like me...

>>56167263
If I remember right slow effects are weird in that some stack together but others don't and theres no easy way to tell which

It's been a hellish week of avoiding streams, and there's still 2 days to go...

meta progression is so fun...until you max out everything... the game is too easy now

>>56167336
I do not like the hat chama swapping gimmick so I'd prefer if he didnt do that anyway.

>building a new pc completely on my own for the first time
>despair the entire day because I've no clue where to plug the cables to motherboard and from psu
Can I make it in time for the new update? I have my save file backed up

>>56169675
24pin(power for motherboard and some other small bits) goes into the 24pin socket
4pin(CPU power, sometimes 4+4pin for some high-end ones) goes to the 4(or 8) pin socket
every other power cable coming out of the power supply goes to something else
6pin(sometimes 6+2pin) goes to the graphics card(if you have one and it needs them)
the flat one goes to harddrives or SSDs
even if both GPU are 6+2 and CPU are 4+4 you physically cannot push them into each other's holes because some pins aren't square(they have one corner filled in)

>>56169675
I'm surprised there are people who have trouble building a PC nowadays.
Also, go ask /pcbg/ on /g/.

>>56169675
Read the fucking manuals you dumbass

>>56167336
Two separate entities, both of them are active at all times. The inactive one follows the one you control and attacks behind you. They each have their own built in weapon with separate sets of stickers. Kind of like Popo and Nana in Smash.

>>56168818
and he has no plans to provide a challenge for when you do engage with the progression as designed, because he doesn't want to "gatekeep" and that it "wouldn't be interesting"
yikes

I'm watching Holocure first time in a long time. When I played last time I grinded (Mumei, stage 2 with something like Halu, Piggy Bank, SCT and others) enough gold for all upgrades and I unlocked all characters. I only upgraded Council cause of Mumei.
Has there been a lot of updates since the time I played? I see that now you can aim with the mouse, any other big changes besides Gen 1 and Gen 2 releases?

>>56172873
Just ramp up the difficulty to a stage that requires 10x damage and move speed levels, would be good enough. I know this is supposed to be more casual but the maxed progression makes every run feel the same

>>56173857
Stamps, enchantments, achievements
I dont really know what they added each update, last time I played was when they added office and level 1 hard mode

NO FUWAWA MOCOCO WILL NEVER PET BUBBA IT WILL KILL THE RUN

>>56174028
>Stamps, enchantments, achievements
Thanks, that's what I was looking for.
Oke, I'm retarded, I should probably checked here first before asking https://holocure.fandom.com/wiki/Changelog
I thought it would have much more changes, maybe I didn't play that long after all.

AAAHH I WANT TO PLAY THE FULL VERSION ALREADY!

>>56174385
ver 1.0 still years away anon.

Ame's basic weapon really sucks, huh?

>>56174668
Bubba is the basic weapon.

>>56174668
Alot of EN being the earliest characters really shows

>>56174776
Remember when Mori's scythe had a blindspot?

>>56174968
I havent played her in so long i thought she still had it to be honest

>>56172873
You cry to the dev on twitter, were ignored and keep crying here instead. Jezas, get a grip dude.

Has anyone played Kronii onstream in the current version yet?

>>56175661
i haven't posted on twitter since november? ish?
you sound like a bitch too dumb for this game if you care this much keeping it easy. have you considered visual novels? might be more your thing.

>>56152450
Well imagine the backlash if people could not load their save files to the steam update...

>>56174668
I'll take it over Gura's.

>>56174295
>>56174028
Fandom rank and Eliminations are pretty big too.

>>56175661
What about what he said was wrong? Are you the kind of braindamaged that needs a trainer for this game? I can't imagine being this assmad people want optional difficulty.

>>56176224
>I can't imagine being this assmad people want optional difficulty.
The game has that already, refund upgrades in the shop. Many are just flat percentage bonuses and modifiers, so you can just turn them down and they won't impact gameplay other than making you weaker. They refund for the same price you pay too so there isn't even real coin price to do so.
When you are fully powered up, you are powerful. It makes sense.

it seems hard to believe there are people who find this game too hard, but especially on 4chan, where people have more free time than sense

>>56176217
Thanks, I'm probably gonna read all the updates since 0.4 release after the Fuwamoco stream.

