/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Gura replacement

>>56169450
Now we’re moomin with gas!

>>56169450
cucking your highschool boyfriend is key apparently

>>56169450
by actually liking her fans unlike Fauna and Kronii

Idk but probably cus she moomin

apparently people like retarded chuuba a lot

>>56169450
Idiot. Moom always has been the most popular in council

Look at her competition
>Sana is dead
>Kronii lied to and spat on her fanbase
>Bae was a homobeggar from the start
>Fauna was good but unironically let the mask slip
It's pretty telling how shitty Council is, when Mumei, who would be gone for months at a time, can get #1

Google Mumeixxx
That caused Mumei's sudden abnormal growth even when she was not streaming at all

Autism buff.

>>56169450
Nanomoomins, son.

>>56169450
>least popular
that was Sana

>>56169450
Are her streams entertaining if you mostly enjoy CGDCT? I've ignored Council since their debut and I'm starting to wonder if I was being unfair.

Mumeixxx popularity explosion
People subbed to Mumei thinking its that girl
There was even people in chat asking about it multiple times

>>56169802
>that was Sana
Only after she died

>>56169450
She mooms, that's the secret

>>56169505
>>56169591
>>56169688
>>56170016
what the fuck is moom?? what the fuck does that mean????

>>56169752
>>56169943
What the fuck
That actually makes sense. No wonder she started growing a lot out of nowhere

What? Mumei was never the least popular, she was almost second right after Kronii.
>>56169813
Mumei's strength is mostly being a cute sperg. Her best content is her karaokes. I tend to prefer her chatting streams over her gaming streams ( but people's preferences may differ. I will say she's vastly improved as a streamer since debut, her streams near debut were a complete disaster.
>>56169943
>>56169752
>>56170086
Can you point out a single person that did this? I've never seen any comments anywhere about it, this is entirely a theory that was baked in /#/ but you'd have to be a retard to confused a flesh tiktokker with a anime girl streamer with a different voice.

>>56170082

>>56169813
She's the best EN for cute stuff, but she's also the most anxious and agitated. Some viewers are put off by that.

>>56169450
She unironically, unforcedly, genuinely likes what she does and loves hoomans. If she didn't have civilization duties and health breaks she'd be even higher.

>>56170187
NTA but you really REALLY underestimate the level of stupidity of the avarege person that browses tiktok anon
I can see this happening easily

>>56169813
She's pretty bratty in a cute way. She has owltistic mannerisms that bother some and others adore. She can also sing.

>>56170187
retarded and horny teenagers are stronger than you thought anon

>>56170187
I'm not really a fan of gaming streams unless something funny happens, I'll check out her karaokes and zatsus.

>>56170265
Is she anxious and agitated in a cute way or in a depressing way?

>>56169450
Cute, doesn't hate her fans (or at least hides it well). It's really that easy. Too bad none of her genmates could pull it off.

>>56170187
>confused a flesh tiktokker with a anime girl streamer
But its a japanese woman

>>56170417
Cute way, she doesn't do the Kronii brand of doompost unless she's trolling someone.

she mooms

also number friends should neck themselves

>>56170187
there's stacks of examples of stock prices hugely swinging due to name confusions. or similarities. People are that retarded.

>>56169813
I would say so. Council in general(and more specifically Mumei/Fauna/Bae) are really strong in collabs in regards to staple CGDCT content. I know people don't like Bae for obvious reasons, but she's really fun in holo-only content. MuBae collabs are always fun.
Here's also a small short of Mumei learning how to dance to brighten your day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85O9AhTbvak

>>56169450
hoomans delusional as usual when she's been only relevant thanks to garbage collecting viewer raids from advent...

>>56170284
>>56170366
Eh, I guess it's possible but it feels easier to conclude that because her growth started picking up around Holofes, it's just JP fans becoming more aware of her around that time and because of that spurt, the algo started favoring her. Her growth did slow down a few weeks ago but picked up again with the Advent tourists which is when she shot above Kronii.