>>56174668
>>56174776
i'm surprised she didn't get any kind of remake for this patch. her kit is white bread braindead even compared to the rest of myth.
my best guess is he wanted to keep one of the starter characters overly simple to on-ramp non-gamers a bit.

>>56174668
Fuwamoco in a new save were melting the bosses really easy with it and the awaken looks a more reliable aoe attack that the past version.

i just got my hands on the patch with broken IRyS
can anyone tell me the best build for coin farming

>>56176908
It's changing in approx. 31 hours so just sit tight until then...

>>56176908
Limit weapons to 1, you just want your basic
Halu + Superchat + Headphones, the rest up to you but building defensive is better
Skull + Solo stamps mandatory, I always pick up Pekora as third but dunno if it's the most optimal, I just like AoE it gives
0.6 will make farming easier tho, no real reason to bother now unless you are just bored and want to prepare.

>>56177206
this reads like someone was on reddit the day .5 dropped and then never bothered to learn how it actually works. half of this is wrong.

can i get an accurate tier list of the characters so far

>>56177280
no

>>56176908
qrd on this if you don't mind, this is the first time I'm watching in a while and Fuwamoco will not get far this stream

>>56176908
Coins are even easier in the next patch anyway.
But for Irys, just grab the greed stamp, superchatto time and turn on the weapon block so you only have the main weapon and max marketing for more fans.
For max coin farming, you might want to avoid your weapon doing too much damage. So avoid damage multipliers, since coins are per hit with the current stamp.
Grab Halu of course for even more spawns.
>>56177206
>Solo stamps
Solo stamp isn't a great idea if you just want as many coins per run as possible.

>>56177346
wrong reply, ignore this post

>>56176908
Greed Stamp, Halu, and Supachat are the only absolutely mandatory things, but stack haste and use solo weapon from the shop.

>>56174668
??? It does really good damage and when used with the special will basically melt every boss in the game so far besides Nodoka and A-chan who are immune to the slowdown effect.

>>56177206
>Limit weapons to 1
rly? I limitted my collabs to 2 and it felt like I was cutting it close. I limit it to 3 collabs (4 weapon slots), piggy bank, glasses, halu, chatto, credit card, and whatever shows up first between limited/milk/kaela glasses for 1.6 endless. You can get healing from the curse/cooking collab or bat stamp (really only needed for stage 5 boss and the yagoos)

>>56177280
All I can say is Kiara, Aki, and Shion are not fun to play. And this is coming from someone who loved how absolutely busted Aki was in Idol Showdown so I really wanted to like her in this game.

>>56177358
>Coins are even easier in the next patch anyway.
Yeah, once someone posted the 10 minute rate of gold for fishing on the best rod I lost any motivation I had to keep doing Irys runs KEK. Im in no rush to G21 the new characters though, I havent even gachi'd the current roster yet aside from about 5 characters

>>56177514
you limit to solo because you want to do as many hits with her main weapon while doing as little actual damage as possible
you're maximizing hits within a fixed amount of enemy health for the most coins.
.5 irys is so broken she can minimize damage while maxing haste/coins and still beat all content in the game. endless greedrys runs go over half an hour.

>>56177514
You limit weapons to 1 so that collabs don't kill the enemies you're trying to farm with greed. Pick up solo stamp or play on 1h if dying is a problem.

>>56177514
>All I can say is Kiara, Aki, and Shion are not fun to play.
Shion and the lack of synergy between abilities and her not so well tought special and Aki and the lack of control on the weapon is understable, but what is the problem with Kiara? Apart of being hands down easy?

>>56177772
I dont like the characters you're supposed to continuously move with

Mococo is carrying a Super Glove and Dragon Fire right now, incoming moment of truth regarding Super Item + Weapon SSCollabs

>>56177864
They need to reach level 50 yet.

>>56177864
>>56178073
Don't you also need a second collab to get the hammer to spawn, or was that just speculation?

>>56178073
>level 43
>need to get and max level two weapons (there's only one collab they can build with each of them and ironically both match the other item in Dragon Fire)
>17 minutes in
nevermind
>>56178630
Going off its fairly consistent spawning behavior with the second collab it seems plausible enough

>>56178739
The hammer spawned!!!

>>56178934
FUWAMOCO
I KNEEL
TWO-COLLAB MECHANIC BTFO

narrowly

I KNEEL FUWAMOCO

>>56179040
Is it any different with a Super Paw?

>>56179103
Nope, has the same 1.3 multiplier as normal paw, so the only long term benefit is the levels saved

>>56179103
Nope

Seeing Ina just hop into a damage build is so refreshing.

Did Spiderchaama always have that screech when activating her bullet patterns?

>chat is still insisting that IRyS is the money maker
I was hoping this retardation would only last a day or two before people understood the stamp was adjusted and IRyS isn't even the best option for coin farming anymore.

>>56179191
>>56179211
Good to know.
Although holy heck, am I reading it right that Holy Fire buffs the damage of even your other attacks by 1.3? That is pretty outstanding.
These super collabs are really super.

Well I want to get the Steam version but can I transfer my save file from the itch.io version to it? I really don't wanna grind everything again from square 1.

>>56179842
Steam version uses the same save file it should be fine

>>56179699
>Superchat saying Irys was top coin farmer
>Another guy so triggered he donates correction

I dunno if thats cringe or admirable

>>56179985
they're both incredibly cringe.

how much coin do these coinmaking strats make?
is it much more than beating the current-access hardest stage?
i get something like 25-30k every 20mins.
also is afk farming even possible?

What triggers me is chat begging for 10 pulls when Fuwamoco is just trying to unlock everyone and 10 pulls dont add anything as a bonus. Its just there to make G Rank leveling easier

>>56179699
Nah, most people will cling to the old meta until they play the game and shift over to Reine or a different heavy-hitter of choice

and the "heavy hitter of choice" is a fishing rod.

>>56180307
Yeah, that mogs the fuck out of the fan ranch.

>>56180124
Current patch? I make about 100k on a regular run with Irys without even trying, on endless you can make much more.

>>56180124
Coin farming builds in 0.6 easily make over 100k per stage clear with any character. Reine can easily push 150k if you're good about using her special and you're on a map with a lot of swarms. There's also fishing which is substantially better than anything else but I would not be surprised if it's nerfed for the release build.

Afk farming is technically possible but you have to play for a few minutes to set it up first and you'd probably need an auto clicker or something to select options on level ups.

Am I doing good?

>>56180124
.6 will have an AFK money farm, but it seems to take a lot of set up before it's profitable.

>>56181555
Guess not

>>56181555
You're going to die at 2:30 or 3:00 with that speed.

>>56181702
Lamy Water with +Size is a relly good choice for Yagoo. It stuns and almost reaches the edge of the screen.

Ruffians are dumb bastards.

>>56182297
Probably a lot of people who never even played the game spamming on the chat. Yesterday there were a bunch telling bijou to get wamy water all the fucking time for some reason.

>>56182474
when I play melee characters I like the screenwide ones that dont push enemies away like wamy bomb, flattening board, and mikomet

>>56181702
you guys told me you dont need collabs to survive the yagos?

Ina did snow queen collab: Ice flower sake+sake.

>>56182661
fuck ina

>>56182474
Wamy Water's stun actually is really good.

>2H endless with Choco
>Nodoka just spawned
>Worried because none of the stickers I want have dropped
>Nodoka pops, stage ends
>I selected stage mode like a retard

oh shit just remembered there are other ways to play other than having zero other main weapons. ive been failing to pitter patter with akai haato.
i swear i can make this work.. just a few more knockback weapons... and i can pitter patter an afk build

Milk with Ina?