>56170941
seethe

>>56169702
>>56169558
Fauna did nothing wrong

>>56169450
Mumei was never below second place.
>>56169752
>>56170284
>>56170366
>>56170441
>>56170973
This has been gone over countless times. The TikTok girl spells Mumei with different characters, no one would be able to confuse the two.
Mumei was top 10 in Hololive subscriber growth before HoloX came out, and stayed pretty high up there until around May 2022, picked up again leading up to Holofes, with another bump from Connect the World and now Advent. Safe to say that anything that puts EN in the spotlight just disproportionately affects her.

>Genmates praise her to no end
>Council's best singer
>Holotori buff
>Retarded little sister experience
>Slightly parasocial to Hoomans
>Mastered the art of gap moe
All according to plan.

>>56169450
By being better on the long run. It happened to Pomu too, she was the lowest compared to Elira and Finana, now she's the most subscribed.

Simply put, from all of EN, Mumei has the most grounded and plain core design, as long as you don't notice her mile long hair, but it gives her volume

>>56171938
ame?

>>56171209
she's done plenty wrong, i still think she's a good streamer but you're kidding yourself if you think her image hasn't been damaged
the fact that pippa likes her should tell you everything

>>56169450
Shes a virgin (or at least spiritually innocent)

>>56172246
>Pippa likes her, definitive proof
Fuck off, she likes Watame also.

>>56172246
>plenty wrong
Name 3 but it can't be about friends. Should be easy if there is plenty.

>>56170924
>I know people don't like Bae for obvious reasons
What are the reasons she's hated so much? 99% of the time I just stick to my splits and don't check the catalog/Hololive global. I've always been fairly neutral on Bae but I respect that she always seems to be streaming with few hiatuses or breaks or anything. Is it just the "super high energy zoomer" and "collabs with males" thing or are there other reasons she's hated?

>>56172252
LOL
LMAO

>>56172795
It’s true though, I just checked.

>>56172620
It's mostly the males stuff, with a side serving of the zoomer stuff. Even then I don't think she's really hated that much, but there's some vocal Bae antis in the catalog and in certain generals.

>>56172620
She played genital jousting. What a fag

>>56169688
Nah that was Kronii by a fucking long shot. Kroni was supposed to be Gura lite with how fast she was blowing up and then she got feelings hurt. Stopped doing tts and voice request because she felt it wasn’t “her”. The tempus stuff came after

>>56171938
>>56171983
Both Ame and Mumei's designs in comparison to their genmates give them big protagonist vibes.

>>56169961
So, month after she debuted?

Mumei replaced Kronii as the most popular starting in February 2022.

>>56172620
>>56172882
There’s also a rehash of the complaints about Kiara being loud and obnoxious, and the perception of her being a normalfag due to not knowing some entry-level weeb/nerd stuff, though that’s subsided after her half-hour long rant about some obscure, mediocre shoujo manga.

>>56169450
>Not even Kronii with her coomer model can keep up
Kronii did everything in her power to sabotage her own success
It's amazing she's still as big as she is, really shows how braindead and devoted hololive fans can be

>>56173377
Kronii’s fans are lgbt loving troons and twitch fags tho

>>56171983
>>56173301
Amelier is plain and grounded, but she is the Detective, a very strong theme, and most importantly, you can tell based purely off her design.
Mumei on the other hand, I am not sure if a standard bystander could infer the fact that she is in fact Minerva

>>56172620
Bae pigeonholed herself into becoming EN's Ollie (without Apex, thanks good).

>>56172620
GODDAMN
She is fine, but not my cup of tea. She would be closer to the bottom of my list, but not in the category where I would have major complaints.

>>56172620
Combination of these elements with tribalistic fucktards in this board.

>>56169450
>Not even Kronii with her coomer model can keep up.
The coomerbait model is the reason that Kronii has such a problem with being a vtuber. Mooms likes her model and therefore has more reason to like hololive.

>>56169450
I honestly think its because the others are so bad and did stupid stuff to damage their popularity. Mumei barely streams, seems constantly ill/sick, extremely scatterbrained, and yet is the highest of council.

>>56170082
if you have to ask, your Mooms behind

>>56173540
I think she has a very strong design. It has enough elements for the owl/civilization to make sense, yet it's subdued enough to fit her girl next door vibes. It's not that she's plain, it's that everyone else in Council look overdesigned compared to her.
Also her 3D model looks fantastic, especially the hair.