Watching the holohouse for the first time in Ina stream, the fucker of Kay Yu found a way to add another layer of power creep.

Had to pause because my oshi is starting streaming HC. I'm happy with this run so far.

>>56187517
Unpause so you can play together.

>>56182596
he fell for the bait KEK

>>56168818
its the issue with VSlike games in general, max the upgrades/use op weapons and difficulty disappears
even the harder ones like halls of torment becomes cakewalk past the initial struggle at low upgrades
>>56172873
he doesn't want new content only doable with G20+gachikoi+full upgrades for average players
i want to see something like hades heat/StS ancensions for people who want harder difficulty since halu5 is far from enough

>>56188704
pretty sure the guy >>56175661 is stalking like a creepy bitch also suggested heat by name which is 100% a good idea, if the replies to kay's tweets on the issue are any indicator

>>56182297
they're watching two grown-ass women say BAU BAU and make stupid yappy dog noises every 30 seconds. the intellect of that kind of viewer was never in question.

btw, where do i can see the credits?

>>56188704
20mtd gave me some challenge when new updates came. Helps that meta progression isnt just directly buffing stats.

So Ina beat Stage 3 hardmode, which is pretty impressive. I haven't seen if any of the other holos have done so yet, I remember koyo died to smoll myth

I know I'm just hurting myself by thinking about it but I want nepolabo in this game so goddamn bad

>>56192406
didn't kaela beat it too?

>>56193166
2025 maybe

>>56193166
They'll probably be added around this time next year

>>56193268
kaela is gay

>>56193348
this would line up really nicely with their anniversaries. it is my wife's anniversary very soon

>>56194357
so are (You) apparently.

>>56193166
>Debut almost simultaneously with Myth
>Passed over for all of EN and ID
>JP 3 still not in
Must be rough. The forgotten gen.

>>56195054
only for holocure desu, they just had an amazing concert and are all very popular and successful. i don't take any issue with the order girls have gotten added in, i'm just impatient to play my faves

>>56195054
Botan and Polka are some of the most popular vtubers period.

>>56194432
Isn't it already today in JST?

Idol concert sounds like it will be fun with specials designed to be spammable like Haachama's.

Is it releasing at the same time all around the world or do certain timezones get it earlier?

I kinda wanna make a list of all the holos not added yet and sort it by highest playtime. Who do you think would be at the top?

>>56198009
Polkers probably

>>56198009
Lamy or Polka. Lany plays it even offstream iirc

>>56198009
>>56198290
gotta be wamy but i bet polka's up there

>>56193166
Look on the bright side anon, you may have to wait a bit, but the dev's oshi are Pekora and Polka, so you can at least be sure when NePoLaBo are out, they'll be great

So will the release happen at midnight tonight or later tomorrow?

>Anya has a skill based entirely around standing still
>None of the girls stay still for more than 2 seconds

>>56199380
There is literally a countdown for the release.
https://countingdownto.com/?c=4913214

What collab was Nerissa using? I missed before she had it. Some lightning sausage?

>>56201124
asacoco + sausage

>>56193326
Sorry, Chud, but that update is reserved for Holo 5

>>56176908
Single item with greed, explosions, and either multi-shot or haste.
Explosions will trigger greed and multi-shot and haste make you shoot faster so whichever you like more/get first.
halu and superchat at least. glasses for more exp(levels), piggy bank for more money(since you are moving all the time). I usually use bandage and headphones as my defense items.
You can get 2-300k if you get greed early.

But like everyone has said it sounds like there are going to be MORE money options. I think everyone, like me, feared they were going to take away money farming options instead of add more.

>>56194973
sorry loser but its the truth. kaela likes girls

>>56201177
Thanks. It was pretty good, or flashy at least. I usually pick the same several collabs but will have to change things up with the super collab

I saw some anons here posting about an Azki rework. Why? She has my favorite kit in the game.. Maybe there's hope of alternative kits in the future or something?

>>56202172
Maybe in the form of buffs? Like them choosing to make Mumei even stronger by giving her a heal. I noticed Ina's stuff was different too.

It was kinda disheartening to find out the best build for most characters looked pretty much the same. I hope the best items were debuffed so that a high level of play requires making use of each girl's unique qualities.

>>56202172
Probably to reference her more directly as a streamer now that she has become more popular?

>>56201984
and how is that relevant to Ina beating stage 3 hard mode?

>>56201531
That build will no longer work in the Patch 0.6. Greed stamp is reworked and now the coin proc is dependant of the damage done.
For farmers Reine seems the obvious choose considering her special and her high CRIT build. Not that really matters, considering that the Holohouse's fish mini game is a much better way of obtain coins.

RoboCure:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o0CHi9ugCw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o0CHi9ugCw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o0CHi9ugCw

>>56205041
I feel like Bae is going to be top dog with her 4x crits. She melts Yagoos at 30 minutes and still kills them fairly quickly at 40, which is about the point I couldn't outrun them anymore last night. If we get one collab that can slot in and provide healing so she doesn't need life steal sticker she's golden. Maybe you could even get away with dropping stun sticker.

>>56205041
It was aimed at someone playing before the patch. I am still holding out that IRyS can still make bank since max upgrades IRyS does 100+ on crits so it all depends on how greed works now. If greed lets more of them farm money that'll be nice. It doesn't really matter though. I have enough that I might not have to farm coin since I'll be fishing.

>>56207728
Has anyone picked Bae in the sneak peak streams yet? Wanted to see if she changed at all.

Kiara:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsneBgDq7RM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsneBgDq7RM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsneBgDq7RM

I wish Bubba/Ankimo/Friend would pick up food.

what time is it going to be on steam though?

someone made a Henya mod for Holocure
https://twitter.com/NewAnhDNH/status/1691680667917300018

>1 more day
aaaaaaaaaaa

>>56212264
i dont know who this is outside of she collabed with ina so im guessing she has some big pl shit that people care about

>>56212264
I wonder if we’ll get workshop support in the future.
Dont really wanna do any big mods, but tweaking some numbers to my liking would be fun

>>56212347
stop getting excited

>>56212583
I wanted to ask about that to the devs on twitter, but I also feel outright workshop support would change its identity from "Hololive garliclike fangame" to "that one free garliclike that has big workshop support" .
I at least feel that mods should be usable without replacing the whole file where all the game data is stored in

>>56191062
main menu

>>56212398
Someone just really likes her.
As a friend, of course.

Does NANASHI MUMEI have the worst special in the game?!?!?!

has there been any notable character buffs/nerfs?
this is so strange im not normally this hyped up for any game in this day and age

>>56213916
DIDNT HAPPEN WITH RIVALS!

>>56202172
What >>56203385 said. Kay Yu based her kit around the simple fact that she was the token singer & archetypal idol, since her unique position in Hololive didn't involve a lot of streaming or create any viral in-jokes & memes.
When her original VSinger contract expired over a year ago she was given the option of either graduating or fully transferring over to Hololive-proper as a streamer. She chose the latter, got (another) redesign & has carved a niche as the Geoguesser chuuba since.
Kay Yu mentioned in his Koe interview that it doesn't sit right with him that her design process didn't get the attention to detail as everyone else - albeit out of necessity - so now that he actually has something to work with he wants to rectify that.
TBPH this almost-definitely plays into why Mumei got a slight rework this patch too. He said somewhere around release time (Reddit AMA maybe?) that he simply didn't watch Mumei or know much of anything about her, hence 2 of her Skills being based on her lore description.

>>56206292
yaaaaay
>>56211477
You really, really don't lmao.

>>56215560
Apparently it got changed this update.

>>56215811
London?

>>56215560
It no longer deletes XP and now gives 1% haste per killed enemy for 10 seconds in the new update

Is there a “quick start list” or something so I can see all the new stuff when the patch comes out?
Like, new collabs, new fandom rank stuff (if it got updated), how to unlock new items, stuff like that
Has anyone been keeping notes during the early access streams?