Wasted potential.

she's just like me (retarded)

>>56174137
Kronii's design is not responsible for her self-defeatist attitude.

>>56172620
I don't hate her or anything, and I tune into her every now and again but she doesn't really do it for me. Could not care less about male collabs, infact I think that boomer zoomber thing she did with Vesper was kino.

>>56169450
brown gura, gura 2.0, autistic gura, take your pick

>>56169450
Kronii won the model lottery but was the exact worst person to win said lottery. Girl doesn't know how to be rich.
It shoulda been Mooms!

>>56174389

>>56174863
RM looks the closest to her model so in a way it's only fitting she got Mumei

>>56169450
Simple. She cute.

>>56169450
Her awkward weirdness hits close to home, in the best way possible.

Great sense of humor. Especially comes out in collabs, she is easily one of the best collab partners in all of Holo. Having Mumei is always a benefit.

Talented singer when she can relax and isn't inhibited by medical issues (not her fault)

Excellent artist. Maybe not as quick and clean as Ina, but she's also less experienced. Her sense of humor and weirdness carries over seamlessly into her art.

This job probably scares the shit out of her but she still loves it and does it anyway. That earns respect.

Everyone she works with clearly adores her. She epitomizes someone who works hard, has a good attitude, and is a stand-up friend. She deserves her success.

Mumei and Fauna are the most kind and wholesome of Council. Sana was pretty sweet, too, but boring. Kronii is a bitch and Bae is just weird.

>>56175888
Mumei + Fauna and Irys + Fauna are always the best collabs.

>>56169450
Because she speaks to the heart of her viewers.

Simply because some English teaching channel classified her as “hardest mode” for listening practice.
(Mori is the easiest)

>least popular
Hasn't Mumei been the second most subbed since debut?
Wasn't it Kronii>Mumei>Bae>Fauna>Sana until Fauna started inclining and overtook Bae, and that's just how it's always been?

>>56177331
To be fair, she was notorious for being difficult to understand even before then. In one stream last year there was even someone in chat providing English subtitles for people who actually know the language but can’t understand what she’s saying.

>>56177594
Fauna and Bae actually switched places a couple of times, but otherwise you’re right. Fauna was initially ahead of Bae before being overtaken, and then she returned the favor.

>>56177714
Mumei is easy to understand 90% of the time. The last 10% are when she's mumbling or doing her autistic rantings.

>>56170082
It's moomin time
https://files.catbox.moe/4rhmue.mp4

She's too retarded and high strung for my tastes. Just another 'quirky' autistic Twitch streamer hiding behind an anime avatar.

>>56178058
It’s always that rest 10% that’s crucial when you have a conversation in foreign languages.
>mumbling and autistic rants
And indeed this is the heart of her stream.

Naw, I like Mumei, but she barely has been doing anything for months now and there is no legit reason for it. She blew up because some tiktok girl who has the same name blew up recently and she got some incidental eyes on her because our Mumei pops up first if you search Mumei on youtube since the other girl is mainly on tiktok.

https://www.tiktok.com/@mumeixxx?lang=en

She's retarded, I'm retarded, hoomans are retarded.
Birds of a feather flock together.

>>56178718
It's not really crucial in Mumei's case. That's like saying you need to understand Miko when she's struggling to read kanji to perfectly get Japanese.

>>56178844
You know that spamming this doesn’t make it true, right?

>>56179361
Not with that attitude

>>56179361
It's the first time I've posted it and it makes the most sense since Mumei hasn't done anything of note recently and has has extremely reduced streaming horus for a good 3-4 months. People don't suddenly start subscribing to channels like that out of nowhere and her sudden sub gain coincided with this other girl suddenly getting popular.

>>56179203
>AENBIEN is not crucial
That’s not what I believe vtuber streams are supposed to be.

Basically because she doesn't put on much of a mask and wears her heart on her sleeve. She genuinely comes across as an autistic little sister and it triggers my saviourfag instincts.

>>56179790
For me it triggers down my dick down instincts

>>56179582
>It's the first time I've posted it
Bullshit, I’m pretty sure I’ve seen that exact post at least a dozen times.
>and it makes the most sense
It doesn’t because the girl on TikTok uses different characters to spell Mumei.

I'm not subscribed or watch her a lot but she seems down to earth and is just being herself.

>>56169450
I have no idea how she was in the beginning i only started watching her in her first offical japan visit and i liked it. I just wish she wasn't deadly sick and would stream more but i'll enjoy the ride until it lasts.

>>56169450
Why you try to stole Sana's valor like that. Sana is the best at being the least popular.

>>56169450
We are moomin now.

She is cringe, but she is free

>just a cute girl
>doesn't get mad and call her chat incel weirdos who exist to give her money

>>56169702
Council was basically designed from the ground up to be homocollabers, Omega chose them with that in mind. Advent is copletely different because of the management shakeup which placed a premium on getting real hololive vtubing fans or vtubers in the mix, instead of homocollabers like bae and kronii and sana.

>>56172246
Pippa-Fauna is a completely different thing, pippa attaches to her because liking a 'nice' vtuber is good for her image which is otherwise as a grifter who randomly starts crying and talking about suicide to bait for superchats while saying she doesn't deserve it.

I thought this thread was bait but it’s actual retards and newfags. This board gets worse every day

>>56180565
>Council was basically designed from the ground up to be homocollabers, Omega chose them with that in mind.
post proof of your rrat

>>56181004
It's not an rrat but an observation, it was created of women who would be more likely to collab with and support homos which is why bae and kronii have done so aggressively, Sana wished them well to own the haters (but graduated, she would have collabed with them definitely though) and mumei has also collabed with JP holostars but otherwise is too autistic to hang with them. Ina, Gura and Kiara all ignored them though.

>>56169450
>Homocollaber
>Still get most subs out of all council
as long as it is StarsJP, its ok

>>56173317
>Only member of council that speaks japanese
>Fake weeb
Sure.

>>56181704
Antis aren’t rational beings, anon. I never said they were right.

>>56181395

Male collabs are totally fine for the members that were clear from the start they weren't going to be idol or GFE type chuubas. Only betrayals are a problem.

>>56179983
Give a single good reason for her growth then, because it sure as hell ain't the content because there is no consistency. Fauna viewership grew because she kept her consistant time slot through the gura and Ina drought since they were the only else who really streamed at the time and was able to absorb a bunch of their viewers without changing her content at all.

>>56181395
you're forgetting shiori
you're forgetting that nerissa might get "accidentally" roped into a male collab by ID and even EN gen1 or 2.
>>56175800
her medical issues are not her fault, but that doesn't account for medical issues that can arise due it being her fault. case in point, the "i won't get the nutrition i need" event. that was when i started seriously questioning whether to continue being a member or not, because i have a problem with enabling self-defeat. she would be able to grow so much stronger if she didn't stand in her own way.

>>56182821
it's likely JP bros, but we will see a big drop toward the end of the year, due to THE CULLING
hopefully it's not too big a drop....though i would like to see that happen for a certain council member

>>56169450
I honestly think its more due to the others stupidly sabotaging themselves. Mumei is flawed too, constantly sick, rarely streams, ideas seem half baked, but at least she seems to like her fans.

>>56182821
Since when was streaming consistently perfectly correlated with sub growth? If that was true, Gura wouldn't be near the top of EN sub growth and NijiEN sub growth would blow out HoloEN sub growth most of the time. Kaela would gain subs far faster than Kobo who constantly goes on breaks and streams less than the rest of ID3.
It's all about the algo and how much you appeal to tourists who don't already watch you. Just look at what happened when Advent debuted, everyone in EN got a ton of subs but Mumei still got more than everyone else because she's appealing to more people.

>>56169450
Based on CCV Fauna would be the most popular in Council even though her subscriber count isn't as high as Mumei's...

>>56182821
Aside from simply catching a lucky break with the algorithm, she benefited from the hype leading up to Holofes because she has a reputation for being one of the branch’s best singers. You seem to have the idea boosts in growth happen solely due to content, either from the streamer herself, or misattributed. Reality is that the algorithm is mostly opaque and whether a channel gets pushed is often down to sheer luck.

>>56183332
copeling...

>>56183424
OH NO NO NO NONONO SAPBROS?!?!

>>56182890
>by ID
There are HomoIDs??

>>56182890
life is hard, doubly so if you are retarded, triply so if you are retarded and have money so aren't completely dependent.
its fine just be along for the ride.

>>56169450
She's quite boring and doesn't have much of a personality. But it's nice to see her channel grow.

>>56183361
she's one of the companies best singers. its ridiculous how many jp are just shitters doing what they can.

Why are Saplings and Hoomans always at eachother's throats on here?

>>56183583
it would be nice to just be along for the ride if there wasn't a possible tragedy in the works

>>56183474
>>56183424

>>56183843
>hours watched cope
sapbro... this is starting to get embarrassing

>>56169450
Cute voice, completely rejected male collabs after Bae dragged her to one, no yabs, endearingly stupid.

>>56183752
Catalog “saplings” are really just brainrotted numberfags and falseflaggers.

>>56183951
>completely rejected male collabs after Bae dragged
Qrd?

>>56183752
It's not just hoomans vs saplings, it's everyone vs saplings because they're fucking annoying
Hell I even see them posting Fauna in other threads like /pcg/ and /jidf/, not even mentioning the fact that they're extreme numberfags

>>56183843
HOLY NUCLEAR COPE BATMAN LMAOOOO

>>56183424
I didn't mean to trigger your numberfagging autism... I am subbed to both and wasn't going off hard data but rather what I randomly noticed per stream. Now of course what exactly is being streamed/played will make a difference to the numbers of a given stream.

>>56183752
Hoomans mostly stay in /who/ and saplings mostly in global. This is numberfag saplings vs generic numberfags and the rare wandering hooman.

>>56184066
Saplings not keeping a permanent thread means a lot of them take up residence in other generals.

>saplings mostly in global
If by global you mean /#/, sure
Also global is full of hoomans

>>56169450
Sana always the most unpopular

>turns into an anti sapling thread
kek every time

>>56184218
Wandering Hoomans tend to colonize most bait threads and drown out the schizo by posting about how much they love Mumei.

>>56184347
>goes to collab with the Holostars
>doesn't say a word during the collab
>scares the boys so much they never dare to collab again

Extremely based of her, honestly.

>>56184334
For >>56184218

>>56184300
blame the /uuu/ baker scizo who shits up any thread when fauna isn't streaming

>>56184498
I love Mumei.

>>56180565
Fauna did a 180 on Omegatranny and Mumei got coerced once but learned to say no

>>56184300
Truly the jews of holoEN fanbases.

>>56169450
That means picrel has a chance too! Right?

>>56169702
>>56170420
>>56169558
>>56172246
>>56174157
>>56174863
/vt/ please don't let schizos treat their illusions like facts in front of newer anons. Ask them to explain themselves using reality each and every fuckin time.

>>56183246
This. Numberfags and a lot in /vt/ forget that fans can just LIKE a idol better or more regardless of a black company mindset of more production = better. That's why Kobo is number one in ID and Keala isn't even close.

>>56184066
>not even mentioning the fact that they're extreme numberfags
This is the worst thing about them.

>>56184498
Decent fanbases ignore bait threads. Hoomans can't help but be attracted to them.

>>56169450
Barely any competition, Fauna's the only other one in Council pretty much and the rest?, Kronii hates hololive, Bae doesn't know what to do and Sana was a mistake.

>>56169450

She was massively popular right out of the gate and continues to be, nothing changed

>>56185854
>Decent fanbases ignore bait threads.
So...basically none of the fanbases on this board for any vtuber, corpo or indie. Rip.

>>56169450
She's the only one that appeals heavily to both the normie crowd and more unicorn types.
>Kronii
Is hated by a fair few for her lies and general attitude towards streaming.
>Sana
Is fucking dead.
>Fauna
Many normie types just see her as boring.
>Bae
Aussie debuff, Homocollaber, too much of a Zoomer.

>>56184781
It's different, the only time mooms did something with the homos it was an actual Homo JP collab, and she was extremely awkward and barely participated, then never again a single thing about homos.She didn't laugh nor did she antagonize her fanbase later on, you can watch the stream yourself and you will barely notice her there at all in fact.

Shiori did a Bae sort of, she right from the gate said "I'll collab with whoever I want", that's good because it'll save everyone involved future drama, but it's still a debuff for her own popularity specially when Tempus have been a disaster and can't compare at all with the professionalism of StarsJP. The fact that she said it so openly and right at her debut was a really bad call, maybe she was thinking of being some kind of FBK for EN but she doesn't have the reputation nor the work for that, so it ends up being a EN Matsuri instead.

>>56172246
A broken clock is still right twice a day, anon.

>>56175888
Kind of wish Sana pulled a Sasaki and just came back, her collabs were kino. Won't ever happen but I can dream.

>>56169450
Moom was always my favorite since debut, glad more people are recognizing her

>>56184600
Eh, it was moreso she wasn't told it was going to be a homocollab, not that she was coerced into it.

>>56169450
She attracted all the cuck enthusiasts, they are numerous.

>>56183486
anon is referring to the girls roping her in

>>56184347
Didn't watch that collab, but sweet Jesus. Who in their right mind would pick "Omega pretending to be a real woman" as a prompt with Mumei there?

>>56183951
>no yabs
lol is having a confirmed boyfriend not a yab anymore? When did Hololive get so many cuck fans

>>56169450
mumei is pure sex

>>56187831
When EN debuted

>>56185854
Correction: Decent fanbases ignore bait. There’s a small but noticeable difference.

>>56169450
hoomans are by far the creepiest EN fanbase. mumei has the least personality filters.
the two combine like an amplifier. my rrat is hooman cult-like behavior has lead to bigger gains, like an organic (albeit incredibly creepy) word of mouth campaign, and because mumei is so white bread braindead, there's nothing for passersby to bounce off of. if you numberfag for a moment and see her metrics, she actually isn't pushing commensurate viewer/income numbers to her subscriber count, which supports the supposition that her sub count includes more casual watchers who aren't as invested but also don't have any reason to leave.

>>56191836
I ain’t reading all that

>>56191914
"i've been insulted in the first sentence, why would i continue?"
i sympathize and hope you feel better soon.

>>56191983
Again, I ain’t reading all that

>>56192106
you're right, she doesn't read anything you write.

>>56191983
tl;dr

>>56192178
I don’t care
I ain’t reading all that

>>56172896
People seemed to like that stream, mainly because they didn't take it too seriously

Buy an ad

>>56192417
Bijou and Mumei should have a completely silent stream where they just “:D” at each other for hours

>>56172620
there are no actual reasons. nobody ever produces a response to this question which is why it keeps getting asked. her crime on vt is literally just that she collabed with men. she didn't mock anybody about it or get defensive, she wasn't flirty with any of them or make it creepy.
she doesn't have much of a draw and her fanbase isn't cult-like, like say mumei, so she doesn't have the vocal defenders to drown the unicorns out who are always the loudest people on the board.

She's an actual sperg and not faking it, but unlike Pippa it doesn't involve screeching and going on about the same topic for 20 minutes.

>>56172620
Actually on that note I have no fucking idea
It could be those reasons but most of the hate I've seen against her comes from the /#/ thread (primarily from a trifecta of Saplings, Hoomans and IRyStocrats) who mainly hate her because.... she has low numbers

Mumei would be cringe if she were a guy, but because she’s a grill, she’s cute

>>56172620
>What are the reasons she's hated so much?
She collabs with males and is a dumb zoomer.

>>56187136
So why hasn't she said a single thing about the homos yet? No retweets or likes to anything homos on twitter too.

>>56193071
Bae is pretty well liked in /who/ though. Cannot say the same for /uuu/ or /HIRyS/

>>56193415
Yeah well the /who/mans specifically kicked out all the cunts who hate Bae so they have to anti her in their safespace in /#/

>>56173453
You must mean vshojo

>>56192917
Holy based

>>56191836
>Hoomans aren't majority coomers, mommyfags, or goslings
>creepiest EN fanbase
Okay.

>>56183752
I don't know how you haven't noticed that saplings are the most obnoxious fanbase on this board. They're not the most hateful, not the most schizo, not the worst, but they're up there for all three. Just the most obnoxious.

>>56169558
This is the objective truth
>”noooo le heckin parasocial is NOT heckin wholesome nooooo”
Fuck off twittards, vtubing is for autistic anime otaku to feel like they have anime characters as friends and if you don’t like it hey here’s a suggestion COMMIT SUICIDE

>>56195555
yes, thank you for producing an example of hooman level intelligence putting words in their mouth on cue.

>>56171209
this but unironically

>>56184521
I unironically just think she was containing a spergout and was afraid if she said something, she'd say something wrong and wierd everyone else.

>>56183752
saplings are kinda creepy but they're mostly compartmentalized and generally oblivious. they don't really make it about other people. you have to go into their spaces to see them being weirdos and that's how it should be.
hoomans are a cult that wish they had cloak of invisibility that saplings have; hoomans are mad saplings get to be weird and left alone and they can't handle this. cults don't tolerate dissent or "the other" and thus they bring war.
you'll notice it's never saplings throwing the first stone, but the saplings take criticism from hoomans as criticism of their oshi like any person who hasn't matured emotionally, and while they don't pick the fights, they do continue them.
repeat on loop.

>>56169450
Fauna and Moom came into their own around the time of Gura's breaks. Moom is a better singer and her quirks are cute.

>>56183752
I never see this, there's a lot of Fauna love in /who/ hoomans seem to hate kronies more than anyone deadbeats maybe 2nd?

>>56184347
i will never forgive those brown sluts for tricking mumei into this collab

>>56196373
Can confirm. The only one /who/ will get annoyed at is kronii, but it's mostly because /who/'s dedicated threadshitter is a kronie and spams his oshi

Replicated Gura's success as the "quirky white girl: of the group.

>>56196076
This isn’t /wg/, anon.
>>56196373
It’s literally just one schizo who seethes at the mere mention of Kronii or her fans. Last time I saw anyone shitting on Mori there was the Terraria collab.

>>56169450
her competitors just killed themselves

>>56196885
Only saw kronii schizo during the connect watchalong and luckily he shut the fuck up for the most part

>>56197189
Being proven wrong to that degree will do it. He usually limits himself to accusing other anons of being Kronies for doing something he doesn’t like.

>>56178308
Is Kanauru really the only option?

>>56169450
Drama free most idol like EN.
Also probably the best karaoke in the market.

>>56197826
he runs braindead apologism for his cover overlords like nobody else AND produces content on the cheap (usually free)
he is absolutely a workhorse go-to

>>56198620
anon you're on 4chan, people are aggressive and well-informed. this isn't reddit.

>>56192234
>aggressive and well-informed
you mean schizophrenic?

>>56199382 (me)

i at'd the wrong anon. fuck fuck fuck fuck

I love Mooms because she is genuine and my little sister.

>>56172246

>>56169450
she moom, moom cute.

>>56169450
>being consistent
>not causing as much drama
chubing is a marathon not a sprint

>>56169450
Cutest girl in the world unironically, a cuter girl doesn’t exist

>>56200336
Here comes a new challenger!

>>56192555
> wanna rock
> eat my berry

>>56172246
>plenty wrong
>provides no reasons

>>56200575
Everything about Fuwamoco is manufactured, faker than fauna

>>56169450
>the most subscribed member of council
Further proof that both male collabs were either never a deal breaker and unicorns were never a significant factor in a vtuber's success

>>56200575
Mumei is the embodiment of cuteness itself. Mococo, while very cute, can’t compete.

>>56200703
aww you started off with a point and then compared a 1 to a 9
better luck next time, champ

>>56200771
Hoomans repaired her reputation /here/ enough that unicorns forgave her

>>56169450
Have you heard her sing, anon?

>>56200771
It's because Mumei is not a whore. You can tell she was dragged along

>>56201120
Anon you've been using this cope for too long. It's time to move on

It appears her superiority has lead to some controversy.

>>56200771
>He doesn't know

>>56201274
anon i'm not even a hooman. it's very easy to tell because you have great examples of a whore (kronii) to compare her to

>>56200771
She was clearly nervous during that collab and didn't even know who was going to be involved until it was already arranged. (Management probably set it up that way for this reason specifically.) There never WAS anything to 'repair' of 'forgive'. In case you've never had a job before, you sometimes have to work with people you fucking hate and don't get to just say 'no'.

>>56191836
>hoomans are by far the creepiest EN fanbase

I mean, would you say no to this face?

>>56201501
okay i laughed

>>56200951
As anyone with any memory can attest, there never was anything to repair. Hoomans weren't enthusiastic about it but it wasn't a big deal, and it was only used for drama after Tempus was announced.

>>56201501
Still waiting on that Nightmare daki.

>>56169450
>doesn‘t hate her fans
>but also doesn‘t pander to pathetic parasocialfags
She‘s just appealling to normal, well-adjusted people.

>>56200771
It's because Mumei didn't spit on her fanbase like Kronii did. Simple as.

>>56201637
It was used for drama when schedules were going up at the beginning of the week, but that was just the usual schizos that hate her being opportunistic and died down after she immediately proceeded to piggyback off Bae’s Haachama collab and because they decided to pair it with complaining about Ark, which fell apart when it came out that she was helping Gura fulfill her promise to Coco.

>>56201842
For all the sect branding, hoomans are pretty grounded parasocial-wise. If anything, the chuuba is the parasocial one here.

Mumei love
Councilrys love
Sana love

>>56169450
>doesn't feel pure and openly express disgust for her fanbase like kronii
>gives a fuck to Hololive unlike Fauna and put the effort to become better
>Bae is borderline unwatchable with how shit she is
You have basically have no choice for Council
You watch Mumei or you don't bother at best or you are an unironic cuck at worst if you watch kronii.
EN3 will reach 1M subs months before Fauna and Bae will

>>56180641
>Have literally never watched a Pippa stream.
You probably think she's alt-right too you colossal faggot.

I can't trust chuubas who I actively know are getting their back blown out

>>56176332
> IRyS+Fauna
Theyve only done 2 one-on-one streams but i agree they mesh very well
> Mumei+Fauna
Excellent pairing. Fauna feeds into Mumeis weirdness and isnt afraid to go along with it. They constantly mention one another to the point i wonder WHY KronMei is the more popular ship when these two have such good chemistry. Ive seen the KronMei collabs. Theyre not bad but not really much to write home about. Is it just the tall, cool brooding one+Short cute one that needs protecting lesbo pairing that people go crazy for? Is it really just that?

>>56203094
>i wonder WHY KronMei is the more popular ship
it had the most "ship moments" in their debut months which gave it an indestructible foundation and is continually fueled by fan artists and fic authors. no matter how small, every crumb of kromei will give them renewed passion and breathe life into the ship.

>>56203094
Kronmei is the brain blanking type of collab, it's glorious.

>>56169813
I dont like her zatsus or gaming streams, but she's one of my favorite karaoke to watch in all of hololive

She moomin'

>>56169450
cute!

>>56195716
This post is cute.

>>56172246
/vt/ and bvtm are the only ones who still care about "not your friend"

>>56169450
She had the most consistent growth. Kronii had the most for the first month or two but fell off a cliff. Fauna and Baelz actually have more views than both, because they stream more.

>>56169450
Sperg power

incredible, she did a reverse mori

>>56206805
Fauna also has the benefit of her ASMR VODs, while most of Mumei’s karaoke is unarchived.

>>56208134
Those early unannounced, unarchived, guerrilla karaoke streams from Mumei is what actually caused her to rise to second behind Kronii. She was struggling a bit in numbers before then.

>>56169450
Because this :D

>>56184564
No need to blame anyone, that's simply how saplings run their general. There is no "baker schizo"

>>56170082
It's similar to magging

>>56209148
I’m talking about views here, not sub growth. ASMR gets a lot of repeat views, while unarchived streams, by definition, can’t. Also, she was solidly second place already, they just allowed her to start closing the gap.

I'm not a huge Mumei fan, but god damn I love seeing her kick Kronii off her undeserved perch. She was like 130,000 subs behind, it shouldn't have been possible. Guess listening to Mori wasn't the best career advice, eh?

>>56169450
>>started as the least popular
cgdct saves