>>56215576
I mean, it's a beefed up Vampire Survivors clone with actually unique characters, interesting desing, very good music and nice art style if you look at it from the perspective of someone who has never even heard of Hololive. This is unironically the only game I'm looking forward for now, maybe Elden Ring dlc could be interesting as well but that's it.

>>56216222
ITEMS:
New Weapon:
- Sausage (complete Stage 4)
New Items:
- Ninja Bandana (Ollie 10 min)
- Sweet Kingdom Candy
- Researcher's Coat
- Beetle
- Focus Glasses (Zeta 10 min)
New Collabs
- EN Curse + Bounce Ball = Curse Ball
- Sausage + Plug-in Type Asacoco = Lightning Wiener
- Sausage + BL Book = Subaru Sausage
- Psycho Axe + Idol Song = Crescent Bardiche
New Super Collabs
- Snow Flower Sake + Sake = Ice Queen
- Dragon Breath + Gorilla Hand = Holy Fire
- Idol Concert + Idol Costume = Idol Live
- Elite Cooking + Uber Sheep = Jingisukan

Fandom reworked to be XP system
- 7XP per normal stage (doubled for first clear)
- 10XP per hard stage (doubled for first clear)
- 2XP per G.Rank (max 21 ranks count)
Gachikoi is between 98 and 118 XP.

Bunch of stamps added, some reworked (most notably Greed which now scales with damage).

HoloHouse unlocks after completing Stage 1 for the first time. Fishing seems to be new true money maker.

>>56215560
It WAS good at one point because it let you wipe out all the offscreen enemies during large waves and still get the XP before Greed, one-weapon, etc got added and buffed other holos way above Mumei.

I genuinely can't fathom how you can do couch potato even with Sana or Subaru. How do you deal with Fubuzilla or the big subatomo or any of the final bosses while standing still? Even in time attack the bosses drop on you and even shoot bullets at you.

>>56220039
There are a lot defensive items that can just repel any damage came from them, they are just not a threat after you max everything

>>56220039
Sana felt impossible for me, Fauna was much easier

>steam release is 10am in indoland
>its independence day means off day
I need to be awake 10am on my precious off day, because of pixel art game. what have you done kay

>>56220039
Easy mode would be chicken feather.
If not then a bunch of specials have invuln / super heal baked into them.

>>56215755
>TBPH this almost-definitely plays into why Mumei got a slight rework this patch too. He said somewhere around release time (Reddit AMA maybe?) that he simply didn't watch Mumei or know much of anything about her, hence 2 of her Skills being based on her lore description.
In that same segment he also brought up Mumei would be getting a bit of a rework as well for the same reason.

>>56220039
>>56220218
I've done it with sana, and I always saved the special for when the boss came. It was stage 1 and I never try it on the latter stage.

just fucked up a 100k+ sora run
>forgot to press x, got distracted
is SCT a meme? i feel like Greed stamp sucks too.. only halu makes a difference 40k after 30 mins

>>56221603
Ironically enough i forgor.

>>56177280
I feel like only the top and the bottom matter because the rest is pretty much the same.
Aside from irys being broken, a good contender for top tier is bae.
As for the bottom tier its either Shion or Matsuri or at least i feel them being really bad

>>56199653
Yeah, feels like they either use it only for healing or not at all.

>>56199653
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5wbtWsPoZU

>>56225630
If you don't play with Anya's control set up, you didn't beat Holocure.

>>56225630
japanese reps has gone too far

https://youtu.be/MekNrqPd7i4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KouE7vfolBI
>0.4 in thumbnail
PONCAT

>>56226283
The day Coco is finally playable is when i spend all my GRanks on her
going to blow my load on her if you catch my drift

>>56226901
>its been 2 years
>Time to ugly cry like im in One Piece

>>56146320
I mean her health did probably play a part in it, even if she didn't like to say it. Back injuries are one of those things that never totally heal, and hers was apparently bad enough she wasn't even sure she would recover at all. Even if it healed enough that she could get up and move around a bit, it probably still limited what she could do, and meant that she COULDN'T double-dip like Ina. She clearly wasn't going anywhere with Hololive, and things like 3D were probably going to be difficult if not impossible for her, so she dropped out and went back to focusing on her art.

>>56228405
Nope, she was perfectly fine and healthy.

>>56228405
Sorry bro, she was perfectly fine, she just wanted to draw freely and play gachas. Vtubing was more of a commitment than she expected it to be ("I have to practice singing and dancing and stuff instead of just streaming for a few hours every couple of days?")

>>56223144
Irys is what makes greed stamp and superchat worth it, especially with the halu enemy density

>>56229223
except no, she's just the best at it. there are plenty of low damage, high hits-per-second characters that produce much higher coins per hour with greed setups than conventional coin-focused builds. she is best, not singular. not that it will matter in 14 hours, though.

>>56229415
I should try Korone gold run for fun now, I remember she goes hard with her ora ora.

>>56229223
Remember before greed stamp when 20k coins was an eye popping high number? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

Kiara stream up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsneBgDq7RM
Luna stream up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FS_noi9Uq8

>>56228405
Such a damn waste of a slot. And she was my council oshi at the start too.
At least holocure sana is fun to play

>>56231385
I’m sorry for your loss anon.

Zeta streaming rn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KouE7vfolBI

>>56206292
Roboco...
She understands the game but can't stop facetanking the enemies.

Anyone knows if the achievements will transfer to Steam? Or will I have to play from the start to get the ones I already unlocked on my main save?

>isn't taking Data Collection or Cat(?) Reflexes
fucking bratty little cat is begging for the rape___ correction

>>56236212
watching her play triggers me in ways i can't explain

>>56236212
>trashy Isekai enjoyer too
Can't be corrected anymore, too broken.

Anyone got a time machine? My bottle of liquid time travel is empty and I tilted out of Tarkov...

>>56235336
Yes and no, steam has a limit of 100 achievements for new games and Holocure already had more than that, but the ones that they've implemented should unlock automatically if you had them already and they're planning on adding the rest later and will still be tracked in game in the meantime

>>56229655
>tfw death by furniture
It was going well too, shame.

damnit luna play the goddamn stage already

>>56240152
wdym, she is playing stage... HoloHouse stage but still

>>56238382
Sweet, thanks.

>>56239717
Pretty sure you would have reached Yagoo with Horns over bandage.

>Game unlocks at 11pm on a weeknight
What did Kay-Yu mean by this?

>>56240582
I would have reached regardless if I didn't get stuck on something in that chaos. I can try with horns this time but I don't expect much of a difference.

>>56240787
like all hard workers, the dude is the most boring person ever; he literally Creates Things and nothing else. he doesn't perceive leisure or time like the rest of us do.

>>56239717
what stamps did you have here?

>>56241342
Greed/Peko/Lifesteal

>>56240787
The Indonesian Independence Day or something. Bending the knee to the SeaNogs. The past releases were launched in Friday.

Luna is doing RTA on getting golden rod

>>56241268
>he doesn't perceive leisure or time like the rest of us do
(You) mean like all the NEET in here do??

>>56242663
most people on 4chan are regular people who want for an outlet that allows them to speak their mind.
regular people don't work hard, they just work.
kay is not regular people.

>>56242564(me)
aand she did it, not counting all side stuff she did it takes around 3 hours of fishing to get golden rod

Do you think NL will play this game when it gets added to Steam?

>>56243006
On one hand, it'll stop him from falling back on dles and sap. On the other, he's very much NOT into anime stuff, is he?

>>56243006
Hopefully not. Vtubing is already suffering from its lack of gatekeeping. The last thing we need is a Horde of Twitch trannies and normies flooding in because Asmongold did a react video.

>>56243813
>vtubing lacks gatekeeping
>literally no hobby on the internet has creepy cult-like wagon circling and it's not close
my dude this isn't reddit where you post random shit and nobody questions it because they're ignorant.

>>56234171
She is a special type of high spec